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00:00:00.000 Mary Trump has announced that she will be pulling her podcast from Spotify in protest of Joe Rogan

00:00:07.020 talking to scientists that she doesn't like, which is pretty shocking news for all of us.

00:00:13.140 Mary Trump has a podcast. Mary Trump, the whiny niece of the former president.

00:00:20.680 There are now so many podcasts that even the whiny niece of the former president,

00:00:25.800 who has never done a single thing in her entire life other than be the whiny niece of the former

00:00:32.800 president, has one. It's too much. It's too much. There's too much noise. This is the final straw.

00:00:40.320 I am calling for a complete and total shutdown of all new podcasts until we figure out what

00:00:46.620 the hell is going on. I'm Michael Knowles. This is The Michael Knowles Show.

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00:03:15.620 today, visit constantcontact.com. Mary Trump is pulling her podcast, informing people for the first

00:03:22.460 time that Mary Trump has a podcast. I hate to say I told you so, but I told you so. I said the other day

00:03:31.580 while I was humming Joni Mitchell songs, I had Neil Young all weekend. I had, you know,

00:03:36.580 old man, take a look at my life. I said, why am I, what do I have Neil Young in my head? Oh, right.

00:03:41.080 Because he got himself in the news by opposing Joe Rogan. I said, at this point, we just have

00:03:47.220 forgotten artists and even not, not only has-beens, but never, never was-es are now just using this Joe

00:03:56.220 Rogan non-troversy to get their names out there. And then Mary Trump proved it. Now, for the first

00:04:02.540 time ever, people have heard of the Mary Trump podcast. We are in the pure opportunism phase of

00:04:08.660 the Joe Rogan non-troversy. And it's not just coming from hippies from the 60s, and it's not just coming

00:04:14.840 from political hacks trying to cash in on their family name. It's coming from the White House. Jen

00:04:21.100 Psaki from the White House press briefing room pressured Spotify to censor Joe Rogan even more

00:04:29.360 than they already have. Our hope is that all major tech platforms and all major news sources for that

00:04:35.020 matter be responsible and be vigilant to ensure the American people have access to accurate

00:04:39.240 information on something as significant as COVID-19. That certainly includes Spotify. So this disclaimer,

00:04:45.800 it's a positive step, but we want every platform to continue doing more to call out

00:04:50.360 mis- and disinformation while also uplifting accurate information. I mean, look at the facts,

00:04:56.100 right? You are 16 times more likely to be hospitalized if you're unvaccinated and 68 times

00:05:01.340 more likely to die than someone who is boosted if you're unvaccinated. That's pretty significant.

00:05:06.680 And we think that is something that unquestionably should be the basis of how people are communicating

00:05:11.160 about it. But ultimately, you know, our view is it's a good step. It's a positive step,

00:05:17.380 but there's more that can be done. The fact that Spotify will now put a disclaimer

00:05:21.320 on only those podcasts of Joe Rogan that I don't like, only the podcasts that dissent from the

00:05:29.060 liberal orthodoxy, that's a good step. The fact that Spotify is now pressuring Joe Rogan to have more

00:05:35.320 Democrats and establishmentarians and libs on his show, that's a good step. But we need more.

00:05:40.820 I never again want to hear the phrase, build your own platform. This is something that the

00:05:50.300 squishes have really relied on in recent years and the libs as well, both the libs and the squishes.

00:05:56.400 They very often team up. Build your own. Sure. Of course we need to build our own platform. We have

00:06:00.380 built our own platform. I'm here. I'm here on one of the platforms that we have built, but that's not

00:06:04.340 enough. Okay. We also need to rein in the government and we also need to rein in the much more powerful

00:06:11.380 platforms that are working in collaboration with the government. What Jen Psaki is showing you in that

00:06:18.760 clip is that the free marketplace of ideas ain't so freaking free, is it? Spotify is, I guess,

00:06:29.460 kind of acting of its own accord in, in response to the workings of the market. I guess that's kind

00:06:36.680 of true. They've got a bunch of libs who are protesting them. And so they're, they're reacting

00:06:40.140 to that. They're also reacting to the president of the United States who is using the full force of

00:06:45.780 that office to pressure a private company, to censor a political dissident, not even that much

00:06:51.460 of a political dissident, just a guy named Joe Rogan, who is a liberal, who is a left winger,

00:06:56.280 who kind of sort of dissents from the dominant ruling class sometimes. And the president of the

00:07:02.600 United States is using his power to get the private company to shut Joe Rogan up.

00:07:08.100 That, that problem is not nearly going to be fixed by win hearts and minds in the culture.

00:07:12.960 You need to wield the government to punish the other political actors who are doing this and to

00:07:20.600 bring into line the so-called private companies that are very often working in collaboration with

00:07:26.280 the government. It was very fashionable in the sort of conservatism talking points of the 1990s and

00:07:35.620 2000s to draw a clean distinction between private enterprise and the government. Big government,

00:07:42.320 bad. Private enterprise, good. Even if it's big corporations, even if those corporations are

00:07:46.660 basically just products of the government. Google, is Google a private corporation?

00:07:51.240 Sort of, kind of. I mean, it was founded with a lot of government money actually and developed with

00:07:58.200 a lot of government money and it reacts very closely with the government. They work together

00:08:02.700 on a lot of things, but so it's sort of private. It's sort of public. It's sort of the culture.

