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00:00:00.000 Amnesty or no amnesty? That is the question. Whether tis nobler in the minds of voters to

00:00:06.580 suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous headlines, or to take arms against a CNN of

00:00:12.140 troubles, and by amnesty end them. Amnesty, amnesty. Amnesty, perchance more dreamers. Ah,

00:00:20.400 there's the rub. For in that lawless pandering, more dreamers may come when we have shuffled

00:00:25.520 off this constitutional order. That must give us pause. Two DACA illegal aliens, so-called

00:00:31.820 dreamers, according to Democrats, have been arrested in separate incidents for human trafficking in my

00:00:37.480 own sunny state of California. One arrest occurred last Wednesday when Torrey Pines Beach resident

00:00:43.980 called the cops for suspected trafficking. Borders agents found the driver, a 20-year-old dreamer,

00:00:49.780 as well as two Mexican nationals, when he was smuggling them in his car. Another 22-year-old

00:00:56.260 illegal alien, also a dreamer by Democrat Lights, was arrested in Campo, California, also for charges

00:01:01.160 related to human trafficking. California dreaming means you won't be safe as long as you're in LA.

00:01:06.420 All of this comes as Democrats in Congress desperately try to ram through a bill to legalize

00:01:11.180 on the low end 800,000 illegal aliens brought to the U.S. as children, but far more likely upwards of

00:01:16.620 3.6 million illegal aliens. We will analyze Democrat dreams of amnesty and electoral dominance point

00:01:23.300 by point, lie by lie. Then, Philip Wegman, Ariel Davidson, and Amber Athey join the panel of

00:01:28.520 deplorables to discuss the State of the Union throughout history, the six Democrat State of

00:01:32.860 the Union rebuttals this year, six, probably more by the time I finish this show, and Democrat

00:01:37.580 sacramental view of late-term abortion. I'm Michael Knowles, and this is The Michael Knowles Show.

00:01:46.620 So much to get to today. The trouble with euphemisms is that eventually reality catches

00:01:54.280 up with them, and then you get the Chico Marx line, who you going to believe, me or your

00:01:59.240 own eyes, your own lion eyes. Democrats have labeled a massive group of illegal aliens dreamers,

00:02:05.240 and they're only referring to illegal aliens brought to the United States when they were

00:02:09.120 minors. No fault of their own, they say. Their parents' fault. These are the people

00:02:13.960 unconstitutionally protected by Barack Obama's DACA program. The trouble with DACA is that

00:02:19.000 it only protects a certain group of illegal aliens brought to the U.S. as minors. It only

00:02:23.300 protects those who were born after June 15, 1981, have lived in the U.S. continuously since

00:02:28.440 June 15, 2007, and registered for the program between June 2012 and September 2017. Trouble

00:02:35.760 is, that covers nowhere near all of the illegal aliens brought to the U.S. as children.

00:02:40.500 Steny Hoyer, Democrats' House Minority Whip, even admitted as much when he pointed out that

00:02:46.080 the euphemism dreamer and the technical term DACA recipient are not a distinction without a

00:02:51.780 difference. There is a difference between those two things. Democrats want to pretend there aren't.

00:02:55.640 Two weeks ago, USA Today gave the fuller story. The real number of illegal aliens brought over as

00:03:00.040 children is around 3.6 million, four and a half times as many as Democrats admit in all of their

00:03:05.980 legislative maneuvering. That is an estimated third of all illegal aliens in the U.S., and that

00:03:11.300 doesn't count the millions of immediate family members who are already citizens. That's a convenient

00:03:17.300 omission, since amnesty for the Dreamers would be a dream come true for Democrats. According to Pew

00:03:22.120 Research, Hispanics are five times as likely to identify with the Democrat Party as with the GOP.

