The Michael Knowles Show

00:00:00.000 A couple of days ago on this show, I was discussing how terrible Dr. Fauci is.

00:00:06.200 And I, just sort of off the top of my head, said that I wanted every candidate for federal office

00:00:12.680 to sign a pledge. I wanted them to sign the Michael Knowles Public Health Protection Pledge.

00:00:20.000 And that pledge would have to include two things. One, if you are elected to Congress or the Senate,

00:00:25.260 you will vote to subpoena Dr. Fauci and investigate him. And then, using the power of the purse in

00:00:32.760 Congress, you will zero out his salary. So you can't fire him if you're in Congress,

00:00:38.040 but you can get rid of his salary. Very simple. Just two things. I pledge that I will do this.

00:00:44.240 Mentioned it on the show. We moved on with the rest of the show. Then yesterday, I see a message from

00:00:49.640 a congressional candidate, Bo Hines. Bo Hines is running for Congress in North Carolina.

00:00:55.200 And he said, Michael, I heard the show. We had our staff draft up the pledge. I am honored and proud

00:01:03.400 to be the first candidate to sign this pledge. I said, Bo, that's really funny. He posted it to

00:01:09.080 social media. All of a sudden, a ton of different congressional candidates, Senate candidates,

00:01:15.840 candidates all over the country, start posting their photos of the pledge. And they're signing it.

00:01:23.280 Here it is. I've got the pledge right here in my hands. It's very simple. Michael Knowles Federal

00:01:29.180 Public Health Protection Pledge. I, so and so, pledge to the taxpayers of the state or commonwealth of

00:01:35.380 whatever the place is, and to the American people that I will, one, vote to subpoena Dr. Anthony

00:01:41.340 Fauci in order to investigate any corrupt activities to which he may be party regarding

00:01:45.740 the COVID pandemic, as well as the numerous and demonstrable lies that he has told to the U.S.

00:01:51.260 Congress and the American people regarding the virus, its origin, and the efficacy of public

00:01:56.340 health measures to fight it. And two, I will sponsor and vote for legislation that reduces the salary of

00:02:02.180 the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, NIAID, and chief medical

00:02:06.380 advisor to the president of the United States, Dr. Anthony Fauci, to $0.00. Candidate signs here,

00:02:12.740 witness signs here. Very simple. Okay, a ton of candidates have already signed this pledge.

00:02:19.000 I need you, I need your help to get every other congressional candidate, Senate candidate,

00:02:27.320 incumbent sitting politician at the federal level to sign this pledge. I want you to tag

00:02:32.960 your congressman, your senator. I want you to tweet this at them. I want you, I want them on the record.

00:02:39.020 I want this Anthony Fauci gone. I want him cast out of public life. I don't want him to have any more

00:02:46.800 political power in this country. I will not vote for a candidate at the federal level in 2022 who does

00:02:54.400 not sign this pledge, and you should not either. I'm Michael Knowles. This is The Michael Knowles Show.

00:02:59.000 Welcome back to the show. My favorite comment yesterday is from Steve Robson, who says,

00:03:10.820 what most protects people from COVID-19? Turning off the TV. That is true. That is probably the

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00:04:57.720 of Dr. Fauci? Because almost every single thing he has said is wrong, kind of by definition, on every

00:05:05.240 issue at least, he has said the wrong thing. And one of the ways that I know this is because he's

00:05:10.600 held both sides of virtually every issue. He said we shouldn't have lockdowns and he said we

00:05:14.920 should have lockdowns. He said we shouldn't have masks. Then he said we should have masks. He said

00:05:20.020 we don't need to double mask. He said we do need to double mask. He said this, that, and the other

00:05:25.040 thing. The lockdowns in particular have been killers. They've been killers. Deaths of despair are

00:05:32.260 through the roof, especially drug overdoses. I think they jumped something like 30% in one year.

00:05:37.640 Why? Because people were kept away from their support networks. They were kept away from what

00:05:44.120 was considered to be elective medical help, various tests, screenings, counseling. They were locked up

00:05:52.460 in their rooms and they had very little to do. What are you going to do in that world?

00:05:57.600 There are lots of other negative effects of the lockdowns. These poor kids, you know, the kids who

00:06:01.700 aren't allowed to see their friends, who aren't allowed to develop normally. You're just locked up.

00:06:04.940 You had teen anxiety. You had all sorts of teenage problems going through the roof.

00:06:11.240 Well, turns out that the lockdowns very likely were completely pointless from a medical perspective.

00:06:20.880 There's a study out of Johns Hopkins that says, here it is, studies in applied economics. It's

00:06:26.660 something like a 70 page study. Here's the first part of it. Studies in applied economics,

00:06:30.900 a literature review, and meta-analysis of the effects of lockdowns on COVID-19 mortality.

00:06:36.680 It says the lockdowns were pointless. Quote, while this meta-analysis concludes that lockdowns have

00:06:44.060 had little to no public health effects, they have imposed enormous economic and social costs

00:06:49.320 where they have been adopted. In consequence, lockdown policies are ill-founded. Goes on,

00:06:54.980 the evidence fails to confirm that lockdowns have a significant effect in reducing COVID-19 mortality.

00:07:01.680 The effect is little to none. The use of lockdowns is a unique feature of the COVID-19 pandemic.

