The Michael Knowles Show - Presidential Election 2020 LIVE ｜ Full Coverage

00:00:00.000 Hey, Michael Knowles here. What will happen in the election? Well, we have got you covered.

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00:00:30.000 Well, here we are. The day the Mayans warned us about election night 2020. It's the Super Bowl,

00:00:47.920 the World Series and the whatever the heck soccer calls it all rolled into one. Will Donald Trump

00:00:52.360 pull off another upset? Did the media do enough to get an old man in his basement elected to the 0.50

00:00:56.300 highest office in the world? Do any of us have any idea whatsoever what's going to happen?

00:01:01.780 No, I'm serious, guys. Does anybody know what's going to happen?

00:01:04.120 No, not me. Yes. Really? No.

00:01:09.340 Unbelievable, this guy. So there it is. The kind of profound and prescient political analysis people

00:01:13.720 have come to expect from us. My God, it's going to be a long night. The first polls close in just

00:01:19.180 under one hour. And no matter what happens, I think what couldn't be more clear is that the

00:01:23.180 establishment media and social media have utterly failed in their basic responsibilities.

00:01:27.540 We're going to devote some of the many, many, many hours that we'll be together tonight

00:01:31.460 discussing that problem and discussing what we can do about it. But the first thing you can do,

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00:02:19.380 is going to be bigger and better than anything we've ever staged before at the Daily Wire.

00:02:23.880 We're going to have killer guests all night from Candace Owens to Megyn Kelly, Stephen Crowder, 0.97

00:02:28.380 Dave Rubin, Glenn Beck, more. But we've also set up a war room to bring you the most up-to-date

00:02:33.840 numbers, analysis, and social reactions throughout, well, throughout Armageddon,

00:02:39.100 which is what we're facing tonight. To tell you how all that is going to work,

00:02:42.780 I'm going to kick it over to the brilliant Alicia Krauss. Yes, I said the brilliant Alicia Krauss,

00:02:47.960 because my attorneys credibly informed me I can no longer call her lovely without getting her to

00:02:52.600 first sign a waiver. Alicia, tell us how the war room is going to work. I hope I look pretty lovely

00:02:56.920 tonight and I know that I have other lovely people here with me and we're going to be bringing you

00:03:01.260 hard-hitting brand new news information and data all throughout the night, including what people on

00:03:07.240 social media are saying with a very familiar face of the Daily Wire audience, Cassie Dillon.

00:03:11.960 Hi, so I'll be on Twitter all night long watching the reactions, maybe some meltdowns later.

00:03:17.040 We'll see what happens, but I'll be watching what you guys are saying. So if you want to get

00:03:21.020 involved, tweet at us at Real Daily Wire and I'll be here keeping you updated.

00:03:26.000 So it's election night and next, the other thing that we have happening in the war room is we're

00:03:30.060 going to go to Daily Wire's editor-in-chief, John Bickley. John, explain what's going on in this

00:03:35.360 actual physical war room that's behind you.

00:03:37.860 Gorgeously asked. Thank you very much. We've got the war room behind us. This is where we're crunching

00:03:42.860 the numbers, getting the most recent data, all the updates on the election, feeding it out to you

00:03:47.380 guys through live feed and on the website. So we're trying to just keep you up to date. You can stay

00:03:52.940 with us the whole night. Don't have to worry about you're missing something. No, we've got it. We're

00:03:56.980 on it. Editorial staff is on the ball. So that's what we're doing in there.

00:04:01.340 So let's take a walk over here and see what we need to be looking for.

00:04:04.500 Yep.

00:04:04.740 So let's show this is another continuation of our war room. We have the data entry happening over here.

00:04:09.400 And like you said, it's going to be cohesive. So people are watching the stream, hopefully on

00:04:13.120 dailywire.com and then also checking out the homepage. Our team of hardworking people in there

00:04:18.760 is going to be updating this map throughout the night.

00:04:20.980 Right. So we have this interactive map here. No, I'm just kidding. It's not interactive.

00:04:24.440 So we've got this map here that is laying out the scene. We thought about the best way. How do you

00:04:30.940 explain to people what are we looking for tonight? We should start with 2016. This is how Trump won it

00:04:36.700 and shocked everyone. He totaled over 300 electoral votes. How did he do it? He won 10

00:04:42.420 of the 12 battleground states. No one saw this coming at all. No one anticipated it. And no one's

00:04:47.440 actually predicting he will do that this year. He doesn't need to do it this year. He needs to get

00:04:52.300 over 270. To do that, we've looked at it, looked at all the latest polling in the last week. There's

00:04:57.940 been major movements actually in the poll, which we'll highlight later. He needs to win seven of the

00:05:03.680 12 battleground states. So the 12, the seven to watch out of the 12 are Florida, Texas, both must

00:05:10.620 wins, Georgia, North Carolina, Ohio, Arizona, and Pennsylvania. So we're going to especially focus

00:05:19.200 on those. Pennsylvania has become a major focal point for both campaigns. We'll keep you up to

00:05:24.720 date on that and be watching these razor thin margins for these races. This, you know, it could

00:05:30.560 be a long night, like we said, and it might be a long couple of weeks, but we're going to keep

00:05:34.820 you up to date on it. So, and in this scenario, what are you paying attention to? Right. So we're

00:05:42.460 looking at, we're comparing results, the early results from 2016, looking at how it's playing

00:05:48.420 out in the different states. Florida is the first to watch. Got it. Georgia closes next. We're watching

00:05:54.700 those very carefully. Those are super tight. They're within one, uh, uh, the margin of error

00:05:59.920 of one. Wow. Um, in terms of the polling, same with North Carolina, Texas is getting close to that

00:06:06.160 Ohio and Pennsylvania, Pennsylvania, all of them within two. Okay. So it's going to be tight. So

00:06:12.360 we're going to watch them in the order that they close and be updating and be updating the audience

00:06:16.860 as we get information, be updating the guys on their set over there. And of course, I'll still be

00:06:21.520 taking subscriber questions, member questions, which we love and to hear from the audience.

00:06:25.860 So we have a lot happening over here. It's going to be really interesting, hard hitting news,

00:06:30.760 lots of data, and you guys can just, you know, chat and smoke cigars or something.

00:06:36.220 Beautiful. That's essentially all we're good for is chatting and smoking cigars. Guys,

00:06:41.880 looking ahead at the night, we agreed no predictions, which I think is sound. Uh, everybody all day keeps

00:06:47.080 texting me and asking me for predictions. That's what people want. I think when they talk to us,

00:06:50.640 but my, my experience with this is the only prediction you can win is if you say Trump is

00:06:56.460 going to win 40 States and then Trump wins 40 States. If that happens, you are a genius,

00:07:01.200 but it's a high risk, a high risk ambit. Every other play only makes us look like we're bad at

00:07:06.580 our job. So we're not here to tell you what's going to happen. We're here to tell you what's

00:07:09.180 happening and what it means. We're here to talk about the stakes, uh, of the night, because I think

00:07:14.460 the stakes are as high as they've been in any election, probably in modern memory. It's funny.

00:07:19.080 Everybody says every election is the most consequential election of our lifetime. Part

00:07:22.960 of that of course is hyperbole. Part of it is, uh, the, the sort of bias of the now. Um, but part

00:07:28.180 of it is because as the government intrudes further and further and further into our lives,

00:07:32.360 the actual stakes do ratchet in one direction. It's very hard to ever get that ratchet to go

00:07:37.500 bad. I mean, that's the thing about a ratchet. It doesn't go the other way. So very important

00:07:41.300 night. We're going to help people contextualize that. Uh, let's start just by talking about the

00:07:45.860 stakes here together. Drew, what are we facing tonight? What does it mean?

00:07:49.500 Well, I think before we even get to policy, I think you have to talk about culture because

00:07:54.640 culture is where the future fights are going to be won and lost. And one of the things we have seen

00:07:59.840 is we have seen a news media that has wholly corrupted itself. This is a, the legacy news media,

00:08:06.380 which has just all in for one candidate to the point of actually blockading reasonable news

00:08:13.040 after three and a half years of selling us a Russian collusion story that didn't happen.

00:08:17.520 They actually shut down a Biden corruption story that very much looks like it might well have

00:08:22.900 happened and is certainly better sourced than the Russian collusion story. But Adam Schiff doesn't

00:08:26.880 know. He doesn't have firsthand evidence. He wasn't there. He wasn't physically in the room.

00:08:31.900 And this comes after what to me was the turning point of everything, which was the Tara Reid accusations

00:08:36.600 where after listening to a woman accused Brett Kavanaugh of something with no proof that she'd ever

00:08:41.240 met him, we had Tara Reid accuse Joe Biden of having done something even worse. And she actually

00:08:47.140 has met him. And in the one case, a full court press to destroy Brett Kavanaugh went into place

00:08:53.220 across the media, all the way from one side to the other and from the left all the way to the far

00:08:58.860 left. And with the other, it was buried. The other case didn't, the story wasn't told for 19 days.

00:09:04.140 The New York Times buried in our Easter paper. And so what we're looking at now is do they have the

00:09:08.940 power, as you said in your opening, funnily, but it's also not that funny, is do they have the

00:09:13.880 power to take a clearly senile old man who is a front for a radical left party and push him over

00:09:20.800 the top? And I think if we see that stopped, it is going to be very meaningful because it means

00:09:25.940 that we, the replacement media, have a good shot at replacing this dishonest and corrupt,

00:09:31.600 desiccated legacy. Funnily, but not that funnily, it's going to be the name of my autobiography.

00:09:35.600 Ben, I agree with what Drew just said. I think that the real story tonight, no matter who wins,

00:09:42.780 no matter who is the next president, the most, the most consequential event of the night or the

00:09:46.620 most consequential story of the night is the state of the media in the country. What's your read?

00:09:51.040 No question that that's the case. I think it's the media. I think more broadly,

00:09:54.480 it's the takeover of virtually every cultural institution by the left. And I think that the

00:10:00.180 right has typically fought the culture war by electing Republicans. If the Democrats are able

00:10:04.740 to take back the auspices of government power and use that to foster the culture war as well,

00:10:09.420 then all guns are turned against conservatives, against religious people, against people who just

00:10:12.780 want to be left alone in their daily lives. We've watched the takeover of nearly every institution

00:10:17.100 in America by a radical left, very small movement that has made extraordinary gains. And I'm not even

00:10:23.120 just talking about the sort of typical democratic left. I'm talking about the woke left that seeks to

00:10:27.340 cancel everybody who doesn't fulfill the obligations put upon them by Ibram Kendi and Robin DiAngelo.

00:10:32.300 I'm talking about people who believe that you shouldn't be friends with anybody who would

00:10:35.620 even consider voting Republican. You certainly shouldn't employ those people. Those people

00:10:38.740 have now become a moving force in American life to the point where so many Americans are even afraid

00:10:44.100 to speak freely. It's that bad on a cultural level. You get the power of government behind that.

00:10:47.940 You get Joe Biden and Kamala Harris and Democrats in the Senate wrecking institutions in pursuit of

00:10:52.400 majoritarian cram down on everybody else. And things could get really, really ugly really,

00:10:57.720 really quickly. And when we talk about the institutions, we are obviously, you know,

00:11:01.660 talking here about the establishment media, which has been worth eight to 10 points in nearly every

00:11:05.120 election for Democrats in my lifetime. In this election, I guess there probably were 10 to 15

00:11:08.840 points given how much they hate Donald Trump and how much rage they've stoked against Trump,

00:11:13.420 particularly on the COVID issue, where they've just promoted the myth that Donald Trump is almost

00:11:16.620 like a sort of bizarre blight upon the land and that if Trump is removed from office, COVID will

00:11:20.360 just go away. But it's not just them. It's the it's the takeover of corporate America that scares the hell out

00:11:25.060 of me as well. And that includes social media because corporate, there was this conventional wisdom

00:11:29.680 idea that Republicans had bought into for a very long time, which was that that you sure everybody

00:11:34.940 gets woke in college or everybody goes radical in college and then you grow up, right? You get out,

00:11:38.980 get a job, get married, you pay taxes. And the old Winston Churchill kind of the old old saw about,

00:11:45.020 you know, liberals being being, you know, having heart, but but having no brain by the time they're

00:11:49.580 40, that would start to apply. People would move up, move on. But instead, what's happened is people

00:11:53.600 got out of college and they actually changed the institutions to fit them. And so now you have

00:11:58.020 major corporations saying that they will not do business with you if you are of a particular

00:12:02.220 point of view, openly catering to the other side. You have credit card companies that are

00:12:06.200 rejecting business with particular with particular businesses. You have social media that is acting

00:12:10.740 the same way. They kind of live halfway in that space between media and corporate America. But

00:12:16.400 the social media shutting down the Hunter Biden story, not because they thought it was false,

00:12:20.960 but because they thought they feared it might be true. And so it had to be shut down because if it were

00:12:25.000 allowed to be put out there, then you might have enough information to make your own choices. This

00:12:28.740 is the battle that we're in right now. You know, Trump is at the forefront of that battle. Republicans

00:12:33.700 are at the forefront of that battle, not because that's the way we win the culture war, but because

00:12:37.500 if we continue to lose the culture war and we lose the political war as well, there will be nothing

00:12:42.120 left other than a complete separation of the American public, which is what we're watching in real

00:12:45.420 time. Yeah, it does seem like for the first time in my lifetime, balkanization is an actual

00:12:49.740 possible outcome as as the red gets redder, as the blue gets bluer. And unlike the last time that

00:12:55.560 we saw a separation happen in our country, I'm not sure that anyone actually cares enough for their 0.98

00:13:00.940 for their fellow citizen who disagrees with them politically to actually engage in any sort of

00:13:06.120 armed conflict to keep them. I mean, I think you can really see the possibility of something like

00:13:11.020 Brexit forming. And, you know, Ben, you spoke about this eloquently in your book, but a sort of

00:13:16.960 deunionization, right? Yeah, this is right. The dissolution of the republic. That's right.

00:13:20.880 It could be at hand. The only reason I think that it could get ugly is because people who are in 1.00

00:13:24.920 charge of the federal government, if they're Democrats, don't want to see the taxpayer dollars

00:13:28.120 walk out the door. And they're very much afraid that that if job creation is happening in the

00:13:32.080 red states and dying in the blue states, you can't let everybody who's got the money actually

00:13:35.140 walk out the door. There's a reason that that East Germany had to actually build a wall to keep 0.94

00:13:38.900 people from from escaping. All communism is international communism, right? It actually doesn't work in any

00:13:44.540 sort of local. I mean, it doesn't work, but at least they can say they don't know that when Joe

00:13:48.480 Biden says he's a unifying figure. And then it is perfectly obvious that his party has decided

00:13:52.660 that they wish to basically subsume individual rights and personal freedoms and the philosophy

00:13:59.040 of the Declaration of Independence in favor of a pursuit of left wing utopia. They're making their

00:14:04.500 choice. That's an ugly choice. I mean, I thought that maybe the future of the country rested on good

00:14:07.840 hearted liberals getting together with conservatives and classical liberals. And and at least we were

00:14:12.100 unified over what we thought our basic rights were. And then we would argue about policy. But it seems

00:14:15.840 like a lot of members of the Democratic Party, including people like Joe Biden, have decided it's

00:14:19.940 much easier to go along with a woke left that gives them an easier path to utopia, even if that

00:14:23.960 means getting rid of American philosophy, American history and those personal rights. Well, that brings us to

00:14:27.980 another important issue, Michael, which is that we've seen an unleashing of racial animus

00:14:33.180 during the last four years that is certainly different than anything that I've seen in my life.

00:14:38.520 Drew lived through, I don't know, probably the Civil War.

00:14:42.260 It was bad. It was real shooting then. You could only load once, but still, you know.

00:14:48.100 Nevertheless, it really seems like in my lifetime, there's been great racial reconciliation has taken

00:14:53.300 place all throughout my life. And now, you know, even pals of ours, David French made a speech in a

00:14:59.640 debate that he did with Eric Metaxas in which he kept accusing Trump of fueling racial hatred in the

00:15:04.220 country, pouring fuel on racial animus, I think is what he said. But I look around and I see the only

00:15:08.580 people who are really wielding race and stirring racial animus are this modern left. It's Joe Biden

00:15:14.620 saying that Republicans want to put you all back in chains. It's the burning down of cities now,

00:15:18.480 apparently, even when an armed black man attacking police is killed by police and self-defense.

00:15:24.180 You know, what does it mean for our country that these racial divisions are being played upon the way

00:15:29.940 that they are? Is there a way to get back to a place where we can all coexist? Well, I think what

00:15:34.120 it means is that Donald Trump just has not condemned white supremacy. I hope tonight, on election night,

00:15:39.980 he would do that. I think he's done about 700 million times so far, but he should do it 700

00:15:44.080 million and one times. Of course, Donald Trump famously said racism is evil. He goes on and on.

00:15:48.740 He says we all bleed the same blood of patriots, which is true. We do all bleed the same blood of 1.00

00:15:53.160 patriots if we're patriots, if we love our country. And the left has made clear they don't love the

00:15:57.240 country. I wish it didn't come down to that, but I think this election presents a clear choice.

00:16:01.180 Trump supporters wave the American flag. Biden supporters burn the American flag.

00:16:05.260 Not all Biden supporters. Obviously, there are many who do not. But all the people who are burning

00:16:09.940 the flags right now support Joe Biden over Donald Trump and more in a greater number than the flag

00:16:15.180 burners. There are many, many Biden supporters who don't light the flag on fire, but they think that

00:16:19.580 America was founded in 1619, not 1776. They think that America is fundamentally defined by the worst

00:16:26.100 aspects of her history, namely slavery, among other issues. There are many people in this country who

00:16:31.920 want to fundamentally transform it, who think the past of America is uniformly evil, who think that

00:16:36.100 the present of America is uniformly evil, and they love America in the future, in the future of their

00:16:40.860 dreams where it's unrecognizable. They want to, to quote Barack Obama, fundamentally transform America.

00:16:46.040 Well, we're looking at an America that is becoming fundamentally transformed, and it's pretty ugly.

00:16:50.260 That fundamental transformation is, as you were pointing out, Jeremy, creating a new American caste 1.00

00:16:54.300 system, ripping up racial animosities, sexual animosities, all sorts of animosities. That is

00:16:59.320 a really awful thing. And I think the election comes down to, do you embrace your fellow American

00:17:03.120 as an American, wave the flag, or do you torch that country and create some new project that 0.51

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00:19:17.600 Okay, so we said we weren't going to do predictions. So let's not do predictions,

00:19:20.440 but we should do analysis. Absolutely.

00:19:22.100 So as John Bickley, editor-in-chief of The Daily Wire, my former position,

00:19:26.580 has suggested, there are a bunch of states to keep an eye on early. Here's the rundown on when the

00:19:32.500 polls close in each particular state. So as of 7 p.m. Eastern, which is in about 40 minutes here,

00:19:37.300 the polls close in Georgia, the rest of Indiana. They already closed in some parts of Indiana,

00:19:41.420 Kentucky, South Carolina, Vermont, and Virginia at 7.30 p.m. Eastern, 4.30 p.m. Pacific. They

00:19:46.480 close in North Carolina, Ohio, and West Virginia at 8 p.m. Eastern, Alabama, Connecticut, Delaware,

00:19:51.320 D.C., Florida. Polls do close at 7 p.m. Eastern outside of Florida's panhandle, but they don't

00:19:57.380 release the results the same way that they used to because obviously in 2000, there was a lot of fear

00:20:01.160 that by releasing early results in Florida, they were actually going to lead to decreased voter

00:20:04.860 turnout in the panhandle, which is sort of what happened. They started announcing the results

00:20:07.940 early in Florida. A bunch of people in the panhandle said, oh, I guess the voting's over

00:20:11.220 and didn't show up in the panhandle to vote for Bush. So they shifted how they report the votes

00:20:15.020 in Florida. And most of the states basically by 8 p.m. Eastern are in Illinois, Maine,

00:20:19.820 Maryland, Massachusetts, Mississippi, Missouri, New Hampshire, New Jersey, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania,

00:20:24.460 Rhode Island, and Tennessee. As far as when the states actually count those votes,

00:20:28.560 Florida counts nearly right away. So Florida is going to be probably your earliest indicator of

00:20:32.280 where the election is going at this point. And, you know, having spent some time in Florida,

00:20:37.680 it's always really competitive. It always tends to pull a little bit more Democrat than it

00:20:42.180 ends up being. That's what happened with Ron DeSantis and Andrew Gillum last time

00:20:45.240 in the gubernatorial race in 2018. I can tell you just anecdotally, the enthusiasm for Trump is

00:20:50.420 extremely, extremely high in Florida. I think that Trump is going to win Florida, although right now,

00:20:56.880 if you watch Twitter, if you watch the various parties, they're suggesting that there's a lot of late

00:21:01.500 turnout from 4 to 6 p.m. for Democrats, particularly in Broward County, which is a blue county in

00:21:05.860 Florida. It's close to Miami. It goes Miami, Dayton, then Broward, and then Palm Beach as you

00:21:10.040 move up the coast. So we'll see how Florida turns out. Keep an eye on North Carolina and Florida early

00:21:15.640 on. Later in the night, keep an eye on Arizona. Trump needs to win Florida, North Carolina, and

00:21:19.580 Arizona. This is his easiest path. Florida, North Carolina, Arizona, Pennsylvania. That's his path.

00:21:23.580 If he does not win any of those states, you're going to start seeing weird talk about Nevada or

00:21:28.520 Minnesota, maybe filling the gap. That is unlikely, I think, at best. So he does need to win those

00:21:33.780 three southern, southwestern states. And then he needs to win Pennsylvania as well. The Biden campaign

00:21:38.900 was betraying a little bit of anxiety, by the way, pretty early on. What it really comes down to,

00:21:42.420 for the people watching right now, is Trump can lose quite early tonight, as with Mitt Romney in 2012.

00:21:48.880 He can only win quite late tonight, as with Trump 2016. If we see the polls close in just under 58 minutes,

00:21:57.840 if the polls close in, I'm sorry, in just under 38 minutes, if the polls close in Florida and the

00:22:02.760 president were to lose Florida, it would be like 2012 Mitt Romney, a very short night. We'll be here

00:22:09.020 to commiserate with you, but it won't be the joyful celebration we're all hoping for. For the president

00:22:13.560 to win, he's going to have to pick up Arizona, which means we're going to be here probably until

00:22:17.260 8 p.m. All that, of course, best case scenario. That assumes that we're not within the margin of error.

00:22:20.920 That assumes that we're not litigating this thing until, you know, I don't know.

00:22:25.920 The end of time. Florida, again, most of the votes come in pretty early,

00:22:29.920 and they've been tabulating the votes as they go along. Pennsylvania is the one that's the

00:22:33.160 nightmare scenario. If it comes down to Pennsylvania, as people have been talking about, there's

00:22:36.320 a court ruling that basically kicked the can down the road on how late ballots can be received.

00:22:41.140 Ballots can now be received for days after the election. It is unclear whether they can be

00:22:44.400 postmarked after the election, which means that the election day is not actually the election day.

00:22:48.120 That would get litigating.

00:22:48.820 He's waiting as fast as he can to fill them out.

00:22:50.580 Right, exactly. It would be pretty wild.

00:22:53.960 I need a pin. Somebody give me a pin.

00:22:57.260 The sort of basic math thus far is that there's an expectation that Democrats are going to do well

00:23:02.980 in mail-in voting, that Republicans are doing well in early voting, not mail-in. Like in-person

00:23:08.000 early voting, they're doing pretty well, and that on election day, Republicans are expected

00:23:10.960 to face the Democrats pretty significantly.

00:23:13.240 It's pretty surprising, the early voting. Republicans really turned out. Republicans are

00:23:17.320 a little stodgy. They like to vote on election day. I like to vote on election day. But they

00:23:21.040 did turn out early, and that was kind of a surprise, I think.

00:23:23.380 Yeah, the Trump campaign really put a lot of focus on that. I think they made a strategic

00:23:26.280 early error by saying that mail-in ballots are, in essence, bad.

00:23:29.460 They saw Trump shift on that, right? Trump went to, except for in Florida. In Florida,

00:23:32.480 they're kind of good, right? And so a lot of Republicans started to take him up on the,

00:23:35.780 okay, well, I don't trust mail-in ballots, but I do want to vote early, so I'm going to go

00:23:38.420 and I'm going to show him.

00:23:38.920 Well, listen, I don't blame them. Let me tell you about the shenanigans that have gone on

00:23:41.680 in California. I've gotten, I've been permanent absentee in California since it, basically,

00:23:47.600 since it became possible to be permanent absentee in California. I don't believe in voting until

00:23:51.580 election day. But what my wife and I have always done is a precaution in case we needed to travel

00:23:55.760 or ran into any other kind of problems. We're permanent absentee. On election day, we take our

00:24:01.040 absentee ballot to our polling place, and we turn it in instead of sticking it in the mail. I've

00:24:05.840 never trusted mail-in voting, but I always thought that it was, that it was prudent to get the

00:24:10.740 absentee ballot. For the first time this year, registered Republican, I did not receive an

00:24:16.100 absentee ballot. I received the sample ballot. I received the instruction packet. You get about

00:24:22.820 five things over the course of the months leading into the election. Got all of them. Did not get a

00:24:26.980 ballot. My wife did not get a ballot. My neighbor, who's a registered Republican, did not get their

00:24:31.520 ballot. His wife, who's a registered independent, did get her ballot. I've been hearing stories like

00:24:36.780 this anecdotally from my friends all around California, several people who work here. So for

00:24:41.120 the first time in quite a long time, I went down to my polling place without an absentee ballot.

00:24:45.920 I checked in. I asked them to check and see if anyone had voted on my ballot. Fortunately, they

00:24:50.320 said no, and they were able to cancel that ballot and let me vote on the machine. In the past,

00:24:55.080 California has always used the ink, punch ink system. This year, it was a digital system. It was

00:25:00.980 basically an iPad in a booth that isn't even all that private, right? People can watch you, but you go to

00:25:05.160 this iPad. And amazingly, when you get to the section on voting for president, they listed the

00:25:11.880 presidential candidates in order alphabetical by party. D is for Democrat. So right at the top,

00:25:18.660 there was Joe Biden, Kamala Harris. Then you had your Green Party. Then you had your Libertarian Party.

00:25:25.300 And that was it. That was all that was on the pad. There was a little bitty button down at the bottom

00:25:31.120 that said more. Now, I'm of a certain age where I grew up with computers. Everyone here is,

00:25:38.340 except, I mean, you grew up with an abacus, so you kind of understand. You've worked in media your

00:25:44.300 entire life. You can navigate a UX. Almost every UX is fairly intuitive, but we all have parents and

00:25:50.940 grandparents who are of a slightly different generation who can't navigate even like the 0.98

00:25:55.640 simplest Apple UX. You know, when you go from Apple iOS X to iOS X 0.1, it looks exactly the

00:26:05.040 same, but the color change. And your mom's like, Jeremy, I don't understand. Where's the green

00:26:09.720 button? Well, mom, it's the same button, but it used to be green. Now it's like almost green. It's

00:26:15.380 like green. It was forest green. Anyway, if you're 80, if you're 90, you're more likely to vote for Trump

00:26:21.920 than younger age demos. You don't know how to navigate these operating systems in a sort of

00:26:27.460 organic user experience. You don't know to push the little tiny more button at the bottom. I did,

00:26:32.620 and it takes you to a second page. Even on that page, Donald Trump isn't the first name because

00:26:36.180 there's so many parties and R is pretty low in the alphabet. But can you, just that small thing,

00:26:43.380 how much, how many votes get lost? Because people of a certain age get into the booth. They didn't get 1.00

00:26:49.240 their mail-in ballot that they're accustomed to getting. They get into the booth. It doesn't

00:26:52.540 even look like Donald Trump is on the ballot. You say, well, they can ask. Yeah, but in order to

00:26:58.140 ask, you then have to tell people who you're voting for. Right, right. Which, you know, I have

00:27:02.480 this strange experience. Also, California, I'm voting in a very liberal district, and I insisted

00:27:07.840 to my wife's chagrin on wearing the MAGA hat to go vote. And I wanted to do a little dance to vote

00:27:12.340 for Donald Trump. Is that illegal? That should be illegal to do that dance. Yeah, if you're me. So I go down,

00:27:17.680 I'm wearing the MAGA hat. And she said, we're going to get shot. At best, we're going to get 0.98

00:27:21.620 yelled at. And she was right. We did get yelled at. There was a little box that you could put it in.

00:27:26.020 And then there were people waiting in line to cast their early ballots. And I did get yelled at by a

00:27:30.440 guy who is voting for Donald Trump. And he said, hey, man, MAGA, you know, love the E.Y. And then I

00:27:35.560 got yelled at by another guy, also voting for Donald Trump, saying, don't put your ballot in that box.

00:27:40.260 You got to do it in here. It's safer. This, to me, would have been unthinkable. I voted in California

00:27:45.320 many times. I've always worn silly Republican shorts or MAGA hat or something like that. 0.90

00:27:50.740 Never have I seen that kind of enthusiasm. A lot of people who haven't lived out here

00:27:54.160 don't realize there have been rallies in Beverly Hills. This is the greatest compliment that I've

00:27:57.820 ever received. Because unbeknownst to Michael, what he is essentially saying is that I am so damn 0.92

00:28:04.900 good at my job that some poor schmuck actually recognizes me in public. He's like, I've gone to 1.00

00:28:11.780 polling places my entire life. No one's ever recognized. Yes. No, this is very true. He said,

00:28:18.240 give Jeremy my regards. I said, absolutely. I couldn't get it. I mean, these were fired up

00:28:22.140 Trump voters at a liberal precinct in L.A. There have been rallies in Beverly Hills going on. I'm

00:28:26.900 not saying Trump's going to win California. I'm not making any predictions. I'm certainly not making

00:28:30.120 that. You're right. This is a big change. This is a big change. And if the Republicans were not so

00:28:34.300 brain dead, which they are, we're the stupid party. They're the evil party. You know, if they were not 1.00

00:28:38.620 such a stupid party, they would catch on to this, that this is an important thing. 1.00

00:28:42.880 Jeb exclamation mark was never going to get that happening. John McCain was never going to get 1.00

00:28:47.000 that happening. You know, Mitt Romney, never going to happen. This is something that has really ignited

00:28:52.140 people and it has hooked the Republican Party into a new strain of enthusiasm that won't turn

00:28:56.780 California this time, but could turn California eventually. And when you see those crowds coming out,

00:29:01.500 I know they don't mean anything in terms of the polls, the ultimate votes. But when you see those

00:29:05.980 crowds turning out, that does tell you that there are people out there desperate for the kind of

00:29:10.460 talk that they're hearing from Donald Trump. And, you know, I think we have all, I think,

00:29:15.580 been very honest about Trump's character flaws. You know, we've talked about this.

00:29:19.780 Have we? Have we all?

00:29:22.200 I meant the three of us.

00:29:23.300 Yeah, no, I said one time he only got 30,000 at the rally. He didn't get 40.

00:29:27.480 But we should talk for just a moment, if we might, about his character virtues, one of which is the fact

00:29:33.000 that while Joe Biden was hiding in his basement with a mask, he was out there walking around,

00:29:38.700 got COVID, three days later, is campaigning more in a single day than Biden is in a month.

00:29:45.820 Well, Biden's falling apart. I mean, you've seen footage from him today.

00:29:48.840 Yeah.

00:29:49.220 I mean, it is very obvious.

00:29:50.600 His daughter.

00:29:51.460 His granddaughter.

00:29:52.280 Yeah, I mean, he's flubbing nearly everything.

00:29:54.840 Right.

00:29:55.020 I mean, it is very difficult to look at him and believe that this guy is going to be president

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00:29:58.200 But even even beyond that is just when you remember when when Trump got the disease and he came back

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00:30:06.520 And the media has once said, no, no, be afraid.

00:30:09.000 Maybe very.

00:30:09.540 So I actually want to talk about this is a virtue that represents the Americans.

00:30:12.700 I want to talk about the president and COVID.

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00:32:13.640 So I promised you breaking news and breaking news you shall have.

00:32:17.780 Rather than me tell it to you because I don't know nothing about it, we're going to go to Cassie Dillon in the war room. 0.92

00:32:23.120 Cassie, what's going on out there?

00:32:24.520 So I've been keeping an eye on Twitter and a lot of things are going on right now.

00:32:29.480 D.C. boarded up before the elections and so did many other cities.

00:32:33.500 There's actually a wall outside the White House.

00:32:35.640 But right now in D.C. there is violence taking place.

00:32:38.640 There are many videos going around on social media.

00:32:41.480 There's one of a man with a metal bat outside the White House.

00:32:44.720 And then there's one of actually people getting arrested.

00:32:47.540 The police are tossing them on the ground.

00:32:49.740 And apparently the violence started after the police tried to disperse a crowd to move a car that was parked illegally.

00:32:56.720 But violence is already taking place and polls have not even closed yet.

00:33:00.900 So, you know, that's not really telling for the rest of the night.

00:33:03.660 But these videos keep coming out and it's very troubling.

00:33:06.500 You can take a look here. People on the ground, police threw them on the ground.

00:33:10.020 And, you know, people are coming with weapons and they're ready to cause some problems, it seems like.

00:33:14.620 Wow.

00:33:15.200 Have we seen anything like this in living memory during a presidential election?

00:33:19.720 I mean, well, during inauguration day for Trump, right, people went nuts and there was a bit of rioting in D.C.

00:33:23.340 But but on election day, the prep that you're seeing on the ongoing for violence, that people are looking for violence.

00:33:30.680 Like the fact is, if Joe Biden wins tonight, I think there will still be violence.

00:33:33.280 I think that if Biden wins, I think that there's going to be celebratory looting.

00:33:36.560 I mean, when out here in L.A., when the Lakers won the championship, there was celebratory looting.

00:33:40.600 I mean, so there's always a group of people who are going to take advantage of any situation to do that.

00:33:44.560 But everybody understands that if Trump wins, the violence is going to be extraordinary in a lot of blue cities.

00:33:49.660 Nobody's boarding up because they're afraid of MAGA-hatted thugs coming down the street and wailing on their business front.

00:33:54.480 Anybody who tells you differently is just lying to you.

00:33:56.180 Well, I am going to go and get myself a Gucci purse tonight.

00:33:58.800 But people always mention this.

00:34:00.320 Of course you are, Michael.

00:34:01.020 I need it.

00:34:01.880 Come on.

00:34:02.340 I'm not going to be the only one with that one.

00:34:04.140 People have said for the past four years, Donald Trump makes me so ashamed.

00:34:07.860 You hear this mostly from the left, but even some Republicans.

00:34:09.880 It makes me ashamed to be an American.

00:34:11.500 Trump doesn't make me ashamed.

00:34:12.860 He's the best president of my lifetime.

00:34:14.800 You know what does make me ashamed to be an American, though?

00:34:17.620 Those scenes.

00:34:18.400 Because the world's greatest democracy now looks like a third-world banana republic with stores boarding up and people already engaging in violence because of an election.

00:34:28.800 Antonin Scalia famously said in the 2000 election, Bush v. Gore, that it was so humiliating as a country that the greatest democracy in the world couldn't conduct its own election.

00:34:37.140 How much more humiliating that before the results have come in, we are boarding up shop because of political violence in the street like we're some two-bit dictator.

00:34:46.320 I can't remind you of this, but I can't help myself that four years ago when Trump won and you were kind of saying, oh, this is a bad election.

00:34:53.440 And I said, well, at least we have the peaceful transfer of power.

00:34:55.620 And you scoffed at me.

00:34:56.860 You said, of course we have the peaceful transfer.

00:34:59.020 That's nothing to celebrate.

00:35:00.760 You know, we should value these things while we got them because they disappear like that.

00:35:04.400 Well, it is another element of, you know, what we're talking about when we talk about replacing the media.

00:35:09.420 The fact that there have been polls showing a plurality of Americans believe that the violence in America's cities are being caused by militias and right-wing groups.

00:35:16.000 Is that true?

00:35:16.680 Oh, yeah.

00:35:17.580 And that is because of the ongoing propaganda effort by the Democratic Party and the media, which are arms of one another.

00:35:24.640 I mean, they are the same.

00:35:26.300 To proclaim that violence in America is chiefly caused by the right wing.

00:35:30.620 The same people who call the Tea Party terrorists won't force Joe Biden to even face up to saying anything bad about Antifa.

00:35:36.120 And then they claim that the violence in the streets has nothing to do with them.

00:35:38.720 And I'm sorry, but a lot of what we're talking about tonight, if Trump wins and there is violence, a lot of what we're talking about tonight has been actively fostered by a media that has been proclaiming the only way that Donald Trump loses, the only way Donald Trump wins is through voter suppression.

00:35:52.580 And they're actively saying this day after day.

00:35:55.180 They are arguing that all of these lawsuits being filed all over the country by Republicans about what ought to be illegally counted about and what ought not to be illegally counted about.

00:36:02.060 That is an act of voter suppression.

00:36:03.840 So Anna Pressley suggests that long lines for a thing are voter suppression, unless it's for bread.

00:36:08.460 Like Bernie Sanders loves bread lines.

00:36:09.580 But if it's a line to vote, then it's very bad.

00:36:11.660 Bread lines are good because at the end you get bread.

00:36:13.840 Lines to vote are bad because at the end you vote.

00:36:16.000 But also that's voter suppression. 0.99

00:36:17.640 So the Democratic claims of voter suppression have been so much more loud and boisterous than even the Republican claims of voter fraud.

00:36:25.800 And I'm not a big fan of the voter fraud claims because I just don't think that there's systemic evidence of hundreds of thousands of votes being counted.

00:36:32.060 Fraudulently, I think that it has cropped up its head in particular congressional districts or in very, very, very tight races, which is something to worry about.

00:36:38.620 But when you claim widespread voter suppression, which has been the Democratic lie for the last several years, right, Stacey Abrams lost by 50,000 votes. 0.57

00:36:45.480 But if it hadn't been for voter suppression in a record turnout year, then Stacey Abrams definitely would have won. 1.00

00:36:50.600 If there's violence in the streets because of that, when you have the AG of Pennsylvania literally saying there is no way for Donald Trump to win this state unless active voter suppression takes place,

00:36:59.360 what do you think the predictable result of that is going to be if Donald Trump wins the election?

00:37:02.860 And it is sad because it's not – I don't think it is the typical Democrat, the typical Democrat voter.

00:37:07.440 It is a small portion of the Democrat population egged on by these massive corporations, these massive wealthy corporations, news industry, social media, Amazon.

00:37:19.300 You know, Amazon sending me Ibram X. Kendi's book, you know, advertising his book.

00:37:23.700 You know, if you like the poetry of John Keats, you'll like it.

00:37:28.260 That's the kind of thing.

00:37:29.480 And the thing is it never seems to occur to our stalwart communists on the left, to AOC or anybody in the squad,

00:37:37.980 how come if we're socialists all these rich people are supporting us?

00:37:41.200 It never seems to – like a little light bulb never goes on.

00:37:43.700 But here's the thing.

00:37:44.680 I think that when you're talking about that, when you talk about, you know,

00:37:47.680 it never occurs to the socialists that the corporations are supporting them,

00:37:50.500 that I think it's the corporations who are the ones who are being short-sighted.

00:37:53.120 I think the socialists know full well that the corporations are supporting them.

00:37:55.840 And they're willing to ride that train as far as it goes until they turn around and execute everybody.

00:38:00.600 It's all fun and games until Robes Fierre takes over.

00:38:03.100 And I think that they understand that if they can get the backing of the corporate world,

00:38:06.780 they can cudgel them and back them into a corner and the corporate world goes along with them.

00:38:10.360 This is the thing that's the scariest to me.

00:38:12.000 I mean, again, I mentioned it earlier, but the takeover of corporate America by anti-racist Ibram X. Kendi philosophy

00:38:18.940 and the takeover of the media by the same philosophy, that is scary as all hell.

00:38:24.600 Norm Perlstein, who's leaving the L.A. Times, he's the editor, and he's going to be leaving after the election.

00:38:28.220 A whole article from Ben Smith, how many members of the media are like, 0.98

00:38:30.500 if Trump loses, our job here is done because democracy dies in darkness and other such bullshit. 0.97

00:38:35.980 The basic notion that Norm Perlstein said, he said, once Trump is out of office, 0.96

00:38:41.180 the media are going to change their mission.

00:38:42.660 They have to be more diverse and more anti-racist.

00:38:45.700 So openly acknowledging a political agenda.

00:38:48.080 They quoted Wesley Lowry, who used to be a reporter for the Washington Post,

00:38:51.040 and who was fired because he was overtly political in his coverage of Ferguson, Missouri,

00:38:54.720 and who now says that all reporters should be overtly political in their coverage.

00:38:57.800 And he says, yeah, all of the media corporations came around to us.

00:39:00.920 I mean, that's what's scaring the living heck out of me.

00:39:02.760 And it's scary because the ordinary person who has three kids and a job...

00:39:06.540 They're not paying attention.

00:39:07.160 Well, not only are they not paying attention, but even if they disagree, what do they do?

00:39:10.820 What do you do when you have to go into HR and take the anti-racist class and say, you know,

00:39:15.720 and basically mouth all this nonsense, all this racist nonsense,

00:39:19.400 and you risk losing your job if you don't do it? 0.96

00:39:22.320 That is a way of taking over people's minds.

00:39:24.500 That's because freedom of speech, yes, is a legal construct in the country.

00:39:29.280 Because of the First Amendment, it's the case that the government can't infringe upon your freedom of speech or freedom of expression.

00:39:35.920 But freedom of speech has also always been a mentality in the country.

00:39:39.880 We've basically been a country of people who weren't going to be told what they could think,

00:39:43.380 weren't going to be told what they could say.

