Ep. 907 - Florida Man Takes On The Woke Enemy
Episode Stats
Words per Minute
183.83012
Summary
Florida Governor Ron DeSantis has a new piece of legislation for the upcoming legislative session called the Stop Wrongs Against Our Kids And Employees Act, or the Stop Woke Act. It s an excellent acronym and an even more excellent piece of law.
Transcript
00:00:00.000
With 20 years reporting on the markets, I know that some industries are built to last,
00:00:03.980
but others are built to lead. John Oelichman here. If you want exposure to what's really
00:00:08.280
shaping our world, think beyond trends. Think defense, healthcare, telecom, real estate,
00:00:13.920
gold, crypto. They're not just headlines, they're foundations. And with GlobalX,
00:00:18.400
one of Canada's largest ETF providers, you can invest in them intelligently. With a range of
00:00:23.660
ETFs designed for long-term growth and steady income opportunities. GlobalX,
00:00:28.120
where innovation meets investing. Brought to you by GlobalX Investments Canada, Inc.
00:00:32.440
For key risk information, please refer to the ETF's prospectus, available at globalx.ca.
00:00:37.880
American politicians have come up with some pretty great acronyms over the years.
00:00:42.160
There is, of course, the Uniting and Strengthening America by Providing Appropriate Tools Required
00:00:47.140
to Intercept and Obstruct Terrorism Act of 2001, also known as the Patriot Act, USA Patriot Act.
00:00:52.940
There is the Uniting and Strengthening America by Fulfilling Rights and Ensuring Effective
00:00:57.360
Discipline Over Monitoring Act of 2015, or the USA Freedom Act. Boy, that's a good acronym.
00:01:04.100
But I think that Florida Governor Ron DeSantis may have just come up with the best one yet.
00:01:09.680
A new piece of legislation for the upcoming legislative session
00:01:13.240
called Stop Wrongs Against Our Kids and Employees Act, the Stop Woke Act.
00:01:22.200
The Stop Woke Act, an excellent acronym and an even more excellent piece of legislation.
00:01:28.760
I'm Michael Knowles. This is The Michael Knowles Show.
00:01:38.220
My favorite comment yesterday from Jesse Riley, who says,
00:01:41.120
I don't think we're giving Jesse enough credit for giving black people the roles typically played
00:01:46.340
by white men. You make such a great point, Jesse. That's true. We need more diversity in Hollywood.
00:01:52.680
The Oscars are too white. And that's all... All Jesse was doing was diversifying
00:01:58.380
fictional roles, fictional characters. That's what he was doing. And that's great stuff.
00:02:02.860
When you want to protect yourself, whether you're on the street at night or really in your digital life,
00:02:07.280
is probably much more important, I'd recommend you check out LifeLock.
00:02:11.440
This Christmas season of giving is also a season of taking for cyber criminals looking to cash in.
00:02:18.020
Some tips to help you stay safe while holiday shopping include only visiting secure sites
00:02:23.460
and apps from retailers you trust, using a VPN instead of public Wi-Fi, creating strong passwords
00:02:29.200
and checking your bank and credit accounts for fraud. Every day, we put our information at risk
00:02:33.820
on the internet. In an instant, a cyber criminal could steal what's yours.
00:02:37.280
Sometimes even harm your finances, your credit, or your good reputation.
00:02:41.440
Good thing there's LifeLock. LifeLock helps detect a wide range of identity threats,
00:02:46.020
such as your social security number for sale on the dark web.
00:02:49.160
If they detect your information has potentially been compromised, they will send you an alert.
00:02:53.500
You have access to a dedicated restoration specialist if you become a victim.
00:02:58.800
No one can prevent all identity theft or monitor all transactions at all businesses,
00:03:02.500
but you can help protect what's yours with LifeLock by Norton.
00:03:06.860
Join now. Save up to 25% off your first year by going to LifeLock.com slash Knowles,
00:03:12.840
K-N-W-L-E-S. That is LifeLock.com slash Knowles for 25% off.
00:03:17.320
I totally love the Stop Woke Act. I don't only love it because of how great the acronym is,
00:03:23.620
that the acronym is magnificent. I love it because of what the law does. Governor DeSantis,
00:03:29.760
And this will do a number of things that are very important. One, it will put into statute
00:03:35.080
the Department of Education's prohibition on CRT in K-12 schools. No taxpayer dollars
00:03:43.940
should be used to teach our kids to hate our country or to hate each other.
00:03:55.960
And that's important and that's all well and good, but I think what we've seen,
00:03:59.760
recently, is you can legislate things like Parents' Bill of Rights. You can have certain
00:04:05.220
things and sometimes the school districts don't always follow it. And so we are going to be
00:04:10.100
including in this legislation, giving parents a private right of action to be able to enforce
00:04:17.240
the prohibition on CRT and they get to recover attorney's fees when they prevail, which is very
00:04:26.620
This is really good stuff. This is a great use by conservatives of the government to save our
00:04:36.660
culture. He says it right there. He says the legislation has to have teeth. It's one thing
00:04:41.520
to pass it, but how are you going to enforce it? Well, one way you're going to enforce it
00:04:44.840
is allowing a private right of action for these parents to go after the schools. This is just
00:04:50.500
sort of thing that you saw in the Texas pro-life law where you are empowering citizens to sue
00:04:55.940
the abortionists. So there's a mechanism in there to actually hold these people accountable. We know
00:05:00.600
that the teachers, because of the teacher unions, are unaccountable. There are plenty of good teachers
00:05:07.080
out there and there are a lot of really bad teachers out there. And you can't really discriminate
00:05:11.940
between the two because the teacher unions are so strong they're going to do whatever they want.
