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00:00:30.440 So do you remember those two FBI agents

00:00:32.820 who had worked on the Mueller investigation

00:00:34.720 and openly talked about an insurance policy

00:00:38.140 to undo the election in case Trump won?

00:00:40.820 So it turns out the FBI lost all of their text messages

00:00:44.640 from December 2016

00:00:46.140 all the way up until precisely the day

00:00:48.500 before the Mueller investigation began.

00:00:50.960 Whoops.

00:00:51.660 We'll analyze the seemingly endless,

00:00:54.220 innocent little old coincidences

00:00:55.640 and why the government needs to find the texts

00:00:58.260 or fire Mueller.

00:00:59.640 Then, conservative leaders Steve Lonegan

00:01:01.540 and Vincent Buta

00:01:03.060 join the panel of deplorables

00:01:04.420 to discuss whether there's any hope

00:01:06.100 for a DACA deal,

00:01:07.300 what the Turpin House of Horrors

00:01:08.980 means for homeschooling,

00:01:10.320 and the new CNN poll

00:01:11.840 that shows Biden, Bernie, and Oprah

00:01:14.060 all leading Trump in 2020.

00:01:16.560 I wonder if that poll is like

00:01:17.920 all the other CNN polls

00:01:19.060 that had Hillary crushing Trump in 2016.

00:01:21.600 We'll find out.

00:01:22.240 I'm Michael Knowles.

00:01:22.880 This is The Michael Knowles Show.

00:01:23.760 Before we get started today,

00:01:32.860 just a shameless personal plug.

00:01:34.480 The Oscar nominations are out.

00:01:36.000 I'm not going to talk about them

00:01:37.200 because no one has seen any of the movies

00:01:39.300 that were nominated.

00:01:40.400 I've missed about half of them,

00:01:41.880 and I live in Hollywood

00:01:42.920 and am in this industry.

00:01:44.800 So I'm not going to talk about that.

00:01:46.780 What I will talk about, though,

00:01:48.080 is good culture, actual culture,

00:01:50.640 not these ridiculous movies

00:01:51.980 that no one goes and sees

00:01:53.100 and then Hollywood gives each other

00:01:54.860 golden statues for it.

00:01:56.020 I mean, actual culture

00:01:57.720 that Hollywood can't stop

00:01:59.440 and gatekeepers can't stop.

00:02:00.880 So Andrew Klavan and I

00:02:01.740 have just completed

00:02:02.840 Another Kingdom,

00:02:04.480 which is a narrative podcast.

00:02:06.720 It's fairly innovative.

00:02:07.580 I don't think anything like it

00:02:08.760 has ever come out on the right,

00:02:10.840 if at all,

00:02:11.560 if on either side

00:02:12.240 of the philosophical spectrum.

00:02:14.960 And it's a great story

00:02:16.640 about a 30-year-old Hollywood schlub

00:02:19.000 who can't get a job in Hollywood.

00:02:21.080 I'm not sure why

00:02:21.900 he would ever cast me.

00:02:22.820 I have no idea.

00:02:23.940 And he walks through a portal

00:02:25.100 into another kingdom,

00:02:26.220 and he's in another dimension

00:02:27.920 with damsels and ogres

00:02:29.980 and a bloody dagger

00:02:30.980 and a dead woman at his feet.

00:02:33.080 I know it sounds like Hollywood,

00:02:34.740 but that's actually

00:02:35.480 The Other Kingdom.

00:02:36.700 So this has been

00:02:38.080 a 13-part series.

00:02:39.580 It's been a lot of fun.

00:02:40.300 I'm performing all of the roles.

00:02:41.520 Andrew Klavan wrote it.

00:02:42.560 It's called Another Kingdom.

00:02:43.980 Please go check it out.

00:02:45.020 Right now you can binge

00:02:45.880 the whole thing.

00:02:46.740 So if you want to just set it on,

00:02:48.220 and you're on a long car ride,

00:02:49.500 you just can play them

00:02:50.300 right in a row,

00:02:51.080 feel free to do that.

00:02:51.880 We really appreciate it.

00:02:52.700 Leave us a five-star review

00:02:53.820 that helps us out.

00:02:55.380 A lot of Hollywood production houses

00:02:57.060 and studios have called us about it.

00:02:59.900 And then the night before the meeting,

00:03:01.960 they Google Andrew Klavan,

00:03:03.240 and then the meeting is terrible.

00:03:04.860 So we want to force it

00:03:05.820 down their throats

00:03:06.360 and put a stick in their eye.

00:03:07.860 So please go do it.

00:03:08.740 It's Another Kingdom.

00:03:09.960 Andrew Klavan's Another Kingdom.

00:03:11.140 You can get it anywhere.

00:03:12.640 Fine narrative podcasts

00:03:14.740 by conservatives

00:03:15.640 in bloody, daggered clothing.

00:03:17.960 Anywhere you can download those,

00:03:19.120 that's where you get it.

00:03:19.840 Okay, let's get into some politics.

00:03:21.820 It sure looks like the fix was in

00:03:23.540 in 2016.

00:03:25.560 New documents show a lot of collusion

00:03:27.380 in the 2016 presidential campaign.

00:03:29.880 Not collusion with Trump

00:03:31.100 and Vladimir or Boris or Natasha,

00:03:33.340 but between Democrats

00:03:34.420 and Barack Obama's

00:03:35.560 corrupt administrative agencies.

00:03:37.480 These texts and documents

00:03:38.780 and deleted texts

00:03:39.720 and classified documents

00:03:40.920 are all fairly confusing.

00:03:42.640 So let's go through it carefully

00:03:43.740 and get a broad view

00:03:44.980 because this is what

00:03:45.800 they're counting on.

00:03:46.720 Democrats are counting

00:03:47.640 on this issue

00:03:48.440 being so confusing,

00:03:49.860 so opaque,

00:03:50.760 the timeline is so unclear,

00:03:52.400 it was so long ago,

00:03:54.060 that Americans will just

00:03:55.000 throw up their hands

00:03:55.780 and ignore what seems

00:03:57.540 from every indication

00:03:58.840 to be rank corruption.

00:04:01.020 This all begins

00:04:01.880 with two FBI agents,

00:04:03.360 Peter Strzok,

00:04:05.020 and that name, by the way,

00:04:05.900 is spelled Strzokokok,

00:04:07.380 or something.

00:04:07.760 It's got like 15 vowels

00:04:09.720 and, or 15 consonants

00:04:11.760 in it rather,

00:04:12.500 Peter Strzokok,

00:04:13.820 and Lisa Page.

00:04:14.960 Strzok helped lead

00:04:16.200 the FBI's investigation

00:04:17.280 into Hillary Clinton's

00:04:18.380 private email server

00:04:19.320 and he was involved

00:04:20.260 in opening the investigation

00:04:21.380 into Russian meddling

00:04:22.780 in the 2016 presidential election.

00:04:25.140 He was reassigned

00:04:26.000 off of Mueller's team

00:04:27.060 to HR duty

00:04:28.020 when text messages

00:04:29.640 turned up

00:04:30.200 demonstrating him

00:04:31.260 clearly colluding

00:04:32.040 with other FBI officials

00:04:33.420 to sabotage Trump's campaign

00:04:35.660 from within the government.

00:04:36.760 Strzokok was the number two

00:04:38.480 official in counterintelligence

00:04:39.960 and the leading Russia expert.

00:04:42.380 He was sleeping

00:04:43.000 with another FBI agent,

00:04:44.460 Lisa Page,

00:04:45.220 because it's Washington, D.C.,

00:04:46.580 so of course he was sleeping

00:04:47.580 with this other FBI agent.

00:04:48.940 His girlfriend

00:04:49.480 and co-conspirator,

00:04:50.480 Lisa Page,

00:04:51.160 was also on the Mueller team

00:04:52.360 before returning to the FBI,

00:04:54.000 but she had finished

00:04:54.860 her assignment already

00:04:55.760 before all of these texts

00:04:56.800 came out,

00:04:57.400 so she didn't have

00:04:58.140 the opportunity to be fired.

00:04:59.760 The day after President Trump

00:05:01.120 was elected president,

00:05:02.260 Strzok and Page

00:05:03.280 texted about a secret society

00:05:05.920 within the Department of Justice

00:05:07.560 and the FBI

00:05:08.320 working against Trump.

00:05:09.960 Working Against

00:05:10.940 the Democratically Elected President.

00:05:12.840 Those are the exact words.

00:05:13.720 Secret society.

00:05:14.820 Here's House Oversight Chairman

00:05:15.960 Trey Gowdy

00:05:16.460 on the recent findings.

