The Michael Knowles Show - ＂I Was Struck By Lightning＂ YES or NO ｜ Jim Caviezel & Tim Ballard

00:00:00.000 It's just a coincidence that many elites in Hollywood and big tech are also some of the harshest critics of the Sound of Freedom movie.

00:00:07.320 Does Michael think it's a coincidence?

00:00:08.780 I'm just thinking about it for a second.

00:00:10.440 I don't think he thinks it's a coincidence.

00:00:14.420 Don't give me the answer.

00:00:16.860 It's cheating. It's cheating. I want the judges to note that.

00:00:30.000 I don't usually get starstruck.

00:00:37.160 I've met plenty of famous people.

00:00:39.260 But it is very rare to meet one of the great American heroes.

00:00:43.900 It's very rare to meet one of the greatest living actors.

00:00:47.120 And it is rarer to meet them both at the exact same time.

00:00:50.840 But that is what we are doing on today's episode of Yes or No, where I am joined by the greats Jim Caviezel and Tim Ballard.

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00:01:09.220 Jim Caviezel and Tim Ballard are not included in the pack, but you will get lots of cards and game pieces.

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00:01:21.780 Gentlemen, thank you for coming on the show.

00:01:24.580 Well, as impressed as you are, my family knows that this idiot is terrible at these board games.

00:01:30.840 So I don't know what I'm doing.

00:01:32.860 I'm glad.

00:01:33.460 So the basic idea of it is we're each going to take a card.

00:01:37.900 I'll take a card.

00:01:38.580 I'll read the prompt.

00:01:39.360 Then later on, you'll take a card.

00:01:40.640 And when you read the prompt, we're going to guess how the other person would answer.

00:01:45.380 So if I read whatever the prompt is, I say, okay, I think Jim says yes.

00:01:48.820 And I move your drink to yes.

00:01:50.640 Okay.

00:01:50.940 And then however you think I'll answer, you move my drink to wherever that is, and we figure out who's right.

00:01:55.960 Somehow people are awarded points.

00:01:57.620 And then we're going to switch you out for you, Tim.

00:02:01.140 But let's begin, Jim, with you, and let's see how bad you are.

00:02:03.780 Are we putting money down because then the whole game becomes a different story with me?

00:02:08.100 Okay.

00:02:08.640 All right.

00:02:09.740 It's a good conversation starter, but in reality, getting struck by lightning is really not as bad as it sounds.

00:02:16.720 Yes, the answer yes would be it's not so bad.

00:02:21.640 The answer no would be it's pretty bad.

00:02:24.380 How would I think that Jim Caviezel would answer this question?

00:02:27.720 I would say Jim Caviezel answers that it's pretty bad to get struck by lightning.

00:02:33.160 Now you move my game piece.

00:02:37.860 So I've got to be honest, right?

00:02:39.940 Yes, honest with how you think I would answer the question.

00:02:42.500 I think that you need to tell me if you think that I think that it is good or bad to be struck by lightning.

00:02:49.200 I don't even know what that answer means.

00:02:50.960 Yes, I say yes.

00:02:52.220 I'm going to say that it's not that bad to get struck by lightning.

00:02:56.800 Oh, no.

00:02:57.460 No, that's the other one.

00:02:58.420 There we go.

00:02:59.360 I'm dyslexic, okay?

00:03:00.920 Our producers are basically illiterate, so don't worry about it.

00:03:03.760 So we answered the same.

00:03:06.400 I don't have any experience being struck by lightning.

00:03:09.460 Okay.

00:03:10.580 He does.

00:03:11.060 Obviously, I do.

00:03:12.580 Okay.

00:03:13.820 So I think that you would think that it hurts pretty bad, and you would be right.

00:03:20.080 Yes.

00:03:20.440 So I answered that correctly.

00:03:21.480 You did answer it correctly.

00:03:22.320 But first, I flipped it around.

00:03:23.800 It's a lot.

00:03:24.800 Okay.

00:03:25.640 What does it feel like?

00:03:32.140 You're serious, right?

00:03:33.440 Are you?

00:03:34.980 It's hard.

00:03:41.020 I got lit up like a Christmas tree, pal.

00:03:43.900 So this was during the filming of The Passion?

00:03:45.560 Yes, I did.

00:03:47.000 What were you doing?

00:03:48.920 Were you on the cross?

00:03:50.840 Were you?

00:03:51.180 No.

00:03:51.620 No.

00:03:52.080 I was on the last shot of the movie.

00:03:56.000 I went up the hillside.

00:03:58.280 There's about 300 people in location.

00:04:00.780 You know, it was the Sermon on the Mount.

00:04:04.220 I got to the top.

00:04:06.440 And on the fifth take, it was really blowing really hard.

00:04:12.820 And it looked like the clouds were so low, you could reach up and touch them.

00:04:17.220 And so that felt like this is something really wrong here.

00:04:21.580 And the ground felt like it was reverberating or something.

00:04:26.240 And then on the fifth take, about three seconds before I got hit, I looked down and I saw two

00:04:33.840 people and their eyes were watering because it felt like, and the other thing is you're

00:04:40.200 in like an eye of a storm.

00:04:41.440 The wind is blowing, you can't hear it.

00:04:45.120 And then this just like pulls your hair up and came down.

00:04:50.880 And it was like an implosion of your head and an explosion of your head.

00:04:56.100 But the first thing I felt was like an implosion.

00:04:59.700 I shot out my body.

00:05:01.420 I saw my back and I came back.

00:05:03.660 And then John McElhinney comes over.

00:05:07.460 I've never said this publicly.

00:05:10.100 So he comes over and he says, are you okay?

00:05:12.600 And he's kind of, now at this point, he had a lightning rod.

00:05:16.780 He essentially had a umbrella and I saw his hand blow up.

00:05:23.040 And I went down.

00:05:24.480 They took me out.

00:05:25.480 And then in 2000, I was on lots of medication from 2002.

00:05:33.660 Until 2009, when I had my first heart surgery by Dr. Patrawaal in Stanford.

00:05:40.520 And then my second major heart surgery was Dr. Griffin and Dr. Gilanoff.

00:05:45.560 They saved my life at Cleveland Clinic.

00:05:50.180 Then that was from?

00:05:52.140 It was all from that, yeah.

00:05:53.640 And then they completely cured me and I've never had any problem since.

00:05:59.480 But it was, for those, you know, 12 years, tough.

00:06:04.020 So I had heard the stories, you know, that you were struck by lightning on the set.

00:06:08.800 But I thought it was just a, like, little zap.

00:06:10.580 Oh, you know, ouch, that hurts.

00:06:12.100 I didn't, you're talking years of.

00:06:14.300 Yeah.

00:06:15.580 Yeah.

00:06:16.020 Whoa.

00:06:16.400 So I have, you know, I get up, I was always on, you know, blood thinners, Coumadin, and

00:06:24.320 stuff to keep the heart corrected from, you know.

00:06:28.340 And the 2009, they seemed to fix it and then it just all got worse in 14.

00:06:34.480 So, but, you know, I'm still here.

00:06:38.160 You're still here.

00:06:39.220 You know, of any kind of spiritual warfare really kicking in, I know both of you gentlemen

00:06:44.900 are quite aware of that phenomenon.

00:06:46.900 Yeah.

00:06:47.880 Final shot of the Passion of the Christ would probably be a place where those sorts of things 0.97

00:06:53.340 come together in the providential scope.