00:03:28.820 Even among registered voters, the trend holds. There are well over four times as many Hispanic voters

00:03:34.260 registered with the Democrats as with Republicans. Even for Hispanics who don't identify with either

00:03:39.440 party, they are two and a quarter times more likely to lean toward Democrats. Native-born Hispanics

00:03:45.060 are 4.4 times as likely to identify with Democrats. Foreign-born Hispanics are 5.6 times as likely to

00:03:53.460 identify with Democrats. And that includes Cubans who are Republicans. My favorite group of immigrants,

00:03:58.560 the Cubans, because they bring good cigars and culture and vote for Republicans. That even includes

00:04:02.360 them in that number. Ronald Reagan used to say that Hispanics are Republicans, they just don't

00:04:07.420 know it yet. That's because they work hard and go to church, two traits that are anathema to

00:04:12.060 Democrats. He may have been right. Hispanics born in the U.S. are slightly less likely to identify with

00:04:18.440 Democrats as those who were born outside the U.S. But the data show it's still going to take a long

00:04:23.460 time for Hispanic voters to realize that they're Republicans. And if we're going to give amnesty to 3.6

00:04:29.980 million new likely Democrat voters, there may not be a Republican party around by the time they do

00:04:34.860 realize it. There are some interesting data among how party affiliation changes over time. So foreign-born

00:04:41.500 Hispanics who've been here less than 10 years are just under three times as likely to identify

00:04:46.820 Democrat. Probably because they got here during Barack Obama's terrible administration and they

00:04:51.860 realized his party has nothing to offer to the country other than division and envy. That number

00:04:56.960 though jumps way up to 8.75 times as many Hispanics who've lived in the U.S. for 10 to 14 years

00:05:04.620 identifying as Democrat. 8.75 times as likely. That number holds around 8.2 times as many Hispanics

00:05:13.300 who've lived here 15 to 19 years identifying as Democrat. Then it drops back down a little bit to

00:05:18.660 a still terrifying 5.4 times as many Hispanics who've lived in the U.S. for 20 years or more identifying

00:05:24.500 as Democrats as those who identify as Republicans. Well over five times as many identifying as

00:05:30.000 Democrats. Any way you slice it, amnesty means electoral death for Republicans. Democrats even

00:05:36.560 admit as much. That's why they want it so bad. Earlier this month, a memo leaked from the Center

00:05:40.680 for American Progress Action Fund explaining that amnesty for illegal aliens constitutes, quote,

00:05:46.320 a critical component of the Democratic Party's future electoral success. That memo was co-authored by

00:05:51.720 former Hillary Clinton communications director, Jennifer Palmieri, and it was sent around to

00:05:56.300 allies calling on Democrats to, quote, refuse to offer any votes for Republican spending bills

00:06:01.960 that do not offer a fix for dreamers and instead appropriate funds to deport them. Barack Obama's

00:06:08.420 former domestic policy director, Cecilia Munoz, insists, quote, the right policies to be as generous as

00:06:15.640 possible. We know the success of DACA. It's good for the country and this has overwhelming support

00:06:22.060 from around the country, from people on both sides of the aisle. There's no reason to limit who is

00:06:28.140 eligible. Typically for an Obama policy advisor, absolutely nothing she said is true. According to

00:06:33.520 a late 2017 poll by Morning Consultant Politico, Politico, it's a fake news organization and I just

00:06:39.980 pronounced their name wrong, so that's fake news of fake news. But according to Morning Consultant

00:06:44.340 Politico, Politico leans left, by the way, but even according to them, just 29% of Americans say

00:06:50.600 giving illegal aliens brought to the U.S. under the age of 18, giving them amnesty should be a policy

00:06:56.760 priority. Just 29%, 71% of Americans do not want amnesty. Incredibly, just 44% of Democrat voters

00:07:06.460 say amnesty for DACA recipients should be a priority for Congress to say nothing about the 2.8 million

00:07:12.360 additional illegal aliens who would receive amnesty through any real DACA deal, any real deal that's

00:07:17.800 on the table. That means that even the majority of Democrats oppose amnesty even for the Dreamers

00:07:24.780 and the DACA and the people brought here as children. In recent years, the U.S. foreign-born

00:07:29.360 population has also reached record highs, hitting 43.2 million in 2015. So anybody who tells you,

00:07:36.460 we don't let immigrants in, we're not letting any immigrants in, we have a terrible policy on

