The Michael Knowles Show - December 28, 2020


Michael Knowles Vs Matt Walsh ｜ FACE-OFF： Catholic Edition


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Who's the Better Catholic? Matt Walsh or Michael Knowles. The Daily Wire hosts a Catholic face-off to determine who's the better Catholic. Who's better at trivia and who's better with theology?

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00:00:00.000 You know, here at the Daily Wire, we've had many inter-faith battles.
00:00:05.280 Ben, everyone knows, is a Jew.
00:00:07.480 Drew is an Anglican.
00:00:09.300 Jeremy is a protestant, as he describes it.
00:00:12.600 And I believe he's styled as a minor deity himself.
00:00:15.760 And then Matt Walsh and I are Catholics.
00:00:18.140 Never have we had an intra-faith battle, but we get this question all the time.
00:00:22.800 People ask, who's the better Catholic at the Daily Wire?
00:00:25.540 Which is very confusing, because in the Catholic faith, we're so concerned with guilt that, you know, in a way, like the worst Catholic is kind of the best Catholic.
00:00:33.760 It's very complicated.
00:00:34.940 In any case, we are going to finally take up this listener question.
00:00:40.240 We will have a Catholic face-on. 0.96
00:00:46.900 Yeah, let me just, I just want to say for the record that I, just to be totally honest, I turned down this bit like three times.
00:00:55.540 Uh, I, they kept asking me about it.
00:00:57.580 They asked me months ago, and I said, I don't want to do that, because I'm terrible at trivia, and I'm about to get demolished here.
00:01:03.900 And I, I, I do not agree with the premise, which is that if you don't know trivia, then it means you're a bad Catholic.
00:01:10.480 Because, like, you already mentioned it.
00:01:12.040 Yeah.
00:01:12.400 The best Catholic is the person who hates themselves the most. 0.99
00:01:15.740 And that has to be me.
00:01:17.040 So, I already won, but now we're going to find out who knows more trivia.
00:01:20.700 And, um, trivia is just not my bag.
00:01:23.220 So, I, that's why I kept saying, nah, can we do a different, but, but they, they kept coming back.
00:01:27.260 So, now, now I'm here.
00:01:28.520 So, so the rule, the ground rules are what?
00:01:30.200 We're going to, um, Drew's going to, he's, he came up with the questions, even though he's not Catholic.
00:01:33.880 He, he came up with the Catholic trivia questions.
00:01:36.540 And, uh, we're going to play those, and then we're going to have 30 seconds to write down our answers on these, uh, whiteboards.
00:01:41.040 So, that's, that's the one good thing is we have these, uh, I've always wanted to do a thing where I write answers on whiteboards.
00:01:46.940 So, that's the one good thing about this.
00:01:48.640 And we'll write our answer on the white, whiteboard.
00:01:50.620 And then, um, and then at the end, the loser has to what?
00:01:55.520 The loser reads an ad for the winner on their social media platforms, I take it.
00:02:02.500 And the winner goes to heaven?
00:02:04.860 I don't know.
00:02:05.260 I, I, I haven't brushed up on my theology recently, but I think, I guess the winner gets their ad read on the platform.
00:02:11.800 I'm, I'm game.
00:02:12.680 Well, not really.
00:02:13.220 I'm not really game, but we'll do it.
00:02:14.220 I'm here.
00:02:14.920 All right, Drew, take it away.
00:02:17.360 All right, we're here with the Catholic face-off to determine who is the better Catholic, Matt Walsh or Michael Knowles.
00:02:24.320 It's Matt Walsh, but we still have to ask the questions and go through the motions.
00:02:28.520 Here are the questions.
00:02:29.320 In January, 1959, Pope John the 23rd, uh, that's, I think that's what XX111 means,
00:02:36.880 shocked the world when he announced the creation of this ecumenical council.
00:02:47.640 Okay, I'm ready.
