The Michael Knowles Show - July 19, 2023


Michael & The Q-Annon Shaman： ＂I Walked On The Surface Of The Sun＂


Episode Stats

Length

2 hours and 12 minutes

Words per Minute

172.12947

Word Count

22,741

Sentence Count

1,755

Misogynist Sentences

7

Hate Speech Sentences

45


Summary

Jacob Chansley, sometimes called the QAnon shaman, sometimes known as the Horn Hat Guy, is serving a 10-year sentence for a conspiracy to overthrow the U.S. government. He claims he was framed by the government for a crime he didn't commit.


Transcript

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00:00:30.400 You were in solitary confinement for 10 and a half months.
00:00:32.720 10 and a half months.
00:00:33.800 That seems like torture.
00:00:35.140 I experienced some miraculous things in solitary.
00:00:38.580 I'm freaking out.
00:00:39.620 I'm in a cell.
00:00:40.400 I'm freaking out.
00:00:40.960 I'm like, what the hell?
00:00:41.960 And I had a Bible in my hand.
00:00:43.160 I said, I need you to speak with me.
00:00:44.560 So I closed my eyes.
00:00:45.720 I opened the Bible.
00:00:46.460 I point to a random verse, and the verse was, I am yours and you are mine.
00:00:50.400 I have redeemed you and called you by name, O Jacob.
00:00:52.860 Oh, yeah.
00:01:01.400 Sometimes in politics, one sits on the sidelines.
00:01:05.560 Sometimes one grabs the bull by the horns.
00:01:08.980 Sometimes one wears the bull horns.
00:01:11.920 As we have in the case of my guest today, Jacob Chansley, sometimes called the QAnon shaman,
00:01:18.780 sometimes called the Horn Hat Guy.
00:01:22.700 I will just call you Jacob.
00:01:24.040 Jacob, thank you for coming on the show.
00:01:25.540 Thank you for having me.
00:01:26.400 Now, before we begin, this episode is brought to you by ExpressVPN.
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00:01:36.060 Jacob, we're here in Phoenix, Arizona.
00:01:39.100 We're in Phoenix because you are not presently permitted to leave the state.
00:01:45.520 You have gotten out of prison.
00:01:47.680 You've gotten out of a halfway house.
00:01:49.820 Now we're sitting in a warehouse in Arizona.
00:01:52.820 How'd you get here?
00:01:54.720 Well, I drove.
00:01:59.100 But you're not, you're out of prison.
00:02:01.260 You're, you're, but there are still issues that are working their way through the courts.
00:02:06.560 Yes.
00:02:07.320 Yeah.
00:02:07.620 So my lawyer filed a motion to vacate my conviction and my sentence due to the fact that the footage
00:02:15.980 that was on Tucker Carlson was not in the discovery that was given to my previous defense
00:02:20.700 attorney.
00:02:21.180 Because the story about you and the footage that we all saw is that you led a violent insurrection,
00:02:28.780 a coup d'etat on January 6th, and you were kicking your way through barricades and you
00:02:35.540 were, I don't know, going to take over the country, make yourself emperor.
00:02:38.480 And then we saw this footage that showed that you were kind of just walking through the Capitol
00:02:43.940 flanked, it seemed, by police officers.
00:02:48.000 It was just totally different from what the media had said.
00:02:51.980 Are you allowed to talk about it?
00:02:53.640 I don't know.
00:02:53.920 Well, because of the motion in the courts, my attorney has advised me not to
00:02:58.320 say too much at all regarding that because litigation sucks and it's, it's a long process
00:03:05.380 and the government will, will, and can use anything you say and twist it to make you look
00:03:11.520 a certain way that is going to give more credence to their case.
00:03:15.840 But I assure you, there's a very good reason why they were escorting me.
00:03:20.680 Very good reason, but I can't talk about it.
00:03:22.500 Okay, but you can at least talk about what led you to the Capitol with the horns, with
00:03:30.500 the face paint.
00:03:33.060 How'd you, how'd you end up there?
00:03:34.500 Well, I've been dressing this way for over 10 years.
00:03:38.360 This is a shamanic regalia.
00:03:41.000 Okay.
00:03:41.640 The, the, the feds haven't given me back my original headdress.
00:03:45.420 They still have my headdress.
00:03:46.680 They still have the, I had to make this.
00:03:49.180 This is a replacement.
00:03:50.700 Yes.
00:03:51.140 The feds still have your, they still have the original, the coyote skins, the coyote
00:03:55.260 tails, all of that stuff.
00:03:56.900 They also have my staff.
00:03:58.460 They have my phone.
00:03:59.940 They still have all that stuff and they're not going to give it back until this motion
00:04:02.880 has processed through the courts.
00:04:04.820 But you've been wearing this for 10 years.
00:04:06.300 Yes.
00:04:06.460 I've been wearing this regalia for over 10 years.
00:04:09.120 The original regalia was made of coyote skin and coyote tails.
00:04:12.420 Now in the Dene or Navajo tradition, the coyote is the trickster or the deceiver.
00:04:18.660 So I have the trickster by the tails.
00:04:20.780 I'm wearing the trickster skin because if the trickster messes with the buffalo, he gets
00:04:24.700 the horns.
00:04:25.520 You see what I'm saying?
00:04:26.720 So there's always symbolism in everything it is that I do.
00:04:29.680 And I'm practicing an ancient form of a Hiyoka shamanism in one way or another.
00:04:34.900 It's almost like a, a way of shocking the cognitive system through imagery, through an appearance.
00:04:41.920 And that cognitive shock allows the Hiyoka shaman to come to the tribesmen, come to the people
00:04:48.720 and say, Hey, your cultural paradigm is not what reality actually is.
00:04:54.560 So you wore this on January 6th and before that to shock people.
00:05:01.840 Well, kind of.
00:05:02.780 It's more so like, first of all, Hiyoka also dressed this way to shock or chase away evil
00:05:08.620 spirits.
00:05:09.120 It's a matter of being intimidating to evil, to evil spirits, to evil presences, to evil
00:05:13.840 vibes.
00:05:15.000 So it's about being intimidating to evil while at the same time, shocking the cognitive system
00:05:21.320 that is this pre-programmed, neuro-linguistically programmed system of cultural paradigms.
00:05:27.240 Culture is programming, right?
00:05:29.640 It's an operating system like a computer.
00:05:32.140 And so as human beings, we need to upgrade our operating system in order to fully understand
00:05:36.760 what reality is all about.
00:05:37.700 So now I want to get to the January 6th Capitol stuff, but I got to ask, how'd you get into
00:05:44.540 shamanism?
00:05:45.620 Well, I've always been interested in it ever since I was a kid.
00:05:48.760 You know, I knew like the Native American shaman, the guys wearing the headdresses and
00:05:54.020 the face paint or the, you know, the horns and stuff.
00:05:56.700 I was like, they know something.
00:05:58.020 They're pounding their drum.
00:05:59.360 They're singing their songs.
00:06:00.300 They're dancing.
00:06:00.880 They're drinking, you know, peyote tea or eating mushrooms.
00:06:04.600 Like, what do they know?
00:06:06.260 Like, why would somebody do that?
00:06:08.040 So I was very curious from a very early age.
00:06:10.560 And I got into it, really got into the shamanic path after I got out of the Navy.
00:06:15.940 And then it really like started full, like head on going into it, just diving right in
00:06:21.200 in 2012.
00:06:23.260 I think a lot of people don't even know that you were in the Navy.
00:06:27.520 So thank you for your service.
00:06:29.660 My pleasure.
00:06:30.700 I think this whole interview is just going to be a series of rewinding because the story
00:06:34.720 gets more interesting the further back you go.
00:06:38.820 It's a very patriotic, normal kind of thing to do is to join the Navy.
00:06:44.260 So this is pre-shaman stuff.
00:06:45.880 Why'd you join the Navy?
00:06:47.400 Well, because I wanted to serve God and country.
00:06:49.660 Then tell me about the shift.
00:06:51.860 You're in the Navy.
00:06:53.400 You get out.
00:06:54.680 Why'd you get out?
00:06:55.760 Well, I refused the anthrax vaccine.
00:06:57.980 So because I refused the anthrax vaccine, they gave me a general discharge under honorable
00:07:02.420 conditions.
00:07:02.900 It's like I never joined.
00:07:04.200 I don't get my GI bill, but I also don't get a tainted record.
00:07:08.720 Right.
00:07:09.500 So I was refusing vaccines before it was cool.
00:07:12.360 Wow.
00:07:13.040 I've heard the anthrax vaccine is also the most painful one.
00:07:17.460 I've heard it among my military vet friends.
00:07:20.500 And so you were skeptical of the vaccine.
00:07:22.100 What didn't you like about the vaccines?
00:07:24.140 Well, I did research, you know, I looked into it.
00:07:27.420 I didn't just trust the government, which I don't think anybody should just trust the
00:07:31.120 government.
00:07:32.000 You know, they have a history of not being trustworthy.
00:07:35.940 There are people that were crippled due to blood clots in their legs.
00:07:40.480 There are people that actually died from it.
00:07:43.540 There's all sorts of negative effects.
00:07:45.600 And it's not just one shot.
00:07:47.420 The anthrax vaccine is a series of shots, kind of like the COVID one.
00:07:51.760 So you say, OK, I'm anti-vax.
00:07:53.920 But it was from the physical threats of it.
00:07:55.620 It wasn't, say, a religious opposition to it or something like that.
00:07:58.360 Well, once I really started to do research on vaccines and the people that are pushing
00:08:02.720 them and making money off of them, it really became clear that there was ulterior motive,
00:08:06.860 not just in the military, but abroad.
00:08:09.880 Well, I remember when the COVID vaccines came out, we were told that they're totally fine.
00:08:15.260 They're very effective.
00:08:16.560 They're very safe.
00:08:17.540 And so they made all these scientific claims that turned out to be a little bit dubious.
00:08:20.680 But also the vaccines were produced from research that involved aborted fetal tissue.
00:08:28.740 And so plenty of people had religious objections to it.
00:08:32.400 I didn't know.
00:08:33.260 I assumed that one could get out of that requirement for their work or even in the military
00:08:37.920 with a religious exemption.
00:08:40.120 But a lot of people were denied those exemptions.
00:08:42.720 So in any case, you were not given an exemption.
00:08:44.840 You were told, take the anthrax vax or you're out of the Navy.
00:08:48.180 You get out of the Navy.
00:08:49.340 Then you say you got into some of the shaman stuff.
00:08:53.640 Now, forgive my prejudice, but it would seem if you join the Navy, you're probably like
00:08:57.880 a clean cut, normal American kid.
00:08:59.720 If you get into shaman stuff, that's usually sounds a little more hippy dippy.
00:09:04.560 Not, not the image that I have of a service member.
00:09:07.560 Did something change in your life here or no?
00:09:09.900 Is my prejudice just wrong?
00:09:11.520 Well, join the military and tell me if you think people in the military are normal.
00:09:15.980 Fair enough, fair, fair enough.
00:09:18.160 There's a lot of good people in the military, but there's also a lot of strange ones.
00:09:21.500 It's an eclectic.
00:09:22.620 Yeah, very eclectic.
00:09:23.940 Okay.
00:09:24.460 So then how did you get into it?
00:09:27.080 Well, I have become very dissatisfied with modern religious dogma.
00:09:34.360 And in shamanism, the main thing about shamanism is personal experience.
00:09:40.880 So what is your personal experience of God?
00:09:44.880 What's your personal experience of the spirit world?
00:09:47.480 What is your personal experience of life in general?
00:09:52.580 The interconnection that we all have to nature?
00:09:55.820 How, how, what's your personal experience of nature?
00:09:58.100 What's your personal experience of vibes from people?
00:10:02.380 You know what I'm saying?
00:10:04.120 So it's much more oriented around personal experience.
00:10:07.100 Now, yes, there is tradition.
00:10:08.700 Absolutely.
00:10:09.660 But the tradition is largely there as almost like scaffolding to build up in this personal
00:10:16.000 experience structure of understanding how reality works, works through personal experience.
00:10:22.440 Were you raised with any particular religious tradition?
00:10:24.720 Uh, yeah, my mother tried raising my brothers and I Catholic.
00:10:29.300 And then she thought better of it.
00:10:32.240 You know, I was cradle Catholic.
00:10:34.760 Then I became an atheist for like 10 years.
00:10:37.460 And then I got a little bit hippy dippy on my spiritual thoughts.
00:10:40.960 But then I went back to being Catholic.
00:10:42.680 Now I'm very old school, traditional Latin mass.
00:10:46.100 So it's, I have a, I do have a kind of personal interest in this.
00:10:48.900 You were raised Catholic, didn't take those.
00:10:52.760 So sometime in your childhood, you stopped doing it.
00:10:55.260 When I became a teenager.
00:10:56.820 Teenager, okay.
00:10:57.780 That's kind of the same for me.
00:10:59.120 And then you say, okay, I don't want the traditional stuff.
00:11:01.200 I don't want the rigidity.
00:11:02.600 I want more of a personal experience type religion.
00:11:07.800 Now, is there a tension?
00:11:09.040 Because on the one hand, you say you're, you're really taken with doing your own research,
00:11:15.220 maybe scientific studies on the vaccines.
00:11:18.280 You're asking these questions, applying rigor, applying logic.
00:11:23.060 That's how I would approach religion.
00:11:25.480 Where I'd say, okay, I've got certain spiritual intuitions, but I want to apply rigor.
00:11:29.240 I want to apply logic.
00:11:30.140 I want to apply theology to it.
00:11:32.840 But then when it comes to the religious stuff, you say, no, I, I want to throw off those shackles
00:11:38.980 and that rigidity and I want just a totally personalist kind of relationship to religion.
00:11:47.120 Well, no, no.
00:11:48.840 Part of the reason why I rejected Catholicism is because I did some research and I saw that
00:11:55.800 the modern day Catholic church is a distillation of the ancient Roman empire.
00:12:01.860 And that when the, when Constantine converted to Christianity on his deathbed and he changed
00:12:09.200 the Roman empire from being pagan to being Christian, what they did is they just grafted
00:12:15.300 all the pagan beliefs onto Christianity and they used Christian disciples and Jesus and
00:12:21.140 all this other stuff to replace all of the pagan gods, you know, and all of the pagan
00:12:26.360 statues, but the holidays remained the same.
00:12:30.180 Yeah, I'm, I've heard these arguments.
00:12:34.160 I'm, I'm not as taken with them.
00:12:36.160 I used to, I used to believe that, uh, like the dating of Christmas, for instance, or, or
00:12:40.420 Easter, these sorts of things.
00:12:41.840 I, I, I'm not convinced by that any longer.
00:12:44.300 I think that some of the arguments about, say, the placement of Sol Invictus or Mithras
00:12:48.120 or, or the, the Feast of the Unconquered Sun or whatever, or, you know, um, that I don't
00:12:55.740 think if you look at, say, the chronography of 354, I don't think that one could really
00:12:59.960 argue that those holidays, particularly Sol Invictus predates Christian, uh, Christianity
00:13:05.760 and the dating of Christmas.
00:13:07.020 I think there are stronger arguments for it in the other way.
00:13:10.320 Um, but perhaps I'll be able to convince you on that later on for now, it suffices to
00:13:15.020 say you've, you've followed this more, um, shamanic kind of religious path.
00:13:20.380 Uh, how old are you about this time?
00:13:22.860 Well, when I really started to investigate shamanism, I was about 20 years old, but I
00:13:28.580 had had shamanic experiences since, you know, before I hit puberty.
00:13:34.240 What were those like?
00:13:35.460 Well, I, after watching the movie Jesus of Nazareth at 10 years old during spring break, uh, in
00:13:42.060 1997, I was very inspired, uh, to do my own communion.
00:13:50.940 And so I grabbed a bottle of wine from the cabinet.
00:13:54.500 My parents weren't looking.
00:13:55.380 I grabbed some bread and I blessed the bread and blessed the wine.
00:13:58.600 And, um, I caught a little bit of a buzz cause I kept drinking the wine, but I had a very deep
00:14:02.840 and profound shamanic experience.
00:14:04.320 I felt the presence of God, felt the Holy spirit.
00:14:07.060 It came over me.
00:14:07.860 I was crying a lot, you know, so that was my first real shamanic experience of like
00:14:12.980 mixing, uh, religious ceremony with altered states of consciousness.
00:14:18.800 So that, that was where that started.
00:14:21.360 But, um, then I had, you know, experiences throughout my teenage years where I was, uh,
00:14:26.940 experimenting with cannabis and that really was mind blowing.
00:14:30.800 And I, I had some pretty profound experiences with that, that really answered all the questions
00:14:36.220 that I had ever had about reality and God and who I was, what life was about, what reality was,
00:14:42.580 all of that stuff.
00:14:43.680 But it was all like a download.
00:14:45.580 I couldn't actually articulate it like verbally to anybody.
00:14:48.500 I just understood like intuitively, like instantly how everything fits together.
00:14:53.560 Could you articulate it now?
00:14:54.880 Oh yeah.
00:14:55.800 So what were those insights?
00:14:58.760 So are you familiar with the Fibonacci sequence and the, the spiral?
00:15:03.220 Yeah.
00:15:03.360 Right.
00:15:03.780 Okay.
00:15:04.140 So, and five, the five ratio, golden mean, all of that.
00:15:07.800 Okay.
00:15:08.540 So long and short of it is, is everything is made up of interconnected electromagnetic fields.
00:15:15.400 So everything is a, a, like a hologram of these interconnected electromagnetic fields on
00:15:20.860 different sizes and scales.
00:15:22.220 Each of these different electromagnetic fields is operating based on this spiral of energy from
00:15:28.840 these higher dimensions to the lower dimensions, dispensing larger or smaller amounts of energy
00:15:33.900 to these higher or lower dimensions based on the frequency of energy that each of these
00:15:39.440 electromagnetic fields is based on.
00:15:42.620 Would you describe this as I've heard these sorts of ideas described as a new age?
00:15:49.100 No.
00:15:49.840 And that's, what's interesting about shamanism.
00:15:51.660 And this is the reason why I practice it is because if you look into shamanic culture,
00:15:56.680 all religions are basically practicing different forms of shamanism.
00:15:59.820 So for example, in shamanism, they believe in one unified field, a spirit, a great spirit,
00:16:07.080 collective soul, God, you know, Brahma, Nirvana, whatever you want to call it.
00:16:11.440 Right.
00:16:11.640 They also believe in the idea of prayer and meditation and getting in tune or in sync with
00:16:16.780 this deity, with this, with this divine creator that is one, is one thing.
00:16:21.880 Right.
00:16:22.440 They also believe in the idea of like singing, dancing, music, right.
00:16:27.880 Drumming.
00:16:28.560 Okay.
00:16:29.060 And the use of sound.
00:16:30.580 Right.
00:16:31.100 They also believe in healing, miraculous healing.
00:16:33.420 They also believe in things like sacraments and the use of plants in the ecosystem that
