The Michael Knowles Show - Michael's Producer Spills Show SECRETS & His New MOVIE ｜ Ben Davies

00:00:00.000 I have mentioned this to someone before when I talk about this show, that it's a lot like when a couple gets pregnant, and they say, we are having a baby.

00:00:07.180 Yeah.

00:00:07.880 However, one person is carrying that child.

00:00:11.300 We are having that baby, Michael, every day.

00:00:13.300 And you are carrying that child.

00:00:23.800 Welcome to a very special episode of Yes or No.

00:00:27.980 This is a very special episode because while we have had many illustrious figures on this show before, never, to my knowledge, have we had an actor, a movie star, someone who is in the movie that is released nationally right now, Courageous, Legacy.

00:00:43.300 This is the follow-up to a movie that was released in 2011, did extraordinarily well, and a good movie about faith, about family, about fathers, a good movie about the police,

00:00:54.780 and a movie where one of the stars is the producer of this very show.

00:01:01.580 Not just Yes or No, but the Michael Knowles show here at The Daily Wire.

00:01:04.120 That would be Ben Davies.

00:01:06.140 Ben, this is surreal.

00:01:08.220 This is very strange.

00:01:09.280 You are usually right there directing this show, but now you are in the hot seat.

00:01:14.080 It feels so different being in this seat and not knowing a single question that I'm about to read.

00:01:18.520 It really stresses me out.

00:01:19.420 But thank you so much for having me, Michael, first of all.

00:01:21.460 You know...

00:01:21.980 It's truly an honor to finally talk to you face-to-face.

00:01:23.680 I mean, this is the first time we've ever spoken without, you know, a secretary sort of running back and forth.

00:01:28.940 This is really great because a lot of the people who are watching don't know this, but we're such a powerful operation here at The Daily Wire.

00:01:36.840 We're so leaning into Hollywood that even our producers are movie stars.

00:01:41.680 Yeah, I guess you could give me that title, except I don't think anyone would know me walking through the office.

00:01:46.180 Like, you're that guy that wrecks Michael's show every single day.

00:01:48.520 That's usually how I'm known as I walk these halls.

00:01:50.240 But, you know, you really have had a long career in film, and this is a big movie, and it did extremely well ten years ago.

00:01:56.920 And now this new version, where you've all aged, obviously, ten years, this is now in theaters nationwide.

00:02:03.440 Yeah, it was great to come back and see how old everyone got after ten years.

00:02:06.160 But it is great to see there was such a great response from the first movie that came out in 2011 with Courageous.

00:02:10.900 And then the impact it had across the country that Sony actually came back and like, hey, can we print some more money and release this movie again?

00:02:16.980 And they brought us all back to shoot this alternate ending for Courageous.

00:02:20.180 And so we've all actually legitimately aged ten years.

00:02:22.540 We shot the original in 2010.

00:02:23.980 We shot this alternate ending in 2020.

00:02:26.600 They recut the movie.

00:02:27.440 It's released nationwide right now.

00:02:28.780 So everyone, please go out, see it.

00:02:30.820 I'd really appreciate it.

00:02:31.880 And I can't wait to see the response.

00:02:33.340 Hopefully it's just like it was in 2011.

00:02:35.160 This reminds me of that movie Boyhood, you know, where they shot it over a period of time.

00:02:39.160 Except this one.

00:02:39.940 That's exactly what it felt like.

00:02:40.940 I was like, dude, did you have our photos?

00:02:43.620 Like when we originally shot the movie, I'm like, oh, man, it's been rough on you.

00:02:46.540 And we came back and like seeing people aged ten years.

00:02:48.600 But this movie, I assume, does not have that big lib Patricia Arquette in it?

00:02:52.440 This is the most base movie that's going to come out this year.

00:02:54.200 Great.

00:02:54.600 Okay, well, this is obviously now it's got a leg up on Boyhood.

00:02:56.920 All right, so I don't need to explain the rules of this game to you.

00:03:00.340 No, you do not.

00:03:00.980 And I would like to let everyone know that I did invent this game.

00:03:04.040 And it hurt me personally every time that you just disregarded the point system.

00:03:07.820 Just the flagrant disregard for the care that I put into this game.

00:03:10.560 The points don't matter.

00:03:11.880 So we actually did do a new graphic.

00:03:13.680 So every time you get a question wrong, you're going to get dinged for it.

00:03:16.800 And I'm going to get a point.

00:03:17.880 And at the end of this, justice will be served for all those times you completely disregarded my rules for this game.

00:03:22.140 Fair enough.

00:03:22.500 Now, you know, look, as you know, I don't pay a lot of attention to the rules.

00:03:26.580 Should we start with a little drink?

00:03:28.420 You're having a what?

00:03:29.120 What is that?

00:03:29.580 An old-fashioned?

00:03:29.980 That is an old-fashioned.

00:03:30.560 All right, chin-chin.

00:03:34.800 Delicious.

00:03:39.200 The only thing Italians are good for is pizza and gangster movies. 1.00

00:03:50.340 It's ridiculous.

00:03:51.420 There's so many great Italians doing so many great things.

00:03:53.380 We're also good at being gangsters.

00:03:55.720 Yeah, secretly.

00:03:56.600 The gangster movies come from somewhere.

00:03:57.760 Michael does run this place with an iron fist.

00:03:59.260 Everyone is scared of what they're going to find if they cross Michael.

00:04:02.220 It is really tough sometimes.

00:04:04.400 Like there was, I don't know, can we tell tales at a school about personnel stuff around?

00:04:07.660 So there was this guy.

00:04:08.480 We can always cut it out on post.

00:04:09.380 Yeah, okay.

00:04:09.900 Because there was this guy, Elliot Ness, one time who worked for this company.

00:04:13.740 And he made a mistake, you know, and sometimes you get written up at HR, you know, maybe you, I don't know, you get sent home or something.

00:04:21.800 But this guy, Elliot Ness, that's not how I reacted to him.

00:04:25.300 I said I wanted this Elliot Ness dead.

00:04:28.460 I wanted his family dead.

00:04:30.340 I want his house burned to the ground.

00:04:32.440 I want to go to the ground.

00:04:33.560 I want to put on his ashes.

00:04:36.520 You know, people don't know that because it wasn't on camera.

00:04:39.180 You still got it.

00:04:40.080 Most people probably know you just from the Michael Knowles show.

00:04:42.540 But Michael Knowles is a very talented, successful gangster actor.

00:04:47.340 Mafioso.

00:04:47.940 So now we both got that right.

00:04:49.600 I think we both get a point.

00:04:50.980 If we both get a point, of course, you drink.

00:04:53.640 Yeah, I think so.

00:04:54.860 Yes.

00:04:59.080 Okay.

00:05:02.160 Christian films are only entertaining to people with morals. 0.99

00:05:07.020 Wow.

00:05:08.060 I did not write that one.

00:05:08.960 I agree with that.

00:05:18.520 But, you know, there's a caveat here.

00:05:20.260 All people have morals in the sense that all people possess moral conscience.

00:05:25.820 All people actually do know broadly the difference between right and wrong.

00:05:29.780 Now, some people don't act in accordance with what they think is right.

00:05:33.480 Some people do the thing that is wrong.

00:05:34.700 But they all know, I mean, this is why we can, you can watch a Christian movie.

00:05:39.680 You can watch some bad movie.

00:05:41.920 You can watch whatever.

00:05:42.880 And you actually can understand the moral universe.