00:08:07.260 It's sort of politics. We need to wield all the power we can. The left is wielding all the power

00:08:13.800 they can. Joe Biden is, through his spokesman, trying to censor Joe Rogan, a UFC-loving, DMT-taking,

00:08:25.700 pot-smoking podcaster. Okay? We need to fight back too or we're going to get completely rolled over.

00:08:34.160 Liberals have been complaining over the past few days about how too many people are watching Joe

00:08:39.080 Rogan. Not enough people are watching CNN. Of course, every single sensible person in America

00:08:44.860 trusts Joe Rogan more than they trust CNN. And now there's even more reason for that. There is

00:08:50.020 trouble a-brewin' at CNN. The president of CNN, Jeff Zucker, has been fired. Why was he fired? Well,

00:08:58.400 there's two stories. There's the story you're reading about in the press and then there's the real story.

00:09:03.740 Jeff Zucker, the ostensible reason why the president of CNN was fired is because he was

00:09:08.960 stupping his deputy, Allison Gallist, and that this was a consensual office relationship.

00:09:18.220 Jeff Zucker is no longer married. Neither is Allison Gallist, though previously they were married.

00:09:23.520 And so it was consensual and it was an office relationship, but they didn't disclose it.

00:09:27.240 And because Jeff Zucker didn't fill out a form with HR, that's why he got fired.

00:09:31.980 If you believe that, I have got a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you. Obviously, there's a lot more to it.

00:09:39.700 There's a lot more to it because CNN already knew about that relationship.

00:09:43.920 There's a lot more to it because apparently a lot of people in media knew about that relationship.

00:09:48.100 Katie Couric wrote about it in her book. In Katie Couric's memoir, she wrote about how Jeff Zucker,

00:09:53.640 she heavily insinuated that Jeff Zucker and this woman, she named the woman, were obviously

00:09:59.160 stupping one another. The affair appears to have broken up both marriages and then

00:10:05.860 Zucker is now being ousted because of it. It gets even dirtier than that. Allison Gallist,

00:10:12.140 the paramour here, the executive at CNN, was the former communications director for Andrew Cuomo.

00:10:18.460 Andrew Cuomo, whose brother Chris Cuomo was one of the anchors at CNN. Andrew Cuomo,

00:10:24.620 who was built up into a fantasy of the greatest governor in America, almost exclusively by CNN.

00:10:30.900 CNN. So dirty, so corrupt. And then the cherry on top of the corruption Sunday is everyone at CNN

00:10:38.680 apparently knew about this. A lot of other people in the media knew about this and nobody reported on

00:10:43.420 it. Other than Katie Couric mentioning it in her book. This story perfectly, perfectly encapsulates

00:10:52.260 the corruption of the establishment media. It really illustrates two things. One,

00:10:59.200 the corruption of the establishment media. You can't trust these people because they obviously,

00:11:04.080 they are literally sleeping with one another, right? They are literally in bed with one another.

00:11:07.980 The politicians and the media executives and the whole morass, the whole liberal establishment.

00:11:16.600 And they're not going to cover things. Do you think it is just a coincidence that the network

00:11:22.480 that employs Cuomo's brother and Cuomo's former communications director, where that communications

00:11:27.300 director is sleeping with the president of the network, that they would just happen to give

00:11:31.000 unduly positive coverage to the governor of New York, Andrew Cuomo? Do you think it's just a

00:11:35.360 coincidence? No, it's a very corrupt arrangement. And this isn't the only one. There are lots of

00:11:40.980 these. The establishment media is teeming with them. That's the first thing this teaches you.

00:11:45.520 The second thing this teaches you, and it seems obvious, but it bears repeating.

00:11:51.600 You need to flee from sin. I don't want to sound like a preacher, man, but you need to flee from sin,

00:11:58.400 especially sexual sin, because that's the easiest to give into. It's so basic to our nature

00:12:03.440 and it'll get you. It'll get you. This guy, Jeff Zucker, they didn't fire him because of the affair

00:12:09.600 that everyone knew about. They fired him because they wanted him out. They used the affair as a

00:12:13.620 pretext, but he opened himself up to that. He compromised himself when he engaged in that affair.

00:12:21.040 That's what we do when we engage in sin. This is why, by the way, the libs, the rulers, want us

00:12:28.200 to just do a lot of drugs and look at a lot of porn and engage in lots of weird sex stuff and do

00:12:34.480 and do all sorts. They want to compromise us, okay, so that we're always sitting. It's just like

00:12:41.100 getting, getting compromise on somebody, okay? Governments, politicians have known about this

00:12:46.540 for many, many years. That's what happened to Jeff Zucker here. He is not the only one. He is not the

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00:14:00.320 code Knowles, K-N-O-W-L-E-S. CNN for their part, as their president is ousted ostensibly over a sex

00:14:09.320 scandal. They go on air, Brian Stelter and some other dude and that chick whose name I forget,

00:14:16.580 she's the blonde lady. They go on CNN and they basically defend Jeff Zucker.

00:14:22.780 I do just want to say something personal for a moment, if I may. And that is, I mean, I feel it

00:14:28.220 deeply personally, but also I think I speak for all of us and our colleagues. This is an incredible loss.

