00:03:00.220Or the part where he said that essentially the Syrians should take over Lebanon, which is an interesting idea that worked brilliantly between 1970 and 2005 when the Syrians literally ran Lebanon and it didn't go so hot.0.87
00:03:12.980So just from where I sit on this, there were five main goals of this war.0.74
00:04:29.840The top line of it, though, that the administration seems keen to make clear,
00:04:34.720and we'll see what happens over the weekend in Geneva,
00:04:37.560is that Iran, they'll open the Strait of Hormuz.
00:04:40.800there will be no tolls whatsoever for 60 days. Then again, this is what I'm hearing. Don't shoot
00:04:46.220the messenger. This is what I'm hearing from the U.S. officials. No, no, no, no. You say for 60
00:04:49.560days very, very softly at the end. No, no. But then they even address that. And afterward,
00:04:54.580you know, they said then there will have to be cooperation among the Gulf states to figure out
00:04:59.680what the protocol looks like moving forward. And the argument, at least from the admin, is
00:05:03.100that the other Gulf states are not going to allow Iran to have a toll on the straits. So take that
00:05:07.780for what it's worth. Then, in terms of the sanctions relief, no sanctions relief whatsoever.
00:05:12.740Iranian oil can flow, but none of the many other sanctions that Trump himself boosted up on Iran
00:05:17.580will be lifted until after the deal, and crucially, until after we get nuclear dust.
00:05:22.940Now, the actual way in which we would get the nuclear dust seems to be a little unclear. It
00:05:27.980could be us actually going in ourselves and taking it. But anyway, that would have to be figured out.
00:05:32.920Then this $300 billion from the Gulf states, that again would not include the United States giving a single penny necessarily to it.
00:05:40.220It would be the Gulf states themselves investing in Iran to help rebuild Iran, which I think actually could be a decent thing.
00:05:47.860And crucially what it would do is stop the choking off of the Strait of Hormuz and 20% of the world's oil supply.0.70
00:05:54.880On top of the destruction of the Iranian military, the obliteration, at least for now, of Iran's nuclear program, and inspections and all the rest.0.75
00:06:03.640Now, with that said, Ben, you said that the point of this, the chief point of this war was to end Iran's nuclear ambitions permanently.0.91
00:06:10.720And I think that'd be great. I'd love to do it.0.89
00:06:12.680But I don't think there's any world this side of heaven in which you end Iran's weapons.
00:06:22.200So I just want to make clear that the five goals that I laid out at the beginning were not just things that I thought were good, which is why I agreed with them.
00:06:28.500They were explicit goals of the administration.0.94
00:06:30.520Do you think we can permanently end Iran's nuclear program?0.89
00:06:34.020Yes, I do think we can permanently end Iran's nuclear program.0.58
00:06:36.460Iran will never seek another nuclear weapon.
00:06:39.340OK, the way that you would do that is you would bomb Harg Island.
00:06:41.500You would bomb the South Pirates at Gasfield.0.89
00:06:43.000You would permanently defenestrate their economy and make it literally impossible for them to fund the rebuilding of any of those efforts.0.96
00:06:49.000and you would just give overwatch to our allies in the region like Israel and UAE and pull out.
00:07:39.340By the way, one solution here would have been, I mean, the other solution in terms of opening up the Strait of Hormuz.
00:07:44.520Well, you just said the alternative is civil war, but that's endless war.
00:07:47.000No, that is not what I said. What you said is the alternative is civil war. What I said is
00:07:52.180a permanently weak regime with the oversight of our allies looking over their nuclear facilities,
00:07:57.660their missile facilities, raids every so often, mowing the grass, as they like to say in the
00:08:01.100Middle East. That is one possibility. Another possibility would have been that we allow for
00:08:05.800and help our allies in the region, including Saudi, UAE, Bahrain, and yes, Qatar, to actually
00:08:10.080run the Strait of Hormuz. We tried to do that with Project Freedom for five seconds before the
00:08:14.360president was convinced out of it by somebody. The notion that the only two choices here are
00:08:19.520permanent, endless, bloody war or complete surrender. That is a Barack Obama model.
00:08:25.560That is what Barack Obama said about the 2015 Iran deal. And basically, if you're going to use
00:08:29.440that same logic here, then, you know, I don't think it was good then. I don't think it's good
00:08:32.740now. And I think that it also happens to be untrue. And the sort of concessions that are
00:08:36.940being made right now to Iran in again, this is an MOU. I want to emphasize again, the MOU is
00:08:43.040preliminary. OK, so the only thing that I'm deeply upset about right now in the MOU,
00:08:47.680they're really a couple of things. There's what's clearly not in even any future negotiations.
