The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 970 - What Is A Woman？

00:00:00.000 Joe Biden's Supreme Court nominee, Ketanji Jackson, has been in confirmation hearings for

00:00:04.680 three days, during which time she has refused to say when she thinks life begins.

00:00:09.760 She pled ignorance when she was asked what a woman is, and she defended her extremely light 1.00

00:00:16.000 sentencing record for pedophiles. It has not been a great first week for her, and Democrats are now

00:00:22.980 scrambling to stop the bleeding, as the chairman of the proceedings, Dick Durbin, demonstrated

00:00:27.960 yesterday when he refused to let the judge answer a simple question from Ted Cruz.

00:00:33.620 Your child pornography possession crime was egregious in the court's view. Okay, so this is a bad one.

00:00:41.080 If you're actually sentencing defendants, you said this was egregious. What did you sentence Stuart for?

00:00:47.020 The guidelines said 9,721 months. Prosecutors said 97 months. You said it's egregious. 6,700 images.

00:00:54.740 You come in with 57 months. Why did you sentence into just 57 months in the Stuart case? Do you want

00:01:02.140 to address that? Does she want to address that? No, she does not want to address that. Judge Jackson

00:01:07.960 had already lost her temper as Republicans focused in on her strange record of letting pedophiles off 0.99

00:01:14.320 the hook. But she didn't even have the chance to address the record by responding to Cruz's question

00:01:20.320 because Dick Durbin started talking over both her and Cruz and did everything that he could

00:01:26.860 to move on. You're not recognized, Senator. Senator Coons. You don't want her to answer that question?

00:01:32.540 You wouldn't allow her anything. Mr. Chairman, she may answer the question. I've asked her why

00:01:36.420 she sentence Stuart. You're going over the time, Senator, by two minutes and a half.

00:01:39.720 Why she, because you've interrupted me for two minutes, Mr. Chairman. Will you allow her to answer

00:01:43.640 the question or do you not want the American people to hear why with someone she described

00:01:48.520 as an egregious... There's a point, Senator, where you get a little bit...

00:01:51.500 Chairman Durbin, will you allow her to answer the question?

00:01:53.900 You won't allow her to answer the question. I will happily allow her to... Why are you not

00:01:57.860 allowing her to answer the question? There's not another senator here that you've not allowed

00:02:01.220 her to answer the question. I'm not asking another question, but allow her to answer the

00:02:05.260 question, Chairman Durbin. Thank you, Chairman Durbin.

00:02:07.420 Why do you not want the American people to know what happened in the Stuart case or any of these

00:02:11.540 cases? Chairman Durbin, I've never seen the chairman refuse to allow a witness to answer

00:02:17.060 a question. You can bang it as loud as you want. I can just tell you, at some point you

00:02:21.320 have to follow the rules. Okay, will you let her answer the question? You've been interrupting

00:02:25.360 and by the way, with Senator Graham, it went 10 minutes over. You've taken a big chunk of

00:02:29.760 the time. Will you allow her to answer the question? You've given her... Why are you afraid

00:02:34.780 of her? She's welcome to answer it right now. Will you let her? Senator Coons. 0.74

00:02:40.300 This is really masterful stuff here from Cruz. You can tell, if you didn't already know it before,

00:02:47.060 the guy has stagecraft. You can tell that he's argued cases before the Supreme Court.

00:02:52.300 Every time Durbin tries to get the last word to insinuate, dishonestly, that Cruz doesn't want

00:02:58.580 Ketanji Jackson to answer the question, Cruz cuts back in. No, you won't let her answer the question.

00:03:04.340 No, you won't let her answer. No, you won't. No, you won't. And it's back and forth and back and

00:03:08.000 forth. And it sounds like a middle school playground, but Cruz is doing it for a reason.

00:03:13.120 After Cruz makes a scene and the clip goes viral, there is no mistaking it. Cruz wants her to answer

00:03:20.240 the question. He wants to give her time to do that. Durbin wants her to keep her mouth shut. 0.99

00:03:25.380 And Durbin's right to do that because he knows that Ketanji Jackson's answers on pedophiles,

00:03:31.700 on life, on womanhood. They are not going to play very well in Peoria. In just three days, 0.93

00:03:40.320 Ketanji Jackson has proven herself to be either the stupidest nominee in the history of the court 1.00

00:03:45.400 or the most radical. She will be confirmed. There is almost no question about that. But she'll be 1.00

00:03:52.280 exposed to, as will every Democrat who votes for her. I'm Michael Knowles. This is the Michael Knowles Show.

00:04:01.700 Welcome back to the show. My favorite comment yesterday is from William C.,

00:04:08.580 who says, interesting that someone whose nomination rested almost entirely on being a woman

00:04:14.060 cannot define what a woman is. That's not fair. That is not fair. Her nomination also rested on her 1.00

00:04:22.260 being black. That is not fair. Biden made it very clear. He said, I will pick a black woman. So it is 0.98

00:04:29.600 ironic that someone who was nominated half because she's a woman cannot explain what a woman is. But

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00:05:15.360 This clip has gone viral. This clip, we played it yesterday. Let's just play it again.

00:05:22.740 Marsha Blackburn, Republican Senator from Tennessee, asked Ketanji Jackson,

00:05:27.920 can you give a definition of the word woman? Can you provide a definition for the word woman?

00:05:37.100 Can I provide a definition? No. Yeah. I can't. You can't?

00:05:42.980 Not in this context. I'm not a biologist. So you believe the meaning of the word woman 1.00

00:05:49.420 is so unclear and controversial that you can't give me a definition?

00:05:54.800 She can. She's not a biologist. This clip has gone viral. It's gone viral in part because this

00:06:00.260 gender issue has taken over the country. You see it with the NCAA controversy. There's a man named

00:06:06.800 Will Thomas who beat all the girls in the girls' swimming match, and he gets the trophy and everyone's

00:06:12.080 supposed to be okay with that. You see it with the bathroom bills. You see it with all sorts of new

00:06:16.820 legislation. And conservatives are flabbergasted by this. We think this is so

00:06:21.320 beyond caricature. It's so beyond absurdity. But I am worried sometimes that we are not giving the

00:06:30.540 best argument for the other side, or that we simply don't understand what the other side is saying.