00:16:39.480 are sacramental or, or are, uh, sacred in one way or another.
00:16:43.620 And they use them either as incense or to consume them or whatever, to, uh, get in tune
00:16:49.560 or in touch with God, with great spirit, whatever you want to call it.
00:16:53.600 Um, and they also all believe in the spirit world and this idea of life after death.
00:16:57.580 So what I've just described is every religion on the planet.
00:17:00.940 And so this is why I practice shamanism because it's the first religion.
00:17:05.880 It's the, it's the first, uh, the first, it's the foundation of all religions.
00:17:11.320 But all those religions are, are different.
00:17:13.860 They're distinct.
00:17:14.820 Well, yes and no.
00:17:15.880 When you get down to the shamanic roots of all of them, they all essentially believe in
00:17:19.680 the same thing.
00:17:20.760 They just have different labels and that would make sense considering everybody speaks different
00:17:26.140 languages.
00:17:27.220 Hmm.
00:17:28.100 Okay.
00:17:28.540 I'm a little skeptical of this because, uh, it seems to me the devil's in the details
00:17:32.660 always, you know, there were similarities between, uh, Christianity and Islam, maybe
00:17:38.560 even between Christianity and Buddhism, but it seems to me there are stark differences too.
00:17:42.780 And the view of who God is, God is either part of the world or separate from the world,
00:17:48.980 our relation to him.
00:17:50.420 Uh, so I do wonder if there are some distinctions here, uh, but, but the impulse at the very least
00:17:57.720 in your pull toward shamanism is that it seems to be universalized.
00:18:03.440 Yes.
00:18:03.660 Universal.
00:18:04.240 And, and, and primitive in that it's a kind of proto religion that in your mind, uh, has
00:18:12.020 parts in all of these other religions.
00:18:13.580 Well, but the thing is, is it's really not primitive.
00:18:17.820 And the reason why I say that is because the shamans, they understood quantum physics
00:18:21.740 before quantum physicists did.
00:18:23.440 They understood the rule of sound, uh, the role of sound and the rules of physics long
00:18:29.460 before they were ever discovered, discovered by Western philosophers and physicists.
00:18:33.800 And they, they gained these understandings based on personal experiences.
00:18:40.320 You see now, part of why shamanism is so important to me is because it's about understanding what
00:18:47.340 reality is, how reality works and how it is that we play a role in that reality, like the
00:18:53.380 power of manifestation, for example, or the law of attraction and things of that nature.
00:18:58.100 So, so what is your role?
00:19:00.460 Well, you see, so like I was saying, everything is made up of these, uh,
00:19:03.800 infinitely interconnected electromagnetic fields of different higher, you know, dimensions,
00:19:07.940 times, scales of energy, et cetera.
00:19:10.840 Um, so human beings are like right in the middle between the extremely infinitely small
00:19:17.820 and the extremely infinitely large.
00:19:19.960 And because we're kind of like right in the middle, we're like antenna for what quantum
00:19:24.620 physicists call non-local consciousness.
00:19:26.420 They say that basically consciousness is not produced in the brain through complex neural activity,
00:19:30.700 but rather consciousness is produced in the universe, like the laws of physics.
00:19:35.120 And we are a antenna for that consciousness, for that self-awareness signal that permeates
00:19:41.640 all things.
00:19:43.260 And so our role then becomes one of almost like co-creation that, that it's like reality is
00:19:49.820 like 90, 95% created.
00:19:52.380 And then we have the choice free will to choose which reality we wish to embody based on the
00:20:01.140 cycling of this energy.
00:20:03.080 So if you look into the heart math Institute and the role that frequencies play in our DNA
00:20:08.720 and the activation of antenna on our DNA that send and receive light and information, then
00:20:14.020 you'll realize that these things send and receive light and information with non-local consciousness
00:20:18.420 or this larger unified energetic field that is conscious.
00:20:22.480 God is conscious, right?
00:20:24.500 God's are.
00:20:25.220 So the idea here is that we are a part of this interconnected whole and very similar to how
00:20:31.780 a computer can change things on the internet by changing the code of this cloud of electromagnetic
00:20:37.020 frequencies, right?
00:20:38.940 Changing the code.
00:20:40.540 We as human beings are like computers and it's like this non-local consciousness signal is like
00:20:45.240 Wi-Fi or the internet.
00:20:46.600 And so through our thoughts, through our emotions, through our words, through our actions, we
00:20:52.360 influence the code or the matrix of reality itself.
00:20:57.100 Now, couldn't I just say that I'm a human being and I've got free will and I do something.
00:21:02.900 And when I do something, when I act in the world, that changes the world.
00:21:06.480 Yes.
00:21:07.000 Is that what you just said?
00:21:08.440 Basically.
00:21:09.100 Okay.
00:21:09.480 Okay.
00:21:09.820 So I totally agree with that.
00:21:11.900 And therefore, we do all have roles to play in the world and we have given circumstances,
00:21:16.940 but we can also act on those circumstances.
00:21:18.920 And so you're choosing to act.
00:21:20.820 Of course, politics and political activism is a very specific form of acting in order to
00:21:26.940 change the world.
00:21:27.900 At what point are you drawn to political activism?
00:21:30.520 Well, I consider it more so spiritual activism because the whole reason our socioeconomic
00:21:37.180 and geopolitical systems are so corrupt and so askew is because our spiritual systems are
00:21:45.600 so corrupted and so askew.
00:21:47.480 So our spiritual perspective has been so heavily distorted that it has created a reflection of
00:21:53.640 that distortion in our socioeconomic and geopolitical systems.
00:21:56.680 And that's why we're running into the issue we're running into.
00:22:00.000 If we understood the real nature of reality, then we wouldn't be in the mess that we're
00:22:04.800 in.
00:22:05.060 It's because of our ignorance.
00:22:06.440 It's because of this crisis of consciousness that is here on the planet that everything
00:22:10.960 is so bad.
00:22:12.380 You see?
00:22:12.940 So I'm trying to take the knife out of the hand, not put a bandaid on the wound.
00:22:16.500 I'm a spiritual activist.
00:22:18.060 I'm trying to bring spiritual principles that are founded not only in modern science, but also
00:22:24.080 in ancient traditions and fuse them together so that people can gain a larger, grander understanding
00:22:30.320 of reality and therefore create better socioeconomic and geopolitical systems.
00:22:35.580 So I broadly agree that the political problems are religious and spiritual problems.
00:22:43.800 I disagree in that I don't think it's just a matter of people not possessing sufficient
00:22:48.660 knowledge or consciousness.
00:22:49.800 I suspect that the reason that the world has fallen as it is is because of original
00:22:55.200 sin.
00:22:56.120 And I think that you're totally right that these political systems are just filled with
00:23:00.760 evil.
00:23:01.460 But I think it's because the Christian view is that we're governed by principalities and
00:23:06.400 powers and spiritual wickedness in high places.
00:23:08.780 And the Gnostic view is this view that there's this secret knowledge, that if we just get the
00:23:13.740 secret knowledge, that the knowledge itself and consciousness itself will change things.
00:23:18.100 I take it you're more of the Gnostic view, that there's a kind of a knowledge and a consciousness
00:23:23.440 we have to attain, and then we won't have this evil in the world anymore.
00:23:27.700 Yes, to a certain extent.
00:23:30.260 So look at it like this.
00:23:32.980 All of the capitals in the United States, state capitals and our nation's capital, are
00:23:38.120 all built on electromagnetic ley lines.
00:23:39.880 Are you familiar with ley lines?
00:23:41.280 Not really, no.
00:23:42.080 Okay, so ley lines in the simplest terms are like rivers of electromagnetic energy that
00:23:48.580 run all around the planet.
00:23:50.300 Our planet has an electromagnetic field, right?
00:23:52.460 So these ley lines go and they surround the planet, but they also go all the way down to
00:23:56.400 the core of the planet because that's essentially, they're all one, right?
00:24:00.400 Now, where it is that these ley lines come across the surface of the planet and where they
00:24:05.660 crisscross each other, that's where all these ancient sacred sites like pyramids, obelisks,
00:24:10.100 ancient temples, even medicine wheels in the Native American tradition, that's where it
00:24:14.760 is that they have been placed because these areas are like centers for heightened electromagnetic
00:24:20.780 activity.
00:24:21.940 And there's also the placement for vortexes that are in these ecosystems.
00:24:26.000 And these vortexes govern the balance of the ecosystem based on the distribution of nutrients,
00:24:32.060 water, et cetera, minerals, et cetera.
00:24:33.900 Now, all of our Capitol buildings and Washington, D.C., all of like the Capitol, the White House,
00:24:42.180 the Lincoln Memorial, the Washington Monument, all of these things are built on ley lines.
00:24:46.120 Okay, the Vatican built on ley lines, that also has an obelisk.
00:24:49.340 The London Palace built on ley lines also has an obelisk.
00:24:52.520 Okay, the Pyramid in Giza, the pyramids in China, the pyramids in Mesoamerica, all built
00:24:57.360 on electromagnetic ley lines, right?
00:24:59.100 Now, each of these buildings is writing law, right?
00:25:05.600 What is law?
00:25:06.480 Law is words or code.
00:25:08.660 And that code is dictating our thoughts and our emotions and therefore our behavior based
00:25:13.780 on what we can buy, what we can sell, what is legal, what is illegal, et cetera.
00:25:18.260 Now, if we have a corrupt globalist oligarchy that has infiltrated our system to create laws
00:25:26.420 that favor them, then we have essentially a Trojan horse writing bad code, right?
00:25:32.960 And very similar to how if you get a virus in a computer, that virus in the computer can
00:25:38.640 end up changing the code or the software to where all of the energy within that, that's
00:25:44.000 cycled through that computer gets segued over to one portion of the computer, right?
00:25:49.320 And it slows the computer down dramatically, right?
00:25:51.960 So if we look at the earth like it's a gigantic supercomputer of sorts, and we see these globalist
00:26:00.020 less than one percenters infiltrating the system, affecting the code so that all of our hard
00:26:06.000 work, all of our time, all of our energy, all of our money goes to feed them and they're
00:26:10.320 less than 1%, they're debt-based currencies, they're less, there's 150 corporate international
00:26:17.400 entities, they're corrupt governments, et cetera, then we begin to see how it is that similar
00:26:23.240 to a virus in a computer, all of our time, energy, all of our work, all of our money is
00:26:28.700 going to feed them these less than one percenters.
00:26:31.300 So it's the less than one percenters, these are the globalists.
00:26:37.360 Okay.
00:26:38.260 But it's not just the Democrats, it's not just the...
00:26:40.980 Oh, it's Democrats and Republicans.
00:26:42.860 Okay.
00:26:43.160 Absolutely.
00:26:43.880 Oh yeah, it's a uniparty in DC.
00:26:45.280 But it's also important to understand that what we're talking about here, what's happened
00:26:49.260 here in America has happened all over the world, in all of the countries that have a
00:26:53.220 central banking system, a debt-based currency.
00:26:56.600 Okay.
00:26:57.540 So I'm trying to figure out the timeline here of the obelisks and the ley lines and the nefarious
00:27:06.580 powers.
00:27:08.020 When did it all go bad?
00:27:09.940 Were these institutions ever good?
00:27:11.440 Were they ever just or anything like that?
00:27:14.900 Or was it always bad?
00:27:15.760 When they built the capital in DC, that was already rotten at that point.
00:27:20.060 No.
00:27:20.800 In my opinion, from my reading of history, when it comes to the...
00:27:24.440 So George Washington was a Mason.
00:27:26.960 Yeah.
00:27:27.300 A lot of our founding fathers were Masons.
00:27:30.160 Now, what they were attempting to do was to get away from the attempt to build the new
00:27:34.500 world order in Europe and have that be brought over here to America.
00:27:39.620 Okay.
00:27:40.340 So they were basically given the finger to the globalist elite at the time over in Europe,
00:27:47.480 the crown and the Masons that were over there that were attempting to control all the resources
00:27:52.620 and all the labor in the known world at the time.
00:27:55.540 But they were Freemasons too.
00:27:57.020 Yes.
00:27:57.300 But not all Freemasons are bad.
00:27:59.560 Okay.
00:28:00.040 Okay.
00:28:00.320 So the founders understood the power behind money.
00:28:05.420 They understood the power behind the ley lines.
00:28:07.460 They understood the power behind law.
00:28:09.500 They understood the power behind the government's monopoly on the initiation of force.
00:28:14.280 They also understood the power behind owning and controlling the resources, the labor, and
00:28:20.820 the transportation of those things.
00:28:23.400 Right?
00:28:23.600 So they were trying to create a new system, something that had never been done before.
00:28:28.680 A Greco-Roman democratic republic, a constitutional republic, where the government recognizes God
00:28:36.000 as the ultimate authority and that our rights come from God, not from the government.
00:28:41.480 You see?
00:28:41.800 So in the process, they were creating a system that allowed human beings to practice these
00:28:48.920 God-given freedoms, these God-given rights, these unalienable rights, without government
00:28:53.000 interference.
00:28:54.200 Hence, we get the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, etc.
00:28:57.220 And you don't see that as being just an extension of the English tradition?
00:29:02.240 In England, even with a king, they recognized that God gives us certain rights, that some
00:29:08.880 of these rights are protected in traditions and constitutions, like Magna Carta, say, or
00:29:13.720 beginning with Magna Carta and then coming on through the English common law tradition.
00:29:18.120 Or, I don't know, you're saying it's...
00:29:20.360 So what happens in America is totally different.
00:29:22.560 Well, it's something that's never been done before.
00:29:24.840 But I really do think that the founders messed up in some way, shape, or form because they
00:29:29.960 did not recognize that the Native Americans here were more free than any European could
00:29:34.080 have possibly dreamed of.
00:29:36.040 And so they failed to integrate, like the Iroquois.
00:29:38.380 Are you familiar with the Iroquois and their republic?
00:29:40.240 Yeah.
00:29:40.620 Yeah.
00:29:40.940 So they failed to integrate that kind of a understanding about nature, about symbiosis with
00:29:49.560 other nations, with other people, with other tribes.
00:29:52.560 So the Iroquois were cannibals, right?
00:29:55.700 I mean, the Iroquois, it wasn't all like Pocahontas avatar stuff.
00:29:58.640 Yeah, yeah.
00:29:59.140 Well, here's the thing.
00:30:01.860 There's a lot of misinformation out there regarding Native American tradition.
00:30:07.340 That's just all there is to it.
00:30:09.200 The Native Americans were the first to get screwed over by the feds.
00:30:13.500 Okay?
00:30:13.900 And if the feds are willing to lie about modern American citizens, why wouldn't they be willing
00:30:18.340 to lie for an agenda way back in the day?
00:30:21.820 Um, now, regardless of those lies, let's not throw out the baby with the bathwater here.
00:30:30.480 Okay?
00:30:30.820 The Native American tradition of symbiosis with the environment, the understanding of factoring
00:30:36.640 in the seventh generation, any time that a tribe comes to a crossroads and asking ourselves,
00:30:42.960 how will this decision affect seven generations from now?
00:30:46.520 We don't do that.
00:30:47.860 Yeah, we don't, we don't think seven months into the future.
00:30:50.660 Oh, I know.
00:30:51.500 Seven generations.
00:30:52.220 Exactly.
00:30:53.740 Precisely.
00:30:54.240 Yeah.
00:30:54.700 So that's what I'm doing.
00:30:56.520 I'm thinking centuries ahead.
00:30:58.420 I'm thinking seven generations ahead.
00:31:00.340 And I'm saying to myself, based on where we're at now, if we continue to go down this road,
00:31:05.420 where are we going to be?
00:31:06.180 And this kind of dives into this idea of, uh, my care for the environment, because I have
00:31:13.420 a oneness with nature.
00:31:14.920 So I view nature as an extension of myself.
00:31:18.300 Technically nature is an extension of everybody.
00:31:20.820 You know, we're, we are a piece of nature.
00:31:24.000 I consider myself distinct from the natural environment.
00:31:27.280 I consider myself as the Christian view that the natural environment is here, uh, for me,
00:31:33.700 that I am a steward of these things, uh, and that I am here to serve God and I'm distinct
00:31:38.700 from God in that way.
00:31:40.360 Though, uh, to your point on religion, there is such a thing as sacrament and there is such
00:31:45.800 a thing as communion.
00:31:47.300 So, uh, that's an important aspect too.
00:31:49.900 But, but I guess the, maybe the, the difference in view that we have here is I don't really
00:31:55.720 think we're all just kind of one, you know, I think that we're rather distinct and individual.
00:32:00.960 Well, that's called ego.
00:32:03.900 Yep.
00:32:04.920 Um, and I do everything I can to dissolve that in myself.
00:32:08.520 I'm of the belief that the only way that we can have any sort of an objective view of
00:32:12.820 reality is if we dissolve that ego.
00:32:15.480 Right?
00:32:15.960 So when I've had boundary dissolving experiences, either through meditation, through tattooing,
00:32:21.180 through fasting, through sexual abstinence, or through psychedelic experiences, I have
00:32:25.640 had this feeling and this experience of boundary disillusion.
00:32:30.800 This ego death occurs and the objective reality of interconnectivity is what I'm served, is what
00:32:38.700 God gives to me.
00:32:40.140 And it, this is part of the reason why shamanic practitioners always pray before they do any of
00:32:45.160 these things, why they, it is part of a ceremony where you're, the whole point is to get in
00:32:49.540 touch with God and to dissolve the ego so that these transcendental experiences can be
00:32:55.020 had.
00:32:56.240 Now, in what you're saying about like nature and being separate, if I were to ask you,
00:33:02.040 are you your eyeballs?
00:33:03.600 I'm not.
00:33:03.920 You would say, no, you're not your eyeballs.
00:33:05.040 You're not your fingernails.
00:33:06.220 No.
00:33:06.520 You're not your liver.
00:33:08.120 No.
00:33:08.380 You're not your brain.
00:33:09.480 Right?
00:33:09.900 You're all of these things creating a whole that is greater than the sum of its parts.