00:08:52.240Support for terrorism is not in any future negotiations. Ballistic missile negotiations,
00:08:56.020not in any future negotiations. None of that is part of the MOU. When it comes to the nuclear.
00:09:00.440Hold on, Ben. In a way, Hezbollah is not written out in the MOU in the 14-point document.0.97
00:09:06.440But what the administration is at least saying about the MOU is that because we are not giving
00:09:10.780iran any money we're not freezing unfreezing any assets we're not lifting all these sanctions
00:09:14.560but immediately that's not true okay hold on hold on hold on hold on michael one one second
00:09:18.860one one clarification no one one clarification on the sanctions then you go back to the terrorism
00:09:22.460okay clarification on the sanctions there are several different things we're talking about
00:09:26.260when we talk about sanctions one is the full-scale sanctions on the iran on the iranian economy those
00:09:31.120don't all go away these sanctions on the export of oil and petrochemicals go away immediately
00:09:35.920OK, immediately. And that includes in the provisions, it includes the removal of financial sanctions and insurance sanctions on any of that stuff.
00:09:44.580So right now, before the war, for example, there were, in fact, sanctions on Iran's oil capacity in terms of export and import in that they had to use, for example, ghost fleets in order to move their oil around because anybody who was attempting to do business with them was sanctioned.
00:09:58.240That all goes away immediately, not in 60 days, not after negotiation.
00:10:01.820That goes away like two days ago, and that goes away two days ago because they shut off
00:10:06.000the strait, which means, realistically speaking, what are we talking about?
00:10:08.980What we are talking about is Iran maintains control of the strait.
00:10:12.500Anyone attempting to argue that Iran does not have now permanent capacity to shut down
00:10:16.780the strait anytime they want is lying to you.
00:18:12.780By the way, I actually agree with this, Drew.
00:18:15.540I think that one of the things that's happening here is I do not think that President Trump was deeply embedded or invested in these negotiations.
00:18:21.380for example right i don't think he's he's sitting there and he's haggling over the details i think
00:18:25.380frankly his negotiators were telling him what he wanted to hear and so that's why you hear the
00:18:28.680president saying things that are certainly not in the document and then you read the document like
00:18:32.480this is not in the document this is i i would bet dollars to donuts that his negotiators were telling
00:18:37.320him that basically this deal was going to give him everything he could possibly want in life
00:18:40.880and he believed them and then he was like okay sounds great great deal and then it turns out
00:18:45.680actually do those things hold on you i was told that for a while that we were you know when people
00:18:51.360were claiming that Netanyahu or somebody dragged Trump into war. We were told we were denying
00:18:56.880Trump's agency and, you know, we were just blaming wicked advisors, but it's never the
00:19:01.240king's fault or anything. Do you really not think that Trump wants, I think he wants out.
00:19:06.020I think he had a discreet interest here. Oh, I agree he wants out. And so he wanted to end
00:19:11.420the Iranian nuclear program or there's no ending it, but there's seriously setting it back. I think
00:19:15.600he did seriously set it back and he destroyed their military and the deal is hinging on nuclear
00:19:20.540dust. So we'll see if we even get a deal out of it. But I think he wanted that. And I think other
00:19:24.600people wanted regime change. And I think Drew's point is right that the U.S. and Israel interests0.69
00:19:29.660overlap substantially, much if not most of the time. But sometimes they diverge a little. If I
00:19:34.780were the PM of Israel, I would insist upon regime change. For the U.S., it's a little less important
00:19:40.140and there are more domestic concerns to focus on too. And I don't think he really was gung-ho about
00:19:45.580regime change. He left open the possibility. He called on the Iranians to rise up. They didn't.
00:19:49.280this Mueller regime, this awful evil Mueller regime has lasted twice as long as the CIA regime
00:19:54.960that we installed in 1953. So they're a little stronger than a lot of us gave it credit for.