00:07:40.040 immigration. That isn't true. We are at record highs. That number has steadily climbed since 1965

00:07:45.720 when famed drunk driver Ted Kennedy sponsored legislation replacing the national quota system

00:07:51.320 with our currently incoherent immigration regime. Since that time, the number of immigrants living

00:07:57.200 in the United States has more than quadrupled. Since that Kennedy law, Ted Kennedy, one of the worst

00:08:03.320 politicians in American history, since his law, the number of immigrants living in the U.S. has more

00:08:08.060 than quadrupled. Immigrants today account for 13.4% of the total U.S. population, triple the immigrant

00:08:14.780 share of the U.S. population that we had in 1970. The only time the foreign-born percentage of the

00:08:19.980 population was this high was in 1890, after a half-century period that gave us four and a half

00:08:26.180 million Irish immigrants, including many wonderful families, including my wonderful family and also the

00:08:31.340 Kennedys. Lest our opposition to amnesty be considered excessively partisan, remember that amnesty is a

00:08:37.960 terrible idea on constitutional and humanitarian grounds as well. Barack Obama's executive amnesty,

00:08:43.400 which kicked off this entire debate about the Dreamers, is unconstitutional. Any way you slice

00:08:49.000 it, it's unconstitutional. The president does not have the authority to subvert democratically enacted

00:08:54.120 immigration law. He doesn't have the authority to erase the national borders of the United States.

00:08:58.780 And obviously, it goes without saying, he does not have the right to illegally fill the country with

00:09:04.620 people who are exceedingly likely to vote for his own party. Now, as a matter of federal spending

00:09:09.920 and taxpayer resources, we're told immigrants are great for the country. They might be great for the

00:09:15.280 country, but on those grounds, not so. Immigrant-led households are far more likely than native-led

00:09:20.920 households to receive welfare. According to a study by the Center for Immigration Studies, which advocates

00:09:25.940 lower levels of immigration to the U.S., the majority of immigrant-led households receive at least one kind of

00:09:31.800 welfare benefit, which could include any number of them because we have way too many federal welfare

00:09:37.940 programs. But it could include Medicaid, food stamps, housing assistance, school lunches, on and on and on.

00:09:43.680 That number drops to just 30% for households led by native-born Americans. The numbers increase for

00:09:49.200 houses with children, but the comparison still holds. 76% of immigrant-led households with children

00:09:54.700 receive welfare compared with 52% of native-led households with children. So you might say those

00:10:02.880 numbers are far too high all around. Of course, that's a good argument for shrinking the government.

00:10:06.780 Fortunately, the Trump administration is doing just that, but the trend still holds. Anybody who tells

00:10:11.140 you otherwise, not telling the truth. How about on crime? We're told that illegal aliens don't commit a lot

00:10:16.860 of crime. Those numbers are not true. According to a study from the Crime Prevention Research Center

00:10:23.440 by John R. Lott, just in Arizona alone, illegal aliens are 142% more likely to be convicted of a

00:10:31.080 crime than other Arizonans. Of course, the act of crossing into a country illegally itself is a very

00:10:37.300 serious crime that profoundly disrespects the target country. But even putting that one aside,

00:10:41.800 illegal aliens also tend to commit more serious crimes here. They serve 10.5% longer sentences.

00:10:48.400 They're more likely to be classified as dangerous. They are 45% more likely to be gang members than

00:10:53.660 U.S. citizens. Even adjusting for the fact that young people commit crime at higher rates,

00:10:58.620 because that's what we're told. We're told, well, most of these people are young. Young people commit

00:11:01.560 crime at higher rates. That's how you explain those statistics. But even controlling for that,

00:11:06.460 young illegal aliens commit crime at twice the rate of young U.S. citizens.

00:11:10.660 Lott also notes that these numbers likely underestimate the share of crime committed

00:11:15.260 by illegal aliens. The federal government notoriously is very opaque on releasing illegal

00:11:20.200 alien crime numbers. But according to the GAO, there was a 40% and 25% increase, respectively,

00:11:27.100 in criminal alien incarcerations in state jails and prisons between 2003 and 2009.