00:14:33.600 It's an incredible loss. Jeff is a remarkable person and an incredible leader. He has this

00:14:41.360 uncanny ability to make, I think, every one of us feel special and valuable in our own way,

00:14:48.980 even though he is managing an international news organization of thousands of people. I just know

00:14:54.600 that he had this unique ability to make us feel special. And I don't think that that comes around

00:15:00.980 all the time. And I think, again, it's an incredible loss. And I just think it's so regrettable

00:15:06.580 how it happened. If what you're reporting is true, these are two consenting adults who are both

00:15:14.060 executives that they can't have a private relationship feels wrong. It just feels wrong, doesn't it?

00:15:22.080 Wow. What a rosy picture CNN lady is painting of what happened. There are two executives. Sure.

00:15:28.260 The only reason this woman was an executive, at least according to Katie Couric's book,

00:15:32.060 is because Jeff Zucker was stupping her. That's how she got her job. That's how she got promoted.

00:15:38.080 Do you think that is fair to the other women at the network who maybe got passed over for a promotion

00:15:44.100 because they weren't sleeping on top of Jeff Zucker? Do you think that's fair to them?

00:15:49.980 Do you think we ought to promote a culture of empowering women in the workplace? If you want to

00:15:54.120 get ahead, there's one easy way to do it, ladies. Just go knocking on that door at your boss's office

00:15:59.420 and close the door behind you. That's right. That's how you can get ahead. It's two consenting

00:16:04.240 adults. Isn't that fine? Two consenting adults who were married, who broke up their marriages because

00:16:09.880 of this and created a highly unprofessional workplace dynamic. That's fine. It's just two consenting

00:16:17.600 adults. Yeah. People can consent to things that are bad that shouldn't be allowed. People do it all

00:16:24.140 the time. We shouldn't tolerate that. It's bad for them. It's bad for their marriages. It's bad for

00:16:29.600 society. It's bad for the company. But this, this is what is encouraged. And this is why you can't trust

00:16:38.240 the establishment media. You can't trust it. There is no way, even if just one aspect of this one story

00:16:49.380 were true, you could never, you could never trust CNN's reporting of Andrew Cuomo. The fact that his

00:16:56.820 brother until recently, Fredo, was one of the top anchors at their network. How are you going to trust

00:17:03.180 their coverage of Andrew Cuomo? One of the most powerful guys there is the brother of Cuomo.

00:17:08.640 The fact that one of their apparently top executives was the former communications director

00:17:13.880 for Cuomo. How are you going to trust? She, she, this woman was being talked about as a replacement

00:17:18.080 for Jeff Zucker just a year or two ago. Yes, Alison Golis, she might replace Jeff Zucker whenever he

00:17:24.220 retires. She was very high up. How are you going to trust their coverage of Cuomo? How did this

00:17:30.320 news come out? Well, the news was already leaked, but why, why would Jeff Zucker step down now? Because

00:17:35.400 apparently Chris Cuomo, this is just being reported, Chris Cuomo had audio, compromising audio,

00:17:43.240 compromise on Jeff Zucker on this issue. So they're all blackmailing each other. They all know each

00:17:49.700 other's dirt and they're all covering up for each other. And who gets screwed? You, the viewer,

00:17:53.400 you, the public, you, the people who are having information concealed from you or who are just being

00:17:58.860 outright deceived through active lies. This is just one little episode, but it's one episode that you

00:18:07.440 see countless times a day on countless issues throughout the establishment media. I sort of

00:18:16.300 feel bad for everyone in this situation because everyone did bad things and then everyone tried

00:18:23.660 to catch other people doing bad things to cover up their bad things. And it was just game theory. And

00:18:27.620 they were all just, they're, they're just sort of waiting to see who would crack first. It was a

00:18:32.180 prisoner's dilemma. And finally it did. One great way to avoid this, don't do it. I remember before I

00:18:40.520 got married, I asked Andrew Klavan, that old sage, I asked him for advice. I said, how do you have a good

00:18:45.680 long marriage? He says, uh, it's pretty simple. Don't sleep with other people and then don't get

00:18:52.060 divorced. There you go. That's how you have a good long marriage. Don't stop other people. Don't get

00:18:56.400 divorced. Okay. Easier said than done. I know Drew has also made the point that every man is two

00:19:00.820 drinks and a wink away from ruining his life. So it's possible we're all tempted, but this would

00:19:05.540 be a good reason why not to, because it can come back and it really compromises you and it compromises

00:19:10.140 your integrity and it can lead to great humiliation. Speaking of liberals getting in trouble at legacy

00:19:17.460 media outlets, I've been meaning to talk about this for two days now, and we just, we've run out of

00:19:22.580 time each day, but I have to get to Whoopi Goldberg. Whoopi Goldberg made a very impolitic comment about

00:19:31.160 the Holocaust. She has now been suspended. There are calls for her to be fired. She's furious that

00:19:37.460 she was suspended at all. Here's the comment in case you haven't heard it. Well, also, if you're

00:19:43.200 going to do this, then let's be truthful about it because the Holocaust isn't about race.

00:19:48.420 No. No, it's not about race. It's not about race. It's not about race. It's not about race.