00:07:07.940 Lockdowns have not been used to such a large extent during any of the pandemics in the past century.

00:07:13.720 However, lockdowns during the initial phase of the COVID-19 pandemic have had devastating effects.

00:07:19.340 They have contributed to reducing economic activity, raising unemployment, reducing schooling,

00:07:24.180 causing political unrest, contributing to domestic violence, and undermining liberal democracy.

00:07:30.100 These costs to society must be compared to the benefits of lockdowns, which our meta-analysis has

00:07:35.420 shown are marginal at best. Such a standard benefit cost calculation leads to a strong conclusion.

00:07:41.080 Lockdowns should be rejected out of hand as a pandemic policy instrument.

00:07:45.640 What the left has been telling us from almost day one, certainly since they started to endorse these

00:07:55.140 lockdowns, is, look, it's unpleasant. No one wants to do it. It's tough. It's hard. But you need to do it

00:08:02.740 to flatten the curve and slow the spread and save your fellow man. It's patriotic, they told us,

00:08:10.700 to lock down. Yes, it's hard, but we're sacrificing. We're sacrificing for the greater good, except we're

00:08:17.000 not. We were sacrificing for the bad. We were sacrificing for the greater bad. Because according

00:08:23.800 to this study, this meta-analysis of many other studies from Johns Hopkins, the lockdowns had little

00:08:31.040 to no public health benefit or really affected all and lots of devastating consequences from society by

00:08:40.160 many other metrics. Yeah, of course. Of course, we knew that. We knew this is nothing new. I'm not

00:08:48.680 telling. I am very few people who listen to this show did not already know that the lockdowns were

00:08:53.200 medically pointless. Maybe some, maybe some of the wonderful Democrats and moderates and

00:08:59.440 independents who listen to this show were on the fence. But I would estimate most people who

00:09:03.460 listen to this show already knew that lockdowns were pointless. But you weren't allowed to say that.

00:09:08.620 You weren't allowed to say that. You could be censored. You could be contradicting the expert

00:09:14.060 opinion of the geniuses at the CDC and Dr. Fauci and Joe Biden, you know, all those experts and geniuses.

00:09:19.400 You could be kicked off of social media for saying that.

00:09:22.280 If you pointed out that the lockdowns were politically very useful for the people in power,

00:09:28.700 medically not very useful at all. So the question now is not, ha ha, how right were we?

00:09:34.820 Oh, how good do we feel that we were right? The question is, what are we being censored

00:09:38.520 for now that is going to be proven, that where it will be proven that we are correct in six to

00:09:46.780 nine months? We frequently say now, at this point, the difference between the truth and a conspiracy

00:09:52.760 theory is about six to nine months. The conspiracy theories seem to get proven true. Well, we won't

00:09:58.820 even have to wait that long. Here's one, here's one thing that we're not allowed to say now,

00:10:03.180 where I, maybe I'll be censored if I say this. And if I am, we'll put a censor bar over me on

00:10:07.860 YouTube or something. Ivermectin probably has some antiviral effect when it comes to COVID-19.

00:10:19.840 I'm willing to say that. I know I'm, I'm violating all the rules of Dr. Fauci,

00:10:25.080 but I bet that Ivermectin called a wonder drug by all the expert geniuses just five or six years ago,

00:10:33.380 a wonderful antiviral probably has some kind of antiviral effect on COVID-19. Ivermectin is not

00:10:42.020 horse paste or horse dewormer any more than aspirin is a horse drug. Ivermectin is a human drug.

00:10:49.900 Can be used for animals too, but it's a human drug. And I bet that it has, even though you're

00:10:55.220 not allowed to say it, I bet that it's going to have some antiviral. Oh, actually, I don't need to

00:10:58.100 wait that long. A Japanese company has just come out. It's a Japanese pharmaceuticals company,

00:11:03.220 Kaua, has been doing research on Ivermectin and they have found an antiviral effect. Quote,

00:11:09.920 this, this is from, from Reuters. So Reuters, this is not some far right wing outlet. This is from

00:11:14.260 Reuters. The company, which has been working with Tokyo's Kitasato University on testing the drug as

00:11:19.840 a potential, uh, treatment for COVID-19 did not provide further details, but they did find an

00:11:26.980 antiviral effect. Here's what the Washington Post said. This is some months ago. How those

00:11:34.040 Ivermectin conspiracy theories convinced people to buy horse dewormer. Ha ha ha. Remember CNN mocked

00:11:39.100 Joe Rogan. Joe Rogan's eating horse drugs. Ha ha ha. A bunch of media figures suggested that

00:11:44.760 Ivermectin overdoses were killing people and sending them to Oklahoma hospitals. That was

00:11:50.240 completely made up. That was just a 100% fake news story as the, as the daily wire debunked.

00:11:55.440 The FDA even said it. They said, quote, you are not a horse. You are not a cow. Serious y'all.