00:02:49.620 And the answer is Vatican II, or as Knowles calls it, the great transgression.
00:02:58.420 Drew just knows me too well.
00:02:59.960 We both hold up our answer at the same time?
00:03:02.420 Okay.
00:03:02.700 Oh, okay.
00:03:04.740 Sorry.
00:03:05.940 There it is.
00:03:06.960 The ecclesiastical boogaloo.
00:03:08.580 Yeah.
00:03:09.460 This famous Catholic, who holds two Academy Awards for the same film in 1996, has been quoted as saying,
00:03:15.520 God is the only one who knows how many children we should have, and we should be ready to accept them.
00:03:20.240 One can't decide for oneself who comes into this world and who doesn't.
00:03:24.460 That decision doesn't belong to us.
00:03:27.200 A Catholic with Academy Awards said that.
00:03:30.400 Yeah, I don't, I actually don't know who that is.
00:03:33.840 I'm impressed with this person, whoever it is.
00:03:35.820 Yeah.
00:03:36.460 I like them.
00:03:38.580 Um, famous Catholic with Academy Awards.
00:03:43.340 I don't.
00:03:44.500 Hmm.
00:03:45.280 How many famous Catholics are there with Academy Awards?
00:03:48.000 Uh, okay.
00:03:51.420 I guess I'll, I'll go with the only one I can even think of.
00:03:54.520 Yeah, I don't like my answer at all here, but I'm, also my writing is illegible, so I have that going.
00:03:59.900 Oh, Mel Gibson.
00:04:00.840 I put Robert De Niro.
00:04:02.860 Is that?
00:04:03.300 Is De Niro a Catholic?
00:04:04.320 I mean, he's probably, I'm sure he's baptized.
00:04:05.880 I assume he is, because he's Italian, so I just assume that he's Catholic.
00:04:08.840 That's Mel Gibson, who forgot to mention, you're only supposed to do it with one wife. 1.00
00:04:15.480 See, I, I didn't even realize that Robert De Niro, I, or Mel Gibson, I thought he was some sort of weird sect.
00:04:20.760 I didn't think he was actually Catholic.
00:04:21.920 He, yeah, he's kind of trended a little bit like, uh, more, uh, the term is Sede Vacantis, you know, in, in recent years.
00:04:28.520 But he, you know, the reason I thought it might be Gibson is because, you know, he's pretty, pretty traditional.
00:04:33.780 And, uh, that statement where it's basically like have as many kids as you can, that's pretty, that's pretty trad.
00:04:39.440 In 1981, the Vatican Observatory set up a second research center for astronomical observation in this American city.
00:04:47.380 Astronomical observation.
00:04:55.020 What is this city that would have?
00:04:57.240 I do, I do like that the Vatican is just, after they gave up the papal states, they're just coming in and like pulling off different pieces of other countries, including our own.
00:05:05.380 Um, but I, gosh, I don't know.
00:05:09.120 This is a city we're supposed to pick?
00:05:12.540 All right.
00:05:14.040 Okay.
00:05:14.440 The answer is Tucson, Arizona, and anyone who doesn't know that, of course, uh, has to spend time in purgatory.
00:05:22.460 That's Catholic doctrine.
00:05:24.400 Yeah.
00:05:24.680 I chose basically the dumbest place to put it, an observatory for, which would be New York.
00:05:29.200 So I think I was wrong about that.
00:05:31.260 I chose Austin, Texas, because I know there is an observatory there, but I visited it.
00:05:35.800 And I have to tell you, it, it was very hipster.
00:05:39.220 It was not very Catholic.
00:05:40.120 Until the papacy moved to the Vatican in 1377, the Pope resided at this location on the other side of Rome.
00:05:52.240 Oh, hmm.
00:05:54.560 In Rome.
00:05:55.820 I think I know the answer here.
00:06:00.520 I'm just going to name the only other place I can even think of.
00:06:05.200 It was Lorenzo's Bar and Grill.
