The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 907 - Florida Man Takes On The Woke Enemy

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00:00:42.160 There is, of course, the Uniting and Strengthening America by Providing Appropriate Tools Required

00:00:47.140 to Intercept and Obstruct Terrorism Act of 2001, also known as the Patriot Act, USA Patriot Act.

00:00:52.940 There is the Uniting and Strengthening America by Fulfilling Rights and Ensuring Effective

00:00:57.360 Discipline Over Monitoring Act of 2015, or the USA Freedom Act. Boy, that's a good acronym. 0.97

00:01:04.100 But I think that Florida Governor Ron DeSantis may have just come up with the best one yet.

00:01:09.680 A new piece of legislation for the upcoming legislative session

00:01:13.240 called Stop Wrongs Against Our Kids and Employees Act, the Stop Woke Act. 0.80

00:01:18.200 And it's something that...

00:01:22.200 The Stop Woke Act, an excellent acronym and an even more excellent piece of legislation.

00:01:28.760 I'm Michael Knowles. This is The Michael Knowles Show.

00:01:37.060 Welcome back to the show.

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00:01:52.680 The Oscars are too white. And that's all... All Jesse was doing was diversifying 0.64

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00:03:17.320 I totally love the Stop Woke Act. I don't only love it because of how great the acronym is,

00:03:23.620 that the acronym is magnificent. I love it because of what the law does. Governor DeSantis,

00:03:29.020 tell us what it does.

00:03:29.760 And this will do a number of things that are very important. One, it will put into statute

00:03:35.080 the Department of Education's prohibition on CRT in K-12 schools. No taxpayer dollars

00:03:43.940 should be used to teach our kids to hate our country or to hate each other.

00:03:55.960 And that's important and that's all well and good, but I think what we've seen,

00:03:59.760 recently, is you can legislate things like Parents' Bill of Rights. You can have certain

00:04:05.220 things and sometimes the school districts don't always follow it. And so we are going to be

00:04:10.100 including in this legislation, giving parents a private right of action to be able to enforce

00:04:17.240 the prohibition on CRT and they get to recover attorney's fees when they prevail, which is very

00:04:24.160 important.

00:04:26.620 This is really good stuff. This is a great use by conservatives of the government to save our

00:04:36.660 culture. He says it right there. He says the legislation has to have teeth. It's one thing

00:04:41.520 to pass it, but how are you going to enforce it? Well, one way you're going to enforce it

00:04:44.840 is allowing a private right of action for these parents to go after the schools. This is just

00:04:50.500 sort of thing that you saw in the Texas pro-life law where you are empowering citizens to sue

00:04:55.940 the abortionists. So there's a mechanism in there to actually hold these people accountable. We know

00:05:00.600 that the teachers, because of the teacher unions, are unaccountable. There are plenty of good teachers

00:05:07.080 out there and there are a lot of really bad teachers out there. And you can't really discriminate

00:05:11.940 between the two because the teacher unions are so strong they're going to do whatever they want. 0.99

00:05:15.760 We know that administrations are not really held to account all that often in the school

00:05:20.700 districts. And so here's one way we can do it. The parents can actually take legal action here

00:05:24.980 for the Stop Woke Act. I suspect the squishy people, I suspect maybe some of the libertarians,

00:05:33.580 they're not going to like this very much because this is imposing limits on academic freedom and the

00:05:40.900 freedom of teachers and it's limiting things in the classroom. Yeah, right. That's what,

00:05:45.180 that's what you have to do. That's what you have to do. That's the only way that you can have a

00:05:50.420 coherent culture. Academic, I've said it before, I wrote a book about this called Speechless Controlling

00:05:55.380 Words, Controlling Minds, available now. Great book to put in a Christmas stocking. The libs used the

00:06:01.100 nonsensical concept of academic freedom, the hoax in William F. Buckley Jr.'s words of academic freedom

00:06:07.300 to cram in all of their insane ideas into the curriculum. And when they put in all of their crazy ideas,

00:06:13.760 that necessarily crowded out all of the other ideas, the good, conservative, normal, true ideas,

00:06:19.380 and contradicted them in many cases. So what we need to do, if we want to be able to take that back,

00:06:24.360 if we want to be able to take back education, which means if we want to be able to take back

00:06:27.480 the next generations of Americans, we have got to push out all the crazy left-wing ideas and

00:06:32.960 the Stop Woke Act is a great way to do it. If you don't like the Stop Woke Act, boy, howdy, you are not

00:06:37.760 going to like the other law that is being proposed in Florida, which is a bill to require sports teams

00:06:45.180 to sing the national anthem before sporting events. Ooh, ooh, speaking of some of the good uses of

00:06:54.220 big government, this is a great one. New bill filed by State Representative Tommy Gregory is a Sarasota

00:07:03.460 area Republican lawmaker. This would require professional, not all sports teams, not necessarily

00:07:09.600 high school or college, but professional sports teams to play the national anthem before home games

00:07:14.400 in order to receive government funding. This legislation follows a similar bill in Texas

00:07:19.680 that came up after that jerk who runs the Dallas Mavericks stopped playing the national anthem

00:07:26.120 before their games. Really good stuff. So it's not as knuckle-dragging and authoritarian and right-wing

00:07:34.020 as people are going to say. It's not saying that you're going to go to jail if you don't play the

00:07:38.400 national anthem. It's saying if you want to receive government money, then you need to stand up for the

00:07:42.080 flag and you need to support our Star-Spangled Banner and our national anthem. If you're going to be a 1.00

00:07:46.880 professional sports team, you're already getting a ton of tax perks anyway. You are affiliated with the

00:07:52.580 state or sports just like all games throughout all history in governments have been a patriotic

00:08:01.220 thing. And so now they've been turned against patriotism because the left has abused concepts

00:08:08.460 such as free speech and free expression and taken them to insane extremes to undermine the state itself.