00:33:13.640 And crucially, I'm soul as well.
00:33:16.440 Right, right.
00:33:16.940 So physical, but also metaphysical.
00:33:18.580 Yes, absolutely.
00:33:20.400 Okay.
00:33:20.780 So that metaphysical soul, what is that?
00:33:25.740 That it's this, the technical language would be that the soul is the substantial form of
00:33:31.560 the body.
00:33:32.160 So the body is matter.
00:33:33.680 And as you say, it's not, it's not neatly divisible.
00:33:36.280 Like you'd divide a catalytic converter from the other parts of a car.
00:33:39.660 Or it's part of the whole of my body.
00:33:42.620 So, you know, if you kill me, my liver is not going to do a lot of good, at least, you
00:33:46.660 know, after a short period of time.
00:33:48.980 The body is the matter and the soul is the form.
00:33:53.040 And then the together there, they form a hylomorphic unity, which is myself.
00:33:58.780 That's my conception.
00:33:59.580 Okay.
00:34:00.220 So your body is made up of energy.
00:34:02.780 Yeah.
00:34:04.120 If you were to break down every piece of your, your being, you just like, okay, you're made
00:34:08.960 up of atoms.
00:34:09.940 What are atoms made up of quarks, you know, and you keep breaking it down.
00:34:12.700 Eventually you just get to like this quantum foam of energy.
00:34:15.860 Right.
00:34:16.280 I'll take your word for it.
00:34:17.060 Okay.
00:34:17.300 So that means that your soul, your very being, which is interconnected with the body is also
00:34:24.900 made up of energy.
00:34:25.800 It's made up of this pure transcendental, uh, everything stuff.
00:34:31.840 Well, I guess this would be an, another distinction perhaps between our views of the world.
00:34:35.960 I, I don't think that the metaphysical stuff is, uh, can be simplified down to physical stuff.
00:34:44.280 I think they're distinct in the way that, uh, a symbol is distinct from the thing that it
00:34:50.780 symbolizes.
00:34:52.000 I think that you can get all the way down on the physical level to my body and to all the
00:34:56.260 little molecules and atoms and quarks and whatever else is there, but you're not going
00:35:01.160 to find the soul at the physical level because the soul is metaphysical and, and they're joined
00:35:05.780 together in a real way, but not in a way that can be reduced to physicality.
00:35:10.040 Right, right.
00:35:10.440 Well, energy isn't per se physical energy is metaphysical.
00:35:14.120 It is, it is beyond the physical.
00:35:16.200 It is something that transcends physicality because our bodies are a frequency of energy
00:35:22.720 manifesting in a physical form.
00:35:25.080 Right.
00:35:25.740 So the whole reason why I'm bringing that up is this.
00:35:29.940 If you are not your body on its own, if your body isn't just its organs, right.
00:35:37.100 And you are this whole that is greater than the sum of its parts.
00:35:39.980 Then the same forces of creation, the same forces of creation that created your body also
00:35:46.160 created the earth.
00:35:47.080 They created the sun.
00:35:48.520 They created the entire galaxy, the whole universe.
00:35:51.860 Right.
00:35:52.260 So if you are not your eyes or your liver or your fingernails, but you are this whole that
00:35:58.400 is greater than the sum, that also means that you are the sun, you are the earth, you are
00:36:03.400 interconnected to all of these things on an energetic level.
00:36:06.440 And the whole point of these transcendental experiences is to dive into that level where
00:36:11.600 everything is one and to have the experience of bliss.
00:36:15.360 It is a very real bliss to have that experience of bliss as often as possible.
00:36:20.720 What strikes me most about that explanation is the way that you were painted by the media
00:36:24.980 and continue to be painted by the media is that you're a far right, radical extremist.
00:36:30.920 And the same things they say about me, but our views are very, very different on these
00:36:36.420 on these topics.
00:36:37.300 And your description of things, certainly if you'd asked me 10 years ago, I would say this
00:36:42.500 sounds like a far left-wing person, not like a far right-wing person.
00:36:46.360 And maybe you don't have this left label or right label in your own self-conception anyway,
00:36:53.180 but it is striking to me that this sounds kind of lib, and yet you're out there for Donald
00:37:03.360 Trump and for the conservatives and for the Republican Party.
00:37:07.180 Is that, would you describe your political activism as right-wing even, or no?
00:37:12.200 I'm a centrist.
00:37:14.240 Okay, I believe that there are things that the Republicans have that are, or the conservatives
00:37:18.940 have that are right, and that they're just completely off the wall wrong.
00:37:23.960 And it's the same thing with the libs, with the liberals.
00:37:26.820 There's things where I agree with them, but there's other things where I'm like, that's
00:37:29.500 absolutely ludicrous.
00:37:30.860 That's insane.
00:37:31.760 What are some of the examples of these things, for the left or the right?
00:37:34.480 Well, a good example for the right would be their stance on things like cannabis and psychedelic
00:37:39.860 therapy.
00:37:41.120 They think that it's the devil, and I think that's absolutely ludicrous.
00:37:45.440 I don't call it the devil, though.
00:37:46.460 I do say it's the devil's lettuce.
00:37:47.600 Yeah, exactly.
00:37:49.400 It's the devil's lettuce, or it's somehow related to evil, and that's not the case at
00:37:56.020 all.
00:37:57.460 But with the liberals, okay, they're behind the whole thing with psychedelic therapy and
00:38:03.780 cannabis, but then they're also for this idea of giving children hormones and cutting
00:38:08.260 off their genitals before they hit puberty.
00:38:10.740 That's absolutely ludicrous.
00:38:12.320 You know, I'm of the belief when it comes to transgenderism that there's no such thing
00:38:17.560 as transitioning too late, but there is such a thing as transitioning too early.
00:38:21.880 If you want to be whatever you want to be after you have reached adulthood, I don't care.
00:38:27.840 You want to modify your body?
00:38:29.240 I don't care.
00:38:30.200 You should be perfectly allowed to do that.
00:38:32.120 That's part of what freedom's all about.
00:38:33.520 But leave the kids alone.
00:38:37.160 Leave them alone.
00:38:38.760 If you're, for example, if your child identifies as a heroin addict and they're like, oh, you
00:38:45.280 know what?
00:38:46.260 I like the way that guy dresses.
00:38:48.240 I like the way he looks.
00:38:49.180 I like the fact that he's injecting this stuff into his body.
00:38:51.660 I want to try that.
00:38:53.040 Are you going to go out and be like, well, we'll just go get you a heroin kit, Bobby?
00:38:56.440 You know best.
00:38:57.320 You're a kid after all.
00:38:58.340 Okay, you know, oh, you want to drink alcohol?
00:39:01.540 That's fine.
00:39:02.660 You identify as an alcoholic because dad's an alcoholic?
00:39:05.440 Okay, no.
00:39:07.500 Okay, so then, you know, so it's like this.
00:39:10.540 If, according to the liberal perspective, if gender is just a construct, then how and why
00:39:17.620 is it that cutting off somebody's genitals is somehow affirming their gender?
00:39:22.520 Seems to be denying their gender.
00:39:24.060 But my point is, is that there's a lot of logical fallacies in that argument.
00:39:28.380 Just like there's logical fallacies in the arguments that are on the right as well.
00:39:32.000 You know, for example, the death penalty.
00:39:34.460 The conservatives will say, that's a baby in the womb.
00:39:38.900 That's a life.
00:39:39.660 Life is sacred.
00:39:40.740 Don't harm the baby, which I'm all for.
00:39:42.940 Yeah.
00:39:43.360 Okay, totally agree with.
00:39:45.100 But then at the same time, they will go and say that we need to kill inmates and we need
00:39:50.180 to somehow give the government permission to kill its own citizens.
00:39:52.840 I would say that.
00:39:53.980 Well, but I would.
00:39:54.760 In some cases.
00:39:55.220 But look, and I understand why.
00:39:57.240 But here's the thing.
00:39:58.880 There have been a lot of people on death row that have been found to be innocent.
00:40:02.100 Yeah.
00:40:02.680 Okay.
00:40:03.740 And if all it takes for the government to get rid of their opposition is smear them enough
00:40:10.620 and frame them enough to where they end up being executed as innocent people, then we,
00:40:16.220 the very government that we are saying is untrustworthy.
00:40:18.760 We are now trusting to kill its own citizens.
00:40:20.720 I don't know about you.
00:40:23.140 I wouldn't trust the Biden administration with the death penalty.
00:40:26.180 I wouldn't trust the Biden administration to pay the highway.
00:40:28.540 Yeah.
00:40:29.080 So, so, well, then why are we trusting them with the death penalty?
00:40:31.540 Well, I suppose the, the people who support the death penalty, such as myself, or, well,
00:40:37.480 really just anyone who supports any system of law and order.
00:40:39.860 You, you, you just have to have some kind of law and order, I guess.
00:40:44.680 And so if the civil authority is compromised and corrupt and incompetent and all the things
00:40:50.320 that it is, that's a horrible problem and we need to fix it.
00:40:54.220 But you can't do without law.
00:40:57.080 You know, the law being an ordinance of reason for the common good by him who has care of
00:41:02.840 the community.
00:41:03.360 And unfortunately this jerk, Joe Biden has care of the community.
00:41:05.700 So now we've got to deal with that.
00:41:06.860 So there are always going to be those imperfections.
00:41:09.660 Nevertheless, we still have to enforce the law, even if it's being unduly enforced against
00:41:16.160 certain political enemies and political friends are getting off the hook for much more heinous
00:41:20.980 crimes as we're seeing around us today.
00:41:22.860 I'm not advocating for not having law and order.
00:41:25.380 What I'm saying is that it is hypocritical for the conservatives to say that they support
00:41:30.720 life and that all life is precious.
00:41:32.520 And then at the same time...
00:41:33.120 No, we would say innocent life.
00:41:34.680 Okay.
00:41:35.080 Innocent life.
00:41:35.780 Okay.
00:41:37.080 Vengeance is mine, saith the Lord.
00:41:39.020 Yes, but also the civil authority does not bear the sword in vain.
00:41:42.740 But I'm not saying we shouldn't lock these people up if they've committed murder or child
00:41:45.740 rape or whatever.
00:41:46.780 But vengeance is mine, saith the Lord.
00:41:48.240 Why should we lock them up?
00:41:48.960 Because there's a difference between killing somebody and imprisoning them.
00:41:53.040 Yeah.
00:41:53.480 Okay.
00:41:53.740 I know that there's a very large difference between the death penalty and prison.
00:41:57.240 Sure.
00:41:57.540 I've been to prison.
00:41:58.860 So I know the kind of treatment that pedophiles and child rapists get in prison.
00:42:04.980 The death penalty.
00:42:06.120 Well, in some cases, it's the death by a thousand cuts.
00:42:11.580 Because like, for example, there was a dude that was in the prison that I was at where
00:42:16.920 he, his crime was heinous and it was against a child.
00:42:21.540 And he had his ass beat several times on the yard.
00:42:28.600 Okay.
00:42:29.040 And it came out of nowhere each and every time.
00:42:32.360 And a lot of the time, the person that did it would end up leaving the prison.
00:42:35.960 And then somebody new would come and they didn't know his crime until they found it out.
00:42:40.420 And then they wanted to beat his ass.
00:42:42.280 You see what I'm saying?
00:42:43.740 So vengeance is mine, saith the Lord.
00:42:46.360 He couldn't leave that prison because that's one of the only safe places for him.
00:42:52.160 Relatively.
00:42:52.980 Relatively.
00:42:53.580 Exactly.
00:42:54.620 So do you see what I'm trying to say though, about how like, look,
00:42:57.300 if God doesn't take their life, then there's a reason.
00:43:01.900 God can take anybody's life like that.
00:43:04.520 Yep.
00:43:05.140 Right.
00:43:05.440 And if you believe in God, then you believe that.
00:43:07.420 So there has to be a reason why God is not taking the life of these individuals.
00:43:13.020 And should the power that God has not chosen to use be given to the government and our bad
00:43:18.760 judgment, especially if there's a corrupt government that's in place?
00:43:22.680 St.
00:43:23.580 Paul would say yes, but perhaps a point for a later debate.
00:43:27.840 I'm curious about how people reacted to you in the prison.
00:43:33.000 Interesting curiosity.
00:43:35.780 Some of the minority communities for a brief time thought that I was racist because they
00:43:42.040 watched CNN.
00:43:43.220 You know what I mean?
00:43:45.240 But then all it took was five minutes of conversing with me and they realized this guy's not racist
00:43:49.780 at all.
00:43:50.700 This guy's all right.
00:43:51.540 I actually kind of like him.
00:43:53.180 You know?
00:43:54.560 So no one tried to beat you up or anything like that?
00:43:57.200 No.
00:43:57.640 I was there.
00:43:58.260 I was at a prison.
00:44:00.580 The prison I was at, there was a riot.
00:44:02.400 And actually, a lot of the guys that were in the unit that I was in, as I was looking
00:44:06.560 out the window, they're like, Chansley, get away from the window.
00:44:10.340 They see you.
00:44:11.080 They might come in here and pull you out and beat your ass.
00:44:13.720 So get away from the window.
00:44:15.460 Look, there's good people in prison that just made really bad decisions.
00:44:19.600 Of course.
00:44:19.860 But there's also, and anybody that's been to prison will tell you, there's some scumbags.
00:44:23.500 There's some dirtbags.
00:44:24.520 There's some not good people.
00:44:26.020 And they deserve to be in prison.
00:44:28.900 How were you treated by the prison itself?
00:44:31.700 We've read all sorts of stories about January 6th people who had pretty difficult treatment,
00:44:38.420 solitary confinement, that sort of thing.
00:44:40.200 How was your treatment?
00:44:41.700 Well, in D.C., when I was in the D.C. jail or D.C. gulag, that was the first time I ever
00:44:47.720 experienced racism in my entire life.
00:44:51.860 And then after I got moved to Alexandria, Virginia, I was in solitary the whole time.
00:44:57.300 So 10 and a half months.
00:44:58.340 They said it was for COVID.
00:45:00.100 And then they said it was for my protection.
00:45:02.240 But the thing is, is that when they transferred me to other locations, they'll put me in general
00:45:06.380 population.
00:45:07.400 So then that goes right out the window.
00:45:09.560 These reasons go right out the window.
00:45:11.360 I think, personally, that it was more so about trying to break my spirit than it had anything
00:45:16.800 to do with trying to keep me safe or, you know, keeping COVID at a minimum or whatever.
00:45:23.460 You were in solitary confinement for 10 and a half months.
00:45:25.820 10 and a half months.
00:45:27.400 How did you keep any of your wits about you in that time?
00:45:31.420 It seems like torture.
00:45:34.400 God, my shamanic breathing techniques.
00:45:36.940 Prayer, meditation.
00:45:40.700 And that's pretty much it.
00:45:43.120 I mean, I experienced some miraculous things in solitary.
00:45:47.800 A good example would be, so when I was in Florence, Arizona, when I first got arrested,
00:45:52.160 they just arrested me based on misdemeanor charges.
00:45:54.700 Okay.
00:45:55.520 The misdemeanor charge was like trespassing or something?
00:45:58.060 Yeah.
00:45:58.340 You know, parading on Capitol grounds, that kind of stuff.
00:46:01.060 And then about like four or five days in, they slapped me with two felonies.
00:46:07.780 And then the maximum sentence for those two felonies was 25 years total.
00:46:13.560 So as I read, again, I don't know that I should believe any reporting on you or January 6th,
00:46:19.120 but what I read was the felony was obstructing an official proceeding.
00:46:23.760 Yes.
00:46:24.260 And then the other one was like basically rioting.
00:46:26.560 Okay.
00:46:27.220 Which they had no evidence that I was rioting.
00:46:29.360 25 years.
00:46:30.800 As a maximum sentence.
00:46:32.800 So like if I, and the judge that I had when I, you know, pleaded guilty and at my sentencing,
00:46:38.760 I said, you know, I thought I was looking at 20, 25 years in prison.
00:46:41.580 He said, if you would have gone to trial, he said, you did the smart thing.
00:46:45.240 Because if you would have gone to trial, you were looking at something like 20 years.
00:46:48.240 So you avoided trial by pleading guilty.
00:46:51.940 Yes.
00:46:52.860 And apologizing, saying you regretted it.
00:46:56.840 Well, you know, I don't want to go too much into that because of the motion, you know,
00:47:00.600 but long story short, the experience that I had after that, those felonies were slapped
00:47:09.180 on me, right?
00:47:10.440 I'm freaking out.
00:47:11.700 I'm in a cell.
00:47:12.520 I'm freaking out.
00:47:13.080 I'm like, what the hell?
00:47:14.560 You know, God, you know, show me you're with me.
00:47:17.180 Show me that you're hearing my prayers.
00:47:19.200 You know, give me a sign, please.
00:47:20.960 I had, and I had a Bible in my hand.
00:47:22.280 I said, I'm going to, I'm going to close my eyes and I'm going to open this Bible.
00:47:25.360 And I'm going to point to a random verse with my eyes closed.
00:47:27.880 And I need you to speak with me.
00:47:29.420 Tell me you're with me.
00:47:30.600 Tell me that you're, this is going to be okay.
00:47:32.980 So I closed my eyes, I opened the Bible.
00:47:35.020 I point to a random verse.
00:47:36.040 And the verse was, I am yours and you are mine.
00:47:38.820 I have redeemed you and called you by name.
00:47:41.000 Oh, Jacob.
00:47:42.860 Oh yeah.
00:47:43.980 And that just rocked my world.
00:47:45.580 Cause the likelihood, the statistical likelihood that that would happen is so astronomical
00:47:50.600 that my name would be in it of all things.
00:47:53.180 Talking about redeeming me.
00:47:54.360 I'm yours.
00:47:54.900 You are mine.
00:47:55.340 Like, whoa.
00:47:56.900 And there was other things.
00:47:58.000 Like, for example, I'd be in my cell in solitary confinement in Alexandria and I'd be praying
00:48:02.900 and praying and praying during the day.
00:48:04.500 And like, God, like, why, you know, why'd you ask me to go through this?
00:48:10.160 Why'd you ask me to do this?
00:48:11.200 Like, this is so hard.
00:48:12.800 You know, the media is lying, the government's lying and I can't do anything about it.
00:48:16.160 I can't defend myself.
00:48:17.320 Please give me a sign that you're still with me.
00:48:19.580 Give me a sign that not everybody believes this stuff, you know, et cetera.
00:48:23.640 And then that night I would get letters, like a stack of letters.
00:48:26.660 And then I'd read the letters and there'd be biblical verses in those letters that correspond
00:48:30.900 with my prayers.
00:48:31.920 Or there'd be people that are being like, we don't believe anything in the media.
00:48:34.840 We know that what they're saying is a lie and blah, blah, blah, blah.