00:06:07.720 The wings were, no, it wasn't.
00:06:09.580 It was Lateran Palace.
00:06:12.200 Lateran Palace.
00:06:13.720 I said Palatine Hill.
00:06:16.160 I don't know.
00:06:16.720 I actually put Lateran Palace.
00:06:18.320 It's hard to read, but, um, I wrote it very, I wrote it very quickly, but that's, it actually says Lateran Palace right here.
00:06:26.080 Is that in Koine Greek perhaps?
00:06:28.220 Or, yeah.
00:06:28.660 In fact, yeah, I wrote it in several different languages all at once.
00:06:32.420 To be the Pope's bodyguard, an applicant must be Catholic, single, male, between the ages of 19 and 30, at least five feet, eight and a half inches tall, and a citizen of this country.
00:06:45.160 All right.
00:06:52.700 The answer is Switzerland.
00:06:54.580 And, of course, to wear that outfit, you have to be gay. 1.00
00:06:58.500 Yeah, I said, I said Italy.
00:07:00.100 So, this is going about as well as I thought it would.
00:07:02.340 This is the whole reason I didn't want to do this bit?
00:07:07.760 Well, you, you did get Lorenzo's Bar and Grill or whatever the answer to the last one was.
00:07:12.220 I got one right.
00:07:13.200 I'm going to count that one.
00:07:16.100 In ancient times, scribes copied books by hand on scrolls and paper, or printmakers printed text from hand-carved wooden blocks before this Catholic inventor's creation changed the world.
00:07:27.300 Oh, my God.
00:07:32.380 I can't believe the name is escaping me.
00:07:33.800 This is one of the most important people that's ever lived.
00:07:35.820 All right.
00:07:36.040 Play the answer before the name comes back.
00:07:37.260 No.
00:07:37.600 Oh, gosh.
00:07:38.240 This is driving me crazy.
00:07:39.560 Play it now.
00:07:40.540 I need to get at least one.
00:07:41.360 I need to have at least one point on the board here.
00:07:43.020 Oh, no.
00:07:43.980 It's the...
00:07:44.700 The answer, of course, is Al Gore.
00:07:46.400 No, it's Johannes Gutenberg.
00:07:48.080 Gutenberg.
00:07:48.640 Oh, my gosh.
00:07:49.120 I had Guggenheim in my head.
00:07:50.680 I actually got Gutenberg.
00:07:51.940 That's very frustrating.
00:07:52.740 That basically says it.
00:07:55.300 Brutal.
00:07:55.620 In 2006, Cardinal Ercilio Tonini denounced this former Catholic's upcoming music tour as a blasphemous challenge to the faith and a profanation of the cross.
00:08:10.140 Former, like...
00:08:11.680 I feel pretty good about this one.
00:08:13.240 Because I want to say Bono, but he still considers himself Catholic.
00:08:16.540 Okay.
00:08:16.960 All right.
00:08:17.240 Let's see.
00:08:17.600 I don't see Bono being denounced.
00:08:19.160 Yeah.
00:08:19.460 Although he should be.
00:08:20.160 He should be, though.
00:08:20.980 The answer is Madonna.
00:08:24.240 All right.
00:08:24.520 Not the Madonna, but Madonna.
00:08:28.520 So is this even right now?
00:08:30.280 No way it's even.
00:08:31.320 It's like seven to two.
00:08:33.400 In 1961, the government of Brazil declared this Catholic a national treasure.
00:08:40.520 Brazil?
00:08:41.480 Is that it?
00:08:42.860 How the hell are we supposed to know that?
00:08:44.300 Yeah, I don't, I don't, I'm, I'm thinking of like old historical figures, but I just don't, I don't think any of this is right.
00:08:52.400 All right.
00:08:52.780 I think I got it.
00:08:54.040 Answer, of course, is Pele.
00:08:55.800 Who else?
00:08:59.240 Wait, was it actually Pele?