00:06:34.280 So in the interest of actually hearing out the other side, I'm very pleased to bring on David

00:06:38.840 Pakman, who is the host of The David Pakman Show. It's a nationally syndicated progressive TV show

00:06:44.840 and radio show. I'm always really grateful to progressives who come on this show. We invite

00:06:50.640 lots of them on. Very often they say no. Sometimes they come on. So just to make sure we're not

00:06:55.580 strawmanning anything, let's bring on David. David, thank you so much for coming on the show.

00:06:59.980 It's a unique pleasure to be here, Michael. Thank you.

00:07:02.480 So, David, you saw the clip. You've been watching the Ketanji Jackson hearings.

00:07:08.480 Am I crazy or should a twice Harvard educated nominee, federal judge nominee for the Supreme

00:07:15.980 Court, who is a woman, be able to define what a woman is? 1.00

00:07:21.480 I can't say if you're crazy. That would be for a mental health professional. 0.91

00:07:25.220 For my doctor. 1.00

00:07:26.060 You're either dishonest or ignorant, and we can maybe figure out which. So here's the deal. 1.00

00:07:30.760 I mean, you know what? We're just meeting each other. I'm sort of kidding around. But here's

00:07:34.400 the deal. There are no instances where when issues come before the Supreme Court, it comes

00:07:42.660 down to the dictionary definition of a word when it comes to who counts as a woman or what

00:07:50.060 is discrimination or what is negligence. It's always in very narrow circumstances where dictionary

00:07:57.160 definitions do almost nothing for you. So she was very smart not to play into these kind

00:08:03.860 of rhetorical black holes, because whatever definition she gives, Michael, she then is

00:08:09.300 going to be pushed into some corner with some case or article or book she hasn't read, by the

00:08:15.380 way. And there's no upside to it. So if we're just having a good faith conversation about strategy,

00:08:22.000 she did the right thing. Almost 60 percent of Americans believe she's qualified and she

00:08:27.800 is. And that's really all there is to it. It's kind of boring.

00:08:30.740 Well, I agree with her. I don't agree with you that it's boring. I think it's one of the

00:08:34.680 most interesting questions in the country that we're now at a point where we can no longer

00:08:37.880 even define man or woman. But I do agree with you on strategy. She's in a very tough spot

00:08:42.900 because her side of the aisle and she's relatively leftist, even by the standards of the Democratic 0.95

00:08:49.580 Party. So on her side of the aisle, there is a new definition of woman. Well, they haven't given

00:08:55.080 the definition of woman, but it's it's not the old definition of woman, which is a person who's

00:08:58.840 not a man that is out because of the transgender movement. And so she knows that if she gives this

00:09:04.100 new definition, which is a woman is. I don't know, a woman is someone who says that he or she is a 0.98

00:09:10.660 woman that's going to alienate, I think, the majority, the vast majority of Americans. If she gives 1.00

00:09:15.740 the old definition that a woman is a female human being and a female is of or denoting the sex that

00:09:23.840 can bear children and reproduce and produce eggs, for instance, she knows that that will alienate her 1.00

00:09:30.640 base. And she knows that that now is apparently controversial in the law after the Bostock decision,

00:09:36.080 after other transgender decisions. So I understand the strategy. But what about the law? What about

00:09:43.320 the definition? You say she doesn't she shouldn't be quoting the dictionary. Well, fine. Shouldn't

00:09:48.900 she at least be able to give the legal definition of a woman? Shouldn't she, a woman, have some sense 1.00

00:09:53.860 of what that is? I'm not a meteorologist. I can tell you if it's raining. Yeah, there is no legal

00:09:59.620 definition of a woman. And that's exactly the point. The point here is when it comes to the court,

00:10:05.580 the court is in a position or will be in a position or might be in a position to decide for the

00:10:11.380 purposes of a particular set of facts based on a claim brought by someone who appeals a case about

00:10:18.800 these issues. And so it's it's literally irrelevant to her job as a Supreme Court justice. And so again,

00:10:26.740 we can have a cultural discussion outside of the context of the Supreme Court in the Senate's job in

00:10:33.860 evaluating. Is she qualified? It's an irrelevant question. And by her qualifications, she's she's more

00:10:40.460 qualified than any of the nine justices currently on the court. There's no way to deny that. I think

00:10:45.460 you can, because I think all of the nine justices on the court can tell you what a woman is. And so 0.69

00:10:49.840 I know we're getting back to do that. No, nobody's ever been asked to define words in this way during

00:10:55.860 hearings. So you could speculate that, but they've never been asked. They've never been asked. I've

00:11:02.280 never been, but I, I, I, as a gambling man, I would bet the farm that a justice Alito could tell you

00:11:07.260 what a woman is, but you're right. They've never been asked because it's never been controversial

00:11:10.280 before. But I want to get to a point you just made. You said there's no legal definition of a

00:11:14.180 woman, but there must be because there are legal protections specifically for women. So if we don't 0.95

00:11:19.020 know what a woman is, then title three thing and title nine and title nine is quite controversial.

00:11:24.820 Good faith conversation or one that's in some way productive, you know,

00:11:28.640 you're saying you and I, or you're saying Ketanji Jackson.

00:11:31.460 Yeah. I don't know if, I mean, listen, the Republican senators obviously didn't want to have a good

00:11:35.740 faith conversation. I was, I was talking about you and I, Michael.