00:48:38.680 We're supporting you.
00:48:39.680 We're praying for you.
00:48:40.720 All of that stuff.
00:48:42.560 So here's the interesting part.
00:48:45.800 The letters were dated a week prior to my prayer.
00:48:49.280 So people sent the letters out a week before I got them.
00:48:52.560 So that means that God had somebody write a letter a week prior to answer my prayers a
00:48:58.880 week later.
00:48:59.680 That's a notion of providence, right?
00:49:01.820 Divine providence.
00:49:02.740 That is correct.
00:49:03.540 So, wow, that's really beautiful.
00:49:06.380 And it must've been very encouraging.
00:49:08.080 Yes.
00:49:08.480 Well, and then to have Tucker Carlson release his footage three weeks before my release.
00:49:14.220 And there's, it was just enough time for people to be outraged about the fact that I was still
00:49:18.260 in prison.
00:49:18.900 And it was also just enough time to like exonerate me in the court of public opinion before I was
00:49:24.340 released.
00:49:25.740 You see?
00:49:26.860 Coincidentally, I was on his show that night and I didn't know about it.
00:49:30.460 I don't watch cable news.
00:49:31.900 I love Tucker personally, but I just don't, I just don't watch cable news.
00:49:35.260 And I happened to be booked on his show and I was sitting in the green room and I said,
00:49:38.840 what is this?
00:49:40.360 The January 6th tapes?
00:49:41.980 What is this?
00:49:42.400 And so I remember I was watching it in, in this, in the green room as this is airing.
00:49:46.780 I said, oh, a lot of what we were told about January 6th just wasn't true.
00:49:53.140 That the government had withheld a lot of pretty important information.
00:50:00.100 So I get all the post January 6th stuff, or at least I've got now a clearer picture of
00:50:06.280 a lot of it.
00:50:07.500 But what about the days before you go there?
00:50:11.880 What impelled you to go?
00:50:14.740 What did you hope to accomplish?
00:50:16.580 How did you think January 6th was going to turn out?
00:50:19.820 What was the point?
00:50:22.200 Take me through the days and weeks before.
00:50:25.900 Well, I had gone to DC on December 12th for the second MAGA Million March.
00:50:33.100 And there were people around the Capitol building, people around the Supreme Court.
00:50:37.120 Everything was fine.
00:50:38.780 Everything was peaceful.
00:50:39.640 It was all good.
00:50:40.940 You know?
00:50:41.300 So I thought that's what we were going to experience on January 6th.
00:50:45.420 Another peaceful demonstration.
00:50:47.300 Now, this is the other thing.
00:50:48.360 This is another motivation and reason for me going.
00:50:51.400 DC is built on ley lines.
00:50:53.880 Okay?
00:50:54.900 So as a shamanic practitioner and somebody that understands the power of the ley lines,
00:50:59.880 as well as somebody that understands the power of these sacred buildings, et cetera, et cetera.
00:51:04.320 These are sacred sites, essentially.
00:51:06.880 Then if there's going to be a million people or more than a million people in Washington,
00:51:12.260 DC on that day, then it is my duty as a shamanic practitioner to be there, to input
00:51:19.780 into the grid system the most high vibe, positive vibes possible.
00:51:25.420 So you were there to, through your shamanic practice, protect all the people that were
00:51:33.020 showing up.
00:51:33.480 Yes.
00:51:33.940 And the planet as a whole.
00:51:38.560 Because with that much energy, it can become unstable.
00:51:43.940 You know?
00:51:44.620 And that's why I say there's a very good reason why the cops were escorting me around the building.
00:51:49.460 And it wasn't because they thought I was dangerous.
00:51:51.660 It is a little weird that they were walking you in particular around.
00:51:57.900 I can't talk about it.
00:51:59.220 You can't talk about it.
00:51:59.980 All right.
00:52:00.440 I'm not going to.
00:52:01.080 I'm just telling you, like, there's a very good reason why.
00:52:05.100 For both of our parts.
00:52:06.840 And it has nothing to do with being a fed or an actor or whatever.
00:52:10.260 Has nothing to do with that.
00:52:11.780 Has everything to do with the reasons I just gave you for being in DC.
00:52:17.940 I don't think you're a fed or an actor.
00:52:19.880 I know that was kind of floating around for a while.
00:52:23.960 But having talked to you now for, I don't know, 40 minutes or something like that.
00:52:28.280 Yeah.
00:52:28.640 I don't.
00:52:28.940 I never really thought that.
00:52:29.900 But I don't think that.
00:52:31.300 So I.
00:52:31.880 Well, once your case is resolved, I look forward to hearing the.
00:52:35.360 Oh, I want to talk about it.
00:52:37.000 Yeah.
00:52:37.340 I want to talk about it.
00:52:38.540 So you go there for that.
00:52:40.060 Did you go there because you supported Trump or you thought the election was stolen or you.
00:52:46.000 How much did affinity for Trump play a role in that?
00:52:50.040 And and then beyond protecting people and putting out the positive vibes.
00:52:55.920 Did you did you think there would be some conclusion to the January 6th stuff that either he would remain the president or they would send the ballots back to the states or what?
00:53:07.120 Did you have a vision of what would happen as a result of it?
00:53:10.560 Yes and no.
00:53:15.840 So.
00:53:17.520 There's a lot of people that were there because, you know, Trump asked people to show up.
00:53:23.200 Now, look, I support a lot of what Trump has said and done.
00:53:26.040 I don't agree with everything that he said and done.
00:53:27.720 But that doesn't mean that I, you know, I'm going to abandon the man.
00:53:33.320 You know what I mean?
00:53:34.740 Any successful business owner knows that you don't want to have a room full of yes men, you know?
00:53:40.120 So having some sort of a independent thought and critical thinking is not a bad thing.
00:53:46.360 I was.
00:53:47.340 It wasn't just about Trump.
00:53:49.160 OK, and that's what I think a lot of people don't understand about what happened on that day.
00:53:52.840 It wasn't just about Trump in the election.
00:53:56.320 It was about being lied to about JFK for decades by the government and the media.
00:54:03.140 OK, Trump released the autopsy.
00:54:05.300 We now know he was shot by more than one bullet from more than one angle.
00:54:08.220 Do we?
00:54:08.700 Oh, yeah.
00:54:09.220 It's in the autopsy.
00:54:10.320 If I'm not mistaken, Trump declassified JFK's autopsy.
00:54:13.760 And I mean, all you have to do is watch the video.
00:54:16.440 He got shot by more than one bullet from more than one angle.
00:54:19.420 I remember seeing a story come out that the CIA had some pre-existing relationship with Lee Harvey Oswald.
00:54:27.760 And I remember this kind of making it.
00:54:29.600 I didn't look into it too much, so I don't really know anything about that.
00:54:33.040 And then they shot Lee Harvey Oswald.
00:54:35.020 And then the guy Jack Ruby dies in jail.
00:54:37.700 OK, what the hell?
00:54:39.900 OK, so that's part of it.
00:54:42.060 It's also part of it that like the media and the government have been caught in lie after lie after lie after lie.
00:54:48.800 Scandal after scandal after scandal.
00:54:50.760 And then we get things like recent things like weapons of mass destruction lied about weapons of mass destruction just so we can invade Iraq and take the gold and whatever it else was that was there that we wanted, the oil.
00:55:04.040 Well, this was always one of my criticisms of the war in Iraq was I thought we didn't get the oil.
00:55:09.300 I thought at the very least, let's get the oil.
00:55:10.860 I think Trump made that point, too.
00:55:12.600 He said, where was the oil?
00:55:13.580 Well, but the thing is, is that there's soldiers that have come back from Iraq talking about how they were forced to guard oil pipelines, soldiers that came back from Afghanistan talking about how they were guarding poppy fields.
00:55:23.040 And is it just a coincidence that the poppy production, the opium production in Afghanistan went up to the 90 percent of the world's supply of heroin and opium?
00:55:32.380 And then all of a sudden there's an opioid epidemic in the United States and how that coincides with what the British were doing to the Chinese and doping them up during the opium wars so that they could control the people.
00:55:43.500 OK, so like this, this, these are techniques that are ages old.
00:55:46.280 So like we're being lied to over and over again.
00:55:48.860 Operation Fast and Furious.
00:55:51.080 OK, lied to Hillary Clinton.
00:55:53.540 Thirty three thousand emails.
00:55:55.260 OK, Benghazi.
00:55:56.880 No justice whatsoever.
00:55:58.820 No consequence.
00:55:59.400 OK, no consequences.
00:56:01.400 Corrupt justice system.
00:56:03.000 OK, then Trump is vilified over and over and over again after the same media apparatus basically worship him for 30 years and said he's the greatest dude ever.
00:56:12.920 OK, right. Pop culture, media, news media.
00:56:16.860 Right. Right.
00:56:17.400 So there's all of that.
00:56:19.100 And then there's Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia.
00:56:21.380 And the corruption behind all that with the intelligence community, with the DOJ.
00:56:26.540 OK, with the media and then pushing it and pushing it only to find out that it was all lies.
00:56:31.240 It was all BS.
00:56:32.180 And they knew it.
00:56:33.920 They knew it.
00:56:35.320 OK, and then there's covid and locking people in their homes and telling them you are not essential.
00:56:41.340 You are not valuable, basically.
00:56:44.880 Stay at home.
00:56:45.840 We don't need you.
00:56:47.120 And then people lose their homes.
00:56:49.580 People lose their cars.
00:56:50.980 Their kids are hungry.
00:56:53.080 You see what I'm trying to say?
00:56:54.180 And then there's the riots in 2020.
00:56:57.100 And no justice there.
00:56:58.820 Ninety five to ninety percent of the charges filed against those riders were dropped.
00:57:05.020 Now, you look at the numbers, even just Manhattan and the Bronx.
00:57:07.300 The vast majority of these people get off maybe a slap on the wrist, maybe not even a slap on the wrist.
00:57:12.140 Yeah.
00:57:12.440 Yeah.
00:57:12.740 So, OK, so you've got this sense of injustice at not just one politician or support for one politician,
00:57:19.480 but this notion that the established power, the liberal establishment, call it the regime.
00:57:26.460 The uniparty.
00:57:27.260 The uniparty is deeply corrupt.
00:57:30.300 And so you support Trump then because what Trump is just a wrench in the system.
00:57:37.560 I support Trump because some of the things that he did, in particular, trying to end child and human trafficking.
00:57:43.840 That's the modern day slave trade.
00:57:46.120 OK, and there are more slaves now in the world than there ever has been in history.
00:57:51.020 And I think everybody can be against human slavery.
00:57:54.520 OK, so why are we not trying to fight it?
00:57:57.240 Why did Biden rescind that executive order?
00:57:59.320 One of the first things he did about, you know, basically not making child and human trafficking a priority for the DOJ.
00:58:04.500 Why are they taking people that are on terrorism cases, child molestation, molestation cases, murder cases, drug trafficking cases?
00:58:12.840 Why are they taking them off those cases at the FBI and putting them on misdemeanor cases for January 6th?
00:58:17.860 Why?
00:58:18.820 OK, and then so for me, it's like, OK, what would evidence of government corruption look like?
00:58:24.600 Right.
00:58:25.140 10 percent for the big guy, you know, wars in Ukraine, wars in Afghanistan, wars in Iraq, the Iran-Contra scandal, bringing cocaine into the country.
00:58:35.340 You know, the list goes on and on and on.
00:58:40.000 The Franklin cover-up with Lawrence King.
00:58:43.340 Are you familiar with that?
00:58:44.440 Where they were basically raping kids and trafficking drugs and doing satanic rituals in Nebraska?
00:58:50.100 Lawrence King.
00:58:50.940 Oh, yeah, the Franklin cover-up.
00:58:52.100 But John DeCamp wrote a book about it and how it involved Satanism and stuff like that.
00:58:57.980 OK, and so this is what...
00:58:59.340 I do believe that, I don't know about this particular case or anything like that, but I've read enough cases and heard enough credible stories from authorities to acknowledge there is clearly an occult aspect to some of these crimes.
00:59:15.920 That it's not just sex crimes or drug crimes or whatever, but there is an occult aspect to at least a number of them.
00:59:22.300 Yeah, I'm convinced of that.
00:59:23.960 So you're seeing all of this.
00:59:25.900 Now, is this QAnon?
00:59:29.320 I don't know what QAnon is.
00:59:30.600 All I know about QAnon is they say you're a QAnon person and they say that QAnon is a right-wing thing.
00:59:35.960 And the only time I ever hear about it is on CNN.
00:59:38.400 OK, so let's make a very clear distinction between Q and the Q posts or the Q drops and QAnon and the QAnon community.
00:59:47.580 Jacob, I don't know what any of these things are.
00:59:49.800 OK, so let's break this down.
00:59:53.760 Q is a psychological operation.
00:59:56.800 OK.
00:59:57.060 OK.
00:59:58.120 Now, psychological operations are largely based on three factors.
01:00:03.960 Number one is neuro-linguistic programming.
01:00:06.880 That is the use of certain words, linguistics, to program the neurons or the pattern of neurons in the brain, in particular the subconscious portion of the brain, to affect the way that a person consciously perceives reality.
01:00:23.060 OK.
01:00:23.240 Number two, you have something called critical factor bypass.
01:00:28.140 Critical factor bypass is where you saturate the entirety of the environment in the media, newspapers, magazines, television shows, in the corporate world, in banking, you name it, in schools, colleges.
01:00:42.600 You saturate all of them with a very specific message and you repeat it over and over and over and over again.
01:00:49.700 OK.
01:00:49.840 Now, what happens then is that the subconscious mind, because it sees it everywhere, it assumes that it must be true, that this has to be real because it's everywhere in the environment.
01:01:00.620 So, it programs, once again, the subconscious mind to affect the way the conscious mind perceives reality.
01:01:06.020 Now, based on neuro-linguistically programming the individual and mass neuro-linguistically programming the populations through critical factor bypass, why they call it that is because your critical thinking is bypassed because it's programmed in the subconscious brain.
01:01:21.640 That creates something called mass formation hypnosis, OK, where 25 to 30% of the population believes this external stimuli, believes and is programmed by this material.
01:01:35.980 They're just sheep.
01:01:36.900 Sheeple.
01:01:37.500 Sheeple.
01:01:37.960 So, in order for mass formation hypnosis to occur, that 25 to 30% of the population has to gain some sort of heightened level of radicalism where they scream the loudest and then they get a hold of the levers of power, right?
01:01:56.740 Now, when it comes down to stopping this process from happening, all you need is 5% or more of the population to not become hypnotized and say, no, this is ludicrous, you are nuts, we are not doing that.
01:02:14.700 Now, we've seen the effects of mass formation hypnosis, critical factor bypass, and neuro-linguistic programming in Nazi Germany.
01:02:20.840 We saw it with the Bolshevik Revolution in Russia and the USSR.
01:02:24.400 We saw it in the Red Revolution in China and the Chinese Communist Party, OK?
01:02:29.260 So, we've seen the effects of this process, and it is psychological warfare, OK?
01:02:34.960 Now, when it comes to Q and the Q operation, and the reason I say it's a psychological operation is this.
01:02:40.640 This is how it differs.
01:02:42.340 The Operation Mockingbird Media, what I call the Mockingbird Media, Operation Mockingbird, CIA infiltrating the media outlets, right?
01:02:48.300 So, the Mockingbird Media uses the techniques I just laid out to program the populations so that they can use this propaganda to go to war.
01:03:00.380 And then they can transfer public money into private hands, you see?
01:03:05.020 So, it's a whole scheme.
01:03:07.060 It's all about maintaining the status quo.
01:03:08.420 Now, Q, Q is on the internet.
01:03:13.040 It first started on 4chan, then on 8kun.
01:03:15.380 And when I was looking at it from an objective perspective, what I saw was that Q was asking people questions, not giving them answers.
01:03:23.780 What does the Mockingbird Media do?
01:03:25.480 This is what happens.
01:03:26.980 This is what it means.
01:03:28.720 Giving people answers.
01:03:30.220 Neuro-linguistically programming people.
01:03:32.200 How do you dissolve neuro-linguistic programming?
01:03:34.640 How do you dissolve subconscious programming?
01:03:36.340 You ask questions.
01:03:38.380 Isn't that convenient, though?
01:03:40.460 Because if you're asking questions, you can never be proven wrong, right?
01:03:45.220 If I make a prediction and I say, so-and-so is going to win the election, and then so-and-so doesn't win the election, then I look like I don't know what I'm talking about.
01:03:55.120 But if someone calling himself Q just asks questions, then he can always sort of seem like he's right.
01:04:04.780 I understand.
01:04:05.100 You know, it's like Nostradamus or something, right?
01:04:07.260 You know, Nostradamus writes in these riddles, and so now, later on, we can look back in hindsight and say, oh, well, he was really predicting this event or that event.
01:04:16.340 But maybe he was, maybe he wasn't.
01:04:18.260 He was speaking in such an ambiguous way that his predictions could refer to almost anything.
01:04:23.460 Right.
01:04:24.440 That's the objection.
01:04:25.160 Yeah, I understand what you're saying, and you're right to a certain extent.
01:04:27.740 However, this is how I came to these conclusions, that this is a psychological operation by the highest levels of military intelligence and the intelligence community.
01:04:39.620 That Q itself.
01:04:41.340 So Q is this person who's posting questions.
01:04:43.720 I don't think it's a person.
01:04:44.540 I think it's a group.
01:04:45.740 So Q is a group that's posting questions on Fora, like 4chan or this other one.
01:04:51.060 A-Coon, yeah.
01:04:51.540 A-Coon.
01:04:52.740 And you're saying that that is a psyop from the highest levels of government.
01:05:00.360 Or I would say most likely highest levels of the military.
01:05:03.500 Okay.
01:05:03.840 Because military intelligence and the intelligence community tend to work together.
01:05:07.100 True.
01:05:07.240 Now, what led me to that conclusion is the numerical code in the Q drops themselves and the gap code between the time that Trump would tweet something and Q would do a Q drop and what is called the Q clock.
01:05:24.920 Okay.
01:05:25.100 So if you look into cryptology and encrypting information, then you will see that what the Q drops were doing was very, very similar to the way military intelligence communicates.
01:05:36.580 And this is how it is that you're able to communicate a message in plain sight without the enemy knowing what exactly it is that you're saying because it's all encrypted.
