The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 984 - Covid Mandates And Gay Robots

00:00:00.000 I've got good news and I've got bad news. The good news is that Joe Biden is finally ending

00:00:06.280 the COVID restrictions. The bad news is he's only ending them for illegal aliens who are

00:00:12.980 trying to break into our country. Law abiding American citizens still need to muzzle up, 1.00

00:00:18.640 at least on public transportation, where the CDC has reportedly decided to extend the federal mask

00:00:24.940 mandate for just two more weeks. Just two, two more weeks. Where have I heard that one before?

00:00:31.920 At the same time, Joe Biden is officially ending the Title 42 public health authority

00:00:37.620 first invoked by President Trump that allowed immigration officials to turn away illegal

00:00:43.240 aliens and send them back to their native countries relatively quickly compared to the rest of our 1.00

00:00:48.420 system. So Biden is apparently worried that Americans might spread the new sub-variants

00:00:55.380 of the variant of the virus that even in its most virulent form never posed much of a threat

00:01:02.260 at all to the vast majority of Americans. But he's not worried that millions of unvetted foreigners 1.00

00:01:09.040 from countries with much lower public health standards than we have will spread the same 1.00

00:01:13.900 virus to each other and to us. Great news for people who want to take advantage of our country. 0.96

00:01:19.620 Bad news for our country's own citizens. In other words, more of the same. I'm Michael Knowles.

00:01:25.420 This is the Michael Knowles Show. Welcome back to the show. My favorite comment yesterday is from

00:01:36.120 Moose Chuckle, who says, I grew up poor. When I turned 18, I moved off, worked my derriere off to

00:01:43.340 go to college. That's not the word he used. I just cleaned it up a little bit. And I made a life for

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00:02:38.120 Here to help me make sense of this, because you know, we do not merely want to be pyromaniacs

00:02:43.880 in a field of straw men. We want to hear out what the other side has to say and hear the

00:02:48.280 best arguments for what seems to us to be absolutely absurd kind of policy. So we're very

00:02:54.600 happy to be joined by Jen Perlman, who is an attorney, an activist, a former congressional

00:03:00.040 candidate in Florida's 23rd congressional district. And right now, the force behind

00:03:04.880 the generational change podcast. And I love me a good pun. Jen, thank you for coming on the show.

00:03:12.100 Thank you for having me.

00:03:13.360 So Jen, this is our first time meeting. We haven't really spoken before.

00:03:17.320 I don't know where you stand on this issue. Frankly, I don't know where the majority of

00:03:21.160 Democrats stand on this issue, but it seems to me two years later, two years, now more than two

00:03:29.100 years after two weeks to slow the spread, isn't the COVID stuff over? Can't we move on and take

00:03:35.980 the mask off and go back in public and just live our lives?

00:03:40.760 Well, I have. You're not going to get that much of an argument from me. I'm pretty vehemently

00:03:47.600 opposed to mandates in general. I think that the policies for COVID from the beginning

00:03:54.420 have been based on two things, fear and profit. And neither of those things are reason. And that's

00:04:01.240 generally how I like to go about policymaking is through reason. And that's not how it's ever

00:04:07.640 been handled. I totally agree with you. Do you think that that view, because I've heard other

00:04:12.640 left-wingers say this, though it seems to be maybe a minority view on the Democrat side,

00:04:17.000 just knowing the party, do you think that the majority of Democrats are with Biden on this

00:04:22.240 and keep locking down and keep wearing masks? Or do you think they're ready to move on?

00:04:26.300 Okay. So when you say the majority of Democrats, okay, that's a very interesting thing because

00:04:30.920 technically I'm one. I'm registered as one. I live in a closed primary state, so I have no option for

00:04:37.060 myself. But I don't agree with them. I don't support their policy. I don't like Joe. And I don't think

00:04:42.860 the majority of people do. So when you say Democrats, like, yeah, there's going to be

00:04:47.420 certain establishment, right, you know, blue or dye people that are just going to say yes to whatever

00:04:52.080 he said. But I don't think most people support him. I think his poll numbers show that.

00:04:56.700 I think you're right about that. I mean, you know, the poll numbers are in the doldrums and it's not

00:05:01.440 just true of Biden. It's true for the entire administration. Kamala's down at 35% or something

00:05:05.800 right now. Buttigieg has been there around the whole time. He was the next one they kind of wanted to make

00:05:10.140 happen. Good luck with that. Yeah, I agree with you. I don't think he's going anywhere.

00:05:15.160 So then what does that mean for the party? Because I don't think that your anti-establishment,

00:05:20.780 anti-Biden perspective is particularly fringe in the Democrat Party. If you look policy after policy

00:05:25.880 right now, it would seem to me that the majority or at least a huge number of Democrats really don't

00:05:31.500 like what Biden is doing. So what does that mean for 2022 and 2024?

00:05:36.580 Oh, I think it's very easy. We're going to get the Dems are going to get their assets handed to

00:05:41.600 them this year. And I am actually and I've been saying this for a very long time. I truly believe

00:05:46.840 your next president is going to either be Donald Trump or Ron DeSantis. And and the Democrats are

00:05:54.100 the only people that don't seem to know this. Actually, in Florida, they're extremely delusional.

00:05:58.260 In Florida, they're actually running a race against DeSantis this year for a governor that they have

00:06:04.080 zero chance of winning. And in my mind, he's not even running that. He already won that. He's he's

00:06:09.040 running for president already. So the Democrats, at least in Florida, are very behind the eight ball.

00:06:14.040 I think they're living in a fantasy land. And again, I'm referring to the people on the inside,

00:06:19.080 the establishment Democrats, not just everybody who's registered as a Democrat.

00:06:22.880 So is your issue with the party that they they're not enough like DeSantis? You know,

00:06:28.040 we've got to go. They've got to go much further to the right. Or are you hitting them from the left?

00:06:32.000 Oh, I'm left of them for sure. Yeah, I'm left of them for sure. But my issue with all of it

00:06:39.980 is the corruption. If like I would support, let me tell you, I will support and I and I will do and

00:06:46.860 I am doing that actually right now in North Carolina. I will support a non-corporate Republican

00:06:51.600 over a corporate Democrat. So for me, it comes down to who do you work for and who pays your salary?