00:05:45.520 It's actually the only way we have self-government.

00:05:47.060 It's because we know the difference between right and wrong.

00:05:49.100 It's a great answer.

00:05:50.320 It really is.

00:05:51.360 But you are dead wrong, Michael.

00:05:53.960 Wow.

00:05:55.040 Okay.

00:05:56.340 What most people don't realize is when you see a great movie and it lasts,

00:05:59.700 it's because at its core it's a Christian movie.

00:06:02.080 Like the writer of Braveheart.

00:06:04.400 So this is an explicitly Christian movie.

00:06:06.300 And I want you to understand that when he was interviewed with the 700 Club.

00:06:08.700 Yeah, yeah.

00:06:09.300 There are Christian movies that are over the top, cheesy, and horrible. 1.00

00:06:12.740 However, not created as not being one of those.

00:06:14.820 It's a fantastic movie.

00:06:15.540 Right.

00:06:16.020 But most of the movies that do last, like stand the test of time,

00:06:18.780 and you go back and re-watch them, they're great.

00:06:20.220 Yeah, yeah.

00:06:20.520 The writer or director would be like,

00:06:22.420 this was intentionally a Christian type project.

00:06:25.460 And so not every movie.

00:06:27.300 Well, I mean, certainly Christianity is the greatest story ever told

00:06:30.460 because it is real and because it is the real enactment

00:06:35.740 of the deepest longings of our hearts.

00:06:37.560 So I suppose, all right, I'll grant you that.

00:06:40.080 I think we're quibbling over the nature of morals.

00:06:43.980 Yeah, I'm a little suspect on the definition of morals here, but that's fine.

00:06:48.060 Okay, so then I drink, right, because I lost.

00:06:49.780 Yes, exactly.

00:06:54.180 The re-release of Courageous removed several scenes

00:06:57.580 that had the character David Thompson,

00:06:59.400 and the movie is better because of it.

00:07:05.480 Now I have to answer how you would answer it.

00:07:09.200 Oh, man.

00:07:10.880 Someone's definitely going to get fired.

00:07:12.160 I don't know how people wrote these questions.

00:07:13.780 I'm not going to answer the way that I would answer it.

00:07:15.380 I'm going to answer it the way you would answer it.

00:07:16.820 Correct.

00:07:17.120 Well, have you seen the first movie?

00:07:25.720 Not yet, but I am going to end up seeing it

00:07:29.240 before I see the second movie.

00:07:30.840 So you're going to say no, because I don't know for sure.

00:07:33.700 Exactly.

00:07:34.380 Okay.

00:07:36.340 That's fair.

00:07:37.420 That is fair.

00:07:38.040 I can't make a judgment about these things.

00:07:39.780 Yeah.

00:07:41.020 Here's the problem.

00:07:41.740 I have seen the first one, and I have not seen the new cut,

00:07:44.260 so I don't even know how to answer.

00:07:45.260 And I don't know what scenes they may have added or removed.

00:07:48.420 So I think this is just kind of a washroom of the drink,

00:07:50.860 because I do think that every movie,

00:07:53.180 over time you can go back and assess it.

00:07:56.360 There are moments you thought were precious and important

00:07:58.060 that you have to cut out and they're better.

00:07:59.240 So maybe we'll make the movie.

00:08:01.060 And I know this movie is better than the original.

00:08:03.020 I don't know how many of my scenes were cut.

00:08:04.140 This is the problem.

00:08:05.060 It would be very funny if we do this whole thing,

00:08:07.660 we plug this movie,

00:08:08.600 and then they just completely cut your hair.

00:08:10.660 I don't know how they would do it, but okay.

00:08:12.600 So I think we should probably drink for that.

00:08:14.380 Yeah.

00:08:17.400 That's good.

00:08:18.120 Okay.

00:08:20.040 Okay.

00:08:25.020 The person sitting across from me is easy to work with.

00:08:28.260 So I got an answer for you.

00:08:29.500 Yes.

00:08:29.920 Okay.

00:08:30.960 Now.

00:08:35.160 Correct.

00:08:35.520 You come out with it.

00:08:37.420 Come out with it.

00:08:38.080 No, you're flattering me.

00:08:40.400 You're flattering me.

00:08:42.060 I send in my script late.

00:08:44.080 I never get you the answers to questions you need.

00:08:46.340 I barely respond to any emails.

00:08:48.360 Michael, you've worked with actors before.

00:08:50.220 That's true.

00:08:50.580 You know the most difficult people on the planet are actors and actresses.

00:08:54.020 Yeah, that's true.

00:08:54.480 I think they are God's gift for this world.

00:08:56.260 I hate to brag too much since we are like co-workers,

00:08:59.940 but even people coming to the office to like get tours

00:09:03.220 and I don't want to speak to these people.

00:09:04.560 You're like, oh, bring them in.

00:09:05.620 Like I would love to have a chat and like see how they're doing

00:09:07.220 and get to know people.

00:09:08.760 And no, other than you showing up late every single day.

00:09:12.180 Every single.

00:09:12.780 Every single day.

00:09:14.020 Other than that, it's a breeze.

00:09:16.100 No, you're right.

00:09:16.520 I'm basically Mother Teresa.

00:09:17.740 You're right.

00:09:18.200 You're right.

00:09:18.560 So I got that wrong.

00:09:19.700 Take a sip.

00:09:20.500 The other producers though are much more difficult to work with.

00:09:23.460 Yeah.

00:09:23.840 No, that's without question.

00:09:25.540 Slight, slight turn.

00:09:30.800 Oh no, I guess this is sort of related to the movie.

00:09:32.860 Police reform is important to moving forward in our country.

00:09:38.300 Police reform.

00:09:42.820 Police reform.

00:09:44.260 This is the tricky question.

00:09:46.280 Oh, you know what?

00:09:47.100 Yeah.

00:09:47.260 So we're talking about like currently what the police are doing versus,

00:09:51.280 is this like the woke version of reform

00:09:52.840 or like the conservative version of reform?

00:09:54.240 It could mean whatever.

00:09:55.980 So in the way it is commonly understood, let's say that.

00:09:59.180 In the way police reform is commonly used.

00:10:01.140 Or how you would wish it to be reformed.

00:10:02.760 Can I do that?

00:10:03.520 Well, that would be different.

00:10:04.840 So we're going to do the common tongue.

00:10:06.180 The common one.

00:10:06.900 I think we just answered as we would for the common.

00:10:10.080 And then if we flipped it, we would just have to flip it, right?

00:10:12.860 Yeah.

00:10:13.120 It's ridiculous.

00:10:13.980 It's so frustrating to hear that we're going to fix the problem

00:10:16.080 by allowing more problems to happen.

00:10:17.700 And if it was my jurisdiction and it was my police force,

00:10:21.600 I would want people thrown in the can for jaywalking. 0.98

00:10:23.300 And guess what?

00:10:24.220 We live in a better society, I think, because of it.

00:10:25.600 I cannot stand like weakening our only protection against the people

00:10:28.920 that are trying to wish people harm.

00:10:30.220 I mean, you know what?

00:10:30.640 I hear this too.

00:10:31.420 I hear this often.

00:10:32.700 Pardon from our libertarian friends out there.

00:10:35.580 They'll say, you know, we have a big problem of over-incarceration in this country.

00:10:40.640 Oh, my gosh.

00:10:40.960 Over-and I think, okay, well, crime is spiking right now, right?