00:12:00.560 Seriously, y'all stop it. Ha ha ha. We're the geniuses. We're the experts. Stop it. That Ivermectin

00:12:05.740 has no, there's a 0% chance that has any antiviral effect. Oh, whoopsie daisy. Just one Japanese

00:12:12.300 pharmaceutical company that has the chutzpah to look into it says, oh yeah, it looks like,

00:12:16.320 looks like it might have antiviral properties. What are we told now is impossible. What are we

00:12:22.620 censored for saying now that's going to be proven true in six months? I don't know. You're going to

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00:13:37.660 Do you know how I knew that the lockdowns were going to be proven to be medically pointless? Do

00:13:43.940 you know how I knew that the cloth masks were going to be proven to be medically pointless as now

00:13:48.960 all of the health experts admit, as the CDC admits, as the CNN medical analyst admits? Do you know how I

00:13:54.880 knew that there were going to be side effects, at least in some cases, in some number of cases from

00:14:01.340 the vaccines? Do you know how I knew all of those things were eventually going to be proven true as

00:14:06.220 they have been proven true? Because of the pushback. Because they were perfectly reasonable questions

00:14:12.860 that had been voiced by plenty of very well-respected sorts of people, including Dr. Fauci. Remember Dr.

00:14:19.520 Fauci made fun of the masks and said they were stupid. And then all of a sudden, you weren't allowed

00:14:24.440 to say it. And if you did say it, you were a murderer and you were a danger and you had to be

00:14:28.080 censored and you had to be ostracized. The minute that happened, I knew it was very likely going to

00:14:33.900 be proven true. Dr. Fauci. Dr. Fauci. Where's my pledge? Don't forget the pledge. Get your candidates

00:14:43.260 to sign the pledge. The public health protection pledge to fire Dr. Fauci. Why? Why? On the, just this

00:14:52.680 question of ivermectin, which just this Japanese pharmaceuticals company has been researching,

00:14:56.960 has found that it's got some antiviral properties. Okay. Why would, would the government suppress the

00:15:04.820 use of certain drugs such as let's say ivermectin, but others too, and promote the vaccines and promote

00:15:12.120 really only one drug remdesivir? Hmm. Well, let's think about it. Let's take, let's take off our

00:15:18.300 scientist hats for a second because we're talking about a political question. Now let's put on our

00:15:22.140 politician hats. Don't forget Dr. Fauci. He plays a scientist on TV, but he is primarily a politician.

00:15:27.280 He gets his paycheck from the federal government. He answers to political pressures. He's one of the

00:15:32.660 most powerful politicians in America. Why would the government discourage the use of certain

00:15:39.180 therapeutics? There's two reasons I can see money and power. When you're talking about politics,

00:15:46.960 usually it's going to boil down to those two things, money and power. Dr. Fauci has always

00:15:55.060 been a big promoter of vaccines. I'm not even saying it comes from a place of dishonesty. He just

00:16:01.340 believes that vaccines are the best way to improve the public health. This was true during AIDS. This

00:16:08.800 was true during the 2000s, during some of the bioterrorism scares. That is true today. He's all

00:16:15.840 about vaccines first. So if you're promoting the vaccines and the widespread adoption of vaccines,

00:16:21.180 it would stand to reason that you might want to discourage the use of therapeutics. Because if

00:16:26.680 there's a very simple therapeutic to deal with some kind of epidemic, then people are going to be

00:16:32.140 discouraged from getting the vaccine. Why would I take some experimental vaccine or some experimental

00:16:37.860 drug that even doesn't have all the properties of a vaccine when I could just get the virus? If the

00:16:43.000 virus isn't that bad, I can just take a therapeutic and I'll most likely be fine. So you've got to

00:16:47.820 suppress the use of longstanding, well-known therapeutics. But then, okay, what about in this

00:16:53.140 case, the public health establishment is really pushing one therapeutic above all and almost

00:16:59.780 exclusively. That would be remdesivir. Remdesivir is this drug. It's the one drug that the federal

00:17:05.840 government seems to be really pushing. Why might they be pushing it? I guess it could be because in their

00:17:11.960 medical opinion and their totally unbiased medical opinion, remdesivir is by far the best drug.

00:17:16.300 Except there have been a lot of articles in mainstream outlets, including ABC, NBC, Forbes,

00:17:21.620 that have suggested that remdesivir doesn't really work that well. Might it have something to do with

00:17:27.880 the fact that some of these older longstanding treatments that we've all heard about cost, I don't

00:17:33.360 know, 10 bucks a shot and remdesivir costs $3,500 per treatment. Remdesivir produced by Gilead, which

00:17:41.820 spent almost two and a half million dollars lobbying the federal government in the first quarter of 2020.

00:17:47.700 Who knows how much since then? Might it have some, I'm not, I'm not even suggesting some massive

00:17:54.560 conspiracy where people are hiding out in bunkers and smoke-filled rooms cooking up ways to take over

00:18:00.700 the world. I'm just suggesting basic politics, power and money. Those are, those are very important

00:18:09.780 things. And if you're a politician and you are offered a way to increase your, or maintain your

00:18:16.520 power and to be influenced by some amount of money, that's going to have an effect that almost always

00:18:24.860 does have an effect. Maybe that has something to do with it. Are you even allowed to ask that? Are we

00:18:30.640 even allowed to ask about money and influence in politics anymore? Or is that, that's a conspiracy

00:18:37.520 theory too? Because the left was babbling on about that for many, many years, many, many decades.