00:08:16.400 So we're going to go in there and take that back. This is great stuff. One of the arguments

00:08:22.360 from the squishes and maybe some libertarians is that this is tyrannical. If a sports team doesn't

00:08:28.280 want to stand up and play the national anthem, then they shouldn't be forced to. The law merely has to

00:08:35.540 enable people to do whatever they want. The law needs to respect the individual choices. That's

00:08:40.860 not exactly true. Okay, first of all, law by its very nature applies to everybody, not just to

00:08:50.080 the individual whims of individual people. So no, obviously the law is an imposition to some degree.

00:08:57.720 And while we in recent years come to think of the law as merely just reflecting our own will,

00:09:05.000 right? We, we the people have a will and then we push that will through legislation and then the law

00:09:12.900 reflects that. It goes the other way as well. And I think we need to recognize this.

00:09:17.060 The law does not just react to what we want. The law also instructs and informs what we want.

00:09:26.960 Statesmen throughout all of history, everywhere in the world have, have known this.

00:09:31.680 That, uh, for instance, some people might want to do drugs, but the law has a prohibition against

00:09:37.480 drugs and it discourages the use of drugs. And then it creates perhaps taboos around the use of drugs.

00:09:42.320 And then people do fewer drugs less often. These rules have weakened in recent years because people

00:09:47.760 have changed the law and the law doesn't merely reflect cultural changes, but the law pushes cultural

00:09:52.120 changes as well. Before the gay marriage decision from the Supreme Court, before Obergefell,

00:09:59.480 the culture had a far, uh, less accepting view of the idea that marriage means something totally

00:10:07.140 different than it had always meant. Now, because of that change in the law, people have a very

00:10:12.020 different view. I'm not even, I don't for the moment even care to talk about gay marriage or drugs

00:10:18.300 or whatever. I'm just pointing out the fact that the law can affect the way people think about things.

00:10:24.060 And so I think we ought to use the law and the government for good stuff. If they're going to,

00:10:28.320 if the libs are going to use the law and the government to attack our country and take away patriotism,

00:10:32.140 I think we should use it to instill patriotism. If the libs are going to use the coercive

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00:10:43.900 we should use it for the opposite because that's a good thing. Well, what's the difference between

00:10:48.500 the right and the left? If we're both willing to use the law and we're both willing to use the

00:10:51.680 education system, the difference is the substance. What are we teaching? What laws are we imposing?

00:10:57.280 What are we standing for the, for the national anthem or are we disrespecting the national anthem?

00:11:01.160 Those are different things. Even if the law is impelling you to do something in both cases.

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00:13:46.840 all over the United States. I guess you could say it's been going on for over a year now because

00:13:50.160 left-wing activists and peaceful protesters and demonstrators decided to burn the country down

00:13:55.300 from sea to the shiny sea. But you're seeing this now without even the facade or pretense of

00:14:00.900 activism. You're just seeing gangs of criminals go into Walgreens and CVS and just steal tons and

00:14:06.240 tons of stuff, break into jewelry stores. It's being filmed. Sometimes it's happening in broad

00:14:10.220 daylight and the cops aren't doing anything about it. I don't blame them. The politicians won't let

00:14:15.020 the cops do anything about it. And if the cops do anything and it contradicts some racial narrative

00:14:20.900 or it falls into a certain narrative category on the left, then the cops could have their lives

00:14:26.220 completely ruined. As these left-wing lawmakers are calling for the police departments to be

00:14:31.640 defunded and for prisons to be abolished. So I don't really blame the cops here, but what are we

00:14:36.580 going to do about it? Well, Nancy Pelosi was just asked about this and she basically just shrugged her

00:14:43.420 shoulders. What do you think about some of this crime, specifically in San Francisco,

00:14:48.400 smash and grabs? And also generally, is there some sort of a federal response? You know,

00:14:52.680 we've passed crime bills here before. Is there something looking at some of these problems?

00:14:56.040 Well, it is. It's absolutely outrageous. Obviously, it cannot continue. But the fact is that there is

00:15:04.020 an attitude of lawlessness in our country that springs from, I don't know where. Maybe you do.

00:15:13.200 And we cannot have that lawlessness become the norm. There's an attitude of lawlessness,

00:15:19.960 but who knows where it comes from, says Nancy Pelosi, one of the leaders of the Democratic Party

00:15:26.400 that has been saying for years now that we need to abolish the police, that we need to defund the

00:15:32.400 police. And in their defense, sort of in their defense, the logic of their argument is that America

00:15:40.200 is an evil place. The reason that they're saying we need to defund the police and empty out all the

00:15:45.780 prisons is not even because they think that there's no such thing as justice or justice is

00:15:52.660 not a worthwhile goal or virtue. They're saying that America is unjust, intrinsically unjust. It'll

00:15:58.220 always be unjust because it's white supremacist and racist and whatever nonsense they spout.