00:10:45.180 We've got this huge drug problem.

00:10:47.180 We've got murders are spiking, all sorts of-

00:10:50.080 It would seem to me that we have an under-incarceration problem in this country.

00:10:54.500 Is that-

00:10:55.160 It's-

00:10:55.760 Again, in the 90s, they always cite the incarceration of people

00:10:58.740 with the war on drugs or whatever.

00:11:00.600 But you also saw a dramatic drop in crime all of a sudden.

00:11:04.340 Magically, when there was people thrown in jail for crimes, there was less crime.

00:11:07.400 I know, there was a New York Times headline that said something to the effect of,

00:11:10.480 prisons keep filling despite the crime rate dropping.

00:11:14.860 You're like, well, do you know what despite means?

00:11:16.920 It's just, it's so perfect.

00:11:18.340 Yeah, so I think if you and I could reform the police, it'd be, we want to enforce the laws.

00:11:21.920 And also, if you lock up Granny for not wearing a mask, then that person should be thrown in jail. 0.99

00:11:26.380 That's the thing.

00:11:26.920 Because right now, the cops are really good at throwing the Viking guy from the Capitol. 0.99

00:11:31.780 They're really good at throwing him in the clink forever.

00:11:33.020 Has anyone seen that guy, by the way?

00:11:34.300 Yeah, that guy, yeah.

00:11:35.480 He's in Guantanamo somewhere.

00:11:36.340 He might be a fed.

00:11:36.880 I don't know.

00:11:37.400 I'm kind of torn.

00:11:38.600 Is he a political prisoner or is he a fed?

00:11:41.060 I'm not so sure.

00:11:42.160 So they do that for all the awful, terrible MAGA people who had the insurrection, you know.

00:11:47.120 But meanwhile, the libs who burned the country down for six months, who like burned down courthouses, 0.92

00:11:52.420 police stations, private businesses, killed dozens of people, they go scot-free.

00:11:58.180 I would like to reform our system such that those guys don't go scot-free and maybe, you know,

00:12:04.160 Granny from the Capitol doesn't get the book thrown at her. 1.00

00:12:07.020 I couldn't agree more.

00:12:07.940 All right.

00:12:08.620 And you both win that one.

00:12:10.040 It's me.

00:12:11.500 Let's see.

00:12:17.840 Oh.

00:12:19.080 This is a good one.

00:12:20.180 This is probably my favorite one so far.

00:12:21.360 I got into political news because I couldn't quite hack it as an actor.

00:12:28.700 Hmm.

00:12:30.280 And there's an old saying about this, too.

00:12:31.920 Yeah, yeah.

00:12:33.060 However.

00:12:33.500 So you got an answer for me.

00:12:34.280 I got an answer for you.

00:12:35.020 However.

00:12:35.080 We're both in political news.

00:12:36.640 Yeah, but you're in a movie that just came out.

00:12:38.560 It's all right.

00:12:39.020 Someone said no.

00:12:41.020 You're actually right because a lot of people don't know this, but I was in politics first.

00:12:45.820 I did not know that.

00:12:46.660 I was.

00:12:47.100 Yeah.

00:12:47.220 My first political.

00:12:48.260 I mean, I'm saying professionally, obviously, when I was.

00:12:49.660 Although, Frank, you know, I did my first little play when I was a kid at age eight, but I did my first campaign at age six.

00:12:55.140 I guess I campaigned for Bob Dole in my first great classroom.

00:12:57.280 But, no, my first professional campaign, I was 18 or 19, and I'm trying to think my first really professional acting job.

00:13:06.320 I was probably more like 22 or 23, so a long love.

00:13:09.540 I think the two are actually extremely related, and frankly, my politics did have some effect on my meanderings in Hollywood, as has happened to people before.

00:13:19.700 But I think the two are really related.

00:13:21.420 The way that you'll hear that politicians and actors are the same is that they're extremely egotistical liars, both of them.

00:13:30.120 How dare you?

00:13:30.620 How dare you?

00:13:31.260 And, you know, at their worst, that's true.

00:13:33.280 But I actually think the thing that unites politics and show business and actually why there's a huge overlap between the two, Reagan, Stuart Smalley from Saturday Night Live, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Jesse Ventura, Sonny Boner, the list goes on and on and on.

00:13:47.600 Donald Trump, for that matter, is you have to be concerned with the truth as an actor, the truth of your given circumstances, and as a politician, you know, sort of deeper philosophical or theological or political truths.

00:14:00.400 And then I think you have to like people.

00:14:02.620 I mean, you can speak more to this, but if you're an actor, you've got to, your job is to create characters that are empathetic.

00:14:09.640 And if you're a politician, you just spend your whole life at the VFW Hall eating spaghetti dinners with people.

00:14:15.080 So if you don't like people, there's a much easier way to make a buck than to do that.

00:14:20.280 I'm not even sure how to answer this one.

00:14:21.840 I did start into acting much earlier than you did.

00:14:24.620 I was two years old when I did my first campaign and then did commercials.

00:14:27.900 Your first acting campaign, you mean like an actor?

00:14:29.520 Well, that was a print ad, but then the acting stuff really kicked off high school, college, and then I have been a leader supporting in 25 different films even before I started working at The Daily Wire.

00:14:41.880 However, I did also, because of just the drying up of the market in L.A., I did actually seek out other opportunities to do political commentary.

00:14:51.480 I actually started with Rebel Media because I had so much downtime because they were literally not casting any straight white men in Hollywood.

00:14:57.420 There was a bunch of articles written on this too at the time, so the casting pool just dried up to nothing.

00:15:01.600 And then a year of that, I'm like, well, I've got family and to provide force, so I'm going to get into politics.

00:15:06.380 But I'm still doing acting, so I guess, but maybe I did because I couldn't hack in Hollywood.

00:15:10.860 I have no idea.

00:15:12.180 That's right.

00:15:12.760 I guess you could both be a successful actor and have gotten into political media for that reason.

00:15:17.620 That's true.

00:15:18.040 Okay.

00:15:18.760 Would that be a judgment call on your part then?

00:15:20.300 Because I'm not exactly sure.

00:15:21.380 I'm going to keep my point, but I am going to take a sip.

00:15:23.840 Okay.

00:15:24.520 I mostly just want to sip.

00:15:27.420 Hmm.

00:15:29.180 Okay.

00:15:30.040 All right.

00:15:32.440 Protestants hate Catholics because they are simply jealous that they are not the OG Christian religion.

00:15:38.360 Protestants hate Catholics because?

00:15:40.260 Because they're upset that they're not the OG Christian religion.

00:15:43.380 I'm going to say, I've got an answer for you.

00:15:45.280 That's.

00:15:45.520 So this is, you could dispute the idea that Protestants hate Catholics, but let's say given that premise, Protestants hate Catholics, like in that world, if Protestants hate Catholics, it is because they're not the OG Christian religion.

00:16:03.080 What would you say?

00:16:04.040 I would say yes.

00:16:05.280 No.

00:16:05.680 I would say no.

00:16:07.500 You would say that Protestants don't hate Catholics because they're the OG? 0.99

00:16:10.160 Well, it's even more complicated than that.

00:16:11.540 I'm saying if Protestants do hate Catholics, it is not because they, the Protestants, are not the OG Christian religion.

00:16:19.080 I think the reason that Protestants, if Protestants hate Catholics or if they, you know, have big problems with Catholicism, I think it's because of their own misunderstanding of Catholicism.