00:06:55.880 Yeah.

00:06:56.740 Wow.

00:06:57.440 The line in the scriptures when Jesus said, I saw Satan come down like lightning.

00:07:02.520 And I knew we were going to have a huge hit from that point.

00:07:07.720 It was like calling an airstrike in on yourself.

00:07:10.380 And I said, well, you know, there's a lot of people that are going to have a coming to

00:07:16.440 Jesus moment and millions did and millions more will keep coming. 0.51

00:07:21.080 So it's an annuity of the highest level.

00:07:25.860 You know, when I die, they'll just keep coming.

00:07:28.520 And, you know, it is a cross.

00:07:35.540 But when Mel and I do The Resurrection, well, that one is going to be a game changer like

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00:08:59.020 So now you read your question.

00:09:03.300 There's no way I'm going to have an answer nearly as good as that one.

00:09:05.240 But you read this question and we do it again.

00:09:08.480 What does that say?

00:09:09.300 He's blind.

00:09:09.960 I'm his interpreter.

00:09:11.060 You agree.

00:09:12.340 It's just a coincidence that many elites in Hollywood and big tech are also some of the

00:09:17.120 harshest critics of the Sound of Freedom movie.

00:09:20.160 Oh, wow.

00:09:20.560 That's a loaded question for you.

00:09:22.880 Go for it.

00:09:23.460 Go.

00:09:23.600 So he's saying it's just a coincidence.

00:09:26.700 It's just a coincidence.

00:09:28.040 Yeah.

00:09:28.440 Okay.

00:09:28.800 So I'll answer as I think Jim and Tim in this case would answer.

00:09:37.220 Are you going to answer this one?

00:09:38.400 No, you're not.

00:09:38.860 You've got to move my class to how you think I would answer.

00:09:42.440 Does Michael think it's a coincidence?

00:09:45.240 I'm just thinking about it for a second.

00:09:47.000 I don't think he thinks it's a coincidence.

00:09:51.380 Don't give me the answer.

00:09:52.400 It's cheating.

00:09:55.540 It's cheating.

00:09:56.060 I want the judges to note that.

00:09:57.120 I cheated.

00:09:58.300 Of course.

00:10:01.260 Correct.

00:10:02.340 I assume I guessed correctly for you as well, Jim.

00:10:08.540 Yes.

00:10:09.620 That's correct.

00:10:11.220 I don't really believe in coincidences.

00:10:14.860 Neither do I.

00:10:16.700 Now, usually the rule is you drink when you get a question wrong, but I feel we're going

00:10:20.960 to be getting too many rights, so I'm just going to say I don't have to drink.

00:10:24.680 I think I get to drink.

00:10:25.780 Oh, my gosh.

00:10:26.640 That's actual.

00:10:28.100 I thought that was like water.

00:10:29.980 That's a delicious martini.

00:10:31.880 Can I offer you?

00:10:33.360 Listen, it's just here if you want to sit.

00:10:35.600 You gentlemen are being much more responsible for an afternoon.

00:10:37.800 No, you got the Mormon over here. 0.75

00:10:39.860 Of course you put the Catholic in here.

00:10:41.480 I don't have a sip.

00:10:43.260 Wait.

00:10:43.620 Is this Grey Goose?

00:10:46.480 That is gin.

00:10:48.040 It's boodles.

00:10:49.500 Oh.

00:10:50.400 Great kind of esoteric gin, but made to our specification by the producer team.

00:10:57.480 Okay, so now I go.

00:11:00.920 Jim's still focused on this.

00:11:02.000 Well, no, because...

00:11:02.820 All right, so we'll put that card over here.

00:11:04.000 He has something to say about this.

00:11:05.380 Yeah, yeah.

00:11:10.100 Sound of Freedom was tied up for five years, bro.

00:11:12.780 Why?

00:11:14.640 Who owned it?

00:11:15.360 Put this one over here. 0.75

00:11:16.800 Well, we had Fox, and then Disney bought it.

00:11:20.200 And I'll tell you, when I did The Count of Monte Cristo, I agreed to do the movie, and

00:11:31.840 then when we came to Ireland, they completely rewrote the script, and they had no say in

00:11:36.800 doing that because in my contract it said two parts.

00:11:40.320 One, the director, Kevin Reynolds, that I'm a part of the process, and you can't rewrite

00:11:46.160 my stuff without my say-so, and they rewrote it.

00:11:48.580 And the part in the movie that was taken out was, when they rewrote it, was they removed

00:11:54.440 all of God out of the movie.

00:11:57.820 And so it wasn't God will give me justice.

00:12:00.980 Have you, by chance...

00:12:01.700 I love the movie.

00:12:02.560 Yeah, I love the movie.

00:12:04.420 I mean, so the Disney executive that was there was, you know, this is...

00:12:11.600 I said, why was that taken out of the movie?

00:12:13.740 And he says, so, oh, like, are you one of those?

00:12:16.180 And I said, one of those what?

00:12:17.240 One of those who rewrite Alexander de Ma, that rewrites Shakespeare, because that's

00:12:22.800 exactly what you did.

00:12:24.340 You've got to put that back in.

00:12:26.400 I don't know if it was like when the Count is in the...

00:12:29.240 Or Edmund is in the prison, it was like some humanism, you know, find it in yourself, or

00:12:35.780 whatever it was.

00:12:36.680 New age nonsense.

00:12:38.100 Whatever.

00:12:38.540 But, you know, his Americans are one nation under God.

00:12:43.180 We believe that.

00:12:44.360 And many of us would die for it.

00:12:47.820 And I certainly wouldn't.

00:12:49.660 I gave my career believing that.

00:12:52.720 I was so profoundly moved by the Ten Commandments by Charlton Heston.

00:12:57.400 I was so profoundly moved by Jimmy Stewart in It's a Wonderful Life when he's in the bar

00:13:02.160 and he says, you know, God, if you're out there, please help me, because I've been there.

00:13:05.380 And now here I have an opportunity to express that in this film.

00:13:10.320 It has to be there.

00:13:12.540 And then Charlton Heston, of course, in Ben-Hur in 1959.

00:13:16.520 So the industry has gone away, way, way, way to a point where...

00:13:21.820 And I'll have this conversation with any of them.

00:13:24.820 Why do you think your films are not producing?

00:13:27.940 You do not speak for the people any longer.

00:13:30.740 Right.

00:13:31.400 And Sound of Freedom does.

00:13:34.560 Sound of Freedom is from your heart.

00:13:36.260 Yeah.

00:13:36.400 Sound of Freedom is something that burns inside you and you can't put it out, you see.

00:13:43.660 And when I came back and I heard those children screaming, my first part was like, I got to

00:13:50.220 find a place in this movie where maybe I can take the eye and do something to where I take

00:13:56.240 you to the edge.

00:13:57.020 I can't show you what's happening to this little girl with this man, but I can take you

00:14:02.280 into my iris and it takes you to the edge of your seat.

00:14:05.520 It's Hitchcock.

00:14:06.300 Yeah.

00:14:06.680 And then you get to understand what burns in this man's heart every day.

00:14:11.260 And it's a hard life.

00:14:13.420 It's a big cross, but it's a purpose.

00:14:16.520 And so when I was a young man and I was going to movies and I felt like, you know, God, are

00:14:24.380 you out there?

00:14:25.180 When I was at the lowest point in my life that I screamed out at 14, you know, I don't want

00:14:31.620 to live anymore.

