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00:00:44.060 It may be just this angle,

00:00:45.280 but I feel like Walsh's beard is somehow

00:00:47.420 even more beardy than usual.

00:00:49.400 It's taking over, is it?

00:00:50.660 It looks like that guy, you turn him upside down

00:00:52.680 and it becomes his hair.

00:00:53.920 He's got like the full Michael Shannon

00:00:55.600 as James Garfield in Death by Lightning beard going now.

00:00:59.340 It's so dark on my screen

00:01:01.460 that it looks like someone just took out

00:01:03.960 the pixels of Matt's face

00:01:05.600 into like a black abyss.

00:01:07.620 I've been trying to do that for years.

00:01:09.300 It's cold here, man.

00:01:11.540 It's cold.

00:01:12.360 Oh, we're live.

00:01:18.480 Oh, we're live?

00:01:19.180 Cool.

00:01:19.620 That's it.

00:01:20.100 That's exciting.

00:01:21.120 I just hope Allie Beth isn't hearing us curse like this.

00:01:24.160 There's still gentlemen enough.

00:01:25.780 She is.

00:01:26.260 Look, she's not here.

00:01:27.220 This is terrible.

00:01:28.400 It's okay.

00:01:28.920 I hope that's going to be long enough

00:01:30.220 to know that this is a reality.

00:01:32.000 The reality behind the scenes.

00:01:32.980 Listen, we have a lot to do today, guys.

00:01:42.380 Okay?

00:01:43.100 We need to talk about the Spanish maxing skirt cell

00:01:47.040 who showed up to the Super Bowl.

00:01:49.240 And then we also have to talk about

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00:01:53.140 Then there's a topic that all of us have touched on.

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00:01:57.360 There was a school shooting,

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00:02:12.980 which is that Savannah Guthrie's mother

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00:02:15.140 So anyway, there's a lot that we have to get to

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00:03:35.740 Okay, I think that's all the English

00:03:37.520 we should speak.

00:03:39.160 Absolutely.

00:03:39.600 Don de escala biblioteca.

00:03:41.440 What did you all think

00:03:42.340 of football americano?

00:03:44.860 I want to comment first

00:03:46.420 because I have the best comment on this.

00:03:47.940 I've heard everybody else's comments

00:03:49.040 and mine are the best.

00:03:49.920 My comment on the Super Bowl halftime show

00:03:52.880 every year is the same.

00:03:54.140 I don't watch it.

00:03:55.260 And the reason I don't watch it,

00:03:56.360 no, you know,

00:03:56.840 I'm not absconding from my duty.

00:03:59.160 The reason,

00:03:59.520 that is my commentary.

00:04:00.720 I don't watch it

00:04:01.620 because I feel it's a setup.

00:04:02.880 It's a setup where they put on

00:04:04.440 some stupid left-wing thing

00:04:05.960 dissing the audience of white males,

00:04:08.540 basically,

00:04:09.020 who watch football like me.

00:04:11.160 And then we come out

00:04:12.320 and we complain about it

00:04:13.240 and we sound like a bunch of cranks.

00:04:14.380 So I just don't watch it.

00:04:16.380 I turn it off.

00:04:17.260 I usually have dinner with my wife.

00:04:19.640 This time I was pounding on my grandson,

00:04:22.940 beating up my grandson

00:04:23.740 while that went on.

00:04:24.960 And then I turned the game back on,

00:04:26.180 which is what I came there to see.

00:04:27.640 On top of which,

00:04:28.940 I really believe that the arts

00:04:30.420 belong to people who love them.

00:04:31.980 And I don't love popular music,

00:04:33.800 so I don't comment on it that much.

00:04:35.560 I like,

00:04:36.000 ever since the Beatles replaced,

00:04:37.700 like,

00:04:38.600 Frank Sinatra singing Cole Porter songs,

00:04:40.360 I was out.

00:04:41.080 And I just continue to remain.

00:04:42.480 I like the game of football.

00:04:44.280 I boycotted it

00:04:45.240 when they knelt at the flag.

00:04:46.620 I'm not boycotting it

00:04:47.600 over crappy music

00:04:48.400 because it's so crappy.

00:04:49.240 This is,

00:04:49.680 that was the best take.

00:04:51.780 That right there was the best take.

00:04:53.340 You insisted on going first

00:04:55.260 so you could explain

00:04:56.180 that you don't like pop music

00:04:57.200 and that you're old.

00:04:58.520 That was the best of all the takes.

00:05:00.800 Everybody sounds old.

00:05:02.060 Everybody sounds old

00:05:03.120 when they talk about this

00:05:04.420 on the conservative side.

00:05:05.440 I have the best take on this.

00:05:06.700 Can I go as,

00:05:07.880 I have the actual best take on this

00:05:09.580 because I am mad about it.

00:05:12.580 I am grumpy about it.

00:05:14.080 No.

00:05:14.960 Shock me, Matt.

00:05:15.740 I know.

00:05:16.180 I know.

00:05:16.480 No one expects it.

00:05:17.440 Listen,

00:05:18.100 I do,

00:05:18.640 it's this weird,

00:05:19.480 this weird thing has happened

00:05:20.320 with the halftime show

00:05:21.100 this time around,

00:05:21.940 which is that

00:05:22.500 the thing happened,

00:05:23.780 some conservatives complained about it,

00:05:25.200 I think rightly so.

00:05:26.460 So there's backlash.

00:05:27.280 And then there's backlash

00:05:28.180 from other conservatives

00:05:29.080 against those conservatives

00:05:30.320 saying,

00:05:31.100 well,

00:05:31.160 what are you doing

00:05:31.640 complaining about it?

00:05:32.320 It doesn't matter.

00:05:33.200 Well,

00:05:33.400 I kind of think like,

00:05:34.320 if that doesn't matter,

00:05:35.520 then what,

00:05:36.120 then what are any,

00:05:36.860 why are we talking about anything?

00:05:38.480 Like the,

00:05:39.480 the end,

00:05:39.940 this is,

00:05:40.320 this is one of our preeminent

00:05:42.080 cultural events.

00:05:44.380 You know,

00:05:44.680 this is iconic cultural event.

00:05:46.340 It's an American event,

00:05:48.340 the Superbowl.

00:05:49.300 I do watch the Superbowl

00:05:50.760 and I like the NFL

00:05:51.620 because I like,

00:05:52.340 I like football.

00:05:53.240 You know,

00:05:53.440 it's an,

00:05:53.720 it's an American pastime

00:05:55.140 and I don't want to give that up.

00:05:56.540 And so when they turn that

00:05:58.280 into this celebration

00:06:00.660 of not just any foreign culture,

00:06:02.600 but by the way,

00:06:03.100 a foreign culture

00:06:03.840 that has nothing to do

00:06:05.520 with football at all.

00:06:07.440 Okay.

00:06:07.820 Hispanic culture

00:06:08.700 has not contributed

00:06:09.760 to the NFL,

00:06:11.340 to American football at all.

00:06:12.860 I mean,

00:06:13.100 right now there are

00:06:14.180 more Hispanics in the NFL

00:06:15.780 than there have ever been.

00:06:16.840 And there's like

00:06:17.740 one per active roster

00:06:19.840 and there's 32

00:06:20.880 on the active rosters

00:06:21.840 in the entire,

00:06:22.380 in the entire league.

00:06:23.260 And that's,

00:06:23.760 and that's at the peak.

00:06:24.860 So this is,

00:06:25.580 this is,

00:06:25.980 this is,

00:06:26.300 you might as well

00:06:26.920 have a halftime show

00:06:27.740 that's devoted to celebrating

00:06:29.080 women,

00:06:29.860 Norway,

00:06:30.820 Vietnam or something.

00:06:31.980 Who represents 0%

00:06:32.880 of the rosters.

00:06:33.980 Does,

00:06:34.200 does anybody remember

00:06:35.060 those magnet toys

00:06:35.920 where you moved filings

00:06:37.200 to make a beard on a guy?

00:06:38.560 Does that,

00:06:38.860 does that,

00:06:39.060 does that,

00:06:40.200 I'm just saying,

00:06:41.860 I'm just having a flashback there.

00:06:43.300 I like football

00:06:43.860 to have a beard,

00:06:44.540 you know,

00:06:44.800 it all comes together.

00:06:46.600 So my,

00:06:47.020 my point is that this,

00:06:48.380 that what they did

00:06:49.100 with the halftime show,

00:06:50.000 I think is,

00:06:51.180 is more deliberately offensive.

00:06:53.360 Not,

00:06:53.760 not in the sense of like,

00:06:54.660 I'm not,

00:06:55.080 I'm not crying about it.

00:06:56.280 I mean,

00:06:56.520 like deliberately,

00:06:57.660 it's meant to be offensive

00:06:59.460 to the actual fans

00:07:01.340 of the game

00:07:02.340 because it's,

00:07:03.740 it's,

00:07:04.000 it's inaccessible.

00:07:05.020 It's in a language

00:07:05.740 that we don't speak

00:07:06.880 and then on top of it,

00:07:07.740 and this is the part

00:07:08.600 that I think,

00:07:09.080 like if you're a conservative

00:07:09.900 trying to,

00:07:10.580 trying to take

00:07:11.060 the contrarian view.

00:07:12.120 It's actually,

00:07:12.520 it was good.

00:07:13.540 Uh,

00:07:13.860 it,

00:07:14.100 you know,

00:07:14.480 that's absurd.

00:07:15.460 Well,

00:07:15.600 Matt,

00:07:15.840 did you see,

00:07:16.340 the end of it,

00:07:16.940 the actual worst take

00:07:18.440 is the one you're describing

00:07:19.460 and it was John Kasich

00:07:20.760 and there were other

00:07:21.720 squishy types

00:07:22.440 who were backing it

00:07:23.380 and it was all these

00:07:24.360 kind of like,

00:07:25.260 want to be cool,

00:07:26.440 you know,

00:07:27.020 boomer establishment

00:07:28.100 Republicans.

00:07:28.660 You know,

00:07:29.400 actually what Kasich

00:07:30.360 said was,

00:07:31.220 actually that was great

00:07:32.560 bad bunny,

00:07:33.580 a home run grand slam.

00:07:35.260 And I couldn't tell

00:07:35.820 if that was ironic,

00:07:36.840 if he was throwing

00:07:37.960 some shade or no,

00:07:38.960 I think he actually

00:07:39.480 was that tone deaf

00:07:40.820 that this guy

00:07:41.540 gets up there,

00:07:42.100 a Puerto Rican

00:07:42.780 transvestite,

00:07:43.840 sings exclusively

00:07:44.580 in Spanish,

00:07:45.440 finally at the end

00:07:46.160 he says,

00:07:46.560 God bless America

00:07:47.400 and then it says,

00:07:48.260 God bless America,

00:07:49.340 you know,

00:07:50.040 Chile,

00:07:50.860 Argentina,

00:07:52.300 Cuba,

00:07:53.040 and you think,

00:07:53.460 well you want,

00:07:54.240 in America's

00:07:54.940 preeminent sporting event,

00:07:56.100 you can't even say

00:07:57.320 God bless America

00:07:58.140 without throwing shade

00:07:59.040 at this country

00:07:59.680 that you manifestly hate

00:08:01.120 and you got John Kasich

00:08:02.580 clapping like a seal

00:08:03.640 saying,

00:08:04.320 you know,

00:08:04.600 please get another

00:08:05.280 three pointer fellas.

00:08:06.300 It was not just

00:08:07.980 John Kasich though,

00:08:08.760 it's easy enough,

00:08:10.220 it's not just

00:08:10.540 John Kasich,

00:08:11.240 there's like plenty

00:08:12.280 of people that are

00:08:13.540 on the,

00:08:14.440 that would pretend

00:08:15.500 to be even on

00:08:16.280 the far right

00:08:16.940 that have decided

00:08:17.600 that actually the

00:08:18.380 halftime show

00:08:18.920 is perfectly fine.

00:08:20.020 Absolutely.

00:08:20.340 And then on top of that,

00:08:21.340 we're going to flip

00:08:23.440 around and say,

00:08:24.320 and criticize

00:08:25.220 the TPUSA

00:08:26.020 halftime show.

