Ep. 943 - Trump Was Right About Another “Conspiracy Theory”
Summary
A little over a year ago, President Trump sat down for an interview with Leslie Stahl in which he complained that the Democrats and the Deep State spied on his presidential campaign. She dismissed the claims as "baseless" and "absurd." Fast forward to today, and we know exactly what happened.
Transcript
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A little over a year ago, President Trump sat down for an interview with Leslie Stahl
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in which he complained that the Democrats and the deep state spied on his presidential campaign.
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And Leslie Stahl was having none of it. She pushed back. She dismissed the claims.
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The biggest scandal was when they spied on my campaign. They spied on my campaign.
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There's no real evidence of that. Of course there is. It's all over the place.
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Leslie, they spied on my campaign and they got caught.
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Can I say something? You know, this is 60 Minutes and we can't put on things we can't verify.
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You won't put it on because it's bad for Biden.
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We can't put on things we can't verify. Leslie, they spied on my campaign.
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Well, we can't verify that. It's been totally verified.
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No. It's been, just go down and get the papers.
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And they got caught. And you will see that, Leslie. And you know that,
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No, no, no. La, la, la, no. This is 60 Minutes. This is totally crazy.
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You're a conspiracy theorist. How dare you make such a whoops, whoops. Here it is.
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Turns out he was totally right. Totally 100% right. As of just a few days ago,
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we now have firm proof that not only did Hillary Clinton affiliates spy on Donald Trump when he was
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a candidate, but they even went so far as to spy on him when he was president,
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all in a desperate effort to frame him for colluding with the Russians,
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something Democrats have been doing for 100 years. According to special counsel,
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the government's evidence at trial will also establish that among the internet data tech
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executive one and his associates, exploited was domain name system internet traffic pertaining to
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one, a particular healthcare provider, two, Trump Tower, three, Donald Trump's Central Park West
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apartment building, and four, the executive office of the president of the United States.
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Trump reacted to the news in exactly the way you would expect, saying, quote,
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this is a scandal far greater in scope and magnitude than Watergate,
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and those who were involved in and knew about this spying operation should be subject to criminal
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prosecution in a stronger period of time in our country. This crime would have been punishable
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by death. Classic Trump pushing the window of acceptable speech rightward, getting people to
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accept prosecution as the moderate position with execution as the further right solution. And by the
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way, he's right on that front too. Espionage can be a capital offense,
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and spying on the sitting president is about as serious as it gets. So we now know that the
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Democrats themselves did basically everything they accused Trump of doing. We know that Trump has
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been proven right on some of his wildest claims, sitting there with Leslie Stahl, oh no, this is crazy,
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it's a conspiracy theory. Some of his wildest claims, completely correct. Who knows how many more
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wild claims he will be vindicated on, especially now that we know the difference between a conspiracy
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theory and the truth is about six to 18 months. We know this is one of the most egregious abuses of
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power in U.S. history. And we know that not only are the Democrats not the responsible and patriotic
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adults in the room that they've made themselves out to be, but their behavior is somehow even more
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info kit now. Not only was Trump right about the spying, he didn't go far enough. The reality was
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actually even more depraved than what Donald Trump accused his opponents of engaging in.
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You want to talk about depravity. It's Valentine's Day, so I was hoping we could talk about sort of
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higher romantic notions of love, mature, deep, rightly ordered notions of love.
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But we've got to talk about Joe Biden's new energy official who is in charge of nuclear waste in
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America. You want to talk about, people aren't talking about, and I feel like we should all be
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talking about the leather daddy dog fetishist that Joe Biden just put in charge of America's
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nuclear waste. The man's, I don't even want to say his name. Because I don't want to embarrass him
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personally, except I guess I wouldn't be embarrassing him personally. You know, I wouldn't want to reveal
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someone's personal sins needlessly. That's not something I want to do. But in this case,
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it's not a personal sin. It's a very public, very creepy scandal for someone who is not in
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any way shy about this kind of behavior, who is now in a fairly powerful position in the U.S.