00:14:32.340 That's five times worse now.

00:14:33.840 And I go and talk to those kids and I say, as bad as it seems, I want to tell you my

00:14:40.100 story.

00:14:40.460 And I tell them and I said, how did I take in my own life?

00:14:43.700 Can you imagine our loving God as a 14 year old and said, look what I was going to do for

00:14:51.300 you?

00:14:51.640 Look, you were going to play my son, you know?

00:14:54.680 So this is a game of life, but it's a profound, profound game that we're in right now.

00:15:03.400 And it's all about what we do for him because at the end is the only thing that matters.

00:15:09.460 And you can't take, and your Rolex says, oh, what's going on?

00:15:12.780 Oh, Jesus died.

00:15:14.020 So Jim Caviezel, his Rolex gets to go to heaven.

00:15:17.380 This is junk in heaven.

00:15:18.800 Not that I'm going to give it to you.

00:15:20.220 Yeah, yeah.

00:15:20.420 It's sort of nice to keep it on for now.

00:15:21.900 But listen, if the spirit does move you, Jim, and you want to get rid of it, just

00:15:26.160 let me, I'm right here.

00:15:27.120 So it's okay.

00:15:28.720 No, it's, you know, on the question, is it just a coincidence that the powers and the

00:15:33.380 principalities and the spiritual wickedness in high places of this world always wants

00:15:37.560 to push God out of all of it?

00:15:39.420 And then you refuse to do it and it's no, I mean, we're talking about some of your

00:15:42.260 movies now.

00:15:44.160 Your movies are all excellent and they're all excellent.

00:15:46.780 They all resonate with people in a way that other movies, also with big actors and big

00:15:51.000 scripts and in a way that they don't.

00:15:52.680 And why is that?

00:15:54.440 Because there's something in your movies that are not in the movies offered by the

00:16:00.140 principalities and the powers.

00:16:03.160 To which point, currently, the CIA does more harm than good.

00:16:12.400 We got any open windows in the studio right now?

00:16:14.620 I want to answer this question.

00:16:16.220 What are you doing?

00:16:16.660 You're shutting us up.

00:16:17.340 Currently, the CIA does more harm than good.

00:16:28.840 Now, you're thinking what I'm thinking, right?

00:16:31.640 That's what that was?

00:16:32.800 Yeah.

00:16:33.060 Okay.

00:16:33.360 Now, I just want to go over this again.

00:16:35.160 So that's what you think I'd say.

00:16:36.740 That's what I think.

00:16:37.320 Now, I got it.

00:16:38.020 Now, I got to think what you say.

00:16:39.780 Do we need to verbally confirm that we are obviously correct in our guesses here?

00:16:47.940 Or can we kind of like let this lie?

00:16:51.360 You know what I think?

00:16:53.840 I believe that if they think you're afraid, then you're in trouble.

00:16:59.740 I look at it this way.

00:17:01.620 Like, unlike you, I know I'm going to die someday.

00:17:08.060 Whereas me, I've got at least another two centuries.

00:17:11.440 How am I going to die?

00:17:14.160 You say, well, you know, I've seen a lot of old people die in nursing homes the worst way.

00:17:20.180 You know why?

00:17:20.540 They're alone.

00:17:21.440 Yeah.

00:17:21.760 Because their families abandon them.

00:17:23.080 You know why they abandon them?

00:17:24.320 They're afraid of the cross.

00:17:25.560 They're afraid.

00:17:28.840 And guess what?

00:17:29.540 The person that's suffering the most, they don't even see that pain.

00:17:33.440 They don't care.

00:17:34.560 They just worry about themselves.

00:17:36.620 Whenever we get in a position where we're worried about our own skin, we're in trouble.

00:17:42.020 And Jesus talks about, fear not the people that can kill you, your flesh.

00:17:48.040 It's the second one.

00:17:50.140 That's the one that you've got to be concerned about the most.

00:17:53.240 So we're all getting out of this dead.

00:17:55.020 Right, right.

00:17:56.360 You're going to hear the body and soul going to Gehenna.

00:17:59.800 That's the bigger.

00:18:00.720 Yeah, that's why you've got to have a nice drink, baby.

00:18:04.400 Then we get Christopher Walken on the show today.

00:18:07.120 This is a big win.

00:18:08.660 I love this.

00:18:10.980 At the end of the show, I've got to have a bite of that olive.

00:18:15.220 Not only drinks, but appetizers, too.

00:18:17.760 You're up.

00:18:18.820 Mm-hmm.

00:18:19.340 In the sound of freedom, the only part of Jim Caviezel's performance that could have been improved was his lack of muscle tone.

00:18:32.580 Why do I have to read this right now?

00:18:34.620 To better reflect the person he was playing.

00:18:37.000 I mean, many people have said this.

00:18:40.060 Many said this.

00:18:40.460 Including Michael Mills backstage just about 10 years ago.

00:18:43.740 So now I've got to answer.

00:18:45.920 Is there a Jim with to answer here?

00:18:52.660 I'll put this guy over here. 0.80

00:18:54.400 You've got to answer how it is.

00:18:55.700 You're so humble, sir.

00:19:03.540 Yes, because you know.

00:19:07.040 Now listen, not everybody can be 300% muscle like the Discovery.

00:19:13.620 But yes, because you know that every other aspect of the performance was perfect.

00:19:19.620 How's that?

00:19:20.680 I took that insult from the producers, turned it into a compliment.

00:19:23.240 You turned it right on.

00:19:23.780 I like that.

00:19:24.420 And a sincere compliment.

00:19:25.100 And I know, honestly, I talked to him about this.

00:19:27.440 I said, Jim, can you do steroid something?

00:19:30.400 Can you do something?

00:19:34.880 When I was younger, I was prettier.

00:19:38.760 At least you had a, you know, I was a big man.

00:19:42.000 Me, I have not.

00:19:43.280 But you know what?

00:19:44.600 Basketball, I was working out with this guy.

00:19:47.520 And he had huge, you know, beautiful legs and everything.

00:19:50.800 Come on! 0.61

00:19:51.760 Big, strong guy.

00:19:52.960 And he put on the weight on the squat rack.

00:19:55.100 And I said, that's all you're going to put on for me?

00:19:57.320 Because that's, I mean, I said, oh, go ahead.

00:20:01.660 Rack him up.

00:20:02.840 And I put this guy right into the ground.

00:20:05.320 Really?

00:20:05.760 I don't look as pretty.

00:20:06.900 But strength is a good, is there.

00:20:14.460 I'm not trying to go up against you in a joke.

00:20:16.220 I am not.

00:20:17.360 I don't.

00:20:17.960 I got to have a sip.

00:20:18.660 You got to have a sip.

00:20:20.040 It is okay.

00:20:21.400 Yeah.

00:20:21.860 It's just to dull the pain.

00:20:24.100 Okay.

00:20:25.040 The reason that this gets to the point of the movie.

00:20:29.120 The reason the exploitation of children is so pervasive, while also actively ignored,

00:20:33.640 is that it's satanic and spiritual in nature.

00:20:36.440 Yeah, I'll just leave the cup right there.

00:20:39.720 I'm sorry.

00:20:40.440 What was the statement again?

00:20:41.560 The reason the exploitation of children is so pervasive, while also actively ignored,

00:20:46.880 is that it is satanic and spiritual in nature.

00:20:49.020 Let me just help you.