00:05:17.960 We need to know

00:05:18.860 a couple of things.

00:05:19.620 Number one,

00:05:19.980 we need to know

00:05:20.580 how the world's

00:05:21.260 premier law enforcement agency

00:05:22.660 managed to lose

00:05:23.700 five months' worth of texts.

00:05:25.180 And what's also troubling

00:05:26.440 is in the texts we do have,

00:05:28.120 they're discussing

00:05:28.840 how to avoid texts

00:05:30.120 being captured and secured.

00:05:32.320 So what's missing

00:05:33.920 is important,

00:05:35.020 but also what's there

00:05:36.280 is important.

00:05:36.920 It is manifest bias,

00:05:38.860 not just against Trump,

00:05:40.420 but against his kids,

00:05:41.980 against his business interests.

00:05:43.480 There's a text

00:05:44.100 where they hope

00:05:44.680 the Trump Hotel fails.

00:05:46.920 That is a level of bias

00:05:48.320 that you rarely see

00:05:49.540 and you never see

00:05:50.240 from law enforcement officers.

00:05:52.020 What's also troubling to me

00:05:53.600 is this text

00:05:54.580 that Johnny Radcliffe

00:05:55.380 found last night

00:05:56.360 about this secret society.

00:05:58.920 Now, I have no clue

00:05:59.940 what that means

00:06:00.680 because that was not

00:06:01.420 the phraseology I used,

00:06:03.240 but it's the day

00:06:04.040 after the election

00:06:05.000 and it's the same two people

00:06:06.960 that we're discussing

00:06:08.180 a little bit later

00:06:09.940 in the text

00:06:10.780 the damage they had done

00:06:12.320 with the Clinton investigation

00:06:13.680 and how they could,

00:06:15.480 quote, fix it

00:06:16.440 and make it right.

00:06:18.360 That is a level of bias

00:06:19.980 that is stunning

00:06:21.500 among the law enforcement officers.

00:06:23.100 Congressman Rod...

00:06:24.000 So there may have been

00:06:24.900 a secret society

00:06:26.180 within the DOJ and FBI

00:06:27.940 working against Trump,

00:06:29.480 including Page and Strzok.

00:06:31.040 You'll remember

00:06:32.060 the first text exchange

00:06:33.520 that set off

00:06:34.140 all of these questions

00:06:35.000 about whether the FBI

00:06:36.340 and the DOJ

00:06:37.060 were biased against Trump

00:06:38.340 from the beginning.

00:06:39.120 If this entire investigation

00:06:40.840 into Trump

00:06:41.620 was just a ruse

00:06:42.520 to route him out of office.

00:06:43.720 If it was funded

00:06:44.380 by Hillary Clinton

00:06:45.260 and the Democrat Party.

00:06:46.700 The first text,

00:06:47.840 which came out in December,

00:06:49.340 was sent in August 2016

00:06:51.580 in the final months

00:06:52.940 of the 2016 presidential election.

00:06:55.020 Strzok wrote to Page,

00:06:56.080 quote,

00:06:57.240 I want to believe

00:06:58.140 the path you threw out

00:06:59.200 for consideration

00:07:00.000 that there's no way

00:07:01.320 he gets elected.

00:07:02.280 But I'm afraid

00:07:02.960 we can't take that risk.

00:07:05.020 It's like an insurance policy

00:07:06.580 in the unlikely event

00:07:08.220 you die before you're 40.

00:07:10.180 It's like an insurance policy.

00:07:11.680 What is it?

00:07:13.080 Is it referring

00:07:14.220 to the investigation

00:07:15.200 and to Russian interference?

00:07:16.700 Is it referring

00:07:18.060 to the Obama administration's

00:07:19.580 pretext for spying

00:07:21.120 on the Trump campaign,

00:07:22.240 which we know he did?

00:07:23.860 What is it?

00:07:24.640 What is the insurance policy?

00:07:25.960 By the way,

00:07:26.900 Andy here refers

00:07:28.080 to Deputy FBI Director

00:07:29.460 Andy McCade.

00:07:30.600 So it appears

00:07:31.780 whatever political dealings

00:07:33.280 in government

00:07:33.780 they're talking about

00:07:34.820 go all the way up

00:07:35.980 to the uppermost echelons

00:07:37.580 of the FBI.

00:07:39.000 Trump himself

00:07:39.680 called this exchange

00:07:40.440 treason,

00:07:41.100 and he's right.

00:07:41.960 This is an attempt

00:07:43.060 of the bureaucracy

00:07:43.800 to subvert

00:07:44.900 our democratic republic.

00:07:46.360 I had the privilege

00:07:47.040 of speaking to

00:07:47.840 Antonin Scalia

00:07:48.580 about the federal bureaucracy

00:07:50.620 before he died.

00:07:51.580 I said,

00:07:51.800 what's the greatest threat

00:07:52.560 to freedom in America,

00:07:54.220 to the republic?

00:07:54.740 He said the unaccountable

00:07:56.680 executive agencies,

00:07:57.920 the federal bureaucracies,

00:07:58.920 the greatest threat

00:07:59.440 to liberty.

00:08:00.100 We might be seeing

00:08:00.680 that play out.

00:08:01.680 Strzok's flags insist

00:08:03.620 that the insurance policy

00:08:04.960 reference was meant

00:08:06.100 to convey that the FBI

00:08:07.860 needed to thoroughly

00:08:08.940 and lawfully investigate

00:08:10.520 any improper interference

00:08:12.420 in the election.

00:08:13.160 You know,

00:08:14.060 just do our job very well.

00:08:16.000 Give me a break.

00:08:16.980 The implication then,

00:08:18.360 if that's the case,

00:08:19.700 the implication is that

00:08:20.620 the FBI typically

00:08:21.500 doesn't do its job.

00:08:22.700 Is that what Strzok

00:08:23.300 is saying?

00:08:23.720 The FBI doesn't normally

00:08:25.080 do its job,

00:08:26.080 so to get the FBI

00:08:26.980 to do its job

00:08:27.860 would be an insurance policy

00:08:29.400 in the unthinking event

00:08:31.060 that the,

00:08:32.080 in the unthinkable event,

00:08:33.260 rather,

00:08:33.560 that the American people

00:08:34.660 elect the president

00:08:35.940 of their choice?

00:08:37.360 So even if Strzok's account

00:08:38.860 were credible,

00:08:39.660 and it's not,

00:08:40.480 the implication would be

00:08:41.580 that the FBI

00:08:42.160 is so hopelessly partisan

00:08:43.420 and corrupt

00:08:44.100 that the FBI's following the law

00:08:45.820 and doing its job

00:08:46.580 would be out of the ordinary.

00:08:47.720 But then again,

00:08:48.780 Strzok's account

00:08:49.340 is not credible.

00:08:50.520 Strzok shot back

00:08:51.700 through his attorney

00:08:52.400 who said,

00:08:52.920 quote,

00:08:53.720 it is beyond reckless

00:08:54.840 for the president

00:08:55.620 of the United States

00:08:56.420 to accuse Pete Strzok,

00:08:57.860 a man who has devoted

00:08:59.060 his entire adult life

00:09:00.620 to defending this country

00:09:02.200 of treason.

00:09:03.180 Can we get Ben in

00:09:03.880 to play the violin

00:09:04.760 for this absurd,

00:09:06.700 corrupt hack?

00:09:07.700 It should surprise no one

00:09:09.180 that the president

00:09:10.380 has both the facts

00:09:11.520 and the law wrong.

00:09:12.400 Is that right,

00:09:12.900 Mr. Strzok?

00:09:13.500 Or rather,

00:09:14.440 Mr. Strzok's lawyer,

00:09:15.720 because Mr. Strzok

00:09:16.640 won't say anything on record

00:09:17.800 because he was caught red-handed

00:09:19.180 conspiring with the Democrats

00:09:22.200 to overturn an American

00:09:23.280 presidential election.

00:09:24.960 Strzok, by the way,

00:09:25.900 has retained all-star lawyer

00:09:27.140 David Boise.

00:09:28.820 That's Harvey Weinstein's lawyer.

00:09:30.740 He's one of the most

00:09:31.180 expensive lawyers in D.C.

00:09:32.960 Interesting that he would be able

00:09:34.520 to retain someone

00:09:35.300 so expensive

00:09:36.020 on an FBI salary.

00:09:37.560 Because, you know,

00:09:37.940 he gave his whole life

00:09:38.900 just to serve his country.

00:09:40.280 He's just a faithful

00:09:41.180 public servant, isn't he?

