The Michael Knowles Show - October 17, 2026


Michael REACTS to WNBA Fails with Enes Kanter Freedom

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00:02:14.860 Do you think that, you know, you have the skills to qualify for the Women's Basketball League?
00:02:20.180 Because you're doing exactly what LeBron is doing.
00:02:23.260 Oh, my goodness.
00:02:25.280 I don't want to see that. 0.99
00:02:26.160 I don't want to see a woman get hurt. 1.00
00:02:27.440 Wait till I get into that. 1.00
00:02:36.840 I've been a little tough on the WNBA, 0.99
00:02:38.900 and people have rightly pointed out
00:02:40.780 I'm not the biggest athlete in the world,
00:02:43.300 either by stature or by expertise.
00:02:45.920 So I decided to bring in someone
00:02:47.720 who is one of the biggest athletes in the world,
00:02:51.000 both by stature and expertise.
00:02:52.380 That would be Enes Cantor-Freedom.
00:02:55.220 Enes, thank you for coming on.
00:02:56.300 Thank you for having me, brother.
00:02:56.980 So I don't, people are criticizing me.
00:03:00.120 They're saying maybe I don't know what I'm talking about
00:03:02.340 when it comes to the WNBA.
00:03:03.880 Not only are you an athlete.
00:03:04.860 I know what I'm talking about.
00:03:05.880 Yes, because look, you played what, 11 seasons in the NBA?
00:03:09.500 Yeah, but more importantly than that,
00:03:11.720 you might play another 11 seasons in the WNBA 1.00
00:03:14.240 if they let you in.
00:03:15.200 Well, only if they let me in.
00:03:16.780 Yes.
00:03:17.100 You know, only if they don't change the rules.
00:03:19.840 I'm actually, I started to work out.
00:03:22.020 So, you know, I'm just like, you know, it's like a first year of school.
00:03:24.120 You know, you get excited, you get nervous.
00:03:25.980 I promise I have those feelings right now.
00:03:27.820 So if they don't change the rules, I'm in.
00:03:29.520 Now, do you think that, you know, you have the skills to qualify for the Women's Basketball League?
00:03:34.560 Listen, if that ever happens, there won't be any record standing.
00:03:40.320 I will literally, I might, they might need to get like, I might break every rim that I've played on.
00:03:45.960 I will 100% will dunk everything.
00:03:47.960 Wow, okay, well.
00:03:49.060 That's my goal.
00:03:49.540 If I don't dunk, it doesn't count.
00:03:51.580 That could be your handicap.
00:03:53.800 100%, yeah. 0.97
00:03:54.660 Okay, well, I need your expertise to weigh in because maybe I've misinterpreted what some of the gals of the WNBA have said. 1.00
00:04:02.380 Here's one of the coach ladies describing the whole issue. 0.63
00:04:08.020 What is your stance on men or athletes who tested biological male participating in women's sports?
00:04:13.860 What's your personal stance?
00:04:15.380 Yeah, I mean, I don't know that I would say that I'm educated enough from a scientific standpoint.
00:04:21.360 I don't ever believe that exclusion is an answer.
00:04:23.920 I just don't.
00:04:25.200 I do think, you know, when we think about various levels of sport,
00:04:31.040 various governing bodies of sport and things that go into that,
00:04:34.120 like I said, I'm not educated enough at the different levels.
00:04:37.800 I know growing up, I played with the boys all the time.
00:04:40.180 There are girls sports. 0.99
00:04:41.840 Would you welcome a biological male in WNBA?
00:04:45.520 Again, it's like I don't know.
00:04:47.480 So when we talk about biological male and scientifically where we are, I think it's a totally different scenario.
00:04:54.440 You know, as I said, I'm not educated enough in terms of transgender and transitioning to give you a smart answer.
00:05:05.020 I would say, though, that I just don't feel like exclusion is an answer.
00:05:08.340 And I think that we need to have deeper, more layered conversation.
00:05:11.800 Okay, so the main takeaway is from that, that woman is not educated, and also, from what she's saying, that sounds pretty good for you.
00:05:20.720 So, listen, but do you see how she, like, stutters, right, when she answers, how nervous she gets? 0.90
00:05:26.220 Just say no, dude. Like, what are you talking about?
00:05:29.440 Like, if the biological male comes to your league, right, you're going to be taking your minutes. 0.92
00:05:36.800 You're going to be taking your endorsement deals. 0.67
00:05:40.180 You're going to be taking your dignity in everything you have built.
00:05:43.140 Like, they have no idea.
00:05:45.160 I've been actually in touch with three European players,
00:05:50.660 three G League players and two former NBA players.
00:05:53.660 They said if they don't change rules, we are all in.
00:05:57.280 So at that point, why do we have a women's league? 1.00
00:06:01.020 Let's get rid of the WNBA. 1.00
00:06:02.840 Let's merge the two leagues. 1.00
00:06:04.140 And let's see what they can do in a men's league. 1.00
00:06:06.800 Now, you had me at, let's get rid of the WNBA. 1.00
00:06:09.580 That was very persuasive.
00:06:11.660 What's strange about her answer, she says, oh, I'm not educated.
00:06:14.800 I'm not educated.
00:06:15.560 I don't know anything.
00:06:16.300 I'm not smart.
00:06:16.840 I'm not educated.
00:06:17.500 Okay, very good.
00:06:18.180 She says, but no exclusion.
00:06:19.720 And then she hesitates on whether or not you can join.
00:06:22.620 So then you did show up to the WNBA, right?
00:06:26.700 Six-point basketball game.
00:06:30.240 Chicago staying in it.
00:06:32.680 Natasha Plow.
00:06:33.560 And right before the break, this was the scene inside Wintrust Arena.
00:06:39.980 After Natasha Cloud got that bucket, she wanted her voice heard.
00:06:46.060 We have talked about the conversations surrounding the W.
00:06:53.260 That is Enos Cantor in the building today.
