＂I Was Struck By Lightning＂ YES or NO ｜ Jim Caviezel & Tim Ballard
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Summary
Jim Caviezel and Tim Ballard join the Yes or No team to play a game about lightning and whether it's good or bad to be struck by lightning. Plus, a story about a lightning strike on the set of the movie The Passion.
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It's just a coincidence that many elites in Hollywood and big tech are also some of the harshest critics of the Sound of Freedom movie.
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It's cheating. It's cheating. I want the judges to note that.
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But it is very rare to meet one of the great American heroes.
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It's very rare to meet one of the greatest living actors.
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And it is rarer to meet them both at the exact same time.
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But that is what we are doing on today's episode of Yes or No, where I am joined by the greats Jim Caviezel and Tim Ballard.
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Now, before we get to this game, and before you get to see the guys, you've got to head on over to dailywire.com slash shop,
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where you can get your very own copy of the Yes or No game.
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Jim Caviezel and Tim Ballard are not included in the pack, but you will get lots of cards and game pieces.
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Figure out how well you know your friends and family.
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Well, as impressed as you are, my family knows that this idiot is terrible at these board games.
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So the basic idea of it is we're each going to take a card.
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And when you read the prompt, we're going to guess how the other person would answer.
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So if I read whatever the prompt is, I say, okay, I think Jim says yes.
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And then however you think I'll answer, you move my drink to wherever that is, and we figure out who's right.
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And then we're going to switch you out for you, Tim.
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But let's begin, Jim, with you, and let's see how bad you are.
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Are we putting money down because then the whole game becomes a different story with me?
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It's a good conversation starter, but in reality, getting struck by lightning is really not as bad as it sounds.
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How would I think that Jim Caviezel would answer this question?
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I would say Jim Caviezel answers that it's pretty bad to get struck by lightning.
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Yes, honest with how you think I would answer the question.
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I think that you need to tell me if you think that I think that it is good or bad to be struck by lightning.
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I'm going to say that it's not that bad to get struck by lightning.
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Our producers are basically illiterate, so don't worry about it.
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I don't have any experience being struck by lightning.
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So I think that you would think that it hurts pretty bad, and you would be right.
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And on the fifth take, it was really blowing really hard.
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And it looked like the clouds were so low, you could reach up and touch them.
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And so that felt like this is something really wrong here.
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And the ground felt like it was reverberating or something.
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And then on the fifth take, about three seconds before I got hit, I looked down and I saw two
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people and their eyes were watering because it felt like, and the other thing is you're
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And then this just like pulls your hair up and came down.
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And it was like an implosion of your head and an explosion of your head.
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But the first thing I felt was like an implosion.
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And he's kind of, now at this point, he had a lightning rod.
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He essentially had a umbrella and I saw his hand blow up.
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And then in 2000, I was on lots of medication from 2002.
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Until 2009, when I had my first heart surgery by Dr. Patrawaal in Stanford.
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And then my second major heart surgery was Dr. Griffin and Dr. Gilanoff.
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And then they completely cured me and I've never had any problem since.
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But it was, for those, you know, 12 years, tough.
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So I had heard the stories, you know, that you were struck by lightning on the set.
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So I have, you know, I get up, I was always on, you know, blood thinners, Coumadin, and
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stuff to keep the heart corrected from, you know.
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And the 2009, they seemed to fix it and then it just all got worse in 14.
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You know, of any kind of spiritual warfare really kicking in, I know both of you gentlemen
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Final shot of the Passion of the Christ would probably be a place where those sorts of things
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The line in the scriptures when Jesus said, I saw Satan come down like lightning.
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And I knew we were going to have a huge hit from that point.
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It was like calling an airstrike in on yourself.
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And I said, well, you know, there's a lot of people that are going to have a coming to
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Jesus moment and millions did and millions more will keep coming.
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You know, when I die, they'll just keep coming.
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There's no way I'm going to have an answer nearly as good as that one.
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It's just a coincidence that many elites in Hollywood and big tech are also some of the
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harshest critics of the Sound of Freedom movie.
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So I'll answer as I think Jim and Tim in this case would answer.
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You've got to move my class to how you think I would answer.
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I assume I guessed correctly for you as well, Jim.
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Now, usually the rule is you drink when you get a question wrong, but I feel we're going
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to be getting too many rights, so I'm just going to say I don't have to drink.
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You gentlemen are being much more responsible for an afternoon.