00:11:38.140 Yes. Well, I do want to, I mean, this, this is why I'm granting you the, you're making the point

00:11:41.920 on political strategy. I totally grant you that. That was the right move for her to make if she 1.00

00:11:46.120 wants to avoid it. But, but then bring up title nine. I mean, there is, there are legal protections

00:11:50.960 for women. This is coming before the court. It's come before the court in the last term. They're 1.00

00:11:54.840 going to be a lot more cases coming before the court coming up. It seems extraordinarily relevant

00:11:58.880 that we know what this woman thinks of these issues and of a basic question of biology and human

00:12:04.980 nature. What is a woman? I mean, I don't think that's a bad faith question for the senators or

00:12:09.240 for me to ask. No, it's so it's not necessarily bad faith, but we have to be able to, as I, what I

00:12:15.600 hope are reasonable people, Michael, understand that in the context of her role as a Supreme Court

00:12:20.340 justice, it doesn't come down to a biological opinion. Like do, is that, can you at least grant

00:12:26.680 that piece? It's true that for what the Supreme Court decides, these are narrow issues where when it

00:12:33.580 comes to Obamacare's constitutionality, which Amy Coney Barrett never, you know, would refuse to

00:12:39.400 weigh in on or what, with all of these things, these are really narrow legal decisions and there

00:12:45.500 is no way in which a dictionary definition of terms does anything for us. Well, it might do

00:12:51.700 something, but I grant your point a little bit, except that Marsha Blackburn didn't ask for the

00:12:56.320 biological definition or the dictionary definition. That's what Ketanji Jackson added. She said,

00:13:01.020 I'm not a biologist, but all Marsha Blackburn asked was just tell me what a woman is from a 1.00

00:13:05.760 legal perspective, a constitutional perspective, a philosophical, I mean, whatever, whatever.

00:13:09.420 That's literally not what Marsha Blackburn said. I would encourage you to pull the clip and identify

00:13:13.340 the time at which she said that. She said she didn't mention biology and she didn't mention

00:13:16.560 the dictionary. She said, what's the difference? But you just asserted that she said she wanted the

00:13:19.840 legal and philosophical. She never said it. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I didn't say that. I said she,

00:13:23.800 no, no, I, I just said Marsha Blackburn asked for the definition,

00:13:27.940 any sort of definition that Ketanji Jackson could give of woman. She didn't specify biology.

00:13:32.640 Now you're backtracking.

00:13:33.500 I'm not backtracking at all.

00:13:34.460 That's dishonest now.

00:13:35.340 I'm not backtracking.

00:13:35.940 How am I backtracking?

00:13:36.860 No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Hold on a second. Let's, let's be clear.

00:13:39.800 30 seconds ago, you said Marsha Blackburn didn't ask for the biological.

00:13:43.980 She asked for the legal.

00:13:45.020 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I didn't.

00:13:46.100 Let me, let me finish the sentence.

00:13:48.040 Okay, but I, you're misrepresenting what I said.

00:13:50.300 I.

00:13:50.540 No, I'm not. I would encourage the audience to rewind.

00:13:52.660 I, I would encourage that. I would encourage that as well.

00:13:54.600 But first, but can I even get it out or is that, I mean, it's okay. The problem with what you just

00:13:59.400 did, Michael, is you just said Blackburn asked for the legal definition and I said, no, she didn't.

00:14:06.280 And you said, no, that's true. She actually just asked for the definition.

00:14:08.740 No, I'm sorry. Well then if, if either you misheard or it seemed that I misspoke, I'll be

00:14:13.040 very clear. She, Marsha Blackburn just said, what's the definition of a woman? She didn't specify

00:14:18.720 anything else. Now, you then said that biology has no place here or that the dictionary definition

00:14:25.140 has no place, but that's not what Marsha Blackburn asked for. She just asked a simple question.

00:14:29.180 Well, understand that in these Supreme Court hearings, the senators can ask the questions

00:14:34.300 however they want and the nominees can answer them however they want.

00:14:38.360 Or not answer them.

00:14:39.020 My opinion is, this is my opinion and you can have a different one and that's the great

00:14:43.340 thing about America, Michael. My opinion is that if you're interviewing for the job of

00:14:48.840 Supreme Court justice, it's reasonable to assume the questions have a legal bearing as to your

00:14:54.300 role on the court. Given that Judge Jackson was right to understand the point of the question

00:15:03.120 is to back her into a rhetorical corner about legal definitions and she was right to say it's not

00:15:10.660 something I can answer. These are narrow issues when they come before the court and there's no reason

00:15:16.500 that she would ask such a question. When I, do you know this guy, Jesse Lee Peterson? Have you heard

00:15:20.380 of him? I know Jesse Lee Peterson. When I was on with Jesse, he said to me, David, define what love

00:15:26.440 is and what a man is. And it's a, it's a really common rhetorical technique for the bad faith, 0.97

00:15:32.540 right? To start with just pick a word and define it and use it to back someone into a rhetorical

00:15:39.320 corner. It's a waste of time, Michael. Let's teach, let's talk about real issues, please.

00:15:43.860 Okay. Oh, I, I think that as a philosophical issue, but certainly as a legal issue to the

00:15:49.000 definition of a woman does matter, has mattered recently and will matter soon. But, but I, I, 0.87

00:15:54.000 I at least agree with you on the strategy. You have not convinced me of a judge Jackson's,

00:15:59.640 uh, good faith, uh, confirmation hearing, but you have convinced me that she is a wise politician

00:16:07.740 and that she's, uh, she's playing her hand the best that she can. Before I let you go, David,

00:16:13.800 I know we're like way over. I, I'm not, I am really not playing the game of giving you some

00:16:19.680 impossible thing to define. But since the question of woman is up in the air, everyone's arguing over

00:16:25.520 what it means these days. Do you have either you yourself or you speaking for the progressives?

00:16:31.260 Do you have a working definition that you would use?