00:09:42.220 But somehow he can afford

00:09:43.240 the most expensive lawyer

00:09:44.180 in the country

00:09:44.740 to defend him

00:09:45.640 against these charges

00:09:47.060 of corruption,

00:09:48.080 gross corruption,

00:09:49.320 subverting

00:09:49.800 a Democratic election.

00:09:51.940 So this guy,

00:09:53.020 the lawyer,

00:09:53.860 is worth pointing out.

00:09:55.500 He is from the same firm

00:09:56.400 as Karen Dunn,

00:09:57.520 who was slated

00:09:58.100 to become Hillary's

00:09:58.940 White House counsel

00:09:59.760 had she defeated

00:10:00.720 Donald Trump.

00:10:01.320 I just want to point that out.

00:10:02.260 I'm not making any allegations.

00:10:04.060 Just pointing out

00:10:05.040 that strange coincidence.

00:10:06.200 So that's what's reckless.

00:10:08.120 Now we have an investigation

00:10:09.600 apparently triggered

00:10:10.480 by a senior FBI official

00:10:11.940 who is desperately

00:10:12.980 opposed to Trump

00:10:13.980 who refers in a text

00:10:15.400 to his colleague

00:10:16.480 and lover,

00:10:17.740 same colleague slash lover,

00:10:19.320 another senior FBI official,

00:10:20.840 to an insurance policy,

00:10:22.460 a fail safe,

00:10:23.320 to take Trump out

00:10:24.400 in the event

00:10:25.000 the American people

00:10:25.920 actually elect him.

00:10:27.040 An insurance policy

00:10:28.080 that was apparently

00:10:28.960 cooked up in the office

00:10:30.080 of the deputy director

00:10:31.220 of the FBI.

00:10:32.800 Those privately

00:10:33.740 now uncovered text exchanges

00:10:35.380 also strongly imply

00:10:36.880 that former FBI director

00:10:38.460 James Comey

00:10:39.280 was lying

00:10:40.100 when he insisted

00:10:40.880 that he had not decided

00:10:42.360 against charging Hillary Clinton

00:10:44.340 until after he interviewed her.

00:10:46.600 Here's Comey.

00:10:47.180 Did you make the decision

00:10:49.260 not to recommend

00:10:50.180 criminal charges

00:10:51.100 relating to classified information

00:10:52.700 before or after

00:10:54.340 Hillary Clinton

00:10:55.360 was interviewed

00:10:55.800 by the FBI

00:10:56.440 on July the 2nd?

00:10:57.980 After.

00:10:58.800 All I can do

00:10:59.480 is tell you again,

00:11:00.280 the decision was made

00:11:01.200 after that

00:11:02.060 because I didn't know

00:11:03.640 what was going to happen

00:11:04.240 in that interview.

00:11:05.620 Is that right, James?

00:11:06.480 That's right.

00:11:06.740 Now, you know,

00:11:07.300 someone would lie

00:11:09.480 this brazenly

00:11:10.460 while testifying

00:11:12.540 only if he thinks

00:11:14.160 there's no way

00:11:14.760 he's going to get caught.

00:11:15.780 There's no,

00:11:16.100 it's just a little,

00:11:16.640 of course I made

00:11:17.240 the decision afterward.

00:11:18.400 That's just a thing

00:11:19.140 that politicians would say.

00:11:21.080 Unfortunately,

00:11:21.700 here it looks like

00:11:22.260 he got caught.

00:11:22.980 The text suggests otherwise

00:11:25.480 other than his testimony.

00:11:27.820 When Obama's attorney general,

00:11:29.160 Loretta Lynch,

00:11:30.160 stated that she would accept

00:11:31.680 whatever recommendation

00:11:33.180 the FBI made

00:11:34.240 regarding the prosecution

00:11:35.320 of Hillary Clinton,

00:11:36.560 Page wrote,

00:11:37.320 quote,

00:11:37.460 this is a purposeful leak

00:11:39.180 following the airplane snafu.

00:11:41.680 Purposeful leak.

00:11:42.300 Of course,

00:11:42.540 we all knew it was.

00:11:43.600 And the airplane snafu

00:11:44.660 was when Bill Clinton

00:11:46.000 met privately

00:11:46.720 with Loretta Lynch

00:11:47.540 on an airplane,

00:11:48.520 presumably to pressure her

00:11:49.620 to let Hillary off the hook.

00:11:50.960 Maybe he threatened

00:11:51.580 to suicide her

00:11:52.460 if she didn't.

00:11:53.140 No, I'm kidding.

00:11:53.740 That's a joke.

00:11:54.280 Am I?

00:11:54.580 I don't know.

00:11:55.420 Now, who knows what they said?

00:11:57.560 I don't know.

00:11:57.760 I wasn't there.

00:11:58.440 But in any case,

00:11:59.140 Strzok replied,

00:11:59.960 quote,

00:12:00.540 timing looks like hell

00:12:01.700 will appear to be choreographed.

00:12:04.640 Yeah.

00:12:05.380 Yep.

00:12:05.700 It looks choreographed.

00:12:07.040 It's true.

00:12:08.100 I wonder why it looks

00:12:09.040 so choreographed.

00:12:10.280 But then Page replied,

00:12:11.360 quote,

00:12:12.320 yeah,

00:12:12.620 it's a real profile in courage

00:12:14.260 since she knows

00:12:15.660 no charges will be brought.

00:12:17.700 Since Loretta Lynch,

00:12:18.800 Obama's attorney general,

00:12:19.840 knows no charges

00:12:20.860 will be brought.

00:12:21.880 That exchange is

00:12:22.680 from July 1st.

00:12:24.040 Hmm.

00:12:25.080 Hillary Clinton

00:12:25.760 was interviewed

00:12:26.600 by the FBI

00:12:27.220 on July 2nd.

00:12:29.140 July 1st,

00:12:29.980 July 2nd.

00:12:30.420 I'm no mathematician,

00:12:31.740 but I'm pretty sure

00:12:32.500 July 1st

00:12:33.260 comes before July 2nd,

00:12:34.880 which means we have a text

00:12:35.800 from the day before

00:12:36.760 her interview asserting

00:12:39.240 that everybody,

00:12:40.220 including Loretta Lynch

00:12:41.140 and James Comey,

00:12:42.180 knew at least the day

00:12:43.480 before Hillary's interview

00:12:44.560 that they would never charge her.

00:12:47.140 So it looks like

00:12:47.980 there was collusion after all.

00:12:49.140 Not between Trump and Khrushchev

00:12:50.840 or whatever nonsense

00:12:51.700 they're alleging now,

00:12:52.580 but between Barack Obama's

00:12:53.800 corrupt administration

00:12:54.740 with its various

00:12:55.800 unaccountable bureaucratic agencies

00:12:57.580 and the Hillary Clinton campaign

00:12:59.360 for president.

00:13:00.240 In light of all of this

00:13:01.920 and calls from senior members

00:13:03.100 of both parties,

00:13:04.180 including Senate Minority Leader

00:13:06.260 Chuck Schumer,

00:13:07.380 to fire James Comey,

00:13:08.780 Trump fired James Comey.

00:13:10.620 James Comey was let go,

00:13:12.820 for which he is now

00:13:14.020 being investigated

00:13:14.740 for obstruction of justice.

00:13:17.220 Now, Trump summed this up

00:13:18.440 well to the Wall Street Journal.

00:13:19.580 He said,

00:13:20.180 of course there was

00:13:20.920 no obstruction.

00:13:21.880 There was no crime.

00:13:22.900 They make up a crime

00:13:23.800 and the crime doesn't exist

00:13:25.100 and then they say obstruction.

00:13:26.980 Everybody wanted Comey fired,

00:13:28.340 I should be given credit

00:13:29.340 for having great insight.

00:13:31.420 Absolutely right.

00:13:32.320 Also pretty funny,

00:13:33.360 but also right.

00:13:34.920 Democrat Senator Dianne Feinstein,

00:13:36.560 ranking member

00:13:37.120 of the Judiciary Committee,

00:13:38.380 has admitted they have

00:13:39.160 no evidence of collusion

00:13:40.300 between Trump and Putin

00:13:41.700 or Stalin or Brezhnev

00:13:42.820 or whatever.

00:13:43.540 All-star Democrat

00:13:44.500 Flack Van Jones

00:13:45.340 admits what?

00:13:46.580 What's going to happen

00:13:47.140 this week?

00:13:47.620 I mean,

00:13:47.800 with the whole Russia thing.

00:13:49.860 The Russia thing

00:13:50.480 is just a big nothing burger.

00:13:51.780 Really?

00:13:53.120 That's right.