00:05:15.760
We know that administrations are not really held to account all that often in the school
00:05:20.700
districts. And so here's one way we can do it. The parents can actually take legal action here
00:05:24.980
for the Stop Woke Act. I suspect the squishy people, I suspect maybe some of the libertarians,
00:05:33.580
they're not going to like this very much because this is imposing limits on academic freedom and the
00:05:40.900
freedom of teachers and it's limiting things in the classroom. Yeah, right. That's what,
00:05:45.180
that's what you have to do. That's what you have to do. That's the only way that you can have a
00:05:50.420
coherent culture. Academic, I've said it before, I wrote a book about this called Speechless Controlling
00:05:55.380
Words, Controlling Minds, available now. Great book to put in a Christmas stocking. The libs used the
00:06:01.100
nonsensical concept of academic freedom, the hoax in William F. Buckley Jr.'s words of academic freedom
00:06:07.300
to cram in all of their insane ideas into the curriculum. And when they put in all of their crazy ideas,
00:06:13.760
that necessarily crowded out all of the other ideas, the good, conservative, normal, true ideas,
00:06:19.380
and contradicted them in many cases. So what we need to do, if we want to be able to take that back,
00:06:24.360
if we want to be able to take back education, which means if we want to be able to take back
00:06:27.480
the next generations of Americans, we have got to push out all the crazy left-wing ideas and
00:06:32.960
the Stop Woke Act is a great way to do it. If you don't like the Stop Woke Act, boy, howdy, you are not
00:06:37.760
going to like the other law that is being proposed in Florida, which is a bill to require sports teams
00:06:45.180
to sing the national anthem before sporting events. Ooh, ooh, speaking of some of the good uses of
00:06:54.220
big government, this is a great one. New bill filed by State Representative Tommy Gregory is a Sarasota
00:07:03.460
area Republican lawmaker. This would require professional, not all sports teams, not necessarily
00:07:09.600
high school or college, but professional sports teams to play the national anthem before home games
00:07:14.400
in order to receive government funding. This legislation follows a similar bill in Texas
00:07:19.680
that came up after that jerk who runs the Dallas Mavericks stopped playing the national anthem
00:07:26.120
before their games. Really good stuff. So it's not as knuckle-dragging and authoritarian and right-wing
00:07:34.020
as people are going to say. It's not saying that you're going to go to jail if you don't play the
00:07:38.400
national anthem. It's saying if you want to receive government money, then you need to stand up for the
00:07:42.080
flag and you need to support our Star-Spangled Banner and our national anthem. If you're going to be a
00:07:46.880
professional sports team, you're already getting a ton of tax perks anyway. You are affiliated with the
00:07:52.580
state or sports just like all games throughout all history in governments have been a patriotic
00:08:01.220
thing. And so now they've been turned against patriotism because the left has abused concepts
00:08:08.460
such as free speech and free expression and taken them to insane extremes to undermine the state itself.
00:08:16.400
So we're going to go in there and take that back. This is great stuff. One of the arguments
00:08:22.360
from the squishes and maybe some libertarians is that this is tyrannical. If a sports team doesn't
00:08:28.280
want to stand up and play the national anthem, then they shouldn't be forced to. The law merely has to
00:08:35.540
enable people to do whatever they want. The law needs to respect the individual choices. That's
00:08:40.860
not exactly true. Okay, first of all, law by its very nature applies to everybody, not just to
00:08:50.080
the individual whims of individual people. So no, obviously the law is an imposition to some degree.
00:08:57.720
And while we in recent years come to think of the law as merely just reflecting our own will,
00:09:05.000
right? We, we the people have a will and then we push that will through legislation and then the law
00:09:12.900
reflects that. It goes the other way as well. And I think we need to recognize this.
00:09:17.060
The law does not just react to what we want. The law also instructs and informs what we want.
00:09:26.960
Statesmen throughout all of history, everywhere in the world have, have known this.
00:09:31.680
That, uh, for instance, some people might want to do drugs, but the law has a prohibition against
00:09:37.480
drugs and it discourages the use of drugs. And then it creates perhaps taboos around the use of drugs.
00:09:42.320
And then people do fewer drugs less often. These rules have weakened in recent years because people
00:09:47.760
have changed the law and the law doesn't merely reflect cultural changes, but the law pushes cultural
00:09:52.120
changes as well. Before the gay marriage decision from the Supreme Court, before Obergefell,
00:09:59.480
the culture had a far, uh, less accepting view of the idea that marriage means something totally
00:10:07.140
different than it had always meant. Now, because of that change in the law, people have a very
00:10:12.020
different view. I'm not even, I don't for the moment even care to talk about gay marriage or drugs
00:10:18.300
or whatever. I'm just pointing out the fact that the law can affect the way people think about things.
00:10:24.060
And so I think we ought to use the law and the government for good stuff. If they're going to,
00:10:28.320
if the libs are going to use the law and the government to attack our country and take away patriotism,
00:10:32.140
I think we should use it to instill patriotism. If the libs are going to use the coercive
00:10:37.320
education system to teach people radical, crazy gender theory and terrible racial ideologies,
00:10:43.900
we should use it for the opposite because that's a good thing. Well, what's the difference between
00:10:48.500
the right and the left? If we're both willing to use the law and we're both willing to use the
00:10:51.680
education system, the difference is the substance. What are we teaching? What laws are we imposing?
00:10:57.280
What are we standing for the, for the national anthem or are we disrespecting the national anthem?
00:11:01.160
Those are different things. Even if the law is impelling you to do something in both cases.
00:11:08.240
Now, a great use of big government, right? I know this is going to be all about how great big
00:11:14.840
government can be. Not just because it's what conservatives oppose is not big government.
00:11:20.140
What we oppose is unlimited, arbitrary, capricious government, right? There's no such thing as small
00:11:26.320
government in a country of 330 million people where we've got imperial holdings all the way from Guam to
00:11:31.120
Puerto Rico. Okay. There's no, you're not going to have some tiny little, uh, Republican form of
00:11:37.000
government that, uh, where everybody knows each other and we all go to vote in the forum or something
00:11:40.740
like that. That's not going to happen. So what we want is a limited government that is not tyrannical
00:11:45.280
and arbitrary and just ruled by the whims of Dr. Fauci. We want it to be good government.
00:11:50.280
And so one, probably the most basic use of big government is to stop crime. Okay. During crime
00:11:59.060
waves, it's good to have big government. During the 1970s and 80s, New York was a very bad place and
00:12:06.280
there was a lot of crime. Then Giuliani came in and used big government and lots of cops
00:12:11.640
to arrest all the criminals and stop them from committing their crimes. And guess what? New York
00:12:16.460
became a much better place, much more flourishing, uh, much more conducive to human flourishing and
00:12:22.360
much more conservative, allowed people to sleep easy at night. Kind of like my pillow. You know
00:12:29.000
how much I love my pillow. I love my pillow in part because of the great politics of my pillow and
00:12:34.660
because they support good conservative patriotic causes. But I've mentioned before, I'd probably buy
00:12:38.900
from my pillow if it was run by the Taliban. They just make a great product. Okay. And my pillow
00:12:43.700
wants to give back to our listeners. You can get great discounts on all my pillow products. If you
00:12:48.000
go to mypillow.com right now, click on the radio listeners specials, get deep discounts on my pillow,
00:12:53.240
mattress toppers, towels, and so much more. For example, my pillow is offering a buy one,
00:12:57.800
get one offer on Giza sheets. These are top quality sheets that you will love. All my pillow products
00:13:04.440
come with a 60 day money back guarantee and a 10 year warranty. There's no risk whatsoever.
00:13:07.880
Head on over right now. I love my pillow. And I love, in particular, I love the pillow. You know,
00:13:13.680
I love all their products, but a pillow, it's the greatest pillow I've ever used. Go to mypillow.com,
00:13:17.660
click on the radio listeners specials for the buy one, get one free offer on the Giza sheets and use
00:13:22.520
promo code dailywire at checkout or call 800-651-1148. You'll also get discounts on all those
00:13:29.240
mypillow products, the pillow, the slippers, the mattress topper, and mypillow towel sets. That's
00:13:33.300
mypillow.com. Enter code dailywire or 1-800-651-1148. Tell them dailywire sent you. 1-800-651-1148.