00:16:33.920 No, I don't do, like I told Jesse Lee Peterson and there's so many, this, this interview is feeling

00:16:38.620 a lot like that one. Interestingly enough, um, I don't do dictionary. I do politics. And so now I

00:16:44.280 just, I don't spend time defining words and here's, here's the, in all seriousness, Michael,

00:16:48.780 um, fit, let's now talk philosophically. Really? We're talking, you know, man to man. Now

00:16:54.100 dictionaries are descriptive, not proscriptive. So they're prescriptive sometimes too, but yeah,

00:17:01.340 but they can be descriptive. They can be, they are descriptive and prescriptive as well,

00:17:05.420 right? The word definition, by definition, humans decide what to put in the dictionary,

00:17:10.640 right? So they're just, these are descriptive. But they put it there because the words means at

00:17:15.240 the time believe. Yeah. I mean, we could, we could go down a tangent on prescriptivism versus

00:17:20.220 descriptivism and that might be good for a future appearance. I don't know if it's a tangent, but

00:17:23.580 I know it's, it would be a very good discussion. And, uh, and I, I think it would be great to have

00:17:27.700 you back. I appreciate that. I truly, truly appreciate your coming on and giving, uh, the progressive

00:17:33.660 perspective on this. And I hope to have you back on the show. Where can people find you in the

00:17:36.880 meantime? DavidPakman.com. And it's been my unbridled pleasure to provide you these insights.

00:17:43.660 Thank you, David, very much. I appreciate it. We need to get more progressives to come on this

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00:19:05.220 Ketanji Jackson has had a really tough time on the Supreme Court confirmation hearings. She,

00:19:11.740 as we just discussed, can't define what a woman is. She cannot define when life begins. She has this 1.00

00:19:18.320 tough issue where she's been light on sentencing pedophiles. There's another issue that almost no

00:19:25.380 one is talking about. It's not the most radical thing she said, but it's pretty out there.

00:19:31.760 Ketanji Jackson, while she was describing various cases that she has heard as a judge,

00:19:40.260 she praised a really radical cult called the African Hebrew Israelites.

00:19:46.860 Even areas of the law that you might think apply only to businesses impact real people

00:19:54.580 at times. So this case involved a small community, a cultural community of people who believe in

00:20:05.240 vegan lifestyles. They call themselves the African Hebrew Israelites, but it's not a religious

00:20:12.500 community. It's a cultural community around healthy living. And they have created a restaurant and a

00:20:22.900 series of restaurants here in the Washington, D.C. area with menus involving really, I'm told,

00:20:32.720 terrific vegan foods. And in this community, there was a member who was the one who created

00:20:42.420 the recipes and who was responsible for the restaurant. The whole community had other aspects

00:20:47.540 to it. It's a cultural community. It's a vegan community. It's not religious. The African Hebrew 0.87

00:20:53.800 Israelites, this got my ears up because I have heard of the African Hebrew Israelites, sometimes called

00:20:59.240 the black Israelites, sometimes just called the Hebrew Israelites. And there are different groups of

00:21:04.120 them, but they're in New York, they're in D.C. They're all over the country. They're actually all over

00:21:09.820 the world. And it's a group of black nationalists who believe that the Jews are not really the Jews

00:21:17.360 and that black people are actually the Jews, the Israelites described in the Bible. And when you meet 0.89

00:21:24.320 them in New York and D.C., they're usually hurling all sorts of vicious racial and sexual slurs at people. 0.88

00:21:30.860 Actually, the Covington kids, you remember the Covington pro-life kids who were yelled at by the crazy 0.97

00:21:36.700 Native American man banging the drum. Well, the group that first started yelling at them was a

00:21:41.420 group of the Hebrew Israelites. Ketanji Jackson is saying, one, they're not religious. Two, they're

00:21:46.620 this nice, wonderful community. Seems very strange to me. The left is already running interference.

00:21:52.500 They're saying conservatives are confusing black Israelite sects in labeling Ketanji Brown Jackson

00:21:58.480 as soft on anti-Semitism. And they're saying, well, lots of people like townhall.com and Ben

00:22:05.300 Dominic and other conservatives are confusing them. Yes, there are the Hebrew Israelites that are

00:22:10.200 vicious and anti-Semitic and racist and terrible. But then there are the nice Hebrew Israelites. And 1.00

00:22:14.680 there are different groups. And you're an idiot if you're confusing them. So I just did about five 1.00

00:22:19.060 minutes of Googling. And that's not true. It's true that there are different associations and

00:22:25.120 different sects of the Hebrew Israelites. But it's not true that they have different views on

00:22:33.600 who the real Jews are. And it's not true that they're not a religious group. You just go to the

00:22:38.000 specific group that was involved in Ketanji Jackson's case. You go to their website, the African Hebrew

00:22:43.040 Israelites of Jerusalem, about us. They talk about their religious views. The very first line is,

00:22:48.820 most of the time around the world, when men speak of the kingdom of God, they do so metaphorically.

00:22:52.440 But we do not. We're talking in real life. So the very first line is a religious line.

00:22:58.600 The historical background is that they are the ancient Israelites. And then they were driven

00:23:05.300 to Africa. And then from West Africa, they were brought by the Europeans on slave ships. So 0.69

00:23:10.860 this is the group. This is the group that believes that the Jews are not really the Jews and the black 0.95

00:23:16.160 people are the real Jews. They're obviously a religious community. It's not just a group of vegans.

00:23:21.940 It's not just like your hippie sister who decides she's not going to eat meat for a while. This is

00:23:25.780 a group. If they eat a vegan diet, it is coming out of their religious underpinning. And so it brings us

00:23:32.700 back to this point about Ketanji Jackson. Either she's the stupidest nominee that's ever come before 1.00

00:23:37.640 the court. She doesn't know a damn thing about any of the cases she's worked on or even what a woman is. 1.00

00:23:42.040 Or she's a liar and the most radical. Which is it? I fear that it is the latter. Not great stuff. When 0.99

00:23:53.340 you want to reach people, you can do it. Look, Ketanji Jackson's reaching a lot of people right

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00:25:16.180 So Ketanji Jackson has been having this terrible, terrible week in her confirmation hearings.