01:05:44.900 It's all encoded.
01:05:46.120 Now, the numerical code, if you look at the numerical code and then you line that up with certain other, and you learn the numerical code, you can line it up in a way where these numbers end up creating a much larger message.
01:05:58.220 And it's the same thing with the Q clock.
01:05:59.980 The Q clock is like a regular clock with 12 numbers, right?
01:06:02.820 But above each of the numbers are dates.
01:06:05.360 And each of these dates are different.
01:06:08.460 Now, when you align all of these dates together and then you get all the Q drops that were on that day, then it creates a much larger message that is very interconnected with each other.
01:06:22.000 But each of these dates, each of these drops was on a different day.
01:06:25.140 So it's about spreading out this much larger message that when you put it together, put the puzzle together properly, the message becomes clear.
01:06:32.980 So it's equivalent to military intelligence dumping a massive puzzle on the table of the internet and saying, figure it out.
01:06:39.980 Why are they doing this?
01:06:41.620 So that's a great question.
01:06:43.800 How do you dissolve mass formation hypnosis?
01:06:47.860 You have to get at least 5% or more of the population to reject the programming, the hypnosis, the narrative, right?
01:06:56.520 How you get people to de-neuro-linguistically program themselves.
01:07:01.140 You ask them questions and then they do their own research, right?
01:07:05.740 And then they come to the conclusions on their own.
01:07:08.200 You can't just tell somebody the government's corrupt.
01:07:10.780 You have to show them.
01:07:12.540 And you know who Yuri Bezmanov is?
01:07:14.640 Yes.
01:07:14.960 Okay.
01:07:15.740 The Soviet guy.
01:07:16.800 Yes.
01:07:17.160 And he was a KGB operative in charge of psychological warfare, what they called ideological subversion, right?
01:07:23.260 So think about this.
01:07:24.440 Yuri Bezmanov said that the Soviets and the global communist conspiracy, which he said is very real, okay?
01:07:31.440 And he would know.
01:07:33.060 They infiltrate countries in particular, he was talking about the United States, but all countries through a ideological warfare campaign,
01:07:40.760 a psychological warfare campaign that is broken down into four parts.
01:07:46.400 Demoralization, which takes a full generation, infiltrate the entertainment, infiltrate the schools, the colleges, infiltrate governments, infiltrate the media outlets, etc.
01:07:56.960 Okay?
01:07:57.200 Then indoctrinate or demoralize a whole generation of children.
01:08:03.640 Then, after that, you get destabilization.
01:08:07.200 Now, what ends up happening there is that once that whole generation has been demoralized,
01:08:11.360 then you use the infiltrators that did the demoralization in conjunction with the demoralized generation.
01:08:18.740 And then they destabilize the system.
01:08:22.340 And that takes a couple of years.
01:08:24.340 Then, once the system has been destabilized, that's when you get into the third part, crisis.
01:08:29.520 So then this collapse of the supply chain, the failing of banks, the housing market crash, etc., etc.
01:08:38.000 These are the crisis that occur, right?
01:08:40.920 Then the last part is normalization.
01:08:42.960 And what happens is that during the crisis portion, these infiltrators that did the demoralization, destabilization,
01:08:49.040 they move into positions of power, high-level positions of power.
01:08:52.620 Then they normalize all of this stuff, and they create a communist government.
01:08:57.980 Okay?
01:08:59.560 So, how does this relate to Q?
01:09:01.960 Yeah.
01:09:02.440 Right?
01:09:03.280 How this relates to Q is this.
01:09:05.180 There are entities within our government, within what some people would call the deep state.
01:09:09.540 Okay?
01:09:09.760 The bureaucracy, the intelligence apparatus, military intelligence.
01:09:12.960 That do not want to see the United States of America fall.
01:09:16.760 They do not want a new world order, one world government.
01:09:19.600 They do not want these less than one percenters dictating our lives and the lives of our children.
01:09:24.000 So, the Q operation was done so that this demoralized population, which Yuri Bezmanov said,
01:09:30.840 you could show people in black and white the truth, and they won't believe it because they're so heavily demoralized.
01:09:35.020 You could take them to the concentration camps, and they will not believe it until they're behind the gates.
01:09:39.980 Right?
01:09:40.900 How do you deprogram people?
01:09:42.340 You give them questions, they do their own research, they come to their own conclusions,
01:09:46.680 and they see the government corruption on their own.
01:09:49.480 They see the fences.
01:09:51.100 They see the gates.
01:09:52.900 And they realize the system, then what they have been told is for their security is actually for their enslavement or their imprisonment.
01:10:00.120 And all it takes is five percent.
01:10:02.280 Right?
01:10:02.540 So, we have, in the United States, far more than five percent who can see through the BS.
01:10:08.020 Yeah.
01:10:08.680 Certainly.
01:10:09.260 I mean, if you're defining that as people who know that the media and the government lie to us all the time,
01:10:14.900 it's probably like 65 percent.
01:10:16.700 It seems like a lot of people.
01:10:18.380 Yes.
01:10:18.520 And that's been true for a while, I think.
01:10:20.160 So, why do we need Q?
01:10:23.400 Well, what are the things, and this is also important to understand about psychological warfare operations or psychological operations.
01:10:29.440 The three main things that Q was talking about and that I think are the most important are the fiat, debt-based currency, and the Fed.
01:10:40.400 Okay?
01:10:41.020 Number two, the child trafficking, human trafficking networks, the slave trade.
01:10:47.080 Right?
01:10:47.660 Number three, the government corruption and how it's rooted in these things and how the government is using its monopoly on the initiation of force
01:10:55.540 to enforce this New World Order, One World Government and subjugate anybody that's going to dissent.
01:11:02.420 Right?
01:11:02.820 That's in my opinion.
01:11:04.440 Right?
01:11:04.940 Now, infiltration instead of invasion, according to JFK.
01:11:10.260 That's what we're talking about here.
01:11:11.420 Right?
01:11:11.660 Infiltration instead of invasion.
01:11:12.760 So, if the entities that are running the global governments, the banks, the child trafficking networks, using them to blackmail people through, like, you know,
01:11:20.840 Jeffrey Epstein and stuff like that, control governments, etc.
01:11:23.400 If these individuals are doing all of that, then how is it that you're going to convince enough of the population that this thing is actually happening?
01:11:34.160 They're going to have to look into it themselves and find all the dirt themselves.
01:11:38.120 Right?
01:11:39.020 But that's not...
01:11:42.820 Look at it like this.
01:11:43.580 If those people that are trying to keep all this hidden are trying to stop QAnon or trying to stop Q from doing this, what are they going to do?
01:11:51.200 They're going to create a straw man.
01:11:52.880 QAnon.
01:11:54.240 A right-wing conspiracy theory.
01:11:56.480 Right?
01:11:57.000 That believe that there's reptilian overlords governing the world and all this other stuff.
01:12:01.860 Then they're going to also infiltrate and say JFK Jr. is alive and he's Donald Trump's vice president.
01:12:06.780 Yeah, I saw something about that JFK Jr. has something to do with QAnon.
01:12:10.200 Yeah.
01:12:10.500 But he doesn't?
01:12:11.160 Or that the earth is flat.
01:12:13.580 Okay, so what this is about is these very real concepts of debt-based currency, child trafficking, government collusion, and blackmail, and all that stuff.
01:12:21.260 They become then contaminated by JFK Jr., flat earth, reptilian overlords.
01:12:28.160 And then so anybody that believes this other stuff now gets painted as a kook because the media shines the light on that portion of the population that's infiltrated.
01:12:36.220 And you're saying even the term QAnon is a...
01:12:40.420 It's bullshit.
01:12:40.860 Okay, so then how would you describe your views?
01:12:46.640 You say, I'm not part of QAnon.
01:12:48.900 Well, the media gave me QAnon shaman.
01:12:51.740 Alex Jones, he's the one that called me Q-shaman.
01:12:54.660 Then the media called me the QAnon shaman.
01:12:57.140 And then they started saying, I call myself that.
01:13:00.040 That never happened.
01:13:02.100 Never happened.
01:13:02.960 So, okay, I'm getting a clearer picture of this now.
01:13:07.660 Your claims are much more modest.
01:13:11.020 And I guess the Q people, whatever they would call themselves, their claims are more modest than what I've seen in the headlines where CNN says they believe JFK Jr. is still alive and whatever else.
01:13:22.660 And you're saying, no, we just think that the political order is very corrupt and people are blackmailing each other and there is unaccountable power and there's some weird creepy sex stuff.
01:13:35.540 Obviously, you see Jeffrey Epstein.
01:13:37.620 You know, that's before our very eyes.
01:13:39.400 Okay, so fine.
01:13:41.000 Now I see that this is a much more modest claim than the CNN people tell me.
01:13:45.720 But then what is the claim?
01:13:47.000 I mean, who are these guys?
01:13:48.000 Is it the Illuminati?
01:13:49.000 Is it the lizard people?
01:13:51.420 Is it the CIA?
01:13:52.580 Is it the Soviet communists and Yuri Bezmenov?
01:13:57.540 What is this?
01:13:59.740 Okay.
01:14:00.540 So what we're talking about is something that stretches back all the way into antiquity.
01:14:04.000 Okay, the Canaanite sacrifices to Baal or Moloch of children of men and women, virgins, the Babylonians and their black magic.
01:14:16.020 It goes all the way back to things like Sumer.
01:14:19.100 Okay.
01:14:19.860 And every empire, Sumer, Babylon, Egypt, Persia, Greece, Rome, and currently, you know, the English Empire for a while.
01:14:33.740 And now what's going on in America.
01:14:36.480 All of them have practiced three things in particular to control people.
01:14:40.920 Number one is what's called money magic.
01:14:44.020 Okay.
01:14:44.300 The use of a currency to control the population's minds.
01:14:47.960 So if I convince you that this little coin, this gold coin is more valuable than this fish,
01:14:55.560 I have to use some form of like a spell to convince you.
01:14:58.820 Because you can't eat the gold coin, but you can eat the fish.
01:15:02.520 You see what I'm saying?
01:15:03.420 True, but I could rationally deduce that a monetary system will make it easier for me to trade goods and services.
01:15:12.500 Well, yes, but the point is, is that if that monetary system is owned by a certain person, then they control everybody.
01:15:21.140 Okay?
01:15:21.400 If it is based in debt, then they control everybody.
01:15:24.100 And the whole notion of the currency having value is an illusion.
01:15:27.760 Do you see what I'm trying to say?
01:15:28.880 So that's why I say money magic.
01:15:30.320 Okay.
01:15:30.720 Okay.
01:15:31.360 Because it's based on an illusion and it's based on a generally agreed upon illusion.
01:15:36.600 True.
01:15:36.960 Right?
01:15:37.440 When in all reality, the materials, the resources, the water, the food, those are what's really valuable.
01:15:43.660 Right.
01:15:43.860 And the money just symbolizes that.
01:15:45.240 Yes.
01:15:45.940 Okay.
01:15:46.300 Okay.
01:15:47.260 The next thing is human slavery.
01:15:49.700 Okay.
01:15:50.140 So they have money magic.
01:15:51.120 Then they have human slavery that they use to objectify the individual.
01:15:55.900 Okay.
01:15:56.780 And a lot of the time, it's the people that own the currency that have the slaves.
01:16:00.840 Or the people that have the most of the currency that have the slaves.
01:16:04.140 Right.
01:16:04.900 Now, in our case, we are debt slaves.
01:16:07.020 Yes.
01:16:07.780 But there's more slaves now than there ever has been in human history.
01:16:12.620 Human and child trafficking.
01:16:14.000 It's a modern day slave trade.
01:16:15.620 Right.
01:16:16.020 So that apparatus is being used to control the world because a lot of the same people that are involved in the child and human trafficking trade are also a part of these child sex trafficking rings that are being used by these people that own the monetary system to control governments.
01:16:32.800 Like with Jeffrey Epstein.
01:16:34.380 Okay.
01:16:34.820 Does that make sense?
01:16:36.120 To some degree.
01:16:36.880 The thing that keeps going back and forth, though, is on the one hand, there are these kind of what seem to me relatively modest claims about the corruption of governments.
01:16:46.020 And then on the other hand, this more fantastical kind of claim about like Moloch worshipping.
01:16:54.780 Well, have you seen what's going on in Bohemian Grove?
01:16:57.440 No.
01:16:58.120 You haven't looked at Bohemian Grove?
01:16:59.280 I think I might.
01:16:59.920 Maybe I saw a video clip.
01:17:00.980 Where they're worshipping the owl god Moloch?
01:17:02.100 I did see that.
01:17:02.920 Yeah.
01:17:03.240 The cremation of care.
01:17:04.960 And I mean, dude, Nixon was there.
01:17:08.060 Reagan was there.
01:17:09.480 Kissinger was there.
01:17:10.620 Ford was there.
01:17:11.840 I saw this video and it is really freaky and bizarre.
01:17:15.860 But didn't they, or apologists for this group, didn't they say, oh, it's just kind of a joke.
01:17:21.820 It's kind of a show.
01:17:22.520 It's like summer camp.
01:17:23.440 You know, you do a little, it's like a play, basically.
01:17:25.700 You know, I don't know that I believe that.
01:17:26.840 No, no, no.
01:17:27.800 Here's the thing.
01:17:28.840 I looked into that.
01:17:30.400 Okay.
01:17:30.580 There's testimony of a guy named Zachary King, who is an ex-satanic wizard.
01:17:37.380 Okay.
01:17:37.900 And warlock.
01:17:39.460 And this guy talked about how he did satanic rituals for the people in Bohemian Grove.
01:17:46.000 Okay.
01:17:46.780 He also said he did them inside of abortion clinics.
01:17:50.040 While people, while doctors, these satanic doctors are doing abortions.
01:17:53.060 And literally, basically giving the child's soul to Satan.
01:17:56.320 You can look it up.
01:17:57.020 I believe that.
01:17:57.480 Now, another testimony.
01:17:58.900 There's a kid named, a guy, now he's a man, but at the time, a kid named Paul Bonacci
01:18:03.820 that was trafficked by Lawrence King, the Nebraska Franklin cover-up.
01:18:09.120 He was also trafficked, according to him, in a location where there were massive trees.
01:18:18.260 Bohemian Grove is in the Redwoods.
01:18:21.700 Okay.
01:18:22.080 And the stuff that he talked about that he was forced to participate in is unspeakable.
01:18:28.100 Like, you probably couldn't air it.
01:18:29.500 But it's in my book, One Mind at a Time, A Deep State of Illusion by Jacob Angeli.
01:18:34.340 If you want to check it out, it's on Amazon.
01:18:35.680 It's only $9.99.
01:18:36.580 But the point is, is that his testimony and the stuff that was going on in there is so
01:18:42.820 bad.
01:18:43.480 It's so unspeakable.
01:18:44.820 Now, how does this relate to this idea of a cult, right?
01:18:47.860 And the third portion of the three, you've got the money magic, you've got the slavery,
01:18:52.600 and then you've got human and child sacrifice.
01:18:54.660 This is what has kept humanity in line for a long time.
01:18:57.840 And it has to do with the ley lines, okay?
01:18:59.940 So a lot of these rituals that were being done, these murder rituals and stuff like
01:19:04.900 that, human child sacrifice, were being done in temples or in locations that were built
01:19:10.600 on the ley lines.
01:19:11.540 And then so that really low frequency fear-based emotions and thoughts are being plugged into
01:19:18.200 the grid system of the planet, you see?
01:19:21.320 And those affect our minds, especially when it's done in public like it was.
01:19:26.200 Because then everybody would worry and wonder, is the king going to choose my child?
01:19:30.260 Is the king going to choose my daughter?
01:19:31.780 She's a virgin.
01:19:33.340 You know what I mean?
01:19:34.020 Am I going to be a slave?
01:19:35.260 All it takes is the king pointing at me and saying, that man is my slave now.
01:19:39.320 You see what I'm saying?
01:19:40.800 So it's about controlling, once again, the collective consciousness of humanity, okay?
01:19:46.320 It's about subversion and control.
01:19:48.660 It's about enslavement of the mind and the body.
01:19:53.440 But first it has to be the mind.
01:19:56.040 Now this is where we get into something called full spectrum dominance.
01:19:59.640 Have you ever familiar with that term?
01:20:01.120 No.
01:20:01.260 So it's a military term.
01:20:03.560 So full spectrum dominance means control in particular of the mind, psychological warfare.
01:20:09.320 And therefore, from the mind, you get control of the land, the sea, the air and the airspace,
01:20:14.340 the subterranean, deep underground military bases, extraterrestrial or space, satellites,
01:20:19.100 chemical and biological agents, and technology, cell phones, computers, television, cell phone
01:20:24.840 towers, radio, et cetera.
01:20:26.120 And so these less than one percenters realized that they could not be God, right?
01:20:32.600 But what they could do-
01:20:33.140 So when you say the less than one percenters, you're saying it's not just some modern group.
01:20:37.240 You're saying it's the same group that goes back to ancient Sumer or it's just-
01:20:40.980 Yes.
01:20:41.440 It goes back to just after the Garden of Eden.
01:20:43.680 Same familial lineages.
01:20:45.840 And when you refer to this, you're saying this is just like a cult or-
01:20:53.240 Yes.
01:20:53.520 Well, but see, the thing is that a cult just means hidden from view or unseen.
01:20:59.260 Okay.
01:20:59.700 Okay?
01:21:00.240 And it's referenced to-
01:21:01.800 So when I'm asking you to-
01:21:03.020 Maybe that explains it.
01:21:04.380 Because when I'm asking you to say, okay, but who is it?
01:21:06.000 It's the CIA.
01:21:06.660 It's the Illuminati.
01:21:07.300 What is it?
01:21:07.940 You're saying, no, by definition, the group has to be hidden from view.
01:21:12.240 Well, by definition, a cult just means hidden from view.
01:21:15.840 And these same entities have been doing this for centuries, for millennia.
01:21:20.200 Okay.
01:21:20.460 And it is based on the same familial lineages.
01:21:22.320 For example, the royal family in England is connected to a bunch of royal families in Europe.
01:21:29.000 And they're all descendants or they all have relations to Vlad the Impaler.
01:21:34.740 Dracula.
01:21:36.320 Okay.
01:21:36.580 Now, another example would be how it is that these families, when their empires collapse,
01:21:43.900 say in Sumer, then they move to other places like Babylon, or then they move to Egypt, or
01:21:48.160 then they moved to Persia, or then Greece, and then et cetera, et cetera.
01:21:53.280 The whole point here is that it's the same familial lineages, and it's the same DNA, okay?
01:22:02.060 And they breed within their families.