00:06:58.520 And the way I see it is they they're supposed to work for us. Those are our employees. They're

00:07:03.000 extremely insubordinate. And as a result, we can't get policy that the majority of people want.

00:07:09.540 So I don't support anybody who's a corporate whore. And that goes for both sides of the aisle. 0.99

00:07:14.380 I remember a lot of my friends in L.A., some of whom were pretty prominent left wingers,

00:07:18.940 actually. Before 2016, they said if the Democrats nominate Hillary, she's going to lose. I won't vote

00:07:24.660 for her. My friends won't vote for her because she's this absolute corporate establishment shill. 1.00

00:07:31.380 And she won't offer us a choice. It'll be an echo rather than a choice to parrot the language of the

00:07:38.780 right 50 years ago. So what would your advice be right now? You're in the room. You've got all those

00:07:44.940 crooked Democrat establishment types there who are just trying to run the same old playbook.

00:07:48.760 What would you tell them to do to have a chance against a Trump, against a DeSantis,

00:07:53.560 against whoever the nominee is going to be?

00:07:55.820 Right now, the movement is populism. OK, it's populism on the left. It's populism on the right.

00:08:01.380 And I said this in 16. I said to people, I said, if you don't support Bernie, you're getting Trump.

00:08:07.040 That's it. Hillary has no chance of winning. I knew that then. I understand it because she's horrible. 1.00

00:08:14.560 Uh, there's nothing that would have made me vote for her. And so, you know, they are not responding

00:08:20.740 to what people want and particularly what labor needs. If you're not, see, labor is the unifying

00:08:27.040 force amongst us. If you go to a labor rally, for example, you're going to meet reds and blues there.

00:08:33.040 And they're not going to be sitting there and arguing about wedge issues. They're going to be

00:08:36.660 sitting there and be fighting for a living wage at their, where they work. And those are things that

00:08:40.980 unify all of us. The Democrats need to get behind economic policy that will help people

00:08:47.420 and stop worrying about wedge issues that are just there to make them look like they have some sort of

00:08:52.560 like moral high ground. They're extremely sanctimonious. They don't offer any real

00:08:57.580 substance of strategy or anything that will help regular people get themselves out of the mess that

00:09:02.740 we're in right now. You know, you're focusing on something that's so insightful, which is,

00:09:07.720 look, I'm a culture warrior. I think some of the cultural issues are important,

00:09:11.580 especially now on education. I think they drive voters. But I think you're right on this labor 0.83

00:09:15.520 point. Historically speaking, the party that can speak to American workers and can talk that language

00:09:21.000 and offer them something very often does well because you get red and you get blue. And which

00:09:26.140 the party of Pittsburgh tends to do a little bit better than the party of Paris. And right now,

00:09:31.520 Democrats have made themselves the party of Paris. I've got to let you go. I'm up against a break.

00:09:35.580 Jen, where can people find you? I am at generational change on YouTube, Spotify,

00:09:41.220 and on iTunes. And our website is generational change dot com. That's generational with a J.

00:09:47.600 And I'm at Jen FL 23 on Twitter. I love that. But next time you come back by that time,

00:09:53.640 I hope I will have a cool pun for my podcast title. We'll need a little bit of time to work

00:09:58.320 on it. Maybe you can offer some suggestions. If I come up with something good, I'll give it to you.

00:10:02.080 I don't even see you. So yeah, but if I think of something really good, I'll offer it to you.

00:10:06.940 Please do. Email it over to me. I appreciate it, Jen. Jen Perlman, thank you so much for coming on.

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00:11:28.560 You know, I have to tell you, I expected more support for Joe Biden's policies from Jen,

00:11:36.080 from a Democrat candidate. But when you look at the poll numbers, maybe I shouldn't have,

00:11:40.740 actually. Because as she said, she said, look, I'm not a Republican. I don't support Republicans.

00:11:46.500 But a lot of Democrats don't support what Biden is doing right now. The poll numbers reflect that.

00:11:51.260 I think the White House knows it. Frankly, I think that's why they're pushing the COVID stuff

00:11:54.780 is because I think they know when they're looking at how little support they have

00:11:58.540 among even Democrats. When you look about something like the Florida law, the White House went all in

00:12:03.980 opposing the Florida education law. And yet the majority of Democrats support the Florida education law

00:12:09.100 that is being dishonestly called the Don't Say Gay Bill. So if you look at the electoral map,

00:12:16.060 if you look at the voters and likely voters, Democrats are getting crushed right now.

00:12:20.480 So it would seem to me their only chance to do even somewhat well in November is to rig the election,

00:12:27.320 is to send out all those widespread mail-in ballots that are totally open to abuse,

00:12:32.520 is to extend election day to election month, is to do all the sorts of stuff they did in 2020

00:12:37.520 that years ago even Barack Obama admitted was extremely crooked and which in some cases

00:12:42.040 is prohibited by state laws and state constitutions. I think that's what they're going for. I also think

00:12:47.680 that there is a second issue here behind the mask on public transportation. And I haven't heard anyone

00:12:57.200 talking about this. I think that Biden is afraid that if he lifts the mask mandates on public

00:13:04.920 transportation, then the return to airlines, the return to travel is going to be so great that it's

00:13:11.440 going to drive oil prices up even higher. This makes perfect sense to me. You're already seeing

00:13:16.960 people going back to travel, but there are still impediments to it. It's still very uncomfortable.

00:13:21.480 A lot of people still say, I'm not going to wear the mask. Well, right now we're in an all-time high

00:13:26.740 in terms of gas prices, certainly at the pump. Oil prices are going through the roof. I think part of

00:13:32.820 the reason that they're forcing people to keep wearing these dumb masks is just to keep oil prices 0.98

00:13:37.160 somewhat down compared to where they could be. It's a little bit cynical, but I don't think there's 0.97

00:13:43.560 any depth of cynicism to which the Biden administration will not sink. From the very

00:13:49.260 beginning, they have used COVID as an excuse to get the political outcomes that they want that are

00:13:56.080 sometimes even unrelated to COVID. Dr. Fauci has admitted this. Dr. Fauci, who I, you know,

00:14:02.620 I hate to say I told you so, but I told you he was coming back. He went into witness protection for a

00:14:06.740 few weeks, but he's coming back. He was just on MSNBC. He was discussing the lockdowns in China,

00:14:12.680 the very heavy lockdowns in China. And he said, well, in a way it's sort of kind of makes sense because

00:14:16.900 you just use lockdowns to create incentives to get people to do what you want them to do.