00:16:04.780 So because of that, the American system of law is necessarily evil and unjust. And therefore,

00:16:12.040 we've got to get rid of it. I don't think I'm being hyperbolic when I say that the cause of the

00:16:18.340 lawlessness in America is entirely the fault of the left. They are openly calling for lawlessness.

00:16:27.420 You even see it in the way they approach the Constitution, right? Their interpretive principle

00:16:32.220 for the Constitution is that America's evil and terrible and unjust and all our laws are terrible and

00:16:37.300 it's based on white supremacists and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And therefore, we need to just

00:16:41.260 rewrite the Constitution from the bench. And yeah, there's no right to an abortion in the 0.99

00:16:45.580 Constitution, but there should be. So we're just going to put it in there. What are you going to

00:16:49.180 do about it? That is lawlessness. And so it is no surprise when criminals go out on the streets.

00:16:56.760 And then the cherry on top of that Sunday is that when all of these thugs went out on the streets and

00:17:01.520 started burning and stealing and looting and killing last year, these people, these elected Democrats

00:17:08.020 actively encouraged that. They donated to the bail funds for these people. Kamala Harris donated to

00:17:15.880 the bail funds for these people or posted the link and encouraged other people to donate. Staffers for

00:17:20.920 Joe Biden did the same thing. So that's where the lawlessness comes from. Now, speaking of crime,

00:17:28.560 the left does not want to talk about the smash and grabs. AOC, you'll remember,

00:17:34.060 wouldn't even go so far as Pelosi to acknowledge it. AOC said, oh, it's not happening. Don't believe

00:17:41.320 your lying eyes. Don't believe the retail associations. Don't believe Walgreens. So

00:17:46.600 Pelosi will at least acknowledge it. But the Democrats want to talk about a far worse crime

00:17:51.580 than, you know, the zillions of dollars being stolen and the arson and the looting and the killing and

00:17:57.340 all that. The libs want to talk about January 6th. Here is James Carville, very influential and

00:18:07.020 prominent Democrat strategist describing the massive criminal act of January 6th.

00:18:13.600 It was a massive criminal act. The people who penetrated that capital were criminals. The people

00:18:20.440 that helped him penetrate the capital are criminals. You're a lawyer. You know this. If I drive the getaway

00:18:25.400 car or I case the place out, I'm just as guilty as the trigger man. All right. That's the way the law

00:18:31.620 operates. And they're going to find that members of Congress were aiding and abetting this, that Trump

00:18:36.420 was behind it. Major people in the administration were behind it. And we have to remember, this is a

00:18:42.460 massive criminal attack. It just wasn't an assault on the temple of democracy or whatever we say.

00:18:48.360 These were criminals in that building. And these were people on Fox who were aiding and abetting

00:18:54.860 criminality. That's not a good thing. Not in a nation of laws. And I hope that they stay very,

00:19:02.140 very aggressive and expose these criminals and the people that supported them to the very extent

00:19:08.060 that they possibly can. Man, these Democrats, they get real tough on crime when you're talking about

00:19:14.260 the horn guy dancing around the Capitol rotunda. They get really tough on crime when some Midwestern dad

00:19:21.040 cracks a Coors Light and puts his thumb up in front of a picture in the Capitol. They get really,

00:19:27.900 they are ready to send you to Gitmo. They're probably going to bring back the death penalty

00:19:33.080 in a lot of their states when you're talking about that Florida guy who was smiling with Nancy Pelosi's

00:19:37.660 lectern as he'd walked out of the Capitol with it. Not so tough when it comes to actual crime.

00:19:44.860 Not so tough when it comes to actual looting and robbing and killing. Because this is friend-enemy

00:19:52.260 politics, right? This is the BLM people are my friends. The Antifa people are my friends. So I'm

00:19:57.600 just not going to prosecute them. And the horn guy is my enemy. And so I am going to pretend that this guy

00:20:04.060 is the gravest threat to the United States ever that we've ever faced. And there's no objective

00:20:10.720 standard here. It's just, I like my friends. I hate my enemies. That's what they're talking about.

00:20:15.500 And Carville goes pretty far. He doesn't just say that the, the eccentric people at the Capitol

00:20:19.440 who didn't, who didn't kill people, who didn't kill cops, who didn't do any of the things that the

00:20:24.080 libs say that they did. He's saying it wasn't just them who were the terrible criminals. It's Trump.

00:20:28.340 Trump was behind it. We got him now. There's good. Stay tuned. Buckle up, buckaroo. There is really

00:20:34.360 serious stuff coming out of the January 6th commission. How stupid do they think we are?

00:20:43.160 Very stupid, I guess. Stupid they think we are. How many times are they going to pull this?

00:20:50.000 Oh, just you wait. We've got a Russia investigation. Trump is behind a massive crime.

00:20:56.600 Oh, just you wait. We're going to get him. We're going to get him. What happened with that? They

00:21:02.060 didn't get him. Oh, but we forget Russia for a second. Now, Ukraine, you know, Russia's enemy. 0.52

00:21:08.220 We got, well, he was actually, yeah, maybe he wasn't colluding with the Russians, but he's

00:21:11.440 colluding with the Ukrainians. Yeah. Oh, we got him. Massive crime. We're going to, we're going to 1.00

00:21:16.060 get him. What's going to, and what happened with that? Oh, they didn't get him on that. Oh,

00:21:21.260 oh, it's Mueller time, baby. Nope. No, that, that didn't. Well, we're going to,

00:21:25.560 the Southern district is going to get him. Is that okay? Is that, and the investigation and we're

00:21:30.980 going to, and now, so now it's January 6th. And, and then Carville goes out. It's the most

00:21:35.700 implausible of all. He goes, well, now you had, you had Fox News, Fox News, and Trump. It's not my,

00:21:41.800 it's not a great James Carville impression. And we were, and they were doing it. We're wrongdoing.