00:20:49.720 Yeah, it is really.

00:20:50.700 This is way too easy.

00:20:52.020 Yeah.

00:20:52.820 Of course.

00:20:54.700 It's been true since the dawn of time. 0.92

00:20:56.700 Amen.

00:20:58.080 I think I'll drink to that.

00:20:59.380 You can drink to that.

00:21:00.720 I'll have a sip after you have a sip.

00:21:02.520 You're up.

00:21:03.400 All right.

00:21:03.960 Just so you know, Jim, you're supposed to be drinking out of your cup.

00:21:06.000 Yeah, that one's not as...

00:21:07.000 I think you're the first guest ever in the Michael Nellis show that's drinking out of his cup.

00:21:10.200 I actually kind of like it.

00:21:11.240 It's a nice...

00:21:11.920 It's a big martini.

00:21:13.200 We'll get a refill.

00:21:14.220 Once you get up here, we'll get a refill.

00:21:15.400 Did you put vodka in the coffee?

00:21:18.240 Oh, my God.

00:21:20.820 All right.

00:21:22.640 ChatGPT is basically the beta version of Samaritan from Person of Interest.

00:21:28.940 I don't know what ChatGPT is.

00:21:31.100 Well, I'll tell you.

00:21:31.740 Person of Interest is the TV show that you started.

00:21:33.500 No, I know.

00:21:34.680 What's ChatGPT?

00:21:35.660 Oh, it's, you know, you...

00:21:37.020 It's like AI.

00:21:38.060 They can, like...

00:21:38.560 Like in China with the... 0.99

00:21:39.960 Yeah.

00:21:40.200 Come on.

00:21:40.500 You put an idea in, they write it for you.

00:21:42.440 Yeah.

00:21:43.320 Yeah.

00:21:44.560 Yeah.

00:21:47.160 Well, I think I just got the answer then.

00:21:50.660 Yeah, I think I'm going to defer to the star of Person of Interest on that.

00:21:54.540 You know, it's interesting.

00:21:56.500 When we were working on that show, Jonah Nolan came over to me, and he said, I want to introduce

00:22:03.120 you to my friend.

00:22:04.060 And he comes over, and I said, ah, and he looked familiar.

00:22:08.600 And I said, hey, this guy, he's an actor.

00:22:11.380 I know.

00:22:11.920 I know.

00:22:12.160 I know.

00:22:12.500 I'm trying to remember what film he's in.

00:22:14.240 And so I said, I can't...

00:22:17.420 I'm so nice to me.

00:22:18.680 I know you've done some great films and everything, or I'm so sorry.

00:22:23.920 I just can't place you.

00:22:25.240 And it's a TV show or something that I've seen yet.

00:22:28.740 He goes, my name is Elon Musk.

00:22:32.920 And Elon was embarrassed for me.

00:22:35.200 But what show were you on, Elon?

00:22:36.820 Yeah, I don't remember.

00:22:37.200 He was on 60 Minutes the night before.

00:22:39.860 By the way, did you see?

00:22:40.920 This is important.

00:22:41.600 I'm glad you brought this up.

00:22:42.260 Elon Musk tweeted about Sound of Freedom.

00:22:44.380 Did he?

00:22:44.680 A week ago?

00:22:45.320 Yeah.

00:22:45.860 Amazing.

00:22:46.420 And he said he's going to provide...

00:22:47.880 Twitter's going to be a free platform for Sound of Freedom, I think, mid-July.

00:22:51.460 He's going to open it up for free and distribute it worldwide.

00:22:54.260 I was...

00:22:54.860 Whatever reticence or skepticism I'd had early on of Elon, Elon gets it.

00:23:01.600 Elon gets it.

00:23:02.680 You know, he...

00:23:04.600 All the other big tech guys shutting everything down.

00:23:07.100 But Elon gets it.

00:23:08.520 All right, I'm up.

00:23:09.720 The Great Pyramid of Giza was built by primitive Egyptians who used wet sand to move 2.3 million 1.00

00:23:14.800 perfectly cut blocks, averaging 2.3 tons each from quarries up to 500 miles away in a span

00:23:20.400 of about 20 years.

00:23:24.080 In other words, the official scientific story of the Great Pyramid of Giza is the whole story.

00:23:30.580 Well, I thought that was part...

00:23:32.560 Okay.

00:23:33.380 So isn't there a mystery about the eight wonders of the world?

00:23:36.940 Yeah, I think so.

00:23:38.080 Which means...

00:23:39.940 Now I got your...

00:23:41.760 See, now, this is the thing.

00:23:43.860 Jim kind of tips his hand, you know, a little bit on...

00:23:46.140 Yeah.

00:23:46.420 A little bit on the...

00:23:47.240 But, yeah, I think there's a little bit more to the story than just...

00:23:50.680 My brain works like...

00:23:53.360 It puts a square peg into a circular hole.

00:23:57.040 Oh, we...

00:23:57.500 I figure out the...

00:23:58.900 But the SAT, not very good.

00:24:01.840 It's just...

00:24:02.280 Not going to work.

00:24:03.900 All right, you're up.

00:24:06.000 All right.

00:24:07.600 I don't have my glasses here.

00:24:09.180 All right.

00:24:09.720 In general, it's more difficult to be a practicing Christian in Hollywood than it is to make it

00:24:15.940 in Hollywood.

00:24:16.540 To be a practicing Christian at...

00:24:21.220 Well, okay.

00:24:21.880 Oh, there's some ambiguity.

00:24:22.820 I'll just answer how I interpret the question and then get my thoughts.

00:24:27.060 Yes, yes, because I'm not just interpreting that as you make it in Hollywood and then you're

00:24:39.520 a practicing Christian.

00:24:40.480 I mean, just to be a Christian living in Hollywood at any level, anywhere on the totem pole or

00:24:46.100 in the industry, it is such a seductive place and there is so much titillation everywhere.

00:24:54.100 I mean, we call it Gamora by the sea, that it is to keep your faith in that at any level

00:25:02.080 can be very difficult.

00:25:04.340 So I'm going to quote Mel Gibson on this.

00:25:07.060 Jim, from his experience, he says, it's a lot easier not to eat from the apple tree if

00:25:13.760 you're not standing in front of it.

00:25:16.800 You got to keep moving.

00:25:18.060 And faith is, it's that way, but you got to, every morning I got up at 5.30 when I

00:25:27.560 was trying to make it and I was in mass at 6.30 in the morning.

00:25:32.580 That's part of it.

00:25:33.400 You have to have, you have to work on the spirit.

00:25:36.660 The spirit is going to move the mental and the physical.

00:25:40.080 Most actors just do the mental and physical.

00:25:42.100 And then the other ones, if they have a spiritual thing, it allows them to do whatever they

00:25:46.840 want.

00:25:47.320 Right.

00:25:48.080 So ours has got 10 commandments.

00:25:50.140 There's rules and they're there to protect you.

00:25:53.940 Do unto others as you want them to do unto you.

00:25:56.460 So my mindset is always, how would that feel if someone did that to you?

00:26:01.280 You know?

00:26:02.040 And at the end of the day, if you're not going to be happy after you commit that sin, it

00:26:09.160 is sin and you'd have to define it because then you don't have rules and you're not going

00:26:15.740 to be, yeah, it's success you'll never enjoy because you have to have, um, one of the gifts

00:26:26.300 of the Holy Spirit is gratitude and appreciation, right?