00:11:32.920 Perhaps the most damning statistic of all actually comes from the other side. It comes from left-wing

00:11:38.920 outlets, Fusion and the Huffington Post. According to a Fusion investigation, 80% of women and girls

00:11:45.340 crossing into the U.S. by way of Mexico are raped during the journey. 80%. Four out of five women

00:11:52.520 and girls who cross via Mexico illegally into the U.S. are raped on their journey. That is up from a

00:11:59.180 previous estimate of 60% given by Amnesty International. But Democrats don't care about that.

00:12:04.060 They don't care about any of that. They care about one thing, and that's winning elections.

00:12:08.600 And ironically, so egregiously, they demagogue us and they call people who are conservative,

00:12:14.280 bigots and racists and meanies and whatever they call us, for pointing out what is clearly in front

00:12:20.420 of our face. A Democrat Senate Majority Leader, Senate Minority Leader, thank goodness,

00:12:25.120 Chuck Schumer, typifies Democrats' take on this issue.

00:12:27.960 People who enter the United States without our permission are illegal aliens, and illegal aliens

00:12:33.460 should not be treated the same as people who entered the U.S. legally.

00:12:37.400 The president's decision to end DACA was heartless, and it was brainless.

00:12:43.400 When we use phrases like undocumented workers, we convey a message to the American people that

00:12:49.920 their government is not serious about combating illegal immigration.

00:12:54.000 Hundreds, hundreds of thousands of families will be ripped apart.

00:12:57.420 Now, I know you might have been confused because you heard Chuck Schumer, the same guy,

00:13:00.960 speaking on both of those times. But that was old Chuck Schumer when it was politically

00:13:05.620 advantageous to him to pretend that he didn't want to give amnesty to all of the illegal aliens.

00:13:10.060 And then now he can be honest about his opinion and say, yes, we need to give amnesty because

00:13:14.260 then we'll win all of the elections. Quite the turnaround. But then the possibility of finally wiping

00:13:18.880 out the GOP entirely is a strong incentive to evolve on the issue. Country be damned.

00:13:24.320 Let's get to our panel to see what they think about this. We have Philip Wegman. We have Ariel

00:13:29.260 Davidson. We have Amber Athey. But look, I know you want to talk to all of these people. They're

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00:16:20.540 let's bring everybody on. Phillip and Amber and Ariel, friends, countrymen, thank you for

00:16:24.520 being here. Phillip, the American people are against amnesty, but recent numbers show that even

00:16:29.960 Democrats are now against amnesty, even for illegal aliens brought here under the age of

00:16:34.580 18. This was very shocking for me to read those numbers. Why has this shift occurred?

00:16:40.320 Well, I think that there is a general support for finding a solution to the dreamer situation

00:16:46.120 on both the left and the right side of the aisle. Since 2000, for crying out loud, Republicans

00:16:50.840 and Democrats have said that they're going to do something about this. Now, President Trump

00:16:54.660 has actually put forward a deal. He's asking for about $25 billion for border security,

00:16:59.800 five more than what Chuck Schumer offered immediately before the shutdown.

00:17:03.600 And he's offering amnesty for about 1.8 million dreamers. So the question now is,

00:17:09.760 you've got a president who campaigned on one single issue, which was border security. Are Democrats

00:17:16.160 going to take him up on this offer? Because frankly, he's already getting pressure from his flank,

00:17:21.620 from conservatives on this one. So I don't think Democrats will ever get a better deal than this.

00:17:26.040 It is an incredible deal. And you're right. People, they always want a solution. We just

00:17:30.520 want to do something. We want to fix it. But we also know when you dig down into those numbers,

00:17:36.020 even the majority of Democrats don't support amnesty as a priority.

00:17:40.760 Right.

00:17:40.880 So is there any, has there been a shift in public opinion that doesn't match the shift in the

00:17:47.320 political negotiations that's going on? Well, as far as public opinion goes, I mean,

00:17:51.820 it's pretty clear that this was the motivating issue for President Trump on the campaign trail.