00:16:30.180 I forget who put it this way.

00:16:31.680 It was some old theologian type.

00:16:35.160 One of those guys.

00:16:35.760 One of those guys who, was it John Henry Newman or Ronald Knox or I don't know.

00:16:40.080 They all sound the same.

00:16:40.680 Yeah, it was one of these guys who said, maybe it was Fulton Sheen, anyway, that.

00:16:46.360 Just go through the Rolodex.

00:16:47.520 Yeah, yeah.

00:16:48.480 Was it St. Augustine?

00:16:49.720 Was it St. Thomas Aquinas?

00:16:51.760 There are not a hundred people in this country who disagree with the Christian faith.

00:16:56.640 There are a million people or many more millions of people who disagree with their misperception of the Catholic faith.

00:17:03.320 But there are not a hundred people who actually do.

00:17:05.160 And so you'll hear these things.

00:17:06.120 A lot of my Protestant friends will say, why do they, I mean, we've had these discussions before.

00:17:09.420 Why do Catholics worship Mary? 0.92

00:17:11.900 You say, well, we don't worship Mary.

00:17:13.440 Why do Catholics pray to idols? 0.99

00:17:15.420 Well, we don't pray to idols.

00:17:16.520 Well, why do, you know, and I just think, if those things were true, I would understand why Protestants would have a big problem with Catholicism.

00:17:23.420 Problem is, they're not true.

00:17:25.300 Well, we're not going to settle our differences over a drinking game, unfortunately.

00:17:28.000 But I do think, you are right for me.

00:17:29.480 I don't think that Protestants hate Catholic because they think they're the OG religion.

00:17:32.680 Yeah.

00:17:33.140 Am I correct on you?

00:17:34.440 No.

00:17:35.120 No.

00:17:35.300 I think that Protestants hate Catholics because they hate the truth.

00:17:38.480 No, I'm.

00:17:39.420 Hey, come on. 0.77

00:17:40.160 No, I'm just, I'm, am I?

00:17:42.400 Okay.

00:17:42.780 So now do we, I guess we both drink on that.

00:17:45.160 Yeah, I believe so.

00:17:45.940 All right.

00:17:46.240 Usually the default is you just drink.

00:17:47.700 You just drink.

00:17:48.500 That is one of the rules.

00:17:49.300 That actually is one of the red ones.

00:17:52.540 All right.

00:17:53.060 Now you read the last one.

00:17:53.840 Is it my turn?

00:17:54.440 I believe so.

00:17:55.640 You read the religion.

00:17:56.420 I did read the last one.

00:17:57.220 Yeah.

00:17:57.360 I would rather be stuck in an elevator with Ben Shapiro than Matt Walsh.

00:18:05.100 You, uh.

00:18:08.780 Oh, come on, Michael.

00:18:10.100 You know me better than this.

00:18:11.520 Because you hate Jews.

00:18:16.680 Right?

00:18:17.440 I thought the Catholics hated the Jews.

00:18:18.760 Yeah, yeah, hold on.

00:18:20.160 I, I would like to hang out with Matt Walsh.

00:18:22.280 Uh, Ben is just too, he's, he's so much more intelligent than me that I feel like I couldn't

00:18:26.680 have a conversation.

00:18:27.400 The only thing I would do is take a selfie and ruin half my friendships.

00:18:30.680 Because they know that I'm friends with this Nazi Jew that is just trying to destroy the 0.99

00:18:33.800 world.

00:18:34.520 Right, a white supremacist.

00:18:36.900 Yes.

00:18:37.360 No, it is, it is tough to keep up with Ben too.

00:18:39.360 Because, you know, the thing that Ben does is he's doing like four things at once.

00:18:43.380 Yeah.

00:18:43.800 All the time.

00:18:44.580 So you'd be having a conversation.

00:18:45.960 But he is writing a column, you know, in his, as you're, so it, you're, you're getting

00:18:50.020 both.

00:18:50.560 But the, the, another person I've heard does that is Jay Leno.

00:18:53.480 Really?

00:18:53.900 I have.

00:18:54.300 I just, I don't know.

00:18:54.980 I don't have firsthand experience.

00:18:56.100 But yeah, I think that's fair.

00:18:57.260 Whereas Walsh, you know, the only thing he would do to distract you.

00:19:00.740 Would he be like chopped down a tree or something or, you know.

00:19:03.340 He's such a bro.

00:19:04.340 Like the first time I actually hung out with Matt Walsh, we were at John Rich's party and

00:19:09.180 Walsh and I kicked up a conversation.

00:19:11.280 We're smoking these unbelievable cigars.

00:19:13.120 Some of the best cigars I've ever had.

00:19:14.140 And then had whiskey and talked for like two hours.

00:19:15.920 Such a good dude.

00:19:16.400 And he plays.

00:19:16.760 You got, I've gotten like 10 words out of Walsh.

00:19:18.880 You got two hours?

00:19:20.140 Yeah.

00:19:20.380 What's wrong with me, man?

00:19:21.500 I don't know.

00:19:21.740 Okay.

00:19:23.160 We both got it right.

00:19:24.000 We both got it right.

00:19:24.840 So we should probably drink.

00:19:28.880 Okay.

00:19:29.620 To you, Michael.

00:19:30.680 Film sets are a great place to spend hours of your life.

00:19:36.220 Let's see.

00:19:36.720 Because you're still in the business.

00:19:37.920 So I guess.

00:19:40.060 Because I know this about you.

00:19:42.140 I know you hate being on film sets.

00:19:43.760 I hate it.

00:19:44.200 Why do you hate?

00:19:44.860 It's such a great environment.

00:19:45.980 You know, the last gig I did before I hung up my spurs, I got to have a lead role in a movie.

00:19:52.140 And I'd never had a lead role in a movie.

00:19:54.840 I'd had some supporting things and all that.

00:19:56.860 And I'd done a lot of theater.

00:19:58.440 But I thought, okay, now I'm on.

00:20:00.280 And it's so boring.

00:20:03.340 And it's so, because you just, you sit there.

00:20:05.160 I mean, you sit there for hours and hours and hours.

00:20:07.360 You do nothing.

00:20:08.220 No one's even reading.

00:20:09.000 You're just kind of making small talk and chit chat.

00:20:12.980 How many of those have I had?

00:20:13.860 You do all of that.

00:20:14.900 And the other thing that's technically very hard about this is with a play.

00:20:18.860 It's linear.

00:20:19.740 So you work on your sort of character arc in a very direct way.

00:20:24.460 Or with a movie.

00:20:25.100 You might film the last scene first and then the middle scene next.

00:20:28.620 I hate plays so much because of this.

00:20:30.760 I've never done plays in my life.

00:20:32.320 Like, I've legitimately done 25 films, never done a play.

00:20:35.400 And there's something so pure about being in the moment.

00:20:37.660 You, like, dive into these scenes.

00:20:39.000 I think it was, describing the film set to some people,

00:20:41.740 I was talking about my history in track and field,

00:20:43.600 which that was what I did before acting.

00:20:45.080 I was the actual national record holder in the decathlon.

00:20:47.900 I went to the University of Florida.

00:20:48.860 And I was the best American ever at the time going into it.

00:20:51.420 And I got hurt and got into film.

00:20:52.560 Yeah, yeah.

00:20:53.160 I know.

00:20:53.520 I got injured in my decathlete career, too.

00:20:56.960 This is really how we bonded.