00:25:21.580 And then it finally came back to this issue after the Hebrew Israelites, after the what is a woman thing,

00:25:27.240 after on and on and on, it finally came back to what many consider the most damning 0.90

00:25:32.240 argument against her confirmation, that she's soft on kiddie porn and child pornographers. And she 0.91

00:25:39.280 got a little hot under the collar defending it. In comes the internet. On the internet,

00:25:44.880 with one click, you can receive, you can distribute tens of thousands. You can be doing this for 15

00:25:55.220 minutes. And all of a sudden, you are looking at 30, 40, 50 years in prison.

00:26:03.560 Good. Good. Absolutely good. I hope you are. Good. Allow her to finish, please. I hope you go to jail

00:26:10.720 for 50 years. If you're on the internet trolling for images of children and sexual exploitation. So 0.99

00:26:16.900 you don't think that's a bad thing. I think that's a horrible thing. That's not what the witness said.

00:26:21.020 That's not what the witness, I mean, I guess it is sort of what the witness said. But anyway,

00:26:24.480 moving on, moving on. Gavel, gavel, gavel. This was an expertly laid trap and Ketanji Jackson fell

00:26:31.000 into it because this is what she really believes. She says, look, now it's so easy to spread child

00:26:35.660 pornography. And so if you apply the same sentencing guidelines from before the internet to the internet,

00:26:43.020 people are going to go to jail for a really long time. And Lindsey Graham says, yeah, good.

00:26:45.940 Isn't that good? Don't you want child pornographers to go to jail for a long time? 1.00

00:26:52.020 And she says, oh, oops, I just revealed I don't. And I don't think it's because Ketanji Jackson's

00:26:56.700 a pedophile. I think it's because she's a radical. I think it's because she's an ideologue who believes 0.80

00:27:02.140 that criminals should face much lighter sentences and who believes that we have an over-incarceration

00:27:08.260 problem and who believes that we need criminal justice reform and it's society's fault and we need

00:27:12.300 to go light. And so whatever the reason, I mean, you're talking about some of the more heinous

00:27:17.720 offenders out here. And even for them, she's saying we're going to go a lot lighter. So lots of red

00:27:22.840 flags in this woman's, I'm sorry, I'm not a biologist. I can't call her a woman. Lots of red flags in this 0.64

00:27:27.920 person's hearing. And yet the establishment left loves her. Joy Behar on The View says, this woman is

00:27:36.400 perfect. Here you have a woman, Ketanji, who reminded me of Obama a little bit because he was

00:27:45.020 also perfect. He had nothing wrong going on. So what you have here are 50 senators who are going

00:27:51.200 to vote against this woman who is above reproach. And the first black woman in that position, that is 0.99

00:27:58.760 going to be on their record. And that's why they're asking these dumb questions so that they can have 0.99

00:28:03.980 something to bring back to their constituency when they go home and say, well, look at, she doesn't 0.99

00:28:09.520 believe that babies are racist or whatever the hell they were talking about. Who even knows what 0.71

00:28:13.440 they're talking about? But they need something because it's an embarrassment to the country

00:28:18.100 to vote against a woman of this caliber. She's perfect. She reminds me of Obama. 1.00

00:28:25.280 She reminds you of Obama because she's black. That's what you're saying. 0.98

00:28:30.860 And she brings it back to race at the end too. So first she goes, this woman, she reminds me of

00:28:36.400 Obama. And then I think Joy Behar realized that she was making a comment that was extremely

00:28:41.220 condescending and obviously very racial. So she said, because they're both perfect. 0.97

00:28:45.580 But then she brings it back to race at the end, right? She says, and black people need to be perfect 1.00

00:28:49.500 for these awful racist Republicans to get by. That's preposterous. A white person in Ketanji 1.00

00:28:57.240 Jackson's, with her record, with her background, would not be, she wouldn't even be nominated for

00:29:04.360 the Supreme Court right now. We know that because Joe Biden explicitly said, I'm only going to pick

00:29:08.660 a black woman. We're going to get a diversity hire. There might be qualified white guys or Asian 1.00

00:29:13.680 guys or Hispanic guys or other women, but only a black woman. She says, well, you're at a disadvantage

00:29:19.620 if you're black. No, not according to, not according to Joe Biden, not according to affirmative 0.97

00:29:24.100 action, not according to the law. So no, because she's perfect. Well, let's see. She can't define 1.00

00:29:29.960 what life is. She's defending pedophiles and she doesn't know what a woman is. She herself, 1.00

00:29:33.980 a woman. Doesn't sound all that perfect to me. Just like Obama, he was perfect. Barack Obama is

00:29:38.500 this Chicago machine politician. One of the more corrupt presidents, not the most corrupt, 0.58

00:29:44.080 one of the more corrupt presidents we've had in recent memory, but he's perfect. No drama Obama,

00:29:50.680 no scandals on his watch. Like the IRS targeting scandal, channeling the federal bureaucracy against

00:29:56.880 your political opponents. Like the Fast and Furious scandal, like the Benghazi scandal. Like,

00:30:00.940 no, he's perfect. Forget about it. Hear no evil, see no evil, no way. The whole motivation,

00:30:08.140 the whole motivation here to support this woman is for her race and for her sex, 1.00

00:30:14.800 her sex that she cannot even define. This brings me to, speaking of women and speaking of perfection,

00:30:25.280 Nancy Pelosi, devout practicing Catholic, Nancy Pelosi. Nancy has just come out to defend what 0.99

00:30:32.080 we are told is the women's issue now, abortion. And she says she is defending abortion as a devout

00:30:37.880 practicing Catholic. Again, it isn't about what is your religious belief. It's what is the right of

00:30:46.140 people to make their own decisions about the sizing in time or if they're going to have a family.