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Great kind of esoteric gin, but made to our specification by the producer team.
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Sound of Freedom was tied up for five years, bro.
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And I'll tell you, when I did The Count of Monte Cristo, I agreed to do the movie, and
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then when we came to Ireland, they completely rewrote the script, and they had no say in
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doing that because in my contract it said two parts.
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One, the director, Kevin Reynolds, that I'm a part of the process, and you can't rewrite
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my stuff without my say-so, and they rewrote it.
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And the part in the movie that was taken out was, when they rewrote it, was they removed
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I mean, so the Disney executive that was there was, you know, this is...
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And he says, so, oh, like, are you one of those?
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One of those who rewrite Alexander de Ma, that rewrites Shakespeare, because that's
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I don't know if it was like when the Count is in the...
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Or Edmund is in the prison, it was like some humanism, you know, find it in yourself, or
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But, you know, his Americans are one nation under God.
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I was so profoundly moved by the Ten Commandments by Charlton Heston.
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I was so profoundly moved by Jimmy Stewart in It's a Wonderful Life when he's in the bar
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and he says, you know, God, if you're out there, please help me, because I've been there.
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And now here I have an opportunity to express that in this film.
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And then Charlton Heston, of course, in Ben-Hur in 1959.
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So the industry has gone away, way, way, way to a point where...
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And I'll have this conversation with any of them.
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Sound of Freedom is something that burns inside you and you can't put it out, you see.
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And when I came back and I heard those children screaming, my first part was like, I got to
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find a place in this movie where maybe I can take the eye and do something to where I take
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I can't show you what's happening to this little girl with this man, but I can take you
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into my iris and it takes you to the edge of your seat.
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And then you get to understand what burns in this man's heart every day.
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And so when I was a young man and I was going to movies and I felt like, you know, God, are
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When I was at the lowest point in my life that I screamed out at 14, you know, I don't want
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And I go and talk to those kids and I say, as bad as it seems, I want to tell you my
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And I tell them and I said, how did I take in my own life?
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Can you imagine our loving God as a 14 year old and said, look what I was going to do for
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So this is a game of life, but it's a profound, profound game that we're in right now.
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And it's all about what we do for him because at the end is the only thing that matters.
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And you can't take, and your Rolex says, oh, what's going on?
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So Jim Caviezel, his Rolex gets to go to heaven.
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But listen, if the spirit does move you, Jim, and you want to get rid of it, just
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No, it's, you know, on the question, is it just a coincidence that the powers and the
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principalities and the spiritual wickedness in high places of this world always wants
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And then you refuse to do it and it's no, I mean, we're talking about some of your
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Your movies are all excellent and they're all excellent.
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They all resonate with people in a way that other movies, also with big actors and big
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Because there's something in your movies that are not in the movies offered by the
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To which point, currently, the CIA does more harm than good.
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We got any open windows in the studio right now?
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Do we need to verbally confirm that we are obviously correct in our guesses here?
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I believe that if they think you're afraid, then you're in trouble.
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Like, unlike you, I know I'm going to die someday.
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Whereas me, I've got at least another two centuries.
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You say, well, you know, I've seen a lot of old people die in nursing homes the worst way.
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The person that's suffering the most, they don't even see that pain.
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Whenever we get in a position where we're worried about our own skin, we're in trouble.
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And Jesus talks about, fear not the people that can kill you, your flesh.
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That's the one that you've got to be concerned about the most.
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You're going to hear the body and soul going to Gehenna.
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Yeah, that's why you've got to have a nice drink, baby.
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Then we get Christopher Walken on the show today.
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At the end of the show, I've got to have a bite of that olive.
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In the sound of freedom, the only part of Jim Caviezel's performance that could have been improved was his lack of muscle tone.
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Including Michael Mills backstage just about 10 years ago.
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Now listen, not everybody can be 300% muscle like the Discovery.
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But yes, because you know that every other aspect of the performance was perfect.
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I took that insult from the producers, turned it into a compliment.
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And I know, honestly, I talked to him about this.
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And he had huge, you know, beautiful legs and everything.
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And I said, that's all you're going to put on for me?
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The reason that this gets to the point of the movie.
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The reason the exploitation of children is so pervasive, while also actively ignored,
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The reason the exploitation of children is so pervasive, while also actively ignored,
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Just so you know, Jim, you're supposed to be drinking out of your cup.
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I think you're the first guest ever in the Michael Nellis show that's drinking out of his cup.