00:13:41.540
The deals won't last forever, so call now. So there is a major crime wave going on right now
00:13:46.840
all over the United States. I guess you could say it's been going on for over a year now because
00:13:50.160
left-wing activists and peaceful protesters and demonstrators decided to burn the country down
00:13:55.300
from sea to the shiny sea. But you're seeing this now without even the facade or pretense of
00:14:00.900
activism. You're just seeing gangs of criminals go into Walgreens and CVS and just steal tons and
00:14:06.240
tons of stuff, break into jewelry stores. It's being filmed. Sometimes it's happening in broad
00:14:10.220
daylight and the cops aren't doing anything about it. I don't blame them. The politicians won't let
00:14:15.020
the cops do anything about it. And if the cops do anything and it contradicts some racial narrative
00:14:20.900
or it falls into a certain narrative category on the left, then the cops could have their lives
00:14:26.220
completely ruined. As these left-wing lawmakers are calling for the police departments to be
00:14:31.640
defunded and for prisons to be abolished. So I don't really blame the cops here, but what are we
00:14:36.580
going to do about it? Well, Nancy Pelosi was just asked about this and she basically just shrugged her
00:14:43.420
shoulders. What do you think about some of this crime, specifically in San Francisco,
00:14:48.400
smash and grabs? And also generally, is there some sort of a federal response? You know,
00:14:52.680
we've passed crime bills here before. Is there something looking at some of these problems?
00:14:56.040
Well, it is. It's absolutely outrageous. Obviously, it cannot continue. But the fact is that there is
00:15:04.020
an attitude of lawlessness in our country that springs from, I don't know where. Maybe you do.
00:15:13.200
And we cannot have that lawlessness become the norm. There's an attitude of lawlessness,
00:15:19.960
but who knows where it comes from, says Nancy Pelosi, one of the leaders of the Democratic Party
00:15:26.400
that has been saying for years now that we need to abolish the police, that we need to defund the
00:15:32.400
police. And in their defense, sort of in their defense, the logic of their argument is that America
00:15:40.200
is an evil place. The reason that they're saying we need to defund the police and empty out all the
00:15:45.780
prisons is not even because they think that there's no such thing as justice or justice is
00:15:52.660
not a worthwhile goal or virtue. They're saying that America is unjust, intrinsically unjust. It'll
00:15:58.220
always be unjust because it's white supremacist and racist and whatever nonsense they spout.
00:16:04.780
So because of that, the American system of law is necessarily evil and unjust. And therefore,
00:16:12.040
we've got to get rid of it. I don't think I'm being hyperbolic when I say that the cause of the
00:16:18.340
lawlessness in America is entirely the fault of the left. They are openly calling for lawlessness.
00:16:27.420
You even see it in the way they approach the Constitution, right? Their interpretive principle
00:16:32.220
for the Constitution is that America's evil and terrible and unjust and all our laws are terrible and
00:16:37.300
it's based on white supremacists and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And therefore, we need to just
00:16:41.260
rewrite the Constitution from the bench. And yeah, there's no right to an abortion in the
00:16:45.580
Constitution, but there should be. So we're just going to put it in there. What are you going to
00:16:49.180
do about it? That is lawlessness. And so it is no surprise when criminals go out on the streets.
00:16:56.760
And then the cherry on top of that Sunday is that when all of these thugs went out on the streets and
00:17:01.520
started burning and stealing and looting and killing last year, these people, these elected Democrats
00:17:08.020
actively encouraged that. They donated to the bail funds for these people. Kamala Harris donated to
00:17:15.880
the bail funds for these people or posted the link and encouraged other people to donate. Staffers for
00:17:20.920
Joe Biden did the same thing. So that's where the lawlessness comes from. Now, speaking of crime,
00:17:28.560
the left does not want to talk about the smash and grabs. AOC, you'll remember,
00:17:34.060
wouldn't even go so far as Pelosi to acknowledge it. AOC said, oh, it's not happening. Don't believe
00:17:41.320
your lying eyes. Don't believe the retail associations. Don't believe Walgreens. So
00:17:46.600
Pelosi will at least acknowledge it. But the Democrats want to talk about a far worse crime
00:17:51.580
than, you know, the zillions of dollars being stolen and the arson and the looting and the killing and
00:17:57.340
all that. The libs want to talk about January 6th. Here is James Carville, very influential and
00:18:07.020
prominent Democrat strategist describing the massive criminal act of January 6th.
00:18:13.600
It was a massive criminal act. The people who penetrated that capital were criminals. The people
00:18:20.440
that helped him penetrate the capital are criminals. You're a lawyer. You know this. If I drive the getaway
00:18:25.400
car or I case the place out, I'm just as guilty as the trigger man. All right. That's the way the law
00:18:31.620
operates. And they're going to find that members of Congress were aiding and abetting this, that Trump
00:18:36.420
was behind it. Major people in the administration were behind it. And we have to remember, this is a
00:18:42.460
massive criminal attack. It just wasn't an assault on the temple of democracy or whatever we say.
00:18:48.360
These were criminals in that building. And these were people on Fox who were aiding and abetting
00:18:54.860
criminality. That's not a good thing. Not in a nation of laws. And I hope that they stay very,
00:19:02.140
very aggressive and expose these criminals and the people that supported them to the very extent
00:19:08.060
that they possibly can. Man, these Democrats, they get real tough on crime when you're talking about
00:19:14.260
the horn guy dancing around the Capitol rotunda. They get really tough on crime when some Midwestern dad
00:19:21.040
cracks a Coors Light and puts his thumb up in front of a picture in the Capitol. They get really,
00:19:27.900
they are ready to send you to Gitmo. They're probably going to bring back the death penalty
00:19:33.080
in a lot of their states when you're talking about that Florida guy who was smiling with Nancy Pelosi's
00:19:37.660
lectern as he'd walked out of the Capitol with it. Not so tough when it comes to actual crime.
00:19:44.860
Not so tough when it comes to actual looting and robbing and killing. Because this is friend-enemy
00:19:52.260
politics, right? This is the BLM people are my friends. The Antifa people are my friends. So I'm
00:19:57.600
just not going to prosecute them. And the horn guy is my enemy. And so I am going to pretend that this guy
00:20:04.060
is the gravest threat to the United States ever that we've ever faced. And there's no objective
00:20:10.720
standard here. It's just, I like my friends. I hate my enemies. That's what they're talking about.
00:20:15.500
And Carville goes pretty far. He doesn't just say that the, the eccentric people at the Capitol
00:20:19.440
who didn't, who didn't kill people, who didn't kill cops, who didn't do any of the things that the
00:20:24.080
libs say that they did. He's saying it wasn't just them who were the terrible criminals. It's Trump.