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government. So I guess I'll say his name. His name is Sam Brinton. He is the new deputy assistant
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secretary of spent fuel and waste disposition at the office of nuclear energy at the DOE. So this is a
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pretty serious position. And, and Sam Brinton identifies as a, and this is in his own public
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biography, as a non-binary man who is, who engages in something called puppy play, where, which I,
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I guess is sexual. I guess it's sexual, but I don't, it's sexual in a very strange, like he has men
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who pretend to be dogs and he pretends to be their owner. And then for much of the, this activity,
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they're not, it's all sexual, but it's not like explicitly sexual until, until it is. It's really
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weird. I've, we've sometimes talked about this. People write into this show a lot and say, you know,
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I look at porn and I don't want to look at porn, but I'm really addicted to this stuff. And, and one
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of the things that happens is that you, you know, you look at, it's just like naked ladies on the
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internet. And by the end, you know, you're looking at, um, you know, two chickens doing calculus and
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somehow that's sexual, but you don't really know how that's sexual, but it, but it is, it's still
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part. So that's, that's basically what this guy is into. And he brags about this. He gives classes
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on this sort of thing, on all various, uh, fetishes and kinks and strange behaviors. He gave an interview
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to the student newspaper at RPI, Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, where, uh, Brinton,
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this is according to the newspaper quote throughout the entire talk. Brinton was open about his
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experiences, the kinks he partakes in and the nature of his relationships. He left us with
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countless anecdotes, like how he enjoys tying up his significant other like a table and eating
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his dinner on him while he watches Star Trek. Me, I like brunettes, you know, that's kind of one of,
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and, and this guy likes to tie up his sexual partners like they're a table and eat sushi off
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of them while he watches science fiction. In, in the old days, this guy would have been a huge
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blackmail risk because he has all these weird sexual behaviors that he's indulging all the time
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and people would find out about it and then they could blackmail him. Now he's not really,
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he's not really a blackmail risk because it's all public. So there's nothing to blackmail,
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but that is really, really degraded. It's really, no one, no, if this man were your father,
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I don't think that, or you're your grandfather. I don't think somebody would say, you know,
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you know, my grandfather, I so admire him. He fought in world war two. That's right.
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And my grandfather, he worked at the coal mines and it was tough work, but he earned a living for
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our family and he put his sons through school. And, and then here I am today, his grandson is say,
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oh wow, Michael, that's really interesting. Yeah. My grandfather liked to dress up in leather and
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whip other extremely perverted men who dressed up like doggies and feed them a bowl of water.
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Yeah. So our, you know, our grandfathers, aren't we so proud of them? Grandfathers,
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right? Aren't they? They're people to look up to. No, you would be extremely embarrassed and ashamed
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of this because it's very shameful behavior and it's not in any way dignified. And previous,
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I'm not even saying, I'm not even saying that this guy is so bad because he's got some disordered
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sexual desires. It's a fallen world. Lots and lots of people have disordered sexual desires. I'm not,
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but in a normal, healthy society, the right, the thing that you would do is repress those desires
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because they are shameful. To, to quote Norm Macdonald, one of the great ethicists and moral
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philosophers of our age, sex is a filthy, shameful thing that is obviously only meant for procreation.
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Okay. And this is not, when you, when you just spend your time indulging in fantasies and childish
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delusions, that's, that's not a distinguished life. Okay. That's not something to write home about.
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There was, there was a poet, a sort of modern poet who said the thing about sin,
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even beyond how bad it is. And it, you know, it harms people and harms yourself is just such a waste
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of time. But that's what we're living in today. We're living in an age where adults, fully grown
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adults will spend hours and hours and days and days and weeks and weeks dressing up in costumes and
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playing pretend and doing all sorts of weird, creepy sex stuff. That is childish behavior for a
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the most prominent ads and the halftime show, obviously, all it was selling was nostalgia.
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Oh, do you remember when you were a kid? Oh, do you remember when everything was just about
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indulging your own desires and delusions and fantasies? Kind of like this kid working,
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this kid, he's a fully grown adult, working at the Biden Department of Energy who pretends that he
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is a doggy or he pretends that his sexual partners are doggies and it's really creepy and weird and
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none of this should be encouraged publicly. But it's the same old, it's just indulging in childish
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delusions. And what the Super Bowl was selling was all nostalgia. Nostalgia is history after a few
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drinks, okay? Nostalgia is all the happy moments that we remember or imagine and none of the tough
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moments and none of the things we've overcome to become the adults that we are today. The creepiest
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ad of the entire Super Bowl came from Facebook, which has now renamed itself Meta because it's
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trying to expand beyond just a regular old social network where you can like people's photos and catch
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up with old friends. They want to expand into a whole universe, the metaverse, where you put on your
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you sit in your apartment alone, you put on your goggles and you enter into Candyland where you
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can do whatever you want. You can fly around. You're not allowed to grope people anymore. That
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was a problem in the beta testing, but they've gotten rid of that. So if you want to do that,
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you got to go to the weird doggy dungeon with the Department of Energy guy. But when you're in
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the metaverse, you can just relive your past as though time has never moved on.
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So here you see there's the like little stuffed animals playing old timey songs and then time
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moved on. The diner is closed. The stuffed animal musicians go to a pawn shop. They grow up. Now
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they've got, they've been discarded. It's not fun anymore. A little long in the tooth.
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It was just in a museum. It's sad. So much more boring than their fun youth. They were all
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playing those old songs from the 80s. Oh, but now they're in the magical metaverse world. They put
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the goggles on and no one has gotten any older. Everyone's the same young age they were in the 80s.
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And the diner, well, the diner doesn't exist anymore, but in this imaginary world,
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the diner does exist. MetaQuest 2. Go back and be a child.
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Here's my public service announcement for anybody who is tempted to indulge this kind of stuff.
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Grow up, grow up, grow up, stop being a child and be an adult and accept responsibility and stop being
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so freaking selfish and immature. Oh my gosh, people, people, this is so true. It's so it's
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clearest on the weird sex stuff, like the weird guy playing around and pretending he's a dog at the
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Department of Energy. But it's just, it's true in our whole culture. The fact that now 20 year old
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college students say they need a safe space with crayons and puppies, it's the same, it's the same
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problem. The fact that now you have employees at major companies who say they need space to cry.