00:13:53.960 That's right.

00:13:54.360 The Russia thing

00:13:55.020 is just a big nothing burger.

00:13:56.440 Even one of the most prominent

00:13:57.740 Democrat messengers

00:13:58.600 in the country

00:13:59.220 admits it's a big nothing burger.

00:14:01.200 But that's why

00:14:02.020 corrupt Democrats

00:14:02.760 and their counterparts

00:14:03.520 in the U.S. government,

00:14:04.840 bureaucrats so convinced

00:14:06.080 they can run our lives

00:14:07.400 better than we can run

00:14:08.340 them ourselves,

00:14:09.740 that they would subvert

00:14:10.860 a free and fair election.

00:14:12.100 That's why they needed

00:14:12.840 an insurance policy.

00:14:14.380 So now,

00:14:14.840 how about the cherry on top?

00:14:16.160 What's the cherry on top

00:14:17.320 of the nothing burger?

00:14:18.440 Or of the nothing burger Sunday?

00:14:19.860 I'm mixing metaphors,

00:14:20.700 aren't I?

00:14:20.980 Whatever.

00:14:21.180 The DOJ has just announced

00:14:23.060 five months worth

00:14:24.260 of text exchanges

00:14:25.260 between Strzok and Page,

00:14:27.060 upwards of 50,000 text messages

00:14:29.280 between December 14, 2016

00:14:31.480 and May 17, 2017,

00:14:34.000 the day before Mueller

00:14:35.380 was appointed special counsel.

00:14:37.200 One day before Mueller

00:14:39.040 was appointed special counsel.

00:14:41.120 Those texts have just gone missing.

00:14:43.560 First of all,

00:14:44.360 before we get into

00:14:45.120 the meat of this,

00:14:45.980 what self-respecting man

00:14:47.240 exchanges 50,000 text messages

00:14:49.060 with his girlfriend?

00:14:50.080 I text sweet little Elisa

00:14:51.620 once every 10 days at most,

00:14:53.380 and then it is only to comment

00:14:54.960 on how delicious

00:14:55.880 whatever lunch she made

00:14:57.600 for me that day is.

00:14:59.240 But then sweet little Elisa

00:15:00.340 and I aren't colluding

00:15:01.340 to undo a presidential election,

00:15:03.420 so I guess we have

00:15:04.060 a lot less to text about.

00:15:05.640 And now the texts

00:15:06.380 are all gone.

00:15:07.180 Whoops, whoops.

00:15:08.240 What are the odds?

00:15:09.080 What a coincidence

00:15:09.820 that the text messages

00:15:11.560 between two FBI agents

00:15:13.200 who openly boast

00:15:14.380 about trying to sabotage

00:15:15.480 the democratically elected president

00:15:16.940 and overturn the election,

00:15:18.400 they all just went missing

00:15:19.360 from the transition period

00:15:20.840 through the appointment

00:15:21.460 of the special counsel

00:15:22.420 whose investigation

00:15:23.540 they both worked on.

00:15:25.660 Here is how the DOJ explained it.

00:15:27.580 They said, quote,

00:15:28.860 The department wants

00:15:30.100 to bring to your attention

00:15:30.840 that the FBI's technical system

00:15:32.380 for retaining text messages

00:15:33.700 sent and received

00:15:34.700 on FBI mobile devices

00:15:36.480 failed to preserve text messages

00:15:38.860 for Mr. Strzok and Ms. Page

00:15:40.860 from December 14th

00:15:42.280 to approximately May 17th.

00:15:44.380 Oops.

00:15:45.140 Well, what can you do?

00:15:46.020 What can you do?

00:15:46.920 Sometimes, look,

00:15:47.700 sometimes a technical glitch

00:15:50.280 erases five crucial months

00:15:52.240 of evidence

00:15:52.760 central to the most important issue

00:15:54.740 being investigated

00:15:55.520 by a federal agency.

00:15:57.200 Right?

00:15:57.880 Isn't that just what happens?

00:15:59.640 The devices just didn't sync.

00:16:01.320 A new version of WhatsApp

00:16:02.440 probably just updated.

00:16:04.100 It happens.

00:16:04.900 By the way,

00:16:05.480 by the way,

00:16:06.140 none of that explains

00:16:07.160 why the texts

00:16:07.740 aren't still on the devices themselves.

00:16:09.860 So they're alleging

00:16:10.740 the messages didn't back up

00:16:11.880 to the cloud

00:16:12.460 or the federal cloud

00:16:13.320 or whatever.

00:16:13.780 Okay,

00:16:14.540 why aren't the messages

00:16:15.400 still on the devices?

00:16:16.580 Did the FBI sell the phones

00:16:17.960 on Fiverr

00:16:18.740 for 50 bucks a pop

00:16:20.080 or something like that?

00:16:21.460 The department wants

00:16:22.500 to bring to your attention

00:16:23.500 that the FBI's system

00:16:24.660 of selling old bureau devices

00:16:26.340 on Craigslist

00:16:27.020 to help pay for the Pixel 2

00:16:28.500 failed to preserve text messages

00:16:30.380 for Mr. Strzok and Ms. Page.

00:16:31.940 Got it.

00:16:32.620 By the way,

00:16:33.420 by the way,

00:16:33.900 during the time

00:16:34.560 of the supposed glitch,

00:16:35.700 a few important things happened.

00:16:37.120 This is just the glitch

00:16:37.800 when all the texts went away.

00:16:38.920 Just a few things happened

00:16:39.840 in that period.

00:16:40.440 Oh, and Mr. Strzok

00:16:43.960 might have been texting

00:16:44.760 each other about these things.

00:16:46.100 The publication

00:16:46.820 of the totally unproven

00:16:48.420 anti-Trump fusion GPS dossier

00:16:50.380 funded by Hillary Clinton

00:16:51.780 and the DNC

00:16:52.680 that may have been used

00:16:54.160 as pretext

00:16:54.720 to kick off

00:16:55.260 the whole investigation

00:16:56.020 of Trump and Russia

00:16:56.860 that happened.

00:16:58.500 You know,

00:16:59.100 Democrats possibly

00:16:59.860 bankrolling a government

00:17:00.820 witch hunt

00:17:01.240 of their political opponents.

00:17:02.540 On January 20th,

00:17:03.460 also in that time frame,

00:17:04.580 Trump was sworn into office.

00:17:06.240 On January 24th,

00:17:07.480 Strzok interviewed

00:17:08.240 former Trump advisor

00:17:09.220 Michael Flynn

00:17:09.940 on March 2nd,

00:17:11.120 Jeff Sessions

00:17:11.620 recused himself

00:17:12.580 from any investigations

00:17:13.880 involving the campaign

00:17:14.800 in Russia.

00:17:15.680 On March 4th,

00:17:16.460 Trump predicted

00:17:17.220 correctly, it turns out,

00:17:19.200 that Barack Obama

00:17:20.120 used the government

00:17:20.740 to spy on his campaign.

00:17:22.160 On May 9th,

00:17:23.040 Trump fired James Comey

00:17:24.280 at the encouragement

00:17:25.700 of virtually every politician

00:17:27.380 in the U.S.

00:17:27.980 on both sides of the aisle.

00:17:29.860 And on May 17th,

00:17:31.440 Deputy Attorney General

00:17:32.380 Rod Rosenstein

00:17:33.180 appointed Robert Mueller

00:17:34.300 special counsel

00:17:35.440 to investigate Trump.

00:17:37.220 The FBI

00:17:37.840 only lost text messages

00:17:39.480 from those months.

00:17:41.980 Fox News asked the FBI

00:17:43.080 on Monday

00:17:43.540 whether they had failed

00:17:44.740 to preserve

00:17:45.560 text message records

00:17:46.820 on similar devices

00:17:48.260 belonging to other officials

00:17:49.600 during that time period

00:17:50.540 because the FBI

00:17:51.820 had blamed

00:17:52.320 the Samsung Galaxy 5

00:17:54.440 for failing to sync.

00:17:56.040 And I will tell you something.

00:17:57.020 As the former owner

00:17:57.780 of a Samsung Galaxy 5 phone,

00:18:00.260 that is the only credible claim

00:18:01.740 that the FBI has made

00:18:02.740 during this entire ordeal.

00:18:04.260 That phone is just

00:18:05.180 a piece of trash.

00:18:06.440 Half the time,

00:18:07.080 it doesn't make phone calls.

00:18:08.800 The GPS feature

00:18:09.820 when you're driving,

00:18:10.840 it'll just tell you

00:18:11.760 what you should have done.

00:18:13.100 So you're like two blocks

00:18:14.080 after you missed the turn

00:18:14.960 and says you should have turned.