00:26:31.560 Jesus talks about the salt, what it's worth.

00:26:34.800 As soon as you lose the Holy Spirit, you will not be grateful and you will not be appreciative.

00:26:42.180 Someone could give you a Ferrari three days, you'll be like, you know, and there's more

00:26:46.440 junk I got to take care of, you know?

00:26:48.880 There was a Hollywood actor who just wrote a memoir.

00:26:50.740 This is a guy who, I won't say his name, not to detract, but he, it's all public anyway,

00:26:54.920 I guess.

00:26:55.820 Big sitcom star, had everything this guy ever wanted.

00:26:58.880 He got every hot girl, every dollar he ever wanted, every bit of fame he ever wanted.

00:27:03.900 And the whole time he was miserable because of that, because there was no sense of what

00:27:09.580 it was for.

00:27:10.660 So it was just, you know, it was as Shaw, Bernard Shaw said that hell is the place where you

00:27:14.880 have nothing to do but amuse yourself.

00:27:16.500 Yes.

00:27:17.580 You know, um, along the way in this business, you're going to have war injuries, okay?

00:27:25.080 When you're younger, you get up, you train, you, you know, have a great physical, it's

00:27:31.440 easy to stay in shape in those days.

00:27:33.340 And then eventually, um, in the passion or in GI Jane, I, I severed my left pec.

00:27:39.560 So then I lost my shoulder and I had to put the shoulder back in and it ripped out again

00:27:45.900 and, and then lower back to where, you know, popped the disc.

00:27:50.760 So as the time goes on in the business, though, how you, your physique and everything changes,

00:27:58.520 it starts to, it wasn't the way you used to have it and the bicep is ripped, the ankle's

00:28:05.860 got a plate in it, I've got it, you know, steel in my, uh, leg and all that, but I keep

00:28:12.480 fighting back.

00:28:13.700 I keep, my scars, I've earned them, you know?

00:28:16.320 And, um, and so the, the, the body, it doesn't matter.

00:28:22.420 It, it, you know, at some point you'll have nothing if what's inside here is corrupt, even

00:28:28.920 if your body's perfect, this is all that matters.

00:28:33.180 And then from this, it, you know, I just have to work through all of, of the things.

00:28:39.500 It's, it's humility.

00:28:40.580 Mother Teresa, would she say, um, to become humble, you have to experience humiliation.

00:28:46.320 He, so.

00:28:48.260 We're not, we don't usually look forward to it, but it can be very, but it's a weapon

00:28:52.020 against the devil, though.

00:28:53.180 Yeah.

00:28:53.720 Yeah.

00:28:54.080 You know?

00:28:55.120 Yeah.

00:28:56.320 I'm not the best I was, but I'm still pretty good.

00:29:00.680 And someday you'll get a new body anyway.

00:29:02.580 You get a glorified body anyway.

00:29:03.900 Yeah, amen.

00:29:04.780 Okay, so, here we go.

00:29:06.360 Last question for you, and then we go to Tim.

00:29:08.020 Sure.

00:29:08.900 In America today, the difference between most conspiracy theories and facts is about six to nine months.

00:29:16.320 I'm leaving your cup there.

00:29:18.060 I'm leaving your cup there for the whole game.

00:29:20.660 Difference between a conspiracy theory and facts, six to nine months.

00:29:25.680 If my answer were no, it's only because I'd say it's three to six months.

00:29:28.940 I think it's, let me tell you what I think.

00:29:35.420 Yeah.

00:29:35.780 Okay.

00:29:36.240 I think it used to be that.

00:29:37.740 It's way less than that.

00:29:39.240 It is.

00:29:40.000 It's like, it's a month now.

00:29:42.060 So.

00:29:42.920 I refresh my Twitter feed.

00:29:44.960 It's there.

00:29:45.980 You're right.

00:29:46.440 Okay.

00:29:46.840 I got a drink for that then.

00:29:48.280 Technically, I got it wrong.

00:29:51.040 All right.

00:29:51.500 Last question for me.

00:29:52.420 Unfortunately, the next cause that will be pushed by progressives will likely be for minor attracted persons' rights.

00:30:05.580 The next cause.

00:30:06.780 We'll put this one over here.

00:30:10.240 The next cause.

00:30:15.120 You know, I never want to be hyperbolic about it, but I'm going to put that on a, well, what is Jim going to say?

00:30:20.300 I'm going to, I'm going to say yes.

00:30:24.200 And then I, I think yours is.

00:30:28.940 This is another trick.

00:30:31.220 I'm going to have to move this one to the yes.

00:30:34.180 Because, look, I don't want to be hyperbolic about it.

00:30:36.340 I don't want to, you know, jump straight to these guys are going to normalize pedophilia.

00:30:40.880 It is already happening.

00:30:42.000 It's already happening.

00:30:42.440 That's my answer.

00:30:43.360 I thought that was, look, it said it's going to happen.

00:30:45.960 The answer is it's already happened.

00:30:47.080 It's not the next one.

00:30:47.620 It's the current one.

00:30:48.240 It's already happened.

00:30:49.000 Okay.

00:30:49.240 You know what?

00:30:49.920 If you live in California right now, it's already happened.

00:30:52.020 It's already happened.

00:30:52.680 It's already happened.

00:30:53.620 I got to drink then.

00:30:54.920 I get to drink.

00:30:57.880 Let me give you some mercy. 0.97

00:30:59.400 Thank you.

00:31:00.020 I very appreciate the moral and liquid support.

00:31:05.180 Jim, I think you may have beaten me on that.

00:31:07.200 But now we swap you out for Tim.

00:31:10.040 All right, Tim.

00:31:12.680 Here we go.

00:31:13.480 All right, now I get my Mormon Coke over here. 0.60

00:31:14.940 Okay, we got three right there.

00:31:16.320 Now we're ready to go.

00:31:17.640 I'm going to have to keep passing my martini to Jim across the side.

00:31:21.700 Dealing with the powers of Hollywood is similar to dealing with cartels in other countries.

00:31:30.520 Yes.

00:31:31.420 Yep.

00:31:32.220 It is, huh?

00:31:32.840 Absolutely.

00:31:33.220 I only have experience with one of those things.

00:31:35.980 So I do with both because...

00:31:38.220 And you have both.

00:31:39.000 Yeah.

00:31:39.240 So after we did the big operation that's depicted in Sound of Freedom, it's October 11, 2014,

00:31:43.900 the largest rescue operation probably recorded in history.

00:31:47.100 It's depicted in the film in Columbia.

00:31:48.780 And CBS News played it.

00:31:51.460 Scott Pelley did the story on it.

00:31:52.760 And Hollywood started reaching out to me, which unexpectedly, like, hey, this sounds

00:31:56.500 like a movie.

00:31:57.360 And my wife and I are looking at each other like, what is going on?

00:32:00.200 Because we're in business because of these guys.

00:32:03.720 I mean, these guys are creating the content that creates the sex addiction, that creates

00:32:08.660 the demand, which is why this is even happening.

00:32:11.640 You've got to want to have sex with kids or even adults who were once abused as children. 0.94

00:32:16.820 You have to want that first.

00:32:18.180 There has to be a demand for that.

00:32:19.260 And some fuel for that fire, which is coming out of porn in Hollywood.

00:32:23.880 Absolutely.

00:32:24.560 This is why it exists.