00:19:58.760 What is it about? Because it's about man's inhumanity to man. That's what it's about.

00:20:05.200 But it's about white supremacy. Well, but it's not about race. But these are two white groups of

00:20:12.260 people. Well, that was after black people too. But you're missing the point. You're missing the

00:20:17.460 point. The minute you turn it into race, it goes down this alley. Let's talk about it for what it is.

00:20:23.420 It's how people treat each other. It's a problem. It doesn't matter if you're black or white because

00:20:29.120 black, white, Jews, it's how everybody eats each other. So is it if you're uncomfortable,

00:20:36.680 if you hear about mouse, should you be worried? Should your child say, oh, my God, I wonder if

00:20:42.620 that's me. No, that's not what they're going to say. They're going to say, I don't want to be like

00:20:46.820 that. I want you to pull over if you're driving. If you are watching this or listening to this,

00:20:55.100 I want you to sit down because I have, I think, the most contrarian take on this whole episode

00:21:01.240 of anyone that I have heard on either side of the aisle. While Whoopi Goldberg is obviously 100%

00:21:09.860 wrong as in historical matter, I think she kind of makes a good point. All right. I just,

00:21:15.580 I said it. I said it. I know people are going to be shocked and offended and rend their garments

00:21:20.660 and clutch their pearls. She is 100% wrong as a matter of history. Hitler very much perpetrated

00:21:28.760 the Holocaust because he hated the Jews. He viewed the Jews as a race, not just as a religious group,

00:21:35.880 but as a race. The Jews historically are a race and a religion. It's very difficult for modern people

00:21:42.160 to understand that a tribe of people and a religion of people could be the same thing because in

00:21:48.960 modernity, we don't really think of tribes anymore. We don't really think of nations anymore. We think

00:21:53.860 that any people can be part of any religion and the two are completely separated. That was not true in

00:21:59.400 the ancient world. That is not true historically of Judaism. Actually, that idea is really a product

00:22:05.240 of Christianity. When Christianity comes and St. Paul says that there is neither Jew nor Greek nor

00:22:11.060 slave nor free, but all are one in Christ Jesus. That is a pretty radical and novel idea. And so

00:22:17.400 because Christianity shaped the development of the West, it's the most important feature that shaped

00:22:22.720 the development of the West, then that's how we think of things. But that wasn't always true and

00:22:26.940 that is not the case with Judaism. So yes, Whoopi is wrong that the Holocaust was not about race. And

00:22:34.120 the Holocaust specifically refers to Hitler's genocide of the Jews. Hitler also killed millions

00:22:40.760 of Ukrainians. Hitler also killed millions of Russians. Hitler also killed lots and lots of Catholics.

00:22:46.240 Hitler also killed what, half a million gypsies, something like that. Hitler also killed lots and

00:22:51.760 lots of other people. That's not really what we're referring to with the Holocaust. They are separate

00:22:55.960 things. Hitler killed a lot of people. And he killed the Jews because they're a race. However,

00:23:03.420 the point that Whoopi makes that I really like, that I think actually is a pretty conservative point,

00:23:09.340 is that when we're talking about something, even this, you know, is extremely evil. I guess the most

00:23:15.720 extremely evil thing you can think of in modernity, the Holocaust. The essence of that evil is not race.

00:23:22.340 We are really tempted these days, especially by the left, to say that every bad thing is racism,

00:23:28.480 that racism is the most evil thing in the world. There is nothing more evil than racism. It is the

00:23:32.480 core evil. This is why the original sin of America is racism. That's the language they use. But it's not.

00:23:38.920 The original sin of America, all of the original sin of the whole world, is original sin. And it's

00:23:43.760 deeper. The issue here is that the imagination of man's heart is evil from the very beginning.

00:23:47.800 You can't boil down the evil in the world just to race. It's deeper than that. It's actually more

00:23:53.440 fundamental than that. And so Whoopi, I bet you Whoopi Goldberg would have no idea what I'm talking

00:23:59.780 about if I explained to her the implications of the things that she were saying, and if I corrected

00:24:03.560 her on the historical record. But that point is very important because if we try to boil down all

00:24:08.840 evil to race, we're going to come up short. It's much, much deeper than that. And ultimately,

00:24:15.980 it is religious. And because all human conflict is theological, you've got to get down to that

00:24:22.040 issue too. And the more that we just babble and prattle about race, the worse off we're going to

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00:27:29.400 Speaking of the Nazis, there is a riveting story in Rolling Stone. I'm serious. That's not even a joke.

00:27:38.100 I'm not being facetious. Rolling Stone, a very left-wing outlet, has a really interesting long

00:27:44.200 essay about an undercover federal agent. Here's the headline. He spent 25 years infiltrating Nazis,

00:27:54.640 the Klan, and biker gangs. It's about this Fed who would go into all these radical far-right groups,

00:28:03.840 radical, far-right domestic terrorist groups all around America, the ones who we're told

00:28:08.380 pose the greatest terror threat. We've got to be on guard. There's a Klansman around every corner,

00:28:14.520 and he would infiltrate them, and he would thwart their actions.

00:28:19.640 I think the point of this essay is that, as I've just said, there are Nazis and Klansmen everywhere,

00:28:26.520 and we've got to be on the lookout, and we've got to suppress the right wing in America.