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ChatGPT is basically the beta version of Samaritan from Person of Interest.
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Person of Interest is the TV show that you started.
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Yeah, I think I'm going to defer to the star of Person of Interest on that.
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When we were working on that show, Jonah Nolan came over to me, and he said, I want to introduce
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And he comes over, and I said, ah, and he looked familiar.
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I know you've done some great films and everything, or I'm so sorry.
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And it's a TV show or something that I've seen yet.
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Twitter's going to be a free platform for Sound of Freedom, I think, mid-July.
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He's going to open it up for free and distribute it worldwide.
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Whatever reticence or skepticism I'd had early on of Elon, Elon gets it.
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All the other big tech guys shutting everything down.
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The Great Pyramid of Giza was built by primitive Egyptians who used wet sand to move 2.3 million
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perfectly cut blocks, averaging 2.3 tons each from quarries up to 500 miles away in a span
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In other words, the official scientific story of the Great Pyramid of Giza is the whole story.
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So isn't there a mystery about the eight wonders of the world?
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Jim kind of tips his hand, you know, a little bit on...
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But, yeah, I think there's a little bit more to the story than just...
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In general, it's more difficult to be a practicing Christian in Hollywood than it is to make it
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I'll just answer how I interpret the question and then get my thoughts.
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Yes, yes, because I'm not just interpreting that as you make it in Hollywood and then you're
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I mean, just to be a Christian living in Hollywood at any level, anywhere on the totem pole or
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in the industry, it is such a seductive place and there is so much titillation everywhere.
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I mean, we call it Gamora by the sea, that it is to keep your faith in that at any level
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Jim, from his experience, he says, it's a lot easier not to eat from the apple tree if
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And faith is, it's that way, but you got to, every morning I got up at 5.30 when I
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was trying to make it and I was in mass at 6.30 in the morning.
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You have to have, you have to work on the spirit.
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The spirit is going to move the mental and the physical.
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And then the other ones, if they have a spiritual thing, it allows them to do whatever they
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There's rules and they're there to protect you.
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Do unto others as you want them to do unto you.
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So my mindset is always, how would that feel if someone did that to you?
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And at the end of the day, if you're not going to be happy after you commit that sin, it
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is sin and you'd have to define it because then you don't have rules and you're not going
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to be, yeah, it's success you'll never enjoy because you have to have, um, one of the gifts
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of the Holy Spirit is gratitude and appreciation, right?
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As soon as you lose the Holy Spirit, you will not be grateful and you will not be appreciative.
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Someone could give you a Ferrari three days, you'll be like, you know, and there's more
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There was a Hollywood actor who just wrote a memoir.
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This is a guy who, I won't say his name, not to detract, but he, it's all public anyway,
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Big sitcom star, had everything this guy ever wanted.
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He got every hot girl, every dollar he ever wanted, every bit of fame he ever wanted.
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And the whole time he was miserable because of that, because there was no sense of what
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So it was just, you know, it was as Shaw, Bernard Shaw said that hell is the place where you
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You know, um, along the way in this business, you're going to have war injuries, okay?
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When you're younger, you get up, you train, you, you know, have a great physical, it's
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And then eventually, um, in the passion or in GI Jane, I, I severed my left pec.
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So then I lost my shoulder and I had to put the shoulder back in and it ripped out again
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and, and then lower back to where, you know, popped the disc.
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So as the time goes on in the business, though, how you, your physique and everything changes,
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it starts to, it wasn't the way you used to have it and the bicep is ripped, the ankle's
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got a plate in it, I've got it, you know, steel in my, uh, leg and all that, but I keep
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And, um, and so the, the, the body, it doesn't matter.
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It, it, you know, at some point you'll have nothing if what's inside here is corrupt, even
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if your body's perfect, this is all that matters.
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And then from this, it, you know, I just have to work through all of, of the things.
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Mother Teresa, would she say, um, to become humble, you have to experience humiliation.
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We're not, we don't usually look forward to it, but it can be very, but it's a weapon
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I'm not the best I was, but I'm still pretty good.
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In America today, the difference between most conspiracy theories and facts is about six to nine months.
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Difference between a conspiracy theory and facts, six to nine months.
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If my answer were no, it's only because I'd say it's three to six months.
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Unfortunately, the next cause that will be pushed by progressives will likely be for minor attracted persons' rights.
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You know, I never want to be hyperbolic about it, but I'm going to put that on a, well, what is Jim going to say?