00:32:25.940 This is why 85,000 children unaccompanied showed up in the last two years and were let

00:32:29.840 into the country, into the biggest child sex market in the world.

00:32:32.580 People don't realize in the United States, we're the number one consumers of child sex material.

00:32:37.240 We're in the top three for destination countries.

00:32:39.320 Wow.

00:32:39.440 So I call it the economy of pedophilia.

00:32:42.520 So these 85,000 kids, where are they?

00:32:45.060 I'm telling you, a lot of them are being abused.

00:32:47.760 And so it was hard for me when Hollywood was screeching out because I'm like, the irony

00:32:51.720 of it.

00:32:52.400 That's why when they came to me, these producers seemed different.

00:32:55.020 I said, he has to play me.

00:32:56.600 He's the only person in Hollywood I will let play me because he loves Jesus and that we

00:33:01.320 can fight the spiritual warfare and still tell a story.

00:33:04.300 So that's why, yeah, absolutely right.

00:33:06.360 This business is the only business where you, we were just talking about this the other

00:33:10.460 day.

00:33:10.780 If you're a pedophile and you fail, you're going to go up.

00:33:17.400 Failing upward.

00:33:18.320 And the other thing I want to say, Michael, I was with Speaker McCarthy last week.

00:33:25.040 We were both were and several others.

00:33:26.200 And they were saying, what can we do about this border thing, all these kids?

00:33:28.960 And I said, you've got to attach it to the whole movement.

00:33:31.140 Yeah.

00:33:31.320 You can't just isolate it to one thing.

00:33:34.080 This whole minor attractive persons thing, the whole sexualizing of children, giving them

00:33:37.140 pornography in the name of sex education.

00:33:39.480 Yeah, at five years old.

00:33:40.280 Giving them 13-year-olds consent to gender mutilate is also giving them consent to have 0.99

00:33:45.000 sex with 50-year-olds.

00:33:46.000 You can't take it away.

00:33:47.480 You've got to combine it all and understand that there's spiritual warfare and children

00:33:51.360 for the first time in the history of America are at the crosshairs.

00:33:55.020 Now you can make an argument.

00:33:56.580 Right.

00:33:56.780 If you're saying a child can consent to a permanent sexual change based on a sexual desire, how

00:34:04.640 can you then argue that a much older minor can't consent to a one-night stand? 0.99

00:34:09.100 It's not possible.

00:34:09.620 You can't.

00:34:10.160 You've limited God, science, the very virtues that built this nation.

00:34:14.380 You've eliminated it all.

00:34:15.040 So mom and dad, you're getting social media hits and you're getting awards.

00:34:18.460 But when your kid comes to you and says, I want to have sex with a 50-year-old pedophile,

00:34:21.880 you've lost your arguments.

00:34:23.700 You've sold them away.

00:34:25.560 Right.

00:34:25.700 For popularity.

00:34:27.020 And this is the end of our republic.

00:34:28.960 I have a question for you.

00:34:30.500 Someone asked me to ask you this.

00:34:32.560 Is this the right time to do this?

00:34:34.680 We got it.

00:34:35.540 We got all the time.

00:34:35.860 It's the same part of it.

00:34:37.520 But does pornography lead to more pedophiles?

00:34:41.380 Absolutely it does.

00:34:42.420 Oh, I don't believe you.

00:34:43.420 What do you know?

00:34:44.160 I'm a fact checker.

00:34:45.500 I'll tell you why.

00:34:46.400 I'll tell you why it does.

00:34:47.700 I got my doctorate degree at fact checking school.

00:34:51.160 This is the reason.

00:34:52.180 Because pornography has the same chemical reaction to the brain as drugs.

00:34:56.780 So you do marijuana so much, the dopamine endorphin hit wears down like anything else.

00:35:02.520 So then you have to go to crack cocaine.

00:35:04.500 Well, in the porn industry, you're going to adult legal porn.

00:35:07.780 The same thing happens.

00:35:08.880 They want the dopamine.

00:35:10.080 It's wearing out.

00:35:11.060 They got to go to something more crazy.

00:35:13.840 Taboo.

00:35:14.420 And that's when they get into kids.

00:35:15.900 Wow.

00:35:16.300 That's why there's two million children currently in the commercial sex trade. 1.00

00:35:19.500 Because of the porn industry.

00:35:21.060 And Hollywood is fueling it.

00:35:22.340 So this is more than just trafficking.

00:35:24.340 We have to do other things in order to get rid of this.

00:35:26.740 We've got to attack the demand.

00:35:27.900 Which is educating the youth on the dangers of pornography.

00:35:31.820 Yep.

00:35:32.620 You're up.

00:35:33.540 All right.

00:35:33.820 Jim Caviezel looks better as a blonde. 1.00

00:35:43.840 Hmm.

00:35:45.980 Okay.

00:35:46.620 Well, you answer for me.

00:35:49.860 Oh.

00:35:50.840 You got that wrong, Tim.

00:35:52.900 I think the naturally darker features, I think, are...

00:35:57.120 Well, maybe that was a little arrogant of me.

00:35:59.640 But I guess...

00:36:01.640 I'll say this.

00:36:03.920 When I told the producers that I wanted Jim to play me, they said no.

00:36:07.740 They said, yeah, there's no better actor.

00:36:09.700 But at the end of the film, there's a little cool thing where they take real footage from the actual...

00:36:13.600 We filmed the real operation.

00:36:14.960 Yeah, yeah.

00:36:15.180 So there's this cool transitional kind of cool, like, into the real footage.

00:36:18.500 And they said...

00:36:18.620 I should say, I realize I haven't quite said this yet.

00:36:20.780 The movie is excellent.

00:36:22.080 I mean, the movie is just...

00:36:23.880 The acting is superb, of course.

00:36:25.300 Don't tell us.

00:36:25.760 Tell them.

00:36:26.240 Yeah.

00:36:26.580 The movie is...

00:36:27.680 It's just...

00:36:28.260 No, it's superb.

00:36:29.480 And it's just shot beautifully.

00:36:30.860 And you're handling a very difficult subject with such delicacy in a way that is so...

00:36:35.460 You know, you can't look away.

00:36:37.220 I mean, you're just watching these scenes.

00:36:38.640 And it's just...

00:36:39.440 It's a phenomenon.

00:36:40.600 A lot of times...

00:36:41.480 I hate to tell on conservative media.

00:36:43.900 A lot of times we hawk movies that aren't that good.

00:36:45.860 And because, you know, we like the cause and we like the mission.

00:36:48.540 This movie is just superb in every way.

00:36:51.100 Yeah, the storytellers here on Alejandro Monteverde, Jim, and the others.

00:36:56.100 But that was their one hang-up, is when we do the transition into the real footage...

00:37:00.180 Your hair changes.

00:37:00.620 You guys are...

00:37:01.180 I mean, this is Todd, Belkin, Handsome.

00:37:02.420 This is short, stocky, and gringo-ish, whatever. 1.00

00:37:04.700 And they couldn't reconcile it.

00:37:06.740 And I said, I don't care because he loves Jesus.

00:37:08.280 I can't have someone who doesn't.

00:37:09.980 So that's why I probably went to hoping it was a yes, just because I think they did a decent job.

00:37:15.260 They did.

00:37:15.720 Oh, of course.

00:37:16.140 It wasn't...

00:37:16.640 I mean, we look nothing like each other, but in the film, it's okay.

00:37:20.020 I'll tell you, until...