00:14:22.440 China has a number of problems, two of which are that their complete lockdown,

00:14:30.440 which was their approach, a strictest lockdown that you'd never be able to implement

00:14:35.080 in the United States, although that prevents the spread of infection. And remember early on,

00:14:41.980 they were saying, and I think accurately, that they were doing better than almost anybody else.

00:14:46.760 But lockdown has its consequences. You use lockdowns to get people vaccinated so that when

00:14:54.260 you open up, you won't have a surge of infections because you're dealing with an immunologically naive

00:15:01.080 population to the virus because they've not really been exposed because of the lockdown.

00:15:08.020 So many things that Dr. Fauci says here are so revealing. One, he changes his argument for lockdowns.

00:15:14.980 Remember, the original argument for lockdowns was you need to flatten the curve,

00:15:18.860 slow the spread. The reason for lockdowns is so that you don't overwhelm the hospital system.

00:15:24.600 You're still going to get the same number of people infected, but if you spread it out,

00:15:27.840 you won't go over the capacity of the hospital system so people won't needlessly die. That was

00:15:32.220 the argument. They never made the argument, yeah, we're going to lock down so that we can force you

00:15:36.780 all to take this experimental shot. They never made that argument because if they made that argument,

00:15:40.760 people would have said two words to them. The words aren't happy birthday and they would have

00:15:43.900 ignored the lockdowns. So he said, no, it's about flattening the curve and not overwhelming the

00:15:47.620 hospital system. Now Fauci completely changes his argument. No, it's about, it's actually about

00:15:51.480 getting people to take the shot. Furthermore, when he says that America is not going to engage in a

00:15:57.160 Chinese style lockdown, he's saying it with regret. He's saying that kind of a lockdown could never

00:16:05.040 work in America, but the Chinese were doing much better than we were. Much better. What they're 1.00

00:16:13.480 doing is good. If only we could do that, but we have this damn democracy thing. We have this stupid 0.99

00:16:18.700 constitutional system that prevents us from doing that. So he says, yeah, don't worry, we're not 0.99

00:16:23.640 going to go where China's going. If only we could, would that it were so simple. And furthermore, I don't 0.83

00:16:29.520 believe him that we can't go where China's going. Dr. Fauci said at the beginning of all the COVID

00:16:33.900 nonsense. He said, you're not going to see lockdowns. They're not going to lock down New

00:16:38.080 York or Los Angeles. I can't even imagine them doing that. And then what do they do? They do

00:16:42.640 that for a lot more than two weeks. That's for sure. And they're probably going to do it again.

00:16:48.060 So nothing he says here is true or honest. All of it is deceptive. And you can't even believe what

00:16:53.600 he's saying now because he's contradicting what he previously had said. The only thing I believe

00:16:59.420 out of Fauci from that whole comment is that he views lockdowns and public health measures in general

00:17:06.780 as major incentives to get people to do whatever sort of political policy he wants them to engage

00:17:16.720 in. That's what it's about. And sometimes it's a little more heavy handed than at other times.

00:17:21.820 Right now, if you're flying through Dallas Love Field, one of the airports in Dallas,

00:17:29.160 you might encounter ornery TSA agents. You might encounter people yelling at you to put your mask

00:17:37.340 on behind the counters. And you might encounter seven foot tall robots who threaten to call the

00:17:43.440 police if you don't wear your mask properly. This is not the plot of some kind of Arnold Schwarzenegger

00:17:50.580 movie. This is not some dystopian, crazy fantasy coming out of my tinfoil hat fever dreams.

00:17:57.660 This is being reported right now in Fortune magazine. Dallas airport uses Robocops to enforce mask policy.

00:18:06.500 Listen to the nicest promotional best marketing that these robots have.

00:18:13.820 Welcome to Dallas Love Field Airport. All Ubers, Lyfts, taxis, and rental car shuttles are located on the lower level.

00:18:24.900 To access the lower level, please use an escalator or elevator to proceed downstairs.

00:18:30.640 The first thing that strikes me about these robots is, I don't think we're going to see Mrs. Robot anytime soon.

00:18:40.420 I don't know, not to be stereotypical or anything. I don't think the robots wear shoes.

00:18:44.540 But if they did, I think those shoes, they would be a little, how do you say, a little light in the loafers.

00:18:50.340 Just because, well, there's just something about the voice. Sounds sort of very nice and calm.

00:18:57.180 But they're not merely offering people directions. Oh, here's how you get to the gate. Oh, there's a delay. Oh, this.

00:19:03.700 The robots that are being tested out here might issue a verbal warning. This is a quote according to Fortune magazine.

00:19:11.620 They are looking through their cameras to determine whether a passenger is wearing a face mask, which is still mandated.

00:19:19.820 They might issue a verbal warning, if you're not, which could escalate in volume and severity if the infraction is not corrected.

00:19:26.280 And the system can also call on-site security or the police if necessary.

00:19:31.600 Are we living in China? I know these days, especially when we look at it foreign policy, it's very fashionable to say, we're here in the land of the free.

00:19:43.460 Thank goodness we're in the land of the free. Not like those autocratic regimes around the world, like Russia or certainly not like China.

00:19:51.940 That's good. Because our police enforcement robots speak English.

00:19:57.360 Our constant surveillance everywhere and our requirement to muzzle ourselves wherever we go, it's, it sounds a little nicer and I don't know.

00:20:08.620 It's very difficult to see the difference between the United States and China these days.

00:20:12.940 Increasingly, it's difficult.

00:20:14.780 I guess the only difference I can point out right now is that our movies are a little bit gayer.