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They need crying rooms. They do. They, they, they say this at law school, Georgetown Law School,
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the dean of the law school said to what, 25, 26, 30 year old students, you need, you need space to cry
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if your feelings are hurt. This is the, the same thing you're seeing with people refusing to get
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married among millennials and especially Gen Z. They're still a slightly young for this, but you're
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starting to see some of the data. No one wants to get married. And with the millennials, they're now
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old, even though they all pretend they're still 17 years old, but they're older and they, they still
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won't get married. And I'm not saying you have to get married. Marriage isn't for everybody, but they,
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they're not, they're not consecrating themselves to religious life. They're not, they're not moving
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forward. They're just remaining in a perpetual adolescence. That meta ad, it was fine. It was a well-produced
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ad, but frankly, I prefer the original version of that ad.
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I won't grow up. I don't want to go to school. I don't want to go to school. Just to learn to be a
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parent. Just to learn to be a parent. And recite a silly rule. And recite a silly rule. If growing up
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means it would be beneath my dignity to climb up free. I'll never grow up, never grow up, never grow up.
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Not me. That's the, that's the song of the millennial generation. I'm a millennial, but
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that's the, that's what we all sing. I won't grow up. Even this phrase, you know, millennials use this
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phrase adulting the first time they pay taxes or whatever they say. I'm boy, I'm adulting.
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Yeah, you're 40. I hope you're adulting. The people who, who refuse to move out of their parents'
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home. Not because even they have particularly close relationships to their parents, just because
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they don't want to pay bills. They don't want to go move on. They say, well, I can save money. Yeah.
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Because you're not paying your bills because you're not acting like an adult. You should act like,
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this is my PSA. It's, it's, I'm not, I don't want to be overly harsh here. I want to harsh anyone's
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mellow, but you need to grow up because if you don't grow up, you're going to end up as a 35 year
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old puppy fetishist. Okay. You are, you are because, because if you think that it's okay
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in your adulthood during a time when you should be maturing and taking on responsibilities and
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contributing to your country and leaving your kids who hopefully you're, some, some of us are
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having kids. I hope, I hope some people in this generation or the country is just going to
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completely collapse, but hopefully you're leaving them a better country than you had. Hopefully you're,
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you got to enjoy a nice little childhood. Now you're going to give back.
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But if you are living under the delusion that it's okay just to indulge whatever fantasies
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and whatever delusions and whatever weird desires that you have, then you're going to end up dancing
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around in weird costumes, pretending that you're six years old, except creepier because it involves
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sex stuff. When you're in your thirties or forties, don't do that. It's weird. It's degraded. It's
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embarrassing. Don't, you can't go back. You can't go back to never, never land.
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Okay. Don't go. Oh my gosh. You can't go to the hundred acre wood. All right. It's over.
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You know, do you know that song back in poo corner? Can't help me if you can. I want to go
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back. Kenny Loggins, right? This song is about, he's graduating high school and he says, I want to
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go back to my childhood, but I know I can't, it's not possible. So that's the way it goes. Well,
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when he rewrote the song later on in life, he said he got to go back to poo corner. He got to go
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back to his childhood by participating in his own children's childhood. So now he's in a different
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role. Okay. It's not that you can never have these similar joys or imagination or, but you have to do
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it in the role that is appropriate to you. And that is not in leather smacking around grown men who are
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barking. If you won't grow up, you can't be free. That's the, if you won't mature and grow and be
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educated, then you can't be a free person. All right. And, and that's what the ruling class is
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banking on. The liberal establishment is consistently undermining our freedoms, our political freedoms
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to make our own choices about how we want to live and to set our own standards. For sure,
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they're undermining that. And they're, they're often doing it in the name of individual freedoms.
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Well, the people of Tennessee can't pass a law outlawing the weird, creepy, leather daddy puppy
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stuff because, you know, that would undermine the natural right that people have to act like
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weirdos. No, you don't have that right. But, but by the way, the, the ruling class is taking away
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your individual freedoms too. Joe Biden just laughed at the very notion of individual freedom.
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You were interviewed a year ago about the Superbowl and you expressed hope that come this year,
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that they'd be able to fill the stands again with people. And that apparently is going to be the
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case. However, many of those people won't be wearing masks despite the local law in Los Angeles.
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What is your message to people who want desperately for this to be over and to be able to resume the
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lives that they remember? Well, look, um, I love how people talk about personal freedom.
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If you're exercising personal freedom, put someone else in jeopardy, their health in jeopardy.
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I don't consider that being very damn with freedom.
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I love how people, if you were scripting this in some science fiction movie, you were writing Star
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Wars port 75, you would have the bad guy sound like this and have that voice and say these things.
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Ha ha ha, you're, you're a personal freedom. Oh, and I hear about your personal freedom.