00:18:43.760 But now that they're the ones who are trying to maintain their influence and their money,

00:18:47.120 all of a sudden we're not allowed to talk about it. Okay. Makes sense, right? Speaking of really bad

00:18:51.660 Democrat policies and actually the public health as well, there is a crime epidemic through this

00:18:58.960 country. The crime epidemic, which if it gets ahold of you is going to be a whole lot deadlier than any

00:19:04.620 kind of virus. Bullets tend to be a lot deadlier than most viruses. You've got, you've got this crime

00:19:10.600 spreading all around the country. Jen Psaki was just asked about this because the Democrats are widely

00:19:16.260 perceived to be soft on crime. She laughs off the answer. If you look at Fox on a daily basis,

00:19:23.020 I mean, do you remember the four boxes that you had that we had on all the TVs, right? Which is on

00:19:27.160 my TV right now. So right now, just to give you a sense. So CNN Pentagon, as many as 8,500 US troops

00:19:33.760 on heightened alert. Okay. True. Same on MSNBC. CNBC is doing their own thing about the market. And then

00:19:40.460 on Fox is Janine Pirro talking about soft on crime consequences. I mean, what, what does that even

00:19:46.860 mean? Right? Um, so there's an alternate universe on some, uh, coverage. What's scary about it is a lot

00:19:54.100 of people will watch that. It's like, what does that even mean? Soft on crime? What do you, what does

00:20:00.480 that even mean? Does it mean that, um, violent crime is up 23% nationally? I guess that's what it could

00:20:08.840 mean. Does it mean that homicides are up 58% in Atlanta, Democrat run city, or that, uh, homicides

00:20:17.100 are up 533% in Portland, Democrat run city, or that homicides are up 37% in Philadelphia, Democrat run

00:20:27.500 city, or that shootings are up 54% in New York? Is that a, just want to check it. Oh, it's a Democrat

00:20:34.320 run city. Or, uh, does that mean that shootings are up 18% in Democrat run Chicago? The shootings

00:20:41.660 were already so high in Chicago. It's hard for them to go any higher, but they managed to go a

00:20:45.000 little bit higher, 18% or that they're up 51% in Los Angeles, a Democrat run city. Maybe that's what

00:20:50.560 it means. What does that even mean? Soft on crime. Jen Psaki probably doesn't know what it means.

00:20:57.800 Jen Psaki probably doesn't know what it means because she doesn't live in bad neighborhoods.

00:21:01.420 She lives, I imagine, in a pretty nice neighborhood. I bet everyone who works for the

00:21:09.100 Biden administration lives in a pretty nice neighborhood. They never have to deal with

00:21:14.960 the consequences of their policies. And what are those policies? Abolish the police, defund the

00:21:21.040 police, install soft prosecutors who refuse, who simply refuse to prosecute violent criminals,

00:21:27.540 who let them out of jail when they're in jail and don't send them to jail in the first place when

00:21:31.140 they have the opportunity. Direct policy. These aren't my words. Abolish the police is not my

00:21:36.860 phrase. Defund the police is not my phrase. Abolish prisons is not my phrase. Now over

00:21:42.660 incarceration is not my, that's, these are Democrat phrases, Democrat campaigns and policies

00:21:47.500 that have led to a massive crime surge that Jen Psaki and Joe Biden and none of these people are ever

00:21:53.940 going to deal with because they live in really nice neighborhoods. And so they're focused on things

00:21:58.480 that really matter to them like Ukraine, which no one, not one person in actual America who isn't

00:22:04.600 working for the liberal establishment in the media, in the elite echelons of government, not one other

00:22:09.580 person cares about Ukraine. Do we need to make sure that we defend certain allies and oppose certain

00:22:15.720 threats at the level of geopolitics? Yeah, sure. Okay, fine. I'm not disputing that. But people care much,

00:22:23.460 much more about their own neighborhoods in New York and Chicago and Los Angeles than they care

00:22:29.700 about freaking Kiev. Much, much more. And this glib dismissal of people's concerns is the reason why

00:22:38.000 the Democrats approval ratings are in the gutter right now. Why Joe Biden is at 30%. And by the way,

00:22:44.980 he's basically the most popular person in his administration. Everyone in the administration

00:22:49.620 is in the 30s right now. And the policies are continuing. What does, what does soft on crime

00:22:58.020 look like? Here's, here's one story. This is from DHS. Department of Homeland Security has decided

00:23:04.300 not to deport a man named Heriberto Fuerte Padilla. Heriberto Fuerte Padilla is an illegal alien.

00:23:13.600 He was not deported for the long period of time that he lived in America. He got drunk,

00:23:21.580 drove a car and killed a teenager in Texas, an American teenager in Texas. Killed her. Oh,

00:23:27.560 and then he fled the scene. So it was a hit and run. He fled the scene. He was arrested.

00:23:33.400 They were going to deport him finally, too late apparently, but they were going to deport him.

00:23:37.880 And then DHS decided, nope, we're not going to deport him. We're not even going to deport

00:23:43.720 a drunk, driving, illegal alien who killed a teenager. That's what soft on crime means,

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00:25:32.180 In order to evaluate any vaccine, you want to hear both sides of an argument.

00:25:36.220 All media and information that we are currently encountering is manipulated.

00:25:41.300 I want to jump in and talk about when your interview with Joe Rogan started going viral.

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00:26:12.000 I've been given the gift that I might be able to make a positive impact. How can I walk away from that?