00:09:01.460 Oh, come on. 0.87
00:09:02.900 I drew one of those cool, fancy S's that, uh...
00:09:05.720 Can I at least get half a point for that?
00:09:09.640 I was going to say Cortez, because I think that'd be, that was before political correctness came in and ruined everything, but no.
00:09:16.140 Pele, wow, okay.
00:09:18.140 Born in 1473, this Catholic astronomer practiced medicine without a medical degree.
00:09:30.540 Astronomer practiced medicine.
00:09:33.620 1473.
00:09:35.720 Uh, the answer is Nicholas Copernicus.
00:09:40.040 Yes, okay, hold on.
00:09:41.220 Nicholas Quackernicus.
00:09:42.660 So I didn't finish writing it, but I did get the COP.
00:09:45.840 I think it's pretty clear, unless I was talking about someone else.
00:09:48.200 Well, I, eh, no, we can't count.
00:09:49.780 Wait, I, come on.
00:09:50.740 I was wrong, I had Galileo, but, uh...
00:09:52.420 You can't count?
00:09:53.300 Who, what other COP?
00:09:54.560 I'm not, I'm talking about like, like a buddy cop movie, Bell Gibson again?
00:09:58.620 Coppola was born in 1473, that's, that's some Bush League stuff, guys.
00:10:02.720 Unless, okay, if you can prove that he went by the nickname cop, if people just talk, hey cop, what's up, man?
00:10:08.440 That is, I, I'm gonna pro, I'm taking this up to the judicial authorities of this game.
00:10:13.660 That's outrageous.
00:10:15.000 What is the only historically black and Catholic university in the United States?
00:10:19.820 Hmm.
00:10:20.020 What was the question?
00:10:23.560 Historically black and Catholic.
00:10:24.680 What is the only historically black and Catholic university in the United States?
00:10:29.720 Hmm.
00:10:31.560 Um.
00:10:33.260 Hang on, I got, no, I just got a, I got a text real quick.
00:10:35.700 Oh, yeah, do you have a text coming in?
00:10:37.520 Yeah, I.
00:10:38.400 It's, my, my wife's texting me about.
00:10:41.100 Yeah.
00:10:41.580 It's a really.
00:10:41.960 Dinner or something.
00:10:44.060 Historically black and Catholic university in the United States.
00:10:47.300 I don't know the name of that many.
00:10:48.420 The, the sad thing is I'm cheating right now and I still can't find the answer.
00:10:53.020 This is why I barely graduated high school.
00:10:55.280 What is that?
00:10:58.200 The answer is Xavier University.
00:11:01.720 You, you could have given me like all the time in the world.
00:11:06.100 I never would have gotten that.
00:11:07.080 Well, I, I was Googling it and I still see it.
00:11:09.260 It didn't immediately come up in the Google results, so.
00:11:12.420 What was the greatest distance from Vatican City where communion was taken?
00:11:18.420 Ever?
00:11:20.740 What?
00:11:21.200 I don't understand the question.
00:11:23.320 What was the greatest distance from Vatican City where communion was taken?
00:11:28.140 I don't, what, I don't understand the premise of the question.
00:11:31.800 Greatest.
00:11:32.480 The greatest distance from Vatican City.
00:11:37.740 Ever?
00:11:38.220 So it, it would be, I think, this is going to come down to some serious definitions.
00:11:46.420 Wait, greatest, greatest distance from, am I the only one dumb enough to not even understand
00:11:50.440 what the question is supposed to be asking here?
00:11:52.040 Where communion, where the communion was given and received, how far from Vatican City that
00:12:00.040 would be.
00:12:00.240 So it has to be, the question has to be about wordplay, right?
00:12:04.300 I, I guess so.
00:12:05.380 It's, it's, uh, so who, who was furthest, farthest away from Vatican City when they received
00:12:10.760 communion?
00:12:11.120 I think, I think I actually do have the answer to this.