00:37:21.080 Until it occurred to me in this question, it didn't even occur to me.

00:37:25.880 The hair color thing or like any...

00:37:28.420 It didn't even...

00:37:29.440 I don't know.

00:37:29.900 Maybe it's just because the character, well, which is your life, the character is so engrossing.

00:37:35.380 It doesn't even strike you that people look different.

00:37:37.760 He has a childlike quality that is like David when Goliath was insulting his God.

00:37:47.580 And it didn't matter if he lived.

00:37:50.460 It's just that you can't insult my God like that.

00:37:53.300 And I feel the same way.

00:37:54.820 And so when Jesus came, I wanted to show the world that I loved him.

00:37:59.200 And I wanted the world to know that we got to start telling God we love him.

00:38:04.140 Can I add that?

00:38:06.260 Add something to that?

00:38:07.500 So this is a really cool story.

00:38:08.860 This is maybe my most...

00:38:10.480 My favorite story, the behind-the-scenes of Sound of Freedom.

00:38:13.680 And I don't even know if you know this, but there's one scripture that I go to.

00:38:17.400 If I'm going into the dark...

00:38:18.320 I'm scared.

00:38:18.980 People...

00:38:19.200 You watch the film.

00:38:19.780 You think I'm brave.

00:38:20.420 I'm not.

00:38:21.140 I'm as scared as anybody.

00:38:22.740 But I'm scared before, and I'm freaking out.

00:38:24.900 I can't watch the movie.

00:38:26.520 But I'm not scared during it.

00:38:30.260 I'm not scared while I'm there.

00:38:31.840 It's like there's a calm.

00:38:32.780 And the reason...

00:38:33.340 And there's one scripture I just repeat over and over in my head when I'm going into dark places.

00:38:37.140 And it's the one time in the scripture where Jesus gets mafioso in his wording.

00:38:42.000 And it's Jesus, so it's okay.

00:38:43.340 It's not flipping tables at the temple, though.

00:38:45.580 He says something that I think we just kind of go...

00:38:48.080 We kind of blush by it, and I'll think about it.

00:38:50.680 Think about what he says.

00:38:51.660 He says, it's better that a millstone be wrapped around your neck and you're thrown to the bottom of the sea.

00:38:57.720 That's like cement shoes kind of stuff, right?

00:39:00.180 Than that you should hurt one of these children.

00:39:01.560 So you actually say that?

00:39:03.640 Because it's in the movie.

00:39:05.160 You say it when you're talking to him.

00:39:06.220 But he ad-libbed it.

00:39:07.600 Really?

00:39:08.180 So that was not in the script.

00:39:10.360 And I didn't tell him that that's my go-to.

00:39:12.360 So that's my favorite scene.

00:39:13.300 That coffee shop where he's...

00:39:14.280 Yeah, yeah.

00:39:14.560 And that's a real scene.

00:39:15.560 Coffee shop.

00:39:16.260 That book.

00:39:17.060 I have the real book.

00:39:17.800 You know?

00:39:18.320 And Jim pulls that line out of his, you know, ear.

00:39:23.980 But he pulls that line out, and it's really complex and creative how he does it.

00:39:28.280 Yeah, yeah.

00:39:28.700 Because even the pedophile, even the actor...

00:39:30.920 Because it's seamless in the dialogue.

00:39:31.940 He's like, what are you doing?

00:39:33.040 Like, what does that mean?

00:39:34.240 And I'm just like, oh my gosh.

00:39:35.740 I'm sobbing and listening to him do this.

00:39:37.400 He's like, he has no idea.

00:39:38.220 That's why I do everything I do.

00:39:39.860 Because I can go into dark places, because Jesus made it clear where he stands.

00:39:45.180 He is so passionate about children not being abused, that he's telling you a warning that

00:39:51.160 sounds like the mafia.

00:39:53.380 I love it.

00:39:54.580 Jesus did that many a times.

00:39:57.740 And obviously, the big grand ballroom was the temple, when he threw them out for what they

00:40:04.480 did to his father, you know?

00:40:06.340 And that he makes it known to us that it's okay to defend our God.

00:40:11.700 And you see what's happening in the culture of grooming our children.

00:40:16.000 Uh-uh.

00:40:16.380 That is not going to happen anymore.

00:40:18.820 And don't worry about your career.

00:40:20.940 Don't worry about your life.

00:40:22.320 It's the second one.

00:40:24.580 The second one to Gehenna.

00:40:27.500 And people, you know, you have, years ago, you had all truth, no grace.

00:40:37.980 So you can go straight, you know, screw up, you go straight to hell, fire and brimstone.

00:40:43.380 But then, in our time growing up, it was all grace and no truth.

00:40:47.660 Sleep with Susie on Friday.

00:40:49.400 Catherine on Saturday.

00:40:50.480 They go to church on Sunday and the blood washes all.

00:40:52.820 Everybody gets in.

00:40:54.600 Sentimental bullshit.

00:40:56.000 You have to have both truth and grace.

00:40:59.300 And so the devil, he goes, you want this?

00:41:01.320 I can make it.

00:41:01.880 You want this?

00:41:02.600 No, it's both.

00:41:04.060 So you got to take, we have to take him who he is.

00:41:06.700 And I just felt like, what an extraordinary thing of events of us coming together and them

00:41:17.040 trying to keep this film from seeing light of day, but boy, they're in trouble now, you

00:41:21.980 know, because this thing is going to be a daisy cutter.

00:41:25.140 What's sold, the movie, you can still get your tickets right now, today, Saturday.

00:41:29.920 You can still get your tickets for the movie.

00:41:32.060 That's correct, but we're dying for theaters.

00:41:35.240 And the movie's already sold like a bazillion tickets, right?

00:41:37.920 Yeah, but we are struggling with theaters because the studios control those.

00:41:42.900 You know, they're the big bosses.

00:41:44.660 They're the big dons here. 1.00

00:41:45.880 And, but what happened on The Passion, same kind of thing.

00:41:50.700 But we, the people were calling day and night and the distributors, you know, a lot of them

00:41:55.300 are Christian and they're like, look, it's business, you know, and if your film is not

00:42:02.080 good enough, it's fair game.

00:42:03.900 We're going up against Disney, the Indiana Jones.

00:42:06.600 That's right.

00:42:06.920 Who used to own the film.

00:42:08.560 So there's some cool dynamics going on right here.

00:42:11.720 And then right after us, we're in the midweek and then we go right into Tom Cruise's movie.

00:42:17.700 But we're outselling Indiana Jones by 25% in the theaters where we're competing.

00:42:21.500 Wow.

00:42:21.820 That's why we're, that's why Angel Studios go to the theaters and say, guys, if you all

00:42:24.760 do it together, they can't, they can't hurt you.

00:42:27.740 Bump some Indiana Jones.

00:42:30.280 Right.

00:42:30.700 Give us some more screens because we're selling out.

00:42:32.900 And the, and the problem is, is that you're going to go, oh, you know, I'll wait until the

00:42:36.660 day.

00:42:37.640 Well, you'll go there on the day and you'll want to see the film.

00:42:40.840 It's sold out.

00:42:41.340 It's sold out.

00:42:41.740 So you give your money to Disney.

00:42:43.200 So you give your money to the, to the industry.

00:42:45.080 They know you have, they have you.

00:42:46.060 And I let, you know, when they say, well, it's just business, I think that's what the

00:42:49.800 invited guests to the wedding feast said, oh, I've got business.