00:21:45.620 They are doing it. What wrongdoing? The texts that came out, which by the way, were, were doctored.

00:21:50.900 We, we recently learned the texts that came out from Fox News hosts and conservatives texting the

00:21:58.360 White House and Don Jr. Even texting the White House, texting Mark Meadows, the White House chief

00:22:02.420 of staff and saying, Hey, this is bad. Stop this. Have Trump go out there and speak. They, if anything,

00:22:08.440 they show that the prominent conservatives were discouraging any sort of violence at the Capitol.

00:22:15.760 Right. They weren't saying, yeah, go get them. They were saying, no, get the president out there to

00:22:19.820 go tell people to go home. And then what, what happened? That's exactly what happened. Trump went out

00:22:25.280 and said, Hey, stop it. Go home. Totally exonerates everybody.

00:22:32.280 But they're going to gin it up and gin it up and gin, and then nothing's going to come of it. And

00:22:36.480 you know what? They're going to, they're just going to do it again. They're going to pick another topic

00:22:40.920 and do it again, another non-traversy and do it again. And it's going to be mostly Democrats leading

00:22:46.560 the charge with a handful of court jester conservatives there as well. Like Liz Cheney, 1.00

00:22:52.280 speaking of January 6th and the January 6th commission, turns out that at least one of just

00:22:57.240 two nominally Republican members on the January 6th commission is getting a ton of money from lib

00:23:03.600 donors. Liz Cheney raked in about 55 grand from the same donors who fund the Lincoln project. The 0.92

00:23:11.660 Lincoln project is this scandal ridden left-wing operation by a bunch of disgruntled former Republican

00:23:18.420 operatives who couldn't get jobs anymore. So they started to work for Democrats. And then one of

00:23:22.300 them got in trouble because it turned out he was grooming young boys for sex. And so, so the Lincoln

00:23:28.160 project, not a very reputable, honorable organization. And the same donors to the Lincoln project are

00:23:33.940 funding Liz Cheney. A lot of money. A billionaire, John Pritzker, who's given a hundred grand to the

00:23:41.080 Lincoln project, gave Cheney over 21 grand. Another Silicon Valley investor, Ron Conway, top donor to the

00:23:47.040 Lincoln project gave Liz Cheney and her campaign committees the same amount of money. Just for the

00:23:52.780 people who say Liz Cheney's actually, her voting record's fairly conservative. Yeah, whatever. 0.63

00:23:56.620 When push comes to shove at the crucial moments, she sides with the other guys. This is friend,

00:24:03.780 friend, enemy politics. Gets right back to it. She's at the, where it counts. She sides with the other 0.96

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00:26:21.840 Last night, you dragged me to Robert's Western world, and you were like the guy of the house.

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00:26:32.100 Playing the guitar at the sea. He's a deadly man, yeah. Kelly's Heroes, they're a deadly band.

00:26:36.300 I will say, I feel like I was a little more dressed for it. Like, I was wearing a t-shirt and a

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00:26:48.720 exactly. Damn right. It was really fun being there with you. Oh, yeah. No, that was awesome.

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00:28:26.080 It's just thinking of Liz Cheney. For some reason, Liz Cheney brings to mind Vladimir Putin. I don't

00:28:32.240 know. Maybe it's just because they're both very deceitful people. I don't know. But Vladimir

00:28:36.400 Putin is a top of mind right now and in the news because there is a real chance that tanks are

00:28:44.200 about to roll in Ukraine. I guess that would be another reason is because you had all of these 0.99

00:28:49.560 never-Trumper types attacking Trump for colluding with Russia. Then they attack him for colluding

00:28:53.780 with Ukraine. But Ukraine and Russia might go to war, and it won't be much of a war. If Putin

00:28:57.760 invades Ukraine, he's just going to take it. I was talking to Senator Cruz just a week or two ago

00:29:03.420 about this. He thinks that tanks could roll into Ukraine starting maybe beginning of sometime in

00:29:10.040 January. Why would this happen? And what should the United States response be? This would happen

00:29:17.880 because Vladimir Putin has called the collapse of the Soviet Union the greatest geopolitical disaster

00:29:22.840 of the 20th century. And there were a lot of geopolitical disasters in the 20th century. So

00:29:27.200 if he thinks that the collapse of the evil empire is the greatest one, we should take him seriously.