00:39:45.600 The problem is if you lose the mentality and all you're left with at the end of the day is the legal protection,

00:39:50.400 you've already lost because the legal protection won't hold in a society where people don't grant the actual moral premise.

00:39:56.460 This is where people like David French, with whom I profoundly disagree about this election,

00:40:00.880 but where he isn't altogether wrong when he says, for example, that character is destiny.

00:40:04.880 I think that David French and John Piper, Mitt Romney, these sort of decent men who can't let go of their sensibilities being so shattered by Donald Trump,

00:40:12.780 they try to make this argument that the character of a leader is the destiny of a country.

00:40:17.920 At its most extreme, of course, that's true.

00:40:20.940 But I don't think that that's actually true day to day.

00:40:23.560 I think almost all national leaders have always been of dubious moral character because power corrupts, wealth corrupts, fame corrupts.

00:40:30.580 This is why even a leader after God's own heart, like David, still doesn't get to build the temple, right?

00:40:35.000 Because it's why Moses can't inherit the land of promise, because being the leader actually comes with some consequence.

00:40:42.840 Nevertheless, it is true that the character of a people is the destiny of a nation.

00:40:48.020 And so if the character of our people is no longer a character of freedom, then the destiny of our nation is not freedom.

00:40:53.920 But this is also, if I can just finish this thought, this is also why I've been so hard on the social media

00:40:59.620 and don't believe that there's any argument where you say, well, they're private businesses,

00:41:03.680 because you have to start with the idea that our right to free speech comes from God.

00:41:07.540 The First Amendment protects us from the government interfering with that God-given right,

00:41:11.740 but the government has to protect us from social media or anybody else interfering with it.

00:41:15.820 The right is absolute.

00:41:17.140 The right to free speech comes from God.

00:41:19.420 And if we don't believe in it, we let it go.

00:41:21.680 Right.

00:41:22.120 Right. You know, I remember in 2008, when Ron Paul was running for president,

00:41:26.360 people would make fun of him because every other word he would say, the Constitution, you know,

00:41:30.320 and he'd always go back to that.

00:41:31.460 And there were memes going around the Internet where they'd say, oh, you're going to talk about my Constitution again

00:41:35.560 and more about the Constitution.

00:41:36.860 And the joke of that is not that we don't love the Constitution.

00:41:40.980 The joke of that is that if the people lose their knowledge of and respect for our constitutional order,

00:41:47.760 that piece of paper isn't going to help us.

00:41:49.760 It has to be our founding fathers talked about this so much.

00:41:52.920 Abraham Lincoln especially talked about this.

00:41:54.800 He said we have to revere our founding documents, our founding institutions, the men who gave us our country.

00:41:59.840 When you lose that because now the legacy media are constantly pushing us.

00:42:04.380 They actually rewrote the curriculum.

00:42:05.600 It's called the 1619 Project. 0.77

00:42:07.200 These fake educators, these pseudo scholars are pushing this kind of nonsense. 0.71

00:42:11.560 Big tech is pushing this nonsense.

00:42:12.920 Then all of a sudden you look up and you realize you don't have a country.

00:42:15.760 And while we may quibble with Donald Trump on various policies, I do too, and I really like the guy,

00:42:20.840 but I still quibble with some of the policies.

00:42:22.500 But you've got this image of Trump hugging the American flag, and you've got the other side basically saying the country is rotten to the core.

00:42:28.820 That's a big distinction.

00:42:30.200 And I will defend the First Amendment every single day of the week.

00:42:34.320 We have to believe it.

00:42:35.440 We have to embody it.

00:42:36.380 We have to enact it every day.

00:42:37.500 Another virtue is his visceral love of country.

00:42:39.480 Yeah, Donald Trump does love his country, and that is – I don't know that loving your country is virtuous per se.

00:42:46.780 Loving your country when your country is lovable is certainly virtuous,

00:42:49.580 and hating your country when your country is lovable is anti-virtue, right?

00:42:53.940 To hate a country as good as America is a failure of character,

00:42:58.440 and to love a country as good as America is a virtuous requirement.

00:43:02.720 Yeah, and I would also say it's unnatural.

00:43:04.780 It's like loving your country is like loving your mother.

00:43:06.820 You might have to have a problem with her, but she's your mom.

00:43:10.080 It's an extension of filial piety.

00:43:11.860 Love of country is an extension of your love of country.

00:43:13.300 And, of course, your country can go so far, just like your mom, your country can go so far off the boat.

00:43:17.820 You've got to toss her over the – out the train. 1.00

00:43:19.120 Well, we're not going to get into those issues.

00:43:20.220 Yeah, exactly.

00:43:21.880 But it is true, I think, that when you look at how attitudinally everybody approaches Election Day,

00:43:29.340 what I'm seeing from the right is, you know, a lot of nervousness about what's going to happen in the aftermath of the election.

00:43:36.620 And what I'm seeing from the left is sheer panic, the very idea that Donald Trump would be reelected.

00:43:41.680 So, you know, if Joe Biden wins, I'm going to be very concerned about the state of the country,

00:43:46.080 and then I'm going to get to work tomorrow, and I'm going to keep fighting for the values that we're all fighting for.

00:43:49.640 What you're getting from Democrats is sheer full-on panic in the same crazy hair-on-fire way

00:43:54.200 that they've been sheer full-on panicked since 2016.

00:43:57.160 I mean, let me read you this tweet from the estimable Sally Cohn.

00:44:00.360 She just tweeted out, quote,

00:44:01.660 Four years ago, I used my dog Xanax the night of the election.

00:44:04.420 Now I have my own.

00:44:05.560 Happy 2020.

00:44:06.660 Wow.

00:44:07.260 Wow.

00:44:07.440 That's somebody who's definitely healthy, and we should probably put in charge of policy.

00:44:12.700 I was talking with Drew about this before the show.

00:44:16.000 One of the things that I think is so indicative of the conflict that's happening right now in the country

00:44:19.380 is that the left believes that institutions are only there to be used.

00:44:24.120 They're either obstacles to utopia or they are tools in pursuit of utopia.

00:44:27.960 The right tends to believe that institutions are built in order to protect certain values,

00:44:33.180 and so we respect the Constitution because we believe that the Constitution is there

00:44:36.520 to protect the values of the Declaration of Independence.

00:44:38.600 The left believes that the Constitution is there in order to do all the things that it wants to do,

00:44:42.520 and if the Constitution doesn't do it, you just get rid of the Constitution.

00:44:45.320 And they believe this about the university system.

00:44:46.960 They believe this about the educational system.

00:44:48.260 They believe this about pretty much all about the family, the nuclear family.

00:44:51.480 If it doesn't achieve what they want it to achieve, then all of those things are dispensable.

00:44:56.160 Yeah.

00:44:56.740 What isn't dispensable, though, is your home, and that's why you need Ring.

00:45:00.100 Wow.

00:45:00.280 I'm getting better at this.

00:45:01.040 That was moved.

00:45:01.560 Think about where – just personal improvement.

00:45:03.400 Think about where I was in January.

00:45:05.900 What could make you feel better than being able to communicate with people

00:45:08.400 when they come to your door without actually opening the door?

00:45:11.640 In the olden days, you had that little peephole, and you were able to look through it.

00:45:14.020 You could barely see who was out there.

00:45:15.280 That was like looking through a funhouse mirror.

00:45:16.520 Now you can actually see in glorious HD who is at your front door from anywhere in the world over the Internet because of Ring.

00:45:24.580 There's a thousand reasons why protecting your home matters to you.

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00:45:37.420 If someone stops by or something's going on, if someone delivers a package, Ring lets you know.

00:45:41.420 It's peace of mind any time knowing that your home is protected, especially in days like today.

00:45:47.700 In L.A., we have so much mail fraud happening right now.

00:45:50.600 People steal packages.

00:45:51.540 They steal things right out of your mailbox.

00:45:53.300 They've been doing it since COVID.

00:45:54.580 People are getting so much material delivered to their home.

00:45:57.960 It's easy pickings for a lot of people who are up to no good.

00:46:00.680 Whatever you call home, Ring has everything you need to protect it.

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00:46:18.320 Indeed.

00:46:19.060 So, here's the thing.

00:46:20.420 I have three kids under the age of seven.

00:46:22.380 And if you have small children, one of the things you know is that small children are tiny suicide machines.

00:46:26.260 All they do all day long is try to kill themselves by sticking their fingers into light sockets and running into a pool.

00:46:30.980 Well, this is what – there's only one of you, but I have three children,

00:46:33.460 so I can't actually clone myself as much as the world needs it and actually just follow all my children around.

00:46:37.760 Instead, I use Ring to keep track of my children.

00:46:40.320 You can use Ring to keep track of your home, keep track of your security.

00:46:42.840 Get a special offer on the Ring Welcome Kit at Ring.com slash Ben.

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00:46:51.700 Go to Ring.com slash Ben.

00:46:53.260 That is indeed Ring.com slash Ben.

00:46:55.480 He's so much better than I am at this.

00:46:56.760 The idea of a cloned Ben Shapiro, I lost the power.

00:47:01.160 I know.

00:47:01.840 It is that incredible.

00:47:03.460 It is something like that.

00:47:04.640 By the way, in CNN – okay, so they're having a healthy one over at CNN.

00:47:08.120 Brian Stelter, who is a very reliable source.

00:47:10.560 Yes.

00:47:10.860 He's very, very reliable.

00:47:11.920 That's why they call him very reliable.

00:47:14.020 And his sources are reliable.

00:47:15.360 His sources are reliable, and he's very reliable himself in his sources.

00:47:18.400 So he just tweeted out, in Slack, motivational messages are bouncing back and forth.

00:47:22.680 Here we go.

00:47:23.560 Good luck, everyone.

00:47:24.560 Don't forget to eat.

00:47:25.640 Stay hydrated.

00:47:26.520 And more ominously, stay safe.

00:47:28.440 There's nothing left to say except let's count the votes.

00:47:31.840 Brian.

00:47:32.240 Brian Stelter saying, stay hydrated, to me, is uniquely comedic.

00:47:42.040 Uniquely hilarious.

00:47:42.920 You need to stay hydrated.

00:47:43.640 I'm glad, though.

00:47:44.160 It's better than his –

00:47:45.160 It's like Leslie Nielsen's going to pop into the cockpit and just go, we're all counting on you.

00:47:48.800 That's when I developed my drinking problem.

00:47:51.180 I'll take that anytime.

00:47:52.420 It's a product between Max Boot declaring himself a hero last night.

00:47:56.640 Oh, that was wonderful.

00:47:57.400 You see that one?

00:47:57.720 What did he say?

00:47:58.420 I missed it.

00:47:59.200 Oh, it was pretty great.

00:47:59.880 He tweeted out last night about how he and the never-Trumpers, like the true never-Trumpers, the people who now want you to vote for Democrats, you know, the real Republicans, the people who love conservatism so much, you should not just vote against Donald Trump.

00:48:10.440 You should actually vote actively in favor of Susan Collins, Susan Collins' opponent in Maine, right?

00:48:17.460 That's what you need to do.

00:48:18.560 So he tweeted out this piece that he'd written for The Washington Post all about what an incredible hero he is.

00:48:24.940 And I want to get the wording right, so I'm going to dig for it instead of stalling for time.

00:48:28.280 So you guys talk for a second while I find Max.

00:48:29.740 Rather than that, I want to take a question from one of our DailyWire.com subscribers.

00:48:34.460 They're the people who make it possible for us to bring you this show free tonight.

00:48:37.740 We're making this free at DailyWire.com, at YouTube, at Facebook for everyone because we know, look, this is a night when you want a lot of information, you want some insight.

00:48:44.560 So we want to be here for you.

00:48:45.520 But it's because of our DailyWire.com members that we're able to do that.

00:48:48.540 Alicia, what are you hearing from our people?

00:48:50.620 I am here, and I will make sure that I don't throw anybody under the bus.

00:48:55.300 Michael Knowles is not that interesting in Slack.

00:48:57.480 He just talks about where he gets his cigars and where we're drinking later tonight, which, you know, depending on what happens, depends on how heavily Michael will be drinking.

00:49:04.600 But our first question from an amazing DailyWire member goes to the God King himself, Jeremy Boring.

00:49:09.960 He wants to know, do you guys think the media is going to drop the COVID stuff after this election or double on down?

00:49:16.700 So I think that we'll see a few things happen.

00:49:18.600 I looked at a list this week of different states whose mask and COVID restriction policies expire within 10 days of the election, and it is remarkable.

00:49:29.980 A mask mandate for New York ends on the 3rd and on the 5th.

00:49:33.940 Now, some of them are realizing that they were a little too on the nose with how they situated these things, and they're racing to extend them now.

00:49:41.140 But that's just covering their own petards. 0.98

00:49:43.880 They knew what they were doing when they made these mask mandates three months ago expire on 11-3 or 11-5 or 11-6.

00:49:53.180 What magic thing was supposed to happen by 11-3 or 11-5 or 11-6?

00:49:57.460 We all know what it is.

00:49:58.540 It's the election.

00:49:59.440 Does that mean that COVID is exclusively political, that people don't have a legitimate health concern?

00:50:04.580 I don't think so.

00:50:05.220 But it does mean that their primary concern, the primary concern of Democrat governors, the primary concern of Democrat mayors, has been to instill fear and to be able to blame Donald Trump for all the deaths that happened with COVID.

00:50:18.380 Are they about to let up on all of it?

00:50:19.940 I don't think so.

00:50:20.920 I think that now they've actually created a problem that they can't solve by, for example, letting these businesses be locked down for seven, eight, nine months.

00:50:28.560 Now it's going to be very hard for businesses to make people go back to work.

00:50:31.800 When they try to reopen, their employees are rightly going to say, well, why am I safe now when I wasn't safe four months ago?

00:50:37.720 What's happened?

00:50:38.260 There's no vaccine.

00:50:39.600 In fact, if anything, cases are ticking up as we enter into the flu season, as we enter into the part of the year when viral infections are the most likely to happen, winter, when it's cold, when it's damp.

00:50:49.220 I think that they've created a lot of challenges for themselves, where now I wouldn't be surprised if COVID is essentially with us as a political issue until June.

00:50:59.660 Now, I know that Ben has an opinion about this.

00:51:02.420 I've heard him talk about it.

00:51:03.300 He may have even spoken about it on his show today, which I do think is an important additional insight, which is how I think they've gamed the system and now they're trapped a little bit.

00:51:11.400 But Ben actually thinks that there's a way they can extricate themselves by gaming what happens next, which is the decline that will naturally happen at the end of the viral season.

00:51:19.420 Ben, do you want to talk about that?

00:51:20.300 This is my only prediction of the night I am fully confident of, and I'm really, really confident of this prediction.

00:51:25.460 So we know the numbers are going to go up in November.

00:51:26.840 We know the numbers are going to go up in December.

00:51:28.420 And according to basically every law of epidemiology, apparently they're going to start declining in January, February, right?

00:51:34.080 And so because that's what happens.

00:51:35.460 It goes up and then it comes down again.

00:51:36.860 And then once it's down, one of the things people are not really paying attention to is the fact that the states where it got hit hard first time are not really getting hit hard this time.

00:51:44.900 Florida's not getting hit hard.

00:51:45.800 Georgia's not getting hit hard.

00:51:47.180 New York and Jersey not getting hit hard right now.

00:51:48.620 There really is not a second wave.

00:51:50.540 There's really just a big first wave.

00:51:51.960 It really is just a big first wave.

00:51:53.140 It's a big country.

00:51:53.480 Yeah, exactly.

00:51:54.460 And that's what you're seeing in Europe too, right?

00:51:55.760 It's not a second wave in Germany or France.

00:51:57.060 It's actually kind of a big first wave because the harder you lock down at the beginning, the worse the wave is the second time.

00:52:02.100 So what that means is that you're going to see this thing skyrocket and continue to skyrocket, not in terms of death, but in terms of cases.

00:52:09.700 And by the way, if you follow this stuff, pay attention to deaths and hospitalizations.

00:52:12.960 Don't pay attention to cases.

00:52:13.900 Cases are an incredibly useless statistic, particularly among children.

00:52:17.240 You keep seeing headlines.

00:52:18.320 Hundreds of thousands of cases have been diagnosed among kids.

00:52:20.400 These 121 children have died in the United States of COVID-19 out of several hundred thousand infections.

00:52:25.800 The death rates on this thing are way lower than flu for kids.

00:52:27.760 Anyway, here's what's going to happen.

00:52:29.420 January 20th, Inauguration Day.

00:52:31.220 Assume Biden wins for the sake of argument.

00:52:33.020 What's then going to happen is Biden will come in and he will declare a mask mandate, even though he doesn't have the constitutional power to do so, or he'll try to bully states into doing it with a variety of incentive programs.

00:52:42.600 There will be a media celebration of this as the first time that we as a country have ever taken COVID seriously.

00:52:48.300 Then the numbers, which will already be declining by January 20th, will continue to decline.

00:52:53.080 And then they will declare that the mask mandate is the reason for the decline.

00:52:55.720 It will attribute the decline to the action of Joe Biden, even though you have absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with one another, because every country in Europe basically has a mask mandate and has seen a massive spike.

00:53:04.620 Nonetheless, Italy, France, Germany and all the rest.

00:53:07.120 How do I know they're going to do this?

00:53:07.820 Because they did the exact same thing with Andrew Cuomo.

00:53:09.500 The thing peaked and then Andrew Cuomo declared a mask mandate.

00:53:12.000 And then they declared it was Andrew Cuomo's stellar and intrepid leadership to the decline in New York.

00:53:16.160 So I've been I've been promising you guys so far tonight that we are going to have all kinds of surprises.

00:53:21.160 It's the biggest show that we've ever mounted here at The Daily Wire.

00:53:24.000 And the first one is upon us. The polls close in Florida in seven minutes.

00:53:28.080 We're going to start getting our first important information about the future of the country.

00:53:31.440 And here to walk us through what that might look like is the governor of Florida himself, a man who, while only one year older than me, is far more successful and slightly less handsome.

00:53:41.680 Governor Ron DeSantis, thank you for joining us.

00:53:44.460 Well, thank you. Good to be here.

00:53:45.860 And just for the record, polls in the eastern time zone close at seven.

00:53:51.500 Right.

00:53:51.600 The panhandle is seven central, so they will continue to go until 8 p.m.

00:53:56.420 Eastern time.

00:53:57.960 Remember, back in 2000, all the networks forgot about that.

00:54:01.480 And they made a big mistake by calling Florida for Al Gore before the panhandle had even closed.

00:54:06.760 Yep.

00:54:07.220 So keep voting in the panhandle message there.

00:54:09.160 And if you're in line, your vote will be taken.

00:54:10.900 So stay in line if you're in the panhandle and waiting in line to vote.

00:54:13.860 Also, Governor DeSantis, welcome me to your state.

00:54:16.420 So I'm now a resident of your fantastic state, and I will say, your state is far superior to the state in which I currently sit.

00:54:22.080 It is more beautiful.

00:54:22.920 It has better governance.

00:54:24.040 It has better women because my wife is there right now. 1.00

00:54:26.000 And it's a pretty spectacular place.

00:54:28.600 I have to say, it is nice to live in a state where they have decided not to lock down every single thing in the state.

00:54:34.700 I went to the gym.

00:54:35.620 I tried to go to the gym this morning in L.A., and the hotel was completely empty.

00:54:39.460 Like, there was no one in the entire hotel, and they had locked the gym thanks to Governor Gavin Newsom.

00:54:43.260 That is not what's happening in Florida.

00:54:44.920 So should we start by talking about election politics with Governor DeSantis, or should we start with COVID stuff?

00:54:49.200 Because he is the best governor in America.

00:54:50.340 Yeah, no, I think that, well, one, just in terms of the election, have you registered to vote in Florida?

00:54:54.500 I already did. 0.99

00:54:55.880 You bet your ass I did. 0.98

00:54:58.040 It's the first time in my entire life. 0.96

00:54:59.420 Well, it's interesting because, you know, what we're seeing, and I think one of the things for you guys to just remind your viewers of,

00:55:05.920 when Florida reports results, the first dump of votes will be the absentee mail votes and the early votes.

00:55:13.020 And the Democrats had a huge migration away from in-person voting towards the mail.

00:55:18.840 So we usually, Republicans would usually beat Democrats and vote by mail.

00:55:22.980 They would usually beat Republicans in in-person early voting.

00:55:26.280 That flipped this year.

00:55:27.460 They had a huge advantage over the mail.

00:55:30.160 Republicans actually did very well in early voting.

00:55:32.520 We still had a deficit going into Election Day.

00:55:35.320 It was about 108,000 more Democrat ballots than Republican ballots had been cast.

00:55:40.740 But now what we've seen so far on Election Day, we're at about, so we, we, Republicans erased that advantage by about 930 in the morning.

00:55:49.600 Wow.

00:55:49.920 And now there's been 220,000 more Republican ballots cast than Democrat ballots.

00:55:57.240 Obviously, with the panhandle still voting, we think that that will increase even more.

00:56:01.000 And just to compare that, in 2016, when Donald Trump won Florida, he had about a 65,000 ballot advantage, R over D.

00:56:09.920 And so he's going to be in a much better position.

00:56:13.940 And as we, you know, when you look Florida historically, you know, absent strange circumstances, you typically have the Republican nominee get 90 plus percent of Republicans.

00:56:23.440 And the Democrat typically gets a point or two less in terms of holding the Democrats.

00:56:29.140 Part of that is because we have ancestral Democrats who vote Republican in federal races still.

00:56:34.400 So looking at him going into this, you know, I got to think he's in a stronger position.

00:56:39.100 If you look at the turnout in Miami-Dade County, the president lost by 30 points in 2016.

00:56:45.180 That's a big county.

00:56:46.640 I would say I told him if you could just cut it to 20, that's like 50,000, 60,000 votes swing.

00:56:52.660 That could win you the state.

00:56:54.280 What I'm hearing is it's going to be less than 20 point margin.

00:56:58.140 He has a chance to get it into 10 to 12 point margin.

00:57:01.600 And that may be best case.

00:57:03.320 But the turnout has been really, really good for Republicans.

00:57:06.620 Republicans are turning out down there.

00:57:08.460 And, you know, the way these races in Florida go is, you know, Democrats have those three really strong counties in southern Florida.

00:57:16.700 And smart candidates on the Republican side don't ignore him.

00:57:19.980 You go down there and you try to reduce the margin.

00:57:22.300 And I think the president's done that in Miami-Dade County.

00:57:24.620 And I think he's going to win the state.

00:57:26.360 And I think that'll be a big reason why.

00:57:28.780 Well, obviously, he does need to win the state of Florida in order to retain the presidency.

00:57:31.900 If it goes the other way, it'll be an early night.

00:57:33.980 So you're talking about the timing and how fast the votes are tabulated.

00:57:36.860 So if we're watching tonight, what time do you think the votes are going to be all into the point where you're going to start seeing people call the state?

00:57:44.500 So what will happen is once the polls close, you'll get the initial dump of the early and absentee ballots.

00:57:53.220 And then you'll start to get the precincts reporting with Election Day votes.

00:57:57.220 So that's just a process that will take, you know, a couple hours.

00:58:00.520 So I think best case scenario, you're looking at nine, between nine and 10.

00:58:05.900 But I definitely think we're going to be able to make the call no later than that 10 o'clock to 11 o'clock hour.

00:58:12.200 It just depends on it.

00:58:14.200 Look, I think things are looking favorable for the president.

00:58:16.580 Does he win a typical Florida victory, you know, 80,000 votes?

00:58:20.260 Or with this ballot advantage and strength that he'll have today with in-person voting, you know, does he does he win by 250,000?

00:58:28.960 And I think both are possible.

00:58:31.060 Obviously, if it's the latter, we're going to be able to determine that, you know, closer to 9 p.m. and 11 p.m.

00:58:37.800 Governor, do Floridians count Donald Trump as one of their own?

00:58:40.620 Obviously, he he lives in the state a great deal of the time.

00:58:43.300 Mar-a-Lago, such a beautiful, such a beautiful location there in Palm Beach.

00:58:47.160 How do Floridians perceive Donald Trump?

00:58:50.360 I think that they do see a connection with Florida.

00:58:53.640 And obviously, you do have Mar-a-Lago.

00:58:56.060 He goes down here in the winter and has been doing that for a long time.

00:58:59.520 He's also been very smart in tending to Florida issues.

00:59:03.780 Now, part of it's because I call him and bug him to do certain things.

00:59:06.920 But, I mean, we have certain issues here, like, you know, our water resources.

00:59:11.340 We're big fishing, boating state, our Everglades restoration.

00:59:14.640 Some of the military bases that he's helped save.

00:59:18.780 One of them was in the Panhandle Pope Air Force Base.

00:59:21.540 He's been very strong on space.

00:59:23.540 We have a huge space renaissance on the Space Coast of Florida right now, Cape Canaveral area.

00:59:29.040 So I think he's done a good job of tending to Florida issues.

00:59:31.700 He's also been good on supporting democracy in Latin America, which is very important to a lot of our residents in southern Florida.

00:59:39.960 So I think that, yes, they count them, but I think what he's done is he's really done things that resonate with Floridians in a way that, you know, like a Biden just wouldn't do without having that connection.

00:59:52.580 But I would also say I'm a native Floridian.

00:59:56.040 Yeah, I'm proud of it.

00:59:56.800 But at the same time, our state's always in flux.

00:59:59.100 I mean, you always have new people coming.

01:00:01.760 It's just not the same.

01:00:03.120 Being a lifelong Floridian doesn't get you as much as, say, if you were a lifelong, you know, resident of some of the other states that have a little bit more stable populations.

01:00:13.500 Well, Ben alluded to this at the beginning.

01:00:15.460 You've been the best governor in the country in dealing with the COVID crisis.

01:00:18.600 Can you tell us just briefly a little bit about your philosophy on how to handle COVID, why you've done, why you've been able to preserve liberty in your state in a way that many governors haven't been able to, and when you're going to run for president and when we can vote for you?

01:00:31.920 So, you know, March, there was a lot we were still learning.

01:00:35.780 I mean, I thought it was pretty clear by mid-March that this had a disproportionate effect on elderly.

01:00:40.940 So we focused a lot of our efforts on the nursing homes.

01:00:43.720 Now, of course, you know, we were sending PPE.

01:00:45.640 We were doing things like that.

01:00:46.680 We didn't necessarily have all the testing supplies at that point.

01:00:50.260 We did the 15 days to slow the spread and kind of just followed the president's coronavirus task force.

01:00:56.420 But then what you started to see in April were these serological studies to show that for every documented case, there was 10 times as many actual infections, which meant a couple things.

01:01:07.340 One, it meant that the lethality of this was less than we thought.

01:01:11.040 And, in fact, if you look under the age of 50, the survival rate is 99.98 percent per CDC analysis.

01:01:21.680 And then we all – but it also means that it's much more prevalent than we thought.

01:01:25.140 You know, we thought in March there would – maybe there's a COVID case in this county or three cases.

01:01:29.560 Let's find it.

01:01:30.160 Let's isolate it.

01:01:30.940 It turns out that this was something that a lot of the people that had had didn't develop significant symptoms.

01:01:36.940 It was more prevalent in the community.

01:01:38.720 So for me, you know, I thought at that point it made sense that we needed to make sure we opened the state and move forward in that.

01:01:46.080 We did it deliberately, but we were resolute in doing it.

01:01:48.740 And I think what we've been able to see is the areas – look at what's happening in Europe.

01:01:53.540 You know, you had a lot of harsh mandates, lockdowns.

01:01:56.260 Over the summer, people were celebrating that.

01:01:58.580 But really, they just had a seasonal respite, and now it's coming back.

01:02:02.420 And so I think you're better off with an age-specific strategy focusing on support for our most vulnerable residents but having society function.

01:02:12.440 So, for example, in Florida, all 67 counties, we have school open for in-person, school districts, charter schools, private schools.

01:02:21.660 In fact, of the 10 most populous school districts in the country, five are in Florida, all open.

01:02:28.820 The other five, New York City, they have about 10 percent of the kids in person.

01:02:33.100 Chicago closed.

01:02:34.920 Los Angeles closed.

01:02:36.840 Las Vegas closed.

01:02:38.360 Houston, I think, has just started getting kids back.

01:02:41.220 And I think what's been frustrating on this is, one, it's been very political because they wanted to use it against the president.

01:02:49.720 But just the lack of fidelity to data and evidence.

01:02:54.120 I mean, on schools, it was very clear by May that schools needed to open in the fall.

01:02:59.320 You had studies done in Europe which were conclusive, and there was literally no countervailing evidence.

01:03:05.620 And so we pushed forward with doing that in July, saying parents have a right to send their kids to school.

01:03:11.260 If you don't want to do it, you want to do distance, fine, but we have to do it.

01:03:14.800 Oh, my gosh, the people were complaining, all this other stuff.

01:03:18.620 Sure enough, we've gone into school, and the parents that opted for distance learning, a lot of them are itching to get the kid back in person.

01:03:26.220 Very few parents that opted for in person are trying to get their kid into distance learning.

01:03:31.680 But we knew that, obviously, the kids were not significant risk for this, certainly less than flu.

01:03:37.860 But we also knew they weren't significant spread for the vectors in the community.

01:03:42.880 And, Fred, we have not had a single example of a student infecting a teacher.

01:03:46.580 And I don't think very many states or countries have very many examples of that as well.

01:03:51.580 So I just think that the data, focusing on the data, understanding that just from a health perspective, one virus is not the sum total of everything involving health.

01:04:02.380 I mean, when you start having a myopic focus on just coronavirus at all costs, you cause problems with mental health, you cause problems with other ailments.

01:04:12.260 I mean, we had people so scared in this country that they would literally be having heart attacks at home, but they wouldn't go into the emergency department because they thought they were going to get corona and die from that.

01:04:23.380 And that's just basically fear that was whipped up by the media irresponsibly.

01:04:27.920 So we focused on mental health, focus on helping people who are abusing drugs, focusing on getting people into the hospital.

01:04:35.800 I mean, the thing about that started all this, remember that the hospitals were somehow going to be overrun.

01:04:41.080 There's not been any hospital system in the country.

01:04:43.420 Even New York was not overrun.

01:04:45.440 They did not use the ship.

01:04:47.120 They did not use the Javits Center.

01:04:48.980 And I can tell you at Florida's peak, we had about 9,600 COVID positive patients in Florida hospitals, but we have 65,000 licensed hospital beds.

01:04:59.820 And so we never even came close to capacity.

01:05:03.340 And the fact that that's the case, it really should inform how you do this.

01:05:08.480 And so I think we're in a situation now where we have, obviously, businesses open, schools open, and really trusting people to make decisions about, you know, the environments that they're comfortable being in.

01:05:21.100 But I think what we found is the more and more we've returned to normal, I think the more and more people appreciate it.

01:05:27.560 Well, Governor DeSantis, really appreciate your time.

01:05:29.620 And frankly, look forward to getting out of this hellhole and getting back to your wonderful state over the next couple of days.

01:05:34.240 And look forward to seeing you in person there.

01:05:35.580 Absolutely. Take care.

01:05:37.880 Governor Ron DeSantis from the great state of Florida, one of the states that will have the most impact on what happens as the night goes through.

01:05:43.260 You heard him say, importantly, that while the polls closed in the eastern time zone in Florida five minutes ago, the polls do not close in the panhandle until an hour from now.

01:05:53.860 And if you're standing in line in Florida, you will still get in to vote.

01:05:56.280 So if you're in line, stay in line.

01:05:58.440 Don't forfeit your right to register your choice in this election.

01:06:03.200 And that's something I've actually been harping on a lot on Twitter.

01:06:05.880 A lot of my friends will say, I voted for Donald Trump.

01:06:08.080 Don't blame me.

01:06:08.580 I voted for Donald Trump.

01:06:09.720 And I'll say, oh, that's great.

01:06:11.980 When you voted for him, who'd you vote for for congressman?

01:06:14.960 Well, I mean, I didn't actually vote for him.

01:06:16.640 I mean, I support him.

01:06:17.400 I mean, he's my guy.

01:06:18.220 I got a bumper sticker on my pickup truck.

01:06:19.880 I'm like, no, no, no, no.

01:06:20.740 To vote. 1.00

01:06:21.640 It comes from the Latin votum, which means get off your sorry ass and go register your choice on a ballot. 0.99

01:06:28.100 But as in, I like Donald Trump, I shall go and vote him for him in Latin. 0.99

01:06:33.240 That's how you say it in Latin.

01:06:33.960 That was good.

01:06:34.560 That was good pronunciation.

01:06:35.680 So please, if you're in line in Florida, stay in line in Florida.

01:06:38.740 If you're in line anywhere in the country when your polling place closes, stay where you are.

01:06:42.620 Make sure that your vote is counted tonight.

01:06:45.460 Can I just comment for just a minute on the governor, what the stuff he was saying, just from a kind of sensory point of view?

01:06:52.460 I have been listening to the left talk about Donald Trump.

01:06:56.040 Joe Biden said this. 0.99

01:06:57.160 He is the virus. 0.96

01:06:58.360 And I keep thinking, gosh, these people sound like children. 0.81

01:07:01.440 Is that me?

01:07:02.140 You know, I mean, am I just hearing this kind of toddler logic where Donald Trump is the big man, so he must be spreading the disease?

01:07:09.640 The sound of that guy was so adult and so rational.

01:07:12.820 And the words coming out of his mouth made so much sense that I thought, no, they actually are children.

01:07:17.480 Well, more than even children.

01:07:19.240 Honestly, they have a cult like religious fervor around Trump.

01:07:21.860 It really is.

01:07:22.520 It really is that they believe. 0.99

01:07:24.000 And they've made this clear that Trump is the devil. 0.93

01:07:28.160 They really, it is that. 0.99

01:07:29.860 It is. 0.65

01:07:30.120 Trump is this sort of cloud that follows pig pen around in the Peanuts comic.

01:07:34.080 And if you get rid of Trump, then COVID magically goes away.

01:07:36.420 That's why over the last 48 hours, 72 hours, Joe Biden's final pitch was, I'm not really kidding, that he was going to be your parent, the pope, if you're like Michael, or God.

01:07:46.980 It was those three things.

01:07:48.040 He literally said that if he's elected, he will treat you like members of his family.

01:07:51.600 And I thought, excellent, I can now pick up bags of cash in Ukraine and China. 0.96

01:07:54.300 He also suggested that he was going to save our collective soul, which is, if I have to hear that crap from one more politician, that he's going to save my soul. 0.96

01:08:00.800 You're right. 0.97

01:08:01.220 The 78-year-old geriatric, can't-put-a-sentence-together, lifelong, corrupt bureaucrat who shifted every major position he ever held, including one where he used to be pro-life to pro-choice.

01:08:09.640 That guy is going to save my soul.

01:08:10.980 And then his final pitch was that he was going to crush the virus, right?

01:08:14.560 I'm not going to crush the economy.

01:08:15.920 I'm not going to crush it.

01:08:17.100 I'm not going to crush your hopes.

01:08:18.180 I'm going to crush the virus.

01:08:19.420 Really? 0.72

01:08:19.800 Like, with your foot or what?

01:08:20.900 Like, how is it?

01:08:21.520 I feel like Hillary Clinton with a cloth.

01:08:23.260 It's so small.

01:08:23.740 Right?

01:08:23.980 It's so small.

01:08:24.680 You get smack.

01:08:25.680 The virus is gone.

01:08:26.660 And I thought to myself, this is Captain Moonshot to kill cancer, as though people aren't trying to kill cancer. 0.71

01:08:31.320 Like, the enormous religious faith that is invested in the power of government by so many people on the left is sickening. 0.95

01:08:38.240 It is wrong. 0.61

01:08:39.240 It is counterproductive.

01:08:40.380 And it is childish and cold.

01:08:41.840 But you know why this.

01:08:42.760 I mean, the census is saying something perfectly obvious.

01:08:44.640 You can't crush the virus.

01:08:45.480 All you can do is deal with it and protect the most vulnerable.

01:08:47.540 That used to be how we all dealt with medical problems, was it not?

01:08:49.920 Yeah.

01:08:50.200 But the reason why, of course, is that everybody's got to serve somebody.

01:08:53.860 So you'll always hear the left talk about religious kooks. 0.57

01:08:56.320 The left, which believes that babies aren't human and believes that men can be women and believes the world is going to end in 10 years.

01:09:01.580 So you do have a natural religious longing, and you put it on this guy.

01:09:04.920 I mean, this has been going on for a very long time in this country.

01:09:08.380 And most recently, I guess, Barack Obama, who said that the earth would heal and the oceans would lower if you elect him.

01:09:14.940 Michelle said he was going to take out our heart of stone and replace it with a heart of flesh, basically.

01:09:18.800 That's right.

01:09:19.220 That really did.

01:09:19.860 Yes.

01:09:20.200 Isn't that one of the Indiana Jones movies?

01:09:22.060 You know, the statement that Biden made that I thought was most shocking in a campaign of shocking and mostly incomprehensible statements was when he came out and he said that if I had been president, 220,000 Americans would be alive, that no one would have died, that America, unlike every other country on earth, would have no deaths from the virus.

01:09:42.780 And if you believe that, then Donald Trump really must be the virus.

01:09:45.660 I wish that President Trump had asked Biden, hey, Joe, if you've been president, can you give me a number?

01:09:50.320 Can you give me a specific number?

01:09:51.540 That's right.

01:09:51.800 100,000, 100.

01:09:53.040 And unfortunately, we didn't get that hit in.

01:09:55.920 You would have gotten the crappy sound by, not nearly as many has died under you, but that's not the answer, right?

01:10:01.620 The answer is how many people.

01:10:03.260 Give me a number.

01:10:04.140 So the early polls on the East Coast are starting to close.

01:10:07.300 I want to go to our Daily Wire election war room where Alicia and John Bickley are going to give us a little bit of analysis about what we can expect next.

01:10:16.060 Some of those states have already been called, unsurprisingly, of course, Vermont and Virginia going to Biden and Harris.

01:10:22.640 Once again, that's unsurprising.

01:10:24.500 And the polls just closed in Florida.

01:10:26.200 And here for a breakdown of what we need to be looking for in Florida is the Daily Wire's own Ian Howarth.

01:10:32.180 Ian, what are we looking at?

01:10:34.000 What's the lay of the land in Florida, 2016 versus 2020, laid out there for us?

01:10:37.880 So people, when they think about Florida, they think of a few things.

01:10:40.540 They think of always a closely run race.

01:10:42.620 So 2000.

01:10:43.660 Painting chads.

01:10:44.160 Yep.

01:10:44.440 It took a month of legal wrangling to sort that mess out.

01:10:47.380 2012, they were the only state to actually decide by under 1% between Barack Obama and Mitt Romney.

01:10:52.800 Wow.

01:10:53.080 So it's always close.

01:10:54.260 People think about Florida as like MAGA country.

01:10:56.760 But Trump only won by 1.6% in 2016.

01:11:00.220 So we can assume it's going to be very close.

01:11:01.880 Because it's really also, as I spoke with Cabot earlier, it's one of the crucial states that Trump just simply has to win if he wants to have a hope.

01:11:08.340 So what parts of the state should we be paying attention to?

01:11:11.440 Is it those metropolitan areas?

01:11:12.940 Is it the panhandle?

01:11:14.380 What are you looking at?

01:11:15.400 So I think we should keep an eye on the panhandle, the north of the state, because he has to have a big turnout there.

01:11:20.500 But that's almost assumed.

01:11:21.480 I think given the parades we see, those boat parades, I went in a boat parade.

01:11:24.580 Really fun.

01:11:25.000 So we need to then be focusing on the bluer areas towards Miami-Dade, Broward County.

01:11:30.880 Those are counties where Hillary Clinton won by almost 300,000 votes in each county.

01:11:34.860 She's still lost.

01:11:35.980 So Democrats will be hoping for a huge vote to turn out there.

01:11:38.940 It's actually been kind of interesting in terms of turnout.

01:11:41.560 Early polls suggested that the Republicans were actually having better turnout proportionally compared to Democrats.

01:11:46.900 But other polls are coming in and saying that Democrats are actually outpacing Republicans as the day went on.

01:11:53.360 So it's really hard to tell.

01:11:54.420 And then also in 2016, Donald Trump was able to outperform even the polls of what they thought he might get in the Cuban-American community.

01:12:03.060 Could that help him make up some of those pretty liberal places?

01:12:07.260 Because Cuban-Americans tend to reside in that Palm Beach, Dade County, Miami area.

01:12:12.960 Yeah, I think this will be a huge community that he'll be certainly looking at quite closely.

01:12:16.300 In 2016, he got between 50% and 54% of the Cuban-American vote.

01:12:20.540 This year, some polls suggest it's actually going to be near 60%.

01:12:23.480 Oh, wow.

01:12:23.840 If that's true, that's going to be a huge deal for Trump.

01:12:26.220 If it's not true, then he's going to really have to pull some votes out of somewhere.

01:12:29.320 Okay, so we will be continuing to bring all of y'all the information as people are calling states and polls are closing everywhere.

01:12:36.320 A lot of people are paying attention to the trend of Florida, though,

01:12:39.200 because if President Trump and Mike Pence can't pull it out in Florida, you know,

01:12:43.620 their pathway to victory just continues to get smaller and smaller.

01:12:47.380 So when we have more updates, we'll be bringing those to all of y'all.

01:12:51.340 Thank you, Ian, and thank you, Alicia.

01:12:53.860 So I've been telling you guys all night that we were going to have some big announcements tonight,

01:12:56.440 and they're all focused on the exact same issue, which is that we have to replace the media.

01:13:03.480 You have this establishment media in this country in connection, in conjunction with social media in this country,

01:13:10.040 deciding what kind of stories you get to hear and what kind of stories you don't,

01:13:13.860 what kind of expression you get to have and what kind of expression you don't.