00:18:15.860 Anyway,

00:18:16.440 Fox News asked

00:18:17.420 if the FBI

00:18:17.960 had lost text messages

00:18:19.700 from similar devices

00:18:21.080 belonging to other agents

00:18:22.200 at that time.

00:18:23.420 And wouldn't you know

00:18:24.240 the FBI had no comment

00:18:25.600 on the matter?

00:18:27.060 So there goes that excuse.

00:18:28.240 One has to assume

00:18:29.120 that if the FBI

00:18:30.020 had lost other text messages

00:18:31.440 from similar devices

00:18:32.420 during that time,

00:18:33.420 they would have taken out

00:18:34.480 a front page ad

00:18:35.680 in the New York Times

00:18:36.580 to try to slow down

00:18:37.800 the avalanche

00:18:38.500 of corruption allegations.

00:18:39.700 But nope,

00:18:40.260 no comment.

00:18:41.480 So here's the deal.

00:18:42.800 I haven't been

00:18:43.480 one of the Republicans

00:18:44.360 or conservatives

00:18:45.040 calling on Trump

00:18:45.740 to fire Mueller.

00:18:46.720 Even though Mueller

00:18:47.460 is friends with Comey,

00:18:48.620 even though Mueller

00:18:49.180 appears to have staffed

00:18:50.200 his investigation

00:18:50.840 with anti-Trump operatives,

00:18:52.240 even though the original

00:18:53.020 Russia investigation itself

00:18:54.540 may have been triggered

00:18:55.500 by Democrat money,

00:18:56.620 I still urged caution.

00:18:58.160 Let it play out.

00:18:58.820 Don't interfere.

00:19:00.060 This is a bridge too far.

00:19:01.580 The missing text messages

00:19:02.800 is a bridge too far.

00:19:04.900 I'm not even impugning

00:19:05.840 Mueller's personal reputation here,

00:19:07.620 his personal integrity.

00:19:08.680 I don't know if he's a hack

00:19:09.540 or if he's a stand-up guy.

00:19:11.340 I don't care.

00:19:12.000 This is a bridge too far.

00:19:13.500 The FBI, the DOJ, Bob Mueller,

00:19:15.360 they don't need to find

00:19:16.160 these text messages.

00:19:17.020 I don't even care.

00:19:17.640 In the spirit of reconciliation,

00:19:19.300 they can just call off

00:19:19.980 the investigation,

00:19:21.040 which has been a partisan

00:19:21.820 witch hunt from the beginning

00:19:22.880 and which we're seeing

00:19:23.800 more clearly every day.

00:19:24.900 But that's the choice.

00:19:25.980 Find the texts

00:19:26.820 or fire Mueller.

00:19:28.260 As Hillary Clinton

00:19:28.940 ironically pointed out,

00:19:30.340 refusing to accept

00:19:31.140 the results

00:19:31.620 of a presidential election

00:19:32.820 is a direct threat

00:19:34.320 to our democracy,

00:19:35.340 we can't tolerate

00:19:36.340 this flagrant threat

00:19:37.700 any longer.

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00:24:01.720 Gentlemen,

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00:24:04.660 Steve Lonegan,

00:24:05.440 your first time here.

00:24:06.800 Steve,

00:24:07.020 for those of you

00:24:07.780 who don't know you,

00:24:09.000 Steve is this great figure

00:24:10.900 in the conservative movement

00:24:12.120 and the Republican Party,

00:24:13.700 former mayor in New Jersey.

00:24:15.860 I think,

00:24:16.360 did you climb a mountain

00:24:17.380 or something?

00:24:18.000 Did I read that somewhere?

00:24:20.100 Yeah,

00:24:20.300 I did Kilimanjaro

00:24:21.200 a few years ago.

00:24:22.320 By the way,

00:24:23.000 Mike,

00:24:23.220 I'm also a client of Da Vinci.

00:24:24.800 I've used their office space

00:24:25.740 many times.

00:24:26.360 You're sponsored.

00:24:26.980 Have you?

00:24:27.420 Yeah,

00:24:27.580 all right.

00:24:28.020 We've got a panel endorsement.

00:24:29.760 New York City,

00:24:30.520 Philadelphia,

00:24:31.420 all over the place.

00:24:32.220 Yeah.

00:24:32.560 Wonderful.

00:24:33.140 Yeah,

00:24:33.400 I think it's a great opportunity.

00:24:35.140 I got a broadcast from New York

00:24:37.260 later in the spring

00:24:38.680 and we're certainly

00:24:40.020 going to be using those guys.

00:24:41.660 So,

00:24:41.760 okay,

00:24:42.000 so we've got a former mayor,

00:24:43.800 all around great conservative activist,

00:24:45.700 climbed Kilimanjaro,

00:24:46.860 you know,

00:24:47.100 just a little thing.

00:24:48.580 So,

00:24:49.100 you've got a-

00:24:50.100 Little town.

00:24:51.420 That's right.

00:24:52.340 You know,

00:24:53.140 you've got this broad array

00:24:54.360 of experiences

00:24:55.280 from your meanderings

00:24:58.420 around politics

00:24:59.280 and the conservative movement.

00:25:01.920 Does Trump need to fire Mueller?

00:25:03.200 Is the Russia investigation

00:25:04.440 too tainted

00:25:05.200 with partisan machinations

00:25:06.520 at this point?

00:25:07.520 Well,

00:25:07.740 I think it's very partisan,

00:25:09.060 but I think the first thing

00:25:09.960 that has to happen

00:25:11.500 is Jeff Sessions

00:25:12.260 should unrecuse himself

00:25:13.560 and the DOJ

00:25:14.740 should take a much more

00:25:15.660 hands-on approach

00:25:16.440 to this investigation

00:25:17.320 because,

00:25:18.440 you know,

00:25:19.080 these missing text messages

00:25:21.280 are equivalent

00:25:22.280 to the Watergate tapes,

00:25:23.480 in my opinion.

00:25:24.380 I think they're going

00:25:24.880 to be very unveiling.

00:25:25.920 The reason there were

00:25:26.660 so many texts

00:25:27.600 is because obviously

00:25:28.320 they were planning something,

00:25:30.020 planning something big.

00:25:31.000 You know,

00:25:32.200 I have long been loath

00:25:34.500 to criticize

00:25:35.040 the Trump administration.

00:25:36.240 I think everything

00:25:36.740 that people freak out about

00:25:38.000 is nothing.

00:25:38.980 It's a nothing burger

00:25:39.700 to quote Van Jones.

00:25:40.960 The tweets

00:25:41.520 and the this and the that.

00:25:42.220 I think that's all fine.

00:25:43.140 The one mistake

00:25:44.120 was Jeff Sessions

00:25:45.780 recusing himself.

00:25:46.860 I felt that was

00:25:47.460 such a misstep,

00:25:48.700 so unnecessary.

00:25:50.040 It gave Democrats

00:25:50.900 such unnecessary leverage.

00:25:53.420 Vincent,

00:25:54.340 what is going to be

00:25:55.520 the outcome

00:25:55.980 of this investigation?

00:25:57.300 You're in New York.

00:25:58.680 You know that you can

00:25:59.700 indict a ham sandwich.

00:26:00.560 Is anything going

00:26:01.860 to come from this?

00:26:03.740 If it were you or I,

00:26:05.160 if it were any individual,

00:26:06.480 we'd be in jail by now,

00:26:07.840 number one.

00:26:09.020 And number two,

00:26:10.220 I agree with Steve.

00:26:11.740 Jeff Sessions

00:26:12.500 needs to wake up here.

00:26:14.340 You know,

00:26:14.600 you have Rosenstein,

00:26:15.760 who's now, you know,

00:26:16.700 the second in command

00:26:17.480 in handling this,

00:26:18.120 whose hands are all over this.

00:26:19.800 You've got McCabe.

00:26:21.000 You've got Strzok.

00:26:22.120 You have all these guys.

00:26:23.400 Comey.

00:26:24.240 And this, by the way,

00:26:25.300 one of the things

00:26:25.820 that I've been thinking about

00:26:27.860 about this entire controversy

00:26:29.240 is these are all connected.

00:26:31.460 The Hillary email campaign

00:26:33.020 and this whole Trump,

00:26:34.740 you know,

00:26:35.020 bury Trump thing

00:26:35.920 that we're talking about here

00:26:36.960 with the missing 50,000 texts

00:26:38.480 and all of this stuff,

00:26:39.780 they're connected.

00:26:40.880 It's a lot of the same people.