00:06:56.500 And he has voiced how he's felt about the situation.
00:07:00.220 Natasha Cloud, voicing her opinion as well.
00:07:05.220 Cantor was just escorted out.
00:07:07.620 OK, well, they excluded you.
00:07:09.220 Exactly.
00:07:09.820 They said they weren't going to exclude anybody.
00:07:11.320 100%.
00:07:12.020 Why'd they exclude you?
00:07:12.920 Listen, you know, it's funny because all I did was just
00:07:16.120 got up and say, I support women.
00:07:18.720 That's literally all I said.
00:07:19.920 And it was, I was wearing a t-shirt,
00:07:21.620 was defining what a woman is. 0.53
00:07:24.620 That, I guess, triggered them.
00:07:26.120 And then that really triggered Natasha Cloud. 1.00
00:07:28.920 She was barking at me, and she was dropping a lot of F-bombs.
00:07:32.200 I mean, it's crazy, man.
00:07:33.980 That's not very ladylike, by the way.
00:07:35.580 No, definitely not. 1.00
00:07:36.320 Dropping those F-bombs. 1.00
00:07:37.000 Definitely not.
00:07:37.600 And also, like, she's loved by the Chicago fans.
00:07:40.260 Like, there was so many teenagers and kids at that game.
00:07:44.140 I'm like, you can't be doing that in front of all these kids.
00:07:46.460 Yeah.
00:07:47.760 I mean, after they kicked me out, I'm like, this is just crazy.
00:07:51.020 I thought they were for a woman, you know?
00:07:53.200 So I'm like, I guess let's see what happens.
00:07:56.040 I mean, the crazy thing is, after this whole thing, right, the owner of Chicago Sky, Michael Walter, came out and said Ennis' actions was equal to shooting a gun.
00:08:07.020 He said this in Chicago.
00:08:10.520 They know a lot about shooting guns in Chicago.
00:08:12.400 That's what I'm talking about.
00:08:13.740 Like, you can't be making that kind of statement in Chicago.
00:08:16.440 Like, what are you talking about?
00:08:17.700 It's just, yes, that is incoherent.
00:08:20.160 And then, obviously, the whole situation is incoherent.
00:08:22.900 Because on the one hand, they say, we're not going to exclude anybody.
00:08:25.040 We're not going to say that people who look like men can't play in the WNBA.
00:08:29.520 But on the other hand, they exclude this poor young woman who's just trying to support her fellow girls.
00:08:36.680 I pay, listen, I pay like, what, over almost 10K for those seats.
00:08:42.840 Hold on.
00:08:43.420 I thought 10K was like the entire revenue of the WNBA. 0.97
00:08:46.160 How did you pay 10K for those seats? 1.00
00:08:47.360 Kaitlyn Clark changes the whole game. 0.57
00:08:50.060 Listen, I looked at every other game.
00:08:51.880 I'm like, why is this so expensive?
00:08:53.340 They used to pay you to come to games.
00:08:55.600 Yeah.
00:08:56.280 And now, like, I have to pay 10K?
00:08:59.200 I looked at every other WNBA games, right?
00:09:02.180 They were like, you know, $50, $100, $150.
00:09:05.220 That's too expensive.
00:09:06.920 Even maybe people are saying that even that is too expensive.
00:09:09.800 But Caitlin Clark, man, she just, she just...
00:09:13.640 You know what else is unfair about this?
00:09:15.580 So you play 11 seasons in the NBA.
00:09:18.380 That means you've already paid a lot of money to the WNBA
00:09:21.740 because the NBA subsidizes the WNBA. 0.97
00:09:24.260 See, that's what no one knows about. 1.00
00:09:26.080 So the WNBA loses around $50 million a year.
00:09:29.380 So actually, if you're an NBA player, you would know about this.
00:09:34.280 But if you're not an NBA player, you wouldn't know.
00:09:36.380 So every year, it's called escrow.
00:09:39.560 NBA takes some of the money from the players.
00:09:43.120 Yeah.
00:09:43.500 And if the revenues on everything was good, they pay that money back.
00:09:47.180 If not, they keep the money.
00:09:48.800 So if no NBA, there's not going to be WNBA 1.00
00:09:53.840 because they're the one that's paying all the bills. 1.00
00:09:56.180 You should at least get a discount.
00:09:57.560 You shouldn't have to pay $10,000.
00:09:59.080 I want my money back, man.
00:10:00.080 You should get your money back.
00:10:00.580 I'm telling you. 1.00
00:10:01.760 Maybe you can get it back when you're in the WNBA 1.00
00:10:04.040 as part of your salary.
00:10:04.980 Okay, so if you wouldn't mind just bringing
00:10:07.540 some of your WNBA knowledge to bear,
00:10:10.560 if you're on the team, if who knows,
00:10:12.440 maybe you play some seasons,
00:10:14.020 maybe you end up coaching WNBA,
00:10:16.120 What would be your read on some of these plays?
00:10:19.280 Let's check it out. 0.99
00:10:20.940 Top five funniest lowlights in WNBA history.
00:10:23.720 Let's go take a look. 0.94
00:10:24.600 Starting off at number five, I got a bricked layup.
00:10:26.880 Big man gets the board, sends it back to the person who missed,
00:10:29.800 and she misses another layup.
00:10:31.040 And then they can't even grab the rebound. 1.00
00:10:32.720 At number four, we have a three turnover sequence. 1.00
00:10:35.320 First girl passes it directly to the other team. 1.00
00:10:37.600 Next girl dribbles it through a double team, turns it over, 1.00
00:10:39.960 and then the last girl just throws it out of bounds.
00:10:42.020 Like, what am I even watching? 0.58
00:10:43.400 At number three, we have a basically four turnover sequence.
00:10:46.700 First player falls over, turns it over.
00:10:48.560 Next player passes it away to the other team.
00:10:50.660 Finally, we got some offense.