00:29:31.480 And here's his explanation. He says, what's the disintegration within the USSR? That's the

00:29:37.480 collapse of historical Russia called the Soviet Union. We turned into a completely different 0.96

00:29:42.400 country, and what had been built up over a thousand years was largely lost. So this is an

00:29:47.400 interesting take from Putin because the traditional take of Russia and the Soviet Union is that you had

00:29:54.760 the Russian nation and the Russian empire, and it had been built up until the revolution, until the

00:30:00.620 Russian revolution, when the commies came in. And then they created this entirely new entity that

00:30:04.820 destroyed Russian history and executed the family of the czar and created the Soviet Union. But that's 0.88

00:30:11.820 not what Putin is describing. Putin is saying, no, the Soviet Union was just an extension. It was just

00:30:17.620 the next step of the historic Russian nation. And so when you destroy the Soviet Union, you're actually

00:30:24.640 destroying a thousand years of Russian history. So it's Putin is not viewing it as, as some communist

00:30:29.860 ideologue who hates Russia's history and wants to completely change it. He's, he's viewing himself,

00:30:35.380 it would seem, as a new kind of czar, as just an extension of all the old czars of Russia. And so he wants

00:30:41.700 to get that back. He wants to take back the territory that was lost with the collapse of the Soviet

00:30:45.860 Union. Now in 1991, as the Soviet Union is collapsing, Ukraine votes in a landslide to become an

00:30:55.420 independent nation. Now it's a little complicated because there are still some people in Ukraine who

00:30:58.980 wouldn't mind being part of Russia. And there's just, there's an internal political battle within

00:31:04.080 Ukraine. So the claim against Trump for the past, what, five years is that Trump was colluding with

00:31:13.960 the Russians. And the traditional conservative response to this is no, he's not colluding with

00:31:20.840 the Russians. How dare you say he's colluding with the Russians? Now I've got a little bit of an out

00:31:26.420 there kind of suggestion. I've got a kind of out there left field thought when I hear this accusation

00:31:32.900 that Trump is colluding with the Russians. Namely, should, should we maybe collude with the Russians?

00:31:39.260 I don't look, don't, I don't, please don't yell at me. I know this is, I'm a little out there right now.

00:31:43.960 But if you asked me today, who is our number one geopolitical enemy and threat? Is it Russia

00:31:52.760 or China? Who poses the gravest threat to American power? I'll ask you that quite. What do you think? 0.62

00:32:01.860 China, right? It's not even close. It's not even close. China is stealing our technology. They've got 0.90

00:32:08.720 an extremely robust economy. They've got a gazillion people in there. They're threatening

00:32:13.520 United States interests around the world. They've got all of our manufacturing. That's a huge national

00:32:18.520 security threat. They own our debt. They're buying up a lot of our labor. They're a huge threat.

00:32:24.880 So when, when the Soviet Union was the big threat during the Cold War,

00:32:29.940 what did the United States do? China, a growing power, Soviet Union, evil empire, our number one 1.00

00:32:37.280 enemy in the world. What did we do? We cozied up to China. We cozied up to China to box in the Soviet 0.97

00:32:44.560 Union. It was a, it was a Cold War strategy. So I guess my question now is, if China is the grave 0.75

00:32:50.860 threat, why would we also want to, why would we want to wage a two front war against China and Russia?

00:32:57.100 Would it not be better? I'm not saying we need to, you know, put out the welcome mat and let the

00:33:01.480 Russians roll into whatever country they want. But, but I am suggesting, wouldn't it be better 1.00

00:33:06.060 to have better relations with Russia as we are heating up our tensions with China? It seems to me

00:33:12.520 that we would, and that's not what we're doing. What we're doing is actually pushing China and Russia 0.72

00:33:16.440 closer together. Moscow is, is Beijing's largest arms supplier. They provide 70% of China's arms

00:33:25.320 imports between 2014 and 2018. Relations between Moscow and Russia are at a quote, unprecedented,

00:33:31.800 unprecedentedly high level, according to Vladimir Putin. China is a friendly nation, he says. It has

00:33:37.960 not declared us an enemy as the United States has done. China and Russia are united like a mountain and

00:33:43.600 our friendship is unbreakable, says the foreign ministry spokesman, Xiao Lijian in China. So this is

00:33:50.660 obviously what Putin wants. Putin wants a super tight relationship with China. That's obviously

00:33:55.020 what China wants. But what, so why do we want that? That why are we pushing them together? There 0.64

00:33:59.800 are a lot of wedges here that we could have. We could, uh, use trade. The trade, uh, between China

00:34:06.400 and Russia is extremely imbalanced. We could use China encroaching on some of Russia's economic

00:34:10.840 territory, buying up resources in Russia, just like they're buying up resources in the United States.

00:34:14.940 We could use it. But I, I just, it seems to me that the thinking of the 1980s is not necessarily

00:34:21.280 going to work in 2020. And a lot of the problems on the right are because we don't recognize that

00:34:26.300 while principles and values remain the same, circumstances change. And so my, my humble

00:34:32.060 suggestion, I just look, did you see Vladimir Putin built this beautiful cathedral in Russia? It's

00:34:36.800 gorgeous, beautiful, beautiful art, architecture. It wasn't merely aping the past. It was, it was

00:34:42.000 taking the best of the past and kind of adding some modern elements. It's a beautiful orthodox

00:34:45.880 cathedral. And then you look at what the Western secularists are doing and they want to turn

00:34:50.120 Notre Dame into some fruity Disneyland. Maybe I, all I'm saying is maybe we should consider to some

00:34:57.480 degree colluding with the Russians. Maybe that's not, not the worst thing in the world because 0.91

00:35:02.340 whatever strategy we're pursuing now is not working. And speaking of bad strategies, there's a story

00:35:08.200 out of Oregon, a group of Oregon high school and middle school students. These young girls

00:35:13.800 decided that they were going to protest sexualization by taking off their clothes at school and just

00:35:21.900 wearing their bras. This is a real story. It's not, not the onion. It's not the Babylon Bee.