00:20:57.820 I was talking about professional sports.

00:20:58.400 Talking about, you know, the swimming or whatever.

00:21:01.400 But, no, it's just, I'd describe it as just each event,

00:21:05.160 you have to go on to the next one.

00:21:06.580 And it's the most important event of your entire life.

00:21:08.620 When the gun goes off, you just go.

00:21:10.020 And so every time I'm in an acting scene with somebody,

00:21:12.140 I love digging into the dramatic, broken moments of these movies

00:21:16.100 and getting to experience that.

00:21:17.840 And you're with people that are, like, in the trenches with you.

00:21:19.780 And when you're working with a good director,

00:21:22.340 then they're trying to capitalize on what you're doing and you collaborate.

00:21:25.960 It's this beautiful piece of art every single time that I love.

00:21:28.300 And I can't get that experience.

00:21:29.640 As much as I like to think that us doing the show every day is that much fun,

00:21:32.440 it's just not quite that.

00:21:33.060 No, it's a very intense experience being on a movie set.

00:21:36.200 Yeah.

00:21:36.380 It's like summer camp.

00:21:38.060 I mean, you fall in love with people.

00:21:39.760 You form cliques.

00:21:41.260 You, you know, you think you're all going to be friends forever

00:21:43.500 and then you never talk after the movie in some cases.

00:21:45.860 Whereas with a play, it's much more like a real job.

00:21:48.740 You show up every night or whatever, you know, four nights a week.

00:21:51.000 And you, yeah, it's much less intense.

00:21:53.840 It's much less intense for sure.

00:21:55.420 Than a movie.

00:21:55.700 And I guess it's a good question too.

00:21:57.340 I don't know if any of these questions are going to queue this up.

00:21:59.720 But because it is such an intense experience,

00:22:01.140 I know there's a debate about should you be intimate on camera

00:22:03.940 with someone that's other than your wife?

00:22:05.360 And now you are married and an actor or you have acted.

00:22:07.940 I'm not.

00:22:08.380 I've got my spooks.

00:22:08.840 Do you agree that that is something that you would, should encourage as far as like,

00:22:13.600 because you know it's not reality.

00:22:14.720 However, you're still doing some type of act, which would be also in reality.

00:22:18.220 Yeah, I'm really torn because my acting training, such as it is,

00:22:22.840 was very much from this, the school of the subconscious.

00:22:25.880 You know, the people like Winn Handman, Stella Adler, Sanford Meisner was Handman's teacher.

00:22:32.920 It all comes from the group theater.

00:22:35.500 And the group theater comes from, you know, was influenced by Russia, by Stanislavski.

00:22:40.200 And Stanislavski was influenced, it's all Freud basically.

00:22:43.520 It's all this idea that in pre sort of, you know, technical or method acting,

00:22:48.640 as it's sometimes called, these terms are a little imprecise.

00:22:51.800 There's no more annoying than a method actor, by the way.

00:22:53.500 But, you know, there are so many different versions of it.

00:22:56.380 The thing that unites all of these ideas is this idea that instead of, you know,

00:23:00.980 I'm in the scene and I'm going to be angry at this person,

00:23:03.540 and so I'm going to do the things that would make me appear as though I'm angry at this person.

00:23:07.540 The subconscious organic acting is this idea that I'm going to push the buttons in my subconscious,

00:23:12.740 such that like a sponge filling with water, it just sort of pours out in this very organic way.

00:23:17.240 But the thing that's dangerous about it, and I've come to appreciate this more and more since I've stopped and given it up,

00:23:23.240 especially since I've gotten married, is the whole point of it is you really are in love with the person.

00:23:28.360 You really are in this very, you know, yelling at them or having sex with them or something.

00:23:33.540 You're really...

00:23:34.240 That's a different, yeah.

00:23:34.900 But you're, I'm not saying you're doing a porno.

00:23:36.620 I just mean like even what simulator you're kissing somebody.

00:23:39.160 The whole idea of the organic acting is it's real.

00:23:41.620 It really is real to you, and so then it will be real to the audience.

00:23:44.960 And that to me seems problematic.

00:23:48.220 Yeah.

00:23:49.020 I think it very well could be.

00:23:50.200 I mean, putting the porn aside, obviously that's a different...

00:23:53.280 I haven't done that since I left Chatsworth, you know.

00:23:56.700 It's like a town in the valley.

00:23:57.800 It is.

00:23:58.640 It's hard to describe to people that have not been in film.

00:24:00.700 Like people think of The Notebook every single time.

00:24:02.340 Like how could you kiss this person if you so, you know, betray the person that you're married to?

00:24:07.460 And like that trust and that level of commitment and that emotion.

00:24:11.660 But when you're in those scenes, you haven't thought about the eight-hour day,

00:24:14.960 the ten people around you screaming, going back to one, cutting, microphone.

00:24:17.900 It is so removed from what you see in that perfectly formed frame that, I mean,

00:24:22.800 if I came up and touched your face, it would be different than if I touched your face intimately, Michael.

00:24:26.840 And so to me, it is a great conversation.

00:24:29.480 I love having those with different actors.

00:24:30.760 I have a lot of Christian friends that do not kiss on camera.

00:24:33.360 People will see in a movie coming up that I do.

00:24:35.180 But yeah, Kirk Cameron is a good friend of ours.

00:24:36.560 Because he's a good person and you're just a degenerate cat.

00:24:39.280 I'm a degenerate cat, apparently.

00:24:40.320 Yeah.

00:24:41.500 And it does, to me, feel very different.

00:24:44.640 And it's a conversation you do also have with your spouse because you're together in this.

00:24:48.720 I just can't believe every time we've kissed on camera, it's not real for you.

00:24:52.140 That's what I'm upset about.

00:24:53.520 It was real for me, Michael.

00:24:54.800 I would be okay with allowing girls to compete in men's sports just to show the absurdity of the notion. 0.99

00:25:04.540 That is, for example, letting Sarah Fuller get totally rocked if she had ever dropped the ball.

00:25:11.240 I don't know what that reference refers to.

00:25:12.520 I know this reference.

00:25:13.880 I know who wrote this question.

00:25:15.040 So we should let women compete in men's sports so we can see how crazy it is. 1.00

00:25:18.460 And then we feel bad for the women. 0.99

00:25:19.760 It's like, how would you dare put this woman in this situation? 0.99

00:25:21.720 Okay.

00:25:25.380 No.

00:25:26.300 No way.

00:25:27.280 You wouldn't put the women in that situation just to show they're wrong? 0.61

00:25:29.380 No way.

00:25:29.900 This is this whole thing of, like, let's elect Bernie just to show everyone how bad it is.

00:25:33.220 Like, no, it's my country, dammit, and it's just wrong.

00:25:35.340 We did a very similar question to this, I believe, with you and Will Witt.

00:25:38.680 Yeah.

00:25:40.080 Was I?

00:25:40.800 No, I was wrong, too.

00:25:41.920 Okay.

00:25:42.420 I think we should because, for example, like, do you agree with, like, that you should be able to discipline your child, like, spanking, fiddly speaking?

00:25:50.340 Yeah, I mean, within reason.

00:25:52.080 Yeah, exactly.

00:25:52.780 Within reason.

00:25:53.720 I think there is no better cure for insanity than reality.

00:25:56.120 And for you to get what's coming, you don't touch a flame because you've been burned before.

00:26:00.740 And as soon as you, if you remove, if you keep people in a bubble, you keep your child in a bubble, they will never learn reality.