00:20:28.340
Trump was behind it. We got him now. There's good. Stay tuned. Buckle up, buckaroo. There is really
00:20:34.360
serious stuff coming out of the January 6th commission. How stupid do they think we are?
00:20:43.160
Very stupid, I guess. Stupid they think we are. How many times are they going to pull this?
00:20:50.000
Oh, just you wait. We've got a Russia investigation. Trump is behind a massive crime.
00:20:56.600
Oh, just you wait. We're going to get him. We're going to get him. What happened with that? They
00:21:02.060
didn't get him. Oh, but we forget Russia for a second. Now, Ukraine, you know, Russia's enemy.
00:21:08.220
We got, well, he was actually, yeah, maybe he wasn't colluding with the Russians, but he's
00:21:11.440
colluding with the Ukrainians. Yeah. Oh, we got him. Massive crime. We're going to, we're going to
00:21:16.060
get him. What's going to, and what happened with that? Oh, they didn't get him on that. Oh,
00:21:21.260
oh, it's Mueller time, baby. Nope. No, that, that didn't. Well, we're going to,
00:21:25.560
the Southern district is going to get him. Is that okay? Is that, and the investigation and we're
00:21:30.980
going to, and now, so now it's January 6th. And, and then Carville goes out. It's the most
00:21:35.700
implausible of all. He goes, well, now you had, you had Fox News, Fox News, and Trump. It's not my,
00:21:41.800
it's not a great James Carville impression. And we were, and they were doing it. We're wrongdoing.
00:21:45.620
They are doing it. What wrongdoing? The texts that came out, which by the way, were, were doctored.
00:21:50.900
We, we recently learned the texts that came out from Fox News hosts and conservatives texting the
00:21:58.360
White House and Don Jr. Even texting the White House, texting Mark Meadows, the White House chief
00:22:02.420
of staff and saying, Hey, this is bad. Stop this. Have Trump go out there and speak. They, if anything,
00:22:08.440
they show that the prominent conservatives were discouraging any sort of violence at the Capitol.
00:22:15.760
Right. They weren't saying, yeah, go get them. They were saying, no, get the president out there to
00:22:19.820
go tell people to go home. And then what, what happened? That's exactly what happened. Trump went out
00:22:25.280
and said, Hey, stop it. Go home. Totally exonerates everybody.
00:22:32.280
But they're going to gin it up and gin it up and gin, and then nothing's going to come of it. And
00:22:36.480
you know what? They're going to, they're just going to do it again. They're going to pick another topic
00:22:40.920
and do it again, another non-traversy and do it again. And it's going to be mostly Democrats leading
00:22:46.560
the charge with a handful of court jester conservatives there as well. Like Liz Cheney,
00:22:52.280
speaking of January 6th and the January 6th commission, turns out that at least one of just
00:22:57.240
two nominally Republican members on the January 6th commission is getting a ton of money from lib
00:23:03.600
donors. Liz Cheney raked in about 55 grand from the same donors who fund the Lincoln project. The
00:23:11.660
Lincoln project is this scandal ridden left-wing operation by a bunch of disgruntled former Republican
00:23:18.420
operatives who couldn't get jobs anymore. So they started to work for Democrats. And then one of
00:23:22.300
them got in trouble because it turned out he was grooming young boys for sex. And so, so the Lincoln
00:23:28.160
project, not a very reputable, honorable organization. And the same donors to the Lincoln project are
00:23:33.940
funding Liz Cheney. A lot of money. A billionaire, John Pritzker, who's given a hundred grand to the
00:23:41.080
Lincoln project, gave Cheney over 21 grand. Another Silicon Valley investor, Ron Conway, top donor to the
00:23:47.040
Lincoln project gave Liz Cheney and her campaign committees the same amount of money. Just for the
00:23:52.780
people who say Liz Cheney's actually, her voting record's fairly conservative. Yeah, whatever.
00:23:56.620
When push comes to shove at the crucial moments, she sides with the other guys. This is friend,
00:24:03.780
friend, enemy politics. Gets right back to it. She's at the, where it counts. She sides with the other
00:24:10.080
guys. That's a lot of money. We're talking about, man, $21,600. That's especially these days with gas
00:24:15.980
prices so high. Well, if you want to save a little money at the pump, I'd recommend you check out
00:24:19.240
GetUpside. I am thrilled to introduce an incredible app that everyone who buys gas
00:24:24.580
needs to know about. That's GetUpside. Do you buy gas or you like every other American? Well,
00:24:29.120
then you need GetUpside. My listeners are making up to 25 cents for every gallon of gas every time
00:24:33.660
they fill up. Actually, that's not true. That's not quite true because on your first tank, you can save
00:24:38.680
up to 50 cents per gallon of gas. Just download the free GetUpside app in the App Store or Google Play
00:24:44.660
right now. Use promo code Knowles. Get a bonus 25 cents per gallon on your first fill up. That is up
00:24:50.280
to 50 cents cash back per gallon. Do not pay full price at the pump anymore. Get cash back using GetUpside.
00:24:58.720
Just download the app for free. Use promo code Knowles to get up to 50 cents per gallon cash back
00:25:03.600
on your first tank. Some people who drive a lot are making as much as $200 to $300 a month in cash back.
00:25:11.400
There's no cash. The cash back gets added right to your account. You can cash out anytime to your
00:25:17.240
bank account, PayPal, or an e-gift card for Amazon and other brands. Download the free GetUpside app.
00:25:22.300
Use promo code Knowles to get up to 50 cents per gallon cash back on your first tank. That is code
00:25:26.740
K-N-O-W-L-E-S. You know, The Daily Wire was the first company in the country to sue the Biden
00:25:32.420
administration for their unconstitutional mandate. We're getting closer to a million signatures on our
00:25:37.520
do not comply petition every single day. Right now, big hospital chains are dropping vaccine
00:25:43.340
mandates for healthcare workers because of this kind of pushback. So we're almost at 900,000
00:25:47.580
signatures so far. We need your help to cross the finish line. Right now, please sign the petition
00:25:51.860
at dailywire.com slash do not comply. Then share our petition with all of your family and friends.
00:25:58.100
Also excited to announce a new series exclusively on Daily Wire. If you've ever wanted to be a fly on the
00:26:03.420
wall for some Ben Shapiro behind the scenes, then you're in luck. In the premiere episode,
00:26:08.040
Jordan Peterson joins Ben for coffee while he's visiting Nashville, and they talk as if the cameras
00:26:13.020
are not there. Take a listen. All righty, so I'm here in Nashville with Jordan Peterson. Jordan's
00:26:18.480
spending a lot of time in Nashville. In fact, I think Jordan may know Nashville better than I do.
00:26:21.840
Last night, you dragged me to Robert's Western world, and you were like the guy of the house.
00:26:28.560
Like, they all knew you. No, no. Luke McCrary was the guy of the house, the guitarist.