01:13:18.140 And I don't think we've done enough to communicate the scope of the problem.

01:13:22.860 The New York Times is essential.

01:13:24.720 Even for us, the New York Times is essential.

01:13:27.440 The New York Times has 4,500 employees.

01:13:31.380 They have 1,600 active journalists.

01:13:35.220 They have a budget of $1.2 billion a year.

01:13:39.280 They do over $100 million of profit every year.

01:13:43.060 You want to know why conservatives aren't great at investigative journalism.

01:13:46.020 You want to know why conservatives are at such a disadvantage when it comes to subjecting the left

01:13:50.760 to the kind of scrutiny that the left subjects us to.

01:13:53.220 That's because the New York Times is only one piece of the establishment media juggernaut.

01:13:59.380 There is nothing like that that exists on the right.

01:14:01.800 Now, you might say, right, but you're saying there's nothing like it on the right.

01:14:05.660 There's nothing like it on the left either.

01:14:07.040 The New York Times is mainstream.

01:14:08.700 They're in the middle.

01:14:09.780 They are not in the middle.

01:14:10.520 There's more diversity of opinion at the Daily Wire about Donald Trump than there is in the entire 4,500-person staff of the New York Times,

01:14:19.180 where there is no diversity of opinion about Donald Trump.

01:14:22.480 Name one single prominent pro-Trump Republican conservative voice at the New York Times.

01:14:27.500 4,500 employees.

01:14:28.900 I'm not asking for 1%.

01:14:30.180 I'm asking for a single person.

01:14:32.600 You cannot do it.

01:14:33.640 It does not exist.

01:14:34.900 That's how badly they have us outmaneuvered.

01:14:36.680 The way that we're going to deal with that is to replace them.

01:14:39.880 End your subscription to New York Times.

01:14:41.620 End your subscription to the Washington Post.

01:14:43.920 End your, cut your cable.

01:14:45.660 Cut the cord.

01:14:46.460 You know that some of the money of your cable bill goes to CNN, whether you watch CNN or not.

01:14:50.180 Some of the money you pay for cable goes to MSNBC, whether you watch MSNBC or not,

01:14:54.580 because of carriage fees, you are funding the left as they try to take your freedoms away from you.

01:15:00.760 The only way we're going to stop that is to replace them.

01:15:02.700 And to replace them, we on our side of the ideological divide have to up our game.

01:15:07.700 Part of that means we have to get out and lead, and part of it means we need you to follow.

01:15:10.980 We need your support.

01:15:11.640 We need your help.

01:15:12.580 So Daily Wire is going to start taking the lead in this fight in ways that we have not before.

01:15:18.840 We have a ton of huge announcements coming for you tonight.

01:15:22.080 And the first one is going to come courtesy of our guest, Candace Owens.

01:15:27.820 Candace is the founder of the Blexit Foundation.

01:15:30.820 Candace is the host of the Candace Owens Show for PragerU. 0.60

01:15:33.540 She's one of the most important, not only political, but I would say cultural voices in the country today.

01:15:39.280 She's beaming in from Washington, D.C., because I'm just going to be honest with you,

01:15:43.260 we can't afford to get Candace to L.A. 1.00

01:15:45.820 because she moves all over the world all the time. 0.94

01:15:49.260 She's busy doing the work of not just commenting on culture, but creating culture and changing culture.

01:15:55.380 She's here with us tonight.

01:15:56.380 We couldn't be more thrilled to have her.

01:15:58.100 Candace, are you with us?

01:16:00.060 I am with you.

01:16:01.380 Hey, there's Candace. 0.85

01:16:02.320 All right.

01:16:02.900 How's it going?

01:16:03.840 Hello.

01:16:04.620 Can you?

01:16:06.140 So we're hearing reports right now about rioting taking place in Washington, D.C.

01:16:11.060 So the first question is, are you safe?

01:16:14.160 I am safe.

01:16:15.200 I am safe right now in the studio.

01:16:16.920 But I will tell you, just leading up to this, the last couple of days, watching all the boarding going up.

01:16:21.820 And here's what's really remarkable.

01:16:23.560 On a lot of these stores and on these boards, they're actually writing, we support Black Lives Matter.

01:16:28.780 And you have to ask yourself, why would a business owner first board up his business and then write, we support Black Lives Matter?

01:16:34.800 And the answer is simple.

01:16:35.860 It's because they recognize that it is Black Lives Matter.

01:16:38.760 It is Antifa.

01:16:39.540 It is the left that is doing these riots.

01:16:41.680 And I actually have a friend who runs a gym, and he tells me that he puts a sign in his window that says, we support Black Lives Matter.

01:16:47.200 And I know he does not support Black Lives Matter.

01:16:49.600 He is not left-leaning.

01:16:50.620 He is a Republican.

01:16:51.420 But he does that because today, that for business owners is like putting up, like, Sloan's shield, you know?

01:16:56.960 Please don't riot.

01:16:57.960 Please don't burn us down.

01:17:00.080 We support you.

01:17:01.120 And it's very sad that we've gotten to this point.

01:17:03.580 And then just getting to this studio, I don't live too far from the studio.

01:17:06.540 It should have been a five-minute drive.

01:17:08.320 It took 30 minutes because of street closures, because of riots.

01:17:11.880 I mean, the left is ready to go, and they've been planning this for months and months.

01:17:15.860 And my question, I guess, that I would ask is, how come the FBI hasn't been able to shut down this cell?

01:17:20.580 How have they been able to coordinate this?

01:17:22.580 How are they bringing in U-Hauls and metal bats and all of these things of this nature?

01:17:27.220 So it's incredibly frustrating that it's come to this point.

01:17:29.760 We should have been able to suspect this and to guard against it.

01:17:32.560 But D.C. is really, really scary right now.

01:17:36.000 We just know that we're going to expect a lot later on in the night.

01:17:39.460 Yeah, it's really remarkable that, to your point, that the FBI hasn't been able to get on top of that.

01:17:44.440 And I kind of want to kick that around and have it as a discussion with the five of us.

01:17:47.700 Is the reason, I mean, obviously one reason is that free speech is sacred in this country.

01:17:52.660 And so you expect our law enforcement to get the maximum latitude possible, right?

01:17:56.680 You want them to err on the side of letting people overexpress and not underexpress.

01:18:00.840 But given what we've seen in the country in the wake of the George Floyd killing,

01:18:04.820 given what we've seen in the CHAS chop zone in Seattle, the constant burning of Portland,

01:18:10.600 the burning of Minneapolis, it's been going on for months and months.

01:18:13.300 Why is it that the federal law enforcement hasn't been more proactive in cracking down on this?

01:18:18.840 It's a really good question, because when Donald Trump announced that he was going to enforce the law

01:18:23.000 against pulling over statues and vandalism, that largely stopped.

01:18:26.580 That was a big movement and it largely went away.

01:18:29.160 And, you know, the FBI sent out something like a dozen agents to investigate what turned out to be a hoax attack

01:18:36.240 on a black NASCAR driver as if there was some major civil rights problem there, which there wasn't. 0.91

01:18:42.460 And yet they can't seem to infiltrate or at least start to discourage these people.

01:18:48.240 I have to I have faith.

01:18:49.600 I have faith that the FBI is on it, that they're looking at it.

01:18:52.200 I don't think the FBI is totally gone.

01:18:54.240 I think obviously they're under James Comey.

01:18:56.480 Their leadership was corrupted.

01:18:58.520 But I don't think that the agents are corrupt.

01:19:00.340 But, you know, I hope that they're working.

01:19:01.500 Yeah, Michael, is it is it is it that they're complicit?

01:19:04.640 Is it a deep space, deep state conspiracy against the president?

01:19:07.080 Yes.

01:19:07.320 Or is it strategic on the part of the president?

01:19:09.060 That's it.

01:19:09.440 It's that they're complicit.

01:19:10.500 I've talked to friends of mine who are in the administration who have worked at some of these various swamp agencies in the deep state.

01:19:16.040 And you can go agency by agency and know their ideological leanings.

01:19:20.680 Now, you might say agencies aren't supposed to have ideological leanings, but they do.

01:19:24.680 And we've we always joke about the State Department, for instance, is always pretty far left.

01:19:29.220 But this is true.

01:19:29.760 You can go down the line.

01:19:30.480 FBI, CIA, all the all the various alphabet agencies.

01:19:33.980 And they have consistently undermined the president.

01:19:36.320 And part of this, by the way, might not be some nefarious tinfoil hat conspiracy.

01:19:40.460 Part of this is that people at those agencies just happen to share the views of Black Lives Matter or Antifa or of the Democratic Party.

01:19:48.120 I guess they're basically all the same thing now.

01:19:50.060 And so it's very difficult to root that out because the president gets elected.

01:19:52.800 He's there for four years or hopefully eight years.

01:19:54.760 But the agencies are so deep.

01:19:57.420 Give you an example.

01:19:58.040 Do you know how many people are employed by the Department of Homeland Security?

01:20:01.640 Quarter million people.

01:20:02.880 Quarter.

01:20:03.380 Yes.

01:20:03.840 It only existed for five minutes.

01:20:06.060 Yeah.

01:20:06.440 But, you know, almost 20 years now.

01:20:08.400 But you're right.

01:20:08.740 Sixteen to 20 years.

01:20:10.060 And it's that large.

01:20:11.560 It's taken in other agencies.

01:20:13.020 That's the tip of the iceberg on this on this federal bureaucracy.

01:20:16.400 So the problem runs very, very deep.

01:20:19.140 Ben, do you buy it?

01:20:20.320 Is it is it?

01:20:21.180 Honestly, I find it a less interesting question as to what because you can speculate all day as to what closed agencies are doing behind closed doors.

01:20:26.980 Like I have no clue and I'm not going to pretend I have a clue. 0.80

01:20:29.520 What I find a lot more troubling is the fact that the entire media and Democratic Party apparatus continue to cover for this bull crap and then suggest that we're wrong for even wanting to ask questions about it. 0.66

01:20:37.320 That if you if you even question whether Black Lives Matter has violent connections and why so many of these protests turn into riots, this this is because you are not sufficiently anti-racist or you have Joe Biden suggesting that Antifa is a philosophy rather than actual group. 0.86

01:20:49.440 I mean, that's that's more troubling considering we're in an election year.

01:20:52.220 I mean, the politicization of the of the intelligence agencies has been an ongoing issue. 0.98

01:20:56.200 But having a party overtly embrace this crap, I think, is a much, much bigger issue. 0.97

01:21:00.280 I know Candace has talked about that at length. 0.98

01:21:01.480 Yeah. Candace, listen, one of the things we love about you at The Daily Wire is that you're a cultural figure.

01:21:08.440 And I know that only talking to you about race issues is actually a waste of of your insight.

01:21:13.300 But I do think it's important in this particular election to talk about the work that you've done with Blexit.

01:21:18.240 There's a lot of talk, especially on the right, about how we might see a major swing in not only the black men in particular voting for the president,

01:21:26.800 but also the Hispanic population, something that Ben has observed firsthand happening down in Florida.

01:21:32.020 You probably have your your finger on the temperature of that movement more than anybody else in the country.

01:21:36.720 What do you think happens tonight? Are we going to see something historic?

01:21:39.900 Are we going to see something different than what we've seen in the past?

01:21:44.320 Absolutely. And so first off, I will say how remarkable is it to consider that over the last four years, the left could not have harped on race harder?

01:21:52.100 I mean, how many times if we actually had a ticker like we have a covid-19 death ticker, if we had a racism ticker on CNN and MSNBC every time they said the word racist, what would the number be?

01:22:02.480 Seriously, I mean, it's a hard question. Right. And yet, despite that, despite that, they are acknowledging that black American support is shifting towards Republican Party, is shifting towards President Trump.

01:22:12.880 That's a very dangerous spot for Democrats to be in, of course, because they cannot.

01:22:16.600 They have to at least get eighty five percent of the black votes to stay in their party.

01:22:21.900 And and I've always felt I instantly said in 2020, I think Trump can get 20 points.

01:22:26.180 And people thought that was a pipe dream and it was never a pipe dream.

01:22:29.060 It was just so obvious. You just needed somebody to actually communicate to black Americans in a cultural manner, which is what I've tried to do.

01:22:36.720 What is actually going on? We've been married to this party for 70 years and nothing has changed.

01:22:41.880 And the problem is, I think, Republican Party for a really long time, it's almost like they're suffering PTSD.

01:22:47.600 You guys have been called racist for so long that, you know, when now when somebody calls you racist, you just let them shut down the conversation.

01:22:53.620 And it needed to be somebody like Donald Trump, because he's the only person I know that he gets called racist and he doubles down on whatever it is he said.

01:23:01.120 Right. Black America, what do you have to lose? Remember, they all freaked out and said, oh, my goodness, how could he possibly say that?

01:23:06.740 It's so racist. And now it's his favorite thing to say in front of minority crowds. 0.96

01:23:10.560 Black America, I asked you in 2016, what do you have to lose? And clearly the answer was nothing.

01:23:16.020 I did see an article two days ago, which made me really happy about black men between the ages of 25 and 35.

01:23:22.000 They're already calling them chauvinists. They're saying the reason the reason they're getting behind Trump is because they're chauvinists.

01:23:28.960 So black men, welcome to the Republican Party when you kind of just collect the sexist misogynist. 0.97

01:23:35.500 I say it's like a game of Pokemon. I've got to catch them all. 0.98

01:23:38.740 I didn't expect to get the white supremacist one. I got that one randomly in a news article.

01:23:43.820 I'm really winning the leftist Pokemon game. But yeah, so they the polls a couple of weeks ago said eight percent black support on moves.

01:23:53.160 And I was like, you have got to be kidding me. Now they're saying 14 percent.

01:23:56.180 And I think it's going to be a little bit higher, which is going to be it's going to be a game changer.

01:24:00.360 It's going to be the first opportunity for the Republican Party to win back the black vote. 0.73

01:24:05.480 Well, if that does happen, you're going to be one of the most important people in the country because you, more than any other person other than the president himself, have devoted so much of your attention to that issue.

01:24:14.440 I do think we have to give some credit to the president on this as well is his I don't like to use terms like outreach to the black community.

01:24:21.280 I mean, you're talking about Americans outreach. It's absurd. 0.79

01:24:24.540 But what Donald Trump has done that I think Republicans have been afraid to do in the past is he actually just talks to people who might hate him.

01:24:31.840 And I think he's able to do that because so many people hate him.

01:24:34.300 He's actually he's actually comfortable in environments where people aren't kind to him because he's accustomed, even just being a builder in New York, probably his entire life.

01:24:43.480 He's been talking to people who don't necessarily like him and trying to find common cause with them.

01:24:47.860 And he's done a fairly remarkable job.

01:24:49.520 I mean, when you talk about communities in the United States who have just gotten both from politicians for decades.

01:24:54.340 Yeah. And the black community in the United States has gotten both from politicians literally since the beginnings of the country.

01:24:59.960 And Donald Trump, when he talks to people, there's not tons of bullshit. 0.96

01:25:03.460 I mean, and cutting through it and speaking the way that he does, I think, actually translates really well. 0.69

01:25:07.500 The non-politician aspect of Trump speaks very differently than the same typical political speak that you get from every other politician who gets in front of that crowd.

01:25:14.180 And so does what Candace mentioned, his his thick skin, which is part of some of the things that maybe we dislike about him sometimes.

01:25:21.440 But it's also one of the reasons he is where he is.

01:25:24.320 You have to have to take on the left.

01:25:27.100 Think of the massiveness of the legacy media.

01:25:29.500 Think of how the corporate power of the legacy media.

01:25:32.340 And this guy has been standing up against them all by his lonesome for four years.

01:25:37.500 And he is just kind of eating it up and spit it out.

01:25:40.500 And this is the hardest thing, because America is a country that has reckoned with its historic racism.

01:25:45.020 And we don't want to go there again.

01:25:46.820 And so we're sensitive to the charge.

01:25:48.420 And the left has used that to batter people into submission.

01:25:51.020 And only Trump's turtle shell of a skin could withstand it.

01:25:56.360 Well, you saw it.

01:25:57.000 I'm sorry.

01:25:57.340 Go ahead.

01:25:57.460 You saw it just the other day with Chelsea Handler, right? 0.54

01:25:59.640 When I don't know how President Trump is doing among the black community, but he's totally killing it among the rap community. 1.00

01:26:04.840 Kanye, Lil Pump, Lil Wayne and 50 Cent.

01:26:08.000 And so 50 Cent comes out and says, yeah, OK, I like Trump.

01:26:10.020 I don't want to be 20 Cent.

01:26:10.780 And Chelsea Handler said, I couldn't believe the words came out of her mouth. 0.82

01:26:13.480 She said, I had to remind him that he was a black man.

01:26:18.000 And she did.

01:26:18.860 And then she also offered him some sort of favors if he voted for Biden.

01:26:21.900 We kind of did.

01:26:22.500 But anyway, I don't want to get into it.

01:26:24.940 But it is unbelievable.

01:26:26.820 Could you imagine a political coalition 10 years ago, five years ago, where you've got an Amish parade and a rapper parade going on side by side?

01:26:35.060 I mean, I can imagine a political coalition with an Orthodox Jew and a platinum bestselling rapper in the same coalition for Donald Trump and in this room.

01:26:46.060 It's true.

01:26:47.160 One of the things I love about our team here at The Daily Wire is just how different we all are.

01:26:50.960 And yet we have this kind of community that I think other publications don't like.

01:26:54.840 It's actually, you know, when we were planning this show, we thought, well, we want to do as good a job as, say, Fox News at bringing people information.

01:27:03.480 And now I don't want to, you know, they can go down to the precinct level.

01:27:06.200 So I don't want to say that we fully succeeded at that.

01:27:08.340 But we set a high goal for ourselves.

01:27:09.620 We're going to bring people the best, deepest, most up-to-date information that we can through the night.

01:27:13.780 But we also want to really focus on what makes us us, what makes us unique, what makes us other than cable news.

01:27:18.900 And a big part of that is just this.

01:27:20.920 You're smoking a cigar.

01:27:21.860 We're having conversation that might be a little unorthodox, things that you may not be able to get away with saying on cable, things that advertisers might boycott you over.

01:27:29.300 But part of that is because there's so much about us as a group that is unique.

01:27:34.780 You brought it up, Ben.

01:27:35.680 You're a very religious, from-orthodox Jew. 0.97

01:27:38.760 You've got Drew, who's documented his conversion from sort of secular Judaism to faithful Christianity.

01:27:45.720 You have Michael Knowles, who we all remember when he wasn't Catholic, but now he's a fairy. 1.00

01:27:49.620 He's like the biggest papist we know.

01:27:50.920 Yeah, the reverts go really hardcore.

01:27:53.600 More Catholic than the Pope doesn't mean what it used to be.

01:27:55.740 But he's still keen.

01:27:58.040 I'm essentially a Protestant cult leader when you really get into my personal list.

01:28:04.440 But you see some of this, too, not just on the religious side, not just on the political side.

01:28:08.700 You have Candace, who's actually quite close to the president. 0.95

01:28:11.680 You have Ben and I, who were major Trump skeptics in 2016.

01:28:14.840 You have the two of you who supported the president in 2016.

01:28:17.620 You have Michael, who not only supports—you have Michael, who actually just wishes that he was as successful as Candace at being friends with the president.

01:28:24.860 Yeah, why won't you call me back?

01:28:26.080 I call him all the time.

01:28:27.420 Candace, can you send in my texts?

01:28:30.860 Yes.

01:28:31.760 And that we're not afraid to engage in these ideas in a way that's friendly.

01:28:35.940 And one thing that Candace has that none of us have that I think is an important part of that is an actual foothold in the culture.

01:28:41.880 So, you know, somebody told me this week that I'm not famous.

01:28:44.460 And it kind of hurt my feelings because I'm at least like a P-list Internet celebrity.

01:28:49.480 I have a checkmark.

01:28:50.760 I got a blue checkmark.

01:28:51.780 What do you want from me?

01:28:52.360 You've got Ben, who's extraordinarily famous.

01:28:54.960 We've done these market surveys that where Ben—I'll brag on you for a minute.

01:28:58.780 Where Ben's the most famous conservative in the country in terms of social engagement.

01:29:03.400 He's higher than like the entire primetime Fox.

01:29:06.420 Candace is something—Candace, you're something that none of us are, which is not—it's not famous.

01:29:11.720 It's celebrity.

01:29:12.620 You've actually managed to become a cultural figure in a way that in my lifetime, no conservative—

01:29:18.360 no one who—let's say it differently—no one who started in the political sphere as a conservative pundit has been able to cross over into being a political celebrity.

01:29:27.780 You have people who've moved the other direction, people who were like—they used to have a big acting career, and then the parts stopped coming in, and then they realized they could talk about politics.

01:29:35.840 They used to be reality TV stars, and then they became president.

01:29:37.620 Yeah, for instance, it's an important—for example.

01:29:41.280 You've uniquely been able to cross that bridge the other way.

01:29:44.300 I'm very curious what that's like.

01:29:45.880 I mean, you kind of live a life that the rest of us will probably never get to live.

01:29:50.080 How are you received when you—and you don't have to name names—but how are you received behind the scenes when you deal with other people who are sort of cultural celebrities?

01:29:58.300 Is there more support out there than it seems like there is?

01:30:00.660 There definitely is, and I'll say this.

01:30:03.620 Everything that I did was much more strategic than people really gave me credit for.

01:30:07.860 I mean, I had to sort of sit down, and when I had, you know, my come-to moment, when I was like I lived my entire life as a lie.

01:30:13.700 I bought into the Democrat propaganda, the education system propaganda, and I emerged as a person who graduated high school and genuinely believed that Republicans were racist, that conservatives were racist.

01:30:24.160 I'm a pretty smart girl, so this stuff—it wasn't something that I came up with on my own.

01:30:28.540 It was actively taught to me.

01:30:29.860 And so when I wanted to, you know, kind of dabble into politics, the first thing I asked myself is how did the left do this to me?

01:30:36.040 And I wanted to intentionally, with intention, reverse engineer exactly what it was that deluded me to begin with.

01:30:43.180 And I understood how important culture was.

01:30:45.960 And Republicans and conservatives had just given up on culture.

01:30:49.500 Virtually everything you see—and you sort of hit at this earlier, Jeremy—but everything you see on TV is done at the expense of conservatives.

01:30:56.320 And I think for that reason, a lot of conservatives began to stick up their nose to culture and say, OK, we're just not going to do culture.

01:31:02.200 And we're just going to be the smart guys.

01:31:03.940 And I thought to myself, we have to be both, actually.

01:31:07.100 And I want to be funny.

01:31:09.240 I do.

01:31:09.900 I love culture.

01:31:10.580 I love music.

01:31:11.640 And, you know, I get it.

01:31:13.160 I get why people like rap music.

01:31:15.500 I know Ben doesn't like rap music, but I get why some people like rap music.

01:31:19.340 Ben is a fantastic rap artist.

01:31:21.280 I am an incredible rap artist.

01:31:22.820 In fact, I can take the lyrics of others and translate them in a way no one would have thought possible.

01:31:28.240 You were really good in rap.

01:31:30.200 I will say, rap, Daily Wire edition is—it should be able to dial a little better on iTunes.

01:31:34.020 The ladies appreciate it. 0.88

01:31:34.900 What can I say?

01:31:37.580 One of the things you said to me recently, Candice, that I found really interesting, you said,

01:31:40.800 I don't want people to know if I'm about to run for president or to drop a rap album.

01:31:45.360 I do think that volatility is part of what gives you the ability to do the things that you do.

01:31:50.980 By volatility, I mean that people don't know what to expect, right?

01:31:54.780 Right.

01:31:55.160 And that's exactly how I feel because I love so much of it.

01:31:57.720 And I think that both of it is really important.

01:31:59.860 And I think Andrew Breitbart was right years ago when he said politics is downstream from culture.

01:32:04.040 And we have to make sure that we're sort of connecting that.

01:32:06.860 And I've always wanted to exist as a conduit.

01:32:09.180 And I will say, to answer your earlier question, behind closed doors, it is incredible.

01:32:13.940 I mean, I wish I could publish a list of the A-list celebrities that I'm in communication with all around the world.

01:32:20.800 I mean, not just in America.

01:32:21.880 Obviously, my husband's British.

01:32:23.400 In England, you would just be shocked and go, oh, my goodness, we're all really doing something.

01:32:28.200 They know all of us.

01:32:29.020 They follow Ben Shapiro.

01:32:30.560 They follow Daily Wire.

01:32:32.240 You know, they're downloading the podcast.

01:32:33.860 It's incredible.

01:32:34.940 They know you specifically.

01:32:37.180 They bring you up first.

01:32:39.180 Yeah, you first.

01:32:42.620 And so we're having a huge impact.

01:32:44.440 And I think that because I've been sort of in between, they feel comfortable reaching out to me to have these sort of private meetings behind closed doors.

01:32:51.180 And I wish more of them would come out, you know, ahead of ahead of today.

01:32:54.740 They're not going to.

01:32:55.720 But I think you're going to expect a lot more A-listers after tonight is decided to come out in the next few months and really say what they believe.

01:33:02.600 And I think what you're doing is so important.

01:33:04.040 And the only thing that would make it cooler is if you did it with us.

01:33:07.000 You ought to just come join.

01:33:08.160 Me?

01:33:11.480 A woman joining the Daily Wire team? 0.95

01:33:15.120 Yeah, I'm second.

01:33:16.180 No, you're right.

01:33:16.680 The man's club?

01:33:18.040 I mean, if I will.

01:33:21.140 What's that?

01:33:21.540 What's that?

01:33:22.320 I said if any woman were going to be invited, it's you. 1.00

01:33:24.760 Come be Daily Wire.

01:33:25.680 I think 100 percent I will take you up on that offer if my slogan can be feelings don't care about your facts.

01:33:35.800 I love it.

01:33:36.500 I love that.

01:33:37.520 I love that.

01:33:38.940 That sounds like a deal.

01:33:39.760 A deal.

01:33:40.260 I'm not kidding, though.

01:33:40.920 Why don't you come join the Daily Wire?

01:33:43.360 I would love to join the Daily Wire.

01:33:45.920 I think there is a lot of stuff we could do together.

01:33:48.420 Should we make it official on Election Night America?

01:33:51.720 Am I joining the Daily Wire?

01:33:52.980 Is it real?

01:33:53.620 Ben Shapiro to you first.

01:33:55.680 Abs-a-fruit-ly.

01:33:56.760 Let's do this.

01:33:59.340 Michael Knowles, what do you think?

01:34:00.380 This is the most formal way, by the way, Jeremy's ever done business.

01:34:03.420 Usually it's just over, like, three drinks at a bar.

01:34:05.620 But at least now he'll do it in a casual conversation.

01:34:07.900 Yes, absolutely.

01:34:08.820 Come join us, Candace.

01:34:10.000 Andrew.

01:34:10.780 I've been lobbying for this for many, many years, Candace.

01:34:14.760 Please come over.

01:34:15.900 Save us.

01:34:16.460 Save us.

01:34:17.560 Oh, my gosh.

01:34:18.580 Well, then.

01:34:19.180 It is a done deal on election night.

01:34:21.240 This might be bigger than the results that come in.

01:34:23.240 That's pretty good.

01:34:23.760 Candace Owens is coming to Nashville, baby. 0.92

01:34:26.680 All right.

01:34:27.840 Well, this is – see, I told you we were going to break some news tonight.

01:34:31.180 Candace is going to make the move with us to Nashville. 1.00

01:34:33.440 And, Candace, I don't want to tell people too much about what we're working on.

01:34:36.340 This actually isn't a joke, guys.

01:34:37.420 Exactly.

01:34:37.540 No, this is not a joke.

01:34:38.420 Well, I mean, it's no more of a joke than everything else we do.

01:34:41.060 We are working on a show together.

01:34:43.700 Candace and I have been collaborating about this behind the scenes.

01:34:46.260 It will be unlike – not only unlike anything that's happened at the Daily Wire, I think

01:34:49.220 truly different in kind from anything that's ever happened in conservative new media.

01:34:54.060 We're not going to give you too many details because it's going to – we want it to be

01:34:57.820 impactful when it happens.

01:34:58.940 I'll give you the one hint, though.

01:35:00.180 It's going to be shot in front of a live studio audience in Nashville, and you're going to be able

01:35:04.700 to see it at the beginning of March.

01:35:06.760 Candace, we couldn't be more excited to have you on the team.

01:35:08.620 I'm so excited.

01:35:10.840 I think the time is now.

01:35:12.000 The energy feels right.

01:35:13.120 I've been saying for years at Conservatives, we're all doing different things.

01:35:16.100 We need to all come together under the same umbrella and just fight back for culture.

01:35:20.920 I mean, people are paying attention to us.

01:35:23.080 I know Ben Shapiro gets more downloads.

01:35:25.280 Michael Knowles gets more downloads.

01:35:26.420 We're bigger than CNN.

01:35:28.020 We're bigger than all of MSNBC, but we're not united, and it's high time.

01:35:33.280 So I couldn't be more excited.

01:35:34.400 I wish we could unveil more about what we've been working on.

01:35:36.820 It's going to be really good, guys.

01:35:38.860 2021 is going to be a really big year.

01:35:41.640 Well, thank you so much for making time for us tonight.

01:35:44.220 I know that you're in D.C.

01:35:45.460 You're probably invited to all kinds of parties that we'll never be invited to.

01:35:48.880 Let's hope that we're able to lift a glass later tonight and celebrate a huge Trump victory,

01:35:54.340 and we'll be telling people more and more about what we're working on together over the coming weeks.

01:35:58.560 Thank you, Candace.

01:35:59.120 Thank you guys so much.

01:36:01.720 I'm going to lift a glass to Candace. 1.00

01:36:02.980 Hey, to Candace.

01:36:03.740 Good.

01:36:04.220 Chin, chin. 0.76

01:36:04.940 All right.

01:36:05.660 This year's overflowing.

01:36:06.740 All right.

01:36:07.860 So that is the first of our big announcements for the night.

01:36:10.400 Candace Owens moving to Nashville, joining the Daily Wire.

01:36:13.460 We are going to replace the media.

01:36:15.600 That doesn't just mean replacing the media in terms of investigative journalism.

01:36:20.580 It doesn't just mean replacing the media in terms of cultural commentary.

01:36:24.760 It means we have to make culture.

01:36:26.100 We have to make the kinds of shows that they make.

01:36:28.320 We have to engage in fiction.

01:36:30.840 We have to engage in talk shows.

01:36:32.360 We have to engage in a broad swath of content that reaches people where they are,

01:36:37.560 and that's what we're going to be doing both with Candace

01:36:40.180 and in some other exciting announcements that we'll be making for you as the night goes on.

01:36:44.480 But right now, the polls have been closed on the East Coast for 37 minutes.

01:36:47.980 We know you're looking for an update on what's happening.

01:36:50.660 We are going to kick it to Elisha Krause in the Daily Wire election war room.

01:36:54.980 Hopefully, they're going to be able to walk us through some of what's been going on while we've been busy celebrating ourselves

01:36:59.320 and celebrating our newest addition in Candace Owens, who, again, pointed this out.

01:37:05.800 I think it's important that you know, not a joke.

01:37:08.780 Candace is actually joining us in Nashville for what is going to be just a truly, I mean,

01:37:14.380 revolutionary kind of change in the kind of content that you can come to expect in conservative media.

01:37:20.620 And, best of all, only one of the huge announcements that we have for you tonight.

01:37:25.880 So, guys, we're about to kick it to the war room and hear what's going on in the country.

01:37:29.940 But what are we seeing, though, first out on social media?

01:37:32.260 Are there any states reporting that are critical to the questions that we're asking tonight?

01:37:38.980 Yeah, so we have some updates here with Cabot, actually, one of the editors at the Daily Wire, Cabot.

01:37:44.120 I mean, we've been together all day long.

01:37:46.020 Three hours, and it wasn't enough.

01:37:48.180 Longer than that, a few hours I had to spend in hair and makeup, you were there with me.

01:37:52.060 So, what are some of the updates that are coming from the cable news networks

01:37:55.760 as those East Coast polls are closing, like Jeremy just laid out?

01:37:58.700 Yeah, so right now Florida is over 60 percent reporting.

01:38:01.440 Fox News currently has President Trump trailing by about 1.4 percent in Florida.

01:38:06.300 Some people are sharing around.

01:38:07.300 The New York Times projections now has President Trump at 96 percent to win Florida

01:38:11.120 with the remaining votes that are left, about 40 percent left.

01:38:13.720 So, people are kicking that around saying, well, New York Times is already predicting

01:38:16.980 essentially 96 percent chance of him winning Florida.

01:38:19.920 A lot of time to go, still a lot of people in line.

01:38:21.960 As long as you're in line, you can still vote when the election or the polls close.

01:38:25.900 Georgia President Trump is down about 2 percent, only 15 percent reporting,

01:38:30.560 so it's going to be a long night ahead.

01:38:32.480 And so, that's where we are right now.

01:38:34.280 No big surprises yet in the states that have been called.

01:38:36.560 Virginia has been called by Fox News for Joe Biden.

01:38:40.080 A few other analysts have not called it yet.

01:38:41.500 But besides Virginia being called by Fox News, there haven't been any big surprises

01:38:44.760 yet in anything called.

01:38:45.680 Okay, and the thing that I think everyone will be pleasantly surprised about is if we

01:38:49.720 can go home tonight, and I mean, thank God we're on the West Coast, but we're all still

01:38:53.660 pretty tired of, you know, and we're wondering how long it's going to be.

01:38:57.240 How long are we going to be there here?

01:38:58.900 How long is it going to be drawn out?

01:39:00.380 And everyone's been contemplating, is this going to be a contested election?

01:39:04.620 And as we talked about with Ian earlier, we have a history of contested elections.

01:39:08.540 Yeah, sometimes I don't, actually, sometimes I do relish being the bearer of bad news.

01:39:12.500 This is not one of those times, and in this case, the bad news is that there's a very high

01:39:15.880 likelihood that we're not going to know the true results tonight, especially if President

01:39:19.460 Trump is performing better than some had expected, which it does look like is happening

01:39:23.140 right now.

01:39:23.680 So, I'm going to walk you through a few scenarios of what it looks like if we don't have the

01:39:26.720 results tonight, starting from most likely to least likely.

01:39:29.920 Most likely is we're going to see some recounts.

01:39:31.540 So, in 20 states across the country, if the final vote tally is under 1%, an automatic

01:39:36.280 recount is triggered, and that includes Arizona, Florida, and Ohio.

01:39:39.760 Oh, no.

01:39:40.140 Under 1%, automatic recount is triggered.

01:39:42.540 So, that is something that we should certainly expect to see in some of those states.

01:39:45.840 Okay.

01:39:46.140 Now, it could be out of the hand anyway.

01:39:47.620 It could be a situation where one candidate has such a big lead, where the recount doesn't

01:39:50.820 really matter at the end of the day.

01:39:51.980 We already know.

01:39:53.220 But anyways, in 42 states, candidates can demand a recount if there isn't one automatically

01:39:57.420 triggered.

01:39:57.780 And in a few other states, lawsuits can happen, where if a candidate has clear proof of some

01:40:02.720 sort of election malpractice, dumped ballots, that kind of thing, if they have clear evidence

01:40:06.820 of it, they can sue the state to try and get some kind of injunction going on there.

01:40:12.180 And the least likely scenario, but the one I still like to bring up, is congressional intervention.

01:40:16.540 If there is no clear winner that is chosen by the Electoral College by December 6th, Congress

01:40:20.760 will intervene.

01:40:21.400 They step in, and they will help choose the winner.

01:40:23.800 It's something we saw back in 2000, Bush and Gore in Florida.

01:40:26.460 Okay, so we have a month.

01:40:28.660 Do you think we're truly a month out?

01:40:30.420 I don't think we're a month out.

01:40:31.800 I'm optimistic we'll have some clear examples of what the race is looking like, hopefully

01:40:36.700 within the next few days.

01:40:37.680 But I don't think people should necessarily expect to know exactly what's going to happen

01:40:41.440 tonight, because this is an incredibly close race.

01:40:43.840 Hard to overstate just how close the results are right now that we're seeing coming in.

01:40:47.340 And we've heard both candidates talk about how they have those legal teams ready to go.

01:40:51.720 Exactly.

01:40:52.160 The candidates have flexed their legal muscles, something that's a weird thing to envision

01:40:55.620 in your mind.

01:40:56.460 But they have made clear that if the results are close, especially in some of those key

01:41:00.320 battleground states, that they will be demanding recounts if there isn't an automatic one,

01:41:03.880 that they are willing to go to court to sue to make sure that happens.

01:41:07.200 Keep an eye on that.

01:41:08.100 But again, the race so far, tightening up in Florida and Georgia, those are the two main

01:41:11.600 states we're keeping an eye on in the war room right now.

01:41:13.100 All right.

01:41:13.380 Also, North Carolina, Michigan, a few of those other, Pennsylvania, a few of those other

01:41:17.420 battlegrounds.

01:41:18.100 Ohio, the polls just closed.

01:41:19.500 Like I said, we're on the West Coast.

01:41:20.980 We're keeping an eye on everything that's happening.

01:41:22.800 And one more thing I will add.

01:41:23.700 Both candidates encouraging all their supporters, telling them, if you are in line, stay in

01:41:27.520 line.

01:41:27.720 We'll do the same thing here at The Data Wire.

01:41:29.020 For anyone listening or watching that's in line, stay in line because you can vote even

01:41:32.060 if the polls are closed.

01:41:32.820 OK.

01:41:33.220 And as we get those poll results that are coming in and being solidified, we'll continue

01:41:38.060 to bring those to you guys.

01:41:40.400 Excellent.

01:41:40.720 OK, so a couple of quick things.

01:41:43.440 One, the Miami-Dade margin in Florida is excellent news for President Trump.

01:41:47.100 Trump got 334,000 votes in Miami-Dade in all of 2016.

01:41:50.220 He already has more than 450,000 votes in Miami-Dade.

01:41:53.300 Cubans are showing up en masse in Miami-Dade.

01:41:55.420 He's doing extraordinarily well there.

01:41:57.220 Biden was supposed to win Miami-Dade by some 30 points.

01:41:59.640 That's what Hillary won by last time. 1.00

01:42:01.100 He's really winning it by like 10 this time, which is bad news for Biden.

01:42:04.860 So it looks like a very good shot that Trump takes Florida as expected.

01:42:07.920 Also, it looks like a fairly good shot that Trump takes Georgia as expected if we are

01:42:11.240 to trust the famous New York Times needle.

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01:43:28.200 You know who else is changing the face of media as we know it over on the right?

01:43:31.960 It's her good friend, Megan Kelly, who launched a podcast.

01:43:34.800 And this is what I love about Megan Kelly.

01:43:36.080 When she decides to do something, like take 2016, for example, she decided to walk down

01:43:39.940 the hall.

01:43:40.880 Girl knows how to walk down the hall with purpose, change the game. 1.00

01:43:44.680 That's what she's doing now with podcasts. 0.81

01:43:46.300 Megan, we're so glad that you're with us and we love your new podcast.

01:43:49.760 It's fabulous.

01:43:50.340 Hey guys, thank you so much.

01:43:51.560 Well, thank you for helping me to promote it and for being such good and faithful backers

01:43:55.960 of it from the time it was in its little embryonic stage.

01:43:58.560 Well, it's been kind of a treat for us to get to talk to you behind the scenes and watch

01:44:02.520 you give birth to this thing and to see its success right out of the gate.

01:44:05.900 It's really a wonderful thing.

01:44:07.840 I think this, you know, it's a really freeing thing to engage in the podcast.

01:44:11.780 I'm sure coming off of being in the more restrictive environment of television, I think it'll give

01:44:15.900 you the opportunity to say all the things that you want to say and you're already doing

01:44:19.320 that and doing it very well.

01:44:20.460 So welcome aboard.

01:44:21.480 Let's talk about the election.

01:44:22.700 So I want to ask, first of all, since you've spent so much time in the media covering this stuff,

01:44:26.700 I, you know, I, I believe that the media have been worth eight, 10 points for Joe Biden

01:44:31.040 in this race.

01:44:32.420 Uh, I, the, the media, the media seems to have given up on any pretense of objective

01:44:36.680 journalism since you've worked in the halls of the media, not just at Fox news, but obviously

01:44:40.380 at network news.

01:44:41.300 Uh, what do you make of the, what looks like the decline of establishment journalism?

01:44:46.040 I mean, I think it's, it's done.

01:44:47.720 I did a little talking points memo on my podcast today.

01:44:50.380 It's already our most downloaded.

01:44:51.660 We've had yet talking about how the media committed suicide and Trump was there Kevorkian.

01:44:56.700 You know, he didn't kill them.

01:44:57.960 He helped them along.

01:44:59.040 They willingly jumped right off that bridge.

01:45:01.520 They did it to themselves.

01:45:03.020 And it's been, I don't, I don't even want to say it's been sad for me to watch.

01:45:06.140 It's been kind of disgusting for me to watch because they've been trying to take him out

01:45:09.760 from, from day one.

01:45:11.200 And look, I, I wasn't exactly in love with president Trump four years ago and he kept

01:45:16.740 coming after me, but I'll tell you something.

01:45:19.080 What the thing that helped me really see him clearly and be able to analyze him with objectivity

01:45:24.280 and fairly was them, was how much the media hated him and how against him they were.

01:45:29.980 And then, you know how it is.

01:45:30.900 It's like, you have to rise up and be your strongest self and, and put the most clear

01:45:35.340 focused lens on the guy.

01:45:36.820 So people have someone they can listen to who's not determined to be part of the resistance

01:45:42.400 and bringing him down.

01:45:43.560 I just think it was a complete shirking of journalistic responsibility.