00:08:26.720 By the way,

00:08:27.220 the TPUSA

00:08:27.840 halftime show

00:08:28.540 was a huge gamble

00:08:29.820 that they took.

00:08:30.520 If they had asked me

00:08:31.180 and gotten my opinion

00:08:32.360 ahead of time,

00:08:33.040 I would have told them

00:08:33.560 don't do it

00:08:34.300 because you're,

00:08:34.800 you know,

00:08:35.100 you're counter-programming

00:08:36.560 the NFL,

00:08:38.040 the Super Bowl,

00:08:38.860 it's going to be

00:08:39.240 a huge failure.

00:08:40.160 I was wrong,

00:08:40.980 it was a huge success

00:08:41.900 and even if you

00:08:43.560 don't like Kid Rock,

00:08:44.580 even if Kid Rock

00:08:45.140 is not your jam,

00:08:46.420 well,

00:08:46.780 guess what?

00:08:47.140 The point is

00:08:47.700 they've established this,

00:08:48.900 they got tens

00:08:49.520 of millions of viewers,

00:08:50.840 so next year,

00:08:52.160 well now it's actually

00:08:52.940 going to be appealing

00:08:53.720 potentially to some

00:08:55.300 bigger stars

00:08:56.180 because they know

00:08:56.740 they'll get a big audience,

00:08:58.100 so they've set something

00:08:59.180 up for the future

00:08:59.900 and I think in a really

00:09:00.680 smart way.

00:09:01.360 If we can't celebrate

00:09:02.480 that as conservatives,

00:09:03.720 I don't know what we're doing.

00:09:04.380 I have to say,

00:09:04.980 both those takes

00:09:06.160 were mediocre

00:09:06.720 and now here comes

00:09:08.880 the best take.

00:09:09.860 Okay, so.

00:09:10.760 Thank heavens.

00:09:11.600 I thought we were

00:09:12.500 dying here.

00:09:13.140 We were all waiting.

00:09:14.280 So I'll get to the

00:09:15.620 TPUSA event

00:09:16.260 in a little bit

00:09:16.700 because I think

00:09:17.180 that the TPUSA thing

00:09:18.100 is really,

00:09:18.600 really fascinating

00:09:19.140 because on a cultural level,

00:09:21.240 I totally agree with Matt

00:09:22.120 that it was a huge success.

00:09:23.620 Obviously,

00:09:23.940 the numbers were gigantic.

00:09:24.880 There was a hunger

00:09:25.380 for something that wasn't

00:09:26.400 what was being shown

00:09:27.320 on the Super Bowl

00:09:28.120 and TPUSA proved it

00:09:29.860 on a sort of

00:09:30.540 aesthetic level.

00:09:31.620 Obviously,

00:09:32.140 you hope that the future

00:09:32.940 is better than Kid Rock

00:09:34.440 who has not been

00:09:35.500 musically relevant

00:09:36.200 in my opinion ever

00:09:37.220 but certainly

00:09:37.740 for the last 20 years

00:09:38.640 and so that kind of

00:09:40.300 is what it is

00:09:40.980 but as far as

00:09:42.280 the Bad Bunny show,

00:09:43.240 so I think first of all

00:09:44.760 that the,

00:09:46.520 I want to say

00:09:47.180 a couple of things

00:09:47.840 since it's been

00:09:48.480 unmitigated

00:09:49.160 just bashing

00:09:50.120 of the Super Bowl

00:09:50.640 halftime show

00:09:51.260 and I'm happy

00:09:52.140 to join in on that

00:09:52.740 because I also

00:09:53.800 despise music

00:09:54.860 that is this music.

00:09:56.300 I will say this.

00:09:58.280 One,

00:09:59.000 everybody was upset

00:09:59.620 it was all in Spanish.

00:10:00.480 This is like the third time

00:10:01.440 I haven't understood

00:10:02.200 a word somebody said

00:10:03.020 during the Super Bowl

00:10:03.600 halftime show.

00:10:04.500 I mean,

00:10:04.800 I will freely admit

00:10:06.100 that Kendrick Lamar rapping,

00:10:07.220 I had no idea

00:10:07.860 what the hell he was saying

00:10:08.800 the entire halftime show

00:10:09.880 so the fact that it was

00:10:10.520 in Spanish

00:10:11.000 or whether it's in Ebonics

00:10:12.180 makes no difference to me.

00:10:13.620 If I don't know

00:10:14.600 what you're saying,

00:10:14.980 I don't know what you're saying.

00:10:15.920 As far as the

00:10:16.980 actual production value,

00:10:19.160 just from like a pure

00:10:20.060 production value standpoint,

00:10:21.800 it is pretty incredible

00:10:22.640 what they were able

00:10:23.160 to build on the field

00:10:24.040 like just from

00:10:24.580 in terms of they built

00:10:25.840 like out an entire

00:10:26.740 sugar cane field

00:10:27.680 and then apparently

00:10:28.560 one of the glories

00:10:29.120 of Puerto Rico

00:10:29.680 failing telephone lines

00:10:30.800 and then they built

00:10:32.080 an entire casita

00:10:33.520 and like that stuff,

00:10:35.240 honestly,

00:10:35.620 like on an aesthetic level

00:10:36.460 that was kind of cool.

00:10:37.700 I did appreciate

00:10:38.460 that they actually

00:10:39.040 held a straight wedding

00:10:39.820 on the field,

00:10:41.100 right?

00:10:41.300 I mean,

00:10:41.480 I like marriages.

00:10:43.600 The little marriages are good.

00:10:45.280 Yeah, exactly.

00:10:45.840 I'll take the little win.

00:10:46.500 I'll take the,

00:10:47.000 I thought it was kind of cute

00:10:47.760 when there was the kid

00:10:48.440 who was falling asleep

00:10:49.220 on the chairs

00:10:50.140 and grandpa comes over

00:10:51.840 and like picks him up.

00:10:52.660 Like that's fine.

00:10:54.240 The part of it

00:10:54.920 that really ticked me off

00:10:55.800 and it's not even

00:10:56.980 that it's all in Spanish.

00:10:59.840 Although,

00:11:00.360 again,

00:11:00.620 I would appreciate

00:11:01.300 if you did something

00:11:02.040 in English

00:11:02.460 because we should all

00:11:03.540 speak English.

00:11:03.960 It's America.

00:11:04.900 The part at the very end

00:11:06.460 was the tell,

00:11:07.480 right?

00:11:07.640 And this is all

00:11:08.240 a bit of gaslighting.

00:11:09.060 What is happening here

00:11:09.940 and they do it every year

00:11:10.960 and this is what Drew,

00:11:11.600 I think you were alluding to

00:11:12.460 is they do a thing,

00:11:13.900 they call it extremely important

00:11:15.180 and then when you say,

00:11:16.200 oh, I agree,

00:11:16.760 it's important and bad,

00:11:17.900 they go,

00:11:18.420 why are you even noticing

00:11:19.300 it's not important?

00:11:20.580 Right?

00:11:20.980 And that's the part

00:11:21.880 that's truly galling

00:11:22.920 because at the very end

00:11:24.060 when he decided

00:11:25.500 that he was going to go

00:11:26.060 through every single country

00:11:27.280 in the Americas

00:11:29.200 and say we are all America

00:11:30.880 as though there's nothing special

00:11:32.660 or unique about the country

00:11:33.900 that gave you fame,

00:11:35.000 fortune,

00:11:35.840 wealth,

00:11:36.300 the opportunity to be

00:11:37.200 on the biggest stage

00:11:38.140 that exists for any musician

00:11:39.700 and somehow Peru

00:11:42.020 is getting mentioned

00:11:43.160 and by the way,

00:11:44.200 it wasn't just Latino,

00:11:44.960 right?

00:11:45.080 Because you mentioned Canada.

00:11:46.020 I'm not sure what the Canadians

00:11:46.780 have to do.

00:11:47.840 And he didn't mention Greenland.

00:11:49.220 I thought that was

00:11:49.640 a huge omission.

00:11:50.240 Yeah, I know.

00:11:50.800 A huge omission.

00:11:51.940 If we're not going to include Greenland,

00:11:53.400 what are we even doing here?

00:11:54.800 What are we even talking about?

00:11:56.140 But when he said,

00:11:56.920 you know,

00:11:57.120 we are all Americans

00:11:58.080 and we all understand,

00:11:59.140 no, we're not.

00:12:00.340 Like, we're not.

00:12:01.300 Americans means like

00:12:02.020 from the United States.

00:12:03.240 That was the part

00:12:03.840 that I found insulting

00:12:04.720 and also obviously

00:12:05.920 a way of gaslighting everybody

00:12:07.760 and driving them half mad

00:12:09.460 and crazy

00:12:10.340 and then trolling off of that.

00:12:11.980 And so, of course,

00:12:12.660 the president sounded off

00:12:13.740 on this

00:12:14.460 and said that he didn't like it.

00:12:15.580 By the way,

00:12:16.580 one of the great things

00:12:17.760 about the Kalshi markets,

00:12:19.140 they're one of our sponsors,

00:12:20.180 is that you actually can place,

00:12:21.680 you can actually predict

00:12:22.780 whether the president

00:12:23.720 is going to call out

00:12:25.060 Bad Bunny by name this month.

00:12:26.620 That was up at like 80%

00:12:27.980 right before the Super Bowl.

00:12:29.080 That is down at like 25% right now.

00:12:32.240 But, you know,

00:12:32.940 my overall take on it

00:12:34.200 is that, of course,

00:12:35.180 Americans who are insulted

00:12:36.360 are right to be insulted

00:12:37.540 and the left meant

00:12:39.300 for it to be insulting.

00:12:40.800 Also, I think that

00:12:42.020 it was a game.

00:12:43.860 It was a game.

00:12:44.320 The game was to try

00:12:45.020 and get the right

00:12:45.560 to sound off

00:12:46.360 in extremely loud fashion

00:12:47.720 about this particular thing

00:12:48.900 so then they can go back

00:12:49.960 to Latino voters particularly

00:12:51.960 and Latinos in the United States

00:12:53.720 and say it's not that

00:12:54.540 they are upset

00:12:55.380 that they didn't get any English

00:12:56.240 or that you're equating

00:12:58.020 somehow Haiti

00:12:58.640 and the United States

00:12:59.440 as we're all Americans

00:13:00.320 or that, what,

00:13:01.580 all those flags belong

00:13:02.780 in America

00:13:03.280 as equivalent

00:13:03.860 to the American flag?

00:13:05.080 Like, the thing

00:13:07.160 that they really hate about you

00:13:08.020 is that you're Latino.

00:13:08.880 And that's the game

00:13:09.580 the media are playing now.

00:13:10.480 And they're taking

00:13:10.880 the stupidest form

00:13:11.900 of the argument

00:13:12.400 being made by the right

00:13:13.140 and, of course,

00:13:13.520 using it that way.

00:13:14.820 One good note,

00:13:16.780 we have to say

00:13:17.660 it was the only 20 minutes

00:13:18.780 of the show

00:13:19.880 in which Drake May

00:13:20.760 wasn't sacked.

00:13:21.780 So I think that

00:13:22.560 that's something

00:13:23.480 we can say positive

00:13:24.220 about the performance.

00:13:25.080 I actually,

00:13:25.800 I disagree with this.

00:13:27.480 I disagree with that.

00:13:28.600 I don't think,

00:13:30.480 you know,

00:13:30.640 the idea that,

00:13:31.480 well, they're trying

00:13:32.160 to provoke conservatives

00:13:33.220 into having some kind

00:13:34.300 of reaction

00:13:34.800 and so then the right answer

00:13:36.380 is to not have a reaction.

00:13:37.820 I know you didn't say

00:13:38.300 that second part, Ben,

00:13:39.060 but that's the implication.

00:13:40.440 Like, they're trying

00:13:40.780 to provoke us to react

00:13:41.840 so we look like grumpy old men

00:13:43.600 and so we should

00:13:44.620 therefore not react.

00:13:45.560 I don't think

00:13:45.980 that's the case at all.