00:20:21.400 I think that's the big difference at this point.

00:20:23.340 America in 2022, Biden's America, all the authoritarianism of China, but with movies that have a little bit more eccentric sex stuff.

00:20:33.020 Because that is, the Chinese regime right now is clamping down on some of the more woke and eccentric and radical sexual ideologies that the United States has been producing and exporting around the world.

00:20:45.880 So you've got, right now, Hollywood complaining about, for instance, the don't say gay bill in Florida, meaning the parental rights and education bill, which says you can't trans the five-year-olds.

00:20:57.760 Hollywood is saying this is horrible.

00:20:59.460 We're going to donate so much money against it.

00:21:01.160 Disney staging walkouts.

00:21:03.400 Disney is saying that they're going to fight this legislation in Florida, around the country.

00:21:06.820 And then Xi Jinping calls them up and says, hello, Mr. Disney, your movie, specifically the new Harry Potter movie, has six seconds of an allusion to a gay relationship.

00:21:20.780 Take it out or you don't have access to our market.

00:21:24.000 And what does Hollywood do?

00:21:24.900 Do you think they make a courageous and principled stand for the rights of LGBT?

00:21:29.400 LGBT, no, of course not. 0.99

00:21:30.940 They take the six seconds out.

00:21:33.580 Because no matter how woke they are, cash is king for these people.

00:21:39.480 And whether they're red, whether they're blue, their real ideology is green.

00:21:43.860 And so they take the money from the Chinese communists.

00:21:45.900 And what you're seeing is exactly what we're seeing at the border, exactly what we're seeing on Biden's COVID policy.

00:21:51.260 What you're seeing is greater care and consideration being given to foreign nationals than to American citizens.

00:22:00.020 By our own elites, by the ruling class, whether it's in the government or in corporate America.

00:22:06.760 They have no problem with authoritarianism whatsoever. 0.93

00:22:11.780 It's just that in America, they're going to make the movies a little bit more gay. 0.93

00:22:14.880 If that's really all that separates us from China, that's really sad. 0.68

00:22:19.960 Frankly, if China is saying, hey, none of this transgender stuff, you don't, we're with Florida. 0.89

00:22:25.640 You don't get to trans the kids in your movies.

00:22:27.680 Then you're going to be in this really bizarre scenario where we here in America are going to have to go find the Chinese cut of these movies to show our kids.

00:22:37.580 That's not the kind of situation you want your country to be in.

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00:24:09.180 Listen, I don't want to play as many clips from The View as I do.

00:24:13.880 Look, I don't want to.

00:24:15.040 I don't think The View matters that much.

00:24:17.080 I don't think The View really shapes political discourse.

00:24:19.840 I don't think it's the cause of political discourse, but I do think it's a symptom of it. 0.96

00:24:24.100 The reason that I play clips of Joy Behar saying stupid things or Whoopi Goldberg saying stupid things is not because I think they're influencing a whole lot of people. 0.99

00:24:33.240 Maybe some housewives in blue states. 1.00

00:24:37.520 Maybe, I don't know.

00:24:38.460 But it's because they are perfectly embodying the degradation of American political discourse.

00:24:46.820 Just the other day, they were talking about this issue of sexual ideology and LGBT and the terrible, awful Florida law that says you can't lop off the genitals of little kids and you can't talk about transgenderism in a kindergarten classroom.

00:25:00.620 Actually, you know, the Florida law doesn't even say that you can't actually trans the kids.

00:25:04.760 It just says you can't talk about transing the kids in certain classrooms.

00:25:08.260 Vivek Ramaswamy's been calling it the wait till eight bill.

00:25:11.300 Nine years old, you can try to transgender them, but eight, it's too far. 1.00

00:25:14.340 But The View and the left in general, they're very upset about this.

00:25:19.060 Take a listen to the great sophistication with which they're discussing the issue of sexual ethics.

00:25:25.040 Who decided that a traditional marriage is a man and a woman?

00:25:30.000 Who came up with this plan?

00:25:31.820 Well, everything that exists in nature, right?

00:25:34.900 People say it's unnatural, but isn't everything that exists in nature by definition is natural.

00:25:40.520 But is homosexuality even mentioned in the Bible?

00:25:43.220 I don't think it is.

00:25:43.900 I believe it is.

00:25:44.740 It is.

00:25:45.700 I like the other host.

00:25:46.920 Is it not?

00:25:47.740 No, Joy, it is.

00:25:49.840 I mean, it's definitely mentioned.

00:25:51.280 I know that Joy Behar has never cracked the spine of a Bible in her entire life, but no, it's mentioned.

00:25:57.140 And there's, you know, there's actually a kind of long history of debating sexual ethics and morality.

00:26:04.060 But what it boils down to, what they're actually expressing is this view that all that morality comes down to is if it feels good, do it.

00:26:12.740 I remember having the thought that, I don't know that woman's name, the guest on the show who said,

00:26:17.520 if it happens in nature, it's natural.

00:26:20.700 Come on, right?

00:26:21.300 It's cool.

00:26:21.760 So we should all do it.

00:26:22.740 I remember having that thought when I was seven years old.

00:26:26.440 I remember thinking, what do you mean?

00:26:27.840 How's there a difference between natural and artificial in food or in anything else when everything's got to come from nature originally?

00:26:36.140 Even if we make it in a laboratory, it's from nature because we're natural, you know, man, you know, right?

00:26:40.500 That's the kind of idea that a first or second grader has.

00:26:43.620 And then hopefully they move past that to a deeper level of discourse.

00:26:47.300 But her argument is that we need to sanction and even encourage all manner of sexual behavior,

00:26:54.040 or I guess any other kind of behavior, if anyone has a natural impulse to do it because it's natural and therefore good.

00:27:02.200 This gets to something we were talking about last night on the backstage show,

00:27:06.160 and it was a point that Drew kept driving home, which is we have a right to norms.

00:27:11.700 We have a right to standards.

00:27:14.080 This was the thesis of my book, Speechless, which the people who haven't read my book think it's a book about how censorship is terrible

00:27:20.780 and free speech is good and the left is bad and the right is good.