01:45:47.080 Their credibility is gone and they cannot get it back.

01:45:49.860 And I'll tell you one reason why it's problematic COVID.

01:45:53.460 Remember when you were coming out there and they were trying to tell us like, why aren't

01:45:55.880 you listening to us?

01:45:56.580 We're the media.

01:45:57.140 We're telling you it's dangerous. 1.00

01:45:58.360 And we were all at home, like, screw you. 1.00

01:46:01.000 You've lied so many times. 0.99

01:46:02.700 Take the Covington case, Jussie Smollett, all the lies about Trump, Russiagate, Ukraine.

01:46:08.620 We no longer believe you.

01:46:10.860 And then you got Trump on the other hand, who doesn't have an adult relationship with the

01:46:13.600 truth.

01:46:13.960 They're telling us all sorts of facts that are not facts about COVID.

01:46:17.480 And it's just so frustrating, right?

01:46:19.280 You're like, what's going on?

01:46:20.720 This is something I really want to know the truth on.

01:46:22.880 Anyway, so hence life in the digital lane for me.

01:46:26.360 I feel like it's a great place to be able to just deliver the truth, whatever it is.

01:46:30.480 And I do think that's why digital media and, you know, places like The Daily Wire are the

01:46:36.100 future.

01:46:36.620 That's the future.

01:46:37.660 Legacy media truly is done.

01:46:40.080 And once Trump goes, whether it's, you know, tonight or four years from now, they're really

01:46:44.720 done because he's the only thing keeping them alive.

01:46:46.880 Yeah, that's right.

01:46:47.700 He ironically is actually propping them up right now.

01:46:50.480 I think this about the legacy media.

01:46:53.020 I think about it, too, as far as some never Trump Republicans are not not people who were

01:46:57.120 Trump skeptics in 2016, but people who've sort of gone all in.

01:47:00.520 I'm thinking maybe it's the Lincoln Project and others against the president is that there

01:47:03.960 is this interesting irony where he's responsible for their ascendancy right now.

01:47:08.020 And I don't think that they will have the same kind of reach that they have today in

01:47:12.020 a post-Trump future.

01:47:12.960 Ben, what do you think?

01:47:13.420 Yeah, I mean, I think that in the future, the media has made clear that it is now no

01:47:18.620 longer in the business of objective journalism.

01:47:20.760 And so they're in the same business we are.

01:47:21.900 And now they're playing in our field.

01:47:23.120 Before, it was like we had to try and play in their field.

01:47:24.880 Now they're playing in our field.

01:47:26.120 Megan, one of the things I want to ask you about is you're one of the few figures in

01:47:28.940 media who did not succumb to Trump derangement syndrome.

01:47:30.820 So you had every reason by all available sort of objective metrics to succumb to Trump derangement

01:47:35.580 syndrome in a way that nobody else did, considering the president went directly at you

01:47:38.780 in 2016 repeatedly.

01:47:40.800 And yet you didn't.

01:47:41.880 You maintained your objectivity.

01:47:43.480 You maintained a perspective on Trump that allowed for the possibility that he would do

01:47:47.560 things that you would like.

01:47:48.960 How are you able to maintain an even keel?

01:47:50.600 Because it really is a quality that you don't see in a lot of people in the media sphere.

01:47:54.640 Oh, thank you.

01:47:55.100 Well, you have to take yourself out of it.

01:47:56.940 You know, I mean, there were many nights during that nine months that he was coming after me

01:48:00.580 where we had security and we had people showing up at our house and our house in the

01:48:04.080 middle of the night.

01:48:04.540 And it was just it got a little scary.

01:48:06.880 And every night before I went on the air to report about him, I would remind myself it

01:48:10.400 isn't about you.

01:48:12.060 It's not about you.

01:48:13.240 It's about the voters and him.

01:48:15.640 You know, I'm on the sidelines and he kept trying to bring me out onto the field, but

01:48:18.840 I'm supposed to be on the sidelines.

01:48:19.920 And that's the area from which I want to report.

01:48:21.760 And it was hard.

01:48:22.960 I'm not going to lie.

01:48:23.640 It was hard.

01:48:24.520 But I did it.

01:48:25.540 And it's one of the reasons why I really resent the fact that no one's no one else is even

01:48:28.700 trying.

01:48:29.280 You know, like I know they don't like him.

01:48:31.320 There have been lots of leaders who I haven't liked, but your job is to not make it about

01:48:37.040 you.

01:48:37.600 You don't get to make the Duke lacrosse case about you, Jussie Smollett about you.

01:48:41.660 Any of those cases are not about you.

01:48:43.020 It's not your opportunity as a reporter to prove to the audience how woke and liberal and

01:48:47.660 liberating you are.

01:48:49.740 Megan, I understand this feeling of despair that the legacy media is just completely collapsing.

01:48:56.600 You know, we have no one that we can trust.

01:48:57.800 But is there not also a little bit of hope in there?

01:49:01.220 Is there not a silver lining, which is that I think a lot of us felt for a long time that

01:49:04.800 the legacy media were utterly partisan.

01:49:06.960 They were completely unfair.

01:49:08.300 They were just hiding it a little bit better.

01:49:09.980 And then when Donald Trump walks under the scene, all of a sudden the mask slips a little

01:49:13.500 and you can suss out the objective journalists.

01:49:16.080 And I would certainly include you in that category.

01:49:18.340 But from the less objective journalists, I don't know, I'm just a name comes to my head,

01:49:22.880 Jim Acosta or other people who have made the story always about them and their

01:49:26.520 own political preferences.

01:49:28.380 It's a good point.

01:49:29.460 And, you know, we used to in this country back when we were founded be all about partisan

01:49:33.220 press.

01:49:33.740 And I think our founding fathers wouldn't have understood the attempt to be, quote, objective.

01:49:37.080 They would have said it's all about, you know, declaring your stripes and then arguing for

01:49:39.840 them in the press.

01:49:40.700 And maybe that's exactly where we're headed.

01:49:42.360 But the thing that bothers me about it is the dishonesty about who they are.

01:49:48.400 Tonight I was channel surfing and my assistant is here with me because it's a long night.

01:49:52.020 I've got a lot going on.

01:49:52.640 And I put on MSNBC.

01:49:54.880 I'm going back and forth between Fox and MSNBC.

01:49:57.020 And she's like, MSNBC?

01:49:58.340 She knows I don't like them.

01:49:59.520 I don't watch Rachel Maddow.

01:50:00.520 God, no.

01:50:01.300 But I'd rather watch her than Chris Cuomo.

01:50:03.960 She puts the cards out there.

01:50:05.680 I know what she is.

01:50:06.580 She explains it to me and she's honest about it.

01:50:08.900 Chris Cuomo and Don Lemon and all those guys, they still want you to believe they're objective

01:50:12.140 journalists.

01:50:12.980 That's right.

01:50:13.320 But this is straight news. 1.00

01:50:14.800 I'm like, how stupid do you think we are? 0.99

01:50:17.680 And what really bothers me about it is, you know, we're all in media. 1.00

01:50:21.180 But my imaginary viewer, I call her Madge.

01:50:23.280 She's in Iowa.

01:50:24.040 She's a busy lady. 1.00

01:50:24.900 She's never tried to be watching all this nonsense.

01:50:27.140 Madge doesn't know. 0.89

01:50:28.160 She's like, I don't know.

01:50:29.280 I'm living my life.

01:50:29.820 I'm not following, you know, the media websites to figure out who's gone biased and who hasn't.

01:50:34.080 She thinks it's just the news.

01:50:35.220 Well, it isn't the news.

01:50:36.480 It's complete propaganda.

01:50:38.360 So it irritates me.

01:50:39.880 And for now, I don't watch Rachel's show, but I'd watch a panel on MSNBC before I'd watch CNN.

01:50:47.040 Well, you know, in the early days of this country, the media declared their biases and

01:50:50.520 the media actually campaigned to elect presidents instead of candidates campaigning to get elected

01:50:55.860 as president.

01:50:56.880 This is why you still have newspapers like the Tennessee Democrat, right?

01:50:59.680 They're actually named after the parties that they were formed to be propaganda outlets

01:51:04.380 for.

01:51:04.580 We don't think of ourselves as a propaganda outlet.

01:51:06.840 We we don't say things that we don't believe are true.

01:51:08.960 We don't say things for which we can't find factual evidence.

01:51:11.940 We're not trying to be an answer to the sort of pravda tendencies of the left.

01:51:16.780 But we do acknowledge that we have these biases.

01:51:19.540 I actually think that everyone in the country would be in so much better shape if we got

01:51:23.520 rid of this entire idea of objective media and everyone just owned their biases.

01:51:28.320 Of course, the only people who are against that are the people who don't want you to know.

01:51:31.360 Well, here's the problem on it.

01:51:32.880 It's it would work if people could work off of the same facts.

01:51:36.240 And I listen to Ben all the time.

01:51:38.160 And I love yours to Jeremy.

01:51:39.640 Welcome to the podcasting world, which you already ran behind the scenes.

01:51:42.360 And and Michael, I'm soon going to download yours as well.

01:51:47.260 I'll take what I can get.

01:51:48.540 But what I hear about Ben is a guy who he'll tell you when he thinks, you know, he calls

01:51:56.440 like bad Trump, you know, he'll tell you, he gives you straight analysis when he thinks

01:52:00.000 Trump has done something wrong.

01:52:01.260 And he's pretty free to label.

01:52:03.000 This is fact.

01:52:03.600 This is my thought and opinion.

01:52:05.760 Not everybody does that.

01:52:07.100 And I actually almost think not Ben was never, never Trumper.

01:52:10.220 You know, he's a sometimes Trumper.

01:52:11.280 But I actually think some of the most honest analysts of the Trump era have been people

01:52:17.100 who started off like Republicans who started off not so into Trump, who then watched what

01:52:23.200 the media and the Democrats were doing to him.

01:52:25.600 And they can still see him for what he is, but they're not they don't have the derangement

01:52:30.460 glasses on.

01:52:31.360 And I think that's one of the reasons why you guys are so valuable.

01:52:33.720 I think it's what helps me report fairly on him.

01:52:36.080 There has to be a set of facts that we're agreeing on that we're working off of.

01:52:40.600 And that's where I think the legacy media has gone off the deep end.

01:52:44.100 Well, I think you're absolutely right.

01:52:45.420 That's why I'm so grateful that you're now joining us here in new media.

01:52:48.740 I'm grateful for the opportunities that our DailyWire.com audience and in particular,

01:52:52.960 our subscribing members give us to be able to give that alternative point of view.

01:52:57.400 I like this term legacy media.

01:52:58.860 We were talking at the beginning of the show.

01:53:00.560 We have to do away with this idea of the mainstream media, which is sort of a holdover from the early

01:53:04.920 2000s, because there's nothing mainstream about the points of view that are being sold

01:53:10.320 to us day in and day out by Don Lemon and by Acosta, by the New York Times, by the Washington

01:53:15.840 Post.

01:53:16.580 You know, that's not how mainstream Americans see themselves.

01:53:19.620 We should we should take that term back.

01:53:21.660 Very, very pleased to have you on the show tonight, Megan.

01:53:24.040 Thank you.

01:53:24.740 Maybe we can circle up tomorrow and raise a glass to, you know, either the doom of the

01:53:28.820 republic or the salvation of the republic.

01:53:30.520 Either way, it'll be worth a drink.

01:53:32.480 Listen, I think it's awesome that you guys are not drunk this time.

01:53:34.780 Don't speak too soon, Megan.

01:53:38.000 I may I may be hitting the bottom myself.

01:53:40.260 We'll see.

01:53:40.640 I think I have another.

01:53:43.640 Inebriated state.

01:53:45.680 Check out Megan's new podcast everywhere where there are podcasts.

01:53:49.100 I like our friend Ted Cruz.

01:53:50.480 I like to make fun of him.

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01:55:43.500 So we have another friend with us in studio tonight.

01:55:45.960 A blast from the past.

01:55:47.100 I say that only because he was with us in 2016 for our election coverage when we were blasted.

01:55:51.880 So that's how I came up with that little phrase.

01:55:54.380 It's our pal Dave Rubin.

01:55:56.300 And I thought that Clavin just got like more hair, younger and gayer. 0.97

01:56:01.380 A little gay. 0.94

01:56:02.280 Yeah. 0.97

01:56:02.700 Hold on.

01:56:03.040 I want to hold on that.

01:56:04.060 Let's just go through a couple of things here, guys.

01:56:06.160 First off, you've left me here with Clavin's old glass.

01:56:08.920 So can I have your glass?

01:56:10.640 Because I sense you're not going to be doing that much, much.

01:56:13.840 No imbibing.

01:56:14.440 Let's start with that.

01:56:15.200 That's number one.

01:56:15.860 But before I do that, I did bring my special thick trim election glasses.

01:56:20.900 Because you know a lot of times on MSNBC, they're wearing glasses.

01:56:26.120 Now, these are not real glasses.

01:56:27.200 These are prop glasses.

01:56:28.140 I actually have 20-20 vision.

01:56:29.600 But to make a point when you're a newscaster, and as you guys are blowing up and leaving me here in Los Angeles and going to Nashville, it's very exciting.

01:56:35.780 Knowles, I'm really pissed at you.

01:56:36.700 So, you know, you guys are going to have to do more of this. 0.96

01:56:40.460 You're going to have to get thick rim, black.

01:56:42.300 That's not quite TV worthy.

01:56:44.340 And then when you make a point, Ben, and you're always making points.

01:56:46.680 And then you.

01:56:47.880 Keith Olbermann.

01:56:48.620 Wow, that's good.

01:56:49.460 You didn't even say anything.

01:56:50.340 And I'm a lefty.

01:56:50.840 I believe that.

01:56:51.440 I'm a lefty.

01:56:52.060 I just did that with my right hand.

01:56:53.360 And then you can also do this.

01:56:55.800 Oh, my God.

01:56:56.500 I wish you'd make a point.

01:56:57.580 Because I'm all in.

01:56:58.540 I don't know if you're allowed to.

01:56:59.580 I'm all in.

01:57:00.160 1% reporting.

01:57:01.060 Biden is the president.

01:57:02.440 You see?

01:57:02.820 You see how I did that?

01:57:03.580 My problem with that, I always get mistaken for Maddow every time I wear those glasses.

01:57:07.960 And it's too much.

01:57:09.120 I don't know how to.

01:57:09.960 In Tennessee, that's not going to work well.

01:57:11.360 In L.A., it worked very well.

01:57:12.600 But Tennessee, I can't do it.

01:57:14.060 You're right.

01:57:14.600 I'm just going to know right now that the New York Times says there's a 95% shot that Trump

01:57:17.660 wins Florida.

01:57:18.720 Yeah, well, this Miami-Dade County thing, it sounds like he made up.

01:57:21.300 Florida is awesome.

01:57:22.920 My new home.

01:57:23.760 Also, guys, breaking news.

01:57:25.440 Trump won West Virginia.

01:57:26.860 I don't know.

01:57:27.680 Is that a pretty.

01:57:29.580 Hold the fort.

01:57:30.540 Hold the fort.

01:57:31.340 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:57:31.820 I like that now, whenever I think of Florida man, I think of an Orthodox Jewish Harvard

01:57:36.380 law grad.

01:57:38.520 Listen, Ron DeSantis, for all of his down-home charm, is a Harvard law grad.

01:57:41.980 That's right.

01:57:42.380 We are taking over the state.

01:57:44.100 We Harvard law grads.

01:57:45.540 It is impressive.

01:57:47.260 I don't want to say that I called Florida, but it is maybe the only state that I actually

01:57:51.860 called in this election.

01:57:52.660 I've been saying for weeks.

01:57:53.100 Your only actual prediction.

01:57:54.140 Right.

01:57:54.320 My only actual prediction in this election was that Trump was going to win Florida.

01:57:57.320 Now, for the states that I actually do think he's going to win, I do think he's

01:57:59.440 going to win North Carolina.

01:58:00.320 I do think he's going to win Georgia.

01:58:01.820 I think he's going to win Arizona.

01:58:03.560 I'm much more skeptical of the states in the Midwest.

01:58:05.600 That's that's sort of where I am.

01:58:07.020 If I want to have one of them.

01:58:08.260 Right.

01:58:08.360 He's got to have Pennsylvania is really the one you go for.

01:58:10.400 That's right.

01:58:10.680 But Florida coming in strong for Trump and not just strong.

01:58:13.800 He's he's apparently getting an outside share of the black vote now tried outside share

01:58:17.300 of the Hispanic vote.

01:58:17.960 And this is something that the Republicans should keep in mind going forward is that the Republican

01:58:23.080 Party had been the party of a white suburban college educated people.

01:58:27.620 Then under Trump, it became the party of high school educated white people.

01:58:31.580 And they sort of broke the Democratic stranglehold on some of those audiences in the Midwest.

01:58:35.780 If the Republican Party becomes the party of more blacks, more Hispanics and working class 0.98

01:58:42.420 white people with some suburban women, because Trump is really the barrier between suburban 1.00

01:58:46.680 women in the Republican Party, as George W. 1.00

01:58:48.320 Bush and Mitt Romney showed.

01:58:49.200 But that looks like a majority party.

01:58:51.660 That does not look like a minority party.

01:58:53.040 And so for all of the Democrats being very sanguine about tonight, that's reading a lot

01:58:56.280 from Florida.

01:58:56.940 But we'll see how the election.

01:58:58.080 And this is this is the big key, though, Ben, because, as you mentioned, we've been told

01:59:02.580 now for years and years, you know, that Republicans hate black people and Democrats have had a huge 0.94

01:59:08.780 share of the black vote.

01:59:09.880 And then during the Trump era, we were told Trump is making inroads among black voters.

01:59:13.460 And you had all these polls, these battling polls.

01:59:15.700 Is Trump getting 20 percent, 25 percent, 2 percent?

01:59:18.940 Who knows?

01:59:19.660 There's only one poll that matters.

01:59:20.940 The poll that matters is Election Day.

01:59:22.480 We are getting those poll numbers in.

01:59:24.020 If Trump can actually succeed at the thing that we conservatives have been telling ourselves

01:59:28.340 for the past four years, that could be a fundamental shift in the way the political parties are

01:59:34.200 Well, it just seems obvious to me that minorities are breaking. 1.00

01:59:38.480 Minorities are realizing who wants to be owned by a political party because of your the color 1.00

01:59:43.280 of your skin or your sexuality or your gender.

01:59:46.760 I mean, look, you just had Candace on and it's great.

01:59:48.920 You guys can be doing stuff together.

01:59:49.960 It's like she literally changed the world, whether whether Trump wins or not.

01:59:54.240 And I do think he will win tonight.

01:59:55.640 And I'm praying he's going to win.

01:59:57.200 I mean, talk about a freaking political evolution over here.

01:59:59.780 You know, she she changed the world.

02:00:03.980 But I do want to give credit to the missing Daily Watch, whose chair I'm sitting in, because

02:00:08.700 you remember four years ago when we were doing this and and as the night was going on and

02:00:13.420 it started to become more obvious that Trump was going to win and everybody was kind of

02:00:16.480 freaking out.

02:00:17.180 You were laughing and crying simultaneously.

02:00:19.340 Really?

02:00:20.120 It was something night of my life.

02:00:21.340 But Clavin Clavin said something that I have repeated and I try to credit him when I can

02:00:25.520 that I think is just so on the money that what an incredible country we live in, that

02:00:29.820 anything can happen right now, the four of us, we live and breathe this stuff.

02:00:34.400 Anything can happen tonight, you know, and not only can anything happen, but it also depends

02:00:38.480 on what the media decides.

02:00:39.500 So only one thing let us find out happened.

02:00:41.380 Almost almost only one thing was impossible.

02:00:43.480 Mitch McConnell losing his seat.

02:00:44.900 So it has been confirmed that he destroyed Amy McGrath.

02:00:47.020 They swore money into that.

02:00:48.100 That's a hell of a 90 million.

02:00:50.860 Unbelievable. 1.00

02:00:51.460 Trying to defeat Mitch McConnell, which is the stupidest thing. 1.00

02:00:54.280 That's all he has to do is putting his head in his hands into that shell. 1.00

02:00:57.640 Yeah.

02:00:58.220 Just take anything you throw in.

02:00:59.820 You can't not screw with cocaine, Mitch, man.

02:01:02.100 They've loaned so much money on those races.

02:01:04.380 Also, South Carolina has been called for Trump, which is good news for Lindsey Graham, who

02:01:07.620 supposedly was in a close battle, but it wasn't particularly a close battle.

02:01:11.180 Yep.

02:01:12.220 I think it's going to be all right.

02:01:15.480 How about that for analysis?

02:01:16.840 I actually think everything's going to be OK.

02:01:18.880 I think Trump is going to win, but I just think people have just woken up.

02:01:24.000 No matter what happens tonight, enough people.

02:01:25.840 How long are you saying California is really the question? 0.98

02:01:27.680 Well, you guys screwed me. 0.97

02:01:28.700 Yeah. 0.99

02:01:28.940 And you screwed me good. 0.69

02:01:30.580 As a matter of fact, I had Knowles and his lovely wife over for dinner just a few weeks

02:01:34.720 before you announced that you were all leaving.

02:01:36.600 And Knowles and I, after some whiskey and some wine.

02:01:39.580 We made plans.

02:01:40.160 He said, I will stay with you, Dave.

02:01:42.060 I will stay here with you. 1.00

02:01:43.100 Why would you possibly trust this ass? 1.00

02:01:44.540 And then literally it was like 12 minutes later, I see across the Twitter, Ben Shapiro announces 1.00

02:01:49.520 Daily Wire is getting the hell out of here.

02:01:51.440 I kid you not.

02:01:52.180 I think the headline was Knowles.

02:01:53.700 Knowles is leaving.

02:01:54.360 Sold you up the river, Ruben.

02:01:55.560 I think it's what you did.

02:01:56.700 We had this great dinner.

02:01:59.140 A little bit of Coca-Cola's.

02:02:00.880 You know, we were drinking a little bit.

02:02:02.220 We made plans for the future.

02:02:03.700 We're going to take back California.

02:02:05.400 We're going to have...

02:02:05.940 And then I...

02:02:06.820 Yeah.

02:02:07.140 No, it was like the next day.

02:02:08.020 It happens when you have a few drinks.

02:02:09.240 And then I go in.

02:02:10.080 Jeremy calls me in.

02:02:11.000 I kid you not.

02:02:11.760 It was like two days later.

02:02:12.960 He goes, all right, buddy.

02:02:13.720 We're out of here.

02:02:14.340 I said, Dave, who?

02:02:15.200 I got out of town.

02:02:15.840 I'm getting out of town.

02:02:16.640 You know what?

02:02:17.040 Truly, guys.

02:02:17.860 Well, first of all, I've loved having you guys here.

02:02:19.700 It's been nice.

02:02:20.320 And I get to Florida every now and again.

02:02:22.500 So we will break bread again.

02:02:24.960 And I do.

02:02:26.260 I've been to Nashville once.

02:02:27.240 They were quite lovely.

02:02:28.580 And I performed at the Ryman Theater.

02:02:30.400 It was great.

02:02:30.880 You may be enjoying that new house, but they will bodily throw you out of the state.

02:02:34.080 Well, listen, we got guns.

02:02:35.420 We got a ton of ammo.

02:02:36.340 And what an odd ending to my movie.

02:02:39.880 How did this end like this?

02:02:41.420 I'm the one that's staying.

02:02:42.680 I had to get all the guns.

02:02:43.880 You guys are leaving.

02:02:44.740 Yeah, it's pretty fantastic.

02:02:45.880 We know how to prank people.

02:02:47.280 That's our thing.

02:02:48.280 It starts off like this.

02:02:50.720 Hey, Dave.

02:02:51.700 I mean, ever hear of classical liberalism?

02:02:55.660 Well, what's going to be hilarious is when all of us, the married, religious, Jewish and

02:03:03.220 Christian conservatives, watch Dave, the gay, formerly liberal guy, being Waco in the middle 1.00

02:03:10.720 of that. 0.97

02:03:11.280 Yes.

02:03:11.860 That's how that turned out, basically.

02:03:13.540 I always told you, Knowles, I was going to end up the most right-wing.

02:03:17.200 I believe it.

02:03:18.160 It was obvious. 0.99

02:03:18.880 Because I've been with these people, and they're terrible, horrible people. 0.98

02:03:21.920 And I spent a lot of time with them, and they're awful.

02:03:24.220 Politically, you're going to be further to right than any of us.

02:03:26.360 You may become the pope at some point.

02:03:27.640 I don't know.

02:03:28.180 Honestly, I will for a while.

02:03:31.020 I mean, this is what we decided, that we will stay here for a while and see if we can fix 0.70

02:03:35.160 this freaking thing.

02:03:35.940 You know, what happens? 0.93

02:03:37.020 You guys know this.

02:03:37.820 Leftists and progressives break things, and then conservatives fix them.

02:03:40.880 So it's like, look, California, that Reagan guy was once the governor of California.

02:03:45.340 Like, things happen.

02:03:46.600 New York, what happened? 0.71

02:03:48.040 Dinkins, a lefty, progressive nutbag. 0.96

02:03:49.980 He ruined New York City. 0.91

02:03:50.960 Giuliani fixes it.

02:03:52.060 So I like a challenge, you know?

02:03:54.000 And I also like 82-degree weather every day when it's not raining fire.

02:03:56.760 Listen, we all like the weather.

02:03:59.540 The truth is, Ben's lived in California in his entire life.

02:04:03.160 I've lived here for 20 years, two months, and two weeks.

02:04:06.080 I love California.

02:04:07.120 I didn't move here by accident.

02:04:08.580 It's the greatest state in the country in terms of natural beauty.

02:04:11.680 It's the greatest state in the country in terms of just your ability to start off as

02:04:16.140 nothing, engage with media, and find a voice for yourself.

02:04:19.700 The problem is they've destroyed it.

02:04:21.460 I mean, in the last three years, they've completely unraveled the magic of L.A.

02:04:24.720 It's a totally different town than what it was even 36 months ago.

02:04:28.780 My hope is, listen, my hope is you join us in Nashville.

02:04:32.780 Failing that, I hope you turn this state around.

02:04:34.700 Look, there's always a chance.

02:04:36.580 Like, how do any of us do anything in the political world if we don't think there's a

02:04:40.660 chance, right?

02:04:41.200 Like, we think you have to try.

02:04:42.760 Literally just quoting Jim Carrey in Dumb and Dumber now. 1.00

02:04:45.700 Most of my political beliefs, actually, they came from liar, liar. 0.98

02:04:49.620 Yeah, me, myself, and I read. 0.69

02:04:51.660 Yeah, like, there is, right, now, Ben, it took me a second.

02:04:55.120 I got the reference.

02:04:55.760 Now I got it.

02:04:56.440 Yeah, so you're saying there's a chance.

02:04:57.740 Okay, now I got it.

02:04:58.680 I was a little slow on that one.

02:04:59.440 Did you know that his favorite movie is Me, Myself, and I read?

02:05:01.160 It's the greatest movie ever made.

02:05:01.960 He told me that that night before he lied to me about staying.

02:05:04.600 He gave me the whole thing.

02:05:05.100 So you didn't know who it was there or not.

02:05:06.080 It's the greatest movie of all time.

02:05:07.800 Everything I believe came from the movie.

02:05:09.400 Yada, yada, yada.

02:05:10.340 Anyway, I'm going to stay and fight for a little bit. 0.99

02:05:12.100 And I think people hate Garcetti, this clown here, our mayor. 0.96

02:05:16.900 I think people hate Gavin Newsom. 0.95

02:05:18.540 And I'm going to see, you know, Rick Grinnell's still in California.

02:05:21.200 Larry Elder lives here in L.A.

02:05:22.620 It's not that nobody's here.

02:05:24.320 And by the way, as Hollywood crumbles, which it is crumbling, it is crumbling.

02:05:28.300 And as Hollywood crumbles, new industries will have to kind of step in and fill that out.

02:05:32.640 And they won't be this crazy leftist monolith.

02:05:35.840 So there's a chance.

02:05:36.880 So let's tie this to tonight, which is to say there was a 10,000-person Trump rally in Beverly Hills.

02:05:43.620 It was amazing.

02:05:44.520 Unbelievable.

02:05:44.720 It was amazing.

02:05:45.300 Were you there?

02:05:45.560 Yeah.

02:05:46.200 I was there.

02:05:46.660 It was unbelievable.

02:05:47.700 What was the spirit of it?

02:05:48.560 What was the attitude like?

02:05:49.480 Pure joy.

02:05:50.280 Pure joy.

02:05:50.840 Have you ever done ecstasy?

02:05:52.460 You know, I've never done ecstasy.

02:05:53.920 Ben, have you ever done ecstasy?

02:05:55.540 Come on.

02:05:55.900 All my time.

02:05:56.520 Back at Harvard Law, this guy.

02:05:58.520 It was.

02:05:59.300 It was.

02:05:59.680 That too.

02:05:59.940 I've got it.

02:06:00.440 See, this is where I can never say I'm a full conservative because I say ecstasy and I can see all

02:06:04.420 of you guys start.

02:06:05.080 You get extra color.

02:06:06.040 I'm going to be honest with you.

02:06:06.940 I told my wife one time, my family has a history of drug use, and so I've never been tempted

02:06:12.700 to do drugs.

02:06:13.440 And even in situations where people I cared a lot about, you know, people who I was very

02:06:17.560 close to, they would say, you know, we'd be in Amsterdam or something.

02:06:20.220 They'd be like, oh, it'd be great if we smoked a joint together.

02:06:22.160 And I would just say, I just, I can't do it because I've seen where the road can lead.

02:06:27.520 I don't know which genes I got, but I'm not going to fool around with what if I got those

02:06:30.900 genes, you know?

02:06:31.400 No, no, no.

02:06:31.720 You should always prefer.

02:06:32.820 I've said to my wife, if I were ever going to do a drug, it would be ecstasy.

02:06:37.040 It's called ecstasy.

02:06:39.060 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:06:39.780 Listen, I'm not here to.

02:06:40.960 I didn't realize this was going to turn into the Joe Rogan podcast.

02:06:43.440 What I've always said is I want to carve a little more libertarianism into the conservative

02:06:47.940 movement.

02:06:48.380 Anyway, let's remove it.

02:06:49.800 So you were taking crocodile.

02:06:50.840 So let's remove the ecstasy metaphor here.

02:06:55.280 It was pure joy.

02:06:57.100 Thousands of people, and it didn't matter if they were black or white or gay or straight 0.63

02:07:01.360 or any of that nonsense.

02:07:02.860 But if they were Asian, they were out. 1.00

02:07:04.160 No, no, they were out.

02:07:05.320 No, there were plenty of Asians.

02:07:06.520 It was a serious love fest.

02:07:08.880 Yeah.

02:07:09.020 And everybody's happy.

02:07:10.840 Everybody's hugging.

02:07:11.540 I found out that Prager, Dennis Prager, was on his way there.

02:07:15.080 So I texted him.

02:07:16.140 I met him right outside, and we walked in together.

02:07:18.160 And to watch the people, because, you know, Dennis is really tall, and he's dressed like

02:07:22.200 Dennis Prager.

02:07:22.800 I'm in a T-shirt.

02:07:23.520 You know, it's a little different.

02:07:24.880 And to watch these literally, like, thousands of people, like, yelling, like, God bless you,

02:07:29.720 Dennis.

02:07:29.920 We're going to take this state back.

02:07:31.320 And by the way, Dennis is staying here.

02:07:32.740 So, like, it was just pure joy.

02:07:34.740 It's the 180 reverse.

02:07:37.520 Well, we'll see about that.

02:07:38.580 Now, what do you know?

02:07:40.740 I mean, you were there.

02:07:42.040 There's not going to be enough whiskey.

02:07:43.020 We were there for that Yaffa event.

02:07:44.100 There's not going to be enough whiskey.

02:07:44.540 It was you, me, Corolla, and Prager.

02:07:47.540 And I've got Adam on the ropes.

02:07:48.940 I mean, I think I can get Adam to move.

02:07:50.740 I think I'm like.

02:07:51.700 He's got all those fancy cars.

02:07:53.140 It's very expensive to move those across.

02:07:54.840 That's true.

02:07:55.220 You need, like, a couple of trucks.

02:07:56.340 They're made of car.

02:07:57.500 So they are, in fact, mobile.

02:07:59.480 They're made of car.

02:08:00.440 True.

02:08:00.620 And I laid the best argument on Dennis that he has ever heard, which was, Dennis Prager,

02:08:07.240 you are committing an act of immorality by spending your taxpayer dollars in a state that is hopelessly blue

02:08:14.820 and is using them to reinforce all the values you hate.

02:08:18.280 And you can see Dennis got a little shook.

02:08:20.260 Alan Escherin actually told me this week.

02:08:22.820 He said, I have to say, he has an acai bowl and he has his Apple Watch.

02:08:28.800 He says, Dennis is taking to heart what Ben said to him about the morality of staying in California.

02:08:35.160 I know where Dennis lives.

02:08:36.980 Right where Dennis lives.

02:08:37.940 That's where I went.

02:08:38.480 Right to the morality point.

02:08:39.580 He was done.

02:08:39.900 U.M.F.ers take Prager from him.

02:08:43.040 This is not.

02:08:43.620 I'm going to show up.

02:08:44.300 Hey, you should consider Tennessee.

02:08:46.320 He'll be right back.

02:08:48.740 Is it possible?

02:08:49.400 Yes.

02:08:49.860 Obviously, the president isn't going to win California.

02:08:52.060 We have a lot.

02:08:52.240 No, but that's how you start the reset.

02:08:53.940 That's right.

02:08:54.420 Yes.

02:08:54.600 So I used to run an organization called Friends of Abe.

02:08:56.920 It was about 2,500 Hollywood professionals who were conservative.

02:09:00.400 And we'd bring 20 to 40 of them into these new member lunches.

02:09:03.460 And people would whisper at a private table in a private room.

02:09:07.720 They would.

02:09:08.980 Grown men would weep. 0.85

02:09:09.960 And I don't mean one or two.

02:09:11.080 I mean numerous times over the decade that we were in operation.

02:09:15.460 People would say, obviously, my agent, if they knew I was here.

02:09:18.240 One guy said, if my wife knew I was here.

02:09:20.700 My wife does not know my most deeply held beliefs.

02:09:23.140 What the rally in Beverly Hills said to me, what your experience at the polling place

02:09:28.820 last week said to me, what the caravan of trucks and vehicles that went down Ventura

02:09:33.820 Boulevard three times now has said to me is that conservatives are not in a mood to hide

02:09:39.760 from the left anymore.

02:09:40.700 I think we have finally realized they've got our number.

02:09:43.860 They are going to dox us.

02:09:44.920 They are going to destroy us.

02:09:46.280 The only way you can defend yourself is to take absolute ownership of who you are and stand

02:09:51.220 up.

02:09:51.460 And by the way, who do we have to thank for that?

02:09:53.400 It's Donald Trump, because he mapped out a way to win, because who do the Democrats love

02:09:58.140 now?

02:09:58.560 They love the idea of John McCain, who's not even on this earth anymore.

02:10:02.060 They love Mitt Romney, who's just a sellout.

02:10:04.740 They love they love they love Bill Kristol, of course.

02:10:06.940 But they love they love George W. Bush.

02:10:09.060 Now they love Republicans that are either retired and gone or dead.

02:10:12.740 And it's like Trump's like, well, I'm here and I'm alive and I'm going to fight for these

02:10:16.200 things.

02:10:16.380 It doesn't make him perfect, but he's the one that that allowed that.

02:10:20.120 So when you go to this thing in Beverly Hills, I mean, the heart of not just Beverly Hills,

02:10:24.880 Rodeo Drive, which was destroyed by Black Lives Matter and Antifa a couple of months ago and 1.00

02:10:29.460 is all boarded up now.

02:10:30.760 Somehow, hundreds and thousands of Trump supporters can walk through Rodeo Drive.

02:10:35.260 Jeremy, you're not going to believe this.

02:10:36.420 Perfect.

02:10:36.640 Nobody busted into give me a fancy store.

02:10:39.600 Prada.

02:10:39.740 Come on, those. 0.72

02:10:40.400 Nobody busted into Prada.

02:10:41.620 Gucci.

02:10:42.020 I always go for.

02:10:42.900 Come on.

02:10:43.700 Why are people boarding up, Dave Rubin, if conservatives aren't going to burn everything

02:10:47.320 down?

02:10:47.460 You mean it isn't going to be white Christian militias parading through Beverly Hills,

02:10:51.420 destroying the other reference dolls?

02:10:53.360 Yeah.

02:10:53.780 Destroying.

02:10:54.680 No, I was coming.

02:10:58.240 They brought up a Breguet store.

02:10:59.380 Well, I don't want to tempt you overly, but you know who they just called for Donald Trump

02:11:07.200 with only 1% of the vote reporting, and yet they called the state the great state of Tennessee.

02:11:12.200 Wow.

02:11:12.600 Wow.

02:11:13.980 Here it is.

02:11:14.820 Tennessee.

02:11:15.300 Look how red.

02:11:16.240 That is very red.

02:11:17.240 That's a beautiful color, isn't it?

02:11:18.300 A beautiful color of red.

02:11:19.800 I will say this.

02:11:20.560 I was in Tennessee once when I was on tour with Jordan, and I performed at the Grand Ole

02:11:24.960 Opry, the Ryman Theater, which is the legendary theater.

02:11:27.140 That's right.

02:11:27.420 And the people there were extraordinarily nice.

02:11:30.960 Yeah.

02:11:31.320 You guys are going to have to get used to being around nice people.

02:11:33.480 That's very different.

02:11:34.400 That's very different than being here in L.A., but I think just with the right amount

02:11:37.660 of time and maybe a little ecstasy, I think it'll work out.

02:11:40.600 You know, this is something that even I have friends and family who are very meek and mild,

02:11:45.680 and they have always lived in blue places, even if they're conservative, and they say they're

02:11:49.340 sick of it because now this is actually something that changed with coronavirus.

02:11:53.080 We're now, and the mask is a great symbol of it.

02:11:55.920 You can tell someone's politics.

02:11:57.420 By the millimeter of where the mask is on their nose, right?

02:12:00.740 Yeah.

02:12:00.900 A little below, depending on the situation.

02:12:02.580 Yeah.

02:12:02.700 And now you can't deny the politics.

02:12:05.840 Every single interaction is, am I a bag of germs or am I a fellow American? 1.00

02:12:10.140 And am I going to kill you? 1.00

02:12:11.380 And am I this? 0.99

02:12:11.960 Everything is so, you're so on edge all the time.

02:12:15.320 I want to jump into a sea of Republicans in Tennessee.

02:12:18.220 I want to feel like I'm not always on the defensive.

02:12:21.920 Well, I mean, when it comes to the mask, actually, what I've noticed for Democrats is that the

02:12:25.360 way you can tell a Democrat wearing a mask is that they're wearing it improperly.

02:12:29.040 Seriously.

02:12:30.240 That Republicans, when they wear masks, it's usually because they actually are concerned

02:12:33.220 about the virus.

02:12:34.000 And for a lot of Democrats, it seems like the mask is being worn simply as a pure virtue signal.

02:12:38.580 And so it's like, you know, I'm not as anti-mask as you guys are.

02:12:45.060 So that I actually think that the masking is not the chief giveaway.

02:12:49.220 The chief giveaway is when you think the masking is the is the failure of ideological consistency.

02:12:53.420 That's the chief giveaway.

02:12:54.440 All the people who say that it's terrible to go to a crowd event with Donald Trump and

02:12:58.180 not wear a mask.

02:12:58.780 But then they're like, but you know what?

02:13:00.060 It's very important for you to go into a racial protest about how the United States is

02:13:03.040 evil.

02:13:03.280 Well, I don't want to have literally a story, I think, yesterday on Yahoo.

02:13:06.640 I think it was Yahoo that said somehow they figured out that when when people are doing

02:13:11.040 these super spreader Black Lives Matter things and they're destroying everything, somehow the 1.00

02:13:15.260 virus has actually gone down.

02:13:16.700 Yes.

02:13:17.040 Because they said that everybody was staying home at Trump.

02:13:19.520 And what they said is because everybody was staying home.

02:13:21.680 They said everybody was staying home because of the riot.

02:13:23.300 So the rioters were actually doing you a favor.

02:13:25.000 They were keeping up with homes so you wouldn't die.

02:13:26.260 By burning down your business.

02:13:27.420 Also, the CDC announced today.

02:13:28.760 Today, the CDC says that even if you have active, actively have COVID-19, you should go vote.

02:13:35.240 It's the wokest virus I've ever heard of.

02:13:37.000 What bothers me about this is, and I know this will come as a shock to people, there

02:13:40.660 is no constitutional right to vote for president.

02:13:43.440 Right.

02:13:43.720 There is a constitutional right to freely worship.

02:13:48.220 And yet churches, basically a CDC recommendation, remain shuttered all over this country.

02:13:52.620 But if you're going to vote, by golly, get down there and make sure that there's not

02:13:57.140 a red, what are they calling it?

02:13:58.460 The red mirage.

02:13:59.800 The red mirage.

02:14:00.780 If it doesn't turn out their way, it's a mirage.

02:14:02.560 Right now, it is worth noting that Georgia looks like it is lining up for Trump as well.

02:14:06.300 So at least Florida and Georgia have lined up for Trump.

02:14:09.560 Arizona looks a little bit dicier based on early stats.

02:14:11.860 Ohio is looking a lot closer than it did last time.

02:14:15.120 Remember, Trump was supposed to win narrowly in Ohio.

02:14:17.020 He went broadly in Ohio.

02:14:17.980 It looks back to narrow territory.

02:14:19.640 You know, that is good news in Georgia.