00:17:56.880 And you were talking a second ago about amnesty and how there's some negative opinions surrounding

00:18:01.060 that policy. I think the reason why Republicans are willing to move forward with amnesty for this 1.8

00:18:07.700 million dreamers is because they want an end to chain migration and also the visa lottery program

00:18:12.760 as a result. They're thinking we can have this compromise if in the long term we can stop the flow.

00:18:19.180 And so they've, they've put Democrats in a really difficult position. President Trump has got to

00:18:23.020 deliver that message tonight.

00:18:24.440 If they could end chain migration and build the wall and actually limit this even to 1.8 million,

00:18:30.120 it's a, it's looking through the future. It's possibly, okay, their GOP could possibly weather that storm.

00:18:34.920 But if it gets up to 3.6 million or something, if like in the 80s, they don't actually follow through

00:18:39.780 our own border security. Could be dicey. Ariel, is the solution here just to not give them amnesty?

00:18:45.420 Just not, not deport them. Not that we have to deport millions of people, but just not give them

00:18:50.440 amnesty. Why can't we just do that? Well, I think you, I think what's going to happen is it's going

00:18:55.260 to continue to be a political football. So if we don't address it, you know, at least when we have

00:18:59.920 a Republican in office, which is our best possible scenario. So I look at this situation as sort of,

00:19:04.680 you know, let's capitalize on the fact that we have a Republican in office, because I guarantee

00:19:09.680 if we have, we do have a Democrat in office and they are the ones who address the dreamer situation,

00:19:13.900 it could be entirely different. Um, I think there's also a level of cognitive dissonance

00:19:19.560 taking place in the democratic party. You have this sort of, you know, that they called. So when,

00:19:24.080 when this DACA deal was offered, you know, that there were still cries that this deal was racist.

00:19:29.260 Um, and then you have, you know, this is, this falls a long line of the Democrats sort of just

00:19:34.540 poo-pooing anything that comes out of, um, anything that comes out of the GOP brainchild. So,

00:19:39.440 you know, the tax reform was, even though people are getting thousand dollar bonuses,

00:19:43.480 you still had people on the left calling it crumbs. Um, you know, the 20, 20 week abortion ban,

00:19:48.580 which a majority of Americans would have supported. You had, um, people on the left,

00:19:54.080 especially politicians on the left calling it radical. So there's definitely some ways in which

00:19:58.200 when you just asked Phil earlier about how, you know, how is the Overton window shifted?

00:20:02.140 I do think there's some level of, there's a dissonance between how far left the progressive

00:20:07.060 element, how far left the progressive element of the democratic party has gone and how far left

00:20:12.420 the actual American population is. And I think we're going to start to see that increase, um,

00:20:17.160 especially on deals when it comes to DACA. I mean, you had various senators grandstanding on it

00:20:21.880 saying, this is my number one priority. How can your number one priority be illegal citizens

00:20:27.180 and not the citizens you serve? So to me, that is completely reprehensible. And that's,

00:20:32.660 that's pointing to a larger issue than the democratic party as a whole.

00:20:36.100 Absolutely right. It's an amazing thing to go to your constituents and say, the main thing that I'm

00:20:40.480 concerned about is everybody, but you, everybody, but you ranks higher on my list of priorities

00:20:46.460 than you do. Amber, nobody wants to deport people. That is an unpleasant business. It's kind of icky.

00:20:52.220 It doesn't look good in the headlines, but this is our country we're talking about. This is our

00:20:56.140 right to self-governance. And this is 3.6 million people. Is the responsible thing here to enforce

00:21:02.780 our laws and just deport them? Like president Trump said at various points on the campaign trail.