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Because, look, I don't want to be hyperbolic about it.
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I don't want to, you know, jump straight to these guys are going to normalize pedophilia.
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I thought that was, look, it said it's going to happen.
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If you live in California right now, it's already happened.
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I very appreciate the moral and liquid support.
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I'm going to have to keep passing my martini to Jim across the side.
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Dealing with the powers of Hollywood is similar to dealing with cartels in other countries.
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I only have experience with one of those things.
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So after we did the big operation that's depicted in Sound of Freedom, it's October 11, 2014,
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the largest rescue operation probably recorded in history.
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And Hollywood started reaching out to me, which unexpectedly, like, hey, this sounds
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And my wife and I are looking at each other like, what is going on?
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Because we're in business because of these guys.
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I mean, these guys are creating the content that creates the sex addiction, that creates
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the demand, which is why this is even happening.
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You've got to want to have sex with kids or even adults who were once abused as children.
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And some fuel for that fire, which is coming out of porn in Hollywood.
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This is why 85,000 children unaccompanied showed up in the last two years and were let
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into the country, into the biggest child sex market in the world.
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People don't realize in the United States, we're the number one consumers of child sex material.
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We're in the top three for destination countries.
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I'm telling you, a lot of them are being abused.
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And so it was hard for me when Hollywood was screeching out because I'm like, the irony
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That's why when they came to me, these producers seemed different.
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He's the only person in Hollywood I will let play me because he loves Jesus and that we
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can fight the spiritual warfare and still tell a story.
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This business is the only business where you, we were just talking about this the other
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If you're a pedophile and you fail, you're going to go up.
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And the other thing I want to say, Michael, I was with Speaker McCarthy last week.
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And they were saying, what can we do about this border thing, all these kids?
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And I said, you've got to attach it to the whole movement.
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This whole minor attractive persons thing, the whole sexualizing of children, giving them
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Giving them 13-year-olds consent to gender mutilate is also giving them consent to have
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You've got to combine it all and understand that there's spiritual warfare and children
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for the first time in the history of America are at the crosshairs.
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If you're saying a child can consent to a permanent sexual change based on a sexual desire, how
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can you then argue that a much older minor can't consent to a one-night stand?
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You've limited God, science, the very virtues that built this nation.
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So mom and dad, you're getting social media hits and you're getting awards.
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But when your kid comes to you and says, I want to have sex with a 50-year-old pedophile,
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I got my doctorate degree at fact checking school.
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Because pornography has the same chemical reaction to the brain as drugs.
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So you do marijuana so much, the dopamine endorphin hit wears down like anything else.
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Well, in the porn industry, you're going to adult legal porn.
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That's why there's two million children currently in the commercial sex trade.
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We have to do other things in order to get rid of this.
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Which is educating the youth on the dangers of pornography.
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I think the naturally darker features, I think, are...
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When I told the producers that I wanted Jim to play me, they said no.
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But at the end of the film, there's a little cool thing where they take real footage from the actual...
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So there's this cool transitional kind of cool, like, into the real footage.
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I should say, I realize I haven't quite said this yet.
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And you're handling a very difficult subject with such delicacy in a way that is so...
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A lot of times we hawk movies that aren't that good.
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And because, you know, we like the cause and we like the mission.
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Yeah, the storytellers here on Alejandro Monteverde, Jim, and the others.
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But that was their one hang-up, is when we do the transition into the real footage...
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This is short, stocky, and gringo-ish, whatever.
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And I said, I don't care because he loves Jesus.
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So that's why I probably went to hoping it was a yes, just because I think they did a decent job.
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I mean, we look nothing like each other, but in the film, it's okay.
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Until it occurred to me in this question, it didn't even occur to me.
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Maybe it's just because the character, well, which is your life, the character is so engrossing.
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It doesn't even strike you that people look different.
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He has a childlike quality that is like David when Goliath was insulting his God.
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It's just that you can't insult my God like that.
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And so when Jesus came, I wanted to show the world that I loved him.
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And I wanted the world to know that we got to start telling God we love him.
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My favorite story, the behind-the-scenes of Sound of Freedom.
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And I don't even know if you know this, but there's one scripture that I go to.
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And there's one scripture I just repeat over and over in my head when I'm going into dark places.
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And it's the one time in the scripture where Jesus gets mafioso in his wording.
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It's not flipping tables at the temple, though.
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He says something that I think we just kind of go...
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We kind of blush by it, and I'll think about it.