02:14:20.980 I was a little bit more worried in Georgia.

02:14:23.120 And we've seen some polls that come out that have been a little scary.

02:14:25.140 And obviously, Stacey Abrams is the governor there. 1.00

02:14:26.880 So that makes it very difficult.

02:14:28.340 But that is good news.

02:14:29.560 And after tonight, she may be the president.

02:14:31.020 And she may be the president. 0.96

02:14:32.060 She may be.

02:14:32.520 This all ends with Stacey Abrams as the president.

02:14:34.720 And we absolutely are in a simulation.

02:14:36.840 Yes.

02:14:37.260 Yeah, absolutely.

02:14:38.540 Dave, I want to go check in with our war room.

02:14:40.720 Do you mind sticking around for one more second?

02:14:42.160 I'm here.

02:14:42.820 I have whiskey.

02:14:43.780 And I think I'm attached to the chair.

02:14:45.420 So you have to.

02:14:46.300 You have no choice.

02:14:46.980 Oh, wait.

02:14:47.220 And I'll put these on while we're.

02:14:49.980 Those for your analysis.

02:14:51.160 Yes, yes.

02:14:51.920 Alicia in the Daily Wire war room.

02:14:54.080 Yes, I am here.

02:14:55.200 And I have our very own Cabot Phillips.

02:14:56.680 As you guys mentioned, of course, President Trump just won Tennessee.

02:15:00.380 We have updated our map here.

02:15:02.280 So how is it looking?

02:15:03.820 What's going on?

02:15:04.560 The guys just referenced Georgia as well.

02:15:05.920 Can you break down some of the data from that state?

02:15:07.740 So the two main states we're looking at right now where we have enough data to really start

02:15:11.120 to get a feel for how the states are shaping out, Georgia and Florida.

02:15:13.900 Now, Florida, New York Times, if you believe their projections, has Trump at about 96 percent

02:15:18.080 to win.

02:15:18.900 The Panhandle, one of the large areas remaining for votes to come in, traditionally a conservative stronghold.

02:15:23.340 It's looking very, very good for the president in Florida, Georgia, another state where polls

02:15:27.980 didn't have President Trump ahead.

02:15:29.480 It's going to be incredibly close right now.

02:15:31.740 New York Times has them with a 60 percent chance of winning Georgia, if you believe those.

02:15:35.920 The numbers that we have right now with 13 percent reporting President Trump up about

02:15:39.860 almost six percent in Georgia.

02:15:41.840 Obviously, we have to wait for Fulton County.

02:15:43.300 That's where Atlanta is.

02:15:44.040 That's where most of the results are going to come in.

02:15:45.760 That's where the Democrats are really banking.

02:15:47.360 Fulton, Cobb County, DeKalb County, all counties that are Democrats stronghold traditionally.

02:15:51.620 It's going to be tough to see for Georgia, but it looks good right now.

02:15:55.080 And one of the things about Georgia that we've been discussing is the early voting there.

02:15:58.800 So what was the early voting turnout like?

02:16:01.020 Because technically that tends to skew more Democratic, right?

02:16:04.040 Yeah.

02:16:04.560 Technically, you would think that in past elections, it definitely benefits Democrats.

02:16:07.960 This year, Democrat early voting, not as big because Republicans have been calling on

02:16:12.000 early voting.

02:16:12.900 Democrat mail-in voting is what we're expecting to see very high numbers from.

02:16:16.440 Another interesting point here.

02:16:17.480 We're talking about projections from The New York Times.

02:16:18.860 Another one people like to keep an eye on, the betting market.

02:16:21.360 Sometimes people think you can get a better feel for where it's going with the money.

02:16:24.300 Now, President Trump was sitting down in the high teens to low 20s earlier in the week.

02:16:28.520 Right now, he's up to 45 percent in some of the larger betting markets.

02:16:31.500 So it seems like some people think the smart money is lying on President Trump, or at least

02:16:34.820 it's starting to get that way.

02:16:36.780 So that's another thing to keep an eye on as the night progresses.

02:16:39.020 Ohio, another one, the big one that people are wanting to see, Ohio and Pennsylvania next.

02:16:42.420 We just don't have enough data coming in from those states yet.

02:16:44.600 Ohio, especially, where you do have a few more votes, but a lot of the key areas that

02:16:48.700 Republicans are waiting on not coming in yet.

02:16:50.420 Okay.

02:16:50.820 And I mean, who knew that Michael Knowles had time to get to Vegas to put in his bets on

02:16:54.680 that?

02:16:55.300 Speaking of something that Democrats spent a lot of money on, $100 million on the race

02:17:00.820 against Mitch McConnell in Kentucky.

02:17:03.480 It did not turn out.

02:17:05.040 Mitch McConnell has won re-election.

02:17:06.520 Can we look at a Senate map?

02:17:07.980 Actually, we have an update there.

02:17:09.320 Can you give us an update on what's going on with the Senate?

02:17:10.980 Well, if you close your eyes and listen to that sound, that laughter is the affectionately

02:17:15.480 named Cocaine Mitch laughing at all of the people that poured $100 million into Amy McGrath's

02:17:20.400 campaign.

02:17:21.260 That's what we like to call burning money.

02:17:22.980 I'm picturing the Joker sitting on the cash right before he lights it on fire.

02:17:25.600 That's what anyone who sent money to the McGrath campaign has done with their money.

02:17:28.840 Mitch McConnell, you bet against him, a lot of times it doesn't go well for you.

02:17:32.200 A lot of people did.

02:17:33.280 Mitch McConnell is going to be remaining.

02:17:34.960 We've seen a few other races called for Republicans, Inhofe in Oklahoma, a few other states.

02:17:40.340 Not many big surprises yet in the Senate races.

02:17:42.820 We're holding off on announcing any of those yet until we get to some of the more contested

02:17:47.440 elections.

02:17:47.900 Okay.

02:17:48.080 Thank you, Cabot, for that update.

02:17:49.200 Guys, we're going to continue to bring those updates.

02:17:50.800 But right now, we would love to come on over here and get to some subscriber questions.

02:17:55.160 Everybody really wants to know.

02:17:57.320 At what point, this question is for Ben, actually, what point do you think that the

02:18:00.940 riots and looting will start, Ben, if Trump ends up winning Pennsylvania?

02:18:05.880 If Trump wins Pennsylvania, immediately.

02:18:07.440 So I think, first of all, there aren't going to be a lot of folks who actually wait until

02:18:10.900 the results are in.

02:18:11.600 I think you're going to start to see unrest tonight if there's not a clear result for

02:18:14.440 Biden.

02:18:14.960 So I think that if we get to 9 o'clock, 10 o'clock at night on the East Coast, Washington,

02:18:19.400 D.C., New York, some of the places that they're worried about this.

02:18:23.100 And it turns out that it's a very narrow election that looks like it's going to go late into the

02:18:28.380 night.

02:18:28.820 You might start to see some preemptive looting, some preemptive upset.

02:18:31.500 If we hit tomorrow and it looks like Trump's going to win Pennsylvania, you will see some

02:18:36.580 active violence for sure.

02:18:37.980 Okay.

02:18:38.460 Next.

02:18:38.760 Can I just say that I agree with you?

02:18:43.780 Wow.

02:18:44.340 My God, that's convincing.

02:18:45.800 Man.

02:18:46.280 Hold on.

02:18:46.920 Let me.

02:18:48.700 That's even wiser.

02:18:49.680 I agree.

02:18:50.480 I agree.

02:18:50.980 Not to get too saucy, but I'm definitely borrowing those glasses and I'm going back to

02:18:54.080 Flora and I'm saying my wife, sweetheart, would you like to?

02:18:57.240 You know.

02:18:58.560 And just see how it works.

02:18:59.860 It works, dude.

02:19:04.000 I mean, they do have three kids.

02:19:05.800 Okay.

02:19:06.220 Next question goes to, actually, I want to ask this question to Dave, if you don't mind.

02:19:11.120 People want to know that given that the polls were so inaccurate in 2016, do you think that

02:19:16.280 the pollsters may have erred on the safe side this election?

02:19:18.840 We've heard across the board how pollsters have changed, you know, the different levels

02:19:23.020 of which they look at data and what type of people they call and include in their polling.

02:19:27.080 But do you think that they've erred so much on the safe side this year that they will

02:19:31.280 be reporting and, you know, kind of going too much to the other side, reporting similarly

02:19:35.020 inaccurate predictions?

02:19:36.800 Yeah.

02:19:37.100 You know, I've been polling people on Twitter and in real life asking friends and family

02:19:41.300 and nobody that I know.

02:19:42.960 I got one person to say that about 10 years ago they were polled on a landline.

02:19:46.900 I can't find anyone that was ever polled.

02:19:49.200 Have you guys ever been polled?

02:19:50.440 I've got one text in my life.

02:19:52.000 I've gotten one text.

02:19:52.980 Have you ever been polled?

02:19:53.780 Never polled.

02:19:54.140 Never been polled then?

02:19:54.840 Have you ever been polled?

02:19:55.680 That's what happens before or after the ecstasy.

02:19:58.060 I don't know all the terminology.

02:19:59.580 Wow, you're working blue tonight.

02:20:01.340 I don't think that the polls actually have much bearing anymore.

02:20:07.080 It strikes me as a vestige of the old world and in many ways, no matter what happens tonight,

02:20:11.160 but especially if Trump wins, it seems to me that the old world is coming to a close now.

02:20:16.100 It's coming to a close.

02:20:17.480 It maybe hangs on for four more years if Biden wins or whoever becomes president once Biden

02:20:22.940 is declared incompetent or whatever, incapacitated, incompetent, whatever you want to call it. 0.68

02:20:27.640 Incompetent, we know he is.

02:20:28.840 Incompetent, we know he is. 0.95

02:20:29.680 Incompetent. 0.56

02:20:30.000 We also know he is.

02:20:31.120 But in essence, I think that the idea that the pollsters are getting this stuff right,

02:20:35.940 it's just more signaling and training us.

02:20:38.840 The way the New York Times tries to train us, the way all the studies out of Harvard

02:20:43.060 try to train us to think certain things.

02:20:45.320 And as you know, we did the PragerU 1984.

02:20:48.060 I mean, everything they do is doublespeak and confusion.

02:20:50.640 So the idea that the people who lie about everything and the mainstream that lies about

02:20:54.480 absolutely everything, they don't lie about this.

02:20:58.580 This is the one thing that they've decided not to lie about because it's so serious,

02:21:01.380 and yet we don't know anyone that they've talked to about this.

02:21:03.180 Well, this is actually a debate that we were having before the show.

02:21:05.260 Ben and I, Michael was a part of it, Drew was a part of it, is can, do pollsters have

02:21:12.000 more of an interest to redeem their profession by being accurate or more of an interest in

02:21:18.880 gratifying their client who is the legacy media?

02:21:22.840 These people don't, it's almost everything that's gone on with the left over the last

02:21:26.640 couple of years.

02:21:27.140 You would think that Donald Trump being president for the last four years, they might have gone

02:21:30.620 in and reevaluated what they did wrong.

02:21:32.940 But they're in so deep.

02:21:34.360 You don't want to be the pollster, the one pollster out of the pollster.

02:21:37.960 I guess they have a hangout, do they hang out?

02:21:39.580 Do they have like an AOL chat room or something?

02:21:41.100 Is that a thing?

02:21:41.840 But like, you don't want to be the one pollster who's like, you know, I'm doing this a little

02:21:44.420 bit differently and talking to people a little bit differently, and you're not going to

02:21:46.860 believe this, guys, but I've got Trump up five.

02:21:49.100 So that's why all the polls said the exact same thing, which, by the way, over the last

02:21:53.180 couple of days was a lot closer at this point than it was four years ago.

02:21:57.360 I just don't buy it.

02:21:59.140 There's just a sort of minor historical point here, which is that everything we're talking

02:22:02.740 about, modern social science, modern statistics, modern polling, modern media, modern university,

02:22:07.180 modern state, all came up at the same time as part of the same project.

02:22:11.420 Actually, the word statistics comes from the word statist, statistic in German, statist in

02:22:16.020 Italian.

02:22:16.300 It was all to feed the modern administrative state.

02:22:19.700 So it works within that system.

02:22:22.340 If that system starts to break down, then the whole thing breaks down.

02:22:25.340 You've seen the university break down.

02:22:26.700 You've seen the legacy media break down magnificently.

02:22:30.180 And I think the last vestige is polling because it sounds the most sciencey.

02:22:34.440 You know, it sounds the most factual.

02:22:36.120 But as the system crumbles, that one's going to go to.

02:22:39.100 Well, look at look at exit polling, the idea that there's a pollster outside of the place

02:22:44.460 where you vote, who is going to come up to you, and then you're going to tell him what

02:22:48.360 you just did there.

02:22:49.580 I mean, I voted here in Los Angeles.

02:22:51.200 I'm a public person and people know that I voted for Trump. 1.00

02:22:53.820 But the idea that I would have talked to a random person, especially with the stupidity 0.99

02:22:57.840 of the masks and everything else, like, oh, yes, yes, let me tell you my life story. 0.98

02:23:00.880 You want to come to my house?

02:23:01.780 Take a nice cup of coffee.

02:23:03.000 Let's talk about it.

02:23:03.820 Like, it's all none of this seems real anymore.

02:23:06.100 And I think that's what we're seeing there.

02:23:08.140 There is a new world on the horizon.

02:23:10.080 And I think truly, you know, guys like us are going to help blaze the trail to it.

02:23:14.100 Or we'll go to the gulags.

02:23:15.300 Or we're going to the gulags.

02:23:16.320 We'll be in good company.

02:23:17.660 So we have breaking news right now coming out of Florida.

02:23:20.980 We're going to the Daily Wire war room to get the update.

02:23:24.080 Elisha.

02:23:24.580 Yeah, back to that update.

02:23:25.540 I'm going to head on over to our nifty little map over here and our very own Cabot Phillips.

02:23:30.740 Cabot, what's going on?

02:23:31.560 If I sound a little bit out of breath, it's because I've been running back and forth, getting

02:23:34.320 all the latest data.

02:23:35.000 Now, multiple sources have said that President Trump is set to win Florida.

02:23:39.380 They have called it for President Trump, multiple sources.

02:23:42.080 We're not putting it on the board yet.

02:23:43.320 We're going to wait for a little bit more clarification.

02:23:45.000 All right.

02:23:45.280 But it looks like, barring some kind of unforeseen craziness, President Trump is going to carry

02:23:49.760 Florida.

02:23:50.240 And that is with 86% of the precincts reporting.

02:23:53.360 Is this the breakdown of what is happening?

02:23:55.320 This is the current breakdown right now.

02:23:56.920 So 89% is the most recent data.

02:23:59.280 President Trump is at 50.4%.

02:24:01.360 Biden down at 48.7%.

02:24:03.480 And where the remaining votes are coming in from, traditional conservative strongholds.

02:24:07.660 It doesn't look like there's any way for Vice President Biden to make up the gap in Florida.

02:24:11.020 So we have the first state where it looks like all throughout the election, the polling

02:24:15.260 showed Biden up anywhere from two, five.

02:24:18.480 Some polls even had him up 10.

02:24:20.200 We did see the polls start to get a little bit closer this week.

02:24:22.880 President Trump and Biden alternating, being the lead in Florida.

02:24:26.280 But it looks like Florida is going to be going to President Trump.

02:24:29.840 Okay.

02:24:30.100 And that is 29 very big and important, or as the president would say, bigly important.

02:24:36.460 Exactly.

02:24:36.860 This was a must win for President Trump.

02:24:38.960 If he didn't take Florida, statistically speaking, it was going to be nearly impossible for him

02:24:42.860 to win the election before.

02:24:43.900 This is one of the core five states we've been tracking at the Daily Wire.

02:24:46.500 So this was a big one for him.

02:24:48.700 They can, for now, breathe a sigh of relief.

02:24:50.500 And now it's on to North Carolina, Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, all those big states.

02:24:55.260 All right.

02:24:55.640 Thank you guys so much.

02:24:56.720 We'll be bringing those updates, specifically North Carolina and Pennsylvania, where we're paying

02:25:00.300 attention.

02:25:00.740 And you've been talking about the polls.

02:25:02.000 Cabot just mentioned the polls were, you know, not necessarily, you know, how wrong

02:25:06.680 were they?

02:25:07.500 Once all the votes are counted, we'll see what that margin was.

02:25:11.020 And, but if the polls there were trending against the president and the vice president

02:25:15.180 in Florida, does that mean that other polling data that we've seen out of places like Pennsylvania,

02:25:20.020 North Carolina, is going to follow that trend?

02:25:22.260 We're going to be paying attention to that and bringing you guys updates as we get them.

02:25:25.360 And this, by the way, is the big question, is whether now is Florida indicative of other

02:25:29.960 polling errors all over the country, or is it that Florida just outperforms for Republicans,

02:25:34.220 that Florida is trending red?

02:25:35.460 I mean, we did see this last time.

02:25:37.160 We saw that Ron DeSantis defeated Andrew Gilman in a very bad year for Republicans in 2018.

02:25:41.980 And we saw that Florida remained rather red.

02:25:44.300 It may be that Florida is, in fact, trending red because Hispanic voters are trending toward

02:25:48.000 President Trump, particularly in Florida, where they are Cuban expatriates, Venezuelan

02:25:51.200 expatriates, Brazilian expatriates, because lumping in everybody from various different

02:25:55.500 countries as Latino and pretending that everybody is from the same country. 0.95

02:25:58.580 And Latinx.

02:25:59.100 Latinx, Latinx, Latinx.

02:26:01.260 By the way, the polling this year would be pretty egregious.

02:26:04.340 The 538 polling average did have Florida at 2.5 for Biden.

02:26:08.480 They're now predicting that it could be plus 3.4 for Trump.

02:26:11.360 That's a significant five-point error in favor of President Trump.

02:26:14.680 Outside the margin of error.

02:26:15.900 Outside the margin of error.

02:26:17.040 We'll see if that carries over to any place else like, for example, Ohio, which right now

02:26:21.940 looks like it's going to be a real dogfight.

02:26:23.660 Yeah.

02:26:23.780 So what I will say is that we had wondered at the beginning of the night, would we be in for

02:26:27.220 a short night or a long night?

02:26:28.880 If it was going to be 2012 all over again, the president would be losing Florida and we

02:26:33.060 would know there was no path to victory.

02:26:34.740 That is not what we're facing.

02:26:36.040 The president of the United States, Donald Trump, very competitive tonight, picking up

02:26:39.640 the state of Florida or almost certain now to pick up the state of Florida and therefore

02:26:43.900 is in a great position to battle it out for the rest of the night.

02:26:46.880 Dave Rubin, thank you for hanging out with us.

02:26:48.640 Really appreciate you coming in.

02:26:49.580 I especially appreciate the glasses.

02:26:51.900 I think they clasped the joint up.

02:26:53.040 It's been a pleasure being with you.

02:26:55.260 Obviously, I'm never going to see any of you ever again.

02:26:57.460 No.

02:26:57.840 And I'm going to go down with the ship here and you people will, you're looking at me

02:27:02.160 very seriously right now.

02:27:03.280 Well, I mean, it's sad.

02:27:03.840 You were very sad there.

02:27:05.520 It's a little sad.

02:27:06.560 I mean, attending your funeral, I'm going to just think back on this time.

02:27:10.560 I know.

02:27:10.880 And think, remember that time before Dave went down and fell on Scarface Blaze of Glory doing

02:27:15.660 ecstasy and firing machine guns at Eric Barsetti.

02:27:17.760 Remember that?

02:27:18.140 I'm going to joke about my impending doom, but I'm not the one moving to Del Boca Vista.

02:27:21.920 Okay.

02:27:23.860 Ben Shapiro just carried the state of Florida for President Trump.

02:27:27.840 This is correct.

02:27:28.800 One vote.

02:27:29.680 I am responsible.

02:27:30.640 Just as Candace Owens has radically shifted the black vote in favor of President Trump, 0.98

02:27:34.400 I shifted the Florida vote in favor of President Trump by my mere presence.

02:27:37.180 Just as I have historically shifted the vote in favor of Republicans in the state of California.

02:27:41.340 That's how much I'm back.

02:27:43.080 Can I do an all jokes aside to end this?

02:27:45.140 Because I'm not going to see you guys in person for a while.

02:27:46.960 Well, the fact that you guys are going and you put your money where your mouth is,

02:27:50.840 like we can fix this on many fronts.

02:27:53.000 I truly believe that.

02:27:54.220 Whether it's me here, you guys there, wherever everybody else ends up, like this is a country.

02:27:59.580 Like if we're going to remain a country, then some good people have to stay here and some

02:28:03.820 people have to have to get going.

02:28:05.580 And we'll do it.

02:28:07.360 Let's do it.

02:28:07.840 Let's fix this thing.

02:28:08.540 I have nothing better to do.

02:28:10.000 Do you guys?

02:28:10.800 Nothing at all.

02:28:11.560 I wanted to be in the NBA.

02:28:13.780 I appreciate you not only being here, but just your friendship and kinship over these

02:28:17.400 last several years as we've been launching our business, you've been launching your business.

02:28:20.920 It's been comforting knowing you're right down the street.

02:28:22.900 We'll be a little further away.

02:28:24.100 I feel like I had something to do with your higher hair also.

02:28:27.040 You know, this hair, I paid good money for this hair.

02:28:29.860 It has gone full.

02:28:30.640 There's something about Mary at this point.

02:28:31.780 I thought we said all joking aside, I was getting sentimental and now you guys are picking.

02:28:38.900 I just want to say very seriously, very earnestly and no jokes, Dave, the wisdom you have shown

02:28:43.120 us over the past like nine minutes or so since you took the glasses off and then chewed on

02:28:48.360 them a little has has floored me and really made me think.

02:28:52.800 He's got to leave now.

02:28:53.900 I'm questioning my sexuality.

02:28:55.360 Look at this.

02:28:56.100 He smolders.

02:28:56.740 The guy smolders.

02:28:58.560 Please.

02:28:59.280 Thank you, guys.

02:28:59.960 I'm going to sit up and shake your hand.

02:29:02.940 Am I attached to this thing?

02:29:04.700 Thank you, man.

02:29:05.340 And I'm not due to COVID restrictions.

02:29:06.760 So I will catch you later.

02:29:07.860 Dave, I'll miss you.

02:29:09.180 See you.

02:29:10.500 All right.

02:29:11.580 OK.

02:29:12.520 Go to a close up on me so we can get him unplugged before he walks away and tears up

02:29:16.280 the entire set.

02:29:17.780 OK, quick note.

02:29:19.980 I love this.

02:29:20.760 This is my favorite part of the evening is when things start to get a little bit worse

02:29:23.780 for Democrats and all of the estimates start to go down.

02:29:25.840 So we don't know where it's going from here.

02:29:26.980 Yeah.

02:29:27.180 But one of my favorite parts of the last 2016 election, as you'll recall, was watching the

02:29:32.020 estimate on Hillary Clinton go from ninety nine percent to zero percent over the course

02:29:36.640 of the night.

02:29:37.160 Five thirty eight is now reevaluating their shot that Biden wins the White House.

02:29:40.480 They had him at ninety percent.

02:29:41.420 They now have him at sixty six percent if Trump carries Florida.

02:29:44.740 So this does change the math rather radically.

02:29:47.060 So that is that is definitely a good thing.

02:29:49.380 Again, the state to keep your eye on now is Ohio, because Ohio is getting those votes in.

02:29:54.760 We are still waiting on more results from North Carolina at this point.

02:29:59.640 It is it is amazing to see how Hispanic voters in Florida moved dramatically, dramatically away

02:30:07.680 from the Democrats.

02:30:08.240 According to some of the early exit polls, Florida, Hillary Clinton, Hispanics in Florida 0.79

02:30:13.960 in twenty sixteen plus twenty seven for Hillary in twenty twenty plus eight for Biden, plus

02:30:19.360 eight for Biden.

02:30:20.880 OK, that is closing a nearly 20 point gap among Hispanic voters in the state of Florida.

02:30:24.540 Those exit polls are accurate.

02:30:25.500 In Georgia, Biden is underperforming by 15 percent versus Clinton among Hispanics.

02:30:30.200 And in Ohio, Hispanics are performing 17 points better for Donald Trump than they did

02:30:34.840 last time around, which demonstrates once and once again, it demonstrates two things. 0.98

02:30:39.060 One, Democrats are fools for relying on the demography is destiny argument. 0.99

02:30:42.580 That's a foolish argument. 1.00

02:30:43.620 And two, white nationalists are fools for relying on the demography is destiny argument. 1.00

02:30:47.180 Right. 1.00

02:30:47.320 The argument that only if there are more white voters and fewer Hispanic voters can there

02:30:51.520 be any hope for the rest of the country.

02:30:53.080 OK, the reality is people are individuals and people will think as individuals if treated

02:30:56.760 as individuals.

02:30:57.500 And that will be the hope of the Republican Party going forward.

02:31:01.420 Apparently, according to the New York Times needle, by the way, they've got those needles

02:31:03.820 back. And I know everybody hates on the needles, but the needles are great because honestly,

02:31:08.000 I mean, one of the things that's great about the needles is they do give you like a quick

02:31:11.880 and kind of down and dirty way of knowing exactly where things sort of stand in the race moment

02:31:16.380 to moment. They suggest that Trump is a slight favorite to carry North Carolina.

02:31:21.180 And obviously, they have Trump winning Florida and Trump a heavy favorite to win Georgia.

02:31:24.600 That would be a big miss by the polls, by the way, on Georgia as well.

02:31:27.820 Georgia was trending Trump in the latter days, according to RealClearPolitics.

02:31:31.740 And if you look at their polling average, Georgia was running basically dead even.

02:31:37.360 Five thirty eight had Georgia trending toward trending toward Biden.

02:31:40.380 So we'll see if these polls are systemically wrong.

02:31:42.440 If they're systemically wrong and often Trump wins reelection.

02:31:46.380 Unbelievable. So we're proud to welcome back our own Andrew Klavan.

02:31:50.640 We sent him on a bathroom break. He got lost.

02:31:54.000 I think he went up when he got himself a lovely dinner, met some nice people out front who were

02:31:58.140 spray painting in front of our building where we have it all boarded up.

02:32:01.240 You missed our farewell to our pal, Dave Rubin.

02:32:05.280 Yeah.

02:32:06.400 But you also missed the unbelievable news that the president is being some some outlets are

02:32:13.660 now calling Florida for the president. So we are in for a long night.

02:32:16.560 The president's competitive.

02:32:17.340 That looked good. You have to remember, Quinnipiac had him five points down.

02:32:21.520 That's outside the margin of error. 0.99

02:32:23.540 I just can't believe that bastard wouldn't use Latinx. 1.00

02:32:26.480 As we all know, only only racists refuse to use Latinx racists like every Latino person 1.00

02:32:31.640 you've ever met.

02:32:32.320 Can we also celebrate that the Mitch McConnell.

02:32:34.620 Oh, yeah, we did that earlier. You weren't here for the bucks.

02:32:36.640 I missed the celebration.

02:32:37.560 It was pretty fantastic. We actually did cocaine off the table.

02:32:41.540 I was doing that outside.

02:32:42.860 Oh, yeah. No, they they literally just took a giant pile of money and burned it.

02:32:46.080 It was it was the joker and saying, we're just trying to send a message here.

02:32:49.860 Then Kamala Harris broke into the joker laugh. 1.00

02:32:51.900 They should have written like a letter on each dollar bill because of a really long message.

02:32:56.900 But what's going on in Ohio?

02:32:58.780 Ohio is not looking good.

02:33:00.520 Yeah. Ohio is a little bit uglier. 0.87

02:33:02.220 So in a lot of the counties that Trump was winning heavily, particularly suburban counties

02:33:06.660 that he did pretty well in last time, he's underperforming in the suburban counties of Ohio.

02:33:11.620 He's really underperforming in places like Cincinnati is performing.

02:33:14.880 He won the counties surrounding Cincinnati, but they're not showing up in mass numbers.

02:33:19.340 He this is showing up closer to what he was pulled that is 20 in 2016 than what he showed

02:33:23.900 at in 2016.

02:33:25.040 OK, so in 2016, a lot of a lot of rural white voters showed up for Trump.

02:33:29.360 If they don't show up for Trump in Ohio, it's hard to see him winning Pennsylvania, I think,

02:33:32.540 because if that the question is competing patterns.

02:33:34.540 Right.

02:33:35.000 Is Florida the pattern or is Ohio the pattern?

02:33:36.760 Of course.

02:33:37.200 In Florida, he overperformed.

02:33:38.160 And my tendency is to think that if he underperforms in Ohio or if he underperforms in Texas,

02:33:42.620 that is more likely to predict the night than overperformance in Florida, because Florida

02:33:46.860 is just a fantastic frickin state.

02:33:48.400 And not only is Florida a fantastic frickin state again, Florida bucked the trend in 2018,

02:33:52.280 which is why Ron DeSantis, rather than a man who was caught in a room with meth and 0.98

02:33:56.200 a gay hooker, I ended up as as governor of Florida. 1.00

02:33:58.980 Yeah. 1.00

02:33:59.540 A communist who was caught in a room with meth and a gay hooker. 1.00

02:34:02.520 He had everything. 1.00

02:34:03.740 And he lost it.

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02:39:40.660 We will be doing that with our friends at PragerU.

02:39:43.260 We couldn't be more excited about it.

02:39:45.320 I'm also going to welcome to the show a good friend of, well, no one.

02:39:50.560 The man has no friends.

02:39:51.660 But he is a Daily Wire host.

02:39:53.340 And he's sometimes with us when he's in town.

02:39:55.960 People ask all the time, why isn't Matt Walsh part of Backstage?

02:39:59.700 Why isn't Matt Walsh part of your election night coverage?

02:40:01.960 Matt Walsh doesn't like us.

02:40:03.680 And Matt Walsh doesn't like airplanes.

02:40:05.500 And when you don't like us, and you don't like airplanes, and you live literally 3,200 miles 0.99

02:40:10.280 away, you're just not going to be on the damn show, people. 0.99

02:40:12.780 I'm sorry. 0.99

02:40:13.280 I try, believe me, I try.

02:40:15.640 Oh, Matt, what if we sent you a first class ticket?

02:40:18.460 And he's always like, oh, will they make me a mimosa?

02:40:20.640 I don't know, Matt.

02:40:21.580 It's COVID.

02:40:22.140 I can't promise it.

02:40:22.860 Well, if you can't promise me a mimosa, I can't possibly do it.

02:40:26.220 But he is with us tonight, streaming in from his new digs in Nashville, Tennessee, where

02:40:31.320 he'll be obviously much more integrated, I think, into some of these broadcasts than he's

02:40:35.240 been able to be in the past, because we'll be together finally.

02:40:37.980 Our good friend, Matt Walsh.

02:40:39.420 Matt, thanks for being with us.

02:40:42.020 Thanks for having me.

02:40:42.760 Thank you for that introduction.

02:40:43.980 It is true that I don't like anyone, but I do my best to pretend.

02:40:47.860 Not very well most of the time, but I do try to pretend.

02:40:50.140 You're not fooling anybody, Matt.

02:40:51.420 So, Matt, as a very cynical human being who's always downcast and depressing, are you downcast

02:40:57.100 and depressing tonight, or are you upbeat tonight?

02:40:59.500 And if so, why?

02:41:00.920 Well, my projection was that Kanye West would win the presidency, so I'm feeling depressed

02:41:07.520 about that.

02:41:08.100 I don't think that's going to happen.

02:41:10.080 You know, I don't know.

02:41:11.840 Looking at it right now, it seems like things are kind of trending like they did in 2016.

02:41:16.140 And no, I certainly wouldn't call myself optimistic, because I never am.

02:41:20.480 No one would call you that.

02:41:21.700 No one would call you that.

02:41:22.500 If that's how it turns out, then it's no big surprise, because, of course, the Democrats

02:41:27.780 are going to, if they lose, they're going to be talking about voter fraud and all these

02:41:31.140 different things.

02:41:31.800 But the reason why they lost, if they lose, it's simply because they're horrible.

02:41:37.160 And they've done absolutely nothing.

02:41:39.480 They've done not one thing in the last four years to attract new voters, especially the

02:41:44.720 voters they need in some of these states.

02:41:46.260 Everything they've done has been to appeal to, you know, pink-haired gender studies majors

02:41:51.400 and BLM looters. 0.56

02:41:54.340 That's everything they've done in four years has been just to appeal to that set.

02:41:57.680 And what we discover, maybe, at the end of the night, is that there aren't enough of people

02:42:02.580 in that category to win a national election.

02:42:05.080 But we'll see.

02:42:06.900 So, Matt Walsh, we have been ripping on the media all evening long.

02:42:10.580 And we expect you to do the same as an employee of DailyWire.com. 0.99

02:42:14.800 We are now billing ourselves as a replacement media because our media are such garbage. 0.99

02:42:18.040 So, please, spend the next two minutes and 37 seconds ripping the crap out of the media 0.99

02:42:21.660 because it is well-deserved. 0.90

02:42:24.480 Well, I mean, that's – no, I'm actually a big fan of the media.

02:42:27.280 You shouldn't have brought me on to that.

02:42:28.540 I love the national media.

02:42:30.900 No, I – listen, they've – you know, you look at some of the images in D.C.

02:42:38.140 and in New York and other – and you guys have talked about this in some of these cities

02:42:41.900 where they're boarding up windows and they have to call on the National Guard.

02:42:45.760 You know, I've – in the past, when I've seen other countries doing that sort of thing

02:42:50.740 for their elections, I've always felt good and felt sort of superior and thought,

02:42:55.580 well, we don't do that here.

02:42:57.020 I feel so good that we have peaceful elections and we don't have to worry about that.

02:43:01.240 And now we have become that sort of country and we know we have the media largely to thank for it.

02:43:06.940 And it's no big surprise when you go around telling people that you've got literally Hitler

02:43:12.160 in the White House and he's evil to his core and, you know, he's – and there are police officers 0.99

02:43:17.400 who are prowling the streets, hunting and murdering black people. 0.99

02:43:20.780 I mean, these lies have consequences and we're seeing the consequences. 0.99

02:43:24.080 And they're intentional consequences, too.

02:43:25.680 This is what the media wants.

02:43:26.660 So I have nothing but contempt for them.

02:43:30.000 Well, that's exactly what I was looking for.

02:43:33.400 So, honestly, you've just given me what I was looking for right there.

02:43:36.800 Matt, I want you to stick around with us as we welcome our next guest.

02:43:40.500 I told you that we've made a new partnership with our friends over at Prager University.

02:43:44.080 And, indeed, we've always had a partnership with our friends at Prager University

02:43:47.680 from helping with the animation of some of the videos from the earliest days of the company,

02:43:51.640 nearly the earliest days of the company, to also Michael Knowles and I

02:43:55.440 and our own Jared Cichel having the opportunity to work with Alan Estrin on many of the scripts.

02:44:00.000 We've always seen Prager U as a bit of a sister company,

02:44:02.220 and we're really pleased that we'll be working more closely going forward.

02:44:05.740 And here to help us celebrate that new partnership and to analyze the events of the evening,

02:44:11.600 we have our dear friend, Dennis Prager.

02:44:13.280 Dennis, welcome.

02:44:13.820 I am your dear friend.

02:44:14.920 You are our dear friend.

02:44:15.520 I love you guys.

02:44:16.900 And I'm going to say, I did not expect to say this, but it is what it is.

02:44:26.720 If the Republicans win, it's larger than Trump, but if the Republicans and the president win,

02:44:35.000 you and what we do and Turning Point and others, we have made a difference.

02:44:43.460 Yeah.

02:44:44.220 And I am thrilled that we have because this country is too important to the world.

02:44:53.080 Lincoln was right.

02:44:54.260 It is the last best hope on earth.

02:44:56.060 And allow me to say one other thing.

02:45:00.280 The story of the day is the boarding of the stores in America's cities.

02:45:07.940 You could cry that we have lived to see this day, but there's something even more dark about it.

02:45:17.060 That no one or well, we are the media are not.

02:45:22.560 And a lot of Americans are not blaming the left for the fact that people are boarding up their stores.

02:45:30.340 Right.

02:45:30.820 As if I heard a thing on one on one broadcast, I don't remember what chaos will break out.

02:45:41.720 That's like when a five year old.

02:45:43.540 Yes.

02:45:44.220 It's like when a five year old drops, spills grape juice on a white tablecloth.

02:45:49.960 It fell.

02:45:51.860 No five year old says I spilled it.

02:45:55.760 That's what this is.

02:45:56.860 No one has no one does the riots.

02:45:59.000 It's they it's chaos breaking out at best.

02:46:03.760 And that's if they don't actually blame right wing.

02:46:05.720 Oh, that's right.

02:46:06.480 Well said.

02:46:07.160 That's right.

02:46:07.600 And the shocking thing, too, is that this is these are not riots of the of the lower orders.

02:46:12.260 These are riots inspired by the richest, most successful, most powerful people among us, inspired and encouraged by media giants, by Amazon, by Netflix.

02:46:23.800 It's speeding into a narrative that makes people enraged at their country and makes people feel that this is an evil place.

02:46:30.420 The very people who have succeeded most here are the ones who are selling this now.

02:46:34.220 So there's a phenomenon that I've been thinking about for a while here.

02:46:37.320 There's an author named Nicholas Nassim Tlaib who writes about this called renormalization.

02:46:40.620 And it's how fringe ideas are basically wandered into majority propositions.

02:46:45.840 And I think that's what we've been watching with regard to the tolerance for rioting and looting by this small group of people.

02:46:52.220 The basic idea here is that the if you have, let's say to do this briefly, let's say that you have a family and one of the members of the family is vegetarian.

02:47:01.860 And they say, OK, I can only vegetarian, but you can eat what you want.

02:47:05.460 The mom is going to make one meal and it's going to be vegetarian for everybody because she doesn't have time to make two meals. 1.00

02:47:09.040 And then you take that family and you put them in a block party and they say, we eat vegetarian for our daughter.

02:47:14.400 So you can make one meal or you can make two meals.

02:47:16.220 They make one meal.

02:47:17.100 It's the same thing with regard to the rioting and the looting.

02:47:19.020 If you have one intransigent and radical group that refuses to go along with any silent majority proposition,

02:47:24.840 they can mobilize entire contingents of large based companies who refuse to say no because you have very much a sort of concentrated benefit to rioting and looting.

02:47:36.620 But a diffuse, a diffuse downside to that.

02:47:41.480 And until the American people say the diffuse downside.

02:47:43.480 It's also the weaponization of decency.

02:47:46.140 This is one of my gripes with some of our friends who remain never Trump.

02:47:49.320 David French, John Piper, Mitt Romney, some of these guys who, you know, John Piper and David French,

02:47:55.140 I think, have articulated this point of view the most eloquently over the over the past few weeks.

02:47:59.820 But what they really object to, they'll say Donald Trump doesn't have character.

02:48:03.680 And we all know that Donald Trump doesn't have traditional virtues as we might describe them.

02:48:08.860 But as we've discussed online, he does have virtues.

02:48:11.220 It's a different set of virtues and an important set at that.

02:48:13.860 Not seizing power during COVID, an aversion to violence that we haven't seen in a chief executive really since Ronald Reagan.

02:48:21.980 Those are actual virtues.

02:48:23.260 They were virtues that were missing in our chief executives most recently in our history.

02:48:27.180 But he's not what we might call a decent man.

02:48:29.880 He's not what we might call a nice man.

02:48:31.800 And there is an important role in the world for decency.

02:48:34.800 There's an important role in the world for niceness.

02:48:36.720 There's an important role in the world for kindness.

02:48:38.260 But it isn't the most important role.

02:48:40.760 And one of the things that's happened with, I think, the Christian church, I suspect, the Mormon church,

02:48:46.380 I suspect to some degree the Jewish community as well,

02:48:51.360 is that since the 80s, we've started to pivot away from hard theological truths

02:48:56.320 and pivot toward niceness as a replacement for religion.

02:49:01.680 And this is why evangelicals, by the way, now are more likely to be socialist

02:49:05.840 than to believe in concepts like the infallibility of Scripture,

02:49:09.880 which I'm not advocating for the infallibility of Scripture necessarily,

02:49:13.640 but it's certainly a long-held Christian belief that you would expect the evangelical church to adhere to.

02:49:18.680 And yet instead they're leaning toward socialism.

02:49:20.800 Why? Well, because their religion has been reduced down to niceness.

02:49:25.020 It's been reduced down to decency.

02:49:26.220 And by the way, you know, I've devoted my life,

02:49:30.180 and I'm finishing volume three of my five-volume commentary on the Torah.

02:49:33.900 By the way, you should go and pick it up.

02:49:35.060 Like, my wife reads it every Shabbat. It's fantastic.

02:49:36.920 Is that right? You made my day.

02:49:38.540 Thank you for that. Give her a big hug from me.

02:49:40.700 I'm sure you will anyway, but...

02:49:42.160 I will in the great state of Florida.

02:49:43.900 We're going to talk about how I'm taking you to Florida with me.

02:49:45.900 Oh, God, my son would love that.

02:49:49.360 And, you know, God isn't always nice.

02:49:52.320 Certainly.

02:49:53.780 He's just.

02:49:55.520 But not always nice.

02:49:58.080 By the way, there is no biblical word for nice.

02:50:01.060 There isn't.

02:50:01.820 It doesn't exist.

02:50:03.380 Yeah.

02:50:03.880 And my friend Jeremy Boring, I wish he could be here with us today,

02:50:08.200 has pointed out frequently.

02:50:09.440 You know, you have.

02:50:10.080 You have pointed out frequently that Jesus isn't all that nice.

02:50:12.300 It's very hard to find Jesus being like a pal.

02:50:15.840 You know, he is actually.

02:50:18.020 That's right.