00:10:51.960 Nope, wait, missed layup. 0.85
00:10:53.640 Next player brings it all the way back down the court. 1.00
00:10:55.940 Oh, she gets in the lane. 1.00
00:10:57.040 Hey, maybe what? 1.00
00:10:57.780 Nope, pass right to the other team.
00:10:59.800 And you wonder why nobody watches.
00:11:01.460 At number two, I got an inbounds play.
00:11:03.360 Nothing bad can happen, right?
00:11:04.480 Unless you pass it right to the other team.
00:11:06.380 And the other person didn't help themselves out by bricking the three-pointer.
00:11:09.700 I mean, this is insane.
00:11:10.780 We're passing it right to the other team.
00:11:12.540 She didn't even have a teammate within, like, 20 feet. 1.00
00:11:14.920 But at number one, we have Miss Rookie of the Year hitting the bottom of the rim on a wide-open layup. 1.00
00:11:19.860 The reason why we watch a woman's basketball is not just because of one person.
00:11:22.960 It's because of me, too.
00:11:23.740 Nah, shorty. That's all, Caleb.
00:11:26.700 Okay, now, I want to know, because I think I'm missing something.
00:11:34.560 Is there some deeper 5D strategy to, like, if you, like, I don't know.
00:11:39.520 I only played basketball when I was about six years old.
00:11:41.220 Do you intentionally throw the ball to the other team in order to...
00:11:46.640 Oh, God.
00:11:47.460 You know, I watch some of the, you know, AAU, you know, basketball,
00:11:52.360 and they're like, what, 15, 16 years old?
00:11:56.440 I promise you.
00:11:57.160 I think the best AAU team is going to be very, very...
00:12:00.980 It's going to go viral, and I don't even know if I should say this,
00:12:04.480 but I think the best AAU team can beat the best WNBA team, 100%.
00:12:11.460 You ever hear about Karsten Brasch?
00:12:13.660 So there's this guy, Karsten Brasch.
00:12:15.380 He's a tennis player.
00:12:17.320 And Venus and Serena Williams said
00:12:19.280 they could beat any male tennis player
00:12:21.780 ranked outside the top 200.
00:12:23.600 So Karsten Brasch was ranked, I think, 208.
00:12:26.000 And he was gonna take them both on,
00:12:27.900 same day, doubleheader.
00:12:29.340 And to prepare for these tennis matches,
00:12:32.320 he went out, played a round of golf,
00:12:34.440 smoked some cigarettes, had a couple of beers,
00:12:36.660 and then he beat one of the Williams sisters six to zero,
00:12:39.840 The other one's six to two.
00:12:41.160 Oh, my God.
00:12:41.740 You're saying that's what would happen with AU basketball. 0.99
00:12:43.940 Listen, AU kids are like what?
00:12:46.200 15, 16-year-old kids.
00:12:47.980 I promise you, man, I think AU boy teams,
00:12:51.120 the best AU boy teams in the country
00:12:52.900 can beat the best WNBA teams.
00:12:55.540 I'm beginning to wonder.
00:12:56.660 Right now.
00:12:56.840 Because I was about six or seven last time I played basketball.
00:13:01.160 But looking at that, I say, well, hold on.
00:13:03.200 I remember that.
00:13:04.300 I remember, like, throwing it to the other team.
00:13:06.460 So maybe, look, you're going to be the pioneer.
00:13:08.900 you're gonna be the trailblazer and then maybe i can come into the wmba after do we have any more
00:13:12.980 highlights 0.52
00:13:28.180 the cringiest player of all time she should get a award for that angel reese 0.99
00:13:38.900 There you go.
00:13:40.000 Okay, so what do you owe Angel Reese?
00:13:42.660 So I was actually like watching Angel Reese
00:13:44.700 because I used to do that when I was in high school.
00:13:47.040 I used to miss it on purpose
00:13:48.280 so I can get like more rebounds on my stat sheet.
00:13:50.980 So at one point I was actually thinking about
00:13:53.000 maybe she does it on purpose.
00:13:54.620 So I was actually watching her games.
00:13:56.040 I'm like, no, she's just not that good.
00:13:57.940 She's just missing it wide open layups, you know?
00:14:01.780 And then she comes out and say, 0.96
00:14:03.560 the reason people watch WNBA is because of,
00:14:07.000 not because of one person, but because of me as well.
00:14:08.980 Like, you don't just say that.
00:14:10.900 Can I, do you, do you know, I don't know the answer to this. 0.99
00:14:13.980 How much money does Angel Reese make playing basketball?
00:14:16.920 Oh, I think, I mean, with all the endorsement deals and everything,
00:14:20.160 I easily, I think, closer to $2,000,000.
00:14:23.140 Actually, you know.
00:14:23.760 $2,000,000 to $3,000,000?
00:14:24.980 I think so.
00:14:25.940 You know, she blocked me on Twitter.
00:14:27.660 Angel Reese?
00:14:28.320 Angel Reese.
00:14:28.780 Did she block me on Twitter?
00:14:30.220 I want to actually show it to you, man.
00:14:32.160 It's actually.
00:14:33.300 $2,000,000 to $3,000,000.
00:14:34.420 I think so.
00:14:35.160 I would say.
00:14:36.140 Angel Reese. 0.99
00:14:37.580 She blocked. 0.97
00:14:38.160 What?
00:14:38.920 Look, this is Angela Reese, right?
00:14:41.060 But she wants you to pay her.
00:14:42.640 Why did she block you? 0.96
00:14:43.760 That's a bad strategy if you're going to pay her. 0.99
00:14:46.020 And you did pay her.
00:14:47.020 I did pay her exactly. 1.00
00:14:48.280 Because you paid into the WNBA. 1.00
00:14:49.700 I would say a fair salary. 1.00
00:14:52.080 Let's ask for JBT.
00:14:53.540 I'm going to ask.
00:14:54.400 Hold on.