00:30:52.500 This really gets me burned up, in case you didn't notice, because, again, I'm very Catholic,

00:30:59.240 devout, practicing, all of that. They would like to throw me out, but I'm not going.

00:31:04.540 Ha, ha, ha, ha. They want to throw me out of the Catholic Church, but I'm not going anywhere,

00:31:13.800 because I'm a devout, practicing Catholic. If you're a devout, practicing Catholic,

00:31:16.800 why do they want to throw you out? Because you're not a devout, practicing Catholic,

00:31:21.340 because you don't believe in the teachings of the Catholic Church, you don't practice the Catholic

00:31:25.560 faith, and because you, Nancy Pelosi, are in a state of public, scandalous, grave mortal sin

00:31:31.360 that imperils your eternal soul with every breath that you waste, every unrepentant breath that you

00:31:38.940 waste defending the slaughter of babies. That's why. I know that we're living in this postmodern world

00:31:47.240 now where we get to define anything as anything else, and words have no meaning. That was actually

00:31:51.460 part of what David and I were talking about. He said, words are just whatever we say they are,

00:31:54.700 right? That was the descriptivism, prescriptivism debate. If I say I'm a woman, I'm a woman. Well,

00:31:59.020 how do you define that? Well, I can't define it, because it's just whatever I want it to be.

00:32:02.660 That's a very new, very silly, very modern idea, and whatever else you want to say about the

00:32:08.660 Catholic Church, it's not a new and modern institution, and you don't just get to say, 0.94

00:32:13.260 I'm a Catholic. There's a group called Catholics for Choice. It's a group of pro-abortion 0.95

00:32:18.900 apostate Catholics, I guess, and they're obviously not practicing, and they say, well, I can be a Catholic 0.91

00:32:25.900 if I say I am. No, you can't. Catholicism, Christianity, traditionally, relies on the

00:32:33.380 sacrament of baptism, and you're practicing the faith, and you can be excommunicated, and you

00:32:38.420 can be in a state of grave mortal sin, and Nancy Pelosi's either got to get right with her faith, 0.96

00:32:44.660 or acknowledge that she doesn't really adhere to the faith of Catholicism. She adheres to the

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00:34:35.040 woman has become a national phenomenon. I was just debating with David Pakman. He couldn't give

00:34:43.400 the definition. It's not that he couldn't. He wouldn't give the definition because, as he admitted

00:34:47.560 politically, this is a total loser for the left because they don't have a definition for it.

00:34:53.180 Marsha Blackburn asked this question. Well, our very own Matt Walsh has been working stealthily for

00:34:59.660 many months now on a secret mission, on a movie, a man going all over to answer one simple question.

00:35:08.020 What is a woman? 1.00

00:35:09.920 I have traveled all over the world for the past year asking one simple question.

00:35:18.180 What is a woman? 1.00

00:35:20.320 What is a woman? What is it? What is it? I don't know.

00:35:30.540 People are laughing. Is that a dumb question? 0.99

00:35:33.560 I've been asking everybody this and almost nobody can answer it. 0.99

00:35:36.860 What is a woman? What is a woman? 1.00

00:35:39.300 That's a great question.

00:35:42.740 If one person could tell me what a woman is. 0.99

00:35:45.480 Congressman, thank you for being here.

00:35:47.360 I think this interview is over. Let's turn off the cameras.

00:35:49.620 I just wanted to know, what is a woman? 1.00

00:35:51.160 And you're not going to find out.

00:35:53.920 It's not a complicated question.

00:35:58.900 It's not a complicated question, but it is a very, very complicated answer, apparently.

00:36:05.580 And Matt has, I don't think he's gotten it yet. We'll see. The movie's coming out soon. It's going

00:36:09.660 to be absolutely terrific. We as conservatives need to be able to give an answer because Matt

00:36:16.160 kicked off this trend. Now, a lot of people are catching on to it, Senator Blackburn and others.

00:36:23.080 But what's the answer? There is an answer, you know, despite David not giving it earlier,

00:36:30.140 despite the Ketanji Jackson not giving it earlier, there is an answer. A woman is an adult female 0.96

00:36:37.600 human. But Michael, what is a female, right? That would be the next question. A female is of 0.98

00:36:44.800 or denoting the sex that can bear children or produce eggs. But Michael, you say, not all women

00:36:55.760 are fertile. Not all women can bear children. That's true. Michael, not all women can even 1.00

00:37:02.260 produce eggs. That's exceedingly rare that a woman can't produce any eggs. But sure, it can happen. 1.00

00:37:08.600 That still doesn't change the definition because those women are still of the sex that can bear 1.00

00:37:15.920 children and produce eggs. They are not men. What is a man? A man is an adult male human being. This is

00:37:25.860 amazing that in the year of our Lord, 2022, we have to give these definitions because America has

00:37:30.400 forgotten it. A male is, or a man is an adult male human. What is a male? A male is of or denoting

00:37:38.420 the sex that produces mobile gametes, small mobile gametes, especially sperm that can impregnate a woman

00:37:50.460 that can fertilize an egg. That's, well, what about a man whose swimmers don't work? They remain

00:37:57.560 of the sex that can do those things. They are not women who have a different definition. This is 0.67

00:38:07.540 what happens when you open the dictionary and you just look at the definition. For now,

00:38:13.060 the definition is going to change. This is where David Pakman makes a very good point. He says,

00:38:16.900 sometimes definitions just change based on describing how we use words. That's true.