02:50:18.820 But he's portrayed in movies.

02:50:21.120 Yes.

02:50:21.460 Like a nebbish.

02:50:22.180 As a hippie.

02:50:23.000 Oh, a nebbish. 0.97

02:50:23.960 Worse than a hippie. 0.94

02:50:25.000 I've always wanted to. 0.97

02:50:25.820 He's nerdy.

02:50:26.360 Wait, there's a difference. 0.93

02:50:26.860 There's something worse than a hippie?

02:50:28.840 Well. 1.00

02:50:30.460 Oh, a nebbish hippie is the worst. 0.98

02:50:32.160 I lived through the hippie. 0.96

02:50:33.660 I've often said I want to write a book called Jesus the Jerk. 0.98

02:50:36.580 The way that Jesus treats people out of love, but biblical love isn't sentimentality.

02:50:42.880 Right.

02:50:43.300 Biblical love means that you speak to people truthfully.

02:50:46.200 You tell them what's in their best interest to hear.

02:50:48.120 Love, from a biblical point of view, would be telling someone the thing that no one else

02:50:52.140 will dare to say to them.

02:50:54.040 Also, you know, there are virtues for the moment.

02:50:56.260 And this is not the moment for niceness.

02:50:58.440 The thing about Donald Trump that I think has struck me from the very beginning is that

02:51:02.040 I'm sorry it takes a man like Donald Trump to do what he has to do.

02:51:05.680 But it does.

02:51:06.580 I just don't think another kind of man, a nicer man, a more elegant man, would have

02:51:10.740 stood up to the kind of pressure he's gotten.

02:51:13.120 And that pressure.

02:51:13.640 I don't understand.

02:51:15.040 The issue, the never Trumpers, a guy called my radio show today, and he was so sincere

02:51:21.640 and eloquent.

02:51:22.600 And he just said, please, Dennis, explain to me never Trumpers.

02:51:25.860 I know all of them.

02:51:28.020 Most of them have made PragerU videos.

02:51:30.640 And I said to him that in truth, I still do not.

02:51:34.480 I cannot explain why God made the mosquito and I cannot explain never Trumpers.

02:51:40.320 They are tied for first place among the riddles of life.

02:51:44.360 How do you recognize the damage the left is doing to America and be a never Trumper?

02:51:50.560 You know, to be slightly kinder to some of them, because I think we're friends with all

02:51:54.280 the same people.

02:51:55.100 I think that I will make a division between people who have basically decided that they

02:51:59.100 have withdrawn from politics out of mere disgust at everything there is political.

02:52:02.580 And they're like, I'm just not going to vote versus the people like the Lincoln Project 0.95

02:52:06.080 who are actively fomenting.

02:52:07.440 I think that's what he was referring to.

02:52:10.820 So if he's talking about the Lincoln Project, there's Democrats for it.

02:52:12.720 It's a grift.

02:52:13.460 I mean, honestly, I have no other way of putting it.

02:52:14.820 It's a pure grift.

02:52:16.600 Max Boot, who used to publish me in the Wall Street Journal.

02:52:20.160 Yeah, he wrote a couple of great books on the war.

02:52:22.280 I don't know what happened.

02:52:23.440 And he is he is the child of refugees from the Soviet Union or he came from the Soviet Union.

02:52:28.640 And he called the week that Trump was elected.

02:52:31.940 He said he is Stalin.

02:52:33.460 Stalin? 0.54

02:52:34.600 Wow.

02:52:35.120 Trump? 0.99

02:52:36.320 My mother would have said, wash your mouth out with soap. 1.00

02:52:39.540 In fairness, the only difference between Donald Trump and Stalin is about 20 million people.

02:52:44.900 The only difference, Dennis.

02:52:46.900 That's a good point.

02:52:48.060 That's a good point.

02:52:48.480 OK, so, Dennis, let's talk about why you're staying here in this hellhole state.

02:52:51.700 So I have an answer.

02:52:53.080 I've left.

02:52:54.060 And I will tell you, I've been gone for like a month.

02:52:56.800 And?

02:52:57.060 It's phenomenal.

02:52:57.980 Like, what are you doing?

02:52:59.620 The air is clean.

02:53:00.820 It's a red state.

02:53:01.720 There's a great Jewish community.

02:53:03.060 You have a kid there.

02:53:04.160 Yes.

02:53:04.340 What are you doing?

02:53:04.800 Why are you paying your extraordinary levels of taxation to this hellhole state so that they

02:53:08.420 can promote all the values you hate?

02:53:09.620 Why?

02:53:10.320 Because I have so many people I love here.

02:53:13.700 That is the only answer.

02:53:15.980 It is a good answer.

02:53:16.840 They invented phones, Dennis.

02:53:17.640 I'm sorry?

02:53:18.140 They invented phones.

02:53:19.700 The Internet exists.

02:53:21.000 You can't even see them due to COVID.

02:53:22.000 I created a synagogue here.

02:53:23.780 These are people I love.

02:53:25.780 Obviously, we meet every Saturday.

02:53:28.680 There is.

02:53:29.740 That's the issue.

02:53:30.800 There were.

02:53:31.720 For me, people is first.

02:53:34.140 People uber alas.

02:53:37.040 How's that?

02:53:38.020 It reminds me of a song.

02:53:39.300 Eject a little.

02:53:42.240 After all, we're on the right.

02:53:43.700 I think what you're saying is actually important.

02:53:47.680 One of the things, you know, it distresses me from time to time, the business that we're

02:53:51.500 all in.

02:53:52.200 There's something unpleasant about the business that we're all in, right?

02:53:54.560 And we referred earlier to Moses not getting to go into the promised land and David not

02:53:59.400 being able to build the temple.

02:54:00.380 There's a cost that you pay to wield certain kinds of influence, a cost to leadership,

02:54:05.620 a cost to wealth, a cost to fame, cost to the kinds of influence that we've built with

02:54:10.980 our lives.

02:54:12.540 We play in a space where we focus on politics as the most important thing that we talked

02:54:19.580 about, but politics is not the most important thing that there is.

02:54:22.880 It's a fundamentally left-wing premise to think that politics is the most important thing.

02:54:26.340 Of course, the most important thing are the people in your life, the people you have, the

02:54:30.580 people that God has actually given you to.

02:54:31.660 Well, that goes to one of my core beliefs.

02:54:34.240 You know, I've written a book on happiness and I'm not mentioning it to sell the book.

02:54:37.600 I just want to make that clear.

02:54:38.720 I'm mentioning it because...

02:54:39.880 But he's not not trying to sell it.

02:54:41.360 No, no.

02:54:42.000 I'm not not.

02:54:42.960 Buy a used copy, folks.

02:54:44.360 I don't give a hoot.

02:54:46.060 I'm saying it because I have known from an early age how important happiness is, the moral

02:54:52.180 significance of happiness.

02:54:53.800 Yes.

02:54:54.020 And here is where I do an hour every week on my radio show called the happiness hour.

02:55:00.440 That's for 20 years.

02:55:01.940 I've done it.

02:55:02.700 So that is a thousand hours of unhappiness.

02:55:07.120 And every week I say, OK, it's the happiness hour because the happy make the world better

02:55:13.340 and the unhappy make it worse.

02:55:16.060 And I while the hour is not political on other hours of my show, I have noted I have never

02:55:23.360 met a happy leftist.

02:55:25.280 I have met happy and unhappy liberals, happy and unhappy conservatives.

02:55:29.780 But there is no no.

02:55:31.620 The moment you become happy, you leave leave leftism.

02:55:35.200 Here's a I made up a riddle.

02:55:36.720 I've made up one riddle in my whole life.

02:55:38.320 Ready?

02:55:38.920 What do you call a happy black?

02:55:40.520 A Republican.

02:55:44.940 It's a good riddle.

02:55:46.440 Yeah.

02:55:46.600 It's a good riddle.

02:55:46.880 I think that one of the problems in religion, one of the problems with charity, you know,

02:55:51.300 is that it's very easy to dehumanize people you don't have to interact with.

02:55:55.560 So people love to give money to Africa or they love to give money to in foreign contributions,

02:56:01.100 but they don't want to actually give money to their brother who they loaned money to five

02:56:05.560 years ago and he kind of blew through it.

02:56:07.180 And it's a little bit of a drinking problem because he's a real human to them.

02:56:09.820 They actually know his flaws.

02:56:11.080 They're able to you're sort of able to idealize people you don't know.

02:56:14.980 And one of the problems that I see in politics is we take the actual communities that we are

02:56:19.780 in and social media has made this much worse.

02:56:22.080 We take the community we are actually in and we lessen its value to us in favor of these 0.98

02:56:28.120 abstract communities of strangers who agree with us, who like us on social media, thumbs

02:56:32.660 up the things that we say.

02:56:34.120 I had this conversation with my mom one time.

02:56:37.080 And as all of us do, she got riled up about something that someone we know said on Facebook.

02:56:41.700 She was upset about it.

02:56:42.940 We've all been in that same position.

02:56:44.440 But in that moment, I realized like that was my that was my across the street neighbor when

02:56:48.180 I was growing up, like when I was a small child and I would ride my bicycle in the street

02:56:52.940 if I'd been hit by a car.

02:56:54.360 That's the actual person who would have come out and cared for me.

02:56:57.540 And politics would have been meaningless in that situation.

02:57:00.220 And because of the sort of evil temptation of politics, we're dehumanizing those people

02:57:06.440 in our lives.

02:57:07.180 And, you know, it's true.

02:57:08.420 It's the old Charles Schultz peanuts gag.

02:57:11.560 I love humanity.

02:57:12.580 It's people I can't stand.

02:57:14.060 And the fact is, I feel exactly the opposite.

02:57:16.140 That's it.

02:57:16.800 That's it.

02:57:17.480 That's our defining element of conservatives.

02:57:19.840 I mean, I have contempt for humanity and love humans.

02:57:22.380 That's it.

02:57:22.660 That's my line all my life.

02:57:25.180 Bingo.

02:57:25.880 That's the way I meet every person I meet.

02:57:27.980 I find something incredibly beautiful as a race.

02:57:31.120 We know you hit it on the nose.

02:57:34.600 So we're going to get an update from our daily wire war room on what's happening in the various

02:57:39.740 states right now.

02:57:40.340 I know as much as you love our insight, what you care the most about, who's about to beat

02:57:44.060 the president.

02:57:45.020 So, Alicia, tell us what's happening out there.

02:57:48.940 Hi, Alicia.

02:57:50.480 I mean, what is fascinating is I'm hanging out in this war room with all the people that

02:57:54.760 are gathering all the data, that understand all the data, like our very own editor, Ian

02:57:58.680 Howarth.

02:57:59.460 And when I hear him say, wow, wow, wow, and I'm like, what happened?

02:58:05.220 Tell everyone why you're wowed.

02:58:07.360 I mean, especially as an English person, if I share any emotion at all, you're like, okay,

02:58:10.160 something's up.

02:58:10.480 So what's going on?

02:58:11.620 So after it looks like Florida was going in the direction of Trump, fingers crossed

02:58:15.380 there, we took a sigh of relief, blood pressure went down a little bit.

02:58:18.020 Now we're looking towards Georgia and North Carolina.

02:58:19.900 So we've got some data here, which we found is fascinating.

02:58:23.000 So New York Times projection for Georgia is 85% Trump, and the New York Times projection

02:58:27.920 for North Carolina is 75% Trump.

02:58:30.280 Wow.

02:58:30.580 So just some data to add some context there.

02:58:33.460 Georgia, 24% reporting, and Biden is outperforming Clinton by more than 10% in Fulton County,

02:58:39.060 which is where Atlanta.

02:58:39.880 So we should take that with a pinch of salt, because if they have huge turnout there, Stacey

02:58:43.320 Abrams, you know, the governor of Georgia, Queen of Narnia, whatever her position is,

02:58:47.100 she's pushing pretty hard for some votes to turn out there. 1.00

02:58:49.980 Okay.

02:58:50.360 And North Carolina, 67% reporting.

02:58:53.360 So the numbers look a little better there.

02:58:55.640 Holding our breath, because if those go Trump's way, this night's looking better.

02:58:58.900 Well, I mean, we already said that if Florida went his way, which it is, it was going to

02:59:02.940 be an easier path to victory.

02:59:05.120 I mean, you have been looking at the data in Georgia.

02:59:07.760 So you're saying, like, fascinating that the projections are showing that it could be trending

02:59:11.860 Trump, but you're still waiting on the Atlanta area?

02:59:14.260 Yeah, I want to see some of those areas.

02:59:17.400 Same as, like, Florida with Miami-Dade, I want to see Biden perform weaker there before

02:59:22.860 I start celebrating too hard.

02:59:24.100 Okay.

02:59:24.900 All right.

02:59:25.400 Well, I mean, we have some Daily Wire members that are probably in the middle of celebrating

02:59:29.280 right now as they are watching this.

02:59:31.040 Thank you for that update.

02:59:31.900 Thank you.

02:59:32.020 We'll come back to you guys when we have more updates, we promise.

02:59:35.300 And for right now, we're going to get some member questions, because people definitely

02:59:38.380 want to know.

02:59:39.020 First of all, my mom wants to know if I have done ecstasy, and that's a hard no.

02:59:43.820 Just letting Nana know there, no pot, no ecstasy, none of the things, never been to Coachella,

02:59:51.380 don't plan on going at all.

02:59:53.280 Wanted to toss a question to Dennis Prager, if we can, because we have some awesome Daily

02:59:58.920 Wire fans over there.

03:00:00.480 And they want to know, from the great Dennis Prager, how long are you staying in California?

03:00:05.560 No, I'm just kidding.

03:00:06.420 You've already gotten enough.

03:00:09.000 You've gotten enough there.

03:00:10.540 But, Dennis, is it actually possible to turn California?

03:00:13.980 Do you think, like Dave Rubin was saying earlier, are enough people disgusted with Eric Garcetti

03:00:18.860 and Gavin Newsom that we could see a trend in, you know, two Republicans here?

03:00:23.860 I don't see it, because this is a puzzle up there with the mosquito issue.

03:00:34.580 Why don't people hold the left responsible for what they do?

03:00:41.620 It's a puzzle to me.

03:00:44.500 California has been ruined.

03:00:47.640 To ruin California actually takes an effort.

03:00:50.900 Right.

03:00:51.020 It's rich, the greatest weather literally on Earth, with the possible exception of Perth

03:00:57.540 and Cape Town.

03:00:58.320 I've looked into it.

03:00:59.480 The greatest weather on Earth, the greatest natural resources, including farming.

03:01:03.940 I mean, natural in every way.

03:01:06.280 We have everything.

03:01:08.300 And it is the place of joy.

03:01:10.940 Go west, young man.

03:01:12.180 This is where the opportunities were.

03:01:13.980 The left has ruined California.

03:01:17.780 And they're not held responsible.

03:01:19.580 This is what blows.

03:01:21.700 The right is held responsible for what it doesn't do.

03:01:24.260 We blamed Katrina on Bush.

03:01:28.140 Right.

03:01:28.360 We blame, by the way, we blame coronavirus on the president.

03:01:33.960 Why doesn't, why didn't the Republican Party take out ads? 0.64

03:01:37.980 Then do you blame the Belgian prime minister for the fact that there are more deaths per million

03:01:42.880 in Belgium?

03:01:44.080 Right.

03:01:44.260 Do you blame every country's leaders for the coronavirus deaths or only America's leader

03:01:50.160 because you hate Trump?

03:01:51.120 So, Dennis, I'm going to say Dennis Prager back to you because you know the answer to

03:01:55.060 your own question, which is this is a religious worldview.

03:01:57.400 They have made leftism their religion.

03:01:58.960 And so it's completely unfalsifiable.

03:02:00.820 If leftism doesn't perform, it's because it has not been sufficiently tried.

03:02:04.480 If Donald Trump is in office, then you get to blame everything bad that happens on Donald

03:02:08.780 Trump.

03:02:09.040 And if Hillary Clinton had been in office, then it would have been she saved two million 0.98

03:02:11.760 lives.

03:02:12.180 It's a completely unfalsifiable thesis.

03:02:14.780 That's the answer.

03:02:15.560 You know, it is.

03:02:16.000 So it's no longer in the mosquito realm.

03:02:17.620 Exactly.

03:02:18.220 All I had to do was cite a man named Dennis Prager.

03:02:20.420 His videos are now available at DailyWire.com.

03:02:22.940 DailyWire.com.

03:02:23.840 His videos will now be available.

03:02:25.500 Dennis, if you'll stick around with us, we have another good treat for our Daily Wire viewers

03:02:29.580 right now, and that is that we are joined by and also joining because of the magic of

03:02:34.200 the Internet.

03:02:34.600 It's a cross stream.

03:02:35.960 I don't know who gets to take credit for it, but, you know, as long as it's me talking,

03:02:38.660 I'm going to take credit for it.

03:02:39.760 We're being joined currently by our good friend, Stephen Crowder, who is also live all night

03:02:45.340 the way that we are.

03:02:45.920 Look at him, that handsome.

03:02:46.640 Yes, we are live.

03:02:47.340 Can you hear me now?

03:02:48.280 I can hear you.

03:02:49.220 I can hear you, Stephen.

03:02:50.000 Well, I tried to call in, and then Dennis Prager over there was holding court for some reason.

03:02:55.540 He's got a university or something like that.

03:02:58.280 That's Phil Jackson.

03:02:59.040 Dennis, we got stuff to do, too.

03:03:03.020 Well, listen, I want to know what you guys expect tonight.

03:03:05.820 I went through why I think it's far more likely for Trump to win than not and how Biden actually

03:03:12.080 needs to run.

03:03:12.700 The only person who needs to run the board tonight is Biden.

03:03:14.980 Biden needs to win Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania.

03:03:17.160 He needs to win all of them if Trump holds on to North Carolina, Georgia, Arizona, which

03:03:20.460 I think he will.

03:03:21.420 And I sort of contrasted this with the modeled party votes that we saw in states, and it was

03:03:28.200 accurate.

03:03:28.700 Would we say, guys, to the letter with Florida thus far?

03:03:32.180 Yeah, pretty far.

03:03:32.280 Yeah.

03:03:32.400 And I think we'll see it in Ohio.

03:03:33.720 So what are you guys expecting?

03:03:34.920 What's the feeling over there between the two Gentiles? 0.51

03:03:38.580 Well, I guess one Gentile and two and a half Jews.

03:03:41.640 So, as you know, actually, Dennis and I together add up to two Jews.

03:03:49.240 I'm like half, and Dennis is like a Jew and a half.

03:03:54.620 You know, the, I think that the feeling.

03:03:58.140 Wait, are you guys just going to avoid the incredible discomfort that Andrew Klavan converted

03:04:01.760 from Judaism?

03:04:03.680 Yeah, we just ignore that.

03:04:05.060 We pretend that's it now.

03:04:06.180 Until they need the magic healing, Steve.

03:04:09.320 All right.

03:04:10.700 We'll see how it all comes out in God's ledger.

03:04:12.740 You should watch Andrew handle snakes.

03:04:15.120 It is remarkable.

03:04:16.180 By the way, Klavan will be the first person to find out whether he was right or wrong in

03:04:19.420 this room.

03:04:21.040 And you'll get a note.

03:04:22.420 You're going to get a note.

03:04:23.300 So I think that the feeling in this room right now.

03:04:26.720 At least his note will include a tip.

03:04:28.280 Go ahead.

03:04:28.460 That's true.

03:04:30.300 Cautious optimism, I think, is the feeling in this room.

03:04:33.600 At least for me.

03:04:34.240 Cautious optimism.

03:04:35.460 Right now, they're saying that North Carolina looks like it's trending Trump.

03:04:38.880 Georgia's trending Trump.

03:04:39.800 Texas is going to stick Trump.

03:04:41.140 Which means the next state that we're really going to find out about, Pennsylvania and Ohio.

03:04:44.940 And there, these are all too close.

03:04:47.040 These are all too close for comfort.

03:04:48.800 So I think, I don't want to get over.

03:04:50.720 No.

03:04:51.060 No.

03:04:51.220 No.

03:04:51.540 Ohio is not too close for comfort.

03:04:53.140 Ohio is not a swing state.

03:04:54.400 Stephen, you spend more time than we do in the Rust Belt.

03:04:57.240 I mean, you have a lot of roots in Michigan and spend a lot of time there and war with 0.52

03:05:01.860 their governor routinely.

03:05:04.860 Tell us what you're thinking about those states.

03:05:07.000 Why isn't Ohio a swing state?

03:05:08.360 What are you saying that we're missing?

03:05:10.380 Well, Ohio is not a swing state because if you look at the early voting, and I had this

03:05:14.060 up before, actually Donald Trump won Ohio by, I believe it was eight points last go around.

03:05:18.560 But actually, Democrats outnumbered Republicans in 2016, which means there was a huge portion

03:05:24.060 of Democrats who voted for Trump, registered Democrats.

03:05:26.640 And even now with the early voting, without any of today's voting in, we're already seeing

03:05:30.640 Republicans with a pretty wide margin in Ohio versus Biden.

03:05:36.120 So if you believe that Democrats will come out today and vote, outvote Republicans three

03:05:39.700 to one, then maybe.

03:05:40.860 Otherwise, I don't even think it's close.

03:05:42.340 Now, outside of that, Michigan, there's about a four point spread when you look at the modeled

03:05:46.440 party model.

03:05:47.960 But again, Donald Trump won that where he was down about four points.

03:05:50.980 Again, so that would mean that if he's down four points, he could be up seven, really,

03:05:57.220 in Michigan, because a lot of Democrats will vote for Donald Trump.

03:05:59.660 Now, I don't know that Donald Trump will be victorious in Michigan or Pennsylvania.

03:06:03.560 I don't think we'll know Pennsylvania until we look in every single ditch and find a few

03:06:07.440 extra million.

03:06:08.260 But here's the question, right?

03:06:12.240 Logically speaking, if Donald Trump hangs on to North Carolina and Georgia, which everyone

03:06:16.480 was saying was a swing state.

03:06:17.740 And I said, I'm very, very confident in Florida and Ohio long before Georgia and North Carolina.

03:06:22.860 So if those go Trump, I am.

03:06:24.980 I mean, I will eat this bag of coffee.

03:06:28.160 Black rifle, wonderful sponsor.

03:06:29.680 If Ohio goes to Biden.

03:06:31.500 And I also would be surprised to see Arizona go to Biden.

03:06:33.800 So when people say that, guess what?

03:06:35.240 Trump just needs to win either Pennsylvania or Michigan.

03:06:38.980 If that map that I just laid out for you remains true, guess what?

03:06:41.380 Biden needs to win Minnesota.

03:06:42.560 Not enough.

03:06:43.200 Wisconsin.

03:06:43.820 Not enough.

03:06:44.460 Add Michigan.

03:06:45.100 Not enough.

03:06:45.760 Pennsylvania.

03:06:46.380 Now he gets over it.

03:06:47.580 What do we think is more likely that Donald Trump keeps the states that we've all agreed

03:06:51.360 upon here and wins either one Michigan or Pennsylvania or that Biden runs the entire blue

03:06:58.180 wall?

03:06:58.740 I think the former is more likely and Michigan could go either way.

03:07:04.020 But I don't think Ohio is too close for comfort, Ben.

03:07:06.080 I don't want to say that you're a defeatist, but come on, there's no way Ohio is going for

03:07:09.160 Biden.

03:07:09.940 I'm very surprised.

03:07:11.000 I'm still getting over Ben Shapiro being cautiously optimistic.

03:07:14.480 That's for the rest of us.

03:07:16.020 That's funny time.

03:07:19.380 Cautiously optimistic for Ben is still very negative.

03:07:24.640 Stephen, I have a question for you that transcends the political.

03:07:27.300 Are you actually, are you strapped right now?

03:07:31.260 Yes.

03:07:32.040 What are you wearing?

03:07:34.180 This is a wonderful, actually, I'm going classic.

03:07:36.900 This is a .357 Magnum, Smith & Wesson Model 686.

03:07:40.840 It's an old revolver that carries seven shots of .357 Magnum and some moon clips in here.

03:07:45.240 So we have many guns in this office.

03:07:47.420 We don't live in California.

03:07:48.880 I don't know if you're in Nashville.

03:07:50.160 Are you investigating a murder?

03:07:51.440 Like what exactly is going on over there?

03:07:54.140 Well, you know what?

03:07:55.080 I will tell you this.

03:07:55.620 I wore it once for open carry, and I came home, and my wife just got very comfortable. 0.96

03:08:02.260 Good enough for me, dude.

03:08:03.460 I cannot argue with that logic.

03:08:05.140 My wife likes suspenders, but who am I, Larry King?

03:08:08.840 So I just wear the open carry, and my wife likes it. 0.87

03:08:11.680 She's like, I really like it, and I enjoy it.

03:08:14.180 And it makes me look tougher than anyone else on this stream, which is good, which is really all I was aiming for.

03:08:18.940 If you didn't look tougher than the people on this stream, you'd be in real trouble.

03:08:22.460 I will say, and I rarely pay you compliments.

03:08:25.580 Dennis Craver's a big guy.

03:08:26.560 He's like 6'5".

03:08:27.600 Well, you don't want to wrestle with Dennis.

03:08:29.740 That's for sure.

03:08:30.460 But I rarely give you compliments on the account of I hate you and all, and I got to see if he waterboarded that time.

03:08:35.340 You don't even need a gun. 0.99

03:08:37.060 You're a freaking giant who practices Brazilian jiu-jitsu. 0.99

03:08:40.880 I think that you're going to take good care of yourself. 0.98

03:08:44.200 Well, thank you very much.

03:08:46.620 But that being said, in the street, I've always avoided physical altercations, and I will say this to anyone who tells you this out there.

03:08:53.240 If it does come down to a physical altercation, I'll take a gun.

03:08:55.780 Just like the whole Gracie family who created the UFC.

03:08:58.360 They're like, in the street?

03:08:59.400 What are you, out your mind? 1.00

03:09:00.780 I'm going to go bang, bang, shoot. 1.00

03:09:02.840 You're dead. 1.00

03:09:03.760 So, yeah, it's nice to roll around the mats and drunk uncle jiu-jitsu. 0.99

03:09:08.660 But otherwise, they're getting some .357 or my wall.

03:09:11.260 The real reason that he knows Brazilian jiu-jitsu is just because that's how he gets to know people and greets them.

03:09:16.760 Literally, the first time he came over to my house, he put me in a headlock and put me in a sleeper hole.

03:09:20.820 This almost knocked me out.

03:09:21.840 This is a fact.

03:09:22.280 No, no, no, no, no.

03:09:22.860 Absolute fact.

03:09:23.800 That's a lie.

03:09:24.220 I tapped out.

03:09:25.260 Ben, correct that lie because you're an honest guy, and I don't want the alt-right people to go out there with ammo and perpetuating a negative stereotype.

03:09:32.180 I did not walk up and choke you.

03:09:34.140 I asked you, and you said, okay, be careful.

03:09:36.560 And you forgot to mention that you had a hernia.

03:09:40.940 You didn't tell me.

03:09:42.320 Okay, first of all, I'm Jewish.

03:09:43.440 It goes without saying I have a hernia.

03:09:45.440 It goes without saying I have a hernia.

03:09:47.460 Come on.

03:09:50.360 This is a true story.

03:09:54.560 And then I was outside of Ben Shapiro's apartment going, I think you live where they shot the original Karate Kid.

03:10:00.460 Steven and I have the weirdest non-sexual S&M relationship.

03:10:06.160 Like the first time we got together in a room, he put me in a headlock, and then I watched him be waterboarded.

03:10:11.840 And frankly, we just need to stay out of the same state, isn't it?

03:10:15.140 You know what was worse than waterboarding?

03:10:17.000 I was at Ben Shapiro's, and I thought we would never talk again.

03:10:19.620 Because Ben Shapiro put me up for, I won't name it specifically, but he put me up, he recommended me, he was very nice, for a morning radio drive show.

03:10:25.520 That's true, I did.

03:10:26.000 Where it was like a news show, and he said, here, he had his whole, I think his show was in Orlando, he had his whole radio set up.

03:10:31.520 And then, like, the day before I did it, I was going to go, I'm going to do what this show is.

03:10:35.360 And they said, we don't want any opinion, it's straight news.

03:10:37.760 And I bombed in Ben Shapiro's den so badly that I remember sitting there for five minutes before I opened the door just because I didn't want to look Ben in the face.

03:10:49.880 I was like, you looked me in the eyes, and then they told me to do straight news.

03:10:53.860 And I made a joke about it.

03:10:55.380 They were like, what, Ben said, what did you know? 0.99

03:10:56.720 Like, something about my penis size. 0.99

03:10:58.040 I don't know. 0.99

03:10:58.420 I didn't break FCC rules.

03:10:59.760 But I know they didn't like it.

03:11:01.400 I'm so sorry.

03:11:02.740 I'm so sorry, Ben.

03:11:04.880 So, no, I do remember that.

03:11:06.200 It's been a rocky road.

03:11:06.800 It's been a rocky road.

03:11:08.720 Let's just focus in again on the fact that you have a wife and I have a wife and all that.

03:11:12.780 Let's go back to that.

03:11:13.260 I give salt.

03:11:13.940 I give salt.

03:11:15.120 Let's focus on the fact that you have a very, very good-looking wife, Ben.

03:11:17.940 That's true.

03:11:18.720 As do you.

03:11:19.420 I didn't know.

03:11:20.120 I know.

03:11:20.480 It's not a fair world.

03:11:22.200 I mean, I think we have to take that.

03:11:23.020 It is not a fair world.

03:11:24.200 Hey, by the way, by the way, I just saw Ben Shapiro's sister for the first time three days ago.

03:11:29.380 Really?

03:11:29.880 It is amazing how much they look alike.

03:11:31.700 She's not going anyplace good.

03:11:32.300 But it's insane.

03:11:33.060 It's insane.

03:11:33.620 They look alike.

03:11:35.120 Oh, God.

03:11:35.880 They look alike.

03:11:36.940 But she's also beautiful.

03:11:38.440 It's kind of like a square circle.

03:11:40.160 It doesn't make any sense.

03:11:41.080 A friend of mine met the president for the first time.

03:11:45.820 He's a middle-aged guy.

03:11:48.240 And he has a beautiful wife.

03:11:50.500 And he told me he met the president.

03:11:53.540 This was basically the entirety of the dialogue because they posed for a picture.

03:11:57.540 And he said to the president, my daughter is currently interning, which she is, at the White House.

03:12:04.120 He has my fourth great daughter, this guy.

03:12:06.040 And Trump looks at the guy with total seriousness and says, I hope she got her looks from your wife.

03:12:13.860 That was the irony of the conversation.

03:12:18.140 Hail to the chief began playing in the background.

03:12:22.520 That same story happened with Joe Biden.

03:12:24.600 He said, I hope she uses PERT+.

03:12:26.620 True story.

03:12:31.140 And then we will have to let you guys go.

03:12:32.340 So we taped this video the other day where I was asking people about Charlottesville, very fine people on both sides.

03:12:37.600 It was a terrific video, by the way.

03:12:39.560 I thought you did a great job with it.

03:12:41.000 And I made a horrible mistake.

03:12:42.740 I said Charlottesville, North Carolina.

03:12:44.180 Of course I know it's Virginia and Charlotte, North Carolina.

03:12:46.240 That's one of those things.

03:12:47.040 So fact check me.

03:12:49.120 So I want to make sure that I'm clear about that.

03:12:51.600 But what happened was, I don't remember what I was going to say.

03:12:53.940 What were we talking about before this?

03:12:55.320 Oh, oh, oh.

03:12:56.080 There was a lady saying that Donald Trump was sexist.

03:12:58.520 And I said, OK.

03:12:59.400 And you believe that, and half Asian bill my lawyer will like this.

03:13:02.340 And I said, and you believe this?

03:13:04.620 Why?

03:13:04.900 She said, well, I think he hates everything.

03:13:05.860 You don't have any respect for him.

03:13:06.600 And I said, OK, but you believe that Biden does?

03:13:08.060 She said, yes, absolutely.

03:13:08.860 And I did all of these equations in my head, I swear to you, within two seconds.

03:13:12.940 I was this close to just leaning into her and going and sniffing her.

03:13:18.800 And then I said, no, wait a second.

03:13:20.000 If I do that, I'll get sued.

03:13:21.300 But then I said, wait, that would be absolutely hysterical because I could get sued for doing

03:13:24.820 exactly what Joe Biden did.

03:13:26.400 However, I don't want to be locked up in lawsuits.

03:13:28.140 So maybe I'll just say, what if I sniffed you right now?

03:13:30.780 And I felt like that would undercut the argument.

03:13:32.140 So I said nothing.

03:13:33.420 But all of those calculations in about four seconds, I just want to lean and go.

03:13:37.120 The maturity, the mature, watching the maturing of Stephen Crowder.

03:13:48.060 You're right.

03:13:48.980 Absolutely.

03:13:49.500 Three years ago, I would have just been I would have sniffed her. 0.99

03:13:52.040 I would have been like nibbling her earlobe.

03:13:56.760 Stephen, thanks for hanging out with us tonight.

03:13:59.560 And thanks for your prediction.

03:14:00.900 I'm hopeful that you know more about the Rust Belt than we do.

03:14:05.080 I'm hopeful that your way of looking at this is the right way, because I think the one

03:14:07.940 thing we all know is that that hair sniffer cannot be the president of the United States. 0.88

03:14:12.160 No.

03:14:12.760 Right.

03:14:13.060 Well, let me ask you one question.

03:14:14.140 One question, everyone.

03:14:15.340 Arizona, Arizona.

03:14:16.560 How do you think it goes?

03:14:18.580 Well, I mean, the way that Trump is performing with Hispanics in Texas, I'm a lot more positive 1.00

03:14:23.280 than than I was earlier today about Arizona.

03:14:25.900 I thought it was nice.

03:14:26.700 I think I got a favor of him in Arizona now.

03:14:28.440 What about the black vote?

03:14:29.660 That that we've said might be the biggest ever for Republicans.

03:14:33.640 So it is in Florida, but we don't have enough stats.

03:14:36.080 And we are seeing some movement be significant.

03:14:37.960 We're seeing some we're seeing some movement, not really in Georgia, as far as I've seen

03:14:41.060 the North Carolina, some of the some of the majority black district.

03:14:43.860 Hey, hey, Mensa members, let's stay on Arizona. 0.83

03:14:46.300 I wanted to go out on a quick note.

03:14:49.300 Arizona, does everyone say Trump or Biden?

03:14:51.500 Yeah, I got to let you go.

03:14:52.460 I'll say Trump.

03:14:53.000 I'll say Trump in Arizona.

03:14:54.140 Yeah.

03:14:54.460 OK.

03:14:54.780 The question is the Senate race in Arizona.

03:14:57.420 Yeah, that's a good point.

03:14:58.860 All right.

03:14:59.100 Thank you, guys.

03:15:00.080 Dailywire.com.

03:15:01.000 Where's your stream for people to watch it?

03:15:02.900 Dailywire.com.

03:15:03.720 Thank you, Stephen.

03:15:04.400 And thanks to all of our friends at the Blaze and Lattery.

03:15:06.620 Absolutely.

03:15:07.060 We may check in with you later.

03:15:08.160 All right.

03:15:08.580 Be well, gentlemen.

03:15:09.360 We will see you.

03:15:10.500 Be well.

03:15:11.340 Be well.

03:15:12.200 There you go.

03:15:12.660 Stephen Crowder.

03:15:13.160 By the way, Tom Tillis is running a little ahead right now of President Trump's vote total

03:15:16.860 in North Carolina.

03:15:17.740 We haven't paid any attention to the Senate races thus far.

03:15:20.140 Gardner's already out.

03:15:20.940 They already called Gardner as done.

03:15:22.600 But that was pretty much a foregone conclusion.

03:15:24.420 Right.

03:15:24.520 The ones to keep an eye on tonight are Tom Tillis in North Carolina.

03:15:27.020 You want to keep an eye on Joni Ernst in Iowa.

03:15:28.540 You want to keep an eye on Susan Collins in Maine.

03:15:31.260 And I think that our friends in the war room are ready to give us an update on what's actually

03:15:35.740 happening from a data point of view.

03:15:37.040 So let's go to Alicia Krause. 0.99

03:15:42.860 Hey, guys.

03:15:43.500 We actually have a lot of updates right now.

03:15:45.860 And then we're going to toss it to Cassie in just a moment for some social media checkmark 0.96

03:15:49.040 updates as well.

03:15:50.180 Cabot Phillips, what is happening?

03:15:52.040 So we let you know earlier, Florida is still looking very good for President Trump.

03:15:55.320 Again, going to take a near miracle for Biden to pull that off.

03:15:58.000 Now moving a little bit more north, Georgia also looking very good for President Trump.

03:16:02.240 Thirty five percent reporting right now.

03:16:04.180 The president is up about 15 points and we're still waiting for more votes to come in from

03:16:08.460 Fulton County, where Biden is about 80 percent.

03:16:10.560 That's where Atlanta is.

03:16:11.760 So now the real question becomes how much ground is he able to make up in Fulton County,

03:16:15.280 Gwinnett County, Marietta County, all Biden strongholds.

03:16:18.500 He's going to have to just hope that voter turnout is high enough to keep him there.

03:16:22.460 The New York Times, though, is projecting, if you believe their projections, 81 percent

03:16:25.500 chance of a victory for Trump in Georgia, moving up a little bit more to North Carolina.

03:16:30.520 The New York Times projection there, 86 percent chance of a Trump victory in North Carolina,

03:16:35.960 78 percent of the vote reporting.

03:16:37.820 The president does trail by about three percentage points at the moment.

03:16:40.640 But a big part of that is what the expected votes are going to be coming a little bit later.

03:16:45.260 Florida, again, looking like an almost sure Trump victory.

03:16:47.900 In Virginia, interesting situation playing out.

03:16:49.860 Right when the polls closed, Fox News was the only polling service or only news outlet

03:16:54.800 that called Virginia right away.

03:16:56.680 However, a lot of other outlets are holding off on calling it because right now, President

03:17:00.460 Trump is up 20 points with 40 percent reporting.

03:17:03.100 And some of those counties, the reason people are holding off on holding some of the northern

03:17:06.500 counties, Arlington County, Prince George County, other ones like that, Prince William

03:17:10.180 County, other counties like that, traditionally places you'd expect Biden to perform.

03:17:13.560 Wasn't a huge voter turnout in some of those counties.

03:17:15.940 So we're waiting for a lot of absentee ballots to come in.

03:17:18.700 Those might be a little bit later.

03:17:19.860 To bring it more Democrat votes in.

03:17:21.680 That's what the expectation is.

03:17:23.140 But Virginia, much closer than people were expecting.

03:17:25.460 Finally, the Republicans have lost their first seat in the Senate.

03:17:28.180 Cory Gardner in Colorado wasn't polling well and, as expected, has lost.

03:17:32.360 The Republicans down now to 53 in the Senate.

03:17:35.540 Okie dokie.

03:17:36.100 Thank you for that update.

03:17:37.020 We'll take Alabama. 0.81

03:17:39.960 We'll get Alabama.

03:17:41.100 Yeah.

03:17:41.240 Yeah.

03:17:41.440 To answer that question for you, Dennis, yes.

03:17:44.820 A lot of outlets have already called Alabama, as you can see on the map over there.

03:17:48.560 We're going to continue updating the map.

03:17:50.300 And to update you here now about what's happening on social media, we have our very own Cassie

03:17:54.320 Dillon.

03:17:55.280 So right now on social media, all the talk is Florida.

03:17:58.420 The left is very mad at Florida right now, to where the Daily Show has even put out a

03:18:03.000 little video of blowing up Florida.

03:18:05.160 So that's quite interesting.

03:18:06.400 And then we also have Nicole Hannah-Jones of the 1619 Project announcing her next writing

03:18:12.780 gig.

03:18:13.060 She wants to write a piece about how the Latino community is contrived of ethnic category 1.00

03:18:18.160 that artificially lumps white Cubans with black Puerto Ricans and indigenous Guatemalans, 0.59

03:18:22.220 yada, yada.

03:18:22.920 So I guess the Cuban vote is now canceled out of the Hispanic community, according to Nicole

03:18:28.180 Hannah-Jones.

03:18:29.940 There's going to be actual purity tests.

03:18:32.700 But our lovely White House press secretary said that she's excited for the surge for President

03:18:38.500 Trump in the Latino community, and it's happening right now, primarily in Miami.

03:18:41.960 And just one more quick update, it looks like the violence that was happening outside of

03:18:47.020 Washington, D.C., outside of the White House, has now kind of slowed down, and now it's a

03:18:51.000 dance party.

03:18:52.900 And so we'll see how long the dance party continues when we have more results coming in.

03:18:58.160 Cassie, thank you for that.

03:18:59.060 Although I have to say that I've never agreed with the left that words could be violence.

03:19:03.840 Violence is just violence, like violence is when someone's fist connects with your chin.

03:19:07.080 Now that I've seen that line dancing, I'm willing to reassess all of my previous positions

03:19:11.700 on what constitutes violence and what does not.

03:19:13.920 Here's something interesting.

03:19:15.160 Henry Olson, who's one of the best poll watchers I know, a very honest, you know, he's a conservative,

03:19:20.280 but very honest, never lets his bias get in the way.

03:19:23.500 He forecast a Biden victory last year.

03:19:27.720 Last election, he was the closest to forecasting a Trump victory.

03:19:32.120 And he said, Biden's going to be a very comfortable win in the Washington Post.

03:19:35.820 He's dialing that back.

03:19:37.140 Is he?

03:19:37.480 He's starting to, he says, he says, I don't like to eat crow, but the more I look at the

03:19:41.320 data, the more I think I was too optimistic for Biden.

03:19:43.580 He's not calling for Trump, but he is dialing it back.