00:13:46.940 I think the gamble,

00:13:48.320 there was a gamble

00:13:48.900 they were taking.

00:13:49.500 The gamble was that

00:13:50.320 they would just kind

00:13:51.200 of get away with it

00:13:51.760 and there wouldn't be

00:13:52.140 much of a backlash

00:13:52.860 because what has actually

00:13:56.240 been proven

00:13:56.920 is that, in fact,

00:13:58.680 when conservatives,

00:13:59.960 if we're, like,

00:14:00.680 united about something

00:14:01.840 and we all decide

00:14:03.980 basically as one voice

00:14:05.300 that we're not okay

00:14:06.820 with this,

00:14:07.240 this is not okay,

00:14:08.480 we can actually

00:14:09.880 get concessions

00:14:11.000 in the culture.

00:14:12.320 Rather than abandoning

00:14:13.980 these iconic institutions

00:14:15.220 like the NFL,

00:14:16.100 an iconic American institution,

00:14:18.040 rather than abandoning it

00:14:19.040 and saying,

00:14:19.220 I'm not watching that

00:14:20.220 or I'm just going to take it

00:14:22.140 and not complain,

00:14:23.320 you can actually

00:14:24.120 extract concessions.

00:14:25.240 You can get them

00:14:25.720 to come back our way,

00:14:27.660 but that doesn't happen

00:14:28.820 if we end up fighting

00:14:29.840 with each other

00:14:30.560 and we've got people

00:14:31.740 on our own side

00:14:32.320 saying,

00:14:32.580 oh, actually,

00:14:32.960 this is fine.

00:14:33.800 I mean,

00:14:33.980 that happened

00:14:35.000 with the NFL, okay?

00:14:36.760 Right.

00:14:37.260 Maybe we've all noticed

00:14:38.720 that these players,

00:14:40.360 they don't kneel

00:14:40.840 during the anthem anymore,

00:14:41.820 do they?

00:14:42.080 Yeah, no,

00:14:42.280 that's right.

00:14:43.040 We boycotted it.

00:14:44.040 They did that

00:14:44.840 and conservatives

00:14:46.060 unanimously

00:14:47.380 were pissed off

00:14:48.480 about it,

00:14:48.940 rightly so,

00:14:50.120 and so the NFL

00:14:50.900 sent the message

00:14:51.560 to the teams,

00:14:52.280 okay,

00:14:52.480 you need to have

00:14:52.820 your players stand,

00:14:53.460 we're not doing this.

00:14:54.500 I mean,

00:14:54.940 famously,

00:14:55.780 we did it.

00:14:56.020 But we stopped watching,

00:14:56.780 Matt.

00:14:57.120 This is like crap music

00:14:58.720 that is,

00:14:59.140 you're absolutely right,

00:15:00.100 it's geared to make us

00:15:01.280 offended

00:15:02.780 and make us sound

00:15:03.560 like grumpy old men.

00:15:04.600 I think it's a great idea

00:15:05.780 to go over

00:15:06.300 and watch the TPUSA show.

00:15:07.900 I just don't watch any of it

00:15:09.040 because I hate the music

00:15:09.960 altogether.

00:15:10.060 Well, you know,

00:15:10.440 on the point of the TPUSA show,

00:15:11.900 look,

00:15:12.140 I totally agree with Matt,

00:15:13.400 it was a huge risk

00:15:14.720 and I had multiple fears

00:15:16.440 about the TPUSA show.

00:15:17.840 One,

00:15:18.340 I thought it could flop

00:15:19.320 just because you're going up

00:15:20.500 against the NFL

00:15:21.420 and it didn't flop.

00:15:22.800 It was a huge success,

00:15:23.940 got tens of millions of views,

00:15:25.060 it was a big, big win.

00:15:26.400 The second fear I had

00:15:27.480 was that it was going

00:15:28.300 to be a cringe fest

00:15:29.200 and, you know,

00:15:30.440 love Charlie,

00:15:32.100 Eric is a national hero,

00:15:33.840 I love our friends

00:15:34.680 at TPUSA,

00:15:35.460 they do great stuff,

00:15:36.240 they put on great shows

00:15:37.080 but I kind of thought

00:15:38.380 it was going to be

00:15:39.000 a huge cringe fest

00:15:39.840 so I'm watching it

00:15:40.740 with, you know,

00:15:41.540 white-knuckling it

00:15:42.380 and I thought,

00:15:42.720 I don't know

00:15:43.160 and maybe Kid Rock

00:15:43.960 is going to be a little

00:15:44.600 over the top or whatever

00:15:45.480 so Kid Rock comes out

00:15:46.880 and he does the thing

00:15:48.320 that we were all expecting,

00:15:49.520 flag, pyrotechnics.

00:15:51.420 One,

00:15:51.860 it was impressive

00:15:52.720 that a guy who was,

00:15:53.580 I think,

00:15:53.780 57 years old

00:15:54.940 was moving around like that.

00:15:56.360 I don't move around

00:15:56.980 like that at 35

00:15:57.800 and I didn't move around

00:15:58.580 like that at 25

00:15:59.260 but so that was

00:16:00.680 physically impressive

00:16:01.440 but I thought,

00:16:02.240 okay,

00:16:02.420 here's a song from 1999,

00:16:04.300 we've all heard it,

00:16:05.040 I don't even like this song.

00:16:05.880 He's Social Security Rock now.

00:16:07.300 He's no longer Kid Rock.

00:16:08.340 But you know,

00:16:08.900 he actually leaned into that

00:16:10.460 and I thought

00:16:10.860 this was the point where

00:16:11.940 and conservatives

00:16:13.140 are kind of dissing

00:16:13.900 some of this stuff

00:16:14.540 but I thought

00:16:15.660 there was actually

00:16:16.560 real artistry,

00:16:17.580 I thought there was actually

00:16:18.180 some real beauty

00:16:19.300 in that show

00:16:19.960 because he comes out,

00:16:21.100 they say,

00:16:21.420 introducing Kid Rock

00:16:22.280 and he does the Kid Rock bit

00:16:23.860 and then it shifted

00:16:25.000 to a cello

00:16:26.100 and a violin

00:16:26.700 and I thought,

00:16:27.640 okay, man,

00:16:28.580 we're in it now,

00:16:29.420 they're really catering to me

00:16:30.860 because the right

00:16:31.920 is split up between,

00:16:33.080 you know,

00:16:33.260 the like I wanna go fishing

00:16:34.940 kind of guys

00:16:35.680 and the more like

00:16:36.520 rocky, edgy face tattoo guys

00:16:38.260 and people like us

00:16:39.820 who like classical music

00:16:40.920 and Cole Porter

00:16:41.960 and whatever

00:16:42.380 and so they,

00:16:43.280 it's actually kind of hard

00:16:44.360 to cater to all of them.

00:16:45.480 TPSA did that.

00:16:46.520 You had this transition

00:16:47.320 with the cello

00:16:48.140 and the violin

00:16:48.520 and then they reintroduced

00:16:50.160 Kid Rock

00:16:50.740 by his Christian name,

00:16:52.480 by,

00:16:52.720 I think it's Rob Richie,

00:16:53.800 I actually didn't even know

00:16:54.300 what his real name was

00:16:54.960 and they introduced him

00:16:56.280 and he did this song

00:16:57.260 Till You Can't

00:16:58.800 and it was this song

00:16:59.540 about how,

00:17:00.120 you know,

00:17:00.300 you plan to go see your dad

00:17:01.440 but you get a rain check

00:17:02.480 and you can always

00:17:03.560 get a rain check

00:17:04.120 until you can't,

00:17:04.940 you know,

00:17:05.080 until he dies

00:17:05.680 and you plan to play

00:17:07.180 with your kids

00:17:07.620 or whatever

00:17:07.880 until you can't,

00:17:08.400 they're out of the house

00:17:08.920 and he added this verse

00:17:11.180 that Kid Rock himself wrote

00:17:12.640 and it was about Jesus

00:17:14.140 and even there I thought,

00:17:15.220 okay,

00:17:15.520 this could be kind of cringy,

00:17:17.020 you know,

00:17:17.320 like just Bible thumping,

00:17:19.380 you know,

00:17:19.960 low hymnody

00:17:21.340 but I thought it was actually

00:17:22.680 much tougher than that.

00:17:24.220 It was more thoughtful than that.

00:17:25.740 He said,

00:17:25.980 you can give your life to Jesus

00:17:27.680 until you can't.

00:17:29.420 You know,

00:17:29.560 there are actually

00:17:29.960 eternal consequences

00:17:31.100 of our actions

00:17:32.360 and there was a little bit

00:17:33.820 of hellfire in there.

00:17:34.620 There was a little bit

00:17:35.140 of reality that crept in

00:17:36.920 and it had this beautiful tie-in

00:17:39.140 with Charlie,

00:17:40.460 of course,

00:17:40.960 you know,

00:17:41.100 until you can't.

00:17:41.760 We all thought we had

00:17:42.260 so much more time with Charlie

00:17:43.160 and he struck down

00:17:44.260 in the prime of his life.

00:17:45.480 We all think we have

00:17:46.580 a big shot in our political order

00:17:48.140 if everything's going to go

00:17:49.200 hunky-dory

00:17:49.760 until you can't

00:17:50.960 and it even showed

00:17:52.120 his evolution

00:17:53.000 as an artist

00:17:53.760 from this guy

00:17:54.680 who's like rapping

00:17:55.360 and bopping around

00:17:56.260 as a kid

00:17:56.820 to this older,

00:17:57.900 more mature feeling.

00:17:59.180 It actually really

00:18:00.180 struck a chord with me.

00:18:01.160 I don't love modern music either

00:18:02.460 but I thought this was

00:18:03.620 a moment where,

00:18:04.700 yeah,

00:18:04.960 conservatives had the guts

00:18:06.020 to offer an alternative

00:18:06.820 and they succeeded

00:18:08.260 in getting tens of millions

00:18:09.360 of views

00:18:09.840 but they did something

00:18:10.800 conservatives never do.

00:18:12.140 They did it at the very least

00:18:13.520 a little bit

00:18:14.140 which is they offered something

00:18:15.600 that was artistically interesting

00:18:17.600 and kind of bold.

00:18:19.220 Maybe I'm too glass half full here.

00:18:21.480 By the end of it,

00:18:22.320 I thought that was actually

00:18:23.300 a really beautiful choice

00:18:24.360 and a fitting way

00:18:25.240 to end the show.

00:18:26.240 Yeah,

00:18:26.460 and then we also got

00:18:27.680 the other thing

00:18:28.340 that we're used to

00:18:28.840 from conservatives

00:18:29.620 which is you have

00:18:30.740 this huge win,

00:18:32.220 this unprecedented

00:18:33.620 that you counter-program

00:18:34.720 the Super Bowl

00:18:35.400 and it pays off.

00:18:37.680 I think the biggest

00:18:38.840 top three streams

00:18:41.280 in the history of YouTube

00:18:42.120 they had,

00:18:42.620 I mean it's huge

00:18:43.260 and then immediately

00:18:45.600 what do you have

00:18:46.280 on the right

00:18:46.880 which you never have

00:18:47.480 on the left

00:18:47.980 is all these conservatives

00:18:49.440 that have to start

00:18:51.240 well I don't,

00:18:51.960 you know,

00:18:52.620 I don't,

00:18:53.560 it seems like

00:18:54.320 that was a big win

00:18:55.040 but actually it's bad.

00:18:56.320 Let me explain

00:18:57.040 why this thing

00:18:57.840 that seems really good

00:18:59.140 is actually bad.

00:19:00.200 Let me explain why

00:19:01.300 yeah they went out

00:19:02.160 and did something

00:19:02.700 that had a big success

00:19:03.520 but it would have been better

00:19:04.460 if they didn't do that

00:19:05.500 or having these critiques

00:19:07.680 that are totally useless

00:19:08.720 like you know

00:19:09.440 what I think

00:19:09.780 would have been better?

00:19:10.620 What if they had

00:19:11.240 an even bigger star

00:19:12.380 than Kid Rock?

00:19:13.160 That would have been better.