00:12:14.800 Oh, hold on a second.
00:12:16.140 It's the Apollo 11 moon landing.
00:12:17.980 There it is.
00:12:18.460 I was just about, I swear.
00:12:19.780 There it is, baby.
00:12:20.500 Yeah.
00:12:21.220 You were about to write cop down there.
00:12:22.940 I was just about to say the moon.
00:12:25.680 You didn't give me a chance to write it down.
00:12:27.120 This Scientologist went back to her Catholic roots after divorcing her movie star husband. 0.99
00:12:35.560 Oh, I think I know this.
00:12:38.520 I know all the celebrity questions.
00:12:40.320 How embarrassing is this?
00:12:43.940 Who else?
00:12:44.760 It was Nicole Kidman.
00:12:46.660 Oh man, I picked the second wife. 1.00
00:12:49.780 Oh, I'm completely wrong.
00:12:51.820 What did you, I said Kate Cruz because I forgot her last name, but I thought it would be trad to
00:12:55.260 use his last name.
00:12:55.660 I thought it was, uh, what's her name?
00:12:56.800 Leah Remini from the, uh, King of Queens.
00:13:00.160 Yeah.
00:13:00.560 Used to be Scientologist and I assume she was Catholic, but. 0.97
00:13:03.760 I actually think she didn't go back to Catholicism though.
00:13:06.300 I think she's like stayed with some like kind of weird, weird view.
00:13:09.520 All right.
00:13:09.900 All right.
00:13:10.220 Well, so much for that one.
00:13:12.520 Nicole Kidman.
00:13:12.820 What are the five countries with the largest population of Catholics?
00:13:18.000 The five countries?
00:13:20.200 With the largest number?
00:13:22.240 Or like largest percentage?
00:13:24.260 The, all right.
00:13:24.720 We'll just say the largest number.
00:13:25.840 Um, okay.
00:13:32.220 Most total number?
00:13:35.300 I'm done.
00:13:41.200 The answer is Brazil, Mexico, the Philippines, the United States, and the country of Michael
00:13:48.700 Knoll's imagination.
00:13:50.280 Also sometimes known as Italy.
00:13:51.820 All right.
00:13:53.240 I'll take three.
00:13:54.480 Yeah.
00:13:54.640 I got U.S., Brazil, and, uh, what was the only, Mexico?
00:13:58.360 He said that, right?
00:13:59.260 Yeah.
00:13:59.500 He said Mexico.
00:14:00.500 All right.
00:14:01.000 All right.
00:14:01.620 That one's even.
00:14:02.320 Even money.
00:14:04.860 What country has the largest percentage of Catholics by population?
00:14:08.820 Ugh.
00:14:09.200 That's the Vatican at 100%.
00:14:18.140 There we go.
00:14:18.660 Kind of a trick question.
00:14:19.660 But you still go to hell for getting it wrong.
00:14:22.020 Wait a second.
00:14:22.740 Is Matt still writing there?
00:14:25.080 I wrote Italy.
00:14:26.460 Yeah.
00:14:27.580 All right.
00:14:28.180 I'll take my Vatican.
00:14:29.000 It's technically, I believe the country is actually, isn't the country called the Holy
00:14:31.980 See?
00:14:32.580 I put Vatican in parentheses just in case.
00:14:35.220 Back when, back when there was good political power and, you know, uh, the Holy See had the
00:14:39.740 papal states, there were, there were even more people, but I guess the percentage was
00:14:43.280 probably the same.
00:14:44.500 Third century Bishop Saint Denis is known for his beheading and consequent carrying of his
00:14:49.760 own head before finally dying.
00:14:52.700 What country is he the patron saint of?
00:14:56.620 Hmm.
00:14:56.900 I like this guy, first of all.
00:14:59.680 I do like him.
00:15:00.540 Yeah, I, you know, it reminds you that it, it doesn't matter how far you go, it's the
00:15:04.300 first step that counts.