00:38:22.620 The definition that has existed from the dawn of time until five minutes ago, and it's still in

00:38:27.880 the dictionaries because the libs haven't changed them yet, says that that is what a man is and that

00:38:33.240 is what a woman is. Why does the dictionary say that? David, as he pointed out in his descriptivism

00:38:38.820 comments, would say, well, it just says that because that's what human beings agreed upon. But that's not

00:38:43.640 true. It is true that sometimes words evolve over time and the politically correct try to change words to

00:38:50.620 contradict their meaning. But also, words have definitions because they refer to something that

00:38:56.740 is actually real. A word is a symbol and it refers to the symbolized, which is a real thing. And a man

00:39:02.640 is a real thing. And a woman is a real thing. And that definition really, really matters. This is not

00:39:08.540 just some frivolous joke. This is not just some bad faith discussion. This is not just Matt Walsh

00:39:13.140 getting some lols by making a movie. This is not just Republicans scoring cheap points by asking an

00:39:18.880 unfair question during a Senate hearing. This is a bedrock question for our law and for our

00:39:25.220 self-understanding. There are a lot of laws that refer to protections for men and women. If the

00:39:29.760 definition of woman suddenly becomes man, those protections completely go away. If we as a society

00:39:34.700 can't even agree on what any words mean, we can't communicate and govern ourselves. But surely,

00:39:40.400 if we can't agree on the most basic definitions of the most basic aspects of life, then we don't have a

00:39:46.360 society. Then we are just babbling in a cacophonous void. And increasingly, that's what our country

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00:42:56.100 It seems like our whole culture is changing, being upended, being reset. The World Economic

00:43:12.820 Forum has called for a great reset, specifically around the COVID lockdowns. You've heard for years,

00:43:19.700 conspiracy theories, crazy tinfoil hat conspiracy theories about a new world order. Those nuts who 0.88

00:43:26.800 mentioned the new world order, which President George H.W. Bush talked about, which lots of

00:43:33.940 leading statesmen have talked about in our history, and which President Joe Biden mentioned just the

00:43:38.660 other day.

00:43:39.000 You know, we are at an inflection point, I believe, in the world economy, not just the world economy,

00:43:45.580 in the world. It occurs every three or four generations. As one of them, as the one of the 0.92

00:43:51.780 top military people said to me in a secure meeting the other day, 60 million people died between 1900 and

00:43:59.600 1946. And since then, we established a liberal world order, and that hadn't happened in a long while.

00:44:07.380 A lot of people died, but nowhere near the chaos. And now is a time when things are shifting.

00:44:12.960 We're going to, there's going to be a new world order out there, and we've got to lead it. We've

00:44:17.200 got to unite the rest of the free world in doing it.

00:44:20.160 New world order. So when you hear this phrase, everyone's eyes open, everyone's ears perk up,

00:44:24.420 what are you talking about a new world order? I thought that wasn't real. I thought that was a

00:44:26.920 crazy conspiracy theory. Well, Biden is referring to one. And what is it? I don't think that the new

00:44:31.640 world order is reptilians from Mars dressed up in human suits. Maybe Hillary, maybe Bill, 0.98

00:44:38.160 maybe Fauci. I'm not sold that they are not reptilians dressed up in human suits. But for

00:44:44.400 most of the people talking about this, I think they're ordinary people with utopian and terrible

00:44:51.340 goals. When George H.W. Bush was talking about the new world order, what was he talking about? He was

00:44:55.720 talking about the end of the Cold War, this new period of American hegemony all around the world

00:45:02.480 where the sole superpower, we're going to run everything and things are going to be great.

00:45:06.380 And how are they going to be great? Basically through the expansion of global markets. So we're

00:45:11.060 going to spread neoliberalism, we're going to spread globalism, we're going to spread the American

00:45:16.880 economic and political order all the way around the world. The regimes are going to have to get much

00:45:22.880 more democratic, much more open to free trade. If they're not, well, there might be some problems

00:45:28.200 for those regimes. You might have to topple those regimes. And that'll be unpleasant. There'll be

00:45:32.120 some wars. But once that happens, once we topple all the autocrats, then we're going to have this 1.00

00:45:36.060 free, flourishing, liberal, democratic world, and we're all going to live in peace and harmony,

00:45:40.860 kumbaya. And we pursued that policy for a very long time. A lot of the wars in the Middle East

00:45:46.740 had that idea underpinning them. A lot of the economic policies regarding China, allowing China

00:45:55.100 into the World Trade Organization, really normalizing relations with China. The idea

00:45:59.180 was, well, if we open up trade with China, that's going to make the regime less autocratic. How has

00:46:03.900 that worked out? Not very well. How did the predictions that Joe Biden specifically made

00:46:07.700 that rising China would be great for the world, great for China, great for everyone, that didn't work 0.91

00:46:11.500 out very well. But they keep pushing it because they believe that unless the entire world is

00:46:17.220 basically operating under the same kind of political regime and economic regime, then there's going to

00:46:22.140 be war. And so we need war so that we can prevent the war in the future. That was the idea. It's a very 0.82

00:46:28.060 utopian kind of idea. And it hasn't worked out very well. I would humbly recommend, rather than

00:46:34.880 continuing to pursue the new world order, maybe we look at some of the older world orders.

00:46:41.500 Maybe we make our goals a little more realistic. We have a little bit more humility in our goals.

00:46:49.520 Because if we get a little too ambitious and we want to remake the entire world in the image of

00:46:54.120 America, we might end up losing America. We might end up losing our borders. We might end up losing

00:46:58.840 our culture. We might end up losing our solidarity and our love of country. We might end up losing our

00:47:04.380 minds to the point that we can't even define what a baby is and what a woman is. Oh, that's all 0.94

00:47:09.940 already happened. Right. Maybe we need a little less ambitious of a foreign policy and a little

00:47:17.880 more care and attention paid, not to the global citizens of the world where borders don't matter,

00:47:22.920 but to the citizens of the United States and recognize you're not going to get rid of wars.

00:47:27.900 You're not going to get rid of autocrats. You're not going to solve centuries, sometimes millennia

00:47:33.500 long conflicts with some platitudes that came out of a 1960s economic textbook from the United States

00:47:40.660 that maybe these long simmering issues in the Middle East, in Africa, in Eastern Europe, in Crimea for

00:47:47.640 that matter, that these are a little more complicated and they require a little bit more humility.