00:27:24.680 And the book is actually a little more nuanced than that.

00:27:27.140 And it says that we're actually looking at this issue in entirely the wrong way.

00:27:30.720 And Drew articulated it pretty well last night.

00:27:32.480 He said, we have a right to norms and standards.

00:27:35.980 Someone can be born with five fingers total, two and a half on each hand, and half a brain and missing a leg.

00:27:44.140 And you could say that's natural, right?

00:27:46.180 It happens in nature.

00:27:47.580 But it's a product of nature having imperfections.

00:27:52.320 And we all have imperfections.

00:27:53.960 And we all have things that are a little weird about us and that are a little bit off because this is a fallen world.

00:28:00.360 That doesn't mean that there are no standards.

00:28:02.780 It doesn't mean that people aren't supposed to have ten fingers and ten toes.

00:28:05.680 And sometimes people don't quite hit those standards.

00:28:09.100 It doesn't mean that society has to completely throw out all norms and all understanding of normative behavior.

00:28:17.740 We have a right to that.

00:28:18.680 It doesn't mean that we're going to be really mean to everybody and throw gay guys in prison or attach electrodes to people like the libs imagine that Mike Pence does or something.

00:28:31.680 But we are allowed to have norms.

00:28:33.360 We are allowed to say men and women are supposed to go together and they're complementary and that's at the center of human society because that's how we propagate the species.

00:28:44.440 And because men and women actually have something to offer to one another, not just physically but spiritually and emotionally and all sorts of things.

00:28:53.440 And that's good.

00:28:54.840 And that's what it works.

00:28:56.340 I think we're still allowed to say that.

00:28:57.820 What the Democrats who are upset about the Florida law are arguing is that we don't have a right to say that.

00:29:03.800 And it's an area where the conservatives don't really have an answer to it because what the conservatives have said, what the Democrats have said is the Florida law is about not saying gay.

00:29:13.840 And of course, the word gay doesn't appear anywhere in the Florida law.

00:29:17.500 So then the Republicans are coming in and they're saying, well, you might as well call it the don't say straight bill. 0.84

00:29:21.840 We just want sex completely out of the elementary school classrooms. 0.93

00:29:25.360 And it's mostly right, but it's a little bit wrong, too, because if you're reading a storybook, if you're reading a fairy tale to five-year-olds or six-year-olds in story time class, that might involve a marriage.

00:29:38.300 I think that's fine.

00:29:39.140 I don't think that's awful, terrible indoctrination for a story that's read in kindergarten to be about a family.

00:29:45.440 But I do think it would be wrong for the story read in kindergarten to be about a thruple living in Brooklyn. 0.98

00:29:50.440 I think husband and wife with two little cute kids and a dog in the yard, I think you should be allowed to read that story.

00:29:58.120 And I think transgender Sally marrying pansexual Jupiter and living in a co-op in Crown Heights, I don't think you should read that to kindergartners.

00:30:09.740 I think we're allowed to have norms and to say this behavior is actually normal behavior and ought to be encouraged.

00:30:16.940 And it doesn't mean that we're going to ostracize and be really mean to people who don't quite fit that mold, who don't want to do that, who don't want to live in that way.

00:30:25.920 But we do have a right to our standards and norms, which are collapsing all around the world right now.

00:30:32.720 That slippery slope that the conservatives were warning about for decades, that the libs always made fun of us for warning about.

00:30:38.200 Well, we're almost at the bottom of it.

00:30:39.900 We're about as far down as you can go.

00:30:41.140 There's a horrifying story just came out of Canada, out of America's hat here, which is important because Canada is a little further down the line on some of these crazy social policies.

00:30:53.080 But we very likely will end up where they are.

00:30:56.300 The headline is, woman with chemical sensitivities chose medically assisted death after failed bid to get better housing.

00:31:04.240 This is a woman, she's 51 years old in Ontario.

00:31:08.780 She says that she has severe sensitivities to chemicals and she chose assisted suicide to kill herself because she was living in Salvation Army housing and she couldn't get an apartment where she wasn't smelling cigarette smoke or where she wasn't smelling other cleaning materials.

00:31:25.720 And it was manageable before COVID, but then when the government locked her up at home during COVID, she couldn't get out.

00:31:32.960 And what she complained about too was that during COVID people were smoking more, people were cleaning more, so these chemicals were floating through the air.

00:31:40.460 She was hypersensitive to it, and so she chose to kill herself.

00:31:43.600 A lot of people are focusing on how awful it was that she couldn't find better housing because she had this medical condition.

00:31:48.600 It's worth pointing out, this medical condition probably doesn't exist.

00:31:51.980 This idea of a hypersensitivity to the smell of chemicals, there is no scientific evidence that there's any such thing.

00:31:59.080 It's not really a firm medical diagnosis.

00:32:01.780 There's a similar pseudo-medical condition called electromagnetic hypersensitivity.

00:32:07.660 It's actually the central plot point for the first few seasons of Better Call Saul, the spinoff of Breaking Bad.

00:32:14.740 It's not the central plot point, it's a very major plot point to it, that one of the characters thinks that he has a hypersensitivity to electricity, but he doesn't really.

00:32:22.620 It's really a mental condition.

00:32:25.440 And so I suspect, I don't, we don't know, there's no real scientific conclusion on this, but I suspect what happened here is a woman with some mental problems was driven mad, madder by COVID,

00:32:38.560 and doctors allowed an otherwise healthy 51-year-old woman to kill herself. 0.97

00:32:43.160 The problem here is not the cruel society that didn't get her a better apartment.

00:32:46.600 The problem here is assisted suicide, which should not be permitted anywhere at any time.

00:32:52.140 Because when it is permitted, and this is the perfect example of the slippery slope, I think the act is wrong in and of itself, and it should not be permitted.

00:32:59.340 And if people have the worst, most terrible conditions and a lot of pain, you can give them pain medication, you can give them palliative care, but you should not be allowed to kill yourself.

00:33:07.880 It's disordered and it's intrinsically wrong.

00:33:10.060 But the slippery slope is a big problem too.