00:15:06.160 Okay, well, I've just got one completely, just a total dartboard guess.
00:15:11.320 Saint Denis.
00:15:15.080 The country is France.
00:15:17.240 Oh.
00:15:19.220 I guessed Syria, because it sounded kind of like...
00:15:21.860 I actually put Syria too.
00:15:23.180 Did you?
00:15:23.500 It says something about our, uh, cultural perceptions, I think.
00:15:28.420 How many books does the Catholic Bible include?
00:15:33.440 I'm going to get this off by like one or two.
00:15:41.080 Old and New Testament, I assume, right?
00:15:43.440 Yeah.
00:15:44.500 Oh man, I'm going to get, I'm definitely going to get this wrong.
00:15:48.500 The answer is 73 books.
00:15:51.500 I put 72.
00:15:54.120 I had 59, so.
00:15:56.420 I was a little bit off.
00:15:57.260 Yeah, do we get any relative points here, or is that, ah man, that's brutal.
00:16:02.100 And the bonus question, how many are in the Protestant Bible?
00:16:06.620 See, this is a trick, because if you get it right, then you lose a point.
00:16:09.660 That's right, this is the problem.
00:16:12.560 Unfortunately, I think I know this one.
00:16:16.000 Huh, wait.
00:16:16.700 I think I know what Matt is thinking of right now.
00:16:20.700 It's 66, because we're going to read out the true ones.
00:16:24.380 I'm actually ashamed to have gotten that right.
00:16:26.140 I got 68.
00:16:27.200 Yeah, I'm sorry that I knew that.
00:16:29.100 So you lose a point for getting that right.
00:16:30.860 I should really lose all the points for getting that right.
00:16:33.520 What denomination is the lord of the multiverse, Andrew Klavan?
00:16:37.260 Oh, we're kind of giving this one away, haven't we?
00:16:40.680 I don't know.
00:17:10.680 I think he goes to a Presbyterian church.
00:17:12.180 I wrote Eglinton too, but I have no idea at all.
00:17:15.000 I think that is the more correct answer.
00:17:16.820 I think that's the one.
00:17:18.320 All right, there we have it.
00:17:20.240 The better Catholic is, of course, Matt Walsh, but Noel's got more answers right. 0.97
00:17:26.180 All right.
00:17:27.120 I am even more sure that I was right to begin with about this whole idea.
00:17:35.040 So I feel vindicated in a way.
00:17:36.920 In a way, I feel vindicated.
00:17:38.280 You know, at the very least, we were both able to demonstrate our embarrassing ignorance
00:17:44.900 of our faith.
00:17:46.240 That's that's and then it adds to the guilt and the shame, which makes us better Catholics
00:17:49.620 in the end.
00:17:50.040 So I think we're all winners in the end.
00:17:51.640 That's a good point.
00:17:52.740 45.
00:17:53.160 You want me to get a 45 second commercial?
00:17:54.760 That's pretty.
00:17:55.240 That's real money, man.
00:17:56.200 That's pretty good.
00:17:57.180 OK, are we rolling?
00:17:58.000 Watch the Michael Knowles show.
00:18:09.480 It's a great show.
00:18:14.240 There are many things about it that you might enjoy.
00:18:19.320 If you were to watch it, if you were to watch it or even say, listen to it, we could watch
00:18:30.520 and listen to it.
00:18:32.820 Sometimes there are some who would watch and then listen to it.
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00:18:51.100 And I would just recommend really watching.
00:18:56.600 There you go.
00:18:58.640 I feel like I really nailed that.
00:18:59.920 Thank you very much.
00:19:03.960 I appreciate it.
00:19:04.780 You're welcome.
00:19:05.480 Yeah, absolutely.
00:19:06.560 Anytime.
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00:19:15.240 thoughts for the next highly contentious, serious, high stakes face off.
00:19:25.340 That's it for now.
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