00:14:55.200 I would say if I were running the WNBA, which maybe I can someday, 1.00
00:15:01.000 I would say a fair wage for the way she plays basketball is about $32,000 a year, 1.00
00:15:06.480 possibly with dental insurance? 1.00
00:15:08.480 So her WNBA salary is around $350.
00:15:13.160 With all the endorsement deals, I promise you, 0.98
00:15:15.420 she will make close to $1.52 million easily.
00:15:18.980 That's what I'm saying. 1.00
00:15:19.860 A regular WNBA player makes around about $3, $4. 0.99
00:15:24.680 But if you're a top one, like the A.J. Wilson, for example, 0.95
00:15:27.320 they make $1.6 million.
00:15:28.880 So let's talk about a G League player.
00:15:36.960 They make around $45,000 a year, right? 0.99
00:15:40.060 So all they have to do, come out and say, identify as a woman. 0.98
00:15:43.560 They will be making $1.6 million a year.
00:15:47.000 So that's what I'm saying.
00:15:48.160 They have no idea what they play with.
00:15:50.480 Exactly.
00:15:50.700 Worst case scenario.
00:15:51.420 100%. 0.99
00:15:51.800 So all you have to do is just say, identify as a woman, 0.91
00:15:54.760 and you'll be making $1.34 million more. 1.00
00:15:58.840 Because comparing that to Daily Wire salaries,
00:16:01.940 I realize I'm in the wrong line of work.
00:16:03.860 I've got to throw a basketball.
00:16:04.660 That's what I'm saying.
00:16:05.280 Okay, do we have any more highlights from the WNBA?
00:16:09.600 Y'all said it's the player of the year,
00:16:10.940 so I want all the smoke, all the smoke.
00:16:13.800 Who's the best player in the country?
00:16:16.380 To the media or me?
00:16:18.500 As you see it.
00:16:19.400 I feel like I'm the best player in the country. 0.99
00:16:21.020 Yeah, the reason why we're watching women's basketball
00:16:23.040 is not just because of one person,
00:16:24.380 it's because of me too,
00:16:25.200 and I want y'all to realize that.
00:16:26.340 She said it's not just one person,
00:16:27.560 it's both of us.
00:16:28.520 so angels team right in chicago and their attendance six thousand six thousand twelve
00:16:33.240 thousand nine thousand eight thousand eight thousand and then seventeen thousand whoa why
00:16:37.400 was it seventeen thousand who she played who you think she played go go what more would you want 0.73
00:16:41.960 to see for women's sports us getting paid our worth period like yeah yeah because you're doing
00:16:49.880 doing exactly what LeBron is doing, so.
00:16:52.820 Go see the lines.
00:16:54.060 Oh, interesting.
00:16:55.580 Grabs on the table, yeah, I've been gone.
00:16:57.080 See, page your rings.
00:16:58.880 Can't finish.
00:17:00.020 Oh, boy, I'm on one thing.
00:17:02.360 He's got the second test,
00:17:03.620 he's gonna try first, third, with short.
00:17:05.560 Put me an H on it, we ain't gonna be alive.
00:17:07.400 We don't go, can't stop, it's gonna run.
00:17:09.640 Bye!
00:17:11.200 Okay, so there was one time
00:17:13.140 that my company, Mayflower Cigars,
00:17:14.880 we did a collab with Karl Malone.
00:17:17.180 That's basically my only interface with the NBA
00:17:20.380 until right now.
00:17:21.400 Okay.
00:17:21.800 So I don't know how to assess.
00:17:25.100 Is she doing exactly what LeBron is doing?
00:17:27.380 My God, first of all, I mean, listen,
00:17:28.800 on the court, LeBron is one of the,
00:17:32.960 arguably the best player in the world ever, right? 1.00
00:17:36.360 And comparing a girl that can make an open layup
00:17:40.060 to someone like LeBron, I'm like, what are you guys,
00:17:42.800 that's what I'm saying, like, she just,
00:17:46.020 There are a lot of content creators out there, right?
00:17:49.460 And she just gives them a lob all the time.
00:17:52.680 And I'm grateful for that.
00:17:53.500 Like, what are you doing?
00:17:55.080 If she just stopped making comments off the court
00:17:59.020 and just focused on basketball,
00:18:00.540 she's not a bad player.
00:18:03.640 But she's just talking too much.
00:18:06.140 And then, I mean, at that point,
00:18:08.040 she should just focus on her podcast.
00:18:10.480 I don't get her argument, though.
00:18:12.160 Because her argument is,
00:18:13.820 we in the WNBA, we do the same thing
00:18:15.940 as they do in the NBA, including the great players like LeBron.
00:18:18.740 And you say, well, hold on.
00:18:20.240 A guy playing college basketball is doing the same thing as LeBron.
00:18:24.640 If by the same thing you mean like dribbling a ball and throwing it and running.
00:18:28.380 Like a five-year-old Michael was doing the same thing by her art.
00:18:33.000 But she wouldn't say that the five-year-old should get paid the same as LeBron.
00:18:35.820 No, definitely not.
00:18:37.020 So it's going to be interesting because, like I said again,
00:18:39.980 I mean, I really would like to.
00:18:41.280 All these players are not advocating for, you know,
00:18:43.940 trans athletes playing in their league.
00:18:45.940 I'm excited to see like I mean think about I'm just imagining right I'm closing my eyes and I'm
00:18:50.780 just imagining I'm on the post like I got the ball and she's guarding me yeah like oh my god
00:18:57.400 that's like just like that's like that's easy and she just this year she got uh selected for
00:19:03.740 defensive player of the year so she got an award so according to WNBA she is the best defender
00:19:10.980 in the WNBA right now.
00:19:12.940 And obviously we are watching her highlights.
00:19:14.980 Okay, so let's say pickup game, 0.96
00:19:17.740 Enes Kanter-Freedom and Angel Reese play one-on-one.
00:19:21.100 What's the score?
00:19:22.040 I promise, if she scores even once, she wins.