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He says, it's better that a millstone be wrapped around your neck and you're thrown to the bottom of the sea.
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Than that you should hurt one of these children.
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And Jim pulls that line out of his, you know, ear.
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But he pulls that line out, and it's really complex and creative how he does it.
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Because I can go into dark places, because Jesus made it clear where he stands.
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He is so passionate about children not being abused, that he's telling you a warning that
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And obviously, the big grand ballroom was the temple, when he threw them out for what they
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And that he makes it known to us that it's okay to defend our God.
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And you see what's happening in the culture of grooming our children.
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And people, you know, you have, years ago, you had all truth, no grace.
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So you can go straight, you know, screw up, you go straight to hell, fire and brimstone.
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But then, in our time growing up, it was all grace and no truth.
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They go to church on Sunday and the blood washes all.
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So you got to take, we have to take him who he is.
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And I just felt like, what an extraordinary thing of events of us coming together and them
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trying to keep this film from seeing light of day, but boy, they're in trouble now, you
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know, because this thing is going to be a daisy cutter.
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What's sold, the movie, you can still get your tickets right now, today, Saturday.
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And the movie's already sold like a bazillion tickets, right?
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Yeah, but we are struggling with theaters because the studios control those.
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And, but what happened on The Passion, same kind of thing.
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But we, the people were calling day and night and the distributors, you know, a lot of them
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are Christian and they're like, look, it's business, you know, and if your film is not
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We're going up against Disney, the Indiana Jones.
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So there's some cool dynamics going on right here.
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And then right after us, we're in the midweek and then we go right into Tom Cruise's movie.
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But we're outselling Indiana Jones by 25% in the theaters where we're competing.
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That's why we're, that's why Angel Studios go to the theaters and say, guys, if you all
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do it together, they can't, they can't hurt you.
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Give us some more screens because we're selling out.
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And the, and the problem is, is that you're going to go, oh, you know, I'll wait until the
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Well, you'll go there on the day and you'll want to see the film.
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So you give your money to the, to the industry.
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And I let, you know, when they say, well, it's just business, I think that's what the
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invited guests to the wedding feast said, oh, I've got business.
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Gentlemen, I could stay here truly all day and especially because we have extra gin in
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the, but, but we've got to get you out of here.
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And so we're going to close it on this question.
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And Maxwell got convicted without any of the end users being identified, which is impossible.
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There's no transaction unless there's a receiver of the transaction.
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If in order for her to be convicted for something, there must have been.
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And then his association with the intelligence apparatus of the country.
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You mean how the labor secretary nominee actually said, who was U.S. attorney at the time prosecuting,
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Epstein said that he learned that he had to lay off Epstein because he belonged to intelligence?
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After this movie comes out, we'll all be wearing gold diapers.
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I gotta tell you, everybody does a Christopher Walken.
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When we screened this in Las Vegas, 1,500 people, five screenings, and during one section of Sound of Freedom, they were all talking.
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After the end of the five screenings, got up, talked to all of them.
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And I said, why were you guys talking during this one particular part?
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And you realize that it ain't the only sex island out there.
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And there's a scene, not spoiler alert, there's a scene that takes place on an island.
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And it was the first thought I had was, oh yeah, it's Little St. James.
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Or just one of perhaps the many Little St. James out there.
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A lot of really important stories that you are living, that you are telling.
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It would be enough that it's reflecting this unbelievable work.
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And people need to get their tickets, if they still can.
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I mean, they're pushing how big they want to make this.
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I spent most of the time over here watching, just observing this game.
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Is this the first time that one of your guests swaps saliva with you by partaking of the same
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cup, even though he was supposed to partake of his own cup?
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I just have to know the answer to this, because this.
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I actually had the thought, but I feel like I've got permission if Jim says it.
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Then I'll let you go, but this was a story that I mentioned to Jim a little bit earlier.
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A priest friend of mine, very close priest friend of mine, Jim was once staying at his
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This is like William F. Buckley version of a Catholic priest.
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Yes, he's a wonderful, wonderful man, but he said, I'm obligated to go see the Pope right
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now, but I'm really upset by this fact, and I think it's ridiculous, because I have Jesus
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Christ himself in my rectory, and I thought that was a great observation and an honor,
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Jim, that you and I could share this martini, and Tim, that you and I could share this game.
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If I was a Mormon, I would have shared it with you as well.
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Thank you for the great movie, and I look forward to seeing it in theaters.
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