00:19:59.140And I don't think he's walking into this blind or being misguided by advisors. I think he wants
00:20:04.020that. And from the beginning of this, to your point, Drew, you know, I was, I don't mean to be
00:20:08.380too rosy about the deal. I'm just telling, telling you what I've heard. But I said, from the very
00:20:13.020beginning, I said, the two ways this ends are with a deal that's going to be unsatisfactory to
00:20:17.900basically everybody or with a protracted war that's going to lead to a lot of civil war in
00:20:24.400the region. It certainly is true. It certainly is true that while Vance made a stupid statement1.00
00:20:30.940about how all wars end with negotiations, which isn't true, it is true that all wars in the Middle0.97
00:20:35.520East end in this blurry kind of who knows what happens. And it's, you know, eventually we're
00:20:40.020going to get back to shooting at each other mess that every single one ends like this. And I think
00:20:46.580that that's where we're at. And I actually don't think, I mean, the stuff that Trump has been
00:20:51.580saying about Netanyahu was, at least yesterday, now he's kind of dialed it back, is absurd. But
00:20:57.680I do think that Netanyahu might just lay low for like a week, just a week, let Trump get to the
00:21:04.840point that he wants to get at. I do believe that Trump will not allow himself to look like a loser0.96
00:21:09.620in this war. He won't let it happen. And the harder, you know, you notice the press is being
00:21:13.780very quiet about this. They usually lambaste him for everything he does, but the left-wing
00:21:18.220press is being quiet about this because they know if he starts to feel that he's being depicted as
00:21:22.300a loser, he's going to go back in there with guns. I think the left-wing press is being pretty quiet
00:21:28.940about this because they think that it's Obama's deal. I mean, Obama is saying that it's Obama's
00:21:32.500deal. So again, the only thing that I'm saying about President Trump and his advisors is that
00:21:38.220I agree that President Trump wants out. I agree with you, Michael, that President Trump wants out.
00:21:42.680I think whichever advisor told him that he can get out in the fashion that gives him the best possible headline is the one that he listened to, even if those advisors were not exactly being straight with him about what was in the deal.
00:21:54.060Because of Drew's point that he would not be able to sleep well at night if he thought he was a loser, and Trump won't allow that to happen.
00:22:01.340But if you want to sleep well at night, you know what you need?
00:29:19.200If you didn't have a Helix mattress, what issues would keep you up at night?
00:29:22.660Well, I think the issues that would still keep me up would be like issues in reference to the border, issues in reference to racial politics in America, things in reference to DEI, affirmative action, discriminations.
00:29:34.800That's actually what I first went viral for when I debated Amanda Seals and I went on Ben Show for the first time.
00:29:39.800And so those issues, I think, will always keep me up.
00:29:41.840You know, leftist social and economic policy, those things domestically speaking.
00:29:45.660But I also went pretty viral also, like just generally when it comes to what I've been doing for also discussing Israel.
00:29:52.660Um, and you know, I, when I first started like doing TikTok lives at first, I started talking
00:29:57.240about Trump and I also, you know, started talking about, you know, Zionism and different things in
00:30:00.760reference to that. And a lot of people really got mad at me and it became chaotic and I kept doing
00:30:05.060my research and we just kept debating it over and over again. And so I think one big thing that's
00:30:10.160kind of encapsulated, uh, you know, conservative liberal leftist right wing, uh, media in America
00:30:15.880is the Israel question, you know, Zionism, uh, Israeli political influence stuff in reference
00:30:21.420to that. And I've been having a lot of a series of debates about that, especially the Israel-Palestine
00:30:25.860conflict. So that's one thing when we're talking about in regards to foreign policy that I also
00:30:31.040discuss quite frequently. Wait, people are interested in Israel? Hold on, are people
00:30:35.020talking about it? I'm probably I didn't. Yeah, very big news, big news. When you look at the
00:30:42.020country, since you have no past, you have no reference points because you're only just born,
00:30:47.300when you look at the country, do you think like the good guys are winning, the good guys are
00:30:50.960losing? I think the good guys, I mean, I don't know whether or not the good guys are necessarily
00:30:56.400losing. I think that there is a hyper fixation on Israel, especially from the far right and the
00:31:01.120far left. It's kind of creating this sort of horseshoe theory phenomenon where like people
00:31:05.500like Cenk Uygur and a Kasparian are sort of in alignment with other people like Tucker Carlson
00:31:09.900and Candace Owens and all sorts of other people that are on the right, like Nick Fuentes, for
00:31:13.140example. And so they're creating a sort of weird coalition to go against, I believe, Western values
00:31:17.960that, well, Islam isn't really a threat and that Israel really is evil in comparison to the entire