00:28:30.240 Ironically, though, the effect of the essay, I think, is to prove all of us right-wingers correct

00:28:36.760 when we say that the Nazis that we're told about, the Klansmen that we're told about,

00:28:43.240 are very often just Feds. It's very often just Feds LARPing, live-action role-playing this Nazi stuff

00:28:49.780 and inventing a threat where none really exists or where the threat is relatively minor.

00:28:55.920 This is just from the essay. By his count, there are 600 FBI agents who are certified

00:29:01.840 undercover employees, but some of them do the work of backstopping agents, creating false

00:29:06.800 credentials and social media profiles for UCEs working in the field. So there's 600 of these guys

00:29:13.260 running around or doing their work online, 600 around the country. At one point in this account,

00:29:20.160 the undercover Fed talks about how when he was infiltrating one of these Nazi Klansmen,

00:29:26.980 whatever groups, he ran into another undercover Fed, and he only knew about the other undercover

00:29:31.940 Fed because he had heard about him somewhere. There's 600 of them, so there are a lot of these

00:29:36.080 undercover Feds, but he had heard about him. They had some connection. They said, oh, hey, look,

00:29:39.860 it's like that Spider-Man meme. Oh, hey, it's you. Oh, hey, it's you.

00:29:43.680 This is actually how I imagine most Klan meetings to go. Whatever Klan meetings still exist in

00:29:50.600 America, whatever Nazi meetings there are, I suspect that when they show up, it's kind of

00:29:57.760 like that Fed picnic. Remember the rally for the justice for January 6th that happened a few months

00:30:02.620 ago, and the only people who showed up were journalists, liberals, and undercover federal agents,

00:30:09.660 and like one Klansman from Appalachia who didn't get the memo. But all, probably 99% of the people

00:30:17.760 at this thing, and it was so obvious, there were photos going around of all these dudes wearing the

00:30:22.240 same logo-less shorts and t-shirts. They're all wearing their Garmin watch. They've all got Fed

00:30:27.560 sunglasses on. They all got a nice fresh haircut probably in the basement of Langley. They're all

00:30:32.600 checking their sixes. A lot of situational awareness. These guys blended in like a,

00:30:39.360 like a clown, you know, like a big colorful clown. It was so obvious. And I, and I think that's the

00:30:46.320 point here. What we have been saying for years that this threat that we're told, oh, it's the,

00:30:53.980 the racists, the Nazis, the white supremacists, it's, I think it's mostly imagined and contrived

00:30:59.900 and actually being encouraged by our federal government. And the whole point of this piece,

00:31:04.180 by the way, is to advocate for an even greater surveillance state. The whole point of the piece

00:31:09.460 is to say, this is a real problem. We need even more of these guys. We got to stamp out the right

00:31:13.400 wing. If you read it carefully, really makes, really makes the opposite point. Maybe these federal

00:31:21.820 agents who are protecting us from phantoms, maybe, maybe they're doing more harm than good. Maybe they're

00:31:27.080 the ones creating the illusion of this threat. Speaking of agents of the state, there's a parent

00:31:35.880 right now, number of parents in the North Penn school district, right outside of Philly,

00:31:41.240 who showed up to a school board meeting to report on something that if this mother had not had courage,

00:31:48.260 we probably never would have heard of. This came from libs of TikTok, that a fifth grade teacher

00:31:52.500 lined up students by their race, these are 10-year-olds, and made the white kids apologize

00:31:58.340 to the black kids. I actually pulled my daughter out of AM cult because of the fifth grade teacher

00:32:04.580 who lined those students up from whitest to darkest, made them turn around, and the white ones needed to

00:32:10.840 apologize to the black ones. Now, do not tell me that did not happen, okay, in this district. You need to

00:32:17.140 put an end to this. Kids do not see color, and you are segregating them, and you are separating them.

00:32:24.220 This is not okay. Do something or get out of those damn chairs. I love it. I love her righteous anger,

00:32:32.340 and I love the point that she's making. This is not okay. The teachers who do this need to be

00:32:36.440 canceled. They need to be fired. They need to not work as teachers again. I love cancel culture.

00:32:41.320 Cancel culture is awesome when it's for the right reasons. All cultures cancel. Every single person

00:32:46.420 supports cancel culture. Plenty of people who pretend to hate cancel culture right now are calling to,

00:32:51.920 they're calling to cancel Whoopi Goldberg. Maybe they have good reason to. I think there are plenty

00:32:56.560 of good reasons to ostracize people. There are standards. There are taboos. There are consequences

00:33:01.680 for what people say. Of course, certainly that should be enforced against this teacher, without question.

00:33:09.400 Now, it actually ties in with the Whoopi point a little bit, too, because let's take away all of

00:33:13.740 Whoopi's stupid historical commentary on the Holocaust. Let's just get to the ostensibly

00:33:20.020 deeper philosophical point she's trying to make, which is that evil doesn't just boil down to race.