01:22:04.500 They breed within this very tightly knit group because this tightly knit group is the ones
01:22:09.420 practicing these rituals.
01:22:11.220 And they've been doing it for thousands of years.
01:22:13.320 And when they get initiated into these levels of the occult, which occult means hidden from
01:22:18.740 view, it's like an interdimensional thing.
01:22:21.000 It's like a practicing of evil witchcraft, black magic.
01:22:25.440 Okay?
01:22:25.940 Now, coming back to what I was saying before about the controlling of the mind and the
01:22:33.760 populations, the full-spectrum dominance aspect of all this is this.
01:22:42.500 These less than one percenters knew they could not be God, but they could play God within a
01:22:50.800 system in which they have full-spectrum dominance.
01:22:53.700 You see?
01:22:54.320 Because then they control all of the water, all of the food, all of the air.
01:22:57.780 They control all the resources.
01:22:59.340 They control all the labor.
01:23:00.320 They control the financial system, et cetera, et cetera.
01:23:02.800 Now, the only way they can do that is by controlling our minds first.
01:23:07.060 This is why we're seeing so much censorship.
01:23:09.660 This is why we're seeing these psychological warfare campaigns and this trans pedophile.
01:23:14.540 It's really more of a pedophilia push, sexualizing children, mutilating their generals, taking
01:23:19.080 them from their parents because of the state's authority, et cetera.
01:23:23.100 Okay?
01:23:24.120 It's part of the reason why we're seeing the financial collapses and the mass pollutions
01:23:28.120 like the explosion at the chemical plant in Louisiana or the thing in East Palestine, Ohio,
01:23:34.760 and stuff like that.
01:23:35.380 It's about gaining farmland.
01:23:37.080 It's about full-spectrum dominance.
01:23:39.280 Okay?
01:23:39.780 And I had some...
01:23:40.600 There was a guy on Spaces the other day that was saying that a lot of these train derailments
01:23:44.120 are just so happen...
01:23:45.420 They just so happen to be owned or done by somebody...
01:23:49.540 I think it's a corporation that Bill Gates has a large stock in.
01:23:52.940 And then they end up contaminating farmland that Bill Gates wants to own.
01:23:57.240 You see?
01:23:57.540 So once again, full-spectrum dominance.
01:23:58.960 It's about the food.
01:24:00.180 You see?
01:24:00.520 So presumably, he wouldn't want to poison his own land.
01:24:03.380 No, it's not about poisoning the land.
01:24:05.000 What it's about is getting the farmers off of it.
01:24:08.200 Okay.
01:24:08.880 And then buying it up real cheap.
01:24:10.720 At least that's what this guy on Spaces was saying.
01:24:12.720 I'm not saying...
01:24:13.200 I haven't done the research.
01:24:14.400 The point I'm making, though, is that there are very real strategies for doing this,
01:24:19.660 for gaining and keeping and maintaining full-spectrum dominance.
01:24:23.900 Okay.
01:24:24.040 Now, the only way to defeat it is for us to awaken.
01:24:27.760 This is why I say we have a crisis of consciousness.
01:24:30.480 But so if you're saying, though, that there has been this problem,
01:24:35.320 this sort of evil group of people for all of human history,
01:24:39.140 and they're expressed in the royal families,
01:24:41.940 and they're part of it, and all of these groups going back to ancient Babylon or wherever.
01:24:49.660 Now, if this has always been a problem, then why now?
01:24:54.720 Why is now the Q moment?
01:24:57.540 To me, if you said, well, there's always been this corruption in the political order,
01:25:02.760 I'd say, yeah, there's probably always going to be that corruption
01:25:04.620 until the good Lord comes back again.
01:25:07.520 But until that time, that's how it's going to go.
01:25:12.280 Why show up now and try to retake the civilization?
01:25:17.760 So, are you familiar with the Age of Aquarius?
01:25:23.260 Not really.
01:25:23.720 I know it's from a song.
01:25:25.200 Well, no.
01:25:26.640 This is the dawning and everything.
01:25:28.120 Yes, yes.
01:25:28.700 That's from like hair.
01:25:30.760 Right?
01:25:31.080 Yeah.
01:25:32.180 Well, they are referencing something far more ancient.
01:25:36.420 Okay?
01:25:36.920 What we're talking about is what's called the procession of the equinox.
01:25:39.760 And it's when the constellations align with the rising sun on the equinoxes.
01:25:49.040 Okay?
01:25:50.060 And every 2,160 years, I believe, is a new age.
01:25:56.120 Okay?
01:25:56.660 Where a new constellation aligns with the rising sun during the equinox.
01:26:01.700 We just came out of the Age of Pisces.
01:26:05.020 Okay?
01:26:05.620 I'm a Pisces.
01:26:06.160 You're a Pisces?
01:26:06.800 Okay.
01:26:07.100 My age is gone.
01:26:08.220 Okay.
01:26:09.060 We're past my age.
01:26:09.840 Well, now, the Age of Pisces, fish and water.
01:26:13.980 Right?
01:26:14.920 And we're in the Age of Aquarius, which is the people pouring the water.
01:26:19.600 Okay?
01:26:20.380 So, it's almost like the...
01:26:23.620 Now, this is important, and I'll get back to this whole idea of Pisces and Age of Aquarius.
01:26:28.560 We also just completed a 25,000 or 26,000-year cycle where we went through the whole zodiac.
01:26:35.900 Okay.
01:26:36.380 We completed that whole cycle.
01:26:39.040 Okay?
01:26:40.340 We are also completing what is called the Kali Yuga, which is like a 432,000-year cycle of a bunch of these 25,000-year cycles.
01:26:51.560 Okay?
01:26:51.900 So, remember how I was saying earlier about, like, these cycles of energy from higher dimensions to lower dimensions and all that stuff?
01:26:59.220 Okay?
01:26:59.380 So, what this is about is the dispensing of energy in larger volumes.
01:27:06.840 Here, not just in our galaxy, but in the universe, from the universe to the galaxy, from the galaxy to all the stars in the galaxy, including ours and our planet, all the way down to our bodies.
01:27:19.400 And we're channeling this energy through our DNA, through this feedback loop with the energetic unified field.
01:27:26.300 All right?
01:27:26.560 Now, as the Kali Yuga ends, as this 25,000-year cycle we just went through ends, we're coming into what's called the golden age, where this knowledge that has been hidden, a cult, this knowledge that has been hidden for so long now is revealed.
01:27:42.640 The apocalypse just means lifting the veil or revealing the unseen, lifting the veil during a time of mass deception.
01:27:51.360 So, are we in the apocalypse?
01:27:52.680 We are in the apocalypse.
01:27:53.880 Oh.
01:27:54.320 And it's not a bad thing.
01:27:55.800 Think about it.
01:27:58.420 Right now, it's not that the world is getting worse, because it's always been this bad.
01:28:03.860 What it is, is that the evidence of global corruption or government corruption is becoming so obvious that it's blowing people's minds, and they don't know how to handle it because they're having a cognitive dissonance.
01:28:18.140 Their mind is being changed.
01:28:19.920 So, the apocalypse, while it is something that happens in the world, it is largely something that happens in the mind, because now you're seeing the reality.
01:28:28.400 You're seeing the objective reality, and this is why I practice shamanism, because I've been seeing this reality for over 10 years.
01:28:34.720 So, people say that you showed up in the horn hat to these political rallies, and then the apotheosis of that is January 6th at the Capitol, because you're a revolutionary.
01:28:46.120 But you're saying, no, no, no, I'm not a revolutionary.
01:28:48.660 I'm heralding the apocalypse.
01:28:50.720 Forget about a political revolution.
01:28:52.220 We're talking about the end of time.
01:28:53.920 We're talking about a new age, and I am a evolutionary.
01:28:58.400 I'm going to use that.
01:29:01.840 I'm an evolutionary, not a revolutionary.
01:29:03.500 I want to evolve as an individual and as a society, as a culture, as a race.
01:29:09.080 So, then what happens at every level?
01:29:11.160 Individual, political, social, and cosmic.
01:29:15.860 We're entering this new age.
01:29:17.340 We're in the apocalypse.
01:29:19.400 Energy is everywhere.
01:29:21.200 What does that look like at all three of those levels?
01:29:25.100 Okay, so are you familiar with cymatics?
01:29:27.820 No.
01:29:28.520 Okay, now I'm going to answer your question.
01:29:30.280 So, cymatics is, I'm sure you've seen those videos where they have grains of rice or sand on a plate or a speaker, and then they hit it with sound, and then the pattern changes.
01:29:39.460 Yeah.
01:29:39.780 Okay, that's cymatics.
01:29:40.820 Okay.
01:29:41.020 And you can do the same thing with water molecules, etc.
01:29:44.300 So, the higher the frequency, then the more complex the pattern.
01:29:47.720 And a lot of the time, when the frequency changes from, say, a lower frequency to a higher frequency, there is a very brief period of time in between the transition where there is no pattern.
01:29:58.380 Everything is all chaotic, and then all of a sudden, boom, a new pattern snaps into place, right?
01:30:03.060 So, what we're going through right now from about the 1960s to about 2040, okay?
01:30:10.520 Is this apocalypse, is this transition that is going to take place where the chaos, there is no recognizable pattern because the frequency of the universe itself is transitioning from a lower frequency to a higher frequency, okay?
01:30:27.640 And if you want to look at it like this, human beings are the grains of rice, the earth is the speaker, and the electromagnetic field around the earth is the frequency.
01:30:41.520 And so, we're being moved.
01:30:43.260 Our thoughts, which are interconnected to the electromagnetic spectrum of the planet, our bodies interconnected to the electromagnetic field of the planet, our emotions are connected to the electromagnetic field of the planet.
01:30:54.660 All of these things are going to change.
01:30:56.680 Okay.
01:30:57.380 So, I like this image as a symbol of history because history doesn't just move in a way where one day changes and the next day is a little bit different and it goes on ad infinitum.
01:31:08.420 But, no, there are ages of history, as you describe, and so there can be major cataclysmic changes, and then you get the beads of rice all shaken up, and then a new world order emerges.
01:31:19.680 So, I kind of like that image.
01:31:21.540 But now, what is that going to look like?
01:31:25.640 Individual, political, cosmic.
01:31:27.420 Okay.
01:31:27.860 So, because our thoughts are going to change, because our emotions are going to change, our view of reality is going to change.
01:31:34.400 And that also means, and this is, so, I've seen, I've had shamanic visions of the future.
01:31:41.820 Okay.
01:31:41.960 I knew Barack Obama was going to be president in 2004.
01:31:44.960 And you can ask my family.
01:31:46.440 I was telling everybody.
01:31:47.400 Is it just because he gave that impressive speech at the time?
01:31:49.460 No, no, no, no, no, dude.
01:31:50.700 I'm talking like a shamanic vision.
01:31:53.020 I knew that he was going to be president.
01:31:54.540 I knew he was going to create a caliphate in the Middle East with 10 countries, 10 Islamic countries.
01:31:58.480 Because you can, I mean, you can ask my brother.
01:32:00.960 Okay.
01:32:02.420 I'm telling you.
01:32:03.220 So, I've seen these visions.
01:32:04.800 I've seen things.
01:32:06.380 All right.
01:32:07.140 There's two realities that we can choose.
01:32:10.060 One is the transhumanist reality, where we surrender our God-given rights to these globalists.
01:32:15.840 And we create a race of synthetic humans based on cloning and geoengineering and stuff like that.
01:32:21.880 The planet itself, the pollutants don't stop.
01:32:24.900 They just keep on spreading and spreading and spreading.
01:32:27.100 They bioaccumulate in the system, in the ecosystem.
01:32:30.480 They destroy the water and the air.
01:32:32.040 They destroy the soil.
01:32:33.100 They destroy the food.
01:32:34.500 And then eventually we have a Borg hive mind of AI-controlled synthetic human beings living on a radioactive rock.
01:32:44.060 All right.
01:32:44.700 And we don't have a seventh generation.
01:32:46.800 And the earth goes extinct.
01:32:48.340 Okay.
01:32:48.740 That's one route.
01:32:49.740 The other route is we awaken.
01:32:52.120 We, more than this 5% that say no to the mass formation hypnosis, say no, we're not doing this.
01:32:59.260 We are spiritual beings.
01:33:00.660 We are connected to God.
01:33:02.060 We have God-given rights.
01:33:03.840 You don't get to tell us what to do.
01:33:06.100 This is our planet.
01:33:07.120 And you, sir, do not get to tell us how to live on it, right?
01:33:11.840 And when we do that, we will have organic humanity spiritually ascend, where we get into higher levels of frequency regarding our thoughts and our emotions.
01:33:21.300 These higher levels of frequency mean more information is going to be channeled through our bodies, through our DNA with God and God consciousness, non-local consciousness.
01:33:29.620 Now, what is that massive transformation going to manifest as far as global socioeconomics and geopolitics?
01:33:39.600 Nikola Tesla, in the early 1900s, invented an infinite, free, clean, wireless tower for distributing energy.
01:33:47.680 And it was built on the electromagnetic ley lines.
01:33:50.020 And it amplifies the positive and negative charge on these electromagnetic ley lines to a certain radius around the tower that gives people infinite, free, clean, wireless electricity.
01:34:02.020 Okay?
01:34:02.540 Sign me up.
01:34:03.400 Where do I plug it?
01:34:04.540 Dude, that's the question.
01:34:06.340 Now, why don't people know about this?
01:34:08.500 Because JP Morgan, the Rockefellers, you know, all of the big bankers at the time suppressed this technology because they wanted to make money off of charging people for electricity.
01:34:18.760 They wanted to make money off of oil.
01:34:21.580 You see what I'm saying?
01:34:22.320 They wanted to make money off of owning and controlling, full spectrum dominance, all of the resources and all of the labor in the country and on the planet.
01:34:29.340 Nikola Tesla's invention is the antithesis of that.
01:34:32.380 So what we'll see is we're going to see Tesla towers pop up all over the place.
01:34:38.180 And we're going to see war become obsolete because all of our wars are over resources.
01:34:43.140 So if we make resources infinite, war is obsolete.
01:34:45.120 You don't think people have wars over ideas and culture in addition to resources?
01:34:51.620 The motivation behind all wars are about owning the land and controlling the people and the resources, whether it be gold, water, food, whatever.
01:35:02.600 Okay?
01:35:02.860 You don't think, but like a holy war.
01:35:04.380 I understand what you're saying, but the holy war is over what?
01:35:07.860 The land.
01:35:09.000 I don't know.
01:35:09.520 I think it might be over the religion.
01:35:12.500 Maybe not.
01:35:13.100 Call me naive.
01:35:13.860 But what I'm saying is that the religion is the excuse for the procuring of the land, just like, you know, weapons of mass destruction was the excuse for going in Iraq.
01:35:22.480 But I guess the reason I'm pausing there is your explanation of it is a materialist explanation that our highfalutin ideas about religion and culture and ideology, that's really all a facade to cover up core material interests like oil and money and land and the rest of it.
01:35:42.860 So, so I hear you saying that at one moment, but then at another moment, you're speaking in a way that seems quite immaterial, quite divorced from just money and stuff.
01:35:54.100 And you're talking about vibrations and ideas and God and all these metaphysical things.
01:36:00.180 And so I'm wondering if there's not a contradiction there.
01:36:02.260 Well, no, there's not.
01:36:03.260 And I'll explain why as I unfold in this process of explaining about Tesla Towers and how it is that that's going to transform our consciousness.
01:36:10.020 And then I'll speak to this idea of religious holy wars.
01:36:14.160 So most wars, I would say, all wars are fought over the resources or the land.
01:36:22.120 So if we make resources infinite, war becomes obsolete.
01:36:25.080 We also would make all pollution obsolete because now we have an infinite, free, clean, wireless form of electricity.
01:36:31.680 We don't need a drill for oil.
01:36:32.660 We don't need natural gas.
01:36:33.900 We don't need solar panels polluting the environment with their 50 toxic chemicals.
01:36:37.220 We don't need wind turbines killing birds.
01:36:39.140 And we certainly don't need lithium mining or cobalt mining, which all destroy the environment exponentially.
01:36:44.500 And they create what are called anthropogenic chemicals or forever chemicals that pollute the ecosystem to the point to where they become toxic because of something called bioaccumulation.
01:36:54.980 That bioaccumulation of these anthropogenic chemicals, which do not biodegrade, ends up killing off all the microbiological life in the soil and in the water.
01:37:05.540 Okay.
01:37:06.000 In order for life to exist, there has to be microbiological life in the soil and in the water.
01:37:10.340 Otherwise, we don't grow food and there is no fish.
01:37:12.720 Right.
01:37:13.440 So pollution becomes obsolete because we have an infinite, free, clean, wireless energy.
01:37:18.960 Also, the control over all of our communication towers, the cell phones, the satellites, cell phone towers, computers, internet, Wi-Fi, all that goes out the window because now these Tesla towers can be used to communicate on a global scale.
01:37:29.980 And we don't have to use the globalist-owned centralized grid system.
01:37:33.360 And if you look into Ericsson and the Ericsson Report and the way that they have been responsible for transmitting all the communication in the world and how that stems back to even the transmission of child pornography,
01:37:42.360 military communications and things of that nature, how they're responsible for telling Al-Qaeda and ISIS where American soldiers were and how that led to the death of American soldiers,
01:37:51.680 then you can really see the danger behind centralizing our communication grid.
01:37:55.200 Who did this?
01:37:56.760 The Ericsson.
01:37:57.280 The government did this?
01:37:57.660 The company Ericsson.
01:37:58.940 You haven't heard about the Ericsson Report?
01:38:00.300 No.
01:38:00.900 Look into it.
01:38:02.060 Okay.
01:38:02.340 Ericsson.
01:38:04.220 I would say 93% of the time you say, have you heard about?
01:38:08.140 The answer is going to be no.
01:38:09.260 I do very minimal research on these sorts of things.
01:38:14.640 So Ericsson is a company.
01:38:16.640 International Communications Telecommunication Corporation.
01:38:19.280 Okay.
01:38:20.000 And you're saying they told ISIS where American soldiers are?
01:38:25.580 If I'm not mistaken, that's what the report says.
01:38:28.100 Okay.
01:38:28.940 Okay.
01:38:30.400 So.
01:38:32.180 And they're also responsible for what the report says that they're responsible for the child pornography that's all around the planet.
01:38:40.480 Because they're transmitting.
01:38:42.600 And they know about it.