00:19:14.120 Oh you think

00:19:14.500 they didn't think of that?

00:19:16.700 I like,

00:19:17.460 I got no problem

00:19:18.080 with Kid Rock.

00:19:18.880 Do you think

00:19:19.600 that the people

00:19:20.200 at TPUSA

00:19:21.400 thought that Kid Rock

00:19:22.340 is the biggest star

00:19:23.660 in the world?

00:19:24.600 No,

00:19:25.000 but they wanted

00:19:25.820 to put on this show

00:19:26.720 and you get

00:19:27.560 the biggest star

00:19:28.320 that you can.

00:19:29.320 They're dealing

00:19:29.720 with the fact

00:19:30.260 that number one

00:19:30.820 they're TPUSA

00:19:31.620 they're seen

00:19:31.980 as a conservative

00:19:32.540 they are a conservative

00:19:33.580 organization

00:19:34.180 and so that rules

00:19:35.220 out a lot of

00:19:35.980 you know

00:19:36.360 big stars already

00:19:37.960 and then on top

00:19:38.740 of that

00:19:39.020 you have other

00:19:39.760 big stars

00:19:40.240 who maybe would do it

00:19:41.660 but they're thinking

00:19:42.520 the same thing

00:19:43.000 you were thinking

00:19:43.420 Michael

00:19:43.720 and I was thinking

00:19:44.300 which is like

00:19:44.740 this is not going

00:19:45.840 to work

00:19:46.220 you're counter-programming

00:19:46.960 the Super Bowl

00:19:47.460 and so they don't

00:19:48.260 want to be

00:19:48.600 because what if

00:19:49.200 you get 500,000

00:19:50.080 live viewers

00:19:50.620 or something

00:19:51.040 and then it's

00:19:51.360 blamed on you

00:19:52.100 and so you

00:19:53.680 do what you can

00:19:54.620 you put on

00:19:54.980 as good a show

00:19:55.660 as you can

00:19:56.160 you take the swing

00:19:57.240 you go for it

00:19:58.200 and then if it's

00:19:59.140 a hit like it was

00:20:00.240 now in the future

00:20:01.200 you've done something

00:20:01.840 for the long term

00:20:02.500 it just pisses me off

00:20:04.160 that for so many

00:20:05.020 conservatives

00:20:05.480 and we all know

00:20:06.320 that it's really

00:20:07.400 just competitiveness

00:20:09.140 it's like envy

00:20:10.000 it's well they went

00:20:11.240 out and did something

00:20:11.840 and were successful

00:20:12.440 and I wasn't a part

00:20:13.620 of it so I have

00:20:14.180 to find a reason

00:20:14.740 to pick holes in it

00:20:15.500 and I think that's

00:20:17.000 one of the reasons

00:20:17.480 we lose

00:20:17.900 that our celebrities

00:20:19.640 tend to be older

00:20:20.580 because if you're young

00:20:21.480 they crush your career

00:20:22.340 I mean we see

00:20:22.880 with Sidney Sweeney

00:20:23.720 she didn't need

00:20:24.360 I don't even know

00:20:25.020 what her politics are

00:20:25.960 but all she had to do

00:20:26.880 was hint that there

00:20:27.620 was MAGA in her family

00:20:29.020 and she hasn't gotten

00:20:30.180 a good review since

00:20:31.040 they're making fun of her

00:20:32.240 and all this stuff

00:20:32.780 and that's why young people

00:20:33.720 don't do it

00:20:34.240 you know I have seen

00:20:35.540 I have seen John Voight

00:20:37.020 probably the bravest guy

00:20:38.340 in Hollywood

00:20:38.680 I've seen him counsel

00:20:39.860 young actors

00:20:40.800 you know

00:20:41.360 don't be doing this

00:20:42.840 don't do it

00:20:43.680 because you're not

00:20:44.100 going to get to the place

00:20:45.000 where you can do it

00:20:46.100 that doesn't happen

00:20:47.060 to left wingers

00:20:47.700 you know that actually

00:20:48.380 is a boost up

00:20:49.040 if you come out

00:20:49.560 and curse people

00:20:49.920 yes and you know

00:20:50.460 speaking of the envy

00:20:51.600 that people feel

00:20:52.360 and the resentment

00:20:52.980 and the need to

00:20:53.780 I just want to put it

00:20:55.500 on the record here

00:20:56.220 they should have invited

00:20:57.420 me to play ukulele

00:20:58.380 and it was a huge

00:20:59.180 miss for TQSA

00:21:00.140 we'll move on

00:21:01.540 because there will be

00:21:02.140 a Super Bowl next year

00:21:03.120 that's what I was watching

00:21:03.140 I was watching you play ukulele

00:21:04.120 you're just watching

00:21:04.560 my YouTube videos

00:21:05.680 playing ukulele

00:21:06.240 you know one thing

00:21:07.040 you can watch right now

00:21:08.220 only

00:21:08.980 only

00:21:09.760 if you are a Daily Wire Plus member

00:21:11.680 which you should

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00:22:27.240 what else can they watch Matt?