00:31:21.980Middle East and that, you know, you can really a lot, you know, make allies with anybody regardless
00:31:27.140of beliefs and so on. But I believe that that has been a popular thing and that they have been
00:31:33.280winning in terms of popularity when it comes to that. But I agree with what Ben said when he was
00:31:38.620discussing that and responding to that. I mean, the popularity of opinions, you know, don't validate
00:31:44.160them and that facts still don't care about your feelings. So regardless of how popular it is,
00:31:48.800it doesn't really matter, you know? Also popular for a podcaster and popular for a guy running for
00:31:55.440nationwide re-election, two entirely different things. Talk about diverging interests. There's
00:32:01.000no doubt about that. You mentioned the economics and the class warfare, and obviously Thomas Sowell
00:32:06.200is excellent on that. What do you make, I've noticed this too, a little bit on the right,
00:32:10.780but much more on the left. Elon Musk, who is one of the most productive individuals of any of our
00:32:16.000lifetimes, if not the most productive, he becomes the world's first trillionaire as he's creating
00:32:22.040all these really great products, preserves the American public square on Twitter, and everyone
00:32:27.240hates him for it. Do you see a lot of that kind of class envy, resentment? Obviously now the young
00:32:33.160left especially is willing to take on the moniker of socialism. Are we just careening toward
00:32:39.420communism forever? It almost kind of seems like it. Well, the left always sort of like tries to
00:32:46.640fight some sort of social injustice, whether it comes to billionaires or wealthy people or people
00:32:52.120that don't feel oppressed, et cetera. I would say that, yeah, that is something that the left has
00:32:57.040been discussing and has been sort of like, I could say, leaning towards, right? Like Zeran
00:33:02.200Amdani, Rashida Tlaib, Ilhan Omar, AOC, all of these sorts of people are calling themselves
00:33:07.480democratic socialists and they sort of align more with those ideals. Bernie Sanders has been running
00:33:11.940on this whole thing with taxing the billionaires and so on and so forth. But again, I still think
00:33:16.360that they believe that Elon Musk has a trillion dollars the same way that Scrooge McDuck had a
00:33:20.900trillion dollars. It's like Elon Musk just goes into his spot and there's like a trillion
00:33:27.420coins or something like that, which is not the case. I mean, if you were to rapidly liquidate
00:33:34.620those assets, it'd be horrible for everyone, including 401ks, people's pensions, different
00:33:39.000stock options, and so on and so forth. So it's not the way people envision it, right? It's the
00:33:43.620asset value of the company increasing because people are actually interested in purchasing
00:33:49.760products from his companies. It's not the same way that it's him hoarding money, which is the
00:33:53.980misunderstanding that people have. That's obviously true. And I think, you know,
00:33:57.220socialism and communism in all its forms is just evil and satanic. But there is an interesting
00:34:03.280kind of critique that comes out of wealth inequality. One is that the palace is never
00:34:08.220safe when the cottage is unhappy. But then the other one is that we have a right to private
00:34:12.300property, but nevertheless, this comes from Catholic social teaching, that there is a
00:34:16.620universal destination of goods. In other words, we have real rights to private property, but we also
00:34:21.280have obligations to each other in society. And so people are trying to pretend like Elon is doing
00:34:26.880backflips in his pile of gold. But what occurs to me from that critique is Elon actually is living
00:34:33.680up to those responsibilities. He puts aside his companies for a second to go help the government
00:34:38.260become more efficient. He puts $44 billion to put his money where our mouth is to go preserve the
00:34:43.340public square because conservatives were being discriminated against. So in a way, I think he's
00:34:46.880the worst example of a guy who's not civic-minded or irresponsible or something. Okay, so this is
00:34:51.260where, this is great. And I'm going to pummel you, Knowles. The moment has come. I was setting you up0.96
00:34:55.500I know. Here we go. OK, so the social good that Elon Musk does is not because he went into Doge, which, again, was overall not supremely successful.
00:35:05.080The overall good that he does is called Tesla and SpaceX. That is the overall good that he does.
00:35:09.980And this is this is one of the things that, you know, it's interesting.
00:35:12.620I've been making my way through the vice president's new books. Obviously, he's on a book tour.
00:35:15.560And so we all got free copies of the book. So thanks to the publisher. Appreciate it.
00:35:19.080And the vice president takes a position with regard to the meritocracy.
00:35:23.720The book is largely a refudiation of hillbillyology.
00:46:36.960This is why I don't think it's just a flippant, frivolous example.
00:46:39.060It is very important, and conservatives from the very beginning of conservatism, like 300 years ago, have recognized that, yes, we want growth, we want trade to a considerable degree, but we can't be putting the cart before the horse.