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00:26:47.820 The Department of Homeland Security is refusing to deport a drunk driving illegal alien who killed

00:27:01.520 a Texas teen. Furthermore, U.S. Customs, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, ICE,

00:27:08.200 has told Texas that it's canceling more deportation requests. These are detainers on other illegal

00:27:15.820 immigrants, including some people who pled guilty to felony charges of evading arrest or had

00:27:23.420 convictions, not even just arrests, convictions for drunk driving, drug possession, or domestic

00:27:30.240 assault, injuring a family member. They're not going to deport even those people. They're just going

00:27:36.480 to let them stay. Where is this coming from? Is this coming from the ICE agents? They're the ones

00:27:46.220 who say we don't want to deport them? I doubt it. Usually the rank and file guys are interested in doing

00:27:54.080 their jobs. It's usually not their fault when their jobs are not being done. It's usually their boss's

00:27:58.720 fault. It's the political's fault. So is it Alejandro Mayorkas' fault, the Secretary of Homeland Security?

00:28:06.160 I actually don't even think it's his fault. I don't particularly care for that guy.

00:28:09.960 But he was just caught on a hidden microphone just the other day complaining about this. He said,

00:28:17.320 the border situation is the worst it has been in at least 20 years, if not ever, which looks really

00:28:23.620 bad for him. I suspect Mayorkas probably wants to enforce the law at least a little bit more.

00:28:29.320 I think this is coming from Biden. Well, I don't think anything's coming from Biden. I don't think

00:28:33.260 Biden knows what day it is, but I think that this is coming from the White House. I think this is

00:28:37.900 coming from the radical leftist Democrats who are surrounding the president and running the White House.

00:28:45.420 And I think the order is coming from on high to DHS, to ICE, don't deport these people.

00:28:53.160 And it's having really devastating political effects for non-radical leftists. It's really

00:28:59.820 ginning up the base, but the base is not going to win them elections. Really, really bad stuff.

00:29:08.000 And Mayorkas looks absolutely terrible. Now, this guy, Heriberto Fuerte Padilla,

00:29:17.400 he would be an example of a very bad Hispanic person in America. Turning to a very good Hispanic

00:29:24.780 person in America, of which there are many, I have to give a huge amount of credit to Attorney General

00:29:32.500 Jason Miares. I hope I'm pronouncing that correctly. He is the new Attorney General

00:29:37.300 in Virginia. He was brought in with the Yunkin administration. This guy is absolutely crushing

00:29:44.460 it. He's been in office for what, five minutes now? Already, already three Virginia universities,

00:29:51.780 big universities, are choosing to end their vaccine mandate.

00:29:56.260 Why? Why? Because they're afraid of big bag Jason? Yeah, actually, that's why.

00:30:03.220 Because the Attorney General sent out a legal opinion, just sent it out to all of his colleagues,

00:30:08.760 all of his constituents. He said, it is my opinion, quote, that absent scientific authority

00:30:14.500 conferred by the General Assembly, public institutions of higher education in Virginia

00:30:19.020 may not require vaccination against COVID-19 as a general condition of students' enrollment

00:30:25.340 or in-person attendance. That's my opinion, guys. So, students, if you decide to sue, if you decide to

00:30:37.420 make this a legal matter, just letting you know here that the Attorney General is on your side

00:30:42.220 and not on the side of the administrators and the leftists and Dr. Fauci. And so, what happens?

00:30:48.980 The universities say, okay, we give up. This is a great example of culture being downstream of

00:30:57.940 politics. I don't want to make fun of Breitbart's motto too much because the point that he was making

00:31:03.580 is true enough. You know, politics is downstream of culture. The idea that the movies affect the way

00:31:08.440 that our society works and artwork and civil institutions. Yeah, sure. Of course, that's

00:31:13.500 obviously true. That's not the whole story, folks. That's not an excuse for cowardly Republican

00:31:20.780 politicians not to govern, not to do their job, not to wield the political power that we the people

00:31:25.760 give them. Politicians, you still have to do your job. One of your jobs, by the way, sign the public

00:31:31.260 health protection pledge that you will investigate Dr. Fauci and get rid of his salary. Very important

00:31:36.620 for all candidates for Congress or the Senate this year to do that. But we need to recognize that at

00:31:45.900 every level of the government, people can wield political power and that political power is going

00:31:51.620 to have cultural effects. When this guy, this Attorney General says, here's what the law says now,

00:31:56.120 here's my interpretation of the law, and I'm willing to take this to court and I'm going to fight very

00:32:00.460 hard for my interpretation of the law. Then the cultural institutions, like the universities,

00:32:05.780 which are not purely private sector, by the way, right? They get public funding,

00:32:10.360 but they're also kind of in the private sphere, like most things in our society. Google, it's not

00:32:15.520 just a private company. It's not just the government. It's kind of a little bit both. It's a little bit

00:32:19.400 blurry. Politics and culture get blurry sometimes. Public and private get blurry sometimes. They are going

00:32:25.860 to answer to what the politics, what the government has said. Very important. Good news out of

00:32:34.800 universities in Virginia. There's some bad news out of universities in Washington, DC. One university

00:32:42.120 in particular, Georgetown Law School. There's a big dust up at Georgetown Law School. The dust up is

00:32:51.120 this. Ilya Shapiro, who is a libertarian lecturer at the Georgetown Law School, and he's the head of the

00:32:56.640 Center for the Constitution. Ilya Shapiro said that Biden is doing the wrong thing by limiting his

00:33:03.780 selection for the Supreme Court to a black woman by excluding, effectively, 94% of Americans from

00:33:10.900 consideration. Ilya Shapiro suggested that an Indian woman, who is a judge, be Biden's pick.