00:22:30.120 well also

00:22:31.040 Real History with Matt Walsh

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00:22:32.980 on Daily Wire

00:22:33.980 you know we put out

00:22:34.540 our episode about slavery

00:22:36.920 the real history of slavery

00:22:38.020 which did really well

00:22:39.840 a lot of people are

00:22:40.400 talking about it

00:22:41.440 we have

00:22:41.880 coming out

00:22:42.580 in a couple of weeks

00:22:44.160 our next episode

00:22:45.120 that I'm very excited about

00:22:46.180 because it's the real history

00:22:47.340 of the

00:22:48.620 of the American Indian

00:22:50.160 and the actual story

00:22:51.460 of the conflict

00:22:52.160 between

00:22:52.680 you know

00:22:53.600 European settlers

00:22:54.720 and then Americans

00:22:56.020 with the

00:22:56.920 with the Native Americans

00:22:58.020 and we all know

00:22:58.880 the story

00:22:59.700 that we're often told

00:23:00.940 we're told in schools

00:23:02.220 about the smallpox blankets

00:23:03.640 and the trail of tears

00:23:04.980 all of that is fake

00:23:06.340 it's all a myth

00:23:06.980 and we expose that

00:23:08.400 but you gotta become a subscriber

00:23:09.540 to watch it

00:23:10.620 that's absolutely true

00:23:11.720 now what I want to do

00:23:12.680 is I want to beauty

00:23:14.220 and eloquence max

00:23:15.400 our conversation right now

00:23:17.000 and I want to have

00:23:18.040 a little John Calvin mogging

00:23:19.600 to weigh in

00:23:20.580 on the latest trend

00:23:21.880 of meth addicted

00:23:22.960 face smashers

00:23:24.360 namely my former guest

00:23:26.620 clavicular

00:23:27.440 and and we should do that

00:23:28.900 with our friend

00:23:29.540 Allie Beth Stuckey

00:23:30.320 Allie hello

00:23:30.980 first of all

00:23:32.120 I just want to say

00:23:32.760 thank you for introducing me

00:23:33.900 as John Calvin

00:23:34.580 I was not expecting that

00:23:36.160 but I appreciate it

00:23:38.320 your audience probably

00:23:40.100 doesn't even know

00:23:40.780 who John Calvin is

00:23:41.860 I am like your audience's

00:23:43.240 introduction to

00:23:44.440 evangelicalism

00:23:45.920 so you are welcome

00:23:47.380 for that

00:23:48.160 you asked about someone

00:23:49.980 clavicle

00:23:50.740 clavicular

00:23:51.860 I can never

00:23:52.660 think of what his name is

00:23:53.940 because I hadn't heard of him

00:23:55.020 until I saw him go viral

00:23:56.020 on your show Michael

00:23:56.960 and I don't know

00:23:58.500 any of the words

00:23:59.200 that you said

00:23:59.800 I don't know mogging

00:24:00.940 I don't know looks

00:24:02.140 maxing

00:24:03.180 I think you said

00:24:03.760 that he's in jail

00:24:04.600 I'm going to need

00:24:06.280 to get an update

00:24:06.980 on who this person is

00:24:08.140 and why I should care

00:24:09.160 and the audience

00:24:09.920 might need that too

00:24:11.020 so clavicular

00:24:13.660 just for those

00:24:14.440 who haven't caught

00:24:15.180 my extended sit down

00:24:16.260 we're kind of joking

00:24:17.100 about him

00:24:17.480 because he uses goofy language

00:24:18.560 and he's a 19

00:24:19.320 I think now he's 20

00:24:20.300 and he gets into

00:24:21.520 all sorts of trouble

00:24:22.200 but I actually think

00:24:23.560 he's quite an interesting

00:24:25.180 cultural figure

00:24:26.120 because he's apolitical

00:24:29.260 he was kind of mocking me

00:24:31.000 for caring at all

00:24:32.140 about politics

00:24:32.840 he said he wanted to vote

00:24:34.120 for Gavin Newsom

00:24:35.020 over J.D. Vance

00:24:36.360 because he finds

00:24:36.840 Newsom sexier

00:24:37.820 he said he doesn't care

00:24:39.020 about the transgender issue

00:24:40.220 because transvestites

00:24:41.800 are just another person

00:24:42.720 to mog

00:24:43.300 and he doesn't want

00:24:44.260 to spike his cortisol

00:24:45.200 by stressing out

00:24:46.540 about politics

00:24:47.260 and I'm sure he's joking

00:24:48.740 about some

00:24:49.720 or all of that

00:24:50.400 but there is a reason

00:24:52.260 why he's caught attention

00:24:53.300 and I think some of that is

00:24:55.080 because it's such a swing

00:24:56.980 everything is so politicized

00:24:58.480 and he is this kind of

00:25:00.020 decadent

00:25:01.060 Nietzschean figure

00:25:03.160 and in many ways

00:25:04.460 it's funny

00:25:04.860 he was talking about

00:25:05.580 the transvestite issue

00:25:06.940 because he himself

00:25:08.680 kind of openly embraces

00:25:10.160 a right wing form

00:25:11.780 of body dysmorphia

00:25:13.620 where he says

00:25:14.480 that all that matters

00:25:15.480 is how you look

00:25:17.260 and he brags

00:25:18.460 about how he injected himself

00:25:19.640 with illegal testosterone

00:25:20.760 starting at age 14

00:25:22.240 he made himself

00:25:23.300 infertile because of it

00:25:24.780 but he wants to look smacks

00:25:26.380 because all that matters

00:25:27.120 in this world

00:25:27.700 is appearances

00:25:28.580 so we need to be decadent

00:25:29.820 hedonistic

00:25:30.660 create our own meaning

00:25:31.900 and then basically

00:25:33.280 take a dirt nap

00:25:34.040 and turn to worm food

00:25:34.920 so the reason

00:25:35.940 that he is important

00:25:36.620 is because he has

00:25:37.220 700,000 TikTok followers

00:25:39.500 I believe

00:25:40.160 and he has

00:25:41.940 an enormous following

00:25:43.440 on kick

00:25:44.480 like his kick stream

00:25:45.820 is worth a fair bit of money

00:25:47.020 and that means

00:25:47.740 there are a bunch

00:25:48.160 of young people

00:25:49.020 who are watching

00:25:49.580 this kind of crap

00:25:50.500 and treating it

00:25:51.740 with seriousness

00:25:52.720 and again

00:25:53.340 this is a person

00:25:53.720 who says

00:25:54.040 that he takes crystal meth

00:25:55.100 in order to make sure

00:25:55.800 that he does not gain weight

00:25:56.780 and that in order

00:25:58.160 to maximize his jawline

00:25:59.380 he has himself

00:25:59.960 in the face

00:26:00.380 with hammers

00:26:01.240 a thing he has actually

00:26:02.220 recommended to people

00:26:03.980 and Michael somehow decided

00:26:05.080 that it was important

00:26:05.640 to bring this

00:26:06.040 to the mainstream

00:26:06.560 and so now

00:26:08.000 I was clearly right

00:26:09.600 people are talking about it

00:26:10.720 that is fair

00:26:12.280 but were you the cause

00:26:13.400 or were you simply

00:26:14.140 a symptom

00:26:14.680 of the decline

00:26:15.360 of western civilization

00:26:16.240 Michael

00:26:16.760 I've been examining

00:26:17.660 my conscience

00:26:18.280 I'm not sure the answer

00:26:19.680 and so he was arrested

00:26:20.760 this week

00:26:21.320 because he was

00:26:22.040 carrying around

00:26:22.700 a fake ID

00:26:23.260 and he had a bunch

00:26:23.820 of drugs on him

00:26:24.600 and so he was

00:26:25.500 arrested

00:26:26.120 being underage

00:26:27.600 at a bar

00:26:28.020 and all the rest of it

00:26:28.820 he had also gone

00:26:29.440 to a pretty

00:26:30.420 well noticed

00:26:32.360 I would say

00:26:34.100 Nazi influencer

00:26:35.020 get together

00:26:36.200 with some of our

00:26:38.860 other friends

00:26:39.300 in this arena

00:26:39.780 he's sort of the

00:26:40.200 Milo Yiannopoulos

00:26:41.040 of the future

00:26:41.640 is that what we

00:26:42.500 can say about him

00:26:43.180 he will be Milo Yiannopoulos

00:26:44.740 I don't know if he's gay

00:26:45.360 or if he's just

00:26:46.040 you know

00:26:46.420 spending way too much

00:26:47.200 time on his beauty

00:26:47.880 regiment

00:26:48.280 you know

00:26:48.880 legitimately

00:26:49.420 I actually think

00:26:50.420 it's not a great

00:26:51.240 comparison

00:26:51.740 because Milo

00:26:52.600 whether you love him

00:26:53.220 or hate him

00:26:53.660 or feel indifferent to him

00:26:55.280 Milo does talk

00:26:56.680 about politics

00:26:57.240 he does think

00:26:57.880 about politics

00:26:58.520 he has read

00:26:59.460 a lot of books

00:27:00.080 and clavicular

00:27:01.140 is like the

00:27:02.060 opposite

00:27:02.520 clavicular is very

00:27:03.920 provocative and everything

00:27:05.040 but he assiduously

00:27:06.680 avoids anything

00:27:07.880 with real meaning

00:27:08.880 in fact

00:27:09.300 that's kind of

00:27:10.060 his pitch

00:27:10.620 to the audience

00:27:11.800 is I'm just

00:27:13.200 going to be

00:27:13.720 nothing but a

00:27:14.440 pretty face

00:27:15.100 and you know

00:27:16.640 that in itself

00:27:17.540 is kind of

00:27:18.400 meaningful I think

00:27:19.100 I only meant

00:27:19.660 in terms of

00:27:20.100 future irrelevance

00:27:20.960 I'm sorry

00:27:21.380 anyway

00:27:22.820 so Ali Beth

00:27:23.940 we have now

00:27:24.540 lectured you

00:27:25.240 about the

00:27:25.640 majestic importance

00:27:26.980 of clavicular

00:27:27.600 so your thoughts

00:27:29.040 okay I still

00:27:30.500 have more questions

00:27:31.420 I know he has

00:27:31.980 a lot of followers

00:27:32.740 but it's kind of

00:27:33.560 like just following

00:27:34.640 something because

00:27:35.400 it's bizarre

00:27:36.060 and you have

00:27:36.660 that kind of

00:27:37.620 odd interest

00:27:38.600 in it

00:27:38.940 I do wonder

00:27:39.860 how much of this

00:27:40.900 is actually a

00:27:41.580 pervasive trend

00:27:42.860 among boys

00:27:43.660 I mean previously

00:27:44.540 I'm a girl mom

00:27:45.560 the concerns that we

00:27:46.540 had for girls

00:27:47.120 is that they're

00:27:47.760 comparing themselves

00:27:48.740 to unrealistic

00:27:49.340 expectations

00:27:50.100 in magazines

00:27:50.880 and now on social

00:27:51.740 media

00:27:52.220 eating disorders

00:27:52.940 things like that

00:27:53.700 is this something

00:27:54.680 that is actually

00:27:55.740 being latched onto

00:27:56.800 by boys

00:27:57.480 who are so

00:27:58.200 obsessed with

00:27:58.660 their jawline

00:27:59.240 that they're

00:27:59.620 breaking it

00:28:00.180 with a hammer

00:28:00.700 or that they're

00:28:01.580 taking these drugs

00:28:02.340 in order to be

00:28:03.000 skinny

00:28:03.300 they want to be

00:28:04.240 empty headed

00:28:04.820 not really care

00:28:05.540 about what's

00:28:05.980 going on in the

00:28:06.760 world

00:28:07.000 like is this

00:28:07.800 something that

00:28:08.540 we should really

00:28:09.420 worry about

00:28:10.120 when it comes

00:28:10.820 to the men

00:28:12.500 that are coming

00:28:12.980 of age

00:28:13.460 yes

00:28:14.680 and the reason

00:28:15.580 why is that

00:28:17.020 and the reason

00:28:17.920 why I think

00:28:18.500 clavicular oddly

00:28:19.420 enough is an

00:28:19.960 important and

00:28:20.560 interesting figure

00:28:21.220 is that he is

00:28:22.960 a symptom

00:28:23.480 specifically of

00:28:24.420 our age

00:28:24.860 in his generation

00:28:25.580 and he's an

00:28:26.340 extreme version

00:28:27.020 of it

00:28:27.380 but he was

00:28:29.100 raised entirely

00:28:30.640 on the internet

00:28:31.340 this was the

00:28:32.200 through line

00:28:32.780 that I kept

00:28:33.180 trying to poke

00:28:33.840 at and figure

00:28:35.160 out in our

00:28:35.880 long conversation

00:28:36.840 was that

00:28:37.900 every aspect

00:28:39.220 of his life

00:28:39.900 from getting

00:28:41.120 the illegal drugs

00:28:41.920 when he was 14

00:28:42.480 to even coming

00:28:43.760 to the idea

00:28:44.540 that he should

00:28:45.420 be injecting

00:28:45.880 himself with

00:28:46.200 illegal drugs

00:28:46.680 to falling

00:28:47.800 into the

00:28:48.340 subcultures

00:28:48.920 that suggest

00:28:49.500 that all that

00:28:49.980 matters is how

00:28:50.500 you look

00:28:50.880 to the way

00:28:51.660 that he lives

00:28:52.100 his life

00:28:52.520 which is entirely

00:28:53.280 in a fishbowl

00:28:53.960 for live streams

00:28:54.840 the most extreme

00:28:55.980 24-7 version

00:28:56.980 of reality TV

00:28:57.760 all of it

00:28:58.880 is because he

00:28:59.720 was raised

00:29:00.300 on the internet

00:29:01.260 in a way

00:29:02.020 that none of us

00:29:02.800 were

00:29:03.060 you know I had

00:29:03.900 a computer

00:29:04.360 on the internet

00:29:04.840 since I was

00:29:05.220 five or six

00:29:05.660 years old

00:29:06.120 so even

00:29:07.540 even we

00:29:08.160 had some

00:29:08.580 touch of that

00:29:09.180 and this is

00:29:09.820 a completely

00:29:10.600 different level

00:29:11.420 and so

00:29:12.280 clavicular himself

00:29:13.600 creates a kind

00:29:14.760 of a hyper reality

00:29:15.880 where it's

00:29:17.380 it's so meta

00:29:18.760 his political

00:29:19.900 views are

00:29:20.400 meta political

00:29:21.140 his views

00:29:22.040 of what a man

00:29:22.760 is are kind

00:29:23.400 of meta views

00:29:24.600 it's like

00:29:25.320 this totally

00:29:26.440 abstracted image

00:29:27.580 of what a man

00:29:28.160 could be

00:29:28.680 that has nothing

00:29:29.640 to do with

00:29:30.160 fertility for instance

00:29:31.460 virility

00:29:32.280 you know where

00:29:32.780 the word man

00:29:33.700 comes from

00:29:34.200 vir

00:29:34.520 it has nothing

00:29:35.620 to do with

00:29:36.100 actually finding

00:29:37.600 a woman

00:29:38.020 getting married

00:29:38.800 doing anything

00:29:39.660 contributing to

00:29:40.460 your community

00:29:41.000 getting a job

00:29:41.780 it's all just

00:29:42.880 appearances

00:29:43.460 without substance

00:29:45.000 beneath it

00:29:45.640 but he's aware

00:29:46.960 of that

00:29:47.340 like he'll talk

00:29:48.040 about that

00:29:48.640 in a way

00:29:49.480 that I don't

00:29:49.920 know

00:29:50.100 it's a

00:29:50.560 Nietzsche

00:29:51.180 for 2026

00:29:52.180 I think

00:29:52.640 yeah I think

00:29:53.400 I think

00:29:53.760 look I think

00:29:54.420 that it's not

00:29:55.780 so much that

00:29:56.500 young men

00:29:57.260 will follow

00:29:57.900 everything that

00:29:58.860 this guy does

00:29:59.940 I mean maybe

00:30:00.360 some of them