00:33:12.000 The minute they legalize these things, especially in Europe and Belgium and the Netherlands, all of a sudden it wasn't just the most terminally ill who have days to live, all of a sudden then it was people who have emotional problems.

00:33:21.300 It was people who actually changed their mind, but they were killed anyway.

00:33:24.460 It was kids, some kids now, teenagers, are allowed to kill themselves like this. 0.86

00:33:28.040 This is the sign of a truly sick society.

00:33:31.900 And unlike electromagnetic sensitivity or chemical sensitivity, this sickness is real and we can measure it and it's getting worse.

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00:35:13.980 How do we make the country less radical, less crazy, and more conservative?

00:35:33.680 We've had lots of ideas in recent decades, and they haven't really worked.

00:35:37.240 Sometimes you'll hear conservatives talk about our big victories.

00:35:39.620 Oh, we've had big victories with the judges and the courts and on policy.

00:35:44.920 Have we?

00:35:45.440 Because now we're transing the kids. 0.97

00:35:47.100 So it seems like we've lost every single battle.

00:35:49.240 It seems like marriage has been completely redefined, and the family has been cracked.

00:35:53.860 I hope not irreparably, but possibly.

00:35:56.800 Our foreign policy is in complete disarray.

00:35:59.580 Our economy is in the doldrums.

00:36:01.860 Gas is through the roof.

00:36:02.960 Inflation is at all-time highs.

00:36:04.520 We've got regularly political activists burning down the country, crime spiking everywhere,

00:36:10.260 and now we can't even say that boys are girls, or boys aren't girls, rather, unless you're

00:36:15.600 a biologist.

00:36:16.220 And even then, you're not allowed to say.

00:36:17.240 The Supreme Court nominee can't say what a woman is. 1.00

00:36:19.200 She was picked because she's a woman, and she can't even say that she's a woman. 0.54

00:36:22.380 So no, I don't think we've won.

00:36:23.580 I think we've lost.

00:36:24.380 I think we've lost everything.

00:36:25.900 So whatever the old playbook was, which is be quiet on the social issues and placate

00:36:33.500 whatever handful of squishy corporate billionaires and do whatever they want us to do and just

00:36:40.300 cut taxes, that's not working.

00:36:42.960 So we've got to think outside the box.

00:36:45.240 How are we going to make the country more conservative?

00:36:47.500 Charlie Kirk just offered an idea.

00:36:49.680 His idea is stop building tall buildings and build flatter buildings.

00:36:57.460 We have a huge housing crisis in our country, the likes of which we have not seen in a long

00:37:01.240 period of time.

00:37:01.840 But I believe that we need to build horizontally, not vertically.

00:37:04.920 It's one of my speeches.

00:37:06.280 Developers don't like it when I say this, but it's true.

00:37:08.980 The higher the building, the more liberal the voter.

00:37:10.800 It just is.

00:37:11.980 So if you are, the closer to the ground you are, the more conservative you are.

00:37:16.640 We should encourage people to spread horizontally and not vertically.

00:37:20.600 Look at Denver.

00:37:21.380 The higher the high rises, has Denver become less free or more free?

00:37:24.860 It's become a dystopian nightmare.

00:37:26.880 You guys know that.

00:37:27.700 Now you might say, Charlie, that's a correlation of the causation.

00:37:29.700 Think about it.

00:37:30.440 If you're on the 32nd floor renting, not owning, if you're not in the weeds and in the yard

00:37:34.960 and understanding what it takes to grow food and to maintain land, are you going to be more

00:37:38.640 or less likely to actually be a conservative?

00:37:40.520 The higher the building, every single study shows they become more liberal over time.

00:37:44.460 It's happening in Phoenix, happened in Denver, happened in Atlanta, happened in Dallas,

00:37:47.180 happened in Chicago, happened everywhere.

00:37:48.680 And yet few people actually say that out loud.

00:37:50.800 Whatever.

00:37:51.860 All the libs are making fun of Charlie and some of the really fancy, fashionable conservatives. 1.00

00:37:56.500 They're all making fun of Charlie, you idiot. 1.00

00:37:58.920 Oh, here he goes. 1.00

00:38:00.120 Here goes crazy Charlie Kirk saying what?

00:38:02.600 There's a problem with skyscrapers or architecture and that's what's making the country more liberal.

00:38:10.000 Yeah, in part.

00:38:11.720 Yeah, he's totally right.

00:38:12.800 He's totally right.

00:38:13.700 This is not only true.

00:38:15.420 I saw this clip because the left-wing organization Media Matters tweeted it out and I thought,

00:38:19.660 oh, good job, Media Matters.

00:38:21.000 I'm glad that you are making this go viral because not only is what Charlie said obviously

00:38:25.720 true, but it's one of the most insightful things I've ever heard him say.

00:38:31.160 And this is something that conservatives once understood.

00:38:35.540 Place matters.

00:38:38.340 Architecture matters.

00:38:40.240 Frankly, it matters a lot more than tax rates.

00:38:42.460 Roger Scruton, the late conservative philosopher, one of the more important conservative philosophers

00:38:47.820 of our age.

00:38:48.820 He just died a few years ago.

00:38:51.320 Scruton said, if you want to conserve a place, if you want to conserve a country, if you want

00:38:58.200 people to be more conservative, they need to like where they live.

00:39:02.900 It needs to be beautiful.

00:39:06.380 Every place that you are in is either going to slightly elevate your spirits or lower your

00:39:11.200 spirits.

00:39:11.840 One of the best things that Donald Trump did as president, not that it's going to have much

00:39:15.940 of an effect probably, is that he signed an executive order called Make Our Federal Buildings

00:39:20.280 beautiful again.

00:39:22.320 Because, you know, you walk through Washington, D.C.

00:39:24.180 On the one hand, you see this beautiful neoclassical architecture and you think, this is big.

00:39:29.240 This is beautiful.

00:39:30.380 This is inspiring.

00:39:31.300 This lifts my eyes up.

00:39:33.420 You look at the Supreme Court.

00:39:35.380 It's a beautiful building that raises you up, that makes you stand a little straighter,

00:39:41.220 that makes you feel a little bit more dignified.