00:26:42.580 They couldn't,

00:26:43.260 they saved Hillary,

00:26:44.400 but they couldn't get elected.

00:26:45.960 And when they did,

00:26:46.720 they tried to bury Trump.

00:26:48.400 You know,

00:26:48.560 we need Dianne Feinstein

00:26:49.780 now to step in

00:26:50.580 and get a cold

00:26:51.200 to find those 50,000 text messages.

00:26:53.520 Maybe that's the right thing to do.

00:26:54.640 That's absolutely right.

00:26:57.360 You know, Mike,

00:26:58.440 this whole issue

00:26:59.580 that took place

00:27:00.300 between Strzok

00:27:01.180 and his girlfriend

00:27:02.260 and potentially other FBI agents

00:27:04.500 and substantial people in the FBI,

00:27:07.160 which would be unveiled

00:27:08.220 by this text message,

00:27:09.620 very well could raise

00:27:11.100 the level of treason.

00:27:12.500 If people in the FBI

00:27:13.640 were working actively

00:27:14.840 to undermine the election

00:27:16.120 of the president of the United States,

00:27:17.440 that could very well qualify,

00:27:19.520 as the president said,

00:27:20.900 as treason.

00:27:21.660 So they need to dig in

00:27:22.880 really deep on this.

00:27:24.020 This is way bigger

00:27:24.880 than any phony Russian collusion,

00:27:26.740 which I think we all know now

00:27:27.960 never took place.

00:27:29.020 And it is crazy.

00:27:30.180 There was a formerly

00:27:31.780 very important leader

00:27:34.280 of the conservative movement.

00:27:35.880 I like him personally,

00:27:37.000 so I won't be too mean to him.

00:27:38.440 But he said,

00:27:39.300 when President Trump was elected,

00:27:41.100 he said,

00:27:41.660 between the deep state

00:27:42.380 and the Trump state,

00:27:43.240 I choose the deep state.

00:27:44.780 And that is the worst possible take

00:27:47.600 I can imagine.

00:27:48.960 We're talking about

00:27:50.060 the foundations of our republic.

00:27:52.280 We're talking about

00:27:53.260 the right to self-government itself

00:27:55.440 and saying that we can run

00:27:57.180 our own lives

00:27:57.980 and our own country

00:27:58.840 better than some little band

00:28:00.820 of self-appointed elites

00:28:02.260 and bureaucrats

00:28:03.420 in a far distant capital.

00:28:05.180 And if we see them

00:28:07.760 flexing their muscles

00:28:08.600 and trying to undercut

00:28:10.520 a democratic election,

00:28:12.060 a presidential election,

00:28:13.140 that is a high, high crime.

00:28:15.160 And I don't think

00:28:16.020 you've overstated it.

00:28:17.000 And I don't think

00:28:17.640 Trump overstated it.

00:28:18.700 Okay, we got to get to the news.

00:28:19.540 Schumer is under fire

00:28:20.800 for losing the government

00:28:21.640 shutdown to Trump.

00:28:22.900 He lost.

00:28:23.920 Schumer sellout

00:28:24.880 was trending on Twitter.

00:28:26.220 Politico admitted

00:28:26.920 Democrats lost.

00:28:27.840 MoveOn.org

00:28:28.620 called it a bad,

00:28:29.580 outrageous deal.

00:28:31.020 Pro-amnesty activists

00:28:32.140 called it political malpractice.

00:28:34.300 The cave heard

00:28:35.360 around the world.

00:28:36.440 Now Schumer is insisting

00:28:37.760 that funding for the border wall

00:28:39.400 is off the table.

00:28:40.340 Steve,

00:28:41.320 this is only a stopgap measure

00:28:43.120 that reopened the government.

00:28:44.140 The government is funded

00:28:44.900 through February 8th.

00:28:46.160 What happens then?

00:28:46.980 It comes roaring back

00:28:49.240 on February 8th

00:28:50.180 and the whole issue

00:28:50.800 of amnesty

00:28:51.280 is going to be on the table.

00:28:52.440 We're going to see

00:28:53.120 where people stand.

00:28:54.420 Because what Schumer

00:28:56.060 has succeeded in doing

00:28:57.440 is forcing,

00:28:58.640 apparently,

00:28:59.200 if I'm reading this correctly,

00:29:00.540 a simple up or down vote

00:29:02.500 on DACA.

00:29:03.620 And that's going to make

00:29:04.220 people take a stand.

00:29:05.200 It's going to be quite a debate.

00:29:06.620 And actually,

00:29:07.020 I kind of prefer it that way

00:29:08.140 because let's get it over with.

00:29:09.340 Look,

00:29:09.680 the people,

00:29:10.200 the American people

00:29:10.960 want the wall.

00:29:12.140 They want an end

00:29:12.700 to chain migration.

00:29:14.020 They want merit-based immigration.

00:29:16.500 They want to put an end

00:29:18.880 to the visa

00:29:19.340 or lottery system,

00:29:20.420 whatever you want to call it.

00:29:21.380 This is what the American people want.

00:29:23.100 And this is what

00:29:23.680 Donald Trump is pushing for.

00:29:25.220 And this is what

00:29:25.900 the Republican Congress

00:29:26.860 and Senate need to deliver.

00:29:28.460 If I was in Congress

00:29:29.300 right now,

00:29:30.080 I'd be fighting every day

00:29:31.480 to implement

00:29:32.640 just those policies.

00:29:34.340 But we're going to see

00:29:34.980 what happens by February 8th.

00:29:36.440 Absolutely.

00:29:37.120 The vast majority

00:29:38.200 of Americans,

00:29:39.020 the vast majority,

00:29:40.500 oppose amnesty,

00:29:42.600 even for DACA,

00:29:43.740 even for these people

00:29:45.140 who were brought here

00:29:45.800 at a relatively young age,

00:29:47.060 even for the most sympathetic group

00:29:48.540 of illegal aliens.

00:29:49.800 They oppose amnesty.

00:29:51.020 Only 44% of Democrats

00:29:53.020 support amnesty

00:29:54.360 for the DACA people.

00:29:56.040 That's of Democrats.

00:29:57.160 Those are the people.

00:29:57.740 It is a clear issue.

00:30:00.160 It's clear to the American people.

00:30:01.320 It's just apparently not clear

00:30:02.600 to squishes

00:30:03.500 and radical Democrats

00:30:05.020 in Congress.

00:30:05.800 To Lindsey Graham.

00:30:07.560 That's right.

00:30:08.080 To Lindsey Graham-nesty,

00:30:09.360 as even he admitted

00:30:10.680 he is often called.

00:30:12.160 Vincent,

00:30:12.920 if Republicans do nothing

00:30:14.360 by February 8th,

00:30:16.780 then we don't give amnesty

00:30:18.320 to scores of new Democrat voters

00:30:19.960 and non-essential government services

00:30:22.260 remain closed.

00:30:23.780 Is that supposed to be a threat?

00:30:25.140 Is that,

00:30:25.520 is that,

00:30:26.000 that sounds okay to me.

00:30:26.980 What is the incentive

00:30:27.740 to negotiate anything here?

00:30:30.580 Yeah, I mean,

00:30:31.480 I hear what you're saying,

00:30:32.540 but this is almost

00:30:33.640 a no-win situation

00:30:34.820 because the American people

00:30:37.260 and Trump's entire,

00:30:39.200 you know,

00:30:40.060 presidency,

00:30:41.240 they need immigration reform.

00:30:43.180 He needs to get immigration reform.

00:30:44.860 Obama couldn't do it

00:30:45.740 with 60 seats

00:30:46.500 and everything that Steve noted.

00:30:48.440 Those are all the things

00:30:49.260 that the American people want.

00:30:50.480 The Democrats, however,

00:30:51.900 have no incentive

00:30:52.920 to do anything

00:30:53.800 other than obstruct Trump

00:30:55.360 and make him look bad

00:30:56.860 this entire process.

00:30:58.800 That is the agenda.

00:30:59.880 That's why the government shut down.

00:31:01.540 That's why they're going back

00:31:02.480 on February 8th

00:31:03.280 and it's going to be

00:31:03.720 a circus again.

00:31:04.940 And I think at the end of the day,

00:31:06.340 we elected Trump

00:31:07.180 to hold the line

00:31:08.220 and be toughier

00:31:09.040 and not cave.

00:31:10.020 And I think it's going to be

00:31:11.940 a bit of an impasse.

00:31:12.960 And they're nuts.

00:31:13.680 They think that their own base

00:31:15.100 is further left

00:31:16.260 than even that is.

00:31:17.600 I'm sorry, Steve, go ahead.