00:30:00.740 will

00:30:01.040 but what he is

00:30:02.380 to Michael's

00:30:02.900 point I think

00:30:03.400 he's one of

00:30:04.100 the first

00:30:04.480 celebrities

00:30:05.000 of he's one

00:30:06.500 of our first

00:30:06.980 true you know

00:30:08.360 brain rot

00:30:09.180 celebrities

00:30:09.820 one of our

00:30:10.240 first true

00:30:10.820 slop celebrities

00:30:11.820 doom scroll

00:30:14.200 celebrities

00:30:14.740 in that he

00:30:15.460 doesn't it

00:30:16.820 and it's a new

00:30:17.820 kind of celebrity

00:30:18.520 too that we're

00:30:18.860 also dealing

00:30:19.220 with a kind

00:30:19.500 of like a new

00:30:19.900 kind of celebrity

00:30:20.560 a new kind

00:30:21.020 of fame

00:30:21.600 where the stars

00:30:23.600 of this of this

00:30:24.700 generation the

00:30:25.500 generation he's a

00:30:26.220 part of are

00:30:27.200 people who unlike

00:30:29.000 previous generations

00:30:29.800 they don't do

00:30:30.580 anything it's like

00:30:31.380 he doesn't sing

00:30:32.200 he's not really

00:30:32.820 good at a sport

00:30:33.700 he's not an

00:30:34.700 actor he doesn't

00:30:36.000 have an art

00:30:36.900 he doesn't he's

00:30:37.640 not even a

00:30:38.520 compelling charismatic

00:30:39.860 figure to Michael's

00:30:41.420 point he has

00:30:41.760 nothing to say

00:30:42.820 he's not like he

00:30:43.600 doesn't have

00:30:43.860 interesting ideas

00:30:44.840 there's just like

00:30:45.700 nothing there at

00:30:47.280 all he's just

00:30:48.020 kind of a guy

00:30:49.480 who lives his

00:30:50.880 life on the

00:30:51.800 internet for all

00:30:52.460 to see and I

00:30:53.020 think people and

00:30:54.140 it's kind of hard

00:30:54.780 to yeah it is

00:30:55.780 hard to get inside

00:30:56.560 the mentality of

00:30:57.300 someone who says

00:30:57.740 I think about

00:30:58.560 these streams

00:30:59.100 these like 24

00:30:59.820 hour streams I

00:31:00.860 mean we do

00:31:01.560 streaming because

00:31:02.280 we're doing a

00:31:02.840 show we're sitting

00:31:03.520 at a desk and

00:31:04.640 it's like hey I've

00:31:05.180 got some opinions

00:31:06.340 I want to share

00:31:06.880 with you today

00:31:07.380 here's what the

00:31:07.860 show's about but

00:31:09.020 there's a whole

00:31:09.480 other kind of

00:31:10.140 streaming where it's

00:31:11.360 just like nothing

00:31:12.040 is happening I'm

00:31:12.680 not doing anything I

00:31:13.620 have nothing to say

00:31:14.500 I'm not going to do

00:31:15.280 anything interesting

00:31:16.000 I'm not an

00:31:16.540 interesting person I'm

00:31:17.900 just going to

00:31:18.240 kind of like exist

00:31:19.300 for you to watch

00:31:21.160 and there's a

00:31:22.840 whole generation of

00:31:23.600 people that grow up

00:31:24.300 on that they just

00:31:24.920 they like to watch

00:31:26.020 other people exist

00:31:27.180 and I don't know

00:31:28.740 what to say about

00:31:29.540 that exactly but I

00:31:30.320 think it's I don't

00:31:31.020 think it's a good

00:31:31.420 thing I don't think

00:31:32.060 it's a good thing

00:31:32.540 why is it different

00:31:33.720 though in terms of

00:31:34.800 what Michael was

00:31:35.660 talking about why

00:31:36.580 is it different than

00:31:37.100 all the stupid crap

00:31:38.180 that young people

00:31:38.980 have always done

00:31:39.860 tied pods or

00:31:41.340 whatever the hell

00:31:41.800 they were chewing on

00:31:42.680 the other day from

00:31:43.680 eating goldfish back

00:31:45.100 in the 20s you

00:31:46.000 know I mean people

00:31:46.720 I mean young people

00:31:47.600 do stupid stuff and

00:31:48.860 in terms of

00:31:49.380 celebrities who are

00:31:50.240 famous for being

00:31:50.920 celebrities I mean

00:31:51.840 how do we have

00:31:52.800 those for like 50

00:31:53.820 years I think

00:31:54.580 what's different

00:31:54.960 here so I do

00:31:56.820 think that there

00:31:57.360 speaks to something

00:31:58.080 different it's not

00:31:58.800 just about the

00:31:59.320 celebrity culture it's

00:32:00.180 about the the utter

00:32:00.940 nihilism of the

00:32:03.260 moment I think that

00:32:03.960 that's that's the

00:32:04.820 thing that strikes me

00:32:05.500 about the clavicular

00:32:06.240 of it and by the

00:32:06.900 way not just about

00:32:07.480 clavicular I think it

00:32:08.340 strikes me about

00:32:08.980 Andrew Tate I think

00:32:10.020 it strikes me about

00:32:10.480 Nick Quintes I think

00:32:11.260 that at the root of a

00:32:12.660 lot of what's going on

00:32:13.500 right now is people

00:32:15.440 latching on to the

00:32:16.340 fact that young

00:32:16.920 people particularly

00:32:17.740 are feeling unmoored

00:32:19.480 they're feeling their

00:32:20.360 civilization has

00:32:21.260 somehow betrayed them

00:32:22.500 on the most

00:32:22.840 fundamental level and

00:32:23.920 that there is no

00:32:24.540 recipe for success and

00:32:25.720 so the people who are

00:32:26.360 finding success in this

00:32:27.320 moment are people who

00:32:28.200 are selling you a

00:32:29.080 black pill in order to

00:32:30.040 sell themselves and so

00:32:31.140 what they're basically

00:32:31.640 saying is there's no

00:32:32.420 way to fix your life

00:32:33.100 your life is is

00:32:33.860 tremendously meaningless

00:32:34.660 and the only way that

00:32:36.400 you're going to see

00:32:36.980 success in anything like

00:32:38.700 what young men want so

00:32:40.100 clavicular's real pitch

00:32:41.340 his real pitch in the end

00:32:42.320 is you can't get a

00:32:43.620 chick women are all

00:32:44.820 women are all terrible

00:32:45.700 everybody is a porn star

00:32:48.040 or or unavailable or

00:32:49.640 unattailable so you have

00:32:50.920 to mog everybody in

00:32:52.340 order for you to I

00:32:53.620 believe this is his

00:32:54.460 actual theory of life

00:32:55.340 Michael if I'm not

00:32:55.980 mistaken is that

00:32:56.560 basically there's a

00:32:57.020 small percentage of

00:32:57.700 men who are going to

00:32:58.100 get all the women so

00:32:59.080 you need to be at the

00:32:59.880 top of that food chain

00:33:00.780 and the only way to do

00:33:01.360 that is to hit yourself

00:33:01.960 on the face of the

00:33:02.520 hammer and take crystal

00:33:03.300 meth but the promise is

00:33:05.120 basically that

00:33:06.000 civilization is so

00:33:06.820 broken that your

00:33:07.900 shortcut is abandon

00:33:09.540 everything except you

00:33:10.580 have to look as good

00:33:11.340 as you possibly can

00:33:12.200 there's no meaning

00:33:12.760 there's no happiness

00:33:13.480 there's no joy there's

00:33:14.280 no fulfillment there's

00:33:15.300 no possibility of

00:33:16.080 civilizational uplift or

00:33:17.380 change all that there is

00:33:18.880 is your looks and if

00:33:20.180 you're if you're Andrew

00:33:20.760 Tate then it's the same

00:33:21.860 sort of thing you're

00:33:22.440 going to stand around

00:33:23.100 shirtless smoking a cigar

00:33:24.200 and telling people that

00:33:25.320 all of civilization is

00:33:26.300 corrupt and terrible

00:33:27.540 which is why you are

00:33:28.440 being targeted for your

00:33:29.540 for your truth telling

00:33:30.800 and meanwhile the only way

00:33:31.960 to get out of there is

00:33:32.660 to sell is to spend 50

00:33:33.960 bucks a month on his

00:33:34.800 on his scam artist

00:33:36.580 university or whatever

00:33:37.720 there's a distinction

00:33:38.640 yeah I think you're

00:33:39.800 diagnosing the cultural

00:33:40.860 milieu for sure but I

00:33:42.140 think there's a

00:33:42.480 distinction between all

00:33:43.540 three of those guys I

00:33:44.820 don't think they're all

00:33:45.640 nihilists I think with

00:33:47.060 someone by the way I

00:33:47.840 will point about that

00:33:48.580 that Fuentes was

00:33:49.200 partying with with

00:33:49.920 clavicular and Tate and

00:33:51.080 I have to say that it

00:33:52.200 was the first time that

00:33:52.860 I realized that God's

00:33:53.760 justice comes in many

00:33:54.520 forms because because

00:33:55.720 Fuentes for for all of

00:33:57.060 our I think merited

00:33:58.180 critiques of Nick

00:33:59.000 Fuentes is Fuentes is

00:33:59.940 not a stupid person and I

00:34:01.900 think the definition of

00:34:02.940 hell is probably being

00:34:03.720 stuck in a van listening

00:34:05.240 to Kanye West Nazi songs

00:34:06.660 with clavicular Andrew

00:34:08.000 Tate and Sneeko for

00:34:09.880 Nick Fuentes and then

00:34:10.680 having to go to a club

00:34:11.620 where clavicular tries to

00:34:12.920 introduce you to girls

00:34:13.700 so so you know everyone

00:34:14.820 gets what they deserve

00:34:15.600 even even sometimes in

00:34:16.820 this life that doesn't

00:34:18.020 sound like a good time to

00:34:19.200 you Ben that's shocking

00:34:20.280 on the distinction here

00:34:23.200 you you've you've got

00:34:24.280 Fuentes who is I don't

00:34:26.840 think he's a nihilist I

00:34:27.720 think he's a reactionary

00:34:29.540 and so I disagree I think

00:34:30.880 he's a nihilist I think

00:34:31.600 he's a nihilist

00:34:32.100 man masquerading as a

00:34:33.880 reactionary possibly he

00:34:35.420 certainly comes out of a

00:34:36.120 nihilistic sort of milieu

00:34:37.200 but I think he has at

00:34:39.720 least a somewhat coherent

00:34:40.800 and reactionary view of

00:34:42.340 politics someone like

00:34:43.420 Andrew Tate I think is a

00:34:44.360 hedonist and that's what

00:34:45.540 he's selling to people

00:34:46.320 but with clavicular I also

00:34:48.160 don't think he's selling

00:34:48.940 nihilism I think he's

00:34:50.560 selling vitalism you know

00:34:52.200 I think he's selling that

00:34:53.220 he's going to be the

00:34:53.920 ubermensch I mean the way

00:34:54.820 that he talks about how

00:34:56.400 people are supposed to

00:34:57.800 behave is he says we're

00:34:59.080 going to ascend or descend so

00:35:01.000 it's even kind of the

00:35:01.640 language of the the ubermensch

00:35:03.180 and the untermensch and and

00:35:05.000 he says that I don't

00:35:06.240 think he sees a lack of

00:35:07.820 meaning in the world so

00:35:08.980 much as maybe there is a

00:35:10.960 lack of meaning but we're

00:35:11.960 going to create our own

00:35:13.280 meaning and the only way

00:35:14.120 you're going to do that is

00:35:15.260 by mogging people through

00:35:16.580 sheer tyranny of will and

00:35:18.220 by perfecting your physique

00:35:19.680 in some ways I think

00:35:21.000 clavicular is born out of

00:35:22.960 bronze age pervert bronze

00:35:24.400 age pervert kind of

00:35:25.380 bringing up a Nietzsche for

00:35:26.940 the modern age so I'm not

00:35:28.160 even totally joking when I

00:35:29.700 make the Nietzsche

00:35:30.220 reference they're all

00:35:31.380 offering something a little

00:35:32.520 bit different and I think

00:35:34.240 that you know look I'm I'm

00:35:35.800 an old stodgy conservative

00:35:37.000 I everyone flirts they're

00:35:38.640 on the right they're on

00:35:39.300 the left they like Nietzsche

00:35:40.360 they like this they like

00:35:41.180 that me I stay pretty

00:35:42.440 consistent about it but but

00:35:43.920 that too is a different

00:35:45.560 kind of approach so they're

00:35:46.780 all offering something and

00:35:47.880 in a time of great

00:35:48.840 political shifting and

00:35:50.040 confusion I'm really not

00:35:51.440 surprised that different

00:35:52.500 guys like that are popping

00:35:53.420 off yeah man I was

00:35:57.420 thinking about the aspect

00:35:58.960 not just of like the

00:35:59.960 mogging which I'm still

00:36:00.920 trying to understand

00:36:01.600 exactly what that is and

00:36:02.900 the looks maxing but in

00:36:04.960 particular this aspect of

00:36:07.040 being streamed all the

00:36:08.040 time and I thought about

00:36:08.860 the Truman show and the

00:36:09.900 reason why that concept is

00:36:11.240 so disturbing to us is

00:36:13.740 because he didn't know

00:36:14.720 that his life wasn't real

00:36:16.080 but in this case this

00:36:17.360 person knows that his life

00:36:18.800 is not real because he's

00:36:20.360 playing a character all of

00:36:21.420 his friends are playing

00:36:22.060 the characters and

00:36:23.120 they're actually

00:36:23.580 consenting to that he

00:36:24.840 actually is consenting to

00:36:26.180 his life not being real

00:36:27.480 and just being a part that

00:36:29.120 he is portraying and

00:36:30.000 performing for an audience

00:36:31.100 and there's something

00:36:32.160 that is much darker

00:36:33.160 about that to me than

00:36:34.720 the whole like looks

00:36:35.620 maxing superficial part

00:36:38.440 of his worldview it's

00:36:39.980 that you actually don't

00:36:41.580 care that you are not a

00:36:43.400 part of reality and you

00:36:44.520 are curating every single

00:36:46.080 mundane moment for

00:36:48.140 something to be monetized

00:36:49.420 and for something to be

00:36:50.340 put out into the world

00:36:51.400 and you could have a

00:36:52.040 whole conversation about

00:36:52.920 family influencers and

00:36:53.940 things like that who do

00:36:55.180 the same thing but this

00:36:56.220 is that on steroids no pun

00:36:58.720 intended and that is what

00:37:00.960 is very disturbing if

00:37:02.760 other boys latch on to

00:37:03.900 something like that the

00:37:05.240 monetizing and the like

00:37:06.700 performative aspect of

00:37:08.800 reality that is very very

00:37:10.260 dark

00:37:10.600 you know that that's a good

00:37:13.340 point but one thing I

00:37:14.080 wanted to mention was

00:37:14.860 you know Michael you said

00:37:16.500 that clavicular has

00:37:17.720 sterilized himself is that

00:37:18.780 true

00:37:19.000 that's what he said I

00:37:20.500 don't know though and I

00:37:21.440 heard reports to the

00:37:22.260 contrary but I followed it

00:37:23.660 closely

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00:38:16.700 still remember I'll never