00:26:32.100
Playing the guitar at the sea. He's a deadly man, yeah. Kelly's Heroes, they're a deadly band.
00:26:36.300
I will say, I feel like I was a little more dressed for it. Like, I was wearing a t-shirt and a
00:26:40.060
leather jacket, and you were wearing this. Yeah, yeah. I didn't have my cowboy boots. I haven't
00:26:44.800
bought them yet. I'll get a cowboy hat. Soon enough. We're going to get you Nashville'd up,
00:26:48.720
exactly. Damn right. It was really fun being there with you. Oh, yeah. No, that was awesome.
00:26:52.560
You're a classically trained violinist. I am. I am. And you like the music. Oh, yeah. I love that stuff. I mean,
00:26:58.140
if you're a good musician, you're a good musician. Those guys know how to play. Yeah, no kidding. That's right.
00:27:00.880
You really know how to play. Sunday special is a lot more formal. I mean, I'm coming in with
00:27:04.200
questions, and it's much less of kind of a discussion between the two of us, and it's
00:27:08.000
much more of kind of just me probing and Jordan's ideas. But this is much more like how we talk
00:27:13.880
normally. I mean, Jordan, you called me. We talked on the phone like a month ago, and this
00:27:17.540
was basically the same conversation, right? This is how we talk when... Different topics, but...
00:27:20.900
Yeah, different topics, but I mean, like, this is how we talk when the cameras aren't on us.
00:27:24.640
People really love being in on those conversations.
00:27:26.840
Yeah, no, I think that the fact that people are going to kind of get the fly-on-the-wall
00:27:33.700
view of these kind of conversations is pretty awesome. So you'll be able to see clips of
00:27:37.380
my conversation with Jordan here at the coffee shop on YouTube. But if you want to see the
00:27:41.140
whole conversation, which really is the way you should see it, you need to head on over
00:27:43.880
to dailywire.com or check us out on the Daily Wire app. You'll be able to see the whole thing
00:27:49.640
Not only do I want to listen to that conversation, but I want Jordan Peterson's suit. That's a
00:27:56.020
great suit. Oh my gosh, that guy has the best suits. Ben's conversation with Jordan drops
00:28:00.380
tomorrow. It'll only be available at dailywire.com. If you're not a member yet, now is the perfect
00:28:04.760
time to sign up. Head on over to dailywire.com slash subscribe to sign up today. Clips of the
00:28:09.060
show will be available on YouTube, but make sure to subscribe to hear the whole thing.
00:28:26.080
It's just thinking of Liz Cheney. For some reason, Liz Cheney brings to mind Vladimir Putin. I don't
00:28:32.240
know. Maybe it's just because they're both very deceitful people. I don't know. But Vladimir
00:28:36.400
Putin is a top of mind right now and in the news because there is a real chance that tanks are
00:28:44.200
about to roll in Ukraine. I guess that would be another reason is because you had all of these
00:28:49.560
never-Trumper types attacking Trump for colluding with Russia. Then they attack him for colluding
00:28:53.780
with Ukraine. But Ukraine and Russia might go to war, and it won't be much of a war. If Putin
00:28:57.760
invades Ukraine, he's just going to take it. I was talking to Senator Cruz just a week or two ago
00:29:03.420
about this. He thinks that tanks could roll into Ukraine starting maybe beginning of sometime in
00:29:10.040
January. Why would this happen? And what should the United States response be? This would happen
00:29:17.880
because Vladimir Putin has called the collapse of the Soviet Union the greatest geopolitical disaster
00:29:22.840
of the 20th century. And there were a lot of geopolitical disasters in the 20th century. So
00:29:27.200
if he thinks that the collapse of the evil empire is the greatest one, we should take him seriously.
00:29:31.480
And here's his explanation. He says, what's the disintegration within the USSR? That's the
00:29:37.480
collapse of historical Russia called the Soviet Union. We turned into a completely different
00:29:42.400
country, and what had been built up over a thousand years was largely lost. So this is an
00:29:47.400
interesting take from Putin because the traditional take of Russia and the Soviet Union is that you had
00:29:54.760
the Russian nation and the Russian empire, and it had been built up until the revolution, until the
00:30:00.620
Russian revolution, when the commies came in. And then they created this entirely new entity that
00:30:04.820
destroyed Russian history and executed the family of the czar and created the Soviet Union. But that's
00:30:11.820
not what Putin is describing. Putin is saying, no, the Soviet Union was just an extension. It was just
00:30:17.620
the next step of the historic Russian nation. And so when you destroy the Soviet Union, you're actually
00:30:24.640
destroying a thousand years of Russian history. So it's Putin is not viewing it as, as some communist
00:30:29.860
ideologue who hates Russia's history and wants to completely change it. He's, he's viewing himself,
00:30:35.380
it would seem, as a new kind of czar, as just an extension of all the old czars of Russia. And so he wants
00:30:41.700
to get that back. He wants to take back the territory that was lost with the collapse of the Soviet
00:30:45.860
Union. Now in 1991, as the Soviet Union is collapsing, Ukraine votes in a landslide to become an
00:30:55.420
independent nation. Now it's a little complicated because there are still some people in Ukraine who
00:30:58.980
wouldn't mind being part of Russia. And there's just, there's an internal political battle within
00:31:04.080
Ukraine. So the claim against Trump for the past, what, five years is that Trump was colluding with
00:31:13.960
the Russians. And the traditional conservative response to this is no, he's not colluding with
00:31:20.840
the Russians. How dare you say he's colluding with the Russians? Now I've got a little bit of an out
00:31:26.420
there kind of suggestion. I've got a kind of out there left field thought when I hear this accusation
00:31:32.900
that Trump is colluding with the Russians. Namely, should, should we maybe collude with the Russians?
00:31:39.260
I don't look, don't, I don't, please don't yell at me. I know this is, I'm a little out there right now.
00:31:43.960
But if you asked me today, who is our number one geopolitical enemy and threat? Is it Russia
00:31:52.760
or China? Who poses the gravest threat to American power? I'll ask you that quite. What do you think?
00:32:01.860
China, right? It's not even close. It's not even close. China is stealing our technology. They've got
00:32:08.720
an extremely robust economy. They've got a gazillion people in there. They're threatening
00:32:13.520
United States interests around the world. They've got all of our manufacturing. That's a huge national
00:32:18.520
security threat. They own our debt. They're buying up a lot of our labor. They're a huge threat.
00:32:24.880
So when, when the Soviet Union was the big threat during the Cold War,
00:32:29.940
what did the United States do? China, a growing power, Soviet Union, evil empire, our number one
00:32:37.280
enemy in the world. What did we do? We cozied up to China. We cozied up to China to box in the Soviet
00:32:44.560
Union. It was a, it was a Cold War strategy. So I guess my question now is, if China is the grave
00:32:50.860
threat, why would we also want to, why would we want to wage a two front war against China and Russia?