00:46:51.960I mean, these are arguments that were being made by George Washington, by Alexander Hamilton.
00:46:56.360Michael, he's also setting up a massive straw man and then burning it.
00:46:59.160He's setting up a straw man and then burning it.
00:47:00.360He's setting up a straw man and then burning it.
00:47:02.280I think the truth is that Ben agrees with this.
00:47:05.500He's just so used to the society that has been talked out of that has been talked out of free trade and been talked out of capitalism that he's on the defense of all the time.
00:47:13.900But you basically agree that, you know, prostitution, no matter how much it makes, is not a good.
00:47:18.620Nobody's nobody's nobody's even arguing that.
00:47:20.560The problem is that the J.D.'s argument in that strategy is an argument that proves too much, as with most of his arguments.
00:47:25.680It's an argument that essentially says there should be limitless capacity for right thinking people to be able to restrict the markets as they see fit in order to achieve social justice.
00:47:34.660And the only limitation on that, he establishes zero limiting principle.
00:47:39.540The limiting principle from within Catholic social teaching, which you point out is what the book is about, is subsidiarity, among other things.
00:47:46.360So there are all these limiting principles that are within it, which are built into our federal system.
00:47:50.240Michael, that's not a limiting principle.
00:47:51.840The limiting principle is what he agrees with.
00:48:33.260No, I think, look, I don't think you really believe that the vice president or any other conservative who shares his view or someone who believes in Catholic social teaching actually thinks we should have a politburo, you know, and have Stalin dictating the price of strawberries or anything else.
00:48:47.900I don't think you really believe that.
00:48:50.420Well, no, I think that what the vice president believes is that he and his friends should determine what the limiting principles are.
00:54:06.940J.D. Vance would never have been on the ticket
00:54:08.700and Donald Trump has changed his mind on so many things.
00:54:11.920I don't think those things matter anymore.
00:54:13.520Sure, he has a lot to defend if he's held to account.
00:54:16.480And if the voters have a really nuanced and complex depth of understanding of regulatory and tax policy, sure, I'm sure there's a lot he'll have to defend there.
00:54:29.200But I don't know if that actually matters more than his ability to command a stage, to throw punches, to debate.
00:54:38.940The PR and communications aspect of politics is a little bit more weighted these days, even even for voters.
00:54:47.460Yeah, Michael, when you look at the 2028 race, you've mentioned Rahm Emanuel, you mentioned Gavin Newsom.
00:54:51.760The sort of major factor that people keep ignoring in the Democratic primaries is, of course, the outsized weight of the of the black vote in places like South Carolina.
00:55:01.120It's what is what put Joe Biden over the top against Bernie Sanders.
00:55:03.880It is what put Hillary Clinton over the top, actually, against Bernie Sanders back in back in 2016.
00:55:08.500And obviously, it was very, very helpful to Barack Obama.
00:55:10.880When you look at some of the candidates you're talking about, like a Rahm Emanuel or a Gavin Newsom, is there anyone else that you're looking at who has the capacity to capitalize on the, I believe, 56 percent of the voting population in the Democratic primaries in South Carolina is black?
00:55:28.140I believe it's a majority and a huge percentage of the South as well.
00:55:31.040Given the heavy sort of majority minority coalition built by Democrats in these states, what does that mean for a Democratic primary where, again, a lot of their top candidates are white?0.99
00:55:39.780but you might get a Wes Moore or Kamala Harris is probably going to run again.
00:55:44.780Yeah, I mean, you're not wrong about the coalition, the voting coalition in South Carolina.
00:55:48.640I think that some of the I think the Clintons had a history with black voters.
00:55:55.500I think Barack Obama was unique and appealing for black voters for a lot of historic reasons.
00:56:02.560And I think this could be the first probably open test for South Carolina as a primary state, assuming that the calendar stays, keeps South Carolina front and center.
00:56:18.880You know, and that's sort of the next big test of the DNC chair is to sort of establish the calendar.
00:56:26.180So we need to see where South Carolina falls in the calendar.
00:56:29.900Although I'm just not convinced that – and, you know, also Biden had the advantage of having Jim Clyburn come out and endorse us at a very low point in our campaign.
00:56:44.560I don't know if South Carolina is enough for any one nominee.
00:56:48.660I just don't believe that because of how many states come after it and they sort of vote-rich, delegate-rich populations that come after it.
00:57:02.220It does raise the question of sort of moderate candidate versus not moderate candidate, which you're bringing up here, which is that actually the South Carolina voters have tended toward the more moderate candidate and a wide variety of presidential primaries for the Democratic Party in the recent past.