00:47:55.920 Because now things are really spiraling out of control. There's a politician who wants to go back

00:48:01.920 in time, but to a very specific period of time. This is a Russian politician, parliament member Oleg

00:48:08.440 Matvechev, who usually speaks on behalf of the Kremlin. And he dropped this idea during an

00:48:15.680 appearance on Russian state TV, according to the Daily Mail. He wants to take back Alaska.

00:48:21.880 See, Alaska used to belong to the Russians and then America got Alaska. And now this guy wants

00:48:27.580 Alaska back for Russia. He says he demands the return of all Russian properties, those of the Russian 0.96

00:48:33.080 empire, the Soviet Union and current Russia, which has been seized in the United States. And

00:48:38.220 so on. That was my next point. Alaska, we want Antarctica. We discovered it so it belongs to us. 0.86

00:48:48.280 This Russian parliament member, Mr. Oleg, sounds pretty much indistinguishable from an American

00:48:57.400 liberal, an American campus liberal who signs their emails, you know, signed so and so. I acknowledge

00:49:06.060 that I am on the land of the Chikani tribe and this is our land, their land that was taken unjustly,

00:49:12.060 but you know, we need to give the land back to the Indians or back to the Mexicans or back to the 0.90

00:49:16.380 French. I don't know, but we need to, whoever else was here before us, anyone but America gets the land. 0.93

00:49:23.160 My favorite part is when they say we have to give the land back to the Indians. The question is, 0.99

00:49:26.700 well, which Indians? This, they even, when they put it in their signatures, they say,

00:49:30.360 I acknowledge I'm on the land that was formerly belonged to the Apache and the Comanche and the 0.57

00:49:37.020 this she and the that she. And you say, okay, well, how did the land belong to all of those people?

00:49:43.840 They all just shared it. They were all kind of just one. It, oh no, that the land belonged to those 1.00

00:49:50.380 tribes at different times. Well, why did the land change possession? Oh, right. Cause the Comanche 1.00

00:49:58.420 came in and took it from the Apache. Oh, okay. So are we, are we going to give it back to the 0.98

00:50:03.380 Apache or we're going to give it back to the Comanche or we're just going to keep it ourselves 1.00

00:50:07.740 because we took it from the Comanche? How come the Comanche get to take it, but we don't get to take 1.00

00:50:13.380 it. How come the law of conquest works for every other group in the history of the world, except for

00:50:19.920 us? Are we going to give it back to the Russians? The American left after simping for Russia for a 0.51

00:50:26.580 hundred years. Now they are pretending to hate Russia and accusing the conservatives of being

00:50:32.020 pro-Russia. But what are we going to do? Are we going to give it back to the Russians? I don't 0.78

00:50:35.540 think so, Mr. Oleg. I think there's something called finders keepers and buyers keepers and

00:50:41.360 secretary of state Seward bought that land for us and we're going to keep it. And good luck if you

00:50:45.980 want to invade the land, your invasion of, of Ukraine, which everyone thought was going to be so 0.99

00:50:51.640 swift and oh, here come the Russians. Well, you're bogged down in that. So good luck, 1.00

00:50:55.060 go invade Russia. Bring it on, bring it on, buddy. I don't think so. If we're, if we're going to

00:51:00.600 return to a more stable, sane, humble foreign policy, then we should be a little more realistic.

00:51:06.560 This Russian parliament member seems more ambitious and crazy than Woodrow Wilson, than

00:51:12.420 George W. Bush and his most Wilsonian initiatives, but far, far crazier than all of that.

00:51:20.600 Where's the justification? You know, Pope Francis, I do want to get to this before we go. Pope Francis

00:51:26.240 says, not only is the war in Ukraine not just, but there is no such thing as a just war. And far be

00:51:33.540 it for me to contradict Papa Francesco, but let's not forget that the Pope is only infallible when

00:51:39.440 he's not being fallible. He's infallible on a narrow range of issues. And Pope Francis has said,

00:51:44.740 a war is always, always the defeat of humanity. Always there is no such thing as a just war.

00:51:48.960 Or they do not exist. This would contradict millennia of Catholic teaching. Thomas Aquinas

00:51:54.740 in particular, the great saint and doctor of the church says, there is such a thing as a just war.

00:51:59.360 Of course there is. The justice though relies on a few things. It relies on authority. The person

00:52:06.580 waging the war has the authority to do so. It relies on a just cause. You can't wage a war. Even if

00:52:13.660 you're an authority, you can't wage a war just because you want to. There has to be a just cause for the war.

00:52:18.960 Self-defense would be one example. And there has to be rightful intention. So those are the criteria

00:52:26.680 there. It's true that war is a bad thing, but it doesn't mean that there's never a purpose to war

00:52:34.220 or that war taken for just aims is not justified, is not legitimate. It reminds me of the people who

00:52:41.460 say, violence never solves anything. I think, well, it solved the second world war.

00:52:47.720 It solved, uh, no, it solves a lot. It solves crime when the police come and do violence upon

00:52:52.860 criminals. That solves that. We seem to have forgotten that. The left seems to have forgotten

00:52:57.240 that. Ketanji Jackson maybe never knew that in the first place. These are really, really basic things.

00:53:03.500 What is justice? There's a definition. What is justice? It's giving to each what he deserves.

00:53:09.420 What is a woman? A woman is an adult female human being. What is justified? What is life? When does 1.00

00:53:18.140 life begin? These are really basic questions. Contrary to what the left is trying to confuse

00:53:22.240 you into today, the definitions of those questions, the definitions of those terms matter. We will have a

00:53:29.420 definition. We will operate according to some definition. The left wants to radically change

00:53:32.920 the definition. We will have some definition or other. If we have the wrong definition, that is

00:53:39.580 not going to lead to a flourishing society. I'm Michael Knowles. This is The Michael Knowles Show. See you tomorrow.

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The Michael Knowles Show - March 24, 2022

Ep. 970 - What Is A Woman？

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