00:32:57.100
Would it not be better? I'm not saying we need to, you know, put out the welcome mat and let the
00:33:01.480
Russians roll into whatever country they want. But, but I am suggesting, wouldn't it be better
00:33:06.060
to have better relations with Russia as we are heating up our tensions with China? It seems to me
00:33:12.520
that we would, and that's not what we're doing. What we're doing is actually pushing China and Russia
00:33:16.440
closer together. Moscow is, is Beijing's largest arms supplier. They provide 70% of China's arms
00:33:25.320
imports between 2014 and 2018. Relations between Moscow and Russia are at a quote, unprecedented,
00:33:31.800
unprecedentedly high level, according to Vladimir Putin. China is a friendly nation, he says. It has
00:33:37.960
not declared us an enemy as the United States has done. China and Russia are united like a mountain and
00:33:43.600
our friendship is unbreakable, says the foreign ministry spokesman, Xiao Lijian in China. So this is
00:33:50.660
obviously what Putin wants. Putin wants a super tight relationship with China. That's obviously
00:33:55.020
what China wants. But what, so why do we want that? That why are we pushing them together? There
00:33:59.800
are a lot of wedges here that we could have. We could, uh, use trade. The trade, uh, between China
00:34:06.400
and Russia is extremely imbalanced. We could use China encroaching on some of Russia's economic
00:34:10.840
territory, buying up resources in Russia, just like they're buying up resources in the United States.
00:34:14.940
We could use it. But I, I just, it seems to me that the thinking of the 1980s is not necessarily
00:34:21.280
going to work in 2020. And a lot of the problems on the right are because we don't recognize that
00:34:26.300
while principles and values remain the same, circumstances change. And so my, my humble
00:34:32.060
suggestion, I just look, did you see Vladimir Putin built this beautiful cathedral in Russia? It's
00:34:36.800
gorgeous, beautiful, beautiful art, architecture. It wasn't merely aping the past. It was, it was
00:34:42.000
taking the best of the past and kind of adding some modern elements. It's a beautiful orthodox
00:34:45.880
cathedral. And then you look at what the Western secularists are doing and they want to turn
00:34:50.120
Notre Dame into some fruity Disneyland. Maybe I, all I'm saying is maybe we should consider to some
00:34:57.480
degree colluding with the Russians. Maybe that's not, not the worst thing in the world because
00:35:02.340
whatever strategy we're pursuing now is not working. And speaking of bad strategies, there's a story
00:35:08.200
out of Oregon, a group of Oregon high school and middle school students. These young girls
00:35:13.800
decided that they were going to protest sexualization by taking off their clothes at school and just
00:35:21.900
wearing their bras. This is a real story. It's not, not the onion. It's not the Babylon Bee.
00:35:30.180
At Southridge High School in Beaverton School District, students came to school in lace bras that
00:35:36.480
revealed everything, did not leave very much to the imagination. Lingerie bottoms, according to one
00:35:41.760
parent. And they did this. They wrote actually some protest slogans on their bodies and some of their
00:35:47.640
clothing that, that said rape culture or educate your boys or my body or my clothing choice. My body,
00:35:55.120
my clothing choice. I don't know what young man at this high school came up with this idea,
00:36:02.600
but he is a genius. He is a devilish, clever man to convince the women that they were going to
00:36:08.940
protest sexualization by taking all their clothes off and parading around for the boys. That's,
00:36:16.240
that is like protesting obesity by eating a bunch of donuts. That is like protesting lung disease by just
00:36:25.480
slurping up cigarettes, not just chain smoking, non-stop. But this, there is a kind of logic to
00:36:34.700
it. Just like there's a kind of logic to defund the police and abolish prisons. If you think America's
00:36:40.900
hopelessly unjust, then obviously you got to dismantle the system of laws. Well, it's the same
00:36:44.680
thing here. This is the logical consequence of this liberal conception of, of the individual being
00:36:52.180
able to do whatever the individual wants based purely on the individual's will. If I want to be
00:36:58.540
a woman, then I really am a woman and my will will transform reality. If I want to pursue whatever
00:37:05.800
desire I want, then I can do that. And you have no right to stop me from doing that. Well, this is the
00:37:12.300
logical conclusion of that. The girls are saying, I don't want boys to look on me with lust. Okay. And I
00:37:20.860
don't, I don't want to have to watch where I walk at night. I don't, I don't want to have to worry
00:37:25.020
about walking down a dark alley, wearing a mini skirt in the middle of the night in the bad section
00:37:29.220
of town. I shouldn't have to worry about that. I'm the victim. Stop victim blaming me. Just teach boys
00:37:34.280
not to rape. Just teach boys not to look lustfully on women. Well, sure. Yeah. There are laws against
00:37:41.640
rape, right there. Of course, that's good. We like that. The law is an instructor. The law is,
00:37:46.220
but you will never, never stop boys from getting a thrill out of seeing naked ladies. It just can't
00:37:55.840
happen. No matter how much you desire that, no matter how intransigent you are and obstinate you
00:38:04.440
are about your rights and your will, you will never convince boys not to think that naked ladies are
00:38:10.320
cute and hot. You will, it can't happen. Well, just teach boys not, no, you're, what you are doing
00:38:16.680
is denying reality and making the problem worse. If you are protesting sexualization by prancing around
00:38:24.920
in your bras, you are not, it just won't help. You're making, when we deny reality, we make problems
00:38:32.160
worse. Though you do wonder with these high school sort of protests, how much of it is just,
00:38:40.240
you know, the more things change, the more things remain the same. How much of this is just the
00:38:45.080
girls putting on a show for the boys and how much of this is the boys, you know, trying to flirt with
00:38:49.620
the girls. I don't, you know, you, you wonder these things, whatever it is, it's not an effective
00:38:53.400
political protest. And whatever, whatever dudes, whatever creepy dudes convince the girls to do
00:39:01.240
this, stop it. That's not, that's not nice to do. Speaking of creepy dudes, I've read, I just read the
00:39:06.500
creepiest opinion column I have ever read in my whole life. And I read a lot of op-eds. Headline,
00:39:13.800
men like me benefit from safe abortion access. This is by Kavon Shroff. He is a senior advisor to the
00:39:26.940
Institute for Education, which is some DC NGO. He's got degrees, I think from pretty fancy schools,
00:39:35.760
Kavon Shroff. And he says that he, a man who has promiscuous sex with women that he doesn't care
00:39:42.480
very much about and doesn't want to be with. He benefits from abortion. Quote, men like me
00:39:47.720
have long been the direct beneficiaries of safe abortion access. Most of the women I've had sex
00:39:52.600
with were also students like me, also progressive and also not at a point in their lives where they
00:39:57.000
were looking or ready to have children. I try to share responsibility for birth control. And if a
00:40:02.680
woman tells me she's on it, I also trust that. Oh, he's, isn't he? He's so progressive. Believe all
00:40:06.720
women, right? If she got pregnant, however, though entirely her decision, I assume we would both want the
00:40:12.400
same thing in abortion. In longer term relationships, we've had explicit discussions about this. So
00:40:16.640
he'll sit down. If he's, if he sleeps with a woman and he, you know, maybe he doesn't really like her,
00:40:21.300
like he doesn't want to marry her or anything, but he likes her well enough to keep sleeping with her
00:40:24.420
for at least some period of time. He's going to sit her down and say, hey, hey, Missy, don't you get
00:40:28.380
any ideas in your head? If there is a product of our fake love, the love that I'm performing, even though
00:40:36.520
I don't actually feel any love for you. If there is any product, namely a new beautiful human being that is
00:40:41.840
a little bit from me and a little bit from you, we're going to kill that thing, right? And we're,
00:40:46.380
and if not, I refuse to keep having casual sex with you for some undetermined amount of time.