03:19:46.100 And that's that to me is very encouraging because he's just a smart, smart guy.

03:19:50.060 There's an interesting sidebar that I'd like to bounce off you.

03:19:54.820 I don't, this is not my own original thought, but I heard this many years ago and it turned

03:20:01.240 out, I think in the Carter race, that in every presidential race, the happier candidate

03:20:12.660 won.

03:20:14.860 And it's a, it's a very interesting observation.

03:20:19.060 If the, if president Trump loses, that would be a, a, an exception to a pretty ironclad

03:20:27.240 rule.

03:20:27.740 Could that possibly be true?

03:20:29.040 Or do we grant that Mitt Romney was less happy than Barack Obama?

03:20:33.860 Have you ever met Mitt Romney?

03:20:36.820 Mitt Romney, I campaigned for Mitt Romney.

03:20:41.500 Uh, there's a certain, everybody acknowledges it.

03:20:44.540 I mean, there's a certain, uh, woodenness.

03:20:46.640 That's fair.

03:20:47.340 To, to his personality.

03:20:48.200 He may be more, he may be more truly happy.

03:20:50.900 Oh, I don't, that's, nobody knows who's truly happy.

03:20:53.720 All right.

03:20:53.900 So the, your psychiatrist may know, your spouse may know.

03:20:57.360 Oh, you know, Bill Clinton is truly happy.

03:20:59.420 Oh, I don't think Bill Clinton is truly happy.

03:21:03.520 I'm taking back my happiness.

03:21:07.360 I'm going to write a book on how I can.

03:21:08.460 Certainly the more charismatic person has won.

03:21:11.340 And in that case, well, Trump should win 50.

03:21:13.080 Well, yes, that's true.

03:21:14.440 That's that.

03:21:14.960 That's it.

03:21:15.280 Well, it started because Reagan was the antithesis of Carter.

03:21:19.420 That's when the observation was made.

03:21:21.560 Ah.

03:21:22.420 And, uh, and, and that was very true.

03:21:24.740 Yeah.

03:21:25.080 You know, you know, while, while was his, uh, the national malaise, his talk about, anyway,

03:21:29.320 has Jimmy, can you imagine if this is just a thought?

03:21:32.280 Well, I can't imagine Jimmy Carter laughing.

03:21:36.420 I mean, when you think about it, isn't that an interesting thing?

03:21:39.340 Yeah.

03:21:40.140 He was, he, he was a, he was a grim guy to begin with.

03:21:43.000 But after he lost that election, he became one of the most bitter characters.

03:21:46.460 That's right.

03:21:47.240 Exactly.

03:21:47.920 It's exactly right.

03:21:48.920 So it, it, the other thing is, is another fascinating question, a sidebar again.

03:21:54.240 I have never seen the passion for a president as exists for Donald Trump.

03:22:02.780 And that includes Ronald Reagan.

03:22:04.080 That I agree.

03:22:04.720 And I love Ronald Reagan, but I never heard massive chanting.

03:22:09.520 We love you.

03:22:10.460 Yeah.

03:22:10.580 This, I have the chills as I tell this to you, of people in, in cold weather, knowing COVID's

03:22:17.460 around, standing together in the tens of thousands.

03:22:22.180 My, my, my, I have two sons.

03:22:24.160 One of them is, you mentioned in Florida, one is in Pennsylvania.

03:22:26.860 I purposely did that.

03:22:28.320 This is my kind of view from America.

03:22:30.160 I have one son in one swing state and another in another swing state.

03:22:34.480 At, you know that there were 50,000 people?

03:22:37.960 Unbelievable.

03:22:38.700 In, in, in, uh, what was it?

03:22:40.000 I forgot Butler County.

03:22:41.360 I think it was.

03:22:42.180 And my son lives in Redding, Pennsylvania.

03:22:45.440 Redding, Pennsylvania had 15,000 or 20,000 people.

03:22:49.580 Oh, you, this is, this is, I'm going to send this to you.

03:22:51.920 You got to put it up.

03:22:52.600 He sent me a picture of an Amish caravan.

03:22:56.840 Did you see it?

03:22:58.560 Yes.

03:22:59.160 That may be my favorite picture of American history.

03:23:02.060 An Amish Trump caravan of horses and buggies. 0.59

03:23:05.880 Trump, who has, I will say, a somewhat casual relationship with the truth, has said some

03:23:09.880 very actually profound things in his time.

03:23:12.460 Really?

03:23:13.100 I'm being serious.

03:23:14.320 And I think maybe the, the truest thing he ever said is they don't hate you because they

03:23:18.980 hate me.

03:23:19.360 They hate me because they hate you. 0.95

03:23:20.420 Yeah.

03:23:20.760 That's right.

03:23:21.100 And that is one hundred percent true.

03:23:23.680 That is the, that, that, that, that's why there's the passion for Trump.

03:23:26.220 It really isn't even just because, you know, Trump is Trump and he's, and he's, and he

03:23:29.780 is goofy and he does funny things and he's a good standup comedian and he responds to

03:23:33.200 the crowd and all that.

03:23:33.760 That's right.

03:23:34.100 It's because you represent us.

03:23:36.260 Correct.

03:23:36.460 The outpouring of, of absolute scorn, hatred, people despise Trump and we're not falling

03:23:42.280 for the trick.

03:23:42.900 I think most Republicans, aside from, you know, a few of the people we were talking about

03:23:45.640 earlier, have not fallen for the trick of believing that the Democrats are only doing

03:23:49.080 that because they have disdain for his character personally.

03:23:51.420 Right.

03:23:51.700 We recognize that the minute that Donald Trump is off the national stage, they will turn

03:23:55.120 to whoever the next Republican is and that person will become the repository of all

03:23:58.940 evil, which is probably why Donald Trump was nominated in the first place in 2016 because

03:24:02.480 they did this to Mitt Romney in 2012 and we all went, hold up a second, you're doing

03:24:06.060 this to Mitt Romney, the most milquetoast human being ever to walk the planet.

03:24:09.600 And so we went, okay, we need somebody who's at least going to punch these people directly 0.99

03:24:12.000 in the face. 0.99

03:24:12.400 That's right.

03:24:12.740 And that's what Trump was about.

03:24:14.000 And then they have gone so insane over Donald Trump that I think everybody who is even

03:24:18.820 remotely conservative looked at this and they went, wait a second, this isn't about

03:24:21.500 Trump at all.

03:24:22.380 Like really deep in the cockles of your heart, it's not that you hate Trump and so you're

03:24:26.160 upset at me for voting for Trump.

03:24:28.260 It's that you hate me.

03:24:29.700 And so you hate Trump because Trump is just a stand in for me.

03:24:32.180 The evidence of this is that Donald Trump's character is probably the most widely known

03:24:38.220 character of any character in modern media, right?

03:24:41.820 Donald Trump has been famous 100% of the days of my life.

03:24:45.820 And not just like a little famous, like rap stars rap about him famous.

03:24:49.780 Like he makes, he represented New York City.

03:24:52.380 Like you could put Donald Trump in a movie and they did frequently.

03:24:55.220 He represented the idea of New York.

03:24:57.640 They, he had affairs.

03:25:00.320 He, we all knew there were strippers. 0.77

03:25:02.320 All of that was known and we loved him.

03:25:05.040 We celebrate him, celebrated him.

03:25:06.980 The left elevated him.

03:25:08.020 They loved him right up until he decided to represent us.

03:25:11.620 That's only in that moment that they decided that there was a problem.

03:25:14.200 To me, to me, one of the most telling statistics in, in the last 10 years is the fact that so many

03:25:21.160 people were dying of opiate poisoning in the Midwest, in the middle of the country, that

03:25:26.160 our life expectancy, the life expectancy of Americans was dropping solely because of deaths

03:25:30.540 by suicide, by suicidal behaviors.

03:25:32.700 And nobody knew it until two Harvard researchers stumbled on it and were totally surprised.

03:25:38.840 That means that a vast number of our countrymen were dying and nobody knew because they were

03:25:45.240 in the flyover country.

03:25:46.560 But, and we, and even we on the right kept saying, yes, but your iPhones are cheaper because

03:25:50.460 we're sending them out to China.

03:25:52.900 We're making them in China.

03:25:54.180 And, and Donald Trump got it.

03:25:55.680 He did.

03:25:56.080 He saw that.

03:25:56.700 He did another thing too.

03:25:57.620 People ask all the time.

03:25:59.520 This is the Brett Stephens theory.

03:26:01.700 Who's the most disappointing to me because he, he is a courageous, good man.

03:26:05.560 He's a good man.

03:26:06.140 Yeah.

03:26:06.260 I want to say that for the record.

03:26:07.700 And, and so he, he, he asks, what is, what has Trump done to conservatism and the Republican

03:26:14.960 party?

03:26:15.640 So this was asked to me for my local station in LA, AM 870.

03:26:22.040 And we had an event, Sebastian Gorka and Charlie Kirk and, and Larry Elder and I.

03:26:30.920 So we were on stage and the moderator said, so, okay, going to throw out a question.

03:26:35.820 You've got to answer with one sentence, which is tough.

03:26:38.860 Yeah.

03:26:39.140 I was, we'll start with you, Dennis.

03:26:40.540 And I go, what, what has, uh, what, what effect has, uh, as Donald Trump had on conservatives

03:26:47.980 and it's like, I, I thank you, God.

03:26:51.240 He put these words in my brain. 0.99

03:26:53.040 He gave them testicles. 0.99

03:26:55.000 The place went crazy. 1.00

03:26:56.640 Yeah.

03:26:56.960 And I know why they went crazy.

03:26:58.700 Cause it's true.

03:27:00.340 So here I have been saying for 20 years, we are in a civil war.

03:27:05.160 And only one side is fighting because of Donald Trump.

03:27:09.360 Both sides are fighting.

03:27:11.080 Yeah.

03:27:11.280 Yeah.

03:27:11.640 Yeah.

03:27:11.980 No, I think this idea that he made America manly again, it's not so far off.

03:27:16.660 That's right.

03:27:17.260 The idea that he walks around without a mask, he gets COVID, he shrugs it off.

03:27:21.160 That's right.

03:27:22.580 I actually don't disagree with this.

03:27:23.880 You know, we were talking earlier about how one of the problems that's happened in religion

03:27:27.180 over the last 40 years in America is that we've redefined the love of God as sentimentality.

03:27:32.000 Yeah.

03:27:32.560 We've also redefined sin to where I genuinely believe that now the almost the definition

03:27:39.220 of sin is masculinity.

03:27:40.920 I think the church has basically said all things masculine are evil.

03:27:45.780 And the worst, the worst failures of the feminine are righteousness. 1.00

03:27:52.280 So it's almost like the, the worst, the, you know, of course there are negative aspects

03:27:57.120 of masculinity that do touch sin.

03:28:00.160 The difference is they're now saying that even the positive attributes of masculinity

03:28:03.280 or sin and the most negative attributes of the feminine are righteousness. 1.00

03:28:08.220 And so to be able to say to conservatives, to be able to say to men that there is masculine

03:28:14.680 virtue, again, we can talk about how Donald Trump isn't the most virtuous person.

03:28:19.600 What we're really upset about is that he represents a different set of virtues and is

03:28:24.980 completely lacking in another set, right?

03:28:26.880 He doesn't have the kinds of virtues that we've come to admire, but he has in high measure

03:28:33.040 some of the forgotten virtues.

03:28:35.160 And that's part of why we love him.

03:28:36.180 That's a great way of putting it.

03:28:37.480 The people who, forgive me for the language, I don't know what goes on on the Daily Wire or

03:28:42.320 the thing which, but it's not a bad one. 0.94

03:28:44.540 But the people who crap on his character.

03:28:47.760 Oh, no, that's, that's way below our standards.

03:28:49.040 Yeah. 0.99

03:28:50.420 I've already, I've already said bullshit three times. 0.99

03:28:52.260 Okay. 0.99

03:28:52.500 He's degraded us entirely.

03:28:53.580 Okay, great.

03:28:56.200 Where were they with Ted Kennedy?

03:28:58.320 Of course.

03:28:58.840 Right.

03:28:59.060 Yeah.

03:28:59.980 Forget John Kennedy.

03:29:01.360 Ted Kennedy, the lion of the Senate.

03:29:03.980 I will take, I will take, yes, waitress sandwiches with, with Dodd, right?

03:29:08.440 That's right.

03:29:08.900 Well, by the way, it was advising Joe Biden on his VP pick.

03:29:12.320 Chris Dodd was on that advisory committee.

03:29:13.680 That's right.

03:29:14.320 And, and Ted Kennedy and Joe Biden really led all of the great character assassinations

03:29:19.600 in the judiciary right over the last 40 years.

03:29:22.700 The thing that people love about Trump is that Trump refuses to accept the premise of

03:29:26.260 what the left is saying to him.

03:29:27.880 And sometimes that means he rejects things that are actually true.

03:29:30.380 And that's irritating to people like me because, I mean, frankly, I don't think that

03:29:34.160 you should reject things that are true, but very often Trump will just refuse the premise

03:29:38.680 of a question in a way where you're like, no other Republican would actually have

03:29:41.960 the stones to do that.

03:29:42.860 So, for example, there was a lot that came out from that Bob Woodward book. 0.99

03:29:46.160 Most of it was stupid garbage, but there was one exchange that the left really played 0.99

03:29:49.360 up where Bob Woodward said to him something like, you know, you're, America has a real 1.00

03:29:54.220 policing problem with racism and America is kind of racist.

03:29:57.820 And Trump said, oh, so you bought into that?

03:30:00.280 And, and I heard that and I was like, okay, like you gotta love that.

03:30:04.340 You do.

03:30:04.920 I mean, it's, it's hard not to love that a little bit as a conservative because the fact

03:30:07.540 is that every other Republican pays lip service to myths and Trump does not pay lip service

03:30:12.400 to myths.

03:30:12.700 And so there are a lot of times in which that is so deeply necessary.

03:30:17.140 And you see his greatest successes are built on that, right?

03:30:18.940 His great success in the Middle East is built on refusing to buy into a prevailing myth and

03:30:22.760 just saying that that myth is just a myth, right?

03:30:25.180 And so like, so we all focus in, in the media and people who are Trump skeptical.

03:30:30.500 I think we focus on the times when he calls something a myth that isn't a myth, right?

03:30:34.320 Where he does like the crowd size thing.

03:30:35.520 It's the biggest crowd size ever, but his, his refusal to accept the premise of nearly

03:30:39.460 any question that is asked of him adversarially means that many of the questions that are

03:30:43.260 asked to normal Republicans adversarially and they accept the premise, he refuses to accept

03:30:47.180 the premise.

03:30:47.860 So it's a package. 1.00

03:30:48.620 Back to Jesus the jerk. 1.00

03:30:50.300 One of the things I love is that he won't, he won't grant disingenuous questions ever in 1.00

03:30:54.860 And that is, again, that is a masculine trait.

03:30:58.040 You know, I'm reading Charles Murray's book on the differences between men and women and

03:31:01.460 they, women are, as I argued many years, are more amiable.

03:31:05.500 They're, they get along.

03:31:06.440 What about is forcing NATO?

03:31:08.680 Oh, oh, he's, he's dissing our allies.

03:31:12.400 Our allies have depended completely upon American money and, and know how to guard them while they

03:31:19.260 get rich.

03:31:20.040 Right.

03:31:20.580 So he says, excuse me, you made a deal that you spent X amount of your GD.

03:31:24.860 P on, on armaments, but you're not doing it.

03:31:27.880 Why is that wrong?

03:31:29.060 Why should an American leader not say that to our allies in NATO?

03:31:32.980 Right.

03:31:33.500 Cause it isn't nice.

03:31:34.780 Cause it is.

03:31:35.360 That's it.

03:31:35.900 That's it.

03:31:36.480 And you know, that's it.

03:31:37.860 They used to, they used to put this thing out about Trump that he doesn't, he doesn't

03:31:41.600 pay his bills.

03:31:42.440 And I would talk to people, you know, just ordinary working guys.

03:31:45.580 And they would say to me, he doesn't pay his bills because people don't do the work

03:31:48.440 he pays them to do.

03:31:49.580 You know, they, they know what, what it is.

03:31:51.160 I will say I'm, I'm very friendly with a guy who's been one of Donald Trump's

03:31:54.840 real estate attorneys for, you know, his entire career, very high end hotel, a hotel

03:32:00.460 real estate attorney. 0.93

03:32:02.060 And he says that Donald Trump is a bit of a Scrooge.

03:32:05.380 He says that he, he, in the Trump organization, he would have to approve $500 expenses at hotels,

03:32:12.220 which if you think about the size of his organization, it's remarkable personally, but

03:32:16.220 that's right.

03:32:16.620 He said, but I will tell you every time he ever brought me to New York, which is dozens

03:32:21.020 of times over the years, flew first class car, pick me up, car, pick me up at the, brought

03:32:25.320 me, stayed in the best, best dinners.

03:32:26.960 He take, you know, he, he would lavish upon us in that way, but he didn't want to be frivolous

03:32:33.480 with his money on the other side and maybe held on a bit too tight in that regard.

03:32:37.180 And listen, I never want to be guilty of covering over what we know our character failings of

03:32:44.160 president.

03:32:45.040 I think that it, that's not the criterion of measuring who should be president.

03:32:49.780 I wrote a great 20 years ago.

03:32:52.060 Agreed.

03:32:52.500 I wrote a piece, adultery and politicians.

03:32:55.120 God wouldn't have chosen, chosen King David.

03:32:57.880 He not only committed adultery and had a child with that woman, but had the husband basically

03:33:03.100 killed.

03:33:03.900 That's right.

03:33:04.400 I mean, that's pretty serious.

03:33:06.000 Or it's all the way back to Abraham.

03:33:07.400 He is the, he is the ancestor of our Messiah, all collective.

03:33:10.760 A man, a man after God's own heart, a man after God's own heart is what the Bible says

03:33:16.080 of David.

03:33:16.820 I actually said this on Twitter today that the, you know, people are saying, some people

03:33:21.620 are saying the Christian church is failing because it supports now Donald Trump.

03:33:24.900 When in 20, uh, in 1997 or 1998, they went all in to say the character is destiny and condemn

03:33:31.880 Bill Clinton.

03:33:32.760 But the problem with that argument is it actually assumes that the evangelical church in 1998 was

03:33:38.800 operating a good faith, but the church in 1998 was being political.

03:33:44.360 It was trying to get its agenda through.

03:33:46.060 That's right.

03:33:47.160 Bill Clinton deserved to be perjured because he broke the law.

03:33:49.600 I'm sorry, deserved to be impeached because he broke the law and committed perjury.

03:33:52.260 That was a hard sell to the American people.

03:33:54.520 And so the evangelical church pursuing its policy preferences constructed a theological argument,

03:34:00.160 which is false, which is that God judges a nation based on the moral character of its

03:34:05.500 leader exclusively, which is, you cannot find a single biblical, uh, you can't find an American

03:34:11.560 president.

03:34:12.120 You can't find a King of England.

03:34:13.260 God seems to go out of his way.

03:34:14.800 Actually, who, who is, who did God choose to let the Israelites into Canaan?

03:34:19.220 He could have picked a Canaanite accountant, a Canaanite priest, a Canaanite saint. 0.96

03:34:24.860 He picked a Canaanite prostitute. 0.99

03:34:27.260 That's right. 0.99

03:34:27.800 There's a message there.

03:34:28.840 There's got to be a part of the part of the message is that God is God and that the

03:34:34.200 virtue, the virtue of a person does not make them more than what God is.

03:34:38.500 God uses the weak.

03:34:39.320 He uses the broken.

03:34:40.380 He uses the sinful because that first of all, because that's the only people he can use,

03:34:44.160 because that's all of us on some level.

03:34:45.440 But also as a way of saying, I am the one who's delivering you into Canaan.

03:34:50.560 I'm the one who's giving you the land of promise.

03:34:52.420 So long as recognizing the complexity of human beings doesn't mean dismissing the sin of

03:34:57.840 human beings.

03:34:58.520 Absolutely.

03:34:59.300 And I'm not saying that the character of a leader cannot affect the destiny of a country.

03:35:04.980 But more importantly, a very complex question.

03:35:08.160 Schindler saved how many Jews? 0.68

03:35:10.040 A thousand Jews? 0.59

03:35:11.100 The man did an unbelievable act. 0.99

03:35:13.380 The guy was a serial adulterer.

03:35:15.180 Yep.

03:35:15.780 Yep.

03:35:16.060 And wait till what comes out.

03:35:17.380 This is not revelatory.

03:35:18.500 One of the major biographers of Martin Luther King has already come out with it.

03:35:23.480 Of course.

03:35:23.800 And it's going to come out when the papers come out.

03:35:25.380 He was a serial adulterer.

03:35:27.040 Yeah.

03:35:27.420 What are they going to say then?

03:35:28.580 Great.

03:35:28.800 Credible accusations.

03:35:29.540 Yes, that's right.

03:35:30.500 Yep.

03:35:31.240 You know, it's really interesting to me just listening.

03:35:33.460 There's a lot of IQ points in this room and then me and Jeremy.

03:35:36.540 And all of us are sitting here having serious conversations about scripture and God.

03:35:43.280 And every one of us, I happen to know for a fact, measures ourselves according to how

03:35:48.060 we are moving toward God or away from God or what we're doing in God's eyes.

03:35:52.820 That idea is completely ridiculed by our friends on the left, especially among the elites.

03:35:59.200 That's right.

03:35:59.520 You never see a serious conversation about that in the New York Times.

03:36:02.140 You never see a serious conversation.

03:36:03.100 Oh, they mocked Amy Coney Barrett for saying it.

03:36:04.640 Amy Coney Barrett said that she was trying to live a godly life and then serve God in

03:36:08.540 her job.

03:36:09.240 And they said, oh, that means you're a theocrat.

03:36:10.540 Exactly. 1.00

03:36:11.020 They're idiots. 1.00

03:36:11.700 And I don't know what I don't know what Donald Trump believes in his heart of hearts, but 1.00

03:36:14.720 at least he's why I think he has become religious, you know, course of the four years.

03:36:18.740 I believe maybe just to piss off the left.

03:36:20.960 Honestly, like they were like, you're such an atheist godly.

03:36:23.240 He's like, you know what?

03:36:23.840 I love Jesus.

03:36:24.720 You know, that's right.

03:36:26.000 No, no.

03:36:26.860 I have a column.

03:36:28.820 Please, folks, on the internet, my column from 10 years ago, how the left keeps me religious.

03:36:34.880 Somebody somebody told me that that God made Donald Trump president to save his soul.

03:36:40.300 It's actually an interesting disease.

03:36:42.600 I agree.

03:36:42.960 By the way, worth noting, 538 says that right now, the way that North Carolina, Georgia,

03:36:47.280 Florida are trending, the way that the Hispanic vote is trending in Texas and now maybe in

03:36:50.700 Arizona, they're saying it's now a 50-50 toss-up election.

03:36:55.260 Oh, no kidding, really?

03:36:56.660 Yeah.

03:36:57.140 I mean, which means that it's all going to be horrific for a week, right?

03:37:00.780 Because if it's a 50-50 toss-up election, it comes down to Pennsylvania and you have

03:37:04.460 the mess of Pennsylvania, it's all going to be lawyers.

03:37:06.960 It's going to be lawyers in the Supreme Court in a mess.

03:37:09.020 So anytime there's a mess, the person whose point of view I want is Megyn Kelly.

03:37:13.920 And that is because there are a lot of IQ points in this room and ain't none of us as

03:37:17.860 smart as our friend.

03:37:18.920 No, even all together.

03:37:19.640 Yeah, all together.

03:37:20.420 None of us as smart as our friend Megyn Kelly, who is back with us again right now.

03:37:24.120 Megyn, thanks for making some more time for us tonight.

03:37:26.480 What are you seeing out there?

03:37:27.780 My pleasure.

03:37:28.440 I'm following the 538 so-far debacle, as Ben just mentioned.

03:37:34.020 It is crazy how much faith people put in these pollsters.

03:37:37.260 And look, I don't know how this night is going to shake out, but it certainly appears that

03:37:40.320 Nate Silver, the guy of the pollsters on the left, completely blew Florida.

03:37:44.360 And Trafalgar seems to have gotten it right.

03:37:46.720 That's the one polling outlet that has been predicting Trump is going to win this race tonight.

03:37:51.060 What I'm seeing so far in Ohio does not bode well for Trump, but it's very early and the

03:37:55.500 vote's not yet counted.

03:37:56.500 So we'll see, right?

03:37:57.400 It tends to go blue at first, and then it turns more red.

03:38:01.020 But their vote counts a little higher in Ohio, so I would be watching that one, because obviously

03:38:04.460 Trump's not going to win this race if he does not win Ohio.

03:38:07.540 The thing with the Hispanics is interesting. 1.00

03:38:10.200 Already, you've got people counting them as non-Hispanics.

03:38:14.180 They're basically white Hispanics, so they don't count them.

03:38:17.320 Republicans can't claim them as their voters.

03:38:19.760 But hey, they voted, and they voted for Donald Trump, and it didn't just happen in Florida.

03:38:23.600 They're voting for him in other states right now, to the surprise of a lot.

03:38:26.560 And I think there's a question.

03:38:29.180 There's somebody in Florida tweeting about this, that a top Democrat had complained to

03:38:33.020 him privately that it was the BLM support by Democrats there that turned off a lot of

03:38:37.480 Hispanics because they don't want to defund the police, right? 0.99

03:38:41.460 That they understand that that caused a lot of danger.

03:38:44.180 It caused a lot of danger in minority communities and elsewhere.

03:38:46.320 And, you know, this is sort of a liberal dream that they actually tried in Minneapolis,

03:38:51.140 Minnesota, only to totally reverse it.

03:38:53.200 That was the George Floyd city.

03:38:55.520 Right.

03:38:55.920 So they were defunding them.

03:38:57.140 It was a unanimous vote.

03:38:58.300 And then they reversed it.

03:38:59.480 And I think, you know, what we're seeing, we'll find out, because they'll ask, you know,

03:39:03.340 what the reasons were in the exit polls.

03:39:04.700 We'll show it.

03:39:05.240 I don't know if they pulled from BLM.

03:39:06.400 But if that actually pushed Hispanics to the, you know, polls for Trump, it's going to be 0.91

03:39:11.340 a major story.

03:39:13.020 And the problem, please, just any of you know, I don't know the answer.

03:39:17.320 This is an open question.

03:39:18.680 Maybe Megan knows.

03:39:20.940 Why is Ohio close?

03:39:22.980 Who is voting?

03:39:24.200 And I mean this sincerely, other than a leftist, who in Ohio is voting for Biden?

03:39:29.900 I think it's college educated whites.

03:39:31.900 I think that the big story of this.

03:39:33.760 There were that many in Ohio?

03:39:34.500 I think the big story of this election may be that Trump actually gets the inroads in

03:39:40.220 minority populations that we've always wanted to see a Republican get.

03:39:44.620 But he had losses among white voters that still managed to cost him the election, which

03:39:49.640 will be an unbelievable story.

03:39:51.320 Will not validate the pollsters who've been so wrong so far tonight, but they'll be able

03:39:55.580 to live to fight another day because if Biden wins, it actually doesn't matter if they blew

03:39:59.500 Florida by almost six points, right?

03:40:01.120 They just get credit because they were, they made the ultimate top.

03:40:03.880 I think that's a major reason people don't tend to speak about this when they speak about

03:40:09.160 free college tuition.

03:40:11.740 They really, excuse me, they really want everyone to go to college.

03:40:18.020 College produces leftists.

03:40:20.420 Is that, is that an unfair state?

03:40:22.480 No, it's not.

03:40:24.280 And listen, I don't think colleges, I don't think the university, I don't think the academy

03:40:27.820 can be reformed.

03:40:28.720 I don't think that the media can be reformed.

03:40:31.780 The legacy media can be reformed.

03:40:33.340 I don't think Hollywood can be reformed.

03:40:35.840 It's time for us to, you can't redeem them.

03:40:38.560 That's right.

03:40:39.040 You can't reform them.

03:40:40.580 You have to replace them.

03:40:42.040 And that's what PragerU is doing, where the academy is concerned.

03:40:44.520 It's what Daily Wire and Megan with her podcast are doing, where the media is concerned.

03:40:48.820 We have to figure out how to do it with entertainment.

03:40:50.320 But they, they will try to shut us down.

03:40:52.600 If, if they own everything except the Supreme Court, then they, they will do whatever they

03:40:57.960 can to shut us down.

03:41:00.340 The story of this election so far, and obviously it's still early in the night, relatively speaking,

03:41:04.540 the story of the election is the shift in the Latino vote.

03:41:06.400 I mean, it's just, it's stunning.

03:41:07.800 And, and what it really shows is that when it comes to the woke coalition, the strongest,

03:41:12.000 and we know this by polling data, the strongest members of the woke coalition are the white 1.00

03:41:15.580 idiots. 1.00

03:41:16.260 They are. 1.00

03:41:16.940 They're the strongest members of the woke coalition. 0.99

03:41:18.200 Black Americans don't care about this woke crap, which is why they voted in favor of 1.00

03:41:22.000 Joe Biden over Bernie Sanders in the democratic primaries. 1.00

03:41:24.500 Latino Americans are sick to death of this crap. 1.00

03:41:27.120 The best tweet I've seen tonight is Republicans are winning the Latino vote and Democrats are 1.00

03:41:30.920 winning the Latinx vote because nobody calls themselves Latinx.

03:41:34.740 Yes, of course.

03:41:35.380 Which is hysterical. 0.93

03:41:36.500 And it's, it's all these self-flattering and self-flagellating white people who think they're

03:41:41.040 going to lead minorities to the promised land by, by, by treating them as, as not fully 0.99

03:41:47.960 capable of making human adult decisions.

03:41:50.320 It's, it's absolutely wild.

03:41:51.940 Megan, when you look at this right now, I mean, the media coverage so far, it seems

03:41:55.680 like people are really holding back at this point.

03:41:58.020 But we have seen some early indicators of the insanity from the Colhanna Jones and a couple 1.00

03:42:02.580 other reporters now reporting that Latino people are not Latino anymore.

03:42:05.260 What do you make of it?

03:42:06.460 Yeah.

03:42:06.620 Of course, you know, it's like a knee jerk reaction.

03:42:09.060 The fact that somebody like Nicole Hanna Jones gets the credibility she does, you know,

03:42:13.020 that her Pulitzer Prize has not been revoked for her joke of a 1619 project, which the

03:42:17.860 New York Times is slowly taking off with an eraser without announcing all the mistakes

03:42:22.400 that were in there.

03:42:23.060 And mistakes is being charitable.

03:42:24.520 Intentional lies might be another way to put it.

03:42:26.900 And then you've got Ibra Max Kendi, who was tweeting out when Amy Coney Barrett was nominated.

03:42:30.760 Like, I'm not talking about her.

03:42:32.520 I'm just saying historically, when white people adopt black babies, instead of colonize and 0.82

03:42:38.020 exploit them, it's like, definitely not tying in, you know, directly to her.

03:42:42.220 Only it was two minutes after she was announced.

03:42:44.020 And these people are around and get paid thousands and thousands of dollars to educate white people

03:42:49.280 in various corporations and so on on how they are racist.

03:42:52.660 I mean, it's like, it's insane, right? 0.61

03:42:55.140 And so I do think, though, that the white suburban women have tended to be a problem for Trump. 0.86

03:43:01.580 And I think they, a lot of them, have bought into the woke messaging.

03:43:05.800 You know, they've been guilted so much by their neighbors that they're bigots and they're

03:43:08.300 awful if they don't, that they're signing up.

03:43:11.020 They want to be liked.

03:43:12.120 That's a good point.

03:43:12.960 That's right, Megan.

03:43:14.380 By the way, you mentioned about revoking the Pulitzer Prize, Megan.

03:43:19.820 The New York Times has still held on to the Pulitzer Prize of 1934 for Walter Durante,

03:43:29.140 who denied that Ukrainians were being starved by Stalin.

03:43:33.780 Six million Ukrainians were starved by Stalin.

03:43:37.160 Read Anne Applebaum's book.

03:43:39.300 Did you see the movie that came out about this?

03:43:41.360 The Red Famine.

03:43:41.680 They came out with a movie about this.

03:43:42.980 Is that right?

03:43:43.560 The Hall of the More?

03:43:44.420 Yeah.

03:43:45.040 It's really, really, really good.

03:43:46.520 I should bring up, by the way, first of all, I'd like to congratulate Megan on her 0.62

03:43:50.240 Ibram X.

03:43:51.100 Kendi imitation.

03:43:52.000 It was excellent.

03:43:53.080 But secondly, I just want to point out that Ohio is closing very, very fast.

03:43:57.900 It's getting very narrow.

03:43:59.380 Yeah, they're saying that Trump has the momentum there in the final counties, and it looks like

03:44:02.860 there's a decent shot that he pulls out Ohio.

03:44:05.980 So if he pulls out Ohio, then obviously the next look moves on to presumably Pennsylvania.

03:44:14.560 And that is, I mean, for the country, you've got to keep an eye on it.

03:44:18.240 Right.

03:44:18.460 North Carolina is still there, although the New York Times is saying that their needle

03:44:21.740 has him about an 80% shot to win North Carolina.

03:44:24.020 So if he wins North Carolina, it goes to Pennsylvania.

03:44:27.340 Given his performance in Ohio and North Carolina, that's very competitive.

03:44:30.900 You saw him close extremely fast in the polls in North Carolina.

03:44:33.420 In the polls, which have been systemically off, they're systemically off this year.

03:44:36.740 If what we're seeing happening is happening.

03:44:39.360 And the Amish vote in Michigan.

03:44:41.500 Those horses are moving.

03:44:44.640 There's snow.

03:44:45.320 You know, they get it.

03:44:45.860 That caravan.

03:44:47.900 Thank you, Aaron.

03:44:50.360 Well, Megan, thank you again for.

03:44:51.880 In Pennsylvania, we may be sitting around for days and days waiting to see you.

03:44:54.620 Well, that's right.

03:44:55.320 When is it?

03:44:55.960 We may have you on an hour 78 of our nonstop coverage.

03:44:59.900 By the way, that is it for the country.

03:45:01.380 In some ways, that's nightmare scenario.

03:45:02.860 Honestly.

03:45:03.240 Yes, yes.

03:45:03.920 If it goes to litigation.

03:45:04.640 Let me understand.

03:45:05.500 You guys, I'm sure, know this better than I.

03:45:07.640 The judge's ruling in Pennsylvania is that if they will be allowed to open up ballots for how long after election day sent in and they do not have to have a postmark prior to the to the election day.

03:45:23.740 Is that correct?

03:45:24.380 Did I get that right?

03:45:25.360 No.

03:45:25.600 So there's there's controversy.

03:45:27.100 If it's smudged.

03:45:27.380 If it's smudged.

03:45:28.180 Right.

03:45:28.360 So the question is, right, if it's if it's smudged and if you see like a wide, you know, spate of 100,000 votes that are coming in all smudged post election, I have a feeling that's going to the Supreme Court.

03:45:37.400 The Supreme Court put it off.

03:45:38.400 They didn't say they wouldn't.

03:45:39.160 They didn't.

03:45:39.620 They wouldn't rule on it.

03:45:40.380 They said that we're not going to rule on it right now because John Roberts is a coward who won't rule preemptively on anything that means that would put the legitimacy of the court in question.

03:45:47.420 Of course, not for seeing the possibility that the legitimacy of the court will be put gravely into question five days from now.

03:45:52.960 He wants to be like he's just terrible.

03:45:54.880 The he wants to be like I will say this for John Roberts.

03:45:57.700 It may be slightly more than he wants to be like.

03:46:00.120 I think he legitimately believes that the left will destroy the court if they make certain moves against the left.

03:46:07.180 I think he thinks in day to day cases.

03:46:09.780 The State Department legitimately believe that if America moves the embassy to Jerusalem, the Arab world will blow up.

03:46:18.000 That's right.

03:46:18.560 That's good.

03:46:19.340 But, Jeremy, that is still not that is not the chief justice's job.

03:46:22.920 He really, I know, the chief justice is trying to keep himself like the PR agent of the Supreme Court.

03:46:29.140 And maybe it's one consideration that he has that the associate justices don't have.

03:46:33.440 But really, his main duty is to uphold the Constitution.

03:46:36.560 You know, my husband, Doug, said it's his theory of good-looking Supreme Court justices.

03:46:42.220 He doesn't believe we should have any more.

03:46:43.760 That's a funny theory.

03:46:46.620 That is an excellent, excellent theory.

03:46:48.680 And they go to the Georgetown cocktail parties, and they start to love being loved.

03:46:52.340 And before you know it, they go from over here to over here.

03:46:55.300 He's like, no more.

03:46:56.140 Only unattractive ones.

03:46:57.480 Yeah.

03:46:57.860 I can definitely get behind that because then I have a shot as long as you don't have to have gone to college, be a lawyer, be a judge, or really have any other qualifications.

03:47:05.420 But being homely.

03:47:06.320 I can make a good case for myself.

03:47:09.800 Listen, I agree with you that it's not the job of the chief justice.

03:47:12.480 One thing that I love about the court swinging with the addition of Amy Coney Barrett, as far to the right as it has, is that that's actually not a partisan swing. 0.63

03:47:22.480 Like, having originalists on the court is supposed to be what the court is.

03:47:25.740 It's supposed to be nine out of nine.

03:47:27.300 They should disagree about, like, the nuances of the law, not broad things like, do you have religious freedom?

03:47:33.440 Or broad things like, do you have freedom of speech?

03:47:36.120 That was never supposed to be what the court was about.

03:47:39.240 And so I know the left has redefined court packing to mean putting people on the court we don't like.

03:47:44.600 But we're actually the ones who are depoliticizing the court by putting originalists on there.

03:47:49.780 And the problem for George W. Bush with John Roberts is he put a partisan on the court.

03:47:55.700 He did not put an originalist on the court.

03:47:57.860 That should be a good cautionary tale to us all.

03:48:00.220 I don't think he knew that.

03:48:01.400 I mean, I covered the John Roberts confirmation hearings wall to wall for Fox News.

03:48:04.740 I went down to the National Archives and read everything that guy ever wrote while he was with the Reagan administration.

03:48:09.900 Of course, all of his judicial opinions.

03:48:11.920 And I will tell you, I did not see signs of this John Roberts.

03:48:15.000 I didn't see any signs of a potential suitor when I was researching Chief John Roberts.

03:48:19.580 He looked like he was born in his little crib with his little justice robe on, getting ready to become the Supreme Court Chief Justice one day.

03:48:26.520 He lived a life that was like, you know, sending him in there on like a fluffy cloud.

03:48:32.140 So in George W. Bush's defense, I don't think you could see it coming.

03:48:36.440 But I think you're right, because here's what Antonin Scalia used to say from the bench.

03:48:39.760 Because, you know, I practiced law for a long time, but I also covered the high court for three years sitting in that courtroom every day.

03:48:44.580 And Scalia used to say, you want to say that the founders who wrote this document, the Constitution, foresaw a constitutional right to privacy, to an abortion, to same-sex marriage even.

03:48:59.260 You go and convince the citizenry that that is how it should be.

03:49:04.120 You don't get nine unelected people in robes to reread it.

03:49:08.860 He's not saying it should never happen.

03:49:10.880 I'm against it.

03:49:11.680 He was saying, go convince the electorate that it's time for such a right to be recognized, and then we'll amend it appropriately.

03:49:19.120 Absolutely.

03:49:20.260 May I ask, Megan, I'd like to ask you a question.

03:49:22.820 Are you broadcasting, so to speak, from home now?

03:49:26.580 Yeah.

03:49:27.100 Okay, I just want to salute you.

03:49:28.940 It is such a joy to see books in a house.

03:49:33.120 I can't tell you.

03:49:34.800 I recommend, seriously, people, even if they don't read them, have at least one room in their home with bookshelves,

03:49:41.380 with books.

03:49:42.560 Yeah.

03:49:42.920 This is a major – kids need to see books.

03:49:47.140 They need to see them.

03:49:48.160 They need to touch them, feel them.

03:49:50.560 This is a home that says ideas are important, a home with books.

03:49:56.100 Well, thank you.

03:49:57.120 I wish I could say I've read them all, but I –

03:49:59.080 Oh, no, no, I said it's irrelevant.

03:50:01.060 My husband is a writer, and he took a lot of care in actually selecting which books he wanted up there,

03:50:07.760 the ones he's read and the ones he wants to read.

03:50:09.960 And kids are a little aspiring writers, too, so so far I'm so good.

03:50:13.220 And by the way, up until like 20 minutes ago, my nine-year-old daughter was here going through the New York Times update

03:50:19.420 on which state is red and which state is blue.

03:50:21.360 And I have my own little bell hammer here working the billboard.

03:50:23.760 She was like, oh, that's not great stuff.

03:50:26.640 Something in these books may be sinking in, Dennis.

03:50:29.320 I think so.

03:50:30.640 That's why I mentioned it.

03:50:32.000 God bless you.

03:50:33.260 Megan, thank you again for making so much time for us tonight,

03:50:35.560 and congratulations again on your wonderful new podcast.

03:50:38.700 Thank you, guys.

03:50:39.340 Always a pleasure.

03:50:40.120 See you.

03:50:40.660 And meanwhile, Tom Tillis, too close to call in North Carolina.

03:50:43.980 Really?

03:50:44.520 Yeah.

03:50:45.080 Tillis and Cal Cunningham are separated with over 95 percent of the vote in by a grand total of,

03:50:50.420 I kid you not, 500 votes out of 2.7 million cast.

03:50:54.980 I was hoping it wouldn't be an ugly night, but it looks like it is going to be.

03:50:57.920 For that, I want to go to our Daily Wire war room and Elisha Krauss to look at the data.