00:33:25.080 It boils down to man's inhumanity toward man. It really boils down to the perversion and fallenness

00:33:30.140 of man's heart. If it is the case that it's really all about race, all evil in the world is about race

00:33:39.260 and white supremacy, then the exercise that this teacher is doing in her classroom is totally

00:33:44.520 justified. If it's really, if the, all the problems of the world stem from white supremacy, then yeah,

00:33:49.980 the white kids probably should apologize to the black kids. Shouldn't they? And they should be

00:33:53.860 taught that whiteness is bad and blackness is good and white people should always feel ashamed of

00:33:59.740 their skin color. And you've got to root out, out damn spot, out damn whiteness, right? If,

00:34:04.940 if the racial ideology of the left is true, if it's not, if racism is merely a symptom of a deeper

00:34:14.340 fallenness of the world that is not merely about one group or some other group, but is actually about

00:34:20.280 the man in the mirror and our own cracked, broken hearts that are corrupt from the beginning,

00:34:26.500 well, then this exercise doesn't make any sense at all.

00:34:29.180 And the answer to this, by the way, is not the, what the libs are doing right now is they're saying

00:34:36.820 one group, good, the other group, evil. What a lot of people want all the kids to be told is you're

00:34:42.600 all good. You're all good people deep down. What the kids should really be taught is no, you're all

00:34:46.920 fallen. You're not totally evil. You're not 100% irredeemable, but you're not good either. You're

00:34:54.700 fallen and you need humility and you are a sinner. That's the nature of this world. And we need to

00:35:00.040 practice virtue and we need to be on guard against sin and we need a redeemer. That is what, I know

00:35:05.960 that sounds so radical now to say that. That's what education was until like five minutes ago,

00:35:11.420 by which I mean 60, 70 years ago when the secularists really took over the educational

00:35:17.740 institution. And what happened since that time, our education has crumbled and little 10 year olds are

00:35:22.420 being told to feel ashamed of themselves for the color of their skin. This is a lot deeper than

00:35:27.320 just some stupid racial theory. This requires an entire overhaul of how we see ourselves and our

00:35:33.840 country. Starting to think these teachers are the baddies. You know, these teachers who are, they're

00:35:38.560 such good people, but they seem to, they actually on closer inspection seem to be the baddies. There is

00:35:44.680 an abortionist who was tweeting out the other day her defense of abortion. She tweeted out, she said,

00:35:52.300 being against abortion, uh, if you are against abortion, you do not have the moral high ground.

00:35:59.380 Yes, you do. You do because it's, because it's immoral to support abortion and it's moral

00:36:04.820 to oppose abortion. And so just on that issue alone, you do have the moral high ground if you oppose

00:36:10.280 abortion because abortion is evil. So then she responds to her own tweet and she says, being against

00:36:16.440 abortion is being for reproductive coercion. So I'll repeat, if you're against abortion,

00:36:21.200 you do not have the moral high ground. The lady doth protest too much, methinks. When people are

00:36:27.980 really confident of something that they believe in, they don't have to constantly repeat it in an

00:36:31.940 angrier and angrier way. If you're, if you're confident, if you're secure, if you have a good

00:36:40.080 formation of what you believe, then you just say it and it's clear and you don't need to yell and

00:36:44.400 scream and cry about it. You just say it. I looked at this woman's bio and herself bio in her bio.

00:36:51.640 She writes do-gooder, do-gooder in her own bio. The thing about do-gooders is the real do-gooders

00:36:59.260 don't say that they're do-gooders. They don't. They don't have to. They just do good things.

00:37:06.940 The people who say, I'm a do-gooder, I'm a good person. I'm so virtuous. I'm so wonderful.

00:37:14.920 They're saying it, one, because I think they're trying to convince themselves and two, because

00:37:18.760 it's not manifestly true from their behavior. But, but saying so will not make it so. The left

00:37:27.560 believes that language, because there's no such thing as objective reality, if we just say certain,

00:37:33.940 if we just say that a man is a woman, then the man really will be a woman. They'll just say,

00:37:39.100 if we just say that vicious people are virtuous people, then they really will be virtuous people

00:37:44.040 and vice versa. But that's not the case. That's not the case. Reality has a say too. I saw

00:37:50.440 one of the more disturbing stories, not because anyone died or it was particularly gruesome.

00:37:57.680 It was a disturbing story about where our culture is headed. It was a local news story

00:38:01.260 about the metaverse, about how we're all going to plug into virtual reality and Mark Zuckerberg is

00:38:06.320 going to control the world. And we're going to leave the world built by God. And we're going to

00:38:10.480 go into a world built by Mark Zuckerberg. Isn't that going to be so much better? And in the news story,

00:38:15.300 they said the future, not just of commerce, not just of schooling, but the future of church

00:38:21.360 is going to be in the metaverse.

00:38:24.420 Metaverse is an online platform where people can use virtual reality headsets to transport themselves

00:38:29.520 to any realm they wish, including church. Jackie Banez explains the appeal of digital

00:38:35.540 worshiping in the metaverse. I believe the future of the church is the metaverse.

00:38:40.660 A growing number of people are turning to the metaverse for their religious services

00:38:44.820 as folks pop on virtual reality headsets and partake in digital church.

00:38:50.740 Let me have someone read verses 19 through 21.

00:38:53.900 But just because it's virtual doesn't mean it's less interactive than going to a physical house

00:38:58.500 of worship. If anything, VR church participants say it enhances their religious experience.