00:35:30.180 At Southridge High School in Beaverton School District, students came to school in lace bras that 0.97

00:35:36.480 revealed everything, did not leave very much to the imagination. Lingerie bottoms, according to one

00:35:41.760 parent. And they did this. They wrote actually some protest slogans on their bodies and some of their

00:35:47.640 clothing that, that said rape culture or educate your boys or my body or my clothing choice. My body,

00:35:55.120 my clothing choice. I don't know what young man at this high school came up with this idea,

00:36:02.600 but he is a genius. He is a devilish, clever man to convince the women that they were going to 0.97

00:36:08.940 protest sexualization by taking all their clothes off and parading around for the boys. That's,

00:36:16.240 that is like protesting obesity by eating a bunch of donuts. That is like protesting lung disease by just

00:36:25.480 slurping up cigarettes, not just chain smoking, non-stop. But this, there is a kind of logic to

00:36:34.700 it. Just like there's a kind of logic to defund the police and abolish prisons. If you think America's

00:36:40.900 hopelessly unjust, then obviously you got to dismantle the system of laws. Well, it's the same

00:36:44.680 thing here. This is the logical consequence of this liberal conception of, of the individual being

00:36:52.180 able to do whatever the individual wants based purely on the individual's will. If I want to be

00:36:58.540 a woman, then I really am a woman and my will will transform reality. If I want to pursue whatever

00:37:05.800 desire I want, then I can do that. And you have no right to stop me from doing that. Well, this is the

00:37:12.300 logical conclusion of that. The girls are saying, I don't want boys to look on me with lust. Okay. And I

00:37:20.860 don't, I don't want to have to watch where I walk at night. I don't, I don't want to have to worry

00:37:25.020 about walking down a dark alley, wearing a mini skirt in the middle of the night in the bad section

00:37:29.220 of town. I shouldn't have to worry about that. I'm the victim. Stop victim blaming me. Just teach boys

00:37:34.280 not to rape. Just teach boys not to look lustfully on women. Well, sure. Yeah. There are laws against

00:37:41.640 rape, right there. Of course, that's good. We like that. The law is an instructor. The law is, 1.00

00:37:46.220 but you will never, never stop boys from getting a thrill out of seeing naked ladies. It just can't

00:37:55.840 happen. No matter how much you desire that, no matter how intransigent you are and obstinate you

00:38:04.440 are about your rights and your will, you will never convince boys not to think that naked ladies are 1.00

00:38:10.320 cute and hot. You will, it can't happen. Well, just teach boys not, no, you're, what you are doing

00:38:16.680 is denying reality and making the problem worse. If you are protesting sexualization by prancing around

00:38:24.920 in your bras, you are not, it just won't help. You're making, when we deny reality, we make problems

00:38:32.160 worse. Though you do wonder with these high school sort of protests, how much of it is just,

00:38:40.240 you know, the more things change, the more things remain the same. How much of this is just the

00:38:45.080 girls putting on a show for the boys and how much of this is the boys, you know, trying to flirt with

00:38:49.620 the girls. I don't, you know, you, you wonder these things, whatever it is, it's not an effective

00:38:53.400 political protest. And whatever, whatever dudes, whatever creepy dudes convince the girls to do 0.88

00:39:01.240 this, stop it. That's not, that's not nice to do. Speaking of creepy dudes, I've read, I just read the

00:39:06.500 creepiest opinion column I have ever read in my whole life. And I read a lot of op-eds. Headline,

00:39:13.800 men like me benefit from safe abortion access. This is by Kavon Shroff. He is a senior advisor to the

00:39:26.940 Institute for Education, which is some DC NGO. He's got degrees, I think from pretty fancy schools,

00:39:35.760 Kavon Shroff. And he says that he, a man who has promiscuous sex with women that he doesn't care

00:39:42.480 very much about and doesn't want to be with. He benefits from abortion. Quote, men like me

00:39:47.720 have long been the direct beneficiaries of safe abortion access. Most of the women I've had sex 0.53

00:39:52.600 with were also students like me, also progressive and also not at a point in their lives where they

00:39:57.000 were looking or ready to have children. I try to share responsibility for birth control. And if a

00:40:02.680 woman tells me she's on it, I also trust that. Oh, he's, isn't he? He's so progressive. Believe all

00:40:06.720 women, right? If she got pregnant, however, though entirely her decision, I assume we would both want the 0.97

00:40:12.400 same thing in abortion. In longer term relationships, we've had explicit discussions about this. So

00:40:16.640 he'll sit down. If he's, if he sleeps with a woman and he, you know, maybe he doesn't really like her,

00:40:21.300 like he doesn't want to marry her or anything, but he likes her well enough to keep sleeping with her

00:40:24.420 for at least some period of time. He's going to sit her down and say, hey, hey, Missy, don't you get 0.80

00:40:28.380 any ideas in your head? If there is a product of our fake love, the love that I'm performing, even though

00:40:36.520 I don't actually feel any love for you. If there is any product, namely a new beautiful human being that is

00:40:41.840 a little bit from me and a little bit from you, we're going to kill that thing, right? And we're,

00:40:46.380 and if not, I refuse to keep having casual sex with you for some undetermined amount of time.