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They don't like it. They don't like it. The Democrats never liked it. I know that some people
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are going to respond and say, but, but I thought the liberals were all for personal freedom. I thought
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the Democrats were all the party of personal freedom. No, they never were. They never were.
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That was always an instrument to control people. Oh yeah. You've got the freedom to search for
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whatever you want on the internet, but we're going to be spying on you and we're going to see all that
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data and we're going to use it to try to undermine you. Oh yeah. You're free to do whatever creepy
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stuff you want to do on your own. Oh yeah. You're free to do, you're free to indulge all of your
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basest appetites and then become slaves to those appetites. Yeah. You're free to smoke crack here.
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We're even going to send you a crack pipe, but then that'll make you a free person, right? No,
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it'll make you completely incapable of self-government, which is exactly what they want.
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Democrats are beginning to lift the mask mandates. Not because the public health officials have observed
00:24:47.780
that the masks are mostly useless. They've been doing that since the beginning. Fauci admitted
00:24:51.480
they don't do very much. Sometimes they hurt during an epidemic, but Democrats still pushed
00:24:56.240
for it. The CNN medical expert, Leanna Wu, said weeks ago that the cloth masks are nothing more
00:25:03.560
than facial decorations. Still, the Democrats kept up on the face masks, but now they're getting their
00:25:09.060
poll numbers. And the poll numbers on these mask mandates are really, really bad. And the Democrats
00:25:13.360
are looking like they're going to get clobbered in November. So all of a sudden, Democrat governors,
00:25:17.560
are saying, no, we're not the party of mask mandates. No, we, no, we hate mask mandates.
00:25:21.900
We're actually, we're going to get rid of the mask mandates because of how successful our policies
00:25:26.080
have been. And the only problem with this pivot, with this strategy is that Joe Biden is,
00:25:32.580
he's lost a few steps. He's not really with it. He's not keeping up with the new talking points.
00:25:37.300
And so Joe Biden goes on Lester Holt's show on NBC, and he's still pushing the old talking points.
00:25:42.800
He's saying, hold up, hold up, hold up. I still like the mask mandates.
00:25:47.560
Are you afraid, though, that some states and cities are moving too quickly to
00:25:54.660
Well, you know, it's, I've, I committed that I would follow the science, the science as
00:26:01.120
put forward by the CDC and the federal people. And I think it's probably premature, but it's,
00:26:10.120
It's probably premature. I followed, I followed the science. Now he doesn't follow the science.
00:26:15.280
The science is not to be followed, but he's not, he's clearly not following it anyway,
00:26:19.300
because now all of those hacks in the public health bureaucracy are saying, okay, yeah,
00:26:23.600
you can move on. You can move on because they're basically indistinguishable from the Democrat
00:26:27.920
politicians and from the liberal media. They're all working in concert together.
00:26:32.000
Joe Biden just hasn't caught up to the latest political talking points,
00:26:34.940
which is, it's a beautiful thing because he's not going to let the Democrats
00:26:38.880
get away with their, their attempted deception. They're trying to pretend that they are not now
00:26:45.460
and really never were the party that wanted mask mandates. They grudgingly accepted them,
00:26:51.620
but they never wanted them. And Biden is saying, no, we do. We do. Don't get rid of the mask
00:26:56.160
mandates. That's a Republican thing. The Republic, he's really giving you a choice. He's saying the
00:27:00.580
Republicans don't want the mask mandates. The Democrats do. Good. I hope that's on the ballot
00:27:04.620
in November. We're going to take every single seat. It's not, this is not the only place where
00:27:09.560
Democrats are undermining their own message for two, three years now. What has been one of the most
00:27:18.400
prominent animating principles of the democratic party, including especially the BLM riots and all the
00:27:27.680
criminal justice reform of recent years. It's been abolish the police, defund the police, abolish
00:27:32.360
prisons. Remember that we've heard this ad nauseum for years now. And then the Democrats got their poll
00:27:39.860
numbers back and it turns out abolish the police is not all that popular during a crime wave in a
00:27:45.960
midterm election year. And so Nancy Pelosi goes on ABC news. She tries to use all of her Jedi mind
00:27:51.240
tricks. She says, no, no, we don't, we don't want to defund the police. These are not the droids
00:27:57.400
that you're looking for. And because the Democrats control the media, she thinks it's going to be very
00:28:05.120
effective. The other thing that's weighing on people right now is rising crime. And there appear
00:28:10.900
to be some divisions among Democrats about how to handle it. Your colleague, Karen Bass, running for
00:28:15.120
mayor of Los Angeles, is trying to increase the police force in LA. Cori Bush, congresswoman from
00:28:20.100
Missouri, is saying it's time to defund the police. He's sticking by that. You're the speaker.
00:28:24.460
How do you think Democrats should address rising crime? Well, with all the respect in the world for
00:28:28.340
Cori Bush, that is not the position of the Democratic Party. Community safety to protect and defend in
00:28:35.840
every way is our oath of office. And I have sympathy. We're all concerned about mistreatment of people.