00:38:18.540 forget seeing the

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00:39:14.300 next topic we have to talk

00:39:15.720 about is I guess it's sort

00:39:17.460 of in all of our wheelhouses

00:39:18.420 but only one of us made a

00:39:19.600 global hit movie about it

00:39:21.020 there was a shooting in

00:39:22.340 Canada awful shooting nine

00:39:24.500 people dead plus the

00:39:25.780 shooter you know a bunch of

00:39:28.120 kids and then some people

00:39:29.060 who were next door and if

00:39:31.240 you read the Canadian media

00:39:32.280 reports about this they just

00:39:34.020 have no idea what the motive

00:39:35.300 could be if you listen to

00:39:36.800 the authorities the

00:39:37.700 Mounties are saying not only

00:39:39.220 that they don't know the

00:39:40.220 motive but hours after the

00:39:41.780 shooting they said we will

00:39:43.320 probably never know the

00:39:45.400 motive of the shooter so

00:39:46.980 right off that sets off your

00:39:48.260 bells you say all right let

00:39:48.980 me Google this for three

00:39:49.780 seconds or actually look on

00:39:51.320 X you're not going to find

00:39:52.280 it on Google you'll find it

00:39:53.060 on X with citizen

00:39:54.240 journalists and what do you

00:39:56.000 know the reports that we

00:39:57.800 have right now again maybe

00:39:58.860 it's changing in real time

00:39:59.660 but from everything we know

00:40:00.800 it is the sort of person that

00:40:03.260 you most expect Matt yeah

00:40:06.800 well and we expect it for a

00:40:08.180 reason I mean this is the

00:40:09.340 thing we have to realize that

00:40:10.840 you know I think if we look

00:40:13.640 if we look at the data trans

00:40:15.860 people account for more mass

00:40:18.760 shootings than anyone per

00:40:19.920 capita over the last couple

00:40:21.300 of years I don't even think

00:40:21.960 it's close and there's a

00:40:23.560 reason for that I mean by

00:40:24.800 definition if you are trans

00:40:26.640 identified person then you

00:40:28.700 are divorced from reality by

00:40:30.260 definition number one number

00:40:32.500 two you're radicalized because

00:40:35.320 because trans ideology is a is a

00:40:38.800 radical ideology so we know we

00:40:41.020 know those two things going in

00:40:42.300 and then number three you know

00:40:43.820 I I've said many times and I

00:40:46.820 think it's true that the

00:40:48.280 trend that trans ideology is

00:40:49.840 basically defeated at a

00:40:52.080 cultural and political level

00:40:53.680 which I think that it is now

00:40:55.220 the fight continues it's not

00:40:56.460 like we can just put our feet

00:40:57.800 up at the desk and and and

00:40:59.420 call it a day but it's

00:41:01.400 basically defeated at those two

00:41:02.520 levels but what that means is

00:41:03.900 that actually that's going to

00:41:06.060 make trans identified people

00:41:07.400 potentially an even greater

00:41:08.400 threat going forward because now

00:41:10.180 you've got a lot of people that

00:41:12.640 were sold a lie and and now

00:41:16.040 they're starting to realize that

00:41:17.060 it was a lie and and and

00:41:19.080 society has moved on from them

00:41:21.400 and now on top of everything

00:41:23.440 else on top of being radicalized

00:41:25.140 being self-destructive by

00:41:26.740 definition being confused

00:41:28.860 they're now they're feeling

00:41:30.400 humiliated and betrayed and you

00:41:32.960 know left behind and I think

00:41:34.920 we're going to see more and more

00:41:35.740 people lashing out violently and

00:41:37.820 unfortunately you know it's only

00:41:39.820 going to get worse from from

00:41:41.060 here I have to say I want to go

00:41:42.520 back to something link this back

00:41:44.180 to something Ben was talking

00:41:45.260 about when Ben was describing

00:41:46.940 why nihilism is attractive to

00:41:50.040 people he was talking about

00:41:50.980 their sense that the that the

00:41:53.500 civilization has betrayed them

00:41:54.780 that there's nothing they can

00:41:55.600 get out there's no path to

00:41:56.640 happiness there's no path to

00:41:58.160 success I think a lot of that

00:41:59.520 stuff is true and you know I

00:42:01.480 think and their sense that is

00:42:03.500 it's worse than it's been I

00:42:05.220 think is is actually true and

00:42:07.060 the sense that they were never

00:42:08.020 given a sort of spiritual target

00:42:10.400 to something an inner identity

00:42:12.680 that they could move toward that

00:42:14.240 is not you know who they are

00:42:15.540 they've been told that their

00:42:16.400 identity is their race or their

00:42:17.800 sexuality instead of that person

00:42:19.560 that we all know that we should be

00:42:20.860 but we're not that kind of God

00:42:22.960 made person that we have to

00:42:24.120 become and work to become and I

00:42:25.780 think a lot of this links into

00:42:27.380 that and I and I think that you

00:42:29.040 know we're in a transitional period

00:42:31.040 and transitional periods feel like

00:42:32.600 that especially when we have a

00:42:34.160 journalistic class that no history

00:42:35.980 to in the mind of a journalist is

00:42:38.160 Rome fell and then Hitler came

00:42:39.760 those are the two things they

00:42:40.700 know happened in history so

00:42:41.900 whenever so there's a

00:42:43.460 transitional moment it must be

00:42:44.800 right before you know the Caesar

00:42:46.460 or Hitler or some some

00:42:48.440 journalists know that there were

00:42:49.440 two falls of Rome the

00:42:50.620 republic and then the empire so

00:42:52.020 there might be a thousand years

00:42:53.080 of darkness brought on by the

00:42:54.220 catholic church that's the other

00:42:55.160 thing that the the journalists

00:42:56.680 know but I think you know so much

00:42:59.760 of this transgender stuff it's it

00:43:02.980 does speak to something in a

00:43:05.040 society that's not having babies

00:43:06.640 in a society that feels that you

00:43:08.400 know what are women they can't not

00:43:09.880 only do they not know what what a

00:43:11.800 woman is they don't know what a

00:43:13.260 woman is for women themselves don't

00:43:15.500 know what they're for you know what

00:43:17.360 what matters about them what makes

00:43:18.920 them so important what makes them

00:43:20.320 precious in a civilization so all of

00:43:23.180 that stuff is true I think and the

00:43:24.840 question is who is going to come

00:43:26.120 forward and by the way I think the

00:43:27.780 answer is us but who is going to

00:43:29.760 come forward with a vision of the

00:43:31.680 the future where we get back get it

00:43:33.840 through this transition without

00:43:35.420 destroying ourselves and without

00:43:36.860 destroying everything that we hold

00:43:38.500 dear which namely is freedom and

00:43:40.800 life and God you know I don't that

00:43:42.960 that's the issue on the table and

00:43:44.940 when I see a thing like this where

00:43:46.540 they don't tell you it's it's not the

00:43:48.700 press on this in this case it's the

00:43:50.440 police who aren't telling people that

00:43:52.200 this is a transgender person and when

00:43:54.800 they just like they did in Nashville in

00:43:56.440 the Nashville Christian school

00:43:57.960 shooting they just held it back that

00:44:00.440 that line is at the heart of this

00:44:04.840 disillusionment that you see in the

00:44:06.340 young and I think that truth and

00:44:08.260 telling the truth even if you get

00:44:10.060 accused of being a bigot or whatever

00:44:11.740 is is our first step in winning

00:44:15.040 people back well you know internet has

00:44:16.900 has made so much of this possible

00:44:18.760 and prevalent I mean some of the

00:44:19.760 information that seems to be leaking

00:44:20.940 out about this particular shooter is

00:44:22.400 that he may have been trans

00:44:23.300 radicalized at the age of 15 by

00:44:25.460 people who are on message boards and

00:44:26.980 and this goes back to something you

00:44:28.540 were saying Michael which is that when

00:44:29.660 people spend their entire lives

00:44:30.880 online it really does wreck your brain

00:44:32.440 our brains were not built for this and

00:44:34.020 we've built an entire system that

00:44:35.380 people have created as a virtual

00:44:36.800 reality and you find echo chambers of

00:44:38.820 people who are willing to say back to

00:44:40.840 you things that are utterly false and to

00:44:42.440 encourage you down paths that are

00:44:44.160 really quite dark either for their own

00:44:45.780 sick pleasure or because they

00:44:46.760 themselves don't know which paths to

00:44:48.720 take drew I will say that I think

00:44:50.500 that the myth that people don't have

00:44:52.360 choice in a way that they had choice

00:44:53.980 in the past I think that is a myth but I

00:44:55.480 think it is a pervasive myth because

00:44:56.940 people the feelings are real the

00:44:58.740 feelings of lack of choice are real

00:45:00.160 I'll say the lack of choice itself is

00:45:01.920 not real I think people do have

00:45:03.120 choice but I think that the the

00:45:04.520 feeling of a lack of choice has

00:45:05.800 become all pervasive and some of that

00:45:07.720 has actually been spurred by in some

00:45:10.380 ways the the economic prevalence that

00:45:12.360 we see around us I mean there's a

00:45:13.800 there's a fascinating section in

00:45:15.660 Dostoevsky's notes from the

00:45:16.880 underground in which the the narrator

00:45:19.300 is talking and he says you know there

00:45:21.460 may come a point where amidst plenty

00:45:23.140 amidst like things going really well a

00:45:24.900 man steps forward with arms akimbo and

00:45:27.160 says that we should just tear

00:45:28.840 everything around us down because we

00:45:30.420 have no choice we must exercise our

00:45:32.000 choice and better we should exercise

00:45:33.060 our choice to destroy things than that

00:45:34.840 we should have no choice in a

00:45:36.100 civilization in which everything

00:45:37.340 around us is built and I think you're

00:45:39.200 seeing that I think that the choices

00:45:40.700 that you're talking about drew which

00:45:42.120 are still in the hands of

00:45:43.160 individuals we've been told you can't

00:45:44.520 make that choice I don't like when

00:45:45.580 politicians do it I think

00:45:47.320 politicians do it all the time I

00:45:48.680 think commentators do it a lot to the

00:45:50.320 biggest choices we make in life the

00:45:51.900 really important ones like should I

00:45:53.840 get married should I have kids should

00:45:56.280 I join a church take those those

00:45:57.760 three let's take those three as a

00:45:59.160 start all three of those are

00:46:00.800 available to you the idea that these

00:46:02.520 are unavailable to you in a way that

00:46:03.840 they've never been unavailable to

00:46:05.220 anyone in history is a lie but when

00:46:07.500 enough people start to believe that

00:46:08.700 then you have a network of fact of

00:46:09.860 people who stop associating with

00:46:11.520 with each other stop going to church

00:46:13.080 because no one's why do you go to

00:46:13.940 church there's no one else there

00:46:14.740 stop dating because no one else is

00:46:16.660 dating and nobody's nobody's meeting

00:46:18.320 each other and and that all breaks

00:46:20.120 down into this sort of bizarre

00:46:21.680 atomistic individualism that

00:46:23.920 eventually results in people with

00:46:25.860 fragmented psyches and and I think

00:46:27.300 that's incredibly dangerous there is

00:46:29.140 a difference I completely agree that

00:46:30.820 there's oh first of all there's

00:46:31.800 always a choice but you're making the

00:46:33.700 choice in a in a situation where the

00:46:36.420 powers that be are against you which

00:46:38.640 was not true that's true for you and

00:46:40.480 me and for you and me you know you

00:46:42.020 joined the church everybody was like

00:46:43.200 hooray you're in a church we have a

00:46:44.720 place for you you're part of a bigger

00:46:46.140 community I think in this moment

00:46:47.880 people feel that the great weight of

00:46:51.140 the culture comes down on their heads

00:46:52.480 now look people have to have courage

00:46:54.460 that's just a fact of life you have

00:46:56.100 to have courage to live well you have

00:46:57.520 to have courage to live free and and

00:46:59.280 so I'm not accepting the whining part

00:47:01.740 of this but the sense that they've been

00:47:03.340 betrayed by the power the people in