00:33:20.700 He said that she is the best candidate, and every other candidate would be a lesser candidate.

00:33:27.600 And the way he phrased it, I guess it was a little inartful, but he said,

00:33:30.700 it should be this woman, but Joe Biden, because he is playing this identity politics thing,

00:33:35.380 is going to instead nominate a lesser nominee, who is a black woman. And this has been, I think,

00:33:42.060 willfully misconstrued by leftists to sound as though Ilya Shapiro is saying that black women

00:33:47.340 as a category are lesser than some other group, which obviously is not what he is. It's just

00:33:52.200 literally not what he's saying, and it's quite clearly in context, not the point that he's making.

00:33:56.960 So what happens in this case? Students are disagreeing with a professor, whether because

00:34:03.040 they've misunderstood what he's saying, because these students are, they're not the creme de la

00:34:08.800 creme, as we will come to see, or because they are willfully trying to misunderstand what he's saying

00:34:15.500 so that they can get rid of him. What do you do? In a good flourishing society, you would just argue

00:34:20.940 your point calmly, rationally, say that this professor is wrong, and he should face X, Y,

00:34:27.580 and Z consequences. But because we're not living in a reasonable time right now, the students are

00:34:32.020 instead huffing and puffing and throwing a temper tantrum and dragging the dean of the law school

00:34:37.740 into a struggle session where they say they need a place to cry. A place to cry, seriously.

00:34:44.380 Georgetown law students, this is a good law school. And these students are saying,

00:34:48.160 we, we don't have enough places to cry on campus. And, and the, and the craziest part about the whole

00:34:53.880 story is the dean is indulging them. It's really hard to walk out of caring. It is really, really

00:35:02.080 hard to walk out of class or a meeting in tears. And you should always have a place on campus where you

00:35:08.680 can go and feel like you're not then also under people's eyes and observation. Maybe you don't want

00:35:14.600 to answer a question of what's going on or what's wrong. And if you're finding that you're not

00:35:19.760 getting the person you want to talk to, or not getting a space that you need, reach out to me

00:35:25.480 anytime, anytime. So we will find you space and we will find you the right space.

00:35:30.960 These students do not need places to cry. These students need to shut up, get themselves together

00:35:41.460 and then behave like adults, behave like, like future lawyers. There is no crying in the law.

00:35:48.560 There's no crying in baseball. There's no crying in the law. They do need comfort, these students,

00:35:53.620 but they don't need a box of tissues for comfort. They need comfort. Like we see on the bio tapestry,

00:35:59.180 bio tapestry, very famous work of Western art, where there is an image of, of a bishop holding

00:36:05.140 a club, swinging the club at his soldiers. And it says here, Bishop Odo wielding a club comforts the

00:36:12.380 boys. I'm not saying we literally need to start clubbing students who cry a lot, but I, but I am

00:36:17.660 saying that we need comfort in that sense, meaning to give strength, to toughen them up saying, get back

00:36:24.000 in the fight, fellas. No way. Sorry. You can't behave like a six-year-old. If you want to be a

00:36:30.060 lawyer, if you, if you want to be at a prestigious law school, if these students can't hear an opinion

00:36:34.960 that they disagree with without bursting into tears, they should be expelled because they're not,

00:36:39.500 they're not up to snuff. They're not competent. They're not educated and they might, maybe they're

00:36:44.420 intelligent enough, maybe not. They're certainly not educated enough to be in law school. And so they

00:36:49.820 need to leave. They need to go away from law school for a little while and grow up. And, and then maybe

00:36:55.600 they can be at the level where they can attend a prestigious law school. But right now they're not

00:37:00.200 there if they're bursting into tears because some libertarian makes a perfectly fine point.

00:37:05.580 They're not there. This, the crazy part is not even the students. I feel bad for these students.

00:37:13.240 They're not well-prepared. They're not well-educated. They shouldn't be at Georgetown Law School.

00:37:17.120 It's the administrators that I really blame. At one point, one of these students,

00:37:22.360 you gotta, you gotta almost give her credit. She brought up out of nowhere, she said that there

00:37:28.720 is a, people talk about reparations for black people in America. And so she wants reparations

00:37:34.220 to begin right now by having the Dean bring her some snacks. And the Dean acquiesces.

00:37:40.740 Coming back to the reparation things, because like this is, this is great, but we have to do so much

00:37:45.060 work to catch up for all this stuff that we missed. All I'm saying is, I don't know if

00:37:49.440 it's a couple of dinners or lunches or something, but that would help us because we like, we can't,

00:37:56.080 I can't go home for lunch now because I need to study. I have to, I have to make up for this

00:37:59.880 class that I lost. So it's little things like that. It doesn't have to be something that takes

00:38:03.860 a year to figure out. It's like, we know our black students or whatever group is hurting and we're

00:38:09.200 going to give them things today, whether it's snacks, whether it's counseling, whether it's

00:38:12.920 whatever. But the part of that trust is to see an immediate reaction to what we are saying,

00:38:18.260 but food will be great. We have food on the way.