00:39:42.980 And then you look at, I don't know, the African American History Museum or the Native American

00:39:48.100 History Museum or any of these modern buildings that are ugly or even beyond those sort of

00:39:53.140 monument type things on the mall.

00:39:54.760 You look at just the office buildings that were built in the 60s, 70s up until the present.

00:39:59.860 And they're soulless and they're ugly and they're brutal and they lower your spirits.

00:40:03.840 It's like the difference between you come into New York, but they actually just fixed up

00:40:06.880 Penn Station.

00:40:07.460 It's a lot nicer now.

00:40:08.220 But before they did that, you come into New York and you go into Grand Central.

00:40:12.980 And that's on the east side.

00:40:14.120 You walk in to the Grand Central train station and you feel big.

00:40:17.720 You feel like you're in the city.

00:40:18.940 You feel like you're, if you can make it here, you can make it anywhere.

00:40:22.100 You come into Madison Square Garden, right?

00:40:24.840 You're underneath Madison Square Garden in the Penn Station that they had after they knocked

00:40:29.280 down the beautiful old one.

00:40:30.300 You feel like a rat running through a maze.

00:40:32.320 You don't feel dignified. 0.94

00:40:33.300 You feel dirty.

00:40:34.380 You feel low.

00:40:35.340 You feel small.

00:40:36.940 This is a really important point.

00:40:39.000 I hope conservatives get it.

00:40:39.900 Edmund Burke, who was considered the father of modern conservative thought, he was an aesthetic

00:40:44.520 philosopher.

00:40:46.380 He was a man who thought about what beauty does to us.

00:40:49.980 There's a line, Charlie's line, then I'll get off this point, but it really struck me

00:40:53.300 as so true.

00:40:55.040 It was almost Chestertonian.

00:40:57.520 G.K.

00:40:57.880 Chesterton, a great, great writer, conservative Christian writer.

00:41:01.620 He made this point in one of his detective stories about Father Brown.

00:41:05.940 He had this detective series, the Father Brown series, and he puts in the words of, in the

00:41:10.740 mouth of Father Brown, this statement.

00:41:12.660 I think there's something rather dangerous about standing on these high places, even to

00:41:16.800 pray.

00:41:17.820 Heights were made to be looked at, not to be looked from. 1.00

00:41:21.720 Look at that blacksmith, for instance, a good man, but not a Christian. 1.00

00:41:24.540 Hard, imperious, unforgiving.

00:41:26.400 Well, his Scotch religion was made up by men who prayed on hills and high crags and learned

00:41:31.140 to look down on the world more than to look up to heaven.

00:41:34.360 Humility is the mother of giants.

00:41:37.360 One sees great things from the valley, only small things from the peak.

00:41:42.540 I knew a man who began by worshiping with others before the altar, but who grew fond of

00:41:46.700 high and lonely places to pray from, corners or niches in the belfry or the spire.

00:41:52.120 And once in one of those dizzy places where the whole world seemed to turn under him like

00:41:56.960 a wheel, his brain turned also, and he fancied he was God.

00:42:01.040 He thought it was given to him to judge the world and strike down the sinner. 0.98

00:42:03.900 He would never have had such a thought if he had been kneeling with other men upon a

00:42:08.120 floor.

00:42:08.600 But he saw all men walking about like insects. 0.91

00:42:11.640 He saw one especially strutting just below him, insolent and evident by a bright green

00:42:16.120 hat of poisonous insect.

00:42:19.840 Perfectly sums up that those two views of the world.

00:42:23.540 When you're up in that high rise in New York, you look down, the world is so small.

00:42:27.060 All those little people, they look like ants.

00:42:29.380 But when you're down on the ground, on your knees, looking up into the sky, into the mountains,

00:42:34.680 you feel your own place.

00:42:35.960 You feel that you are small.

00:42:37.040 You have a little bit of humility and you see the greatness and beauty of the world.

00:42:41.800 So all of that to say, Charlie's right.

00:42:43.580 Let's build more beautiful buildings and stop building soulless high rises in the cities

00:42:47.360 that are turning all of our countrymen into big libs.

00:42:50.440 You know what's not turning our countrymen into big libs?

00:42:52.380 CNN, because nobody's watching it.

00:42:54.640 There are new numbers out from CNN+.

00:42:57.720 CNN+, is CNN's version of the Daily Wire.

00:43:02.120 CNN is this old cable company.

00:43:04.820 They've been a very prominent force in cable for decades now.

00:43:08.440 And then they look at our company, the Daily Wire, which has exploded as a digital streaming

00:43:12.900 service.

00:43:13.820 And they say, okay, we want to do that.

00:43:15.480 So they start a product called CNN+.

00:43:17.540 It's a subscription digital streaming service.

00:43:20.840 And they hire Chris Wallace, this big name.

00:43:24.320 He's been in journalism forever.

00:43:25.460 His father was a huge name in journalism.

00:43:26.960 They hire him away from Fox News.

00:43:28.500 He's going to be the big anchor on the CNN+, platform.

00:43:31.220 How many people do you think are using CNN+, according to a report that just came out from

00:43:35.480 CNBC?

00:43:37.400 Fewer than 10,000 daily users.

00:43:40.400 Think about right now, just on this one show, when you think of all the platforms that we're

00:43:48.640 on, just on this one show here, we have hundreds of thousands of listeners and viewers just here.

00:43:55.940 Just one show.

00:43:56.780 How many shows do we have?

00:43:58.120 How many different people are engaging with the different shows every day?

00:44:01.240 Just the subscriber base, just the subscribers alone to Daily Wire, it's 600,000.

00:44:05.760 We started in a pool house seven years ago.

00:44:07.860 CNN is supposed to be the biggest name in news.

00:44:10.900 CNN can't muster 10,000 daily listeners.

00:44:14.240 Chris Wallace is apparently blowing his casket over this.

00:44:17.280 There's a report that just came out that Chris Wallace is having daily breakdowns.

00:44:23.780 This is from the reporter John Nicosia over the miserable launch of CNN+.

00:44:28.860 He says he wants a TV show where he's going to walk.