00:26:05.320 Same thing if, like, they may get a physical reaction to burning, but if you let your son talk to your wife that way. 0.81

00:26:10.640 Right.

00:26:10.980 Like, he needs to know that that is not okay.

00:26:13.060 Yeah.

00:26:13.360 And I think it's so great for these states to go down this road and let people get absolutely rocked so reality will reassert itself.

00:26:19.520 A lot of these women don't want to compete against men. 1.00

00:26:21.660 I mean, some do, and some are willing to do it, and then they get their heads cracked open because of it.

00:26:26.020 But I just think it's, I think it is just simply wrong to fight a woman, for instance, and, like, punch a woman. 0.99

00:26:32.300 And so I just don't, even if it will, I grant your point, it'll teach the lesson.

00:26:36.340 I still don't want to do it.

00:26:37.220 I grant your point, too, but there is something about having reality.

00:26:39.920 Because you and I can talk all day.

00:26:41.540 Yeah.

00:26:41.680 There is something that is just undeniable that people can experience, and that is one of those things.

00:26:45.080 But why don't we?

00:26:45.560 If Sarah Fuller tries to tackle somebody.

00:26:47.700 Is Sarah Fuller a dude or a chick? 0.99

00:26:48.540 She was the kicker at Vanderbilt down the road. 1.00

00:26:49.900 Oh, yeah.

00:26:50.480 Oh, my gosh.

00:26:51.220 Absolutely.

00:26:51.760 Came to the White House.

00:26:52.880 They lost the game.

00:26:53.740 Yeah, yeah, they lost every game.

00:26:54.940 Vanderbilt, it's going to take a long time to recover from that publicity stunt they did.

00:26:58.780 But, yeah, I think, I hear your point.

00:27:01.720 We've talked about this before.

00:27:02.460 But I think reality is the only way to break through to these people.

00:27:06.220 It's like, that is the red pill moment.

00:27:07.580 But what if, what if instead of merely having to persuade them and get their assent for our,

00:27:13.300 what if we just impose our will, which happens to be correct in this case?

00:27:19.500 You're saying maybe we don't have the political ability to do it.

00:27:22.020 I don't think, and I don't think it would change their mind.

00:27:23.840 And they would just say that you're wrong and you're a bigot, which maybe you are a bigot.

00:27:27.260 But it's just like.

00:27:28.120 On this question, I am a bigot.

00:27:29.620 Yes.

00:27:30.500 Punching women is bad. 1.00

00:27:31.580 I'm not opening my mind on that.

00:27:32.980 So, I think I got that one right.

00:27:35.660 Yes.

00:27:36.280 And I got it, so I got it right.

00:27:37.120 I had a great high school experience and am in no way compensating by chasing fame.

00:27:48.420 All right.

00:27:49.580 How long do we have?

00:27:50.820 Yeah.

00:27:51.380 I had a great high school experience.

00:27:52.880 Yeah, I think, I'm sure you did.

00:27:56.140 Yeah, man.

00:27:56.680 I was, I was like the, no, really?

00:27:59.320 No.

00:27:59.760 It was horrible.

00:28:00.340 Hold on.

00:28:00.760 So, this is why this question is being brought up.

00:28:02.640 Like, I had a great time.

00:28:04.260 I, you know, I was like class president and all stuff.

00:28:06.760 Perfect SAT twice, you know, good looking guy, college.

00:28:09.280 But hold on, you're, you're, you're a good looking guy.

00:28:12.360 I don't want this to get weird.

00:28:13.680 Okay.

00:28:13.940 But you're a good looking guy, you know, obviously talented athlete, talented actor.

00:28:19.280 Yeah.

00:28:19.520 I figured you'd be like, you know, swoon all the honeys up on lover's point.

00:28:23.260 What do you mean you had a bad time in high school?

00:28:24.640 I went to a really wealthy, great Christian private school and everyone was good looking athletic

00:28:30.640 Michael and I was homeschooled until I was in eighth grade, went to high school, didn't

00:28:33.860 know any, had no social skills as far as how to interact with people that weren't just

00:28:37.280 being like perfect homeschool people.

00:28:40.500 That's tough.

00:28:40.860 Have you ever been to a Sadie Hawkins dance before?

00:28:42.540 Yeah.

00:28:42.960 I, I, I think once we did it in my school.

00:28:45.840 So, where the, where the, the women asked them that. 0.94

00:28:47.760 I was never asked to one.

00:28:48.900 And then in high school, you get asked a jersey to wear at the different football games.

00:28:52.300 Like the women will ask like a jersey to wear. 1.00

00:28:54.280 I, I had a total of three girls ever asked me to wear the jersey in the entire four

00:28:58.660 years.

00:28:58.840 And I still remember their names because I appreciated it so much because no one, at

00:29:02.460 my own high school, it was a very, very difficult experience and it was a high school down the

00:29:05.780 road actually from here.

00:29:06.620 I bet those ladies are regretting it now. 1.00

00:29:09.000 You missed out on this hunk, ladies, this hunk movie star. 1.00

00:29:11.820 Wow, that's crazy.

00:29:12.560 All right.

00:29:12.740 Yeah.

00:29:13.200 I'll drink.

00:29:13.700 So now you're up.

00:29:14.520 Yeah.

00:29:17.500 I title the Michael Knowles videos for YouTube to be as clickbait as possible.

00:29:22.480 So now I'm answering, because I don't title them.

00:29:24.660 Right.

00:29:25.080 That was a totally worded question.

00:29:26.500 The person who titles them does it to be as clicky as possible.

00:29:30.920 Duh.

00:29:31.200 Without question.

00:29:31.800 Yeah, that's not even.

00:29:32.540 That is the first thing I think about every time I see those videos.

00:29:34.640 It's like, I don't care what Michael said.

00:29:36.080 How am I going to get someone?

00:29:36.920 Well, it's funny because often, you know, I, I, I don't mean this.

00:29:40.160 Uh, I don't, I don't, I don't mean to disparage my own delivery, but I find my delivery on

00:29:44.460 these videos is sometimes it's a little more circumspect.

00:29:46.440 It's a little, well, you know, there's this side and this side, whatever.

00:29:48.660 You can just say more intelligent than the title.

00:29:50.020 No, no, I'm not saying, I'm saying it's a little, it's a little drier though.

00:29:52.980 So, and then I look at the title and it's like, trans lesbian from Pakistan.

00:29:58.420 And I think, wow, man, I got to click on that.

00:30:00.640 That's pretty interesting.

00:30:02.300 All right.

00:30:02.800 So then.

00:30:03.620 So we got that one, right?

00:30:04.700 But we, yeah, cheers to clicks.

00:30:07.140 Okay.

00:30:09.060 At this point, the trans agenda only exists to enrich big pharma by taking advantage of 0.99

00:30:12.860 the mentally ill by locking them into lifetime prescriptions and unnecessary surgeries, 0.93

00:30:16.160 despite the fact that they will only be at best a crude mockery of God's perfection.

00:30:19.720 Whoa.

00:30:20.820 Whoa.

00:30:21.740 Did I write this?

00:30:22.440 Oh my gosh.

00:30:24.020 Uh, hold on.

00:30:24.440 I got to continue though.

00:30:25.580 Due to YouTube and Facebook rules, make your guess and do not verbally confirm if the other

00:30:31.140 person guessed correctly, give only a nonverbal confirmation.

00:30:34.900 Okay.