00:40:53.040 He says, what if I got a woman pregnant? What if she didn't want to continue the pregnancy, 0.87

00:40:57.600 but could not get an abortion? Would we try to stay together even if it wasn't a fit? Hey,

00:41:03.060 Buster, pretty sure it was a fit. Okay. I'm pretty sure that's kind of the issue in the first place,

00:41:07.620 right? But it wasn't, but it's not a fit. It's a fit physically, but it's not, I don't actually like

00:41:11.980 her soul or her spirit or her mind. I don't like, it's not a fit. Would we stay together?

00:41:17.300 How would I provide for the child? Would I have to get a job? Oh, I don't want to get a job.

00:41:22.440 What kind of custody or visitation rights would I get if we weren't together? Oh God, that'd be,

00:41:27.320 would I want that? Would I have to, I'd have to see the kid and work and then pay for the kid?

00:41:32.140 Would adoption really be a consideration as Justice Amy Coney Barrett recently glibly suggested?

00:41:40.720 I love that this, this guy is accusing someone else of being glib. This guy who thinks it's

00:41:48.640 unjust and insane not to let him kill his children with all the women that he's using. 0.99

00:41:54.020 He's suggesting that a Supreme Court justice with adopted children is being glib about adoption.

00:41:59.080 If so, would the child face an abusive welfare system? I'm going to pause there. No, the child

00:42:04.020 wouldn't because for every infant put up for adoption in the United States, for every newborn

00:42:07.780 baby, there are an estimated 36 couples trying to adopt that baby. There was no, the children who

00:42:13.320 end up in the foster care system or the government system are, they're obviously, that's a terrible

00:42:19.880 system. We should reform it as best we can, but it's not little babies being put up for, 0.71

00:42:24.400 for those systems. It's older kids being taken out of bad homes and those are harder to adopt.

00:42:29.460 In terms of the little babies, there is no shortage of adoptive parents. The questions and worries

00:42:36.500 abound. So I read this, I read this creepy column by creepy Cabin Shroff and I see just a lot of red 1.00

00:42:45.740 flags. Not for me, what do I care? I don't have any intention of sleeping with Mr. Shroff.

00:42:50.320 But for all these other women, if, if it's him or if it's some other dude who's really,

00:42:57.260 really into abortion, run, run for your life, lady. Let there be a lady shaped hole in the wall 1.00

00:43:04.620 where you run away from this guy. What do you get out of this? The one thing you could say you get

00:43:11.720 out of this is some pleasure from sex. But does anyone, if we're all being really,

00:43:18.600 really honest about reality and we're not buying into crazy left-wing ideologies,

00:43:22.560 does anyone really believe that women get the same sort of pleasure from sex that men do?

00:43:28.880 I, I don't really buy that. I don't, and I don't think women, if they're being honest with 1.00

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00:44:17.860 chicks. I think all of feminism is basically just a trick that dudes played on chicks. 1.00

00:44:24.420 Right, oh yeah, you know what would be really, you know what would be a really effective political

00:44:27.700 protest if you took all your clothes off and danced around in front of me? That would 1.00

00:44:30.940 be really, that would be totally, free the nipple. Remember that movement? There was the 0.84

00:44:34.380 free the nipple movement to try to have more obscene imagery on social media. Oh yeah, that 1.00

00:44:39.300 would be empowering if you got naked and jiggled in front of me. Yeah, that would be really empowering.

00:44:43.800 And you know what else would be really empowering? If you slept with me without asking anything of me

00:44:48.240 whatsoever and not requiring me to be accountable or responsible to you at all. That would be,

00:44:52.580 you would be so, man, that'd make you so strong. So we're doing that? That's cool. That's good.

00:44:58.640 That works? No. What do women get out of that? What do women get out of creepy dudes like Cave 0.99

00:45:03.620 and Shroff? Nothing. You get nothing. You just get used. And then he's going to move on. And if he

00:45:09.000 does knock you up, he's going to make you kill that kid, or he's going to really put a lot of 0.86

00:45:12.760 pressure on you to kill your kid. And then he's going to leave you. And then there's going to be

00:45:15.720 another Cave and Shroff who comes along and does the same thing. And then you're going to do that.

00:45:20.180 And probably you're going to be in, you're in some liberal social circles and you're going to be in some

00:45:23.500 major metropolitan area. And like a hundred guys are going to do that. And then guys aren't going

00:45:27.760 to like you anymore because they're going to go for some younger girl that they convinced to dance

00:45:30.840 around naked for him. And you are going to be left high and dry, lady. Don't do it. Don't fall for 1.00

00:45:37.480 these guys. Goodness gracious. I'm on a mission of mercy here. Come on. What are you doing? Speaking

00:45:43.260 of abortion, who gets abortions? Who gets abortions? Asks the New York Times. It's a big piece. This is a big

00:45:51.280 do not overturn Roe versus Wade activist piece in the New York Times. They say the typical patient,

00:45:58.360 here we go, typical patient is already a mother, is in her late twenties, attended some college,

00:46:04.800 but doesn't have a degree, has a low income, has a low income. I'm going to underline that one.