00:40:53.040
He says, what if I got a woman pregnant? What if she didn't want to continue the pregnancy,
00:40:57.600
but could not get an abortion? Would we try to stay together even if it wasn't a fit? Hey,
00:41:03.060
Buster, pretty sure it was a fit. Okay. I'm pretty sure that's kind of the issue in the first place,
00:41:07.620
right? But it wasn't, but it's not a fit. It's a fit physically, but it's not, I don't actually like
00:41:11.980
her soul or her spirit or her mind. I don't like, it's not a fit. Would we stay together?
00:41:17.300
How would I provide for the child? Would I have to get a job? Oh, I don't want to get a job.
00:41:22.440
What kind of custody or visitation rights would I get if we weren't together? Oh God, that'd be,
00:41:27.320
would I want that? Would I have to, I'd have to see the kid and work and then pay for the kid?
00:41:32.140
Would adoption really be a consideration as Justice Amy Coney Barrett recently glibly suggested?
00:41:40.720
I love that this, this guy is accusing someone else of being glib. This guy who thinks it's
00:41:48.640
unjust and insane not to let him kill his children with all the women that he's using.
00:41:54.020
He's suggesting that a Supreme Court justice with adopted children is being glib about adoption.
00:41:59.080
If so, would the child face an abusive welfare system? I'm going to pause there. No, the child
00:42:04.020
wouldn't because for every infant put up for adoption in the United States, for every newborn
00:42:07.780
baby, there are an estimated 36 couples trying to adopt that baby. There was no, the children who
00:42:13.320
end up in the foster care system or the government system are, they're obviously, that's a terrible
00:42:19.880
system. We should reform it as best we can, but it's not little babies being put up for,
00:42:24.400
for those systems. It's older kids being taken out of bad homes and those are harder to adopt.
00:42:29.460
In terms of the little babies, there is no shortage of adoptive parents. The questions and worries
00:42:36.500
abound. So I read this, I read this creepy column by creepy Cabin Shroff and I see just a lot of red
00:42:45.740
flags. Not for me, what do I care? I don't have any intention of sleeping with Mr. Shroff.
00:42:50.320
But for all these other women, if, if it's him or if it's some other dude who's really,
00:42:57.260
really into abortion, run, run for your life, lady. Let there be a lady shaped hole in the wall
00:43:04.620
where you run away from this guy. What do you get out of this? The one thing you could say you get
00:43:11.720
out of this is some pleasure from sex. But does anyone, if we're all being really,
00:43:18.600
really honest about reality and we're not buying into crazy left-wing ideologies,
00:43:22.560
does anyone really believe that women get the same sort of pleasure from sex that men do?
00:43:28.880
I, I don't really buy that. I don't, and I don't think women, if they're being honest with
00:43:34.220
themselves really buy that either. Did you know that over 85% of grass-fed beef sold in U.S.
00:43:40.080
grocery stores is imported? That's why I buy all my meat from GoodRanchers.com instead.
00:43:45.720
Good Ranchers products are 100% born, raised, and harvested right here in the USA from local family
00:43:50.700
farms. Plus, there's no antibiotics ever, no added hormones, and no seed oils. Just one simple
00:43:56.460
ingredient. That's meat. Best of all, Good Ranchers delivers straight to your door for added convenience.
00:44:01.080
So lock in a secure supply of American meat today. Subscribe now at GoodRanchers.com and get free
00:44:06.240
meat for life and $40 off with code DAILYWIRE. That's $40 off and free meat for life with code
00:44:11.520
DAILYWIRE. Good Ranchers, American meat delivered. This is, talk about tricks that dudes play on
00:44:17.860
chicks. I think all of feminism is basically just a trick that dudes played on chicks.
00:44:24.420
Right, oh yeah, you know what would be really, you know what would be a really effective political
00:44:27.700
protest if you took all your clothes off and danced around in front of me? That would
00:44:30.940
be really, that would be totally, free the nipple. Remember that movement? There was the
00:44:34.380
free the nipple movement to try to have more obscene imagery on social media. Oh yeah, that
00:44:39.300
would be empowering if you got naked and jiggled in front of me. Yeah, that would be really empowering.
00:44:43.800
And you know what else would be really empowering? If you slept with me without asking anything of me
00:44:48.240
whatsoever and not requiring me to be accountable or responsible to you at all. That would be,
00:44:52.580
you would be so, man, that'd make you so strong. So we're doing that? That's cool. That's good.
00:44:58.640
That works? No. What do women get out of that? What do women get out of creepy dudes like Cave
00:45:03.620
and Shroff? Nothing. You get nothing. You just get used. And then he's going to move on. And if he
00:45:09.000
does knock you up, he's going to make you kill that kid, or he's going to really put a lot of
00:45:12.760
pressure on you to kill your kid. And then he's going to leave you. And then there's going to be
00:45:15.720
another Cave and Shroff who comes along and does the same thing. And then you're going to do that.
00:45:20.180
And probably you're going to be in, you're in some liberal social circles and you're going to be in some
00:45:23.500
major metropolitan area. And like a hundred guys are going to do that. And then guys aren't going
00:45:27.760
to like you anymore because they're going to go for some younger girl that they convinced to dance
00:45:30.840
around naked for him. And you are going to be left high and dry, lady. Don't do it. Don't fall for
00:45:37.480
these guys. Goodness gracious. I'm on a mission of mercy here. Come on. What are you doing? Speaking
00:45:43.260
of abortion, who gets abortions? Who gets abortions? Asks the New York Times. It's a big piece. This is a big
00:45:51.280
do not overturn Roe versus Wade activist piece in the New York Times. They say the typical patient,
00:45:58.360
here we go, typical patient is already a mother, is in her late twenties, attended some college,
00:46:04.800
but doesn't have a degree, has a low income, has a low income. I'm going to underline that one.