00:31:19.560 There's a big issue

00:31:20.320 that's on our side

00:31:21.020 and we have an election

00:31:21.680 come November

00:31:22.380 and there's going to be

00:31:23.320 a whole lot of swing state

00:31:24.740 Democrats on the ballot.

00:31:26.300 And they're going to be looking

00:31:27.100 at what their constituents want

00:31:28.620 and looking at these numbers.

00:31:30.480 I think we can get to 60 votes

00:31:32.740 in the Senate

00:31:33.820 to end chain migration,

00:31:35.480 to build that wall,

00:31:37.040 to end the visa system

00:31:38.140 and to adopt merit-based immigration

00:31:40.500 because of that simple thing

00:31:42.080 called the American election system.

00:31:44.120 So those Democrats

00:31:44.860 are going to have their careers

00:31:45.720 on the line

00:31:46.180 and they know it.

00:31:47.140 They know it.

00:31:47.640 If I were a Democrat

00:31:48.800 either in Congress

00:31:50.660 running for Congress

00:31:51.400 in a swing state this year,

00:31:53.320 I would be terrified of this

00:31:55.040 because the leaders

00:31:56.220 of the Democrat Party,

00:31:57.340 they think that their base

00:31:58.860 is left of Lenin.

00:31:59.920 They think that their base

00:32:00.640 wants to give amnesty

00:32:01.420 to everybody.

00:32:02.280 They don't.

00:32:02.980 It isn't true

00:32:03.700 among any demographic

00:32:05.080 of the American people,

00:32:06.460 including among Democrats.

00:32:08.360 But that's fine.

00:32:08.980 Let them do it.

00:32:09.560 We're going to run up

00:32:10.180 a bunch of good

00:32:10.680 Republican candidates.

00:32:11.820 Now we have to move on.

00:32:12.920 That's their big miscalculation,

00:32:15.120 Michael.

00:32:15.680 That's their big miscalculation.

00:32:17.020 They are believing

00:32:18.600 in the very, very small fringe

00:32:20.240 of their party.

00:32:21.140 And I think they're going

00:32:22.500 to get burned for you.

00:32:23.380 Speaking of bizarre small fringes,

00:32:25.800 we've all heard

00:32:26.460 about the Turpin case,

00:32:27.860 that insane couple

00:32:28.860 who starved and tortured

00:32:30.400 their 13 children

00:32:31.620 and shackled them

00:32:32.320 to furniture.

00:32:33.320 I think they're out here

00:32:34.160 in my state of California,

00:32:35.540 of course,

00:32:36.320 glorious little old California.

00:32:38.400 Now the media are focusing

00:32:39.660 on one aspect in particular,

00:32:41.400 that the Turpins here

00:32:42.820 were homeschooling

00:32:44.180 their children.

00:32:45.360 Of course,

00:32:45.900 they weren't actually

00:32:46.680 homeschooling them

00:32:47.360 or schooling them

00:32:48.020 in any way at all.

00:32:49.020 But according to the government,

00:32:50.080 they were homeschooling them.

00:32:51.300 So left-wing outlets

00:32:52.140 like The Week

00:32:52.860 have written about

00:32:54.520 the sickening danger

00:32:55.700 of homeschooling.

00:32:57.000 Steve,

00:32:57.960 is this bizarre case

00:32:59.620 evidence that we need

00:33:00.840 more government regulation

00:33:02.100 of homeschooling?

00:33:04.220 It's more evidence

00:33:05.240 that the press

00:33:05.880 should be covering

00:33:06.600 the sickening cases

00:33:07.720 of these abortion clinic

00:33:08.940 houses of horrors

00:33:09.740 that are spread

00:33:10.180 all across the country

00:33:11.440 that they seem to forget

00:33:12.720 to talk about.

00:33:14.140 You know,

00:33:14.460 homeschooling is just

00:33:15.820 a fantastic aspect

00:33:17.860 of our American society.

00:33:19.400 I'm a major supporter

00:33:20.400 of homeschooling.

00:33:21.420 It's actually sick

00:33:22.460 to tarnish the image

00:33:23.960 of homeschoolers

00:33:24.700 because of sick people

00:33:25.720 like this

00:33:26.240 because our society,

00:33:28.120 our system,

00:33:29.140 police,

00:33:29.960 the community,

00:33:30.560 whatever,

00:33:31.000 failed to know

00:33:31.840 that this was going on

00:33:33.000 under their very noses.

00:33:34.220 It is a deeply disturbing thing

00:33:35.840 that took place

00:33:36.500 with this family,

00:33:37.600 something that should

00:33:38.180 never happen again.

00:33:39.420 But it's certainly

00:33:40.040 not the fault of homeschoolers

00:33:43.440 and homeschooling

00:33:44.600 should never be blamed

00:33:45.460 for what took place.

00:33:46.120 Of course.

00:33:46.840 You know,

00:33:47.320 you bring up

00:33:47.940 on that House of Horrors

00:33:48.900 a place like Kermit Gosnell,

00:33:51.020 the worst mass murderer

00:33:52.020 in American history,

00:33:53.280 ran a bloody,

00:33:54.380 awful abortion clinic.

00:33:56.060 Limbs and carcasses

00:33:57.500 and things left

00:33:58.340 all over the place.

00:33:59.860 And we don't see them

00:34:00.560 calling for an end

00:34:01.360 to that, by the way.

00:34:02.300 That's right.

00:34:02.720 We don't see them

00:34:03.220 calling for an end

00:34:03.740 to that practice.

00:34:04.620 The press wouldn't cover it.

00:34:05.800 They blacked out

00:34:06.480 the whole thing.

00:34:06.940 They wouldn't cover it.

00:34:07.980 And then this one bizarre

00:34:09.520 savage,

00:34:10.680 torturous couple.

00:34:11.680 Now they say

00:34:12.360 we need to end

00:34:13.140 homeschooling.

00:34:14.660 Vincent,

00:34:15.240 at public schools,

00:34:16.620 17,000 cases

00:34:17.780 of student-on-student

00:34:18.880 sexual assault

00:34:19.680 have been reported

00:34:20.620 in a four-year time frame.

00:34:22.180 According to a 2004

00:34:23.240 Department of Education study,

00:34:25.200 sex abuse of students

00:34:26.240 in schools

00:34:26.820 across the country

00:34:27.620 is 100 times worse

00:34:29.320 than the widely reported

00:34:30.840 on priest sex abuse scandal

00:34:32.860 of the early 2000s.

00:34:34.240 27% of public school kids

00:34:36.340 in the U.S.

00:34:37.320 attend schools

00:34:38.080 that are gang

00:34:38.780 and drug infected

00:34:40.500 according to a 2010

00:34:41.980 national survey.

00:34:43.480 Why are the media

00:34:44.160 so quick to gang up

00:34:45.200 on homeschooling

00:34:46.080 because of one

00:34:46.900 depraved couple

00:34:47.620 but they're silent

00:34:48.360 on the sorry state

00:34:49.580 of government schools?

00:34:52.240 Yeah, well,

00:34:52.960 that's because the media

00:34:53.820 is clearly just

00:34:55.180 always been in collusion

00:34:56.440 with the left

00:34:57.180 and their government programs.

00:34:58.580 But what they seem

00:34:59.580 to jump on

00:35:00.340 and try to claim

00:35:01.520 that government

00:35:01.920 can solve the problem

00:35:02.700 is when there's

00:35:03.100 one isolated incident,

00:35:04.860 like this terrible story

00:35:06.020 in the Turbine House,

00:35:07.300 they jump on that

00:35:08.640 and try to make

00:35:09.200 that a national issue

00:35:10.000 like they need

00:35:11.020 to jump in

00:35:11.520 and do this whole

00:35:12.340 homeschooling

00:35:13.040 government interjection.

00:35:14.280 It's ridiculous.

00:35:15.300 This is what's happened

00:35:16.220 with so many issues

00:35:17.220 in this country.

00:35:18.100 Even DACA

00:35:18.860 you can point to

00:35:20.000 on this

00:35:20.320 where they just

00:35:20.660 embraced this

00:35:21.340 and turned it

00:35:21.780 into the whole

00:35:22.160 immigration issue.

00:35:23.520 The stuff going on

00:35:24.460 in the schools

00:35:24.900 and government schools

00:35:25.780 and all that type of stuff,

00:35:27.100 I have to say

00:35:27.660 if the media

00:35:28.160 were more open-minded

00:35:29.340 to actual journalism

00:35:30.440 and I try every day

00:35:32.940 to try and find someone

00:35:34.120 who's a real journalist

00:35:35.680 out there these days

00:35:36.700 to report fairly

00:35:37.840 on anything

00:35:38.520 and I'm not saying it.