00:30:35.200 So please sum it up for me.

00:30:36.880 I'm going to sum it up in a slightly less outrageous way.

00:30:43.400 Powerful interests are exploiting sexually confused people to enrich themselves and to advance 0.98

00:30:50.440 their own view, uh, goals, but not to help these confused people.

00:30:55.360 Well, when you put it that way, Michael,

00:30:56.760 I still think you can't, we can't affirm or deny.

00:31:01.800 Of course not.

00:31:05.920 Okay.

00:31:06.820 All right.

00:31:07.500 Uh, you're up.

00:31:12.020 This is going to be interesting, actually.

00:31:15.140 I am more based than the person sitting across from me.

00:31:19.000 Oh.

00:31:19.500 Um.

00:31:20.260 The question is like by your definition.

00:31:22.160 Yeah, yeah.

00:31:22.500 So I'm answering how you would answer about me.

00:31:24.280 I would say.

00:31:26.560 Yes.

00:31:27.260 Yeah.

00:31:27.640 Yeah.

00:31:27.860 I think I'm way more based.

00:31:28.440 My, my answer for why this cannot be is because I'm Catholic.

00:31:32.580 Yeah.

00:31:32.700 It gets back to the earlier, because I'm Catholic, because I don't believe in like, you know,

00:31:36.320 like my liberalism or whatever, you know, which I, I do think the sort of non-Eastern 0.98

00:31:41.900 Orthodox or non-Catholic Christians inevitably sort of partake of that modern thing. 0.98

00:31:47.120 Uh, but, and you think because, uh, because.

00:31:50.160 Because I would lock up Catholics. 1.00

00:31:51.260 Yeah, yeah.

00:31:52.340 And if you would agree with that, then.

00:31:53.480 And it's like, because sometimes I won't even admit they're turning the frickin' frogs

00:31:56.100 gang.

00:31:57.280 If they're not, they're turning them trans. 1.00

00:31:59.000 That, that is exactly right, yeah.

00:32:00.220 You know, okay.

00:32:01.580 I'm up.

00:32:03.760 I could produce this show totally on my own.

00:32:07.720 Well, I can, I definitely can answer for you.

00:32:10.960 Well.

00:32:12.560 Well, no.

00:32:13.480 Good chance, man.

00:32:14.500 No, but yeah, I, I think I, I actually have done this basically before.

00:32:17.100 I can barely get from the makeup room into the studio.

00:32:19.220 So, I need a giant punishment.

00:32:21.220 And never on time, by the way.

00:32:21.680 And certainly never on time.

00:32:22.560 Yeah.

00:32:23.060 So, that was obviously correct.

00:32:24.500 All right.

00:32:24.760 If you're a man who is unmarried by the, by the time you're 30, it's because you're 0.99

00:32:33.220 selfish.

00:32:38.100 Why did you say no?

00:32:39.400 Because I think you believe that certain people will be on different paths, and it's

00:32:42.760 not necessarily selfish that they're following God's plan.

00:32:45.560 Yes.

00:32:46.120 And specifically, you know, priests.

00:32:48.800 Right.

00:32:49.120 I pray they don't get married.

00:32:50.380 Generally speaking, they don't get married.

00:32:51.620 And you're absolutely right.

00:32:52.300 They're degenerates if they're not married by 30. 1.00

00:32:54.080 So, like, which is my baseness coming out.

00:32:56.840 Yeah.

00:32:57.400 Every person I know that is not married by 30 and you know who you are, it's because

00:33:00.780 you're selfish. 0.57

00:33:01.420 Like, that, that's what it is.

00:33:02.420 Wow.

00:33:02.820 That's really, man.

00:33:06.020 Disregording priestly celibacy to own the trads.

00:33:08.680 Okay.

00:33:09.080 That's fine.

00:33:09.760 That's fine.

00:33:10.340 Morally based movies.

00:33:13.960 That's funny.

00:33:14.540 Do we mean based or, like, based?

00:33:16.200 Yeah.

00:33:16.840 Morally based movies are gaining in popularity because people are craving traditional value

00:33:20.120 since the woke mob has diluted the entertainment industry.

00:33:24.660 Well, you're, um.

00:33:26.560 I'm going to give, like, a very esoteric answer.

00:33:28.300 I know.

00:33:28.620 I'm kind of like, well, probably the exact same thing.

00:33:31.440 Yeah, I think, I mean, it's, like, all movies.

00:33:34.740 We're all partaking of the moral universe, and to your point, like, Braveheart is one of

00:33:37.800 the greatest Christian films ever made.

00:33:39.500 So, yeah, I think that's fair.

00:33:41.240 They're still not flocking to these movies, and there's such a, like, vice grip on the

00:33:45.980 films they get out there.

00:33:46.840 There's still going to be these woke things that people are flocking towards, because that's

00:33:49.500 where all the advertising money is.

00:33:50.520 No one even knows.

00:33:51.480 I had a movie that came out in 2016 that I loved.

00:33:53.900 Yeah.

00:33:54.280 Not even people in the church knew about it, because the P&A was so low.

00:33:57.060 So, no.

00:33:57.920 I think that's still...

00:33:58.760 I think you're right.

00:33:59.300 I think you're right.

00:33:59.980 It would be optimistic to say otherwise.

00:34:01.540 All right.

00:34:04.860 Having a day job means you haven't really made it as an actor.

00:34:09.780 Oh.

00:34:10.500 Having a day job, I guess?

00:34:14.020 No.

00:34:14.680 No, absolutely not.

00:34:15.640 I mean, I know...

00:34:15.980 Oh, you got a point.

00:34:16.840 Yeah, yeah.

00:34:17.500 No, I finally got...

00:34:18.340 No, I mean, I...

00:34:19.060 I know very successful actors who have been in very, very big movies, whose faces you would

00:34:24.500 know, who still do catering gigs every now and again, or Tudor, or whatever, because, you

00:34:29.840 know, you do...

00:34:30.360 Like, you can do a big movie, but you might only work once or twice a year.

00:34:33.980 I mean, it's just as a matter of time.

00:34:35.500 It's like 15 bucks an hour is going to support your family.

00:34:39.020 Sometimes you need that 15 bucks an hour.

00:34:40.880 I mean, I think...

00:34:41.640 What's it?

00:34:42.840 Ryan...

00:34:43.320 What's his face?

00:34:43.820 Ryan Gosling.

00:34:44.440 Didn't he go back and work at Fast Food after he made some big movie?

00:34:47.620 I mean, it was...

00:34:48.140 Because he hadn't quite hit his stride again yet.

00:34:52.040 Yeah, I mean, you are right about the time.

00:34:54.560 People often do different endeavors, like Ashton Kutcher will, you know, work with Uber

00:34:58.860 or whatever.

00:34:59.900 However, I think it...

00:35:01.520 By definition of you making it, it's like these are just kind of toys that you're playing

00:35:04.960 with.

00:35:05.220 It's not like if you're an...

00:35:06.200 I feel like if you're a working actor, a real successful actor, then you don't have

00:35:09.760 to.

00:35:09.980 You're just doing this for fun.

00:35:11.280 Yeah, yeah.

00:35:12.520 So...

00:35:12.800 But I'll give it to you on that.

00:35:14.920 Like, that's...

00:35:16.020 Yeah.

00:35:16.280 To really...

00:35:17.080 Yeah.

00:35:17.280 I guess, you know...

00:35:18.100 There's making it and then there's making it.