00:28:44.260
And that's why Karen Bass had the Justice in Policing Act. And we would hope to get some of
00:28:50.080
that done, whether it's no knock or joke hold or some of those issues, even if we can't get it all
00:28:56.100
done. But make no mistake, community safety is our responsibility.
00:29:04.140
Nice try, Nancy, but I don't think you're really persuading me. Notice she gets tripped up on her
00:29:07.920
words. She goes, look, we're all really sympathetic to defund the police. I mean, no, we're all,
00:29:13.140
we're not, gosh, we are really sympathetic. And we've all been pushing this thing for a long time.
00:29:17.120
But, uh, no, but, and then the way that George Stephanopoulos frames it is he says, look,
00:29:22.620
you got Cori Bush on one hand, who is still pushing to abolish the police, defund the police.
00:29:26.960
But then you've got Karen Bass on the other hand, Karen Bass, who's a Democrat congressman.
00:29:31.100
She is a communist. She's like an actual communist who was a member for a long time of the actual
00:29:35.960
communist organizations. And Karen Bass is now running for mayor of LA. Karen Bass wants to
00:29:41.640
increase police funding. Uh, does she, I don't, I don't buy that for one second. And Nancy Pelosi
00:29:47.780
apparently doesn't either because she points out that Karen Bass has previously supported soft on
00:29:53.060
crime bills to make it harder to prosecute criminals, to make it harder to arrest criminals.
00:29:57.300
So that the two polls here, the pro crime and the weak on crime Democrats, they're both extremely weak
00:30:02.920
on crime. They both wanted to defund the police. They both wanted to make it harder to arrest people.
00:30:07.380
And Nancy Pelosi went along with this for a long time. And, and so did other very prominent
00:30:12.880
Democrats. AOC, what did she say? She said, defund the police means defund the police.
00:30:19.040
Abolish the police means abolish the police. It doesn't mean move a little funding around here
00:30:23.540
or there. It means get rid of that funding. Rashida Tlaib, the George Harrison of the squad.
00:30:30.360
You've got AOC is Paul McCartney. She's the most mainstream. Ilhan Omar is a little more radical.
00:30:35.200
She's John Lennon. Ayanna Pressley, everyone forgets about. She's Ringo. So you got Rashida,
00:30:39.200
who is George Harrison. And Rashida Tlaib comes out in an interview with Axios just a few months ago
00:30:44.680
and said, yes, I want to abolish all prisons. And the, the reporter couldn't, he said, well,
00:30:50.620
you want to, you want to abolish all federal prisons? You want to let all murderers, rapists,
00:30:56.060
serial killers out? And she said, well, uh, uh, basically, hummina, hummina, hummina. Yes.
00:31:00.360
Yes. Yes, I do. And they know that this is destroying their poll numbers. And so they're
00:31:06.560
trying to run away from it. And Nancy Pelosi is saying, don't believe you're lying on. She says,
00:31:10.820
it's not the position of the Democrat party. Well, I don't know, darling, when it's the position of a
00:31:14.720
huge number of very prominent congressmen, when it's the position of major Democrat mayors and
00:31:20.920
governors all around the country, then I think it is the position of the party. And you're going to try
00:31:24.740
to lie through your teeth and just hope that people aren't paying attention in an election year.
00:31:29.100
But I think the people probably know better. They're, they're flipping on all their policies
00:31:34.060
now because of how unpopular they are. Beto O'Rourke, he's my favorite one. He's running for
00:31:38.340
office for, I think the 75th time in 18 months. He's, remember he, he ran for president. He ran for
00:31:47.780
Senate, lost, ran for president, lost. Now he's running for governor of Texas. He's probably going
00:31:52.580
to lose. Beto O'Rourke, what did he say a few years ago? It was very clear. They said, are you going to
00:31:58.160
try to take away people's AR-15s? And he said, hell, hell yes, I'm going to take your guns.
00:32:06.340
Hell yes, we're going to take your AR-15, your AK-47. We're not going to allow it to be used
00:32:11.540
against our fellow Americans anymore. I'm not interested in taking anything from anyone.
00:32:17.080
What I want to make sure that we do is defend the second amendment. I want to make sure that
00:32:21.320
we protect our fellow Texans far better than we're doing right now. And that we listen to law
00:32:25.620
enforcement. Hmm. Is that the same, is that the same guy? He went, so 2019, you say, hell yes,
00:32:33.400
I'm taking your guns. Then 2022, he says, we're not taking guns from anybody. I want to, I want to
00:32:37.880
defend the second amendment. I'm a pro second amendment guy because now I'm running for governor
00:32:41.700
of Texas, not the Democrat nomination for president. I'm pro. Okay. So listen, maybe he changed his mind.
00:32:47.560
People can grow. People can change. People can mature. They don't usually do that these days,
00:32:52.200
but maybe they can. Except that just, just one year ago, back in, not even one year, even less
00:33:00.060
than one year ago, in, in just a few months ago, Beto O'Rourke was saying that he stood by his call
00:33:08.060
to take away people's guns. Look, we, we are a state that has a long, proud tradition of responsible gun
00:33:16.940
ownership. And most of us here in Texas do want, do not want to see our friends, our family members,
00:33:23.260
our neighbors shot up with these weapons of war. So yes, I still hold this view.