00:46:10.140
Low income. Is unmarried. Is in her first six weeks of pregnancy. Is having her first abortion. Lives
00:46:16.920
in a blue state. That's the, and so come on. Even you pro-lifers need to admit we need abortion,
00:46:25.360
right? We need abortion because abortion mostly just kills poor people. Look, they're poor. She's
00:46:33.440
poor. You want, you want more poor babies? And they're going to be all, you know, they're going
00:46:38.200
to be all like wanting your money and they're going to be all like, you know, poor and it's going to be
00:46:43.000
icky and you're gonna have to walk by them on the street and, and she's unmarried. So you might
00:46:47.740
need to pay more in taxes or really, I don't know. Usually the welfare systems, the foster care
00:46:52.900
system is so terrible and the government run childcare systems are so terrible. Maybe you'd
00:46:57.780
have to, you'd have to give more to charity. Oh, that's no good. And look, she's not, she doesn't
00:47:03.580
even have a college degree. She's not even educated in the way that the liberal establishment wants her
00:47:07.860
to be. So she's, what, what the New York Times is saying is that the women who get abortions
00:47:12.200
are poor and dumb and we don't want them to have kids, right? That's what's underlying all of this.
00:47:25.580
Pretty, pretty ghastly take. I'm going to go out there. I'm going to, and again, this is going to
00:47:30.260
be kind of wacky and crazy and out of left field. I don't think that we should kill all the poor people.
00:47:35.120
I don't think that we should kill all the people who are below a certain IQ or a certain level of
00:47:40.640
educational attainment, especially the, especially the latter. Good grief. As, as though, as though a
00:47:46.520
college degree implied really much of anything these days with the collapse of our educational
00:47:53.260
system. But I don't think we should kill dumb people either. And I don't think we should kill
00:47:57.340
people based on their race. And I don't think we should kill people based on their geography. And I
00:48:02.280
just don't, I just don't think we should kill innocent people. But this is how they think.
00:48:08.340
This, this is how they think, which is ghastly. And this is how they think that we think,
00:48:13.280
which is pretty, pretty sad as well. Just a little final point on this. Dr. Oz, Dr. Oz is TV host.
00:48:22.220
He's running for Senate as a Republican in Pennsylvania now. But there was a video that came out of him
00:48:29.120
making fun of the pro-life movement and pro-life people. This was some time ago. And so now he's
00:48:34.260
being grilled about this on Fox News. He refuses to really give an answer on when he thinks life
00:48:40.820
begins. What is your position as both a doctor and a senatorial candidate on when life begins?
00:48:47.400
When should we draw the line when abortion is, is legal?
00:48:51.940
As a doctor, I appreciate the sanctity of life. And for that reason, I'm strongly pro-life with the
00:48:59.060
three exceptions I've mentioned. That's how I would vote. And when does that life begin?
00:49:06.140
You know, again, if I'm pro-life, then it's a decision that comes back to the sanctity of when
00:49:10.500
you think life does begin. And I believe it begins when you're in the mother's womb.
00:49:15.440
When you're in the mother's womb, but that, that carries you all the way up to nine months of
00:49:18.540
pregnancy. No, of course not. Life's already started when you're in your mother's womb.
00:49:23.640
But it's a rat hole to get trapped in the different ways of talking about it. We need as a nation to
00:49:28.860
make sure the constitution is appropriately followed and people like me, and you may be in the same camp
00:49:33.880
who are pro-life, have our feelings respected. And this is something that should not be taken away
00:49:38.200
from us by judiciary legislating from the bench. Yeah. But that's also something that's going to have
00:49:43.340
to be legislated. And that answer is going to have to be given specifically.
00:49:46.200
Good on this guy. This interviewer is doing a great job here. That is some weak sauce
00:49:51.260
from Dr. Oz. How hard is it to say conception? How hard is it to say? This is,
00:49:57.200
this is the simplest answer. This is the most tried and true answer. This is the
00:50:02.520
true by definition answer. When does life begin? It begins at conception, at the conception of life.
00:50:07.740
It begins, you know, when does life begin? It begins, you know, when we decide, when we need to
00:50:12.860
have people make their decision about, and it comes to the question of when does life begin?
00:50:16.820
Yeah, buddy, that's what I'm asking you. What's it, when does it begin? It begins,
00:50:19.980
and that's a clever answer. He says, it begins when you're in the mother's womb.
00:50:24.140
Well, yeah, we all, we all agree with that. Even the most radical pro-abortion people,
00:50:30.240
I guess with maybe a couple of exceptions, believe that life begins, you know, at least by the day
00:50:34.720
before birth when you're in the mother's womb. So when though, when, when does it be, well, you know,
00:50:40.020
and it, uh, it's already begun at, you know, okay, well, so say, so just say it, say, but he can't
00:50:46.820
say it. Even John McCain would say it. Remember John McCain, who is, you know, a little on the
00:50:52.180
squishier side when it comes to conservatism. John McCain said it during his presidential race. He said,
00:50:57.360
I believe life begins at conception. Why is it so hard for Dr. Oz? Maybe because Dr. Oz
00:51:01.840
doesn't really believe it. We are in a moment right now where we are moving the Overton window,
00:51:08.440
where we are aggressive, where conservatives are actually making substantial wins.
00:51:13.300
We're stopping woke. We're doing the stop woke act. We're making big wins. Don't settle for
00:51:19.100
squishes, folks. I'm Michael Knowles. This is the Michael Knowles Show. I'll see you tomorrow.
00:51:27.780
If you enjoyed this episode, don't forget to subscribe.
00:51:30.560
And if you want to help spread the word, please give us a five-star review and tell
00:51:34.680
your friends to subscribe. We're available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and wherever else you
00:51:40.300
listen to podcasts. Also, be sure to check out the other Daily Wire podcasts, including
00:51:44.880
The Ben Shapiro Show, The Andrew Klavan Show, and The Matt Walsh Show.
00:51:48.520
The Michael Knowles Show is produced by Ben Davies. Executive producer, Jeremy Boring. Our technical
00:51:53.920
director is Austin Stevens. Supervising producer, Mathis Glover. Production manager, Pavel Vidovsky.
00:52:00.340
Editor and associate producer, Danny D'Amico. Associate producer, Justine Turley. Audio mixer,
00:52:06.220
Mike Coromina. And hair and makeup by Cherokee Heart. The Michael Knowles Show is a Daily Wire production.
00:52:13.360
Today on The Matt Walsh Show, a new survey reveals that huge numbers of Americans have
00:52:17.580
left religion in recent years, especially since COVID. But that's not actually correct.
00:52:21.780
Americans aren't leaving religion. They're going from one religion to a different one.
00:52:25.160
I'll explain. Also, Ron DeSantis continues to lead the charge against wokeness in the school
00:52:28.660
system. And airline CEOs try to explain why it's stupid to require masks on planes.
00:52:33.480
Plus, a leading climate activist and quote-unquote scientist calls for more censorship of climate
00:52:38.360
denialism. And a daily cancellation. Kamala Harris is canceled, but perhaps not for the reasons
00:52:42.980
you may think. All of that and more today on The Matt Walsh Show.