00:39:04.460 I was able to see a rendering of the verse I was reading, which made scripture much more meaningful

00:39:12.820 for me. And it's so much more than scripture readings. Baptisms are also taking place in the

00:39:19.100 metaverse. The rebirth that you got through Jesus Christ. Do you want this?

00:39:22.640 Yes, I do. Absolutely.

00:39:24.260 I baptize you now.

00:39:25.400 But this kind of worshiping isn't just for the tech savvy.

00:39:30.620 Baptisms are not taking place in the metaverse. That's the problem. Maybe people think that when

00:39:36.600 they log into their video game and have their little character put their head under the little

00:39:40.420 digital water that they're being baptized. They're not. They're not. They're not going to church,

00:39:46.100 even, in the video game. They're playing a video game. Our faith, Christianity, is an incarnational

00:39:57.240 faith. It's so incarnational that the second person of the Trinity, the divine logic of the universe,

00:40:03.560 took on flesh. He was incarnate of the Virgin Mary. Conceived by the Holy Spirit, incarnate of the

00:40:15.120 Virgin Mary and became man. And became man. At that point, when you're reciting the creed

00:40:20.580 in Christianity, you actually get down on your knees. Because this is the central fact that God

00:40:28.400 became man, took on flesh. And what these heretics are trying to do is take the flesh away.

00:40:36.520 And this has huge, even if you're not Christian, even if you're not particularly religious,

00:40:40.180 this has huge implications for your politics. Charlie Kirk the other day got in trouble with

00:40:44.700 Media Matters because he made a point that I've made on this show dozens of times, that transgenderism

00:40:49.340 is such a big focus of the left, not only because they're creepy, perverted sexual theorists on the

00:40:55.940 left who want to upend all traditional sexual mores, but because they want to get rid of the flesh.

00:41:03.600 They want it to be a stepping stone into transhumanism. They want to say that your body doesn't matter,

00:41:10.460 your location doesn't matter, your family doesn't matter, your nation doesn't matter,

00:41:13.960 real reality doesn't matter. We can just be transported wherever we want in the metaverse.

00:41:18.880 Go into your pod, work on your laptop, and isolate yourself. That's what this is about. A denial of the

00:41:25.500 importance of the flesh. But you can't have that. Real community, real worship, real life happens with

00:41:34.960 your body. Not on a couch, not with some goggles on, not living in some dystopian hell created by

00:41:40.860 Mark Zuckerberg. Take the goggles off. Go into real life. The sunshine is beautiful and the church is

00:41:47.620 much more beautiful too. Now speaking of the real world, I see why the Democrats want to deny the real

00:41:56.960 world. Because they are basing their political views largely on fantasies. Fantasies like the idea that

00:42:03.740 baby's not a baby, that a man can become a woman. Fantasies of how the economy is going to work.

00:42:09.780 Fantasies about how geopolitics. So they like fantasy much more than they like reality. That's

00:42:14.460 why they're denying reality. In reality though, Joe Biden is a very unpopular president. In fantasy,

00:42:22.960 Joe Biden's the most popular president ever who got 700 bazillion votes in 2020. In reality,

00:42:28.820 Joe Biden, according to the majority of voters, is the worst president ever.

00:42:36.900 Rasmussen and the National Pulse conducted a survey on people's opinion of Joe Biden.

00:42:44.880 Question was, who's the worst president in history?

00:42:49.480 54% of likely voters believe that Joe Biden will be remembered as one of the worst presidents in

00:42:57.940 American history. Only 25% think his presidency will be remembered as about average. When the

00:43:10.200 same question was asked about Donald Trump, it was a much smaller number who thought he would be one of

00:43:15.280 the worst presidents in history. 43% said that. When it was asked about Obama, it was even lower.

00:43:19.980 33% said that. What's weird is it's not just the Republicans skewing this, even among Democrats.

00:43:29.420 More Democrats ranked Biden as one of the worst presidents, as ranked him as one of the best

00:43:35.500 presidents. 28% said he'll be one of the worst. 27% say that he will be one of the best. This is bad

00:43:42.880 news for Biden. In part, you've got this issue of when presidents are in the hot seat, they're less

00:43:50.020 popular than they are remembered. So this is why Obama, only 33% say that about him. This is why

00:43:56.460 Bill Clinton's image has been rehabilitated. It's why George W. Bush's even to some degree has been

00:44:00.800 rehabilitated. But that doesn't explain everything away for Biden. Presidents are supposed to be

00:44:06.540 popular at the beginning of their administration. Then they get less popular over time. By the time they

00:44:12.480 leave office, usually they're relatively unpopular, then it bounces back again.

00:44:17.380 Joe Biden's been in office for one year and he's already one of the least popular presidents

00:44:23.520 in American history. Why is that? I think it's very simple. I think it's because you can't deny

00:44:32.060 reality forever. I think that Joe Biden began his campaign on lies. The very first claim of Joe

00:44:39.140 Biden's presidential campaign is that Donald Trump called Nazis very fine people at Charlottesville.