00:33:29.360
Yes. Yes. I still hold this view. Hell yes. We're going to take away your AR-15s. And he's trying to
00:33:33.280
have it both ways. So he, he started the shift it back in November. So he said, I love the second
00:33:39.840
amendment. I just hate the most popular gun in America. So yeah, we're going to defend your
00:33:47.600
abstract second amendment right in principle, but in practice, we're going to take away the most
00:33:51.960
popular basic gun in America. So the issue here is not that he changed his views. I'm happy when
00:33:59.880
politicians flip-flop from the wrong side of an issue to the right side of an issue. I'm basically
00:34:04.740
pretty happy about that. The issue here is that Beto is obviously insincere. And if he somehow
00:34:11.020
became governor of Texas, he would obviously push for strong gun grabbing legislation.
00:34:18.600
And I think the people see through that, especially with him. I mean, he's just such a joke.
00:34:23.000
That guy, you know, he can go back to skateboarding around the Whataburger. He does not,
00:34:26.900
he looks like a child. He looks, gets back to what we were talking about at the top of the show.
00:34:31.240
It gets back to people wanting to go back to their nightclub in the 1980s. People wanting to go
00:34:37.000
back to childhood and play around and pretend they're puppies, except in a much, much creepier
00:34:42.380
way, I hope, than they did when they were kids. It goes back to that nostalgia. I won't grow up,
00:34:48.800
I won't grow up. Beto O'Rourke is the Never Neverland candidate, running for governor of Never
00:34:55.040
Neverland. Texas ain't Never Neverland, at least not now, at least I hope. People want politicians
00:35:00.460
who will toughen up on criminals and not toughen up on law abiding citizens. What the Democrats have
00:35:08.500
been offering, especially in this gun issue, is we're going to go really hard after law abiding
00:35:13.400
gun owners and we're going to let criminals who are using illegal guns out of prison. And then we're
00:35:18.440
going to abolish prisons altogether. That seems backwards, doesn't it? Which is why Republicans
00:35:23.240
have just introduced, I would say, my favorite law ever. Well, that's not true. My favorite bill
00:35:31.500
that has been introduced in Congress recently is the Michael Knowles Public Health Protection
00:35:35.960
Pledge, which was just introduced as a House resolution by Representative Paul Gosar. It's a
00:35:41.080
pledge to investigate, subpoena, investigate, and then defund Dr. Fauci. It's a great pledge.
00:35:47.360
Your congressmen, your senators can sign on right now as co-sponsors. Tell them to, write them,
00:35:53.160
tag them, say sign on to the Michael Knowles Public Health Protection Pledge, sign on to Paul
00:35:57.560
Gosar's pledge that he's put into Congress and make sure that we get rid of Fauci. That's a little bit
00:36:02.400
of a sidebar. But other than the Michael Knowles Public Health Protection Pledge, my favorite bill
00:36:07.860
that has been introduced into Congress, possibly ever, is a bill to ban the government from paying for
00:36:16.260
crack pipes for drug addicts. The bill is called the Halting the Use, see if you can follow this one,
00:36:23.920
Halting the Use of Narcotics Through Effective Recovery Act of 2022, also known as the Hunter Act
00:36:34.940
to ban crack pipes. Really, really great stuff. Politicians love a good acronym. This one,
00:36:42.400
as good as they get, absolutely hilarious, but also a good law. Also a good law.
00:36:50.120
The Democrat theory of justice that is very prominent today, not just among the Democrat
00:36:57.040
party proper, but among the whole American left, which now controls all the institutions,
00:37:01.740
is that the way to have a good society is to let people do whatever they want.
00:37:07.180
That's not true. You're not really allowed to start businesses. You're not really allowed to
00:37:12.620
go to church. You're not allowed to walk around without a mask. You're not allowed to avoid getting
00:37:16.360
17 jabs of an experimental drug. So it's not that you're allowed to do absolutely whatever you want.
00:37:21.340
I guess the theory on the left and among Democrats is that you have some kind of right to engage in any
00:37:27.700
destructive behaviors that you want, whether they're destructive on drugs, whether they're
00:37:33.220
destructive on weird sex stuff, whether they're destructive on, even in your local community,
00:37:40.780
looting, going and stealing Nike shoes, not prosecuting a lot of these crimes. They're all
00:37:47.020
for that. The Democrats think that's how you're going to have a flourishing society.
00:37:52.640
The Never Never Land party. Imagine if kids were allowed to do that. Kids are not allowed to do that.