00:21:08.300 Well, look, the right or responsible thing to do isn't always popular. I mean, my number one choice

00:21:14.060 wouldn't be to just deport millions of people. Um, not only is it not, um, entirely feasible, but

00:21:20.700 it's obviously not the nice thing to do. But when we're talking about border security and illegal

00:21:26.460 immigration, we have to consider the consequences of our actions and the consequences of not enforcing

00:21:31.240 our immigration laws. And a huge side effect of DACA was that in 2012, we had a humanitarian crisis on

00:21:37.440 the border where a bunch of young unaccompanied minors were crossing, being left at the border,

00:21:43.440 crossing the border on their own in incredibly dangerous situations, sometimes being sold into human

00:21:49.080 trafficking, drug trafficking rings or joining gangs. So we have to consider what exactly the side

00:21:55.440 effects are when we grant amnesty to people who decided to cross the border in dangerous conditions

00:22:00.760 and illegally. And so that's one of the things that I think president Trump should consider when

00:22:05.240 he's making a deal with the Democrats. That's right. It's funny because there are so many hysterical

00:22:11.480 news cycles. They seem to come every 24 hours that we forget this major event that happened just a few

00:22:16.760 years ago. Absolutely right. Now we have much more news to talk about. We have a lot, but I know what

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00:25:12.380 We're just about to get to the sacramental view of abortion that Democrats are taking and all of our

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00:26:54.640 All right, panel. In other news, Democrats are thrilled that they have successfully blocked

00:27:09.280 a law preventing late-term abortion on babies who can feel pain. Good job, Democrats. You should

00:27:14.940 feel really proud of yourself, huh? Upon blocking this bill and sending untold scores of late-term

00:27:20.040 pain-capable babies to certain death, Chuck Schumer high-fived fellow Democrat Heidi Heitkamp.

00:27:25.680 Philip, according to a Marist poll from late 2017, the majority of American women support

00:27:31.040 outlawing abortion in 99% of cases. Now, this doesn't have to do with how they identify pro-life

00:27:36.560 or pro-choice kind of malleable euphemisms. When you get down to the brass tacks and the bones

00:27:41.580 of abortion, the majority of women oppose virtually all abortions. Why are Democrat lawmakers so

00:27:47.020 insistent on keeping late-term abortion legal? Well, because Democrats simply don't care about

00:27:53.000 popular opinion when it comes to abortion. Their abortion orthodoxy is unbending, and they are going

00:27:58.280 to make certain that the United States stays in the company of other nations which allow third

00:28:02.260 trimester abortions, nations like North Korea and China. And this is really unfortunate because

00:28:07.860 they often do this to their own political detriment. I mean, DNC chairman Tom Perez found this out

00:28:14.300 earlier in the summer. He was going across the country trying to do this soul-searching tour to

00:28:19.300 get back in touch with, you know, real America. And he stops- I think he's still looking, by the way.

00:28:24.080 I think that soul-searching tour didn't turn up too much. Yeah, so, but he stops in Nebraska,

00:28:30.200 right? And he runs across this guy named Heath Mello, who is a pro-life Democrat who's running for

00:28:35.980 mayor of Omaha, because in order to be the mayor of Omaha, you have to be pro-life. He endorses him,

00:28:42.900 and then 24 hours later, he's brought to his knees by Democratic donors who say that this is

00:28:48.400 completely reprehensible. You have to be pro-choice to be Democrat. And even when it's to their own

00:28:53.180 detriment, they insist on following up with this. But I think that the pro-life Democrat is actually

00:29:00.020 going to make a comeback. And I think we saw this the other day with the Payne Capable Act.

00:29:04.120 You had Democrats like Joe Manchin of Indiana actually vote for the legislation because they

00:29:11.040 know, well, they're from states that are deep red and that Trump won. And if they're going to make a

00:29:16.660 pitch to religious or evangelical voters come November, you know, they need to be able to say

00:29:21.200 that they're somewhat pro-life. So I think the pro-life Democrat might be coming back.

00:29:25.580 Now, there's a very good shot. Joe Manchin, you said to Indiana, I think you went West Virginia.

00:29:32.920 Oh, Joe Donnelly. Joe Donnelly.