00:38:24.320 It's that's the most pathetic part at the end. I hope this girl is half joking. I think she's

00:38:29.640 half joking, but she's half not joking too. She's saying we need snacks. I missed class and I got to

00:38:34.680 make up that class now because I cried because I couldn't stand it. I wasn't able to make it through

00:38:40.560 class because I'm obviously not prepared for this law school. And so I had to go cry.

00:38:46.980 And so I need, I need snacks and I need you to bring me some dinner and I need you to bring

00:38:51.220 us dinner on the basis of our race. The white kids don't need dinner. The Asian kids don't need

00:38:57.320 dinner, but the black kids need dinner. She's saying we don't, we're not capable of getting our

00:39:01.980 own dinner and our own snacks. I don't think that's true. I'd bet that girl can probably get her own

00:39:07.120 snacks. In fact, I bet that girl doesn't even really need to cry. I bet she is wielding

00:39:12.820 vulnerability as a mask for her own viciousness and her own desire to, to beat her political

00:39:21.060 opponents into submission. That's what I think this is really. I don't think, I think these are

00:39:24.520 crocodile tears of very vicious people who have been very badly educated. But, and I bet she can

00:39:33.700 get her own snacks and I bet she can get her own dinner. She seems perfectly capable. She's capable

00:39:38.220 of bringing the Dean of the law school to his knees. I think she can probably go get a bag of

00:39:41.640 potato chips. The craziest part about it is that the Dean of the law school says, of course, snacks

00:39:48.060 are already on the way. We're already doing it. We already agree with you. We already agree with

00:39:54.980 your deeply offensive premises and we've already done it. The issue is not that these students are

00:40:05.460 entitled and uneducated and radical. These students might be particularly all three of those things,

00:40:14.280 but students since the dawn of time have been entitled, uneducated, and radical. That has been true

00:40:24.780 in, not just in Washington DC, but around the world. This is true of every race, of every sex,

00:40:31.640 of every type of person. Some more, some less, but that's always true.

00:40:39.040 The issue is that the administrators are indulging it. It used to be the case that when students would

00:40:44.240 do stupid things, the administrators would smack them on the wrist and say, don't do that.

00:40:49.380 None of that. It used to be that when students would do stupid things, they would be punished for it.

00:40:55.040 Now they are rewarded for it. And the only person who is going to be punished in this situation

00:40:59.780 is the professor, Ilya Shapiro, who made a perfectly innocuous point, an obvious point, frankly.

00:41:08.780 Even if it was inartfully said, no one, I don't think anyone really thinks that this guy

00:41:16.640 hates black women or something like that. He's making a point. He's actually making the point

00:41:21.600 that we shouldn't discriminate against people on the basis of their race and sex.

00:41:25.440 And they're saying, well, because you won't discriminate against people on the basis of

00:41:28.520 their race and sex, you are a racist and a sexist. And one student asked the most radical question of

00:41:34.820 all at this struggle session. And it's the conservatives are pouncing, to use the verb that

00:41:43.220 is always used in the New York Times and the Washington Post. Conservatives are pouncing on this comment,

00:41:46.960 but it's actually a good question. This guy, Ilya Shapiro, directs the Center for the Constitution.

00:41:52.420 He's an originalist interpreter of the Constitution. And the student asks,

00:41:57.060 why do we need a center for the Constitution at all?

00:42:00.200 Student at Georgetown Law School asked the Dean, Triner, in the wake of this Ilya Shapiro

00:42:09.840 non-traversy, this professor who has an originalist view, says, why does this center exist at all?

00:42:18.360 Now, don't forget, the struggle session we're talking about here was supposedly all just about

00:42:22.920 how a professor made a racist comment. The professor didn't make a racist comment,

00:42:27.900 but it was all supposed to be just about race, right? And working through that. But it's really

00:42:31.960 not about race. And it's really not about students being offended by a professor's views of race and

00:42:37.920 sex, which are views he doesn't even hold. This is about something much deeper. This is about

00:42:42.500 kicking conservatives off campus. Nothing to do with race, nothing to do with sex, everything to do

00:42:48.380 with politics and philosophy. Finally, this one student asks the Dean, why does this center for

00:43:00.860 the Constitution exist at all? So Ilya Shapiro, I misspoke, he doesn't direct the center, but he's

00:43:06.520 affiliated with these views, right? Originalism and with this center. So the director of the center,

00:43:12.180 Randy Barnett, also holds these same views. And the student says, why was it created?

00:43:19.640 Because so far it seems like it has done more harm than good. You can do as much diversity training as

00:43:24.640 you want with staff, but I feel like that center has a certain ideology. So I really want you to

00:43:29.400 defend why we really need it beyond like, you know, free speech and beyond diversity opinion.