00:47:05.640 power the people who have the power I

00:47:07.900 think there's a certain veracity to

00:47:09.920 that I think when they're closing your

00:47:11.540 churches but encouraging people to

00:47:13.300 riot and then telling you that the

00:47:14.560 riots are mostly peaceful I think a

00:47:16.860 sense of betrayal has a reality to it

00:47:19.480 and I'm not in favor of whining I'm

00:47:21.560 just in favor of seeing what's there

00:47:23.500 Ben mentioned fragmented psyches the

00:47:25.360 only person on this panel who doesn't

00:47:27.540 have a fragmented psyche is Ali who is

00:47:30.020 the only person who hasn't weighed in

00:47:31.300 on this Ali were you surprised by the

00:47:34.220 reports of the shooting yeah a couple

00:47:36.700 thoughts talking about a fragmented

00:47:38.200 psyche there is this great book by

00:47:39.980 Nancy Piercy called love thy body if

00:47:41.800 y'all have not read it you should and

00:47:43.360 she talks about this concept of

00:47:44.720 dualism the separation of the spirit

00:47:46.540 from the body and this idea that who

00:47:49.660 you identify as on the inside your

00:47:52.620 spirit identity is stronger than

00:47:54.660 physical reality and she talks about

00:47:56.380 the purpose of or the importance of

00:47:59.140 understanding your telos or your

00:48:00.940 purpose and that I think Clavin what

00:48:03.500 you were talking about is what we've

00:48:04.780 really lost sight of not just who we

00:48:06.920 are and what we do but our purpose why

00:48:09.860 we are here you mentioned that women

00:48:11.560 have forgotten what we are for and I

00:48:13.640 think the same is true of men whether

00:48:16.500 you're talking about this guy who

00:48:17.920 spends his whole life streaming and

00:48:19.340 trying to look a particular way he

00:48:21.260 doesn't realize what men are for you

00:48:23.660 are not just supposed to perform or

00:48:25.620 consume it's not even just about what

00:48:27.760 you produce there is a purpose in

00:48:30.160 masculinity and being able to procreate

00:48:32.480 and being able to protect and being able

00:48:34.400 to work hard there is a purpose in

00:48:36.580 womanhood and being a female that a man

00:48:39.280 can never fulfill but when we have kind

00:48:42.340 of elevated these two values of

00:48:44.420 autonomy and authenticity and we have

00:48:47.000 decided that those are the two highest

00:48:49.500 things that we can achieve and the two

00:48:51.980 highest goals that we can attain to

00:48:54.080 well then you do have this identity

00:48:56.020 crisis then you are trying to find

00:48:57.780 worth and meaning and value in all of

00:48:59.680 the wrong places and then you have

00:49:01.540 someone like this who not only convinces

00:49:03.600 himself that he is a woman but also

00:49:05.380 convinces himself that he is completely

00:49:07.000 justified and taking vengeance against

00:49:09.240 the people in society and family who

00:49:11.420 have done him wrong it really all goes

00:49:13.980 back to an understanding of the self and

00:49:16.580 not just who we are and who made us of

00:49:18.260 course I believe that's really important

00:49:19.580 but what we're for and and why we're

00:49:22.480 here so anyway that's my long-winded way

00:49:24.880 of saying I agree with you well this is a

00:49:27.560 great point you know it does go back to

00:49:29.660 the man that drew calls uncle aristotle

00:49:31.520 because the way aristotle saw the world was

00:49:33.700 through four causes the material cause the

00:49:35.920 formal cause the efficient cause and the

00:49:37.800 final cause and you know we don't need

00:49:39.580 to get into like all of those things but

00:49:41.320 the final cause is like what the thing is

00:49:43.460 for like what its purpose is and I think

00:49:45.640 if you were to present that to most

00:49:47.260 people today even on the right they would

00:49:48.820 be drooling and scratching their heads

00:49:50.280 the idea that that we can know from a

00:49:52.160 thing that it's like for something like

00:49:53.820 the leftist tears tumbler is for the

00:49:55.700 leftist tears or the cigar is for smoking

00:49:57.960 and they don't really seem to get that now

00:50:00.220 it led to this confusion of the

00:50:01.520 transgender movement which I thought was

00:50:03.520 kind of over but then you're still seeing

00:50:05.760 these spurts of it you get Gavin Newsom

00:50:07.740 saying I want to see more trans kids

00:50:08.940 Ali did you see Andy Beshear the it was

00:50:11.140 going viral I don't know if it was a

00:50:12.180 recent interview Andy Beshear comes out

00:50:14.080 and he's promoting the trans kids again

00:50:16.360 in the year of our Lord 2026 he said the

00:50:19.580 gospel supports them yes do you see that

00:50:23.500 as a as a bible believing Christian what's

00:50:26.040 your take on that this is the only

00:50:27.960 downside to not having a pope because I

00:50:31.380 wish that I were the Protestant pope so

00:50:34.180 I could excommunicate Andy Beshear and

00:50:36.600 all of these people who identify as

00:50:38.280 evangelicals who claim that loving your

00:50:41.060 neighbor is legally allowing a child to

00:50:43.800 be brutalized because they've been told

00:50:45.240 that they are born in the wrong body of

00:50:47.840 course we don't actually know what Andy

00:50:49.340 Beshear believes because a lot of

00:50:50.980 progressives will say that they follow

00:50:53.060 Jesus just by loving their neighbor but

00:50:55.020 they identify love how the secular

00:50:57.060 progressives identify love which is just

00:50:58.880 the affirmation of sin that's why I wrote

00:51:01.480 a whole book on this toxic empathy they

00:51:03.360 exploit your compassion by telling you

00:51:06.660 that you can only be a good person by

00:51:08.320 affirming these destructive policies and

00:51:10.940 validating lies and affirming sin or

00:51:13.740 else you're not compassionate you're not

00:51:15.260 loving you're not empathetic and that's

00:51:16.740 exactly what he's doing here he is

00:51:18.480 emotionally extorting you he's

00:51:20.080 religiously extorting you Gavin Newsom

00:51:22.080 does the same thing a lot of these

00:51:23.740 leftists who suddenly identify as

00:51:25.740 Christians Hillary Clinton they're all

00:51:27.820 doing the same thing saying well

00:51:29.420 Christians like me know what Jesus

00:51:31.640 really meant when he said love your

00:51:33.760 neighbor and what he really meant is

00:51:35.580 that you should allow a child to be

00:51:37.260 chemically castrated because they've

00:51:39.020 been told that they can switch sexes and

00:51:41.320 so it's the same thing that they do

00:51:42.820 with immigration they do the same thing

00:51:44.540 with abortion they do the same thing

00:51:46.120 with the definition of marriage they

00:51:48.180 say Christians have always believed

00:51:49.960 this and here's why when you push back

00:51:52.060 against them suddenly you're the bigot

00:51:53.480 when we're just echoing what Jesus

00:51:54.940 said 2,000 years ago you know I think

00:51:58.740 we have we actually we four have the

00:52:00.400 power to elect Ali Beth the Pope of the

00:52:02.640 Protestants yeah I believe that's

00:52:04.480 legally in our can we do that right

00:52:06.780 now and Andy Beshear is absolutely of

00:52:10.800 course going to run for president

00:52:11.820 according to our sponsors over at

00:52:13.180 Cal sheet 80 percent shot that he runs

00:52:14.940 for president in 2020 I don't know why

00:52:16.600 he thinks that he's going to get

00:52:17.620 anywhere in in those primaries he's

00:52:20.600 second only to our old friend Gavin

00:52:22.340 Newsom in in that in that betting

00:52:24.000 market by the way but you know one of

00:52:25.820 the things that I think is fascinating

00:52:27.400 about all of this and Drew you brought

00:52:29.120 this up and Ali Beth you were saying it

00:52:30.740 as well the you know we've been

00:52:33.240 focusing a lot on young men like what's

00:52:34.700 wrong with young men and one of the

00:52:36.380 things that you'll constantly hear from

00:52:37.700 young men particularly is I can't find

00:52:39.580 a girl it's hard for me to find a

00:52:40.660 girl there the the women of the past

00:52:42.520 just aren't there anymore and this is

00:52:44.200 one that I just statistically speaking

00:52:46.420 it is more true than many of the other

00:52:47.760 complaints that are out there because

00:52:49.080 when you look at the polling data right

00:52:50.680 now women for example are saying that

00:52:52.340 they want to have kids at a lower rate

00:52:54.100 than men do which is historically not

00:52:57.140 only an aberration or an outlier it is

00:52:58.820 an extreme outlier it's it's totally

00:53:00.620 insane and and when you have a women

00:53:03.240 who don't know that a defining

00:53:05.680 characteristic of being a woman is is

00:53:07.240 the ability to have children that this

00:53:08.700 is in fact the reason for the the actual

00:53:11.280 biological the answer to Matt's

00:53:13.300 question what is a woman is a large

00:53:15.820 egg producing it is a large gamete

00:53:19.240 producing specimen of the human

00:53:21.340 species right it's this is actually

00:53:23.040 how you define biological sex is by

00:53:25.220 the type of reproductive material

00:53:26.900 produced men are small gamete

00:53:28.420 producing sperm women for yourself

00:53:30.680 speak for yourself small gametes all

00:53:32.660 right but this is but but the fact that

00:53:35.560 that women have taken this and they've

00:53:37.420 put it to the side of course men think

00:53:39.900 that they can be women or women can be

00:53:41.060 bad because if you take away literally

00:53:42.260 the most distinctive part of human

00:53:44.800 existence in life and then you say that

00:53:47.200 it's completely irrelevant then what

00:53:49.060 you're going to get is men either

00:53:50.440 wanting to be women or just to exploit

00:53:52.860 women and treat women as though women

00:53:54.480 are men right and and treat women as

00:53:56.540 though and and this is one of the I

00:53:58.060 think fundamental characteristics that

00:53:59.320 maybe old-fashioned men like I think

00:54:00.980 all four of us who are who are men here

00:54:03.040 on the panel like we we see women as

00:54:05.340 things to be treasured and protected but

00:54:06.980 if women see themselves as just men

00:54:10.180 with different frames then you can see

00:54:13.380 why terrible toxic men would actually

00:54:15.980 treat women like they treat men right

00:54:18.640 as just as as though you know you go to

00:54:21.260 the bar and you treat a woman the same

00:54:22.720 way that you treat a dude and it's it's

00:54:24.200 you know that that is a fundamental

00:54:25.640 break that I think has not been

00:54:27.460 rectified yet yes you know women will

00:54:29.560 never frame mog men because women have

00:54:31.720 smaller frames and that's just a fact of

00:54:33.680 biology you know and if you want to

00:54:35.140 acknowledge max you have to acknowledge

00:54:36.260 that uh Ali wonderful as always to see

00:54:39.000 you thank you for degrading yourself by

00:54:41.360 joining us yeah I'm sorry for you and

00:54:44.100 for your dignity yes but I'm very

00:54:45.580 pleased for us that you would you would

00:54:47.700 join us here elevated us I think that

00:54:49.700 was the important without question by

00:54:51.420 the way if you want more Ali Stuckey and

00:54:53.080 who doesn't want more Ali Stuckey you

00:54:55.540 can go catch her at the share the arrows

00:54:58.140 Christian women's conference they didn't

00:54:59.920 invite me tickets go on sale tomorrow had

00:55:02.560 seven thousand women there last year and

00:55:06.040 now it could be seven thousand and one if

00:55:07.380 you show up share the arrows dot com also

00:55:09.440 Ali's gonna be moderating the Texas

00:55:10.800 Republican Attorney General debate next

00:55:13.820 Tuesday a woman of many talents and many

00:55:16.220 interests okay now what I want to talk

00:55:18.840 about and I know what you want to know

00:55:20.580 about is the most tantalizing bizarre

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00:55:25.680 that Savannah Guthrie the the like today

00:55:29.080 show lady her mother was kidnapped and no

00:55:31.440 one seems to know anything about it and

00:55:32.760 they said they think they found the guy

00:55:33.880 but then they didn't find the guy and

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