00:35:19.220 Yeah, yeah.

00:35:19.740 There's making it and then there's like Brad Pitt.

00:35:21.980 Yeah.

00:35:22.580 Okay.

00:35:24.560 Oh, we're getting right to the bottom here.

00:35:25.960 Last two.

00:35:26.580 I do more work for this show than the person sitting across from me.

00:35:32.060 Well.

00:35:36.020 I'm not going to be offended, Michael.

00:35:41.900 This is tricky.

00:35:44.360 Here's why it's tricky.

00:35:45.160 I would say you do more things for this show than I do.

00:35:50.600 For both this show, obviously, and for my show.

00:35:52.980 I think you do more things for it.

00:35:55.000 But I'm thinking about it all the time.

00:35:58.580 I'm writing all the time.

00:36:00.140 I'm stewing.

00:36:01.520 I'm traveling.

00:36:02.660 I'm trying my darndest to own every single lib that goes before me.

00:36:07.780 Every slight interaction, every invitation, all of it is oriented toward one thing.

00:36:15.340 You.

00:36:16.580 So I would say it's very difficult to quantify that.

00:36:18.720 And trying to outbase me.

00:36:20.680 Yeah, I know.

00:36:21.520 Certainly.

00:36:22.040 Yeah, yeah.

00:36:22.560 So now...

00:36:23.200 Well, I would say I do spend a lot of time stressing about this show.

00:36:27.240 You do.

00:36:27.600 You do.

00:36:27.800 And thinking of how am I going to title this to be clicky enough for people to pay attention

00:36:31.240 to Michael Knowles.

00:36:32.140 Yes.

00:36:32.500 No, you're right.

00:36:32.780 What should I put in the thumbnail every single day?

00:36:35.120 Who is messing up on our set that I have to fire or tell to do something better?

00:36:38.940 Yeah.

00:36:39.260 There's a lot of things I'm worried about every day.

00:36:40.300 Yeah, you're right.

00:36:40.820 You're right.

00:36:41.320 However, I have mentioned this to someone before when I talked about this show.

00:36:44.440 That it's a lot like when a couple gets pregnant. 0.73

00:36:47.340 And they say, we are having a baby.

00:36:48.860 Yeah.

00:36:49.140 However, one person is carrying that child.

00:36:53.040 We are having that baby, Michael, every day.

00:36:55.000 And you are carrying that child.

00:36:56.640 Yeah.

00:36:57.160 Actually, no.

00:36:58.600 You are.

00:36:59.100 I will say that you are.

00:37:00.700 Yes.

00:37:00.900 And you are carrying that child.

00:37:02.120 And I'm the husband being like, hey, I'm a part of this too, baby.

00:37:04.700 I'm trans and you're my sugar daddy.

00:37:06.560 People don't know this about the show because it seems so...

00:37:09.420 A lot of times we try to make it casual on purpose, but it's relatable.

00:37:11.940 However, you are in that room writing.

00:37:14.080 Yeah, furious.

00:37:14.520 And working.

00:37:15.500 Slaving away for you.

00:37:17.660 Like a whole time.

00:37:18.080 Like in the salt mines.

00:37:19.600 I know.

00:37:19.980 And I almost feel bad to come in there and talk to you about why Catholics are wrong. 1.00

00:37:23.480 But it's like, I have to do it.

00:37:24.660 I have to do it.

00:37:26.060 All right.

00:37:26.720 You're reading the last question, Ryan.

00:37:28.140 I'm reading the last question.

00:37:28.680 Okay.

00:37:29.020 Here we go.

00:37:31.460 I'm going to take it off.

00:37:33.940 This has been near in the end and I didn't even get close to the end of mine.

00:37:36.540 Yeah.

00:37:36.900 Yeah.

00:37:37.540 All right.

00:37:38.140 Catch up.

00:37:42.520 Being...

00:37:42.960 This is like such a stupid...

00:37:46.600 It's such a stupid question.

00:37:48.860 Being tall and attractive has helped my career.

00:37:52.800 Well, by whose definition is the problem?

00:37:56.560 Let's see.

00:37:56.960 I would say...

00:37:58.160 Well, for you, yes.

00:37:59.240 And then let's see what you're...

00:38:00.120 Well...

00:38:02.120 Wow.

00:38:05.480 See, what you don't understand, Mr. Davies, you...

00:38:08.300 What are you, 6'3"?

00:38:09.120 6'4"?

00:38:10.220 Give or take.

00:38:10.960 Yeah.

00:38:11.160 Okay.

00:38:11.500 So what you don't understand, because you say, Michael, you're not 6'3".

00:38:14.640 I do say that.

00:38:15.520 You're a little less tall than 6'3".

00:38:17.380 So your conclusion of that is that I am not tall.

00:38:20.280 But you see, these things are a little bit relative.

00:38:22.200 Because compared to the Italian peoples, compared to the people in New York, I am Shaquille O'Neal. 1.00

00:38:28.540 I am a giant, actually.

00:38:30.360 There's a photo.

00:38:30.940 I went to Italy once.

00:38:31.800 I was 15.

00:38:32.860 So I was still growing.

00:38:34.060 And I took a photo with these two guys, you know, who were just kind of average Italian guys.

00:38:37.980 They went up to my, like, chest.

00:38:40.360 And these...

00:38:40.980 But yet, if I were to go to whatever Scandinavian, you know, Viking yard that your people come from, 0.95

00:38:47.300 they could stomp me, probably, down. 0.99

00:38:50.440 So I think, relatively, I'm going to have to move this to a yes.

00:38:54.340 Okay.

00:38:55.960 I think you lean into the intelligence, Michael.

00:39:00.340 And I think that is where your real gift is.

00:39:03.460 Wow.

00:39:03.960 The Scandinavian people, I think, on average, are 6'1".

00:39:06.700 Yeah.

00:39:07.060 So that's, like, the average height.

00:39:07.680 So you're right.

00:39:08.220 This is why I do...

00:39:08.900 The height is very different than the Italians, apparently, which are allegedly pygmy people, according to you.

00:39:12.020 I had no idea they were that short.

00:39:13.760 You know, it was tough.

00:39:14.600 It was tough in the boot for a while.

00:39:16.300 Well, you know, I found out that...

00:39:18.820 I did an ancestry sort of thing, you know, my DNA.

00:39:22.320 And I found out I am part Swedish.

00:39:24.640 I thought, well, I don't look Swedish.

00:39:25.480 What part is that?

00:39:26.040 Yeah.

00:39:26.440 It was a small part.

00:39:28.240 Something tells me some...

00:39:30.540 One of your ancestors went marauding some coast of Britain or perhaps even Italy

00:39:36.980 and maybe had a little fun with some of the locals there.

00:39:40.600 And that might be the result.

00:39:42.560 That explains this.

00:39:43.280 That explains this.

00:39:44.860 Ben, the movie is out now.

00:39:47.260 Yes.

00:39:47.800 People can see it.

00:39:48.740 People are seeing it.

00:39:49.960 They can see you now.

00:39:51.360 Often they can't see you.

00:39:52.200 Often you're behind the camera.

00:39:53.180 They're seeing you right now.

00:39:54.720 And you should see me in theaters.

00:39:56.180 And we should all go see Ben in theaters.

00:39:59.420 Go check it out.

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The Michael Knowles Show - September 25, 2021

Michael's Producer Spills Show SECRETS & His New MOVIE ｜ Ben Davies

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