00:37:58.360
Kids are told, don't do the bad thing. Naughty, naughty. Do the good thing. Good job. Good job,
00:38:02.680
little boy. And then you grow up and then hopefully you can govern yourself. But something
00:38:06.520
about this generation or a lot of recent generations, they never learned that. They
00:38:11.300
never agreed to grow up. And if we want to hold on to whatever tenuous little thread of a country
00:38:18.140
that we have left, we're going to need to grow up and we're going to need to say, no, don't smoke
00:38:22.960
crack. No, we're not. We can't mail out people crack pipes. We've got to say, no, naughty,
00:38:28.980
naughty, naughty crackhead. Don't smoke that crack. Don't know. Don't dress up like a puppy and prance
00:38:35.420
around and then take over America's nuclear waste. No, you've got to grow up. You've got,
00:38:40.660
I hate to be the bad guy. I don't want to sound like, I don't want to sound like mean old daddy here,
00:38:44.660
but not daddy like in the sense of what the puppy guy is, would say daddy. I'm talking about like
00:38:49.760
actually like father knows best. There is such a thing as reason and moral conscience and justice
00:38:54.900
and virtue. And you got to pursue that if you want to have a real society. Speaking of Republican
00:39:01.960
legislators, Republican legislators are weighing in now on an important international issue. I'm not
00:39:08.780
talking about Ukraine, which is an extremely overhyped issue. I'm not talking about other
00:39:14.100
places where the state department wants to go intervene around the world. I'm talking about the
00:39:18.680
one international issue that the liberal establishment, the ruling class doesn't want to talk about at all.
00:39:23.660
I'm talking about that international issue going on up in America's hat. I'm talking about the most
00:39:29.800
important worker protest of not just our lifetimes, probably the most important worker protest of the
00:39:35.160
last hundred years. I'm talking about the Canadian truckers. Senator Rand Paul, very libertarian,
00:39:44.980
defender of individual liberty, unsurprisingly. Now it's funny because Rand Paul being extremely
00:39:51.960
libertarian. He doesn't like to get involved in foreign countries and he always votes against
00:39:56.000
sanctions. He always votes against foreign intervention. But in this case, he is speaking
00:40:00.060
out and he's saying those Canadian truckers are doing great work and they're standing up for liberty.
00:40:06.960
I'm all for it. Civil disobedience. Civil disobedience is a time-honored tradition in our country
00:40:11.940
from slavery to civil rights to you name it. Peaceful protest, clog things up, make people think about
00:40:19.480
the mandates. So he's saying this is great stuff. This is civil disobedience. And some people on the
00:40:26.900
left and in the center are accusing Rand Paul and other conservatives who really like the Canadian
00:40:33.200
trucker protest. They're saying honk, honk, honk, and they're sending their support. They're accusing
00:40:38.220
us of hypocrisy because they're saying, hold on a second. Hold on a second, you hypocrites.
00:40:44.280
Back a year or two ago during the BLM riots, you were against those. You were against that sort of
00:40:49.700
civil disobedience. Pretty uncivil disobedience, by the way, when you're throwing Molotov cocktails at
00:40:55.220
federal buildings and looting Nike sneakers. But let's even grant the premise. You were against
00:41:00.300
BLM taking to the streets, but you're for the Canadian truckers. There's a guy, he writes for a
00:41:08.400
libertarian magazine. I don't even want to use that term libertarian because libertarianism has a sort
00:41:15.580
of strain of a serious tradition. And a lot of the people today who call themselves libertarians are
00:41:20.540
just not that. They call them lullbertarians sometimes because they're really incoherent and
00:41:25.200
really kind of squishy. So I do want to make that distinction. But anyway, he's a nice guy. I don't
00:41:29.480
want to go after him personally, but he made a really dumb point, which is he tweeted out, quote,
00:41:34.000
from conservatives cheering for an economically crippling worker-led blockade to liberals
00:41:40.040
essentially plagiarizing Tom Cotton's send in the troops op-ed. The trucker protests are turning
00:41:45.580
basically everyone into hypocrites. And it is hilarious. The conservatives say it's beautiful to
00:41:52.360
see people fighting injustice and standing up against mistreatment. And if they disrupt the economy
00:41:56.040
and occupy public roads, so be it. The liberals are saying, arrest them, jail the dissenters, blow up
00:42:00.100
the trucks, could not have scripted this better. You can retort, now do BLM at both groups and it
00:42:05.080
works. Amazing. And then he goes on to conclude, I think all the mandates should end and the truckers
00:42:10.160
should disperse. In the previous scenario, I thought we should end no-knock raids and also
00:42:14.720
people should stop rioting. See, I'm a good one. I'm one of the good ones. I'm, listen, I'm much
00:42:21.460
smarter than all of the conservatives talking about the vaccine mandates. And I'm much smarter than all of
00:42:25.880
the liberals talking about abolish the police. I'm, they're, you're just hypocrites. Because if you,
00:42:32.800
if you support BLM, then you should support the truckers and vice versa. If you support the truckers,
00:42:38.700
then you should support the violent mobs roving through the streets, right? Wrong. No. Do you know
00:42:46.440
what I find hilarious? I don't find this hilarious. I don't think it's hypocritical at all. What I find
00:42:50.440
hilarious is that some people are only now figuring out that politics is not merely about procedural
00:42:58.740
norms, but also about substantive ends. I'll bring that down to earth. What I mean is, yes, BLM
00:43:08.680
and the Canadian truckers both protested. That's true. They were both protesting.