00:43:35.080 I really want us to think critically about why we still need it. This is a great question. This is a

00:43:40.380 great question. I'm glad she asked. I don't think it's a stupid question. Why do we need it beyond,

00:43:47.000 you know, free speech or diversity of opinion? Right. This, obviously this student has no respect

00:43:52.080 for free speech, whether in the absolute or in, in the actual American tradition, obviously has no

00:43:57.680 respect for diversity of opinion, but why do we need it? Why do we need an originalism institute

00:44:04.840 at Georgetown Law? What, what I think most conservatives would say is because we need

00:44:10.980 diversity of opinion on campus because we need free speech on campus, right? They would, they would

00:44:15.360 defend it in the abstract, but we don't need every single view on every single subject represented on

00:44:22.540 campus. I don't think that conservatives would necessarily, maybe they would these days,

00:44:27.420 unfortunately. But I don't think we need a Satanist institute on campus, do we? I don't think

00:44:33.640 we need a pedophilia institute on campus, do we? I don't think we need a torture little puppies

00:44:39.740 institute on campus, do we? Well, if Dr. Fauci had his way, we probably would have a torture puppies

00:44:43.860 institute. Another reason to sign the pledge, the public health protection pledge that you'll

00:44:49.180 investigate and get rid of Dr. Fauci's salary. Make sure you get all of your candidates to sign

00:44:54.200 that. But we don't need those things. There, there is no even semi-plausible reading of academic

00:45:03.500 freedom that says that we need pedophilia and Satanism and torturing little puppies on campus,

00:45:10.420 right? Certain things can be excluded, of course. So why, why do you need the originalism institute?

00:45:19.920 Because originalism is a plausible, decent, substantive way to interpret the constitution.

00:45:30.720 Because there's something good about it. Because there's something edifying in teaching students

00:45:35.220 about originalism. It's not, it's not, the reason for it is not academic freedom or freedom of speech.

00:45:41.680 It's because it's good. It's a good thing to, to learn. I, I went back, I found this going around

00:45:48.980 Twitter. I'm, I'm, I mean to give credit to whoever posted it, but it was Matthew Schmitz at first

00:45:55.360 things. Whoever, I'll give, I'll give him credit even if, even if he didn't post it. Came back and,

00:46:01.980 and found an earlier president of Georgetown University in 1950 writing about academic freedom.

00:46:08.900 We were told these are the good old days of academic freedom, right? Except he makes fun of it. He calls

00:46:13.320 it the sacred fetish of academic freedom. He says, if the United States, he says in the educational

00:46:18.920 world today, we are witnessing the foolhardy attempt either to bring into being or to understand a

00:46:24.420 thing which has neither form nor matter, is subject to no standard or norm, has neither limitation nor

00:46:31.460 definition, the sacred fetish of academic freedom. This is the soft underbelly of our American way of

00:46:38.340 life. And the sooner it is armor plated by some sensible limitation, the sooner will the future

00:46:43.440 of this nation be secured from fatal consequences. Two test questions, which imply limitation come to

00:46:49.800 mind at once when the matter of academic freedom is discussed. The first is the matter being taught

00:46:54.320 true or false. And the second, if it is false and presented as such, may one prudently suppose that a

00:46:59.980 good and not evil end will eventuate from its exposition. The true and the good, this is the,

00:47:07.160 write this one down, highlight this one. The true and the good then are the natural limitations of

00:47:13.660 freedom. This is not an area for opinion because opinion does not delineate for by its very nature,

00:47:19.020 it packages the false with the true. Nor is this a matter for experimentation because the prudent man

00:47:23.920 does not experiment with suicide. Suicide, that we're seeing academic suicide happening on our campuses.

00:47:30.400 We're seeing national suicide happening in Washington, D.C. The president of Georgetown,

00:47:35.580 we should take note because Georgetown is no longer sending us their best, okay? Older presidents of

00:47:40.900 Georgetown had it much more correct. If the United States is to continue in the Western tradition,

00:47:45.920 which made it great, it behooves those of our citizens interested in the present and future of

00:47:49.680 this nation to search out and support the educational institutions, which are still striving to maintain

00:47:54.760 that tradition. A tradition which was grounded on freedom limited by a belief in God, by faith in the

00:48:01.320 omnipotence of truth and the beneficence of justice. In a word, a tradition that freedom springs from

00:48:08.340 truth, but the truth is rarely freedom's offspring. If our educational systems are going to make any

00:48:16.440 sense, they're just a microcosm of the country, you can really expand it out. If our country is going to

00:48:21.740 make any sense, then we're, we know we're going to have limitations on our freedom. There are always

00:48:27.300 limitations on freedom because this is a limited world. Are we going to have the leftist limitations,

00:48:32.820 which are anything that's good and true and beautiful, you got to get rid of, and anything

00:48:36.940 that's filthy and perverted and false and ugly, you're going to exalt? Or are we going to have

00:48:41.420 these limitations? Limitations, belief in God, as our founding fathers believed, as John Locke believed,

00:48:47.480 as John Milton, as all these great thinkers of, of the era in which our country was founded,

00:48:53.700 limited by truth, that there is such a thing as truth, and we can know it. I bet these Georgetown

00:49:00.060 law students don't necessarily agree with that, that there is such a thing as justice. Are we going

00:49:04.640 to have a country limited by truth, justice, and the American way, to quote Superman, or are we going

00:49:12.140 to have the opposite? I, for one, would like that good old, I want the Superman country. I want the

00:49:19.620 truth, justice, and the American way country. Whatever we got now, people don't really like it. You can,

00:49:23.200 you can tell it by the polls. So let's go back in the other direction, and that's going to involve

00:49:27.600 telling the students who are crying and rending their garments to keep their mouths shut, to go

00:49:32.940 listen, to heaven forfend, educate themselves, so that we are all capable of freedom. I'm Michael

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