00:35:39.940 These are just examples

00:35:41.340 of that.

00:35:42.100 They're not looking

00:35:43.040 at the real issues

00:35:44.060 that they should be

00:35:44.600 investigating

00:35:45.100 and talking about

00:35:46.240 these stories.

00:35:47.020 They're bringing things

00:35:48.080 out that get

00:35:48.660 kind of partisan-ish

00:35:49.760 or ideology-ish

00:35:51.560 and that drives me crazy.

00:35:53.820 It drives everybody crazy,

00:35:55.420 I'm sure.

00:35:55.760 That conflation

00:35:56.240 is so insane.

00:35:57.900 I'm sorry, Steve,

00:35:58.540 go ahead.

00:36:02.460 Steve, do we have you?

00:36:04.120 Yes, right here.

00:36:05.240 Sorry, go ahead.

00:36:05.860 What'd you say?

00:36:07.240 Well, they're pushing

00:36:08.140 a left-wing agenda.

00:36:09.480 I mean, this is

00:36:09.940 a socialist movement.

00:36:10.980 It's been percolating

00:36:11.700 under the surface

00:36:12.880 of this country

00:36:13.520 going back for decades

00:36:14.900 and it's still out there.

00:36:16.200 They've infiltrated the media.

00:36:17.680 They've infiltrated Hollywood.

00:36:19.220 They've infiltrated

00:36:19.940 our bureaucracy

00:36:20.540 and they continue

00:36:21.460 to push, push,

00:36:22.320 and push

00:36:22.660 a left-wing agenda

00:36:23.880 and part of that agenda

00:36:25.160 is to undermine

00:36:26.240 the very core principles

00:36:27.520 of Western civilization

00:36:28.580 and a lot of what you see

00:36:30.140 going on here

00:36:31.000 is just that.

00:36:32.100 To immediately jump

00:36:33.220 on homeschooling

00:36:34.220 where parents take charge

00:36:35.500 of their children's lives

00:36:36.540 which is a fundamental

00:36:37.560 human right,

00:36:38.840 a fundamental responsibility

00:36:40.200 just shows you

00:36:41.220 where they want to go

00:36:41.940 with this country.

00:36:42.640 That's right

00:36:43.000 and they always conflate

00:36:44.360 all of these bizarre things.

00:36:46.320 So this one little

00:36:47.100 crazy family in California

00:36:49.480 is now to be conflated

00:36:51.020 with all of homeschooling.

00:36:52.360 Just as Vincent pointed out,

00:36:53.860 they take the DACA people,

00:36:55.600 25% of whom are illiterate,

00:36:57.620 50% of whom

00:36:58.400 don't have a really

00:36:59.320 working command

00:37:00.920 of the English language

00:37:01.820 and they say that

00:37:02.800 if you don't support

00:37:04.260 giving immediate amnesty

00:37:05.960 to these illegal aliens,

00:37:07.540 then you're anti-immigrant

00:37:09.100 or you somehow don't want

00:37:10.240 immigrants in the country.

00:37:11.640 It's ridiculous

00:37:12.660 sleights of hand

00:37:13.420 with the language

00:37:14.000 and yeah,

00:37:15.080 we should hold them

00:37:15.820 to account for that.

00:37:16.680 Last topic.

00:37:18.640 A new CNN poll

00:37:19.700 shows Biden,

00:37:21.100 Bernie,

00:37:21.520 and Oprah

00:37:21.980 leading Trump in 2020.

00:37:23.960 57 to 40,

00:37:25.100 55 to 42,

00:37:26.160 and 51 to 42 respectively.

00:37:29.560 Steve,

00:37:29.900 are these numbers legit?

00:37:31.120 Do we need to fear

00:37:31.900 President Oprah,

00:37:33.220 Winfrey, and I?

00:37:34.940 I just remember

00:37:36.260 election night

00:37:37.140 and watching

00:37:38.400 all the CNN guys

00:37:39.720 big smiles on their faces.

00:37:41.220 This was going to be

00:37:41.640 the end of Donald Trump.

00:37:42.660 We're going to have

00:37:43.060 President Putin

00:37:43.640 by the following morning.

00:37:45.440 I remember their faces

00:37:46.900 later that night.

00:37:47.700 They were all just,

00:37:48.440 it was absolutely hilarious.

00:37:50.700 These polls mean

00:37:51.440 absolutely nothing.

00:37:52.760 This economy is booming.

00:37:54.140 The American people

00:37:55.520 are thrilled

00:37:56.360 with the direction

00:37:56.960 this country is going in.

00:37:58.600 You're going to see

00:37:59.080 Republicans keep

00:38:00.060 the House of Representatives

00:38:01.060 come November,

00:38:02.200 end the Senate,

00:38:02.920 and maybe even pick up seats.

00:38:04.720 And I think that very well

00:38:05.820 could happen

00:38:06.460 if things continue

00:38:07.480 to go the way they're going.

00:38:08.720 And you're going to see

00:38:09.380 a second term

00:38:10.200 for President Donald Trump.

00:38:12.000 You also,

00:38:12.540 I will predict,

00:38:13.480 in the next two years,

00:38:14.980 or the second two years

00:38:16.080 of the first Trump term,

00:38:17.560 you're going to see

00:38:18.000 another tax cut bill

00:38:19.560 coming into place,

00:38:20.920 more cuts in regulations

00:38:22.020 and more economic growth.

00:38:23.160 So CNN could continue

00:38:24.720 their pipe dream.

00:38:25.860 I believe, Michael,

00:38:26.720 that they use these polls

00:38:27.860 to try to influence

00:38:29.040 public opinion ahead of time.

00:38:30.860 Just not going to work.

00:38:31.720 Absolutely right.

00:38:32.720 These polls are just

00:38:34.160 a communication strategy.

00:38:36.060 They're just a regular

00:38:36.900 old Democrat tactic.

00:38:38.420 No reason to believe them.

00:38:39.980 Vincent,

00:38:40.740 the combined age

00:38:41.560 of Joe Biden

00:38:42.220 and Bernie Sanders

00:38:43.000 is 487.

00:38:44.560 Do Democrats have

00:38:45.360 any viable young talent

00:38:46.940 for 2020?

00:38:49.540 It's fairly pathetic, right?

00:38:51.700 We're talking about

00:38:52.320 a CNN poll,

00:38:53.140 and I agree with everything

00:38:53.780 that Steve said,

00:38:54.540 but if the Democrats

00:38:55.900 were smart,

00:38:56.860 and I don't want to give them

00:38:57.600 a tip here,

00:38:58.320 but if they were smart,

00:38:59.420 they'd find a centrist,

00:39:00.880 a candidate in the middle

00:39:02.280 that was younger and stronger

00:39:03.660 and push them forward

00:39:04.980 because the direction

00:39:06.200 they're going

00:39:06.800 and the media's ideology,

00:39:08.940 you know,

00:39:09.200 riding with them shotgun,

00:39:10.860 it's not the right direction

00:39:12.240 for the country,

00:39:13.060 number one,

00:39:13.660 and I think it's the wrong direction

00:39:14.660 for them as a party.

00:39:15.600 If they were smart,

00:39:16.980 they'd get out of the weeds

00:39:18.100 with these retreads here,

00:39:20.420 Joe Biden and Bernie,

00:39:21.600 I mean, seriously?

00:39:22.800 Oprah?

00:39:23.380 I mean,

00:39:23.620 I can't even take that seriously.

00:39:25.420 I think there's a better chance

00:39:26.440 of finding the 50,000

00:39:27.560 lost text messages

00:39:28.480 than believing that survey,

00:39:30.420 by the way.

00:39:31.960 Yeah,

00:39:32.140 but I think that

00:39:33.040 that entire party

00:39:35.140 needs an overhaul,

00:39:36.600 and they need to get to the middle

00:39:37.760 if they want any chance,

00:39:39.080 and I don't want to give them

00:39:39.860 that advice.

00:39:40.400 Maybe we need to edit that out.

00:39:41.200 We'll edit that out in post.

00:39:43.880 All right,

00:39:44.340 thank you.

00:39:45.120 All right,

00:39:45.500 gentlemen,

00:39:45.760 that's our whole show.

00:39:46.720 We're out of time.

00:39:47.520 I'm sorry I could keep you here all day.

00:39:49.260 Steve Lonegan,

00:39:50.200 Vincent Buda,

00:39:50.880 thank you both for being here.

00:39:52.260 That's our show today.

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Ep. 92 - Find The Texts Or Fire Mueller

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