00:44:31.320 It's just he can't get over how terrible the launch has been.

00:44:35.240 I know why the launch is so terrible.

00:44:37.060 I know because for the first time in a long time, CNN is open to the market.

00:44:45.320 For a long time, CNN has not really had to be accountable to market forces because CNN gets

00:44:53.620 bundled up in cable.

00:44:54.800 It's got a long legacy name and because they put it on in airports.

00:44:59.480 People don't sit down on their couch and watch CNN.

00:45:02.020 People walk by CNN when they're going from terminal to terminal in the airport.

00:45:06.160 But it doesn't matter because the cable companies aren't going to remove it because it's all bundled

00:45:09.960 up together and it doesn't matter what viewers want.

00:45:11.960 Now, CNN is offering a service that actually requires them to provide value for their customers

00:45:18.880 and it's failing because they don't provide value to their customers because the only way

00:45:23.120 the libs are able to push their nonsense is by forcing it down our throats at gunpoint. 0.97

00:45:28.420 And when they don't do that, it doesn't work, which is why the libs are clamping up before 0.99

00:45:36.120 November because they know, gosh, this stuff ain't selling.

00:45:40.340 This is, what we're offering is not playing in Peoria.

00:45:43.360 So we've got to, we've got to lock down again.

00:45:45.100 We got to extend the mask mandate.

00:45:46.280 We got to push the mail-in ballots.

00:45:47.420 We got to do whatever we can to be, to avoid being answerable to the voters.

00:45:52.320 Look at Kamala Harris's job approval rating. 1.00

00:45:54.920 So Kamala Harris's job approval rating, I misspoke. 0.98

00:45:58.120 I misspoke earlier when I was talking to Jen.

00:46:00.860 I said that Kamala's job approval rating is 35%. 0.98

00:46:05.060 That's true, but only in one specific context.

00:46:09.440 Kamala's approval rating is actually in the 20s nationally.

00:46:13.540 The 35% number comes from California.

00:46:18.860 Kamala's state that she represented in the U.S. Senate where she was the attorney general. 0.98

00:46:26.040 Kamala's approval rating is 35% in one of the bluest states in America.

00:46:30.600 That's not according to some right-wing poll.

00:46:32.140 That's according to the Berkeley Institute of Government Studies.

00:46:35.820 Berkeley, it's the most left-wing place in, of any campus just about.

00:46:42.500 35% approval for Kamala, 45% disapprove.

00:46:47.460 So what are they going to do?

00:46:48.640 They've got to bring back COVID.

00:46:51.640 COVID is going to help them.

00:46:53.440 COVID is going to help them on oil prices, very possibly.

00:46:56.880 And more importantly, COVID is going to help them at the ballot box.

00:46:59.240 So they've got to bring it back.

00:47:02.480 What they are selling, people just know is not true.

00:47:04.920 There is a news story.

00:47:06.180 I'll leave you on this note today.

00:47:08.080 There's a news story out of Metro.

00:47:11.120 Headline is, prepare your pullover if you're driving, sit down.

00:47:14.860 Headline is, 1.00

00:47:16.200 Ex-soldier exposed her penis and used wheelie bin as sex toy in public. 1.00

00:47:21.860 There it is. 1.00

00:47:24.080 I'm not making that up.

00:47:25.660 The story is tabloid fodder enough.

00:47:31.040 But then there's a scandal on top of the scandal that the tabloid is using her to refer to him.

00:47:37.380 I think it's pretty clear that it's him. 1.00

00:47:39.140 Ex-soldier is using her penis. 1.00

00:47:41.220 Is she now? 1.00

00:47:43.240 Is that the case for her? 0.98

00:47:44.640 No.

00:47:44.800 And people just know it's bonkers. 0.88

00:47:49.040 This is how I feel about squishy Republicans.

00:47:53.020 I'm all for building coalitions and I get it.

00:47:55.060 A lot of people are to the left of me, but we can maybe still form coalitions.

00:47:59.320 The transgender thing is a line in the sand for me. 1.00

00:48:03.580 If you've got a Spencer Cox or an Asa Hutchinson or these squish Republican governors

00:48:07.480 who cave on the transgender issue, Spencer Cox now using preferred pronouns,

00:48:12.640 you're out of my party. 0.88

00:48:14.020 You're out.

00:48:14.500 I don't, and I think this is true for a lot of voters, not even just Republicans,

00:48:17.740 but normal Democrats, normal people in the middle.

00:48:20.420 They say, no, if you're going to, 0.99

00:48:22.900 whatever political view has led us to the point that we're referring to her penis, 0.95

00:48:28.400 whatever it is, I don't know what your views on immigration and crime and taxes. 0.87

00:48:32.500 I don't know.

00:48:33.380 Whatever led us to this moment, I'm against it.

00:48:36.140 My political ideology is whatever prevents us from using the pronoun her with male anatomical

00:48:46.300 features, okay?

00:48:47.300 Because we just know it.

00:48:48.400 You don't need a PhD in political philosophy to know that that is completely wrong.

00:48:52.580 And the voters know it about what the Biden administration is selling.

00:48:56.520 It's why they don't have a lot of support right now in that administration.

00:48:59.840 And it's why they're trying to clamp down on our rights to express our views because it's

00:49:04.460 the only way they're going to hold on to any power.

00:49:06.640 I'm Michael Knowles.

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00:49:58.200 Today on The Matt Walsh Show, the left screeches in horror as Elon Musk launches his hostile

00:50:03.220 takeover of Twitter, threatening to allow the open exchange of ideas, the horror.

00:50:07.840 Also, the suspect in the New York City subway mass shooting has an extensive criminal history

00:50:12.160 and yet was allowed to remain on the street until now.

00:50:14.540 That's what criminal justice reform gets you.

00:50:16.220 Plus, Kentucky effectively outlaws abortion. 0.69

00:50:18.600 NFTs are once again revealed to be a ridiculous scam, and the ladies of The View descend into hilarious 0.98

00:50:23.440 incoherence while attempting to discuss gay marriage. 0.97

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The Michael Knowles Show - April 14, 2022

Ep. 984 - Covid Mandates And Gay Robots

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