01:38:43.480 At least that's what the report says according to what it is that I.
01:38:46.220 Now, I'm disoriented because we're zooming in and zooming out.
01:38:50.820 Yeah, I'm sorry.
01:38:51.640 No, but don't apologize.
01:38:53.520 I'm just trying to get a handle on it.
01:38:57.280 And this is part of the Q thing or this is just your own personal?
01:39:01.140 No, dude.
01:39:01.960 Look, Q is a very small part of my story.
01:39:06.760 Yeah.
01:39:07.040 The media tried to make it a big one because then that's how they could create a straw man that they could then smear me and divide the country.
01:39:15.180 Yeah, yeah.
01:39:15.520 When these ideas are very unifying, you know, you said, sign me up, infinite, free, clean, wireless electricity.
01:39:21.300 Sign me up.
01:39:21.980 Right.
01:39:22.620 Everybody can feel that way.
01:39:24.740 Republican and Democrat voters alike.
01:39:26.880 So it will give us infinite, free, clean, wireless electricity, new forms of communication, a new form of communication.
01:39:32.900 And both of these together is going to create economic surplus, right?
01:39:36.960 It will make war obsolete and it can also allow us to purify the environment so we can get rid of the bioengineering, stratospheric aerosol injections and all of the soft metals and barium and aluminum stuff in the atmosphere.
01:39:49.860 We can also use it to help plants grow.
01:39:53.380 So agriculture can be like through the roof because you can use these frequencies to help plants to grow like that.
01:40:00.680 Okay.
01:40:00.880 You can also use it to neutralize pollution through combining these frequencies with bioremediation and fungus that eat radioactive material or eat contaminated soil with like diesel fuel and stuff like that.
01:40:13.760 Okay.
01:40:13.960 What I'm talking about is a real ecological evolution, a real agricultural evolution, a energetic evolution.
01:40:22.140 And so the evolution of our minds is going to manifest as an evolution in technological innovation and as regards to medicine as well.
01:40:31.760 Dr. Reif, that's R-I-F-E, Royal Raymond Reif.
01:40:34.180 In the 1930s, he was working with Nikola Tesla on creating a machine that could destroy disease and viruses and cancer cells and all that stuff with sound and frequency.
01:40:44.460 The way you can destroy a wine glass with sound and frequency, you can destroy disease with sound and frequency.
01:40:50.360 This machine was suppressed.
01:40:52.340 The Rockefellers who own big pharma in the modern pharmaceutical industry and the medical industry, they suppressed it.
01:40:58.120 Just look into Tesla and his story and look into Dr. Reif and his story and what you're going to find are three things.
01:41:05.380 Number one, government corruption at its inception here in the United States in the early 1900s.
01:41:10.300 Number two, you're going to find all of the uses for the devices that these men made, how it could transform agriculture, transform communications, transform energy, transform weather manipulation and purifying ecosystems, how it could change our entire global grid system.
01:41:27.240 And then lastly, and this is the most important part, and this kind of comes back to this idea of bridging the physical and the metaphysical, like what you were talking about.
01:41:38.780 Nikola Tesla said, if you want to understand the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration.
01:41:45.780 In order to understand how Tesla towers work, in order to understand how Dr. Reif and his machine works to cure disease, you have to know and understand energy, frequency and vibration.
01:41:57.760 So as people research this stuff, not only do they uncover government corruption, not only do they see the tools that we could use to free ourselves forever and purify the planet, but they also see the secrets of the universe and they unfold before people.
01:42:10.760 And the bridging between the physical and the metaphysical, how these things come together and how ideologies that are based on separation are also rooted in parasitism and genocide.
01:42:24.260 Say more about that, that last part, that ideology rooted in separation is, has to do with parasitism and genocide.
01:42:36.620 What does that mean?
01:42:37.420 Look at it like this.
01:42:39.100 So in the Amazon, their definition of evil is the idea of investing in this idea of being separate from another person, from the environment, et cetera.
01:42:50.080 That that's where evil comes from.
01:42:51.860 Now, if you look into the work of Philip Zimbardo, the guy that did the Stanford prison experiment.
01:42:57.780 I'm not familiar.
01:42:58.720 Not familiar with it.
01:42:59.280 Oh, dude, you got to look into it.
01:43:00.400 Philip Zimbardo, he did the Stanford prison experiment where it basically discovered that even if it's just college students doing a drill or a play role of your guard, your inmate, there becomes this divide where the guards become abusive and authoritarian and the inmates become combative and revolutionary because of this dynamic, because of these roles, right?
01:43:22.940 Opposing interests and roles.
01:43:24.760 Yes.
01:43:26.080 So he also went on, he was like, I think he was like a psychologist or a psychiatrist.
01:43:32.240 He went on to investigate the origins of evil and the psychology of evil.
01:43:35.880 He did a lecture called the Lucifer effect and the psychology of evil.
01:43:39.680 And what he came to find was that there are three main things really that cause human beings to do evil things.
01:43:46.680 Number one, dehumanization, either of a person or a group.
01:43:51.640 Yeah.
01:43:51.840 So the other, separation, right?
01:43:56.400 Hold on.
01:43:57.120 Haven't you done that with these ancient peoples who are expressed through the British royal family and the Rockefellers and all the terrible people?
01:44:08.100 No, because I don't advocate for their death.
01:44:10.300 But you're separating them.
01:44:11.260 No, no.
01:44:11.920 You're saying they're responsible for all the problems.
01:44:13.720 No, it's similar to identifying the root cause.
01:44:19.100 I'm not saying they're the other.
01:44:20.920 There's a lot of people that want these people's heads.
01:44:23.000 And I've said in a lot of spaces on Twitter that like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
01:44:27.260 That's not the solution.
01:44:28.940 That's not the solution at all.
01:44:30.440 The solution is if God hasn't taken these people's lives, we shouldn't either.
01:44:34.640 We need to, we need to, yes, create and we need to stop this.
01:44:39.080 But the only way to stop what they're doing, which it, what they're doing is based on separation.
01:44:43.300 And because of their belief of separation, they have created a system that is parasitic on the environment and parasitic on human beings.
01:44:50.540 And in the process, they've created mass extinctions of plant species, of animal species, genocide in foreign nations, displacement of whole populations, you know, the human trafficking trade, child sex trafficking.
01:45:03.820 All of these things are based on this illusion of separation.
01:45:07.380 Okay.
01:45:07.560 So I look at them and I say, well, technically they're a part of this unified whole.
01:45:13.300 Okay.
01:45:13.820 And what I'm advocating for is not the destruction of the old system, but making the old system obsolete by creating a new one.
01:45:21.220 And you do that through helping people to understand what happened, why it happened, where it happened, when it happened, and how we can do something so much better, so much more quickly that, seriously, within a couple of months to a couple of years, we would see a whole new planet, a whole new world.
01:45:40.520 So your vision sounds to me like a very optimistic, utopian, some might say, vision of heaven on earth.
01:45:48.660 Yes.
01:45:49.020 Oh, it is going to be heaven on earth.
01:45:50.520 Yeah.
01:45:50.680 This is the apocalypse.
01:45:52.180 We're going to be, we're alive during the most exciting time in human history.
01:45:56.020 This is the time that all the ancients pointed to and said, I want to be alive right there.
01:45:59.300 I want to see what happens there.
01:46:01.960 What if we're not?
01:46:03.640 I say this because, you know, in the Bible, Christ says, nobody knows the day or the hour, not even the son, only the father.
01:46:12.380 Nobody, nobody knows.
01:46:13.540 A lot of people throughout history have thought they were living in the end times and they weren't.
01:46:18.180 So what if we're not?
01:46:19.440 Well, Christ also said, many people throughout history have longed to see and hear what you have seen and heard and have not seen and heard it.
01:46:30.020 Yeah, yes.
01:46:31.740 So he announced, obviously, I say this as a Christian.
01:46:36.240 I see the incarnation and the crucifixion and the resurrection as this heralding in of not only a new age, but as the pivot of history totally.
01:46:46.860 In the year of our Lord, you're saying in this time we're living in between 1960 and 2040, this is the apocalypse and that's why it's all so exciting and that's why I'm wearing my horn hat and that's why there's a million people on DC and that's why we're all getting so excited and energetic.
01:47:06.760 But then I'm saying, well, what if, how are you so sure?
01:47:11.060 Because I've seen it.
01:47:13.440 I've seen it.
01:47:14.460 And so many of my other visions of the future have come true.
01:47:17.600 So, you know, it's a faith walk.
01:47:22.100 And you have to go through the steps to get there.
01:47:25.300 It's not just going to happen.
01:47:26.620 I'm not, I can't just sit back and not do any interviews and not talk about it and not work for it for it to not happen.
01:47:33.140 You have to work for it.
01:47:34.680 But I'm willing to work for it.
01:47:36.040 I hope you are.
01:47:37.220 You know, if you, and this is where like transmitting this vision to others comes into play.
01:47:41.980 So think about it like this, Klaus Schwab is talking about how everybody in the world is going to wear uniforms, live in 15 minute cities and eat bugs.
01:47:52.800 And you got people that are absolutely outraged by that.
01:47:55.400 I'm laughing my rear end off because you, yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:48:00.020 That's going to happen.
01:48:01.420 Good luck with that.
01:48:02.360 I put that guy in a 15 minute city.
01:48:04.140 Not going to happen.
01:48:04.660 Not going to happen.
01:48:05.480 And most people, it's not going to happen.
01:48:08.120 So I laugh at him.
01:48:09.180 I don't get angry at him.
01:48:10.020 Now, the people that are getting angry, what they're allowing them to, allowing Klaus Schwab to do is fill their minds with his vision of the future.
01:48:18.160 And in the process, he's plugging the collective consciousness of humanity with that vision of the future.
01:48:24.140 And he is co-opting our creative abilities, our abilities to manifest and the law of attraction to bring that reality that he wants into this world.
01:48:34.720 Now, you know, you've referred to that manifesting and law of attraction a couple of times.
01:48:39.100 And as I understand it, the idea of manifesting is this idea that I can, through my psychic powers and my will, make things happen in the world.
01:48:50.840 That I can, but not in the sense that, you know, I will for a glass of orange juice and therefore I'm going to go to the fridge and pour the glass of orange juice.
01:48:58.540 But that it's deeper, that I can, in a way, cause the universe to bend, perhaps, to my will.
01:49:05.360 Is that, am I saying that correctly?
01:49:07.480 Kind of.
01:49:08.500 It's a misconception.
01:49:09.880 Okay.
01:49:10.140 So, it actually does have something to do with your ability to go to the fridge and get yourself some orange juice.
01:49:15.340 Okay.
01:49:15.760 Okay.
01:49:16.300 It's think, say, do.
01:49:18.060 So, you think something.
01:49:19.220 So, you have a vision of what you want to do.
01:49:22.200 Right?
01:49:23.000 You think it, which that is a higher level dimension of reality that you are accessing.
01:49:29.180 Okay.
01:49:29.640 Right?
01:49:29.960 Cause you're envisioning yourself doing something.
01:49:31.920 Then you pick up your three-dimensional body, you move it through the fourth dimension of time, and then you make that fifth dimensional reality that you just imagined a three-dimensional reality by pouring yourself some orange juice and drinking it.
01:49:44.640 So, then manifesting is just.
01:49:46.440 Well, no, no, no.
01:49:46.820 There's more to it.
01:49:47.620 Okay.
01:49:47.760 There's more to it.
01:49:48.520 Okay.
01:49:49.420 So, are you familiar with the observer effect in quantum physics?
01:49:52.900 Yes.
01:49:53.140 Okay.
01:49:53.680 It's the idea that a particle.
01:49:57.080 Is also a wave.
01:49:58.320 A possibility.
01:49:59.520 Yeah.
01:49:59.740 And that your observation of such a thing will affect.
01:50:04.200 That is correct.
01:50:04.800 Okay.
01:50:05.200 Schrodinger's cat, you know.
01:50:06.580 Sure.
01:50:08.240 So, look at it like this.
01:50:11.420 The double-slit experiment, the observer effect, all of it plays into something called quantum computation.
01:50:18.980 So, our brain does something called quantum computation.
01:50:21.640 With 40, we're 40 times every single second.
01:50:25.100 We are collapsing the infinite amount of possibilities into a singular actuality.
01:50:30.760 And this is happening.
01:50:31.900 Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
01:50:32.820 40 times every second.
01:50:33.940 Right?
01:50:34.300 And it's kind of like a movie reel.
01:50:36.160 You know, where it's one picture after another, after another, after another, creating a moving image.
01:50:42.860 Okay?
01:50:43.160 Now, what I was saying earlier about the DNA and the sending and receiving of light and information.
01:50:49.860 Right?
01:50:50.440 Our brains, all the way down to our bodies, are sending and receiving light and information.
01:50:55.540 We are an antenna for non-local consciousness.
01:50:57.540 We are sending information, light codes, electromagnetic codes, to the universe.
01:51:03.580 Okay?
01:51:04.100 With our minds.
01:51:05.900 Electricity.
01:51:06.800 An electrical signal.
01:51:08.400 And then, through the magnetic system of the heart, we are manifesting or drawing magnetically to us that reality.
01:51:18.320 The heart is the strongest electromagnetic field in the body.
01:51:21.860 Okay?
01:51:22.080 This is why Christ said, knock and the door will be opened, ask, it shall be given to you, ask and you shall receive.
01:51:28.940 Okay?
01:51:29.340 And basically, you have to be thankful in your prayer.
01:51:32.460 Prayers of gratitude, basically.
01:51:34.220 Be thankful for the Father already knows thy prayer.
01:51:38.560 Right?
01:51:39.480 Yep.
01:51:39.640 So, Christ was teaching people the mysteries of life and manifestation.
01:51:44.600 This is why I'm saying the shamans knew.
01:51:46.520 But so, if manifestation is just, I ask God for something, and then God, in his sovereign will, gives it to me or doesn't, then it doesn't seem any different.
01:51:56.660 No, that's not quite it.
01:51:58.360 What you have to understand is your body is a tool.
01:52:00.560 Okay.
01:52:01.120 Okay?
01:52:01.540 And it's a tool to send and receive electromagnetic signals.
01:52:04.860 Okay.
01:52:05.360 Okay?
01:52:06.060 So, the manifesting is a little different than what a Christian would traditionally think of as a prayer.
01:52:10.840 No, no.
01:52:11.300 No, not at all.
01:52:12.300 Okay.
01:52:12.680 So, it is?
01:52:13.440 It's a form of prayer.
01:52:14.460 But the thing is, is that what we're talking about is conscious prayer and unconscious prayer.
01:52:21.700 Okay?
01:52:22.980 So, are you familiar with the work of Greg Braden?
01:52:26.160 No.
01:52:26.640 He has a book called The Lost Mode of Prayer, where he actually talks very heavily about what Christ talked about and how to pray, and how Christ was an ancient Essene, which is like a cast of the Hebrew castes.
01:52:36.940 I've heard that theory.
01:52:38.220 Okay.
01:52:38.500 Which I don't totally subscribe to.
01:52:39.640 Don't prescribe to.
01:52:40.520 Yeah.
01:52:40.680 Well, I mean, have you heard the theory of John Allegro?
01:52:43.420 No.
01:52:43.620 The guy that wrote The Sacred Mushroom and the Cross?
01:52:45.340 No.
01:52:45.840 And about Jesus eating psychedelic mushrooms?
01:52:48.160 Oh, I have heard that.
01:52:49.240 Yeah.
01:52:49.420 Okay.
01:52:49.540 I certainly don't subscribe to that.
01:52:50.760 Well, I'm sure you don't.
01:52:52.180 But the thing is, I'm telling you, it's true.
01:52:55.180 But anyway, that's either here nor there.
01:52:57.080 The point is, is that what we're talking about here is using the mind and the body like a computer.
01:53:04.620 So when you get on a computer, what's happening is that an electrical charge is going through the conductors in the computer system itself.
01:53:15.640 It's channeling through microchips, which are made of metal, right?
01:53:18.760 And the pattern of energy as it moves through those microchips is governed by software or an algorithm, a mathematical algorithm.
01:53:25.760 And as that feedback loop continues over and over and over again, a very specific pattern gets created, right?
01:53:31.980 Then that pattern ends up manifesting as code on the screen that we are able to then interpret and change based on the strokes of the keyboard and how that affects this pattern of electricity in the hardware.
01:53:45.360 Does that all make sense?
01:53:46.220 Basically, yeah.
01:53:47.720 Okay.
01:53:48.280 So the brain and the body are like that hardware.
01:53:52.880 And non-local consciousness is like that energetic signal that is moving through the mind and the body.
01:53:58.420 And we, because we are interconnected to the whole of everything, to this unified field, through changing our thoughts and our emotions, are therefore changing the pattern of electromagnetic activity in and around our bodies.
01:54:15.780 And therefore, in the ecosystem.
01:54:16.920 Okay.
01:54:17.140 Now I see how, beginning with your premises, I see now I can understand how one would reach that conclusion.
01:54:23.340 And I have to ask, shifting topics a little bit, but related in this way, on interconnection.
01:54:32.240 Did you just come up with this stuff yourself or did you discover this stuff yourself or like, what are your family and friends think about these views?
01:54:41.320 Do they share your views or is it, are you unique in this way?
01:54:45.200 No, for, you know.
01:54:46.340 Yes, they believe some of the things that I believe, my family in particular.
01:54:53.700 They don't have the ability to articulate it the way that I do or memorize it the way that I have.
01:55:00.020 Speaking of interconnectivity, I mean, it's all, it's all quantum entangled.
01:55:07.840 The entire universe is quantum entangled.
01:55:09.860 So this information is at everybody's fingertips.
01:55:13.360 Everybody can get at this level where they have all this information.
01:55:16.660 They know all this data.
01:55:17.800 They experienced things that are hyperdimensional.
01:55:20.040 They've, you know, gone out of body and done astral projection and gone to the sun or whatever, you know, anybody can do it.