00:57:17.600But the Democratic Party, as you've also been mentioning, is running headlong off a cliff in terms of some of these primary candidates, like a Graham Plattner in Maine or like Abdul El-Sayed in Michigan, really embracing some of the more radical aspects of their own party.
00:57:31.400How wide is that gap going to open before 2028?
00:57:33.900What happens to the party if you have, say, AOC declare for the presidency and also a Pete Buttigieg and also a Gavin Newsom?
00:57:40.980I mean, it's going to be a very crowded field. And and how do you see that back breaking down?
00:57:45.220Because the nice thing for the radicals is they tend to coalesce around one person.
00:57:49.600And meanwhile, all of the pseudo moderates tend to fragment a little bit.
00:57:54.520Yeah. And, you know, based on my last experience in the primary with the Bidens and that in that 2019, the doldrums of 19 and then into those first couple of months.
00:58:06.240um look i think on ms now and um sort of the progressive podcast echo chamber space
00:58:16.520i think that the left makes all the noise they are certainly louder at making the noise
00:58:23.660that's not really where voters in the in a democratic primary nationally were in 2020
00:58:33.560They were not, you know, the media, the mainstream media was more obsessed with Bernie and Warren and even Buttigieg to an extent.
00:58:45.140I mean, Warren, Elizabeth Warren got third in her home state of Massachusetts.
00:58:51.100Bernie really ran for president twice now and couldn't make the case himself for president to Democratic voters in a national competitive primary.
00:59:00.040So it just feels to me, based on voting behavior across the country in these primaries and the way Democrats set them up, that the silent majority of actual Democratic primary voters really aren't all that interested in what the left is offering.
00:59:20.540That just hasn't been the case so far. Who knows? Maybe that changes in 2024. It just hasn't been the case yet.
00:59:29.020So I'm interested to see if that happens. I don't think it will. I also think, as you mentioned, we've got to figure out, and we'll know in a couple weeks, where we are in Michigan, where this Plattner-Mamdani experiment goes in Maine, and we'll certainly see how the Mamdani experiment goes in Maine by November.
00:59:50.160And I think at that point, we're going to have a better idea on how that wing of the party is going to fare.
00:59:57.880What do you think? This is a little bit of a data question.
01:00:00.020Speaking of, sorry, Michael, quick data thing, actually.
01:00:02.360According to our friends over at CalShare, sponsors at CalShare,
01:00:05.380Ladner is still favored by 57% of the people who are in that market.
01:00:11.220He's down a little bit, but Collins is—
01:00:13.000And by the way, I bet that doesn't change.
01:00:15.780And I think that's the uniqueness of Maine.
01:00:20.520Keep in mind, Maine is the oldest state in the country by medium age.
01:00:24.560Um, you know, it was really funny hearing a, a credible, you know, sort of legacy mainstream reporter who was telling me he was up there talking to this, um, uh, democratic voter, more of a Bernie bro kind of grandma, as she called herself.
01:00:43.840loves Bernie, but not an election that goes by where she will not vote for Susan Collins.
01:00:51.340She is Susan Collins all the way. That woman could do no wrong. And that sort of explains0.69
01:00:57.440the gap. The Biden-Collins voter nine points in 2020 that was impossible to poll accurately.
01:01:07.460So I have no doubt that the polls and the prediction markets will have Plattner and the energy and money will be around him for the next couple of months.
01:01:54.160We're years past peak woke, and the Dems are trying to run away from it, it seems.
01:01:59.260But we are constantly hanging these clips calling God non-binary or referring to women as our neighbors with uteruses all around James Tallarico, and it's hard for him to run away from it.
01:02:09.480Ben did a great job when he went on Gavin Newsom's show of just constantly pinning Newsom back on the trans issue.
01:02:16.560There was like a Newsom-shaped hole in the wall.
01:02:18.080He wanted to get as far away from it as he could.
01:02:20.340To what degree do you think that's still a live issue going into the midterms?
01:05:02.260No, but you know what I'm here to do? I'm here to read what's written in my prompter, which says that you haven't gotten your dad a gift. And so I know people are going to say, oh, finding a good gift for dad. It's so hard. I have no idea what he wants. It's not hard. Men are simple creatures, okay? We're easy. We want to be informed. We want to be right. We want to be left alone and enjoy both.
01:05:24.820And we, I know I'm using we, I should have used they.
01:05:28.100They actually wrote they in the prompter.