00:29:34.500 Joe Donnelly. But Manchin, I see how you get them confused because Joe Manchin is another one who's

00:29:39.680 this, he's the last blue dog left in the country. And you wonder, are these guys going to go

00:29:44.680 completely extinct? Or in order to win elections, are Democrats going to have to come back and

00:29:50.500 contravene their fanatical orthodoxy a little bit? Ariel, will Democrat lawmakers have to answer

00:29:56.560 for this come election time? Or will this not matter with their constituencies? Heitkamp is from

00:30:01.720 North Dakota, which tilts in favor of abortion. You know, will there be any consequences for them?

00:30:08.160 Or as Philip predicts, will there be a return of the pro-life Democrat? Or are they going the way to

00:30:13.500 the dodo? Well, I think there will be consequences for individuals like, for instance, Doug Jones.

00:30:19.880 So he was just as bad as we thought he was going to be. And he voted in favor of not passing this

00:30:26.500 ban. And so when he won the special election in Alabama, you know, there were lots of people on

00:30:33.160 the right and the left who said, you know what, don't be hysterical about Doug Jones. He's not as

00:30:37.320 bad as we think he is when it comes to abortion. He is just as bad as we thought he was going to be.

00:30:41.700 Not to mention you have individuals like Lisa Murkowski, Susan Collins, both Republicans

00:30:46.340 from Alaska and Maine, respectively, who both voted against the ban as well. And they've been a

00:30:52.280 perpetual headache for the GOP in general. So that really didn't shock me, everything from Obamacare

00:30:57.080 and whatnot. They've been a tremendous headache when it comes to voting. But in general, I think we're

00:31:03.020 going to see repercussions of this. Perhaps for individuals like Doug Jones, who are sort of a

00:31:07.220 smaller revival potentially of the Southern Democrat, he will have to answer for it because

00:31:12.380 I don't think that was in line with at all what his constituents would have wanted in Alabama in

00:31:16.880 particular. It happens to be, you know, a very pro-life heavy state. And I would, I applaud voters

00:31:24.420 who respond to that, to those type of votes and say, you know what, we don't want those type elected

00:31:28.800 officials making that type of decision. So, you know, I don't know. I'm cautious to say that there's

00:31:33.600 going to be a revival of the Southern Democrat. But I just don't see it as being as much of a

00:31:39.360 priority for the left as it is for the right. And Doug Jones is a good example because he only won

00:31:45.620 that election because of the gross incompetence of Republicans in that state, national Republicans

00:31:52.720 and guys like Luther Strange who didn't find these sordid stories about Roy Moore and try to push them

00:32:01.020 and Roy Moore who couldn't fight those stories. And obviously Steve Bannon, you know, was pilloried

00:32:06.320 for losing Alabama for Republicans. But as a result now of that, Doug Jones is going to have to answer

00:32:12.400 because Alabama hasn't, hasn't completely flipped overnight. The State of the Union is tonight,

00:32:17.060 everybody. What began as a sober affair during which the president would present remarks to Congress

00:32:23.160 has now turned into a televised circus. Warren Harding was the first president to broadcast the

00:32:28.460 address on the radio. Truman was the first to be televised. Reagan began the practice of inviting

00:32:33.040 special guests, military, law enforcement, that sort of thing. It worked so phenomenally well,

00:32:38.100 everybody has copied him since, as is true of most of the Reagan administration. Barack Obama famously

00:32:43.520 used to address, use the address rather, to criticize the Supreme Court. While the Supreme Court could not

00:32:48.920 do anything in response, they had to sit there like puppets other than the great hero, Sam Alito,

00:32:53.740 who just shook his head and said no. Antonin Scalia famously boycotted the State of the Union

00:32:59.180 because it is a frivolous parade. Amber, is it time to end this circus or is it good for the

00:33:04.720 American people to see these remarks regardless of how silly they appear? I think circus is exactly

00:33:11.100 the right word. And you know, I've already heard so many liberal media pundits complaining that the

00:33:18.020 State of the Union is going to be boring because President Trump is going to read a scripted speech.