00:46:10.140 Low income. Is unmarried. Is in her first six weeks of pregnancy. Is having her first abortion. Lives 0.95

00:46:16.920 in a blue state. That's the, and so come on. Even you pro-lifers need to admit we need abortion, 0.99

00:46:25.360 right? We need abortion because abortion mostly just kills poor people. Look, they're poor. She's 1.00

00:46:33.440 poor. You want, you want more poor babies? And they're going to be all, you know, they're going 0.98

00:46:38.200 to be all like wanting your money and they're going to be all like, you know, poor and it's going to be

00:46:43.000 icky and you're gonna have to walk by them on the street and, and she's unmarried. So you might 0.95

00:46:47.740 need to pay more in taxes or really, I don't know. Usually the welfare systems, the foster care

00:46:52.900 system is so terrible and the government run childcare systems are so terrible. Maybe you'd

00:46:57.780 have to, you'd have to give more to charity. Oh, that's no good. And look, she's not, she doesn't 0.77

00:47:03.580 even have a college degree. She's not even educated in the way that the liberal establishment wants her 1.00

00:47:07.860 to be. So she's, what, what the New York Times is saying is that the women who get abortions 1.00

00:47:12.200 are poor and dumb and we don't want them to have kids, right? That's what's underlying all of this. 0.99

00:47:25.580 Pretty, pretty ghastly take. I'm going to go out there. I'm going to, and again, this is going to

00:47:30.260 be kind of wacky and crazy and out of left field. I don't think that we should kill all the poor people.

00:47:35.120 I don't think that we should kill all the people who are below a certain IQ or a certain level of

00:47:40.640 educational attainment, especially the, especially the latter. Good grief. As, as though, as though a

00:47:46.520 college degree implied really much of anything these days with the collapse of our educational

00:47:53.260 system. But I don't think we should kill dumb people either. And I don't think we should kill

00:47:57.340 people based on their race. And I don't think we should kill people based on their geography. And I

00:48:02.280 just don't, I just don't think we should kill innocent people. But this is how they think.

00:48:08.340 This, this is how they think, which is ghastly. And this is how they think that we think,

00:48:13.280 which is pretty, pretty sad as well. Just a little final point on this. Dr. Oz, Dr. Oz is TV host.

00:48:22.220 He's running for Senate as a Republican in Pennsylvania now. But there was a video that came out of him

00:48:29.120 making fun of the pro-life movement and pro-life people. This was some time ago. And so now he's

00:48:34.260 being grilled about this on Fox News. He refuses to really give an answer on when he thinks life

00:48:40.820 begins. What is your position as both a doctor and a senatorial candidate on when life begins?

00:48:47.400 When should we draw the line when abortion is, is legal?

00:48:51.940 As a doctor, I appreciate the sanctity of life. And for that reason, I'm strongly pro-life with the

00:48:59.060 three exceptions I've mentioned. That's how I would vote. And when does that life begin?

00:49:06.140 You know, again, if I'm pro-life, then it's a decision that comes back to the sanctity of when

00:49:10.500 you think life does begin. And I believe it begins when you're in the mother's womb. 0.94

00:49:15.440 When you're in the mother's womb, but that, that carries you all the way up to nine months of 0.89

00:49:18.540 pregnancy. No, of course not. Life's already started when you're in your mother's womb. 1.00

00:49:23.640 But it's a rat hole to get trapped in the different ways of talking about it. We need as a nation to

00:49:28.860 make sure the constitution is appropriately followed and people like me, and you may be in the same camp

00:49:33.880 who are pro-life, have our feelings respected. And this is something that should not be taken away

00:49:38.200 from us by judiciary legislating from the bench. Yeah. But that's also something that's going to have

00:49:43.340 to be legislated. And that answer is going to have to be given specifically.

00:49:46.200 Good on this guy. This interviewer is doing a great job here. That is some weak sauce

00:49:51.260 from Dr. Oz. How hard is it to say conception? How hard is it to say? This is,

00:49:57.200 this is the simplest answer. This is the most tried and true answer. This is the

00:50:02.520 true by definition answer. When does life begin? It begins at conception, at the conception of life.

00:50:07.740 It begins, you know, when does life begin? It begins, you know, when we decide, when we need to

00:50:12.860 have people make their decision about, and it comes to the question of when does life begin?

00:50:16.820 Yeah, buddy, that's what I'm asking you. What's it, when does it begin? It begins,

00:50:19.980 and that's a clever answer. He says, it begins when you're in the mother's womb.

00:50:24.140 Well, yeah, we all, we all agree with that. Even the most radical pro-abortion people,

00:50:30.240 I guess with maybe a couple of exceptions, believe that life begins, you know, at least by the day

00:50:34.720 before birth when you're in the mother's womb. So when though, when, when does it be, well, you know,

00:50:40.020 and it, uh, it's already begun at, you know, okay, well, so say, so just say it, say, but he can't

00:50:46.820 say it. Even John McCain would say it. Remember John McCain, who is, you know, a little on the

00:50:52.180 squishier side when it comes to conservatism. John McCain said it during his presidential race. He said,

00:50:57.360 I believe life begins at conception. Why is it so hard for Dr. Oz? Maybe because Dr. Oz

00:51:01.840 doesn't really believe it. We are in a moment right now where we are moving the Overton window,

00:51:08.440 where we are aggressive, where conservatives are actually making substantial wins.

00:51:13.300 We're stopping woke. We're doing the stop woke act. We're making big wins. Don't settle for

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The Michael Knowles Show - December 16, 2021

Ep. 907 - Florida Man Takes On The Woke Enemy

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