00:19:27.040 I would not even let, I mean,
00:19:28.220 she wouldn't be able to score once.
00:19:30.260 They have no idea.
00:19:32.260 Like, biology matters, man.
00:19:34.080 Like, they have no idea if they ever have
00:19:35.580 to go against a man.
00:19:37.100 Um, so I'm just, I'm just excited.
00:19:41.060 I mean, listen, these are the rules that they put out there, right?
00:19:43.920 I'm just following their rules.
00:19:45.300 Don't you think that it might get a little awkward if you end up on her team?
00:19:48.700 Do you think she's going to have to unblock you on Twitter?
00:19:51.820 There's going to be some, I mean, that's happened on teams before.
00:19:54.000 Let me tell you how the draft works.
00:19:55.360 Yeah.
00:19:55.800 The best team gets the worst player.
00:19:58.200 Sorry, the best team gets the worst player.
00:20:01.680 Worst team gets the best player.
00:20:03.000 So, I don't know how the draft works in WNBA.
00:20:07.360 I mean, I would love to play for Atlanta.
00:20:08.920 I think it's a great city.
00:20:10.640 It's a great fan base.
00:20:13.600 I think it looks like they're going to make the finals.
00:20:17.180 And I will be going to finals to watch my girl Angel.
00:20:21.120 Wow.
00:20:21.780 Yep.
00:20:22.260 I'm going to their game, actually.
00:20:24.040 So, it's going to be very interesting by end of their team.
00:20:27.240 They're probably going to let you stay and keep watching it, right?
00:20:29.220 Oh, they better.
00:20:30.000 Yeah.
00:20:30.200 I mean, because I'm just a regular fan.
00:20:31.800 I wouldn't. And a prospective player. Exactly. I'm actually there to take some notes because
00:20:36.500 potentially if they don't change the rules, I will be going against these players next year.
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00:22:45.940 see calci.com slash regulatory. Okay, so Angel Rees says it's not all about one player. It's
00:22:51.240 not all about Kaitlyn Clark. It's about everybody else. And yet, it does seem like not just the
00:22:56.440 fans, but even the players treat Kaitlyn Clark differently. How do they treat her?
00:23:05.780 Watch when Kaitlyn Clark is trying to create some space. It looked like she just got hit in the eye 1.00
00:23:10.140 there oh oh and marina mabry i missed that one edona oh i missed that one too 1.00
00:23:16.780 yeah it looked like caitlyn got hit hard both by jc sheldon women are always so nice to each other 1.00
00:23:33.200 it just it's crazy to me one attacking another woman it's just funny because like she is the 1.00
00:23:39.320 golden goose of the league and everybody knows that everybody the league knows that every other
00:23:43.900 player knows that but i think it's just it's just jealousy you know you're telling me women
00:23:49.480 would be jealous and cruel toward each other oh i guess no i've never heard that you're telling
00:23:55.300 me for the first time but but why her in particular is it just because she's so good um i think i
00:24:01.860 mean listen till kittin cluck arrived right nobody was really watching the wmba and i think all the
00:24:08.540 other players just feel that disrespect.
00:24:11.020 And now because everyone is watching the league,
00:24:13.300 it's because of her.
00:24:14.140 Even like right now they're out of the playoffs
00:24:17.620 and the numbers went down by like 50 to 60%
00:24:23.780 because no one wanted to watch anyone else but her.
00:24:27.440 And I remember when I went to Chicago Sky game,
00:24:31.920 it was so crazy how many kids,
00:24:35.620 Chicago case was just wearing her jersey,
00:24:39.000 you know, wearing her T-shirts and stuff. 0.98
00:24:40.520 So she's the reason that WNBA is out there again. 0.99
00:24:46.020 Why do they hate her for it, though?
00:24:47.260 I think, like, Republicans weren't cool at all
00:24:49.700 in most of my lifetime until Trump came around.
00:24:53.280 And then everybody started watching
00:24:54.560 because Trump was really cool and popular and everything.
00:24:57.320 And so I would say as a Republican,
00:24:59.620 I wouldn't hate Trump for that.
00:25:01.360 I would love Trump for that.
00:25:02.480 I'd be very grateful that Trump is helping out the team.
00:25:04.980 Right.
00:25:05.580 So she's the reason now every other player gets paid more.
00:25:10.040 So they should protect her at all costs,
00:25:12.440 the league, the old other players.
00:25:14.600 And I think her teammates needs to do a better job
00:25:18.360 protecting her as well.
00:25:19.620 I mean, there are a couple of them out there,
00:25:21.360 like Sophie, and I think there was one more, I believe,
00:25:26.860 that are really trying to protect Caitlin.
00:25:28.960 But everyone else is like, if I have a teammate,
00:25:31.780 which I did, I played with Russell Westbrook,
00:25:34.620 Kevin Ratt, right?
00:25:35.720 I was like making sure no one set him a hard screen,
00:25:39.880 no one touch him, and everyone even said anything.
00:25:42.700 I was ready to fight.
00:25:44.200 Because, I mean, they are the reason
00:25:45.780 that we're making so much money.
00:25:47.600 So all these players out there, man,
00:25:49.260 just protect your golden goose. 1.00
00:25:50.960 Yeah, you're saying the women 1.00
00:25:52.600 are not just mean to each other, 1.00
00:25:53.560 they're also sometimes irrational.
00:25:54.960 I've never heard that.
00:25:56.860 Do we have any more Caitlin Clark highlights?
00:25:59.280 Oh, yeah.
00:26:02.160 Yeah, you see the blood there?
00:26:03.420 Yeah.
00:26:04.620 It was a hard hit.
00:26:05.780 You go up for the rebound, come down, straight elbow to your... 1.00
00:26:10.980 You see right there, Jewel Lloyd's right elbow goes into Caitlin Clark's mouth. 1.00
00:26:19.000 That's a nice little ringer right there.