00:44:44.100 That didn't happen. It was completely made up. And the lie was that Donald Trump's a white

00:44:49.520 supremacist. Then the lie was that he was going to completely shut down the virus. Then the lie was

00:44:53.740 that the economy was going to be great. Then the lie was that there was going to be peace and harmony

00:44:57.500 around the world. Then the lie was foreign affairs were going to get better. And then none of that

00:45:01.480 happened. Everything got worse. This is one of the great conservative consolations is that you can't

00:45:09.160 deny reality forever. You can put your little goggles on. You can shut out the world. You can

00:45:13.900 try to just live in your fantasy. You can't do it forever. Eventually reality is going to come back on

00:45:19.780 you. So how are the libs explaining all of this away? Why Biden is so deeply unpopular, why things are

00:45:27.000 really not going well, why everyone seems, seems to really dislike this guy. According to Brian

00:45:32.100 Stelter, according to CNN, it's, it's the obvious answer. It's the answer. It's the cause of all the

00:45:37.940 evil in the world. It's racism. High conflict is a force that causes people to lie awake at night

00:45:45.240 and fear for the future. And I can see this kind of conflict right now with a looming Supreme Court

00:45:51.320 confirmation battle. I guess I could call it a confirmation process. Maybe I should, but I default to

00:45:56.600 the word battle because that's the way it's portrayed in the press. And look, maybe it won't

00:46:00.740 really be a battle. Some conservative activists are saying they're not planning to go scorched earth

00:46:05.900 against President Biden's nominee to replace Justice Stephen Breyer. Since whoever the nominee is

00:46:12.480 will not change the balance of the court. But let's be honest. Fox wants a fight. Right wing radio and TV

00:46:19.760 wants a fight. They need a fight over the Supreme Court. They're already starting a fight that's rooted in

00:46:26.300 white identity politics. All the Fox's primetime shows are outraged that Biden has committed to

00:46:31.600 nominating a justice who is black and female. There it is. It's rooted. What's it rooted in?

00:46:37.560 What's the root of all of this evil, all this tension, all this conflict, the root white racism.

00:46:42.880 This is why guys, this is why I'm sort of willing to give Whoopi Goldberg at least a little bit of

00:46:50.000 grace here. Because yes, she was totally wrong about the history, but at least some person

00:46:55.920 in the establishment is, is admitting that not the root of all evil in the world is not race,

00:47:03.060 that there's actually something deeper than race. You can be, you can be wrong about the historical

00:47:07.700 point, but, but correct about the deeper rot that undergirds human conflict. Stelter won't do that.

00:47:16.500 The reason we are told the reason that conservatives are going to oppose Joe Biden's inevitably radical

00:47:22.580 leftist court nominee. Who's going to want to enshrine mass baby slaughter in law, in imaginary

00:47:30.140 ink in the constitution. The only reason we oppose that is because of racism or whatever.

00:47:36.720 Even when Joe Biden is admitting that his nominee is going to take this radical view of the constitution,

00:47:42.720 he admitted it yesterday. There's always a renewed national debate. Every time we nominate any president

00:47:48.960 nominates it justice, because the constitution is always evolving slightly in terms of additional

00:47:55.860 rights or curtailing rights, et cetera. And it's always an issue. The constitution's always evolving

00:48:02.060 slightly. Oh, because the constitution's a living, breathing document, right? It's not, it's not. It's

00:48:06.280 a piece of paper. It's very much dead. It's got words on it. The words have meaning. We can read those

00:48:10.760 words. Our lowercase constitution, the way that we all kind of live together, that is evolving. That's

00:48:16.040 always changing. But the cap, the whole point of the capital C constitution on paper is that it

00:48:21.060 doesn't change. It's just text. And if you want to change it, you can, you need to go through the

00:48:25.540 amendment process. And so there's a built-in way to change the constitution, but it is not steadily

00:48:31.460 always necessarily evolving. So what Biden's saying is I'm going to nominate someone who's going to

00:48:37.420 completely ignore the constitution and read into it whatever whims and caprices she has. And what does

00:48:43.620 Brian Stelter say? It's just white identity politics. It's not white identity politics.

00:48:49.480 If it were, that would only be a response to leftist identity politics, whether it be

00:48:55.560 them, the left ginning up black identity politics, Hispanic identity politics, any other kind of

00:49:01.420 identity politics. That comes first. There was a report from Pew Research that showed that white

00:49:07.560 people in America have the lowest racial consciousness of any group by a lot. It's about 15% for white

00:49:12.360 people. It's over 50% for every other group. So please don't prattle onto me about the scourge of

00:49:17.680 white identity politics. It barely exists. And these battles, by the way, only happen from the

00:49:22.880 Democrat side. It started with Robert Bork. Then it went to Clarence Thomas against a black man, by the

00:49:27.320 way, Democrats, Joe Biden. And then it went to Brett Kavanaugh. Those are, that's the only place where

00:49:33.500 this high conflict is. It's total projection from the left. And it's not, it's not primarily or

00:49:41.380 ultimately about race. It's about the way we view ourselves as a country. It's about the way we view

00:49:46.940 the constitution. It's about the country that we want to live in. It's about the way that we view

00:49:50.760 ourselves. The Democrats have done a very, very good job of reordering the way that all of us view

00:50:00.220 ourselves and the way that all of us view our countrymen. But reality does creep in, in the end.

00:50:06.580 Reality, the reality is dawning on people. Is that enough to lead to a political upheaval? One can hope.

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