01:55:26.000 The question is, is who's brave enough to try?
01:55:30.400 Go to the sun?
01:55:31.700 Oh yeah, dude.
01:55:32.560 Dude, you can travel all over the solar system.
01:55:34.440 You can travel to other star systems, man.
01:55:36.820 How do you do that?
01:55:37.900 Astral projection.
01:55:39.320 Like what we're talking about, it's called bilocation.
01:55:41.920 The government looked into it.
01:55:43.160 They called it remote viewing.
01:55:44.320 They just used it as a weapon to figure out what the heck the Soviets were doing.
01:55:48.260 But you can do it, you can fly into the upper atmosphere of the planet.
01:55:53.260 You can go to the sun.
01:55:54.280 You know, I've walked across the surface of the sun.
01:55:58.060 How was it?
01:55:58.500 How was it?
01:55:59.000 Oh dude, it was freaking awesome.
01:56:01.140 Wasn't as hot as you might think.
01:56:02.500 Wasn't as hot as Phoenix, Arizona today.
01:56:04.540 Yeah, Phoenix is pretty hot.
01:56:05.360 Yeah.
01:56:05.880 You know, I've expanded my consciousness to sizes and scales that most people can't fathom.
01:56:12.720 But that's because I understand the physics of it and I understand the metaphysics of it.
01:56:18.840 I have two reactions to what you've just told me, which seem like they're kind of opposites.
01:56:23.820 One is, there is a concept of bilocation in the Christian tradition and great saints have been able to bilocate.
01:56:34.700 And so, I know there are going to be a lot of people watching this who say, what the hell are they talking about?
01:56:39.120 Bilocation?
01:56:39.600 That's the craziest thing.
01:56:40.380 That's not the craziest thing I've ever heard.
01:56:41.680 I've heard of great saints doing it and I see no reason why our Lord in miraculous ways could make such things happen in the natural world that he created.
01:56:54.320 I have no theological problem with that at all.
01:56:57.160 But then on the flip side of it, how do you know that you did it?
01:57:02.240 You know, couldn't you just have been imagining what the sun was like?
01:57:04.660 Well, here's the thing.
01:57:06.480 Yes and no.
01:57:10.020 There has been a number of synchronicities that have occurred after I've done things like this where I'm just like, that actually happened.
01:57:19.300 I knew what I was experiencing and I had the faith the size of a mustard seed that it was possible.
01:57:24.960 And so, it became a reality for me.
01:57:27.020 What are some of these synchronicities?
01:57:28.260 Oh, like, so, creating storms, lightning storms, thunderstorms, rain, and watching it happen.
01:57:43.760 Dude, like, if I were to tell you, you wouldn't believe me.
01:57:46.440 I have the video evidence.
01:57:47.900 I'm not going to share it just yet.
01:57:49.820 But there's, dude, there's things I've accomplished that are unbelievable.
01:57:53.740 And it's so cool because the thing is, is like, while I'm special, I'm nothing special.
01:57:58.760 You can do these things too.
01:57:59.780 I could teach you how to do them.
01:58:01.340 You just have to have faith the size of a mustard seed to do it.
01:58:05.080 You know?
01:58:05.540 Oh, yeah, dude.
01:58:06.260 Like, I could go on and on and on.
01:58:08.840 I'm writing a book right now, an autobiography.
01:58:11.080 I also have videos about it that are out there, but they got taken down by YouTube when my social media got taken down.
01:58:17.440 And I haven't released them yet because I have all this public, like, you know, recognition now.
01:58:21.920 If I were to come out and say, oh, guess what?
01:58:25.120 You know?
01:58:25.760 They'd be like, that guy is nuts.
01:58:27.440 And I would much rather have people be invested in Tesla Tower technology and Dr. Reif right now than their own ability to buy locate.
01:58:34.800 The reason I ask about the friends and the family is because, you know, maybe they say, look, Jacob, we love you, buddy.
01:58:42.240 But you're completely insane.
01:58:45.040 This is the craziest thing I ever heard.
01:58:46.420 Do they react that way?
01:58:47.200 Or do they buy it?
01:58:49.720 Well, the thing is, is I have family members that have had paranormal experiences, have been in the backyard with me when we've all seen UFOs or UAPs that are completely unexplainable.
01:59:00.240 Um, I have also had family members have very similar experiences to myself regarding, um, deja vus, the predictions of the future.
01:59:09.480 Before we get to deja vu and predictions, I have to, I have a, an issue with my colleague and my friend, Matt Walsh.
01:59:16.300 And we argue, I don't believe in aliens.
01:59:18.280 He believes in aliens.
01:59:19.200 It's the whole thing.
01:59:21.000 You say you've seen UFOs.
01:59:23.240 Is it alien?
01:59:24.080 You believe in aliens or no, they're not aliens.
01:59:26.040 Okay.
01:59:26.320 So look at it like this.
01:59:28.120 Do you believe in angels and demons?
01:59:29.740 Yes.
01:59:30.200 Okay.
01:59:31.120 Angels and demons are interdimensional entities.
01:59:35.020 UFOs or extraterrestrials are interdimensional entities.
01:59:37.940 We are talking about entities that exist in dimensions that are layered on top of our own, but that we don't perceive with our five senses.
01:59:44.780 This is part of the role of the shaman.
01:59:46.580 So you're saying, this is what I say.
01:59:48.600 I say either people are just imagining the alien stuff or they're demons.
01:59:52.600 And you're basically saying that I'm right and Matt Walsh is wrong.
01:59:56.460 No.
01:59:56.800 What I'm saying is that they're angels or demons and you can judge a tree by its fruits.
02:00:01.320 Now think about it.
02:00:02.380 In the Bible, whenever anybody saw an angel, what was one of the first things the angel said?
02:00:06.740 Be not afraid.
02:00:07.620 Be not afraid.
02:00:08.720 Yes, exactly.
02:00:09.320 Because when you experience these things, it is so boundary dissolving.
02:00:12.460 It is so intimidating because it's so interdimensionally incredible that the first inclination is to be afraid, right?
02:00:21.340 An evil interdimensional entity wants people to be afraid because they feed on that, right?
02:00:27.740 An angelic or a positive interdimensional entity is going to say, don't be afraid.
02:00:32.040 It's all good.
02:00:33.380 I'm here to help.
02:00:34.820 But sometimes the Christian view is that demons sometimes disguise themselves as angels of light.
02:00:39.240 So they pretend to be really nice, but they're evil.
02:00:41.780 So, yes, well, you judge a tree by its fruits, vet the spirits, right?
02:00:46.800 You know, test the spirits.
02:00:50.060 An angel is never going to ask you to hurt yourself or somebody else.
02:00:54.820 An angel might ask you to go through something difficult, but there's larger interdimensional implications to that difficult journey.
02:01:03.100 This is why shamans go through ordeals.
02:01:05.200 This is why Christ did the 40 days and 40 nights in the desert.
02:01:08.020 It's why he went through the passion because he understood the interdimensional implications for humanity as a whole for generations to come, for millennia to come behind doing these things and banishing evil from Israel.
02:01:22.800 When 40 days and the 40 nights get behind me, Satan, you know, or the passion and going through that and then rising three days later, which I believe that Christ did rise.
02:01:31.660 But I think it's because he achieved something called rainbow body, which they've talked about in Tibet for a very long time, which is essentially spiritual ascension.
02:01:38.960 Rainbow body?
02:01:39.740 Rainbow body.
02:01:40.480 You can look it up.
02:01:41.660 It's mind-blowing stuff.
02:01:42.820 There's images of people achieving rainbow body inside of a cave, and there are these massive rainbows all over their silhouette.
02:01:50.040 And then outside the cave, there's like footprints or handprints where they've vitrified their prints into stone.
02:01:55.900 You know what vitrification is where rock becomes glass?
02:01:58.880 It gets heated so high that it becomes glass.
02:02:00.900 So, there's also, what happens is that with rainbow body is that rainbows start wafting off of the person's body.
02:02:09.160 And along with those rainbows come the scent of like jasmine and perfumes and like roses and stuff like that.
02:02:14.540 Very pleasant.
02:02:15.140 Sounds like the month of June in Greenwich Village, you know.
02:02:17.860 There's a lot of rainbows, a lot of lavender and perfume coming off people's, but they're not angels.
02:02:21.960 They're not.
02:02:22.600 Well, this has been documented over 100,000 times in Tibet.
02:02:26.180 And what happens is that the body shrinks down to like a Cabbage Patch doll body of ash, right?
02:02:33.280 And then they have these shrines where they like put these beings in these shrines to prove rainbow body exists, that it's real.
02:02:40.840 And then above this Cabbage Patch doll body of ash, you see this person's rainbow body, their soul.
02:02:47.360 They have literally ascended, and they can do whatever they want in the physical world.
02:02:51.100 They have ascended beyond it.
02:02:52.580 And that's why I think that I've heard once that in the Shroud of Turin, that it's not actually blood, but it's actually burn marks.
02:03:01.100 So it's burn marks because he ascended to this level of rainbow body in the Shroud of Turin.
02:03:09.540 And it left radiate.
02:03:10.540 That is, in as much as we have an explanation of the Shroud of Turin, which is the image of what looks like a guy who was tortured and crucified.
02:03:18.720 It's a photographic negative.
02:03:23.240 So it wouldn't be paint.
02:03:24.900 It wouldn't be blood or anything like that.
02:03:26.280 It would be light in a way that's not totally dissimilar from what you're describing.
02:03:31.080 So you believe in the resurrection, but not in the unique resurrection of Christ.
02:03:36.440 You're saying we kind of could all access this by raising our consciousness, and that's part of what you're doing.
02:03:43.840 So then I keep going back and forth here as I hear more about your life and your vision.
02:03:52.420 Because on the one hand, it seems so pie in the sky.
02:03:56.760 On the other hand, it seems so nuts and bolts.
02:04:00.320 It's, you know, I'm going to go to the Capitol on this day, or I'm going to support this candidate over this candidate, or we're going to build this kind of tower, not this kind of tower.
02:04:08.980 But then on the flip side, we're talking about the age of Aquarius and going to visit the sun and rainbow bodies and stuff like that.
02:04:16.600 So in the short term, in the next six months, one year or two, we're coming up on a presidential election.
02:04:24.140 I don't know.
02:04:25.540 What are you after?
02:04:27.220 Well, spiritual ascension, peace, love, unity, freedom, forgiveness, evolutionary progress, you know, for humanity, for the planet, saving humanity, and saving the planet in all life thereon.
02:04:47.100 That's what I'm after.
02:04:48.480 Yeah, but what else?
02:04:49.280 Saving the seventh generation.
02:04:50.620 Okay, because that is very much in jeopardy right now.
02:04:55.860 Not just our own seventh generation, but all over the planet, all species, plant, animal, fungus, amphibian, insect alike.
02:05:04.060 And so how will you do it?
02:05:05.240 You'll write books.
02:05:07.420 You'll give media interviews like this one.
02:05:10.680 I think this is your first sit-down.
02:05:12.740 Big, big, big one.
02:05:13.540 The first big one since you've gotten out of jail.
02:05:15.580 So will you, are you supporting one candidate over another candidate politically?
02:05:21.420 Well, I don't much like Ron DeSantis, to be honest with you.
02:05:25.240 There's a number of things that he's done that I just don't agree with.
02:05:28.360 There's also a number of things that Trump has done I don't agree with, but I support Trump for many reasons.
02:05:34.140 You know, I'll put it this way, though.
02:05:37.600 I don't think any candidate right now is saying what truly needs to be said.
02:05:42.580 What needs to be said?
02:05:45.580 Well, that's quite another conversation entirely.
02:05:48.140 It's a, um, what needs to be said is not the rah, rah, rah talking points.
02:05:56.140 We've got to secure the border.
02:05:57.760 You know, the Biden administration is a travesty.
02:06:00.560 We need to get our economy back on track.
02:06:02.940 I mean, Mike Pence is like a great example of a rah, rah, rah, rhino Republican.
02:06:09.360 Like the interview we did with Tucker Carlson, it's like, God, I can't believe he's actually running.
02:06:14.620 It was tough.
02:06:16.020 Yeah, it's cringe.
02:06:18.000 You know, um, so all of, even, even God lover, even Carrie Lake, they're all kind of saying the same stuff.
02:06:26.600 Nobody's explaining how it is that we got here.
02:06:30.800 Nobody's explaining how it is that we're going to move forward.
02:06:33.700 Nobody's thinking centuries ahead.
02:06:35.580 Everybody's talking about two years from now or a year and a half from now, the next election.
02:06:40.140 It's like, bro, if we learned anything from the Trump administration, four years of having one of our guys in office is not enough.
02:06:46.300 And it's, it's a fourth of the problem.
02:06:48.480 So let's talk about that.
02:06:49.860 The bureaucracy, the deep state, the deep state is comprised of all three branches of government, legislative, judicial, and executive being consolidated into a single branch of government that is constituting a fourth branch of government.
02:07:06.060 It's a bureaucracy.
02:07:06.740 And this is what the founders defined as tyranny.
02:07:10.120 That's why they split the branches up because the crown owned judicial, legislative, and executive.
02:07:15.180 They could write the laws, enforce the laws, and adjudicate the laws.
02:07:18.600 Okay.
02:07:18.820 That was tyranny.
02:07:19.860 That's why the founders split it up and had checks and balances.
02:07:22.460 Okay.
02:07:22.600 The bureaucracy, these bureaucratic agencies, which there are over 500 of them that are in charge with regulating commerce.
02:07:30.600 Okay.
02:07:31.040 They write the regulations for commerce.
02:07:34.020 In other words, they're writing a form of law.
02:07:36.300 Okay.
02:07:36.800 And then they have their own law enforcement for their agency that enforce those regulations.
02:07:42.120 So that's executive.
02:07:43.600 So now you got legislative, you got executive, and they have their own administrative courts that are outside of the federal court system.
02:07:49.620 That's judicial.
02:07:50.860 That's tyranny.
02:07:51.820 Okay.
02:07:52.600 Okay.
02:07:53.240 That is, and it's these bureaucrats and these bureaucratic agencies that are colluding with corporate interest, international corporate interest, international banking interests to move money from public hands into private hands.
02:08:06.780 So I agree that most candidates are just talking about fairly superficial quotidian kind of things and not getting to deeper problems.
02:08:15.520 But when it comes to the bureaucracy and this issue of unelected, unaccountable people writing most of the laws, I think most of the GOP candidates actually are kind of mentioning it at the very least.
02:08:26.400 But they're not explaining it.
02:08:27.740 DeSantis, yeah.
02:08:28.360 They're not explaining it, are they?
02:08:30.220 No, they're just saying the deep state.
02:08:31.800 We got to drain the swamp.
02:08:32.760 Yeah, that's the deep state.
02:08:33.920 Oh, it's a deep state.
02:08:34.540 It's the boogeyman, basically.
02:08:35.940 And it's like, well, unless you understand the root of the problem.
02:08:38.620 And if you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it fully.
02:08:41.340 So these people need to explain simply, if they expect people to believe they can solve the problem, they need to explain simply what the problem is.
02:08:48.200 And nobody's done that yet that I can see.
02:08:51.080 Okay.
02:08:51.520 I just explained it to you in two and a half minutes.
02:08:54.960 Okay.
02:08:55.400 And I can also explain to you how we can change it in two and a half minutes.
02:08:59.100 Okay.
02:08:59.360 All you have to do is get enough people in the legislative branch to create legislation that either changes or defunds these bureaucratic agencies.
02:09:11.340 Simple as that.
02:09:13.920 And so that means you have to have somebody in the White House that is in agreement with that agenda.
02:09:18.000 And you have to have somebody in the legislative branch, enough people in the legislative branch that are for that agenda.
02:09:23.560 That see the problem and want to fix it.
02:09:26.760 But the thing is, is that the people that are in D.C. that are representing the people are actually representing these corporations that are working with the bureaucracy.
02:09:36.200 They're representing the banks that are working with the bureaucracy and the Fed.
02:09:40.580 You see what I'm saying?
02:09:41.840 So getting Trump in office in 2024 is only a fourth of the problem.
02:09:47.700 Because if we don't have the Congress, then we don't have anything.
02:09:50.960 It's a stalemate.
02:09:52.160 And if we have the Congress and the White House, okay, that's cool.
02:09:56.760 But how many people in the Congress are willing to dismantle the corrupt bureaucracy?
02:10:01.180 Now, it's not all about defunding these agencies.
02:10:04.200 A lot of it, what it's about is restructuring them.
02:10:07.260 Getting people like Fauci out and putting somebody in that isn't going to stand in the way of things like cures for cancer.
02:10:14.060 Isn't going to take all this public money and put it in the private hands of the pharmaceutical companies.
02:10:18.480 You see?
02:10:19.020 And that's across the board is that there's people like Fauci in every single administrative bureaucratic agent.
02:10:26.540 So would you run for office?
02:10:29.040 You know, Gandhi never ran for office and he did a lot of good.
02:10:32.600 I don't like the idea of having to do all that paperwork.
02:10:37.260 You know, they make it difficult on purpose.
02:10:39.360 You also, if you're going to run for like president or something, you need to like spend like, I think it's like a hundred grand to apply or something like that.
02:10:45.780 It's expensive.
02:10:46.280 Yeah.
02:10:46.540 And I don't have that kind of money.
02:10:48.620 You know, I don't.
02:10:49.780 So what I want to do is I want to hold the people that are running accountable.
02:10:54.980 And if they can't say what it is that I'm saying, then that is contrasting their legitimacy.
02:11:02.220 If somebody that's wearing horns and face paint can understand the problems of the world and explain them more simply than somebody that's running for president, we have a problem.
02:11:11.880 I agree.
02:11:13.300 That would represent a major problem.
02:11:15.720 Jacob, it has been a great pleasure to get to me.
02:11:19.660 The pleasure has been mine.
02:11:20.520 Thank you.
02:11:21.200 Thank you.
02:11:21.540 For sitting down.
02:11:23.400 Best of luck in all of your future endeavors.
02:11:25.300 And I suppose we'll look forward to part two when you can speak more openly after this motion resolves itself, hopefully, happily.
02:11:35.400 Thank you.
02:11:36.060 Thank you, Jay.
02:11:36.600 God bless.
02:11:36.960 We'll be right back.