00:42:52.320 I got business.

00:42:52.980 I can't go.

00:42:53.980 Well, you're going to regret that decision.

00:42:56.800 Gentlemen, I could stay here truly all day and especially because we have extra gin in

00:43:01.640 the, but, but we've got to get you out of here.

00:43:04.600 You're on a very tight schedule.

00:43:05.580 You're on a whirlwind tour.

00:43:06.720 And so we're going to close it on this question.

00:43:08.980 All right.

00:43:09.940 Better be a good one.

00:43:11.340 It's a good, it's a good question, actually.

00:43:17.460 We'll reset the glasses.

00:43:21.140 Epstein killed himself.

00:43:22.400 DOJ watchdog just came out.

00:43:30.480 He, they assured us Epstein committed suicide.

00:43:34.140 It's just an accident.

00:43:35.560 They just did.

00:43:36.460 And the cameras went off and it, oops.

00:43:39.000 And Maxwell got convicted without any of the end users being identified, which is impossible.

00:43:44.900 Yeah, but, yeah.

00:43:46.800 There's no transaction unless there's a receiver of the transaction.

00:43:50.220 Oh, that's an interesting fact.

00:43:52.320 You're right.

00:43:53.180 If in order for her to be convicted for something, there must have been.

00:43:56.220 You have to show transaction.

00:43:57.780 Two parties.

00:43:58.960 One party disappeared.

00:44:00.500 Never revealed.

00:44:01.360 And then his association with the intelligence apparatus of the country.

00:44:07.740 That's been confirmed.

00:44:08.820 You mean how the labor secretary nominee actually said, who was U.S. attorney at the time prosecuting,

00:44:13.160 Epstein said that he learned that he had to lay off Epstein because he belonged to intelligence?

00:44:18.880 Exactly.

00:44:19.560 What a strange coincidence.

00:44:21.280 Yeah.

00:44:22.780 It's crazy.

00:44:24.180 It's a crazy game.

00:44:26.020 But I have one thing to say.

00:44:27.420 More cowbell.

00:44:28.060 About, I gotta have some more cowbell, babe. 1.00

00:44:32.120 We'll get it.

00:44:32.800 After this movie comes out, we'll all be wearing gold diapers.

00:44:37.780 That's magical.

00:44:38.940 I gotta tell you, everybody does a Christopher Walken.

00:44:42.220 That's a shockingly good Christopher Walken.

00:44:43.940 That is a spot on.

00:44:45.580 Of course.

00:44:46.480 Give you the best, babe.

00:44:48.880 Joy O'Neal.

00:44:54.560 I gotta say one thing, though.

00:44:56.840 One thing.

00:44:58.660 When we screened this in Las Vegas, 1,500 people, five screenings, and during one section of Sound of Freedom, they were all talking.

00:45:11.140 And I thought, that's unusual.

00:45:12.560 But not just once.

00:45:14.000 Same place, same time, five different times.

00:45:16.300 And I was a blind spot.

00:45:18.880 After the end of the five screenings, got up, talked to all of them.

00:45:22.620 And I said, why were you guys talking during this one particular part?

00:45:26.280 Sound of Freedom that you gotta see.

00:45:28.880 And they all screamed out, Epstein Island.

00:45:35.560 Right.

00:45:35.880 And it just dawned on me.

00:45:37.080 I had that while watching the movie.

00:45:38.640 And you realize that it ain't the only sex island out there.

00:45:43.460 So.

00:45:44.640 I had that.

00:45:45.620 So I'm watching the screener.

00:45:47.240 And there's a scene, not spoiler alert, there's a scene that takes place on an island.

00:45:50.420 And it was the first thought I had was, oh yeah, it's Little St. James.

00:45:54.380 Or just one of perhaps the many Little St. James out there.

00:45:57.900 A lot of really important stories that you are living, that you are telling.

00:46:02.980 The movie, guys, is just simply excellent.

00:46:08.180 And it would be enough that it's important.

00:46:10.840 It would be enough that it's reflecting this unbelievable work.

00:46:14.940 But it's just excellent.

00:46:15.900 And people need to get their tickets, if they still can.

00:46:17.780 They're still on sale.

00:46:18.980 We'll see if it's sold out.

00:46:20.040 So head on over.

00:46:20.540 Where can they get the tickets?

00:46:21.460 They're pushing it.

00:46:22.460 I mean, they're pushing how big they want to make this.

00:46:24.460 Angel.com.

00:46:25.480 Angel.com.

00:46:26.000 Angel.com.

00:46:26.380 Forward slash Jim. 0.81

00:46:27.880 They didn't do Tim.

00:46:28.640 They did Jim.

00:46:29.420 That's fine.

00:46:30.060 Look, it's fine.

00:46:30.860 It's fine.

00:46:31.160 One letter off.

00:46:32.140 One letter off.

00:46:33.260 Jim, thank you.

00:46:34.100 Wait, wait.

00:46:34.460 Before we leave, can I do one more?

00:46:36.240 No.

00:46:36.640 One question.

00:46:37.260 Absolutely not.

00:46:37.820 I got a question.

00:46:38.600 All right, let's do it.

00:46:39.700 I've been kind of watching.

00:46:40.820 I spent most of the time over here watching, just observing this game.

00:46:43.480 And I have one question.

00:46:45.140 Is this the first time that one of your guests swaps saliva with you by partaking of the same

00:46:52.200 cup, even though he was supposed to partake of his own cup?

00:46:54.820 It's alcohol.

00:46:55.820 No, no.

00:46:56.080 I just have to know the answer to this, because this.

00:46:59.500 It kills the germs.

00:47:01.260 Has anybody else done that?

00:47:03.820 That has never once happened on this show.

00:47:07.140 This is the first time.

00:47:08.140 He who drinks from the cup I drink, babe.

00:47:11.300 Let me tell you.

00:47:12.560 I actually had the thought, but I feel like I've got permission if Jim says it.

00:47:17.600 It's now the Holy Grail.

00:47:18.420 Chin, chin. 0.76

00:47:19.120 Chin, chin. 0.76

00:47:20.080 I actually, do you know, this is a truth.

00:47:22.040 Then I'll let you go, but this was a story that I mentioned to Jim a little bit earlier.

00:47:27.540 A priest friend of mine, very close priest friend of mine, Jim was once staying at his

00:47:31.600 rectory in New York, and the Pope was in town.

00:47:34.500 This is like William F. Buckley version of a Catholic priest.

00:47:39.660 Yes, he's a wonderful, wonderful man, but he said, I'm obligated to go see the Pope right

00:47:47.180 now, but I'm really upset by this fact, and I think it's ridiculous, because I have Jesus

00:47:51.960 Christ himself in my rectory, and I thought that was a great observation and an honor,

00:47:58.420 Jim, that you and I could share this martini, and Tim, that you and I could share this game.

00:48:02.240 If I was a Mormon, I would have shared it with you as well.

00:48:04.820 Thank you, gentlemen, both.

00:48:06.080 Thank you for the great movie, and I look forward to seeing it in theaters.

00:48:09.280 If I can get a ticket.

00:48:10.700 We'll get you one.

00:48:12.000 Thanks, Mike.

00:48:12.920 We'll pay it forward for you.

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The Michael Knowles Show - July 01, 2023

＂I Was Struck By Lightning＂ YES or NO ｜ Jim Caviezel & Tim Ballard

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