00:26:21.800 Can I say, I know I don't want to discourage you in your new career. 1.00
00:26:26.460 I don't like women's sports. 1.00
00:26:28.000 Tennis, they can have... 1.00
00:26:29.260 You know why I don't like women's sports? 1.00
00:26:30.480 It's because I love women. 1.00
00:26:31.580 I don't want to see that. 0.89
00:26:32.640 I don't want to see a woman get hurt.
00:26:33.660 I would go to UFC sometimes, KSJ, I go to UFC.
00:26:37.080 And I go there, and I'm watching it.
00:26:38.300 It's barbaric, and it's crazy, but it's kind of fun. 1.00
00:26:40.740 And then the women get up and start beating each other up. 1.00
00:26:42.720 I go get a drink. 1.00
00:26:43.500 I don't want to watch that.
00:26:44.600 Listen, wait till I get into that list.
00:26:48.100 Listen, man, I'm 7 foot, 275 pounds.
00:26:52.860 So think about all these girls playing against a giant like me, right?
00:26:56.680 Yeah.
00:26:57.820 I mean, I just...
00:26:58.300 Are they going to make your gums bleed?
00:26:59.420 Are they going to get you right there with your teeth?
00:27:00.980 I'm going to get a couple scratches if they're nailed. 0.99
00:27:03.720 On your thigh? 0.98
00:27:04.900 I don't know, on your calf?
00:27:06.320 But it's going to be exciting, man, I think.
00:27:09.300 So according to their rule, because they don't want to discriminate anyone, right?
00:27:13.620 I am allowed to take a shower in the same room with them.
00:27:19.020 I am allowed to change in the same locker room with them.
00:27:22.600 And I am allowed to use the same bathroom as them.
00:27:25.160 Because if you identify as a woman, you should be allowed to do all of that.
00:27:29.700 because it's in their collective... 0.91
00:27:31.820 Well, right, and I guess it wouldn't make sense 1.00
00:27:34.240 for the WNBA to have men's showers in the locker room. 1.00
00:27:37.400 Exactly. 1.00
00:27:38.300 So think about how uncomfortable it's going to get 1.00
00:27:42.800 as a full of, I don't know if I should say this, 1.00
00:27:45.560 but full of women in a room, taking a shower, 1.00
00:27:49.200 and I'm just walking in. 1.00
00:27:50.380 Yeah, by the way, it would be uncomfortable for you. 1.00
00:27:53.640 In college, I had to share a bathroom with women. 1.00
00:27:55.960 I don't know if I would mind. 1.00
00:27:57.060 Anyway.
00:27:58.100 I'm just, I'm saying for a few different reasons. 1.00
00:28:01.280 One, I want to use the bathroom around women. 0.97
00:28:02.880 And two, not to be too harsh. 1.00
00:28:06.720 A lot of the WNBA ladies, they're not like, 1.00
00:28:09.620 they're not supermodels, okay?
00:28:12.160 So I don't want to be out of line.
00:28:14.660 But you might be uncomfortable too.
00:28:16.080 I think everybody would be uncomfortable.
00:28:17.760 So that's what I'm saying.
00:28:18.700 Like, what are you guys doing?
00:28:20.360 Like, they don't, they have no idea what kind of like,
00:28:24.260 what they're getting stuff into.
00:28:25.900 because like, so all the, you know,
00:28:29.040 so this is, I think to me,
00:28:30.620 what we are fighting for is bigger than sports
00:28:33.440 because to all the parents out there, right,
00:28:35.320 who think, all I'm, you know,
00:28:37.080 who criticize me on social media every single day,
00:28:41.380 like think about if your little daughters, 0.97
00:28:43.540 they have little daughters, right?
00:28:44.640 Or if your wife or your sister, 0.65
00:28:47.780 would you let your little daughters 0.73
00:28:50.540 be in the same locker room? 0.98
00:28:51.940 It's crazy. 0.87
00:28:52.780 Or be in the same shower with a biological male? 0.99
00:28:54.680 That's what I'm trying to talk about.
00:28:56.860 I have a sort of agilatory take 1.00
00:29:00.520 on why the women are like this in the WNBA, 1.00
00:29:03.060 which, one, it's irrational, it's crazy. 1.00
00:29:05.780 But part of it is women do tend to be 1.00
00:29:08.920 a little more accommodating. 1.00
00:29:11.640 They try to be a little more passive.
00:29:13.480 They try to be all these things. 0.90
00:29:14.900 And so there is something in traditional gender roles
00:29:18.280 that says women are not perfectly equipped
00:29:21.200 to tell bad people no. 1.00
00:29:25.000 And sometimes you need a guy.
00:29:26.360 You need a tough guy to say, like, no, the big hairy dude doesn't get to go into your locker room. 1.00
00:29:32.180 The women might be kind of accommodating.
00:29:33.960 We're not going to let that happen, though.
00:29:35.180 That's wrong.
00:29:35.860 That's dangerous.
00:29:36.860 Yeah.
00:29:37.240 And listen, I'm not the only one, man.
00:29:38.640 There are many other male athletes out there that who, if they don't change the rules, then they're going to put their name in a draft.
00:29:46.600 Listen, I'm not a difficult person to deal with.
00:29:48.960 All I'm asking is add the word biological next to the word female in your collective bargaining. 0.88
00:29:54.340 I promise you, you will not hear from me ever again.
00:29:57.000 People think I'm a psychopath.
00:29:58.680 People think I'm the enemy now.
00:30:00.380 Because when you talk about these issues,
00:30:02.320 which I have a conversation with Sophie, actually.
00:30:04.780 Sophie Cunningham, this is not a right or left issue.
00:30:06.960 This is a matter of common sense and morality, you know?
00:30:11.320 So I understand some of the mediators out there
00:30:15.500 trying to make me look like an enemy, right? 0.99
00:30:19.140 Or a grifter.
00:30:20.800 But again, I'm here to protect women, 0.91
00:30:23.640 And if they don't change the rules, I'm going all the way.