00:43:15.400
That's the procedural similarity. But they were protesting for very, very different things.
00:43:25.180
BLM was protesting to abolish the police. BLM was protesting to let criminals run roughshod over
00:43:31.720
our society. BLM was protesting to make it harder to arrest criminals. The Canadian truckers are protesting
00:43:40.080
because they don't want to be forced to take an experimental drug with noted recorded side effects
00:43:46.360
to maybe sort of, but probably not protect against a virus that doesn't pose a grave threat to most
00:43:52.400
people. Those are different things. And it met, this is, I sometimes hear this whenever you talk
00:44:00.000
about religion and politics, which you inevitably have to do because all politics ultimately comes
00:44:04.580
back to religion, whether you want to admit it or not. All politics comes back to these moral
00:44:08.440
questions. Sometimes they'll say, wait a second, Michael, hold on. If you, if you apply religious
00:44:16.160
and moral thinking to, to politics, if you apply your Christian worldview to politics, well, you're
00:44:23.400
no different than ISIS because ISIS also applies their religious worldview to politics. So yeah, that's,
00:44:31.520
yes, that's true. Now let's go a step further. It's right. You're, you're right. All people have
00:44:37.080
some kind of religion. Even if you think you don't have a religion, you do have a religion. You talk
00:44:40.520
about things like human rights and free will and the relationship of man to the, you always have
00:44:45.200
some kind of religious view. Yeah. So people talk about religion, but the religions are different.
00:44:52.520
They're different. They have different views of the world and they have different implications for
00:44:56.100
politics and society. Yeah, you're right. And Christianity and Islam are different and Christianity and
00:45:02.320
Islam and leftism are very, very different. And it matters. The substance matters too.
00:45:08.740
This is so hilarious that some people would support the truckers, but not BLM. No, it's,
00:45:12.780
it's just to be expected because those are different groups with different aims,
00:45:16.800
with different views of society. That's why it's perfectly ordinary and normal to support one
00:45:21.300
and not the others. It's very, don't, it's very shallow view of politics, my friends.
00:45:27.560
And it's not, you are seeing a kind of shifting of some political alliances right now, for instance,
00:45:33.760
you're seeing the liberal establishment really push for war in Ukraine, but it's not just
00:45:38.280
conservatives pushing for war in you or pushing against the war in Ukraine. It's, it's some liberal
00:45:44.440
media figures too. Jake Tapper was just pushing back on the national security advisor, Jake Sullivan.
00:45:49.440
You've been warning about the Russians using a false flag operation to justify invading Ukraine.
00:45:54.380
That's a strong claim to make without presenting a shred of evidence. Is there anything more
00:45:57.980
you can tell the public, a public that might be justifiably rather skeptical of claims about
00:46:04.260
intelligence? Well, let me make three points on this. First, we're not putting forward this
00:46:10.960
intelligence to start a war, which has happened in the past, Jake. We are putting forward this
00:46:15.580
intelligence to stop a war. And I think that fundamentally gives it at the outset, a different
00:46:20.900
level of credibility. Okay. We've, we've seen them do this before. Okay. And, but Jake Tapper's
00:46:25.880
just sitting there. He's saying, what evidence do you have? You're not presenting any evidence.
00:46:31.580
So who knows? Maybe Putin invades Ukraine. Maybe he doesn't. Well, but that's sort of beside the
00:46:37.500
point. The issue is that the deep state has lost all credibility. That's why people don't believe
00:46:41.620
the state department briefings. That's why people don't believe when the Pentagon says, we got to go in
00:46:45.760
there, we got to send in the troops. It's because they've lied. They've bungled a whole lot of foreign
00:46:50.080
interventions and they've lied. And now it's just a group of, of puppy fetishists and domestic spies
00:46:56.120
who are undermining the sitting president. That's not our fault. You guys squandered your credibility.
00:47:00.840
That's why the people are making what might be a last stand at self-government. That's, that's what
00:47:06.800
all of this political pushback is about, whether it's the Canadian truckers or whether it's what you're
00:47:12.520
seeing going on ahead of the 2022 elections. What country are we going to be? Are we going
00:47:16.860
to regress to perpetual childhood? I won't grow up. I won't grow up. Or are we going to decide to
00:47:21.060
mature, grow up and take back control of our country? I'm Michael Knowles. This is the Michael
00:47:25.040
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Today on the Matt Walsh show, the Super Bowl last night was one long parade of leftist hypocrisy.
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We'll count the waves today. Also, we'll review some of the weird and woke commercials that companies
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spent millions of dollars to air during the broadcast. Plus, Nancy Pelosi officially slams the
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doors shut on the defund the police movement. And Joe Biden speaks out against racism in the NFL.
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At least, I think that's what he was doing. It's hard to tell anymore. And our daily cancellation,
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we'll deal with the latest leftist innovation. It's called platonic conscious co-parenting.
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All of that and more today on the Matt Walsh show.