00:33:23.180 And I think it's really funny to finally have them admit that the way that Trump speaks from the

00:33:28.580 heart and the way that he usually addresses his constituents is actually really not only

00:33:34.340 entertaining, but just really gripping. So that's been interesting to see on Twitter and on TV and

00:33:41.180 the like. Now, the Democratic response, I think, is going to be the really interesting part of the

00:33:46.480 State of the Union tonight because they have none other than a Kennedy delivering the response to

00:33:53.200 Trump's State of the Union, proving that they learned absolutely nothing from the 2016 election

00:33:58.040 because they've chosen yet another establishment, you know, ancestral Democrat.

00:34:05.780 What's really amazing about this, too, what's amazing is that these responses to the State

00:34:11.180 of the Union have never gone well. For either party, they call it the curse of the State of

00:34:16.260 the Union response. And so who do they pick to break a curse? They pick a Kennedy. Because

00:34:21.000 nobody knows how to break curses quite like Kennedy's, isn't that right? Philip, politics is a major

00:34:25.960 form of American entertainment. We elected the pioneer of reality TV to become the president himself.

00:34:30.780 Does this obsession with politics as entertainment show that we've decayed as a culture, as C.S. Lewis

00:34:37.720 might describe? Or is it good that Americans are so, we're so plugged into our political process,

00:34:42.180 I'm sure the ratings are going to be through the roof. Well, you know, politics is definitely

00:34:46.420 downstream from culture, and that's how President Trump floated into the Oval Office. He's fun to

00:34:51.260 watch. I mean, if you go to a Trump rally, it's a rock concert because everyone is excited about what

00:34:56.360 he's going to say, and everyone is kind of waiting for him to say something crazy. That's the way it is.

00:35:00.780 Tonight, you know, I think there is a little bit of frustration that he's going to be on script.

00:35:05.980 But last year during the joint address, he got rave reviews. He was incredibly presidential,

00:35:10.820 especially when he was talking to the widow of that Navy SEAL. And I think that we'll probably

00:35:16.180 see something similar. He's going to be plugging his past achievements and pitching

00:35:20.640 reform on immigration. And I think he's got an opportunity to show that he's kind of the adult

00:35:27.220 in the room when it comes to, you know, making these deals, because Democrats have just shut

00:35:33.440 down the government. You know, quickly to bounce off what the last guest said, yeah, Democrats

00:35:37.760 definitely have multiple personality disorders. And choosing Joe D. Kennedy III is just amazing.

00:35:45.880 I mean, what screams more American than an Ivy League, blue-blooded, trust fund baby?

00:35:52.360 Just rich Uncle Penny bags the eighth. That's going to be the next State of the Union response.

00:35:58.000 How could it not?

00:35:59.160 Ariel, we've got to go. We have run out of time. But do you have any final thoughts

00:36:03.480 on this ridiculous circus tonight?

00:36:06.780 Well, Jay Koss from the Weekly Standard had a good quote. He said,

00:36:09.760 the State of the Union is much too kingly for a republic. And I kind of, I err on that side

00:36:14.960 when it comes to the State of the Union address. I think at one point, you know, it served purpose

00:36:18.500 for updating Congress. And now it has become sort of a self-aggrandizing event on behalf

00:36:23.740 of the president.

00:36:24.220 That's sort of, it's like Burger Kingly. It isn't, there's nothing actually regal about

00:36:28.100 it. It's so, I see the point. We are worshiping at the altar of the presidency in many ways

00:36:34.220 when we watch it. But my problem isn't that the affair is too monarchist or something.

00:36:39.900 My affair, my problem with it is it's so crass and vulgar. It's like, it sends shivers

00:36:44.140 up my spine.

00:36:46.460 Well, yeah, I would have to agree with you on that, on that front. But I think that at

00:36:50.840 this point, you know, it is entertainment. I side with Phil at this point, like, you know,

00:36:54.740 bring it on. I'll pour a glass of wine. I'll sit and watch it and I'll be happy to do so.

00:36:58.680 In for a penny, in for a pound. So goes the republic. C'est la vie. Okay, panel, thank you

00:37:04.200 all for being here. We have Philip Wegman. We have Ariel Davidson. We have Amber Athey.

00:37:08.480 That's it. That's our entire show. Be sure to tune in. We're going to be broadcasting within

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