00:30:26.880 Yeah, because by the way, you're doing this
00:30:29.560 to just hold the league accountable to their own rules
00:30:32.580 and to dunk a lot.
00:30:34.660 You'll probably also dunk a lot.
00:30:35.680 I miss playing, man.
00:30:36.760 Listen, I got blackballed by the NBA
00:30:38.580 because I was talking about the human rights violations in China. 0.70
00:30:44.380 And obviously everybody knows the relationship
00:30:46.000 between NBA and China is billions of dollars.
00:30:48.580 So I miss playing basketball.
00:30:49.700 I haven't played basketball since 2022.
00:30:51.640 So if they don't change the rules, I'll be the best. 1.00
00:30:56.000 Like, you think Caitlin Clark can put people on a stance. 0.66
00:30:59.100 Think about when I arrive.
00:31:01.680 Like, every game is going to be sold out.
00:31:04.020 They're losing so much money, I will actually be, I will help them.
00:31:07.120 The game that I went to that I got kicked out
00:31:09.040 was the most watched WNBA games in their history.
00:31:14.240 So you're welcome, WNBA.
00:31:16.760 Also, let's say that you're successful.
00:31:19.640 You're the guy who is doing this for all the right reasons,
00:31:23.200 to protect women, to protect even the integrity of the WNBA, such as it is.
00:31:27.000 Think about all the other guys who are doing this not for the right reasons.
00:31:31.420 Exactly.
00:31:32.400 That's very scary.
00:31:33.300 That's what I'm saying. 1.00
00:31:34.200 At that point, why do we have a women's league? 0.98
00:31:36.820 Let's merge the two leagues, the NBA and WNBA, right? 1.00
00:31:40.520 And then you won't be losing anybody. 0.99
00:31:41.920 And we'll call it the NBA.
00:31:43.380 Exactly, exactly.
00:31:44.640 We'll just take away the W.
00:31:46.000 Do we have any more Caitlin Clark before we go?
00:31:49.640 Yeah, it looked like Katelyn got hit hard.
00:32:10.000 So the crazy thing to me was the commissioner of the WNBA, Kathy Engelbert, and the task force,
00:32:17.640 Just they had a meeting around a month ago.
00:32:20.840 They said, the reason we are holding this meeting is because we want to, like, we're going to figure it out what a woman is.
00:32:27.400 They came out of the meeting, and they said, we need weeks or maybe months to figure it out to answer that question.
00:32:33.760 And if I was playing, like, think about this.
00:32:36.140 If Adam Silver, commissioner of the NBA, right, holds a meeting with the task force of the NBA and says, hey, guys, we need to figure it out what a man is.
00:32:45.620 The next day, there will be outrage.
00:32:47.480 It will be a lockout.
00:32:49.160 If I'm one of those players,
00:32:51.260 I will feel so much of a disrespect.
00:32:54.200 Like, what do you mean?
00:32:55.560 The commissioner of the league that I'm playing for, right,
00:32:58.320 cannot define my gender?
00:33:00.700 I will quit. 0.54
00:33:01.920 No, we need some kind of goodwill hunting.
00:33:03.880 Like, Matt Damon shows up.
00:33:05.220 You know, we've got this intractable problem
00:33:07.280 on the chalkboard, and then he shows up. 0.87
00:33:09.600 He says, a woman is, like, that.
00:33:11.760 You know, and he's like, how did he know?
00:33:13.500 How could he, this genius janitor, how did he know?
00:33:16.680 No, unbelievable, but it's interesting, man.
00:33:19.300 I mean, listen, they could have just killed the whole thing the next day,
00:33:23.700 but, I mean, they're just dragging this whole thing.
00:33:25.840 I mean, they still couldn't figure out what a woman is.
00:33:29.180 And think about this.
00:33:30.780 Instead of defining what a woman is, right, 1.00
00:33:32.540 the commissioner of the WNBA decided to step down.
00:33:36.720 From one of the biggest women organizations in America,
00:33:39.940 she's like, no, I'm not going to define it.
00:33:41.400 She couldn't figure it out.
00:33:42.180 I was like, yeah, I'd rather step down.
00:33:45.020 Yeah.
00:33:45.700 And she has been there for over seven years.
00:33:48.420 No, but this is really,
00:33:50.000 this actually makes me feel bad for them now
00:33:52.040 because this is like,
00:33:54.500 you deal with this sometimes with your wife or whatever.
00:33:56.580 If I'm negotiating something,
00:33:57.900 I like negotiating.
00:33:59.320 It's annoying.
00:34:00.000 It takes up time.
00:34:01.040 It's tough.
00:34:01.780 But I really enjoy a negotiation.
00:34:04.620 I like to, I want to get my side through.
00:34:06.500 I want to, it's a fun game.
00:34:08.300 Okay. 1.00
00:34:08.600 Women hate negotiations. 1.00
00:34:09.760 This is why they get paid less. 1.00
00:34:10.900 Women do get paid less than men. 1.00
00:34:12.160 It's in part because they work fewer hours 0.99
00:34:13.900 and they work for less.
00:34:14.620 stretches of time and they do all of that.
00:34:17.260 But the other reason they get paid less
00:34:18.540 is because the man goes into his boss's office
00:34:20.340 and says, hey, this is what I need.
00:34:22.600 This is what I'm not getting.
00:34:24.220 These are my options.
00:34:25.760 And the guy gets it.
00:34:26.620 And the guys both enjoy that. 0.98
00:34:28.820 And the woman will never ask for the raise. 1.00
00:34:31.700 She might go sue the company for discrimination, 1.00
00:34:33.780 but she'll never ask for a raise.
00:34:35.000 And so this is the extreme form. 0.96
00:34:36.800 The head of the WNBA just says like,
00:34:38.580 well, I'm in this negotiation and I have to be like,
00:34:40.680 you know what?
00:34:41.180 I'm out.
00:34:41.880 I'm out.
00:34:42.220 I give up.
00:34:43.340 Maybe you could become the commissioner. 0.98
00:34:44.620 I will, listen, I support, and I have them more for women than that commissioner, I promise. 0.99
00:34:51.460 For sure.
00:34:52.640 It's a shame, man.
00:34:55.680 But whoever the next commissioner is, right, from day one, make the right decision, add the word biological, and then I will be gone.
00:35:05.660 Because if not, so the question is, people keep asking me, are you going to sue them?
00:35:12.220 The thing is, I don't want to sue them.
00:35:14.620 I will win in every scenario I will win
00:35:17.820 because it's a discrimination
00:35:18.920 and it's in their collective bargaining,
00:35:20.920 but I don't wanna sue them
00:35:21.860 because I really don't want them to lose even more money.
00:35:25.500 So, and the NBA is the one will be paying me
00:35:29.660 if I sue the WNBA. 0.58
00:35:30.900 It'll be a, yes, it'll be a hassle,
00:35:32.440 but then you could recoup some of your money
00:35:34.000 that you paid them when you were a player in the NBA.
00:35:36.440 So you might lose that too.
00:35:37.780 That's actually very smart.
00:35:38.740 You gotta sue them to allow,
00:35:40.580 it's like you're helping them help themselves.
00:35:42.380 Do we have any, before we go,
00:35:43.380 Do we have any more Caitlin Clarke highlights?
00:35:46.720 You're really not scared.
00:35:48.720 Oh, there's Sophie.
00:35:49.720 Oh, God.
00:35:56.560 And I was like, oh, shouldn't have said that.
00:35:58.060 And I didn't say a word.
00:36:08.400 The point heard around the world.
00:36:10.000 I love it.
00:36:10.800 That point was viral.
00:36:12.940 probably one of the biggest meme now in sports history. 0.92
00:36:16.440 The point was because someone fouled Kaitlyn Clark,
00:36:18.840 is that right?
00:36:19.680 Yeah, they got on a scuffle,
00:36:21.080 and then all she did was just point, 0.98
00:36:23.320 and that really triggered the other player.
00:36:25.420 But I think what Kaitlyn Clark and Sophie Cunningham
00:36:29.760 doing for women's basketball, not only in WNBA,
00:36:32.360 but inspiring all these young girls out there
00:36:36.700 around the world is amazing, unbelievable. 0.99
00:36:40.100 I just hope that they don't blackball Sophie Cunningham. 0.99
00:36:46.260 There was a huge article a couple days ago 1.00
00:36:48.880 in New York Times and then whoever wrote that op-ed,
00:36:52.600 it was saying that the Indiana Fever is in the WNBA, 1.00
00:36:56.080 should get rid of Sophie Cunningham 1.00
00:36:57.840 because she brings a lot of off-the-court attention 1.00
00:37:01.620 to the team.
00:37:05.060 So I know where this is going
00:37:08.560 because the media is really gonna push hard. 0.97
00:37:10.880 They're just gonna push her out?
00:37:12.040 I think if that ever happens, 1.00
00:37:15.020 she's gonna have every right to sue them 0.63
00:37:16.960 because she's an amazing player. 0.99
00:37:18.520 She's one of the best shooters out there.
00:37:21.480 But the New York Times article was just horrible.
00:37:24.320 And now the media really want Sophie out 0.84
00:37:27.880 because she is exposing their hypocrisy.
00:37:31.180 Yeah, yeah, a lot of off-the-court attention.
00:37:33.280 What about all the other players
00:37:34.340 who are beating up Caitlin Clark 0.98
00:37:35.400 and trying to let men play in the league? 1.00
00:37:36.920 They're not bringing off-the-court attention? 0.96
00:37:38.160 I think they are.
00:37:39.000 Exactly.
00:37:39.820 That's what I'm saying.
00:37:40.660 What Sophie's doing, the just bringing attention for good.
00:37:46.180 Just, she was simply sad. 0.94
00:37:47.680 She didn't like, she didn't commit any kind of crime.
00:37:50.820 All she did said, man should stay out of women's sports. 1.00
00:37:55.400 And that was enough for her to push media 1.00
00:37:58.920 to get them out of the league, out of Indiana fevers. 0.99
00:38:02.260 You know, she is a horrible person, blah, blah.
00:38:04.600 but if that ever happens, 0.99
00:38:08.340 everybody would know that she's been blackballed 0.91
00:38:10.340 and she has every right to sue the leader. 0.59
00:38:12.040 Well, you pointed out that Sophie Cunningham,
00:38:15.000 Caitlin Clark, they're really great inspirations
00:38:17.660 for young female athletes.
00:38:19.260 And I hope that sooner rather than later,
00:38:22.460 Ennis Cantor Freedom is a great inspiration
00:38:24.360 for young women athletes too,
00:38:25.900 to show there's no limit they can transgress 0.97
00:38:29.100 and there's no glass ceiling they can't smash
00:38:31.940 their very tall heads through.
00:38:33.340 And if anyone out there who thinks what I do is a stunt or it's not, they're being transphobic, literally.
00:38:41.400 And I make this very clear.
00:38:42.740 I'm not here to mock or make fun of any kind of personal decisions or group of people.
00:38:48.120 I'm just literally following their rules.
00:38:50.460 If they change rules, I'll be the first one to follow and say, all right, I'm gone.
00:38:55.040 Walk to the sunset.
00:38:55.960 But if they don't, I will be breaking every record. 0.91
00:38:59.200 if they don't do it quality as long as they have the rules you're here you're queer and you're 0.84
00:39:06.760 dunking that basketball ennis thank you for coming by make sure i gotta send you home i got i brought 0.98
00:39:14.100 with me here i smoke the robusto and the coronas and but i brought the ennis size cigars these are
00:39:21.240 the gordos i don't smoke but if they ever change the rules i will be making a video with these
00:39:27.860 cigars. You holding that, it's like a cigarette. For me, it's like a police baton. See you next
00:39:33.860 time.
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