03:51:02.520 I'm glad that you...

03:51:06.520 I assume that Jeremy was trying to call me ugly right there,

03:51:10.320 but I think he was actually referring to what's happening with the House and Senate seats across the country.

03:51:14.740 We have an update right now with the electoral map and Daily Wire's own editor-in-chief,

03:51:19.880 John Bickley, here to tell us what's up.

03:51:22.420 Yeah, this is where we stand so far,

03:51:24.420 and some things are looking really good for Trump that are not yet showing up on this map.

03:51:29.140 So if we could go back, we want to look at our original scenario.

03:51:33.560 We talked about at the beginning, how does Trump win this?

03:51:36.840 He wins seven of the 12 battleground states.

03:51:39.800 The ones he needs, Florida, he is...

03:51:43.740 A lot of places have called it.

03:51:45.340 He's on the path to win it.

03:51:47.080 Georgia, he's now at, let's see, 86% chance of winning with a lot of the vote in, about 50%.

03:51:54.340 Okay.

03:51:54.940 North Carolina, New York Times are projecting 95% chance of winning that.

03:51:59.900 So these are three of the absolutely essential states.

03:52:03.120 He's looking good in Ohio, and we're going to talk to Cabot about that.

03:52:06.040 He's got some specific numbers for that.

03:52:08.220 Okay.

03:52:08.940 Texas, he's performing pretty well in Texas.

03:52:11.480 We think he's going to hold on to Texas.

03:52:13.480 What this means is if he can pull off these states, he's trending well in.

03:52:17.140 Can secure Ohio.

03:52:18.760 If he can get Pennsylvania, I'm sorry, and Arizona, he wins.

03:52:24.500 He wins the night.

03:52:25.080 Both of those, he's pulled pretty well in Pennsylvania.

03:52:29.560 Key, we said at the beginning, this is going to be essential.

03:52:32.920 It's looking good.

03:52:34.080 Okay.

03:52:34.360 We've got a lot to watch, but there's reason to be optimistic.

03:52:37.260 There's a lot happening, and we're still waiting, of course, on final tallies in Georgia and North Carolina.

03:52:42.120 But as you guys have been saying, the predictions of the trends seem to be in the direction of a Trump-Pence win in those states.

03:52:50.060 And now we're going to take it to the other part of the war room where Cabot is going to be giving us an update

03:52:55.180 because we're starting to see a lot of data, guys, starting to come in from the important swing state of Ohio.

03:53:00.340 Cabot?

03:53:01.680 I jumped in a little bit early there because I was so excited to tell you about all the new data that we're getting in.

03:53:06.820 Ohio, one of the key states that people have been talking about, President Trump needs to have for his plausible map.

03:53:11.300 74 percent reporting.

03:53:13.020 President Trump is now up 2.4 percent in Ohio.

03:53:16.500 He took the lead there about 15 minutes ago, and since then he's been rapidly climbing.

03:53:20.400 North Carolina, John touched on it earlier, 85 percent reporting.

03:53:23.800 The president now leads 49.6 to 49.2 percent.

03:53:27.060 The New York Times projections, which we've been talking about all night,

03:53:29.740 they are now saying President Trump has a 95 percent chance of winning North Carolina.

03:53:33.860 And in Georgia, 47 percent reporting, still waiting for some of those larger counties surrounding Atlanta.

03:53:38.600 President Trump is up 14 percent.

03:53:39.980 We're going to have to wait to see just how high the voter turnout has been in the surrounding counties around Atlanta.

03:53:44.800 And one more fun little nugget out there.

03:53:46.660 In 2016, a lot of the betting markets gave a pretty accurate depiction of what was going on in the presidential election.

03:53:52.940 This year, throughout 2019 and 2020, especially after COVID, President Trump was a big underdog in the betting markets.

03:53:59.620 We can now tell you that President Trump is actually winning in most of the betting markets by a 2.5 to 1 margin.

03:54:05.560 So if you had money on President Trump, I would suggest maybe selling it now, maybe pulling out a little early if you want to get a quick profit.

03:54:12.160 But President Trump is up in the voting markets as well or in the betting markets as well.

03:54:16.480 So we're going to continue to monitor all of those states.

03:54:19.000 Another race that we're looking at very carefully is John James in Michigan.

03:54:22.780 This is a race that a lot of Republicans have looked at as a potential opportunity to pick up a seat for the Republicans.

03:54:29.000 Right now in Michigan, we have about 24 percent of the numbers.

03:54:33.580 And John James is leading.

03:54:34.920 Again, we're going to continue to update you as we get more information there.

03:54:38.860 Now, we're going to go to Wisconsin now where we've started to get some data in.

03:54:42.120 Ian was talking with me earlier about some of the results we've seen.

03:54:45.260 A lot of people were interested in what would happen in Kenosha.

03:54:47.880 And Ian was telling me earlier, Kenosha, what are the numbers we're at about now, about 68 percent?

03:54:52.120 Yeah.

03:54:52.380 So if we have a quick look at Kenosha right now, live on the New York Times website,

03:54:55.660 Donald Trump has practically double the number of votes as Biden.

03:54:59.540 And early on in 2016, that was a very, very close race.

03:55:02.420 So it turns down burning down your neighborhood and the Democrats just smiling along doesn't do great for the voting.

03:55:08.020 So interesting to watch that county, of course, in addition to the rest of Wisconsin.

03:55:12.800 So people have been asking a lot online about Virginia as well.

03:55:15.620 This is something people have been saying, why aren't we talking more about Virginia?

03:55:18.340 Again, to clarify for people just tuning in recently, right when the voting stopped in Virginia,

03:55:23.560 Fox News was the first news agency to call it for Joe Biden.

03:55:27.060 Since then, no one else has called it.

03:55:29.080 The results in Virginia have been incredibly close.

03:55:31.180 Right now, President Trump up 53 to 45 on Vice President Biden.

03:55:35.300 That's with 53 percent reporting in.

03:55:37.760 Now, one issue with that is there are a huge number of absentee ballots,

03:55:41.380 as well as early voting from northern Virginia and then down in Newport News, Virginia.

03:55:45.260 Those are two areas where Biden is counting on his strong areas for him.

03:55:50.320 So similar to Atlanta, where it's going to come down to voter turnout in Atlanta to see if Biden can turn the tide there.

03:55:54.880 And in Virginia, where he is expected to win, if he can drive up that voter turnout in northern Virginia,

03:55:59.240 down in Newport News, Virginia Beach, he's counting on it.

03:56:01.940 So, Alicia, we've got a lot of data to break down.

03:56:04.340 But right now, continues to be a positive night for the president so far.

03:56:07.700 Yeah, it's fascinating what's happening.

03:56:12.240 And there are some people on Twitter and social media and even in the war room saying,

03:56:15.760 OK, if the data keeps trending this way, could Trump-Pence have a redo of 2016 where, you know, the polls everywhere are upset?

03:56:22.980 We will be sure to bring you guys more information as we get it.

03:56:26.260 Back to you, Jeremy.

03:56:26.760 Thank you, Alicia.

03:56:29.780 Listen, guys, somehow it's a nail-biter.

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03:56:40.840 And it is an actual force race across the country right now. 0.68

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04:00:12.160 Guys, it's a horse race.

04:00:14.360 What is going to happen in Ohio?

04:00:16.120 Benjamin?

04:00:16.760 Well, the latest that I've seen is that it remains a horse race in Ohio.

04:00:20.220 Trump seems to be pulling into the lead in Ohio, so it looks like he's going to win Ohio.

04:00:23.520 The real question is whether the narrow nature of Ohio, which is narrower than it was last time,

04:00:28.460 is more of a tell for Pennsylvania and Michigan and Wisconsin, and whether that translates over.

04:00:33.880 By the way, worthy of note, Lindsey Graham has won his race in South Carolina.

04:00:38.940 Terrific.

04:00:39.160 Lindsey Graham 2.0 wins his race in South Carolina, and that is – they spent $100 million on that race.

04:00:45.580 $100 million to defeat Cocaine Mitch, $100 million to defeat Lindsey Graham.

04:00:49.960 That's $200 million.

04:00:50.740 They just flushed down the toilet, just right down the toilet.

04:00:53.360 This cigar is actually made out of their money.

04:00:57.440 So, guys, before we go any further, our good friend Glenn Beck, again, as with Louder with Crowder, this is a cross-stream.

04:01:05.100 I can't say he's coming on our show, and I can't say that we're going on his show.

04:01:09.160 It is somehow miraculously – they say you never cross the streams.

04:01:12.940 It could be that.

04:01:14.120 In this instance –

04:01:15.240 It's broadcast fluid.

04:01:16.720 That's what it is.

04:01:19.820 You know, thank you very much, Jeremy.

04:01:22.900 If I can just stop you here for just a second, and let me tell Ben, I was listening to you, Ben,

04:01:28.460 on our local affiliate, KLIF, that carries you in the afternoon.

04:01:32.180 I was listening to you today, and you brought to mind – because I'm listening to all these young people that were calling in,

04:01:40.060 and they were just confused by the polls, it seemed, because it wasn't reflecting reality in their life.

04:01:47.520 There were so many things that, in popular culture and things that we've always seen in the past,

04:01:53.980 that just didn't match up with the narrative for the media or the narrative from the polls.

04:02:00.720 Are we starting to see that come apart tonight?

04:02:03.520 I mean, I think so.

04:02:04.920 It's so hard in this business or any other to make the connection between the anecdotal evidence and the data, right?

04:02:12.700 Because you get this data, and you assume that people are trying to put their best inputs into the data,

04:02:16.500 and it's still early, so we'll have to see – Florida's obviously a systemic polling error.

04:02:20.000 I mean, off as much as five points.

04:02:21.660 We still don't know how much it's going to be off in other places.

04:02:24.380 But it looks like it's all off, and it looks like it's all off in one direction.

04:02:27.180 And what that says to me is that less than people experiencing things –

04:02:31.840 because I remember that in 2012, right?

04:02:33.140 In 2012, there were a lot of us saying, well, the enthusiasm for Romney is so high, he's for sure going to win.

04:02:37.300 There's a disconnect with the polls.

04:02:38.860 Even more than that, it is that the absolute disconnect that is felt between our entire elite class,

04:02:44.960 between the entire college-educated pollster elite class and working-class white people,

04:02:51.080 working-class Hispanics, working-class black people is almost unbridgeable. 1.00

04:02:55.420 Because in 2012, I think they got it right because nothing changed fundamentally with the working class 0.99

04:02:59.600 or with black or Hispanic Americans in terms of their voting patterns.

04:03:01.920 But something is fundamentally shifting for the Republican Party and for Donald Trump,

04:03:05.740 and it's whether or not he wins the election.

04:03:07.920 There is something very serious that's happening, and it's a political realignment.

04:03:10.840 It's a class realignment, and it's a racial realignment.

04:03:14.300 And that actually bodes extraordinarily well for the Republican Party

04:03:17.160 because if Donald Trump is able to start pulling 35%, 40% of the Hispanic vote in the way that Bush was,

04:03:22.860 but he's not talking about immigration reform, right?

04:03:24.560 He's just speaking to people as Americans.

04:03:27.760 And if he's able to start pulling 15%, 20% of the black vote, even if he loses tonight,

04:03:31.460 it's going to be a lot easier for Republicans to pick up more of the suburban female vote 1.00

04:03:34.740 than it was for them to break into these brand-new voting blocs.

04:03:37.480 That kind of goes to a question I asked our panel earlier tonight on who, if Donald Trump were to lose tonight,

04:03:48.360 God forbid, but if he were to lose tonight, who can fill his shoes?

04:03:53.300 I was always against a Trump-Republican party, but the Republicans, I think they'd be excited in a way,

04:04:03.000 some of them, that Trump would lose so they could get back to their own crony kind of business.

04:04:07.440 Yes, yeah.

04:04:08.160 And I'm not interested in that, and I don't think America is interested in that.

04:04:12.880 So does this survive and transcend Donald Trump?

04:04:17.000 Or if he would lose, is it back to the old party?

04:04:21.220 No, I think it does survive, and I think it transcends Trump because victory has a way of transcending.

04:04:24.920 So the fact that he's reshaped the map, even if he loses tonight, which we'll see, I'm starting to think he's going to win.

04:04:32.040 But even if he loses tonight, I think people are recognizing their vulnerabilities in the Democratic firewall

04:04:38.020 with regard to race and with regard to class that have been breached by Trump.

04:04:42.740 And I think that you're going to see a lot of candidates on the Republican Party side pour through that.

04:04:46.880 Let's put it this way.

04:04:47.420 I don't think you're going to see a lot more of John McCain and Mitt Romney in the Republican Party's future.

04:04:50.880 I think you're going to see a lot more of people who are Trump-friendly than Nikki Haley's and the Ron DeSantis's.

04:04:56.880 And those are the elites of the Trump-friendly folks.

04:04:59.240 I think you're going to see a lot more of the Josh Howley types who are open populists.

04:05:04.100 I think that the style of the Republican Party has changed, and I think it's changed in a way that's actually –

04:05:08.220 may have been changed quite positively by Trump.

04:05:10.840 It's almost like when you have a piece that's bent out of place on a bicycle, like a bicycle spoke, and it's bent out of place.

04:05:17.200 You don't bend it to where you want it to be.

04:05:18.940 You have to bend it too far the other direction in order to get it to bend where you actually want it to be.

04:05:22.820 And I feel like maybe that's what Trump is for the Republican Party.

04:05:25.840 What is the ballot number that you guys are voting on where you're actually reintroducing discrimination?

04:05:36.520 16.

04:05:37.220 Yeah.

04:05:37.820 16.

04:05:39.220 I've heard that that is close.

04:05:41.100 How do you think that's going to do in the election in California?

04:05:47.720 What are the consequences?

04:05:49.180 And really, why the hell are you guys all still there?

04:05:53.120 I'm not, dude.

04:05:53.940 I'm not.

04:05:54.720 I can't answer the question.

04:05:56.160 I live in Florida.

04:05:57.120 My state's red, my friend.

04:05:58.520 I am out.

04:05:59.220 I voted in Florida.

04:06:00.220 I voted in a swing state.

04:06:01.260 It was all mine.

04:06:01.900 It was all me.

04:06:02.360 If anyone gets credit for Trump winning Florida, it's me.

04:06:05.720 I moved states just to make Trump win Florida.

04:06:07.500 If he wins by one.

04:06:09.840 And Michael and I leave for our new homes in Nashville this week.

04:06:13.820 So talk to the old man here.

04:06:14.920 I'm just, I'm just, I'm detaching.

04:06:16.820 You know, you get old, you know, get old, Glenn.

04:06:18.680 You have a lot of attachments, you know.

04:06:20.100 Hey, can I change the subject for just a minute and congratulate you on entering the Broadcasting Hall of Fame?

04:06:26.180 Absolutely.

04:06:26.880 I was actually going to do it if you didn't.

04:06:28.180 Which would not be the Broadcasting Hall of Fame if you weren't.

04:06:31.200 That's right.

04:06:31.760 Thank you very much.

04:06:33.180 I think any, you know, my name is going to have the plaque on the, you know, the door of the broom closet.

04:06:42.160 You know, it's one of those things I never thought I would get into.

04:06:45.800 And it's such an honor.

04:06:47.380 But now that I'm in it, it kind of cheapens it.

04:06:50.600 No, no, no.

04:06:51.600 If that let me in, anybody can get in.

04:06:54.060 It's good to have humility, Glenn, but the truth of the matter is, and I say this often.

04:06:58.640 In fact, I said it all the time.

04:06:59.680 I said it to Michael and Alan Estrin just this week.

04:07:02.080 I think that you're the greatest living broadcaster.

04:07:04.880 You have a unique understanding of the medium that I think is just unparalleled by anyone currently in the industry.

04:07:13.740 And Drew is absolutely right.

04:07:14.960 If they had somehow opted not to put you in the Broadcasting Hall of Fame, the Radio Hall of Fame, then the thing would have absolutely no value.

04:07:22.260 Glenn, I want you to know that Alan and I did tell Jeremy he was completely insane. 0.90

04:07:26.840 This was ridiculous. 0.78

04:07:28.300 I mean, look, guys, you've got enough alcohol. 0.97

04:07:30.540 I know you guys.

04:07:31.880 That's all the booze talking. 0.58

04:07:33.300 So let's move back to the election.

04:07:34.800 Quick note, Josh Kroushauer, just a quick election notification.

04:07:39.040 Josh Kroushauer with National Journal is calling Ohio for Trump.

04:07:42.240 Trump is up by 2.4.

04:07:43.460 My man.

04:07:43.960 With the Election Day votes still left to count.

04:07:47.640 If Donald Trump picks up Ohio, we are one state away.

04:07:52.200 I mean, Arizona.

04:07:53.380 Arizona.

04:07:54.160 Although the Hispanic turnout so far in the election would lead you to believe he may outperform in Arizona.

04:08:00.440 OK, if it's going to be Raiders of the Lost Ark, right?

04:08:03.200 I mean, this is going to be the unleashing of the godly force at the end of Raiders of the Lost Ark for the media.

04:08:07.720 Like, we're all just going to have to tune in.

04:08:10.100 It's going to be just an infinite regression of us watching MSNBC.

04:08:15.980 We're just going to put MSNBC.

04:08:17.620 We have to put MSNBC on the TV, right?

04:08:19.680 If Trump wins, we all have to.

04:08:21.280 People will tune in to us watching CNN.

04:08:23.480 I agree.

04:08:24.580 We will.

04:08:25.600 I was thinking the same thing.

04:08:27.360 We should put CNN up on one of the.

04:08:28.760 Well, we've been talking all night about how we have to replace the legacy media, replace the legacy media.

04:08:33.140 We won't have to replace it.

04:08:34.640 It will end.

04:08:35.420 It will be so pointless if Donald Trump wins. 0.93

04:08:38.720 Eyeballs will fall out of heads. 0.97

04:08:39.760 It will burn itself down. 0.92

04:08:41.680 It already is well on its way of burning itself down to the ground.

04:08:46.540 But I worry about their phase two, you know, their backup, which I think is actually their first plan.

04:08:55.080 I mean, you don't put as your vice president the one that every Democrat hated to back up a guy who everybody knows.

04:09:03.240 I mean, he's probably not going to make it to putting on Friday.

04:09:06.660 So, you know, you've got those two.

04:09:11.000 I think their plan here is to now create doubt and violence in the streets.

04:09:17.400 And that's very concerning to me because I've done enough homework on what they're planning through the transition integrity project, which is anything but.

04:09:28.240 You guys concerned that, you know, I want to just say that one of one of the personality traits of conservatives is that when we see something to be afraid of, we immediately assume that it's going to work.

04:09:41.920 It's going to come true.

04:09:42.980 And I don't think that's necessarily the case in this present case.

04:09:47.960 That is their plan, Glenn.

04:09:49.200 You've got it exactly right.

04:09:50.700 But we're now living in a world where an invention that is that rivals the printing press and importance has come about, which is the Internet and the way the things we're doing right now, right here.

04:10:01.900 And that has changed everything.

04:10:03.640 And I think their plan is an old plan.

04:10:06.040 I think their plan is from the old days.

04:10:08.000 And I think information spreads now, whether they like it or not.

04:10:11.120 I think that their attempt, their open attempt to shut down the Biden story, when you look at the polls, it didn't work.

04:10:18.800 Yeah, people saw it.

04:10:19.860 They believed it.

04:10:20.540 They knew it was real.

04:10:21.560 They got the information.

04:10:22.860 I'm not sure.

04:10:23.880 I'm not sure that old fashioned ideas like rioting and and pushing and lying that used to work so well are going to work in this modern moment.

04:10:36.240 We are actually out ahead of the of the curve because of what we're doing right here on the blaze and on the daily wire replacement media.

04:10:44.220 We are we are replacing something.

04:10:46.040 We're replacing something that has burned itself to the ground.

04:10:48.860 And I don't know.

04:10:49.880 I hate to be optimistic because I know the one guy this coming from the one guy who's like, I'm not ready to leave California.

04:10:57.360 I'm so ready.

04:10:59.180 He does remember the printing press.

04:11:01.200 He was there.

04:11:02.460 Guys, thank you so much.

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04:11:19.040 And this is something ABC and NBC never did, never would have done.

04:11:24.200 We're not competitors.

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04:11:28.200 We that's right.

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04:11:30.140 But we all go home friends and and it is really nice.

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04:11:55.960 He's exactly right.

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04:12:02.660 Glenn Beck, thank you so much, guys.

04:12:05.920 All right.

04:12:06.280 We have.

04:12:06.560 By the way, quick announcement.

04:12:08.040 Maria Salazar has defeated Donna Shalala in Miami-Dade District 27 congressional seats.

04:12:14.280 Wow.

04:12:14.560 As a Democrat, there are a bunch of Florida seats that are moving into Republican territory in Florida.

04:12:20.380 Dan Crenshaw won re-election.

04:12:21.700 He was in a bit of a tough re-elect.

04:12:23.120 Dan Crenshaw, good friend of all of ours.

04:12:25.960 Yeah, right.

04:12:27.040 Yeah.

04:12:27.580 Pirate captain.

04:12:28.580 And the shirt show all around.

04:12:31.020 Awesome, dude.

04:12:31.540 Dan Crenshaw has won re-election.

04:12:33.020 So that that is excellent stuff.

04:12:34.320 We'll have to keep an eye on Chip Roy, who's who's in a real dogfight.

04:12:36.900 Yeah.

04:12:37.140 And he's in a dogfight with Wendy Davis.

04:12:39.280 If we lose Chip Roy to Wendy Davis.

04:12:42.300 Well, his district, again, borders on Houston and Houston.

04:12:45.080 Borders on Austin.

04:12:45.920 Austin.

04:12:46.500 Yes.

04:12:46.820 Austin.

04:12:47.140 Sorry.

04:12:47.880 Also, AP has called the Florida 26th for another Republican, Carlos Jimenez, over Debbie

04:12:52.840 Marcoso Powell.

04:12:53.860 So that is another GOP pickup.

04:12:55.360 That's a pickup.

04:12:56.020 Yeah.

04:12:56.260 Oh, wow.

04:12:56.980 So this is this is not 2018 blue wave Democratic territory.

04:13:00.920 The national polls are going to be off and off significantly.

04:13:02.460 You know, this is not this is not a Biden 10 point win.

04:13:04.720 This is this is at best, even if Biden ends up winning.

04:13:07.560 This is like a Biden four or five point win, which is what puts it in dicey territory.

04:13:11.020 Here's here's Henry Olsen, who I promote because of his honesty.

04:13:13.920 And he says, I never like being wrong professionally, but it's clear that Biden is not going to win

04:13:18.440 the national vote by anything like what every major polls cross tabs implied.

04:13:22.480 That means polling error of mammoth proportions.

04:13:24.920 The industry will have a lot of serious thinking to do, whether they're capable of serious.

04:13:28.480 I want to welcome to the show again, Daily Wire's very own Matt Walsh.

04:13:36.580 I am going Matt.

04:13:37.480 Thanks for coming back.

04:13:38.360 I'm going to hand off both this segment and the show itself to Michael Knowles on account on a counter.

04:13:45.820 Go to the restroom. 1.00

04:13:47.580 Live forever.

04:13:49.540 So now it's the Catholic hour.

04:13:51.000 Now we're welcoming Matt Walsh and the Pope are coming on.

04:13:54.540 Holy Father, thank you so much for coming on the show.

04:13:57.340 Matt, thank you for coming on.

04:13:58.440 I do want to take a moment, though, gentlemen, as we've said this, because, you know, the media

04:14:02.300 are going to completely change the story, whatever happens tomorrow.

04:14:05.400 And they're going to say the polls were actually right.

04:14:07.340 They're going to try to convince us that these polls were right.

04:14:10.180 They're not right.

04:14:10.820 No matter how this turns out tonight, the polls got this wrong.

04:14:14.220 Yeah.

04:14:14.420 Matt, what are you seeing out from your garage or your car or wherever you are right now?

04:14:21.140 Well, right now I'm actually in a I'm in a real building.

04:14:24.020 So that's a that's a step up for me.

04:14:26.000 Yeah, I'm in I'm in a in a building with a nice view of Nashville.

04:14:29.520 I think, you know, the thing with the polls is I don't I don't see after this what role polling plays.

04:14:35.740 I think that pollsters go to the level of like, you know, back a few years ago, the psychics that you would call 100 numbers for.

04:14:42.940 Or I think they go to sort of Cleo.

04:14:45.360 I don't know what happened to Cleo, but they're yeah, they go to a Miss Cleo level. 1.00

04:14:48.280 They really do.

04:14:49.320 And I think part of that is they're trying to predict at some level.

04:14:53.280 They're trying to predict, right, what people are going to do on Election Day.

04:14:55.800 But that's very hard to do, especially because everybody knows what they're predicting and people are responding to those predictions as well.

04:15:02.720 So it's just it's a really difficult thing to do.

04:15:05.020 And I just don't know what role polls play anymore.

04:15:07.820 Sure. Matt, you were you were very on focus when the Black Lives Matter and Antifa riots were going all around.

04:15:15.220 You were digging up stories of the mainstream media were not covering.

04:15:18.740 There has been so much weird in this election season.

04:15:22.920 And obviously that might explain why these models got things wrong.

04:15:26.600 What what effect do you think the riots have had?

04:15:29.520 What effect do you think the lockdowns have had and what of this is just because Trump is an interesting candidate and Joe Biden can't finish a sentence?

04:15:39.200 Well, I think the last thing you said plays plays a lot into it.

04:15:41.640 I mean, at the end of the day, Trump has a lot of enthusiasm.

04:15:45.360 And when you're an incumbent and you also have enthusiasm, that's going to be hard for anyone to overcome.

04:15:50.980 And then when you've got the guy running against him is, you know, brain is made of of soggy Cheerios, it makes it it makes it even more difficult.

04:15:59.240 But I, you know, I was skeptical.

04:16:01.540 I was worried heading into the election that because, as I always talk about, as as Americans in modern society, we have the memory of of house flies.

04:16:11.600 I was worried that even though we had three or four months of rioting and these rampaging mobs supported by the Democrat, encouraged by Democrat Party, funded even by by liberals, burning down cities.

04:16:22.760 I was worried that it wouldn't factor in the end because nobody would remember it.

04:16:26.800 But I think I it's still too early to say.

04:16:30.440 But it's it's when you look at how wrong the polls were and the results so far.

04:16:34.380 Yeah, it's it's hard to to to think that that didn't factor in at least a little bit.

04:16:39.840 And of course, it should, because, like I said before, it's what what have the Democrats actually done to attract new voters over the last four years?

04:16:50.580 We talk about what what you know, what has Trump done to bring in new voters?

04:16:53.480 Well, he didn't need to bring in new voters.

04:16:54.980 He was he was he won with what he had last time.

04:16:57.100 So what have the Democrats done?

04:16:58.960 And I think encouraging rioting and engaging in this this this opening, you know, open bigotry and race baiting and, you know, advocating shutting down the country, putting us all muzzling us in masks, throwing people at work.

04:17:12.980 That's not going to do it.

04:17:13.740 That doesn't that just doesn't appeal to to people.

04:17:15.520 So what I would want Democrats to do is I know that if they lose, they're going to they're going to say it was voter suppression.

04:17:22.080 They're going to say it was bigotry.

04:17:23.620 But reflect on the possibility that you lost because you are horrible and unappealing on every intellectual and emotional level. 1.00

04:17:32.260 You know, James Carville famously said in the early 90s, it's the economy, stupid about how to win an election. 1.00

04:17:39.180 I think you might you might say how to lose an election. 1.00

04:17:40.800 It's the looting, stupid. 1.00

04:17:42.120 It's the arson, stupid. 1.00

04:17:43.400 But there there is some news coming out from Twitter. 1.00

04:17:46.420 And I mean, it's not on Twitter.

04:17:47.620 I'm saying it's from Twitter itself.

04:17:49.520 There's a big alert at the top now that says election results might be delayed with the increase in voting by mail.

04:17:56.440 There might be a delay in the announcement of election results.

04:17:58.880 This means you could encounter unconfirmed claims that a candidate has won their race.

04:18:04.180 I got to tell you, Matt, I'm reading that.

04:18:05.680 It makes me think that the libs think they're losing.

04:18:08.260 How do you how do you read the coverage of the election?

04:18:11.300 Yeah, it does.

04:18:13.600 It does seem that way.

04:18:14.460 And I would worry, I guess, like everybody else, that if this thing does drag on for days and we go into Pennsylvania and they say they've got ballots, they still have to count and everything.

04:18:23.560 You worry about shenanigans there.

04:18:25.040 I haven't been like a lot of conservatives.

04:18:28.140 I haven't been as concerned about things like voter fraud.

04:18:31.260 But that does become become a concern because when when they believe they are trying to unseat evil himself, literally worse than Hitler, then ends justify the means.

04:18:44.760 I mean, anything you can do to make that happen.

04:18:46.740 If you really are running against actually Hitler, then I would say pretty much anything you do to stop him is OK, is morally permissible. 0.95

04:18:54.460 And at least that that seems to be their their attitudes.

04:18:57.880 That would make me concerned about about shenanigans.

04:19:01.300 But as long as he's only the mango Mussolini, then it's a little bit less fearsome than if he were actually Hitler. 0.85

04:19:07.800 I think I think you're right.

04:19:09.080 I think that is the attitude.

04:19:10.340 There's something that is really confusing leftists tonight.

04:19:14.240 And that is the increase in the Hispanic vote and the black vote for Donald Trump.

04:19:20.440 And this doesn't make sense to him, especially the Hispanic vote, because Donald Trump launched his campaign.

04:19:25.080 We all remember he came down the escalator and he said that there are lots of bad people coming over illegally from Mexico.

04:19:30.240 And he said, OK, he's lost the vote.

04:19:31.760 And yet, for some reason, actually, it all went in the other direction.

04:19:34.720 I know, Matt, you focus on culture so much more than, you know, the kind of wonkiness of various policies or economics.

04:19:42.420 And I'm I'm leaning in that direction as well.

04:19:46.620 What is the lesson?

04:19:48.480 Actually, regardless of what happens tonight, what is the lesson from just what we know right now for Republicans moving hopefully in four years or eight years or 12 years after President Trump?

04:19:59.120 How are we supposed to proceed at the political level?

04:20:02.000 What should Republican candidates look like?

04:20:05.480 Well, if we're talking about what you brought up, you know, the minority vote and how that's and how that's shaping up, I think one lesson.

04:20:13.120 Maybe this is more a lesson for Democrats, but also it's on the reverse of lesson for Republicans, too.

04:20:16.880 But, you know, Trump spoke to voters.

04:20:21.720 The way I look at it, Trump spoke to all voters basically the same.

04:20:24.880 And he's kind of we know he's kind of a brash guy and he could be vulgar and that sort of thing.

04:20:29.240 But he tries to appeal to everybody the same way on the same level, like it or not.

04:20:33.680 And but but what you have for Democrats, they, you know, they try to put people into different categories and they're very patronizing to to minority voters.

04:20:42.860 And maybe they're voters that don't like being spoken to that way.

04:20:46.580 They just they just, you know, just just give it to me straight.

04:20:48.680 Just just speak to me straight like a normal person.

04:20:50.600 You don't you don't have to address me as a black voter or a Hispanic voter.

04:20:53.800 Just I'm just an American.

04:20:55.020 You could talk to me that way.

04:20:56.500 And maybe maybe we're discovering that that's what that's what people want, regardless of their race.

04:21:01.800 Treat people with dignity like they're human beings.

04:21:04.000 It's such a shocking discovery.

04:21:05.780 You know, I think all of us here at Daily Wire in 2016 were skeptical of Trump, even some of us didn't vote for him.

04:21:13.780 Some of us did vote for him.

04:21:14.800 But we were all very skeptical.

04:21:16.220 Matt, I know you were quite critical of him.

04:21:18.520 You were quite skeptical now, obviously, much less so.

04:21:21.480 He's won you over.

04:21:22.320 This is true of so many of my friends and relatives, even who didn't vote for him in 2016, who did vote for him this time.

04:21:30.380 Was there one issue?

04:21:31.820 Was there one moment that shifted you or was it just the combination of everything?

04:21:36.780 I it's not so much one issue, I guess, like a lot of people who were in my camp in 2016.

04:21:45.400 The the concern I had about Trump was being a New York Democrat.

04:21:49.620 And I was concerned about the policy.

04:21:51.480 And I thought that he would govern like a New York Democrat.

04:21:55.320 And he just he just simply hasn't.

04:21:57.980 So it's as simple as that.

04:21:59.600 It's more like what he hasn't done that has shifted my view of him.

04:22:04.160 Now, there were other concerns and criticisms I've had of Trump.

04:22:07.840 I had of Trump in 2016, but I still have now.

04:22:10.780 So it's not like I've gone.

04:22:12.320 I'm not wearing the MAGA hat exactly.

04:22:13.880 But right. But that that was the main thing, you know, and and he has not governed like that.

04:22:19.680 And he's you know, he's advanced policies.

04:22:23.780 What he's done with the Supreme Court, obviously.

04:22:25.960 Look, if if I don't know if Trump is actually pro-life deep in his heart, but it doesn't matter because the Supreme Court justices that he's chosen, especially Amy Coney Barrett, the last one.

04:22:37.220 And that is the Supreme Court justice that any pro-life conservative would choose.

04:22:41.960 And so that's how he's governing.

04:22:43.680 That's those are the choices he's making.

04:22:45.140 What he actually believes in his heart doesn't matter to me, really.

04:22:48.520 Honestly, it just it just matters what he does.

04:22:50.800 And and so we've seen that.

04:22:52.560 I just want to point out at this point that the worst possible case scenario, which is also the most hilarious possible case scenario, is still very much on the table.

04:23:00.340 There could easily be 269, 269.

04:23:02.300 You're kidding.

04:23:02.680 No, a hundred percent.

04:23:04.460 This could happen.

04:23:05.340 Right now, Trump is trailing in Arizona.

04:23:08.000 So if he loses Arizona, if he wins Pennsylvania and if he receives one of the votes in Maine and both in Nebraska, you now have a 269, 269.

04:23:19.480 Why is that worst case scenario?

04:23:21.340 It sounds great.

04:23:22.220 All right.

04:23:22.620 It's perfect.

04:23:23.500 It's it's I mean, when I say worst case, I mean, kind of best case, because, like, the fun just never ends at that point.

04:23:28.520 And then it goes to the house.

04:23:30.500 And here's it.

04:23:30.960 No, but here's the best part.

04:23:31.660 You ready for this?

04:23:32.060 So then it goes to the house.

04:23:33.240 The house votes by state.

04:23:34.900 Right.

04:23:35.420 So the house does not vote by the number of members of the house.

04:23:39.600 So the states right now are divided 26, 23 in favor of Republicans.

04:23:45.300 If one of those states move, if one, I think one is split exactly evenly.

04:23:49.820 If one of those states or two move into the Democratic category, you have a 269, 269 tie.

04:23:55.740 It is solved by the next Congress after they are put into place.

04:23:59.160 If a 25, 25 split in the in the house and the vice presidency is decided by the Senate, which could easily be split 50 50.

04:24:07.000 Right.

04:24:07.400 So then the Bobcat becomes president, right?

04:24:10.360 Then it's President Bobcat time.

04:24:11.660 Does Pence get to vote?

04:24:13.120 He's usually the tiebreaker in the Senate.

04:24:14.820 Does he get to vote for himself as a president pro-temporary?

04:24:17.460 Then he's not.

04:24:18.060 I don't know that he's sitting at that point.

04:24:19.920 Right.

04:24:20.120 Right.

04:24:20.320 You've now moved past the election.

04:24:22.320 So it's it's pretty much a mess.

04:24:25.800 But that's that's the that is the early open all the Pandora's boxes.

04:24:30.160 You know, I had someone unlock the tomb of the mummy like that.

04:24:33.040 That's is Arizona.

04:24:34.720 Is I noticed that Arizona is not looking great for Trump right now.

04:24:38.220 It's not.

04:24:38.920 Yeah.

04:24:39.440 But with about 75 percent of the vote in, he's trailing pretty heavily, particularly Maricopa County, the suburbs around Phoenix.

04:24:45.160 Right.

04:24:45.620 That's why Sinema won her last race in Arizona. 0.97

04:24:48.240 So Trump won Arizona fairly narrowly in 2016 and then Sinema won that Senate seat.

04:24:52.800 So Arizona could be trending away from him.

04:24:55.060 He can still win the way that he still wins.

04:24:57.480 He wins Pennsylvania, which he could do.

04:24:59.740 And then theoretically, Nevada is out there.

04:25:02.020 He could pick up Nevada.

04:25:03.140 He could also pick up both of the seats in Nebraska and one of the seats in Maine.

04:25:07.380 If he picks up both seats in Nebraska, one seat in Maine, not Nevada.

04:25:10.720 But yes, Pennsylvania, he wins exactly 270.

04:25:13.500 Wow.

04:25:14.100 So, I mean, here's one thing that is that is for sure true.

04:25:17.580 So everybody who said that this was going to be a complete blowout, everybody who said that this was going to be – that they never had – that there was no reckoning coming for anybody in the media, that the overwhelming majority of Americans were so concerned about the evils of Donald Trump personally that they were going to show up and vote him out of office in massive Ronald Reagan-like numbers, Barack Obama-like numbers.

04:25:35.120 It ain't happening.

04:25:36.000 And these people better get with the program because here's the thing.

04:25:38.880 If Trump were to lose narrowly, they're not going to have Donald Trump to run against next time, which is both a downside for them and a real – it's an upside for them in the sense that Trump generates an enormous amount of heat.

04:25:49.580 But it is also a real downside for them because this entire campaign has been about Trump's character, not about anything else.

04:25:55.020 If they had to run against the policies and on the basis of their own intersectional bullcrap, they'd be in real, real trouble.

04:26:01.120 It's really true.

04:26:02.220 You know, they're not winning – they're certainly not winning on policy.

04:26:04.440 They're not winning on enthusiasm for the –

04:26:06.400 Because right now – remember, Trump is getting Hispanic votes.

04:26:09.000 He's getting black votes.

04:26:09.960 If that happens and he loses because of suburban white women, that category of voter went for the Republicans in every election since 2000 up until this one. 1.00

04:26:19.380 Right, so what's more likely, that Republicans are able to pull back some of those votes in 2024 or that Republicans lose all of the gains that Trump made with Hispanics and blacks?

04:26:29.240 Right, that becomes the calculation.

04:26:30.880 Yeah, I suppose the question does become what the party looks like after Trump because if the party does revert to a kind of Bush-era or Romney type of candidate, something tells me little Wayne is not going to be endorsing Mitt Romney.

04:26:42.120 You know, is there were the Amish coming out in large numbers for Romney.

04:26:44.940 I Googled earlier Amish for Romney.

04:26:46.660 It has zero search results.

04:26:48.180 Nothing comes up.

04:26:48.880 So, you know, obviously Trump is a unique figure.

04:26:51.380 We'll see what happens after that.

04:26:54.120 Ben, I think this is like Chekhov's gun.

04:26:56.260 When you mention –

04:26:57.620 It has to happen.

04:26:58.240 It has to happen now.

04:26:59.760 A good friend of mine said to me in 2016, when all the polls were going against Trump, I had already had money on the table for Trump, and I hedged my bet a little bit.

04:27:09.300 I said, I'm going to lose a lot of money. 1.00

04:27:10.660 And he said, Michael, you're an idiot. 1.00

04:27:12.960 And he said, of course Trump's going to win. 1.00

04:27:14.320 I said, what are you talking about?

04:27:15.260 All the polls are against Trump.

04:27:16.380 He said, Michael, his name's Trump.

04:27:17.320 In the movie, Trump has to win.

04:27:19.340 And in the movie version of this, it has to be 269-269.

04:27:22.680 It has to go to the House.

04:27:23.920 It has to go to the Senate.

04:27:25.480 If nothing else, this is the only election analysis in which Chekhov's gun has been mentioned.

04:27:29.400 It's true.

04:27:30.080 Tom Tullis is running ahead of Trump in North Carolina and seems more and more likely that he's going to win that Senate seat.

04:27:37.240 That's big.

04:27:37.800 If Tom Tullis wins that Senate seat, there's a very, very good shot that Republicans retain control of the Senate, which is like a fantastic backstop if, God forbid, Trump were to lose.

04:27:45.880 Yeah.

04:27:46.020 Having the Senate in Republican hands is a massive, massive win because at least you can stop the vast craziness that is about to be unleashed on us if, God forbid, Biden were to win.

04:27:54.360 Yeah, absolutely.

04:27:57.200 So, Matt, looking into the future, since you were so right about all of those riots that were going on in the past seven months, what do you foresee this evening?

04:28:07.320 If Trump wins, if Biden wins, if we don't know who wins, are the cities getting burned down or do we get to take the plywood off of our stores and resume normal life?

04:28:16.680 Well, I think the cities obviously are going to experience the riding we're all expecting if Trump does win.

04:28:23.940 I mean, if Biden wins, probably there will be some, too, celebratory riding.

04:28:27.100 I don't think it will last as long.

04:28:28.340 But I do wonder, going back to the question of how was everybody wrong, the polling was wrong and everything, because for me, I never thought it would be a Biden landslide.

04:28:38.020 But the one thing, even though I knew Trump was an incumbent, so he's got a huge advantage, he's got a lot of enthusiasm, the one thing that always made me think, I don't know, maybe Biden wins, is that when you look at all of these cities where there has been rioting or mostly peaceful protests,

04:28:51.680 and even going back to the Women's March four years ago, a million people came out, and all of that, you think, well, there's obviously a lot of enthusiasm against him.

04:29:01.680 Where do those people go?

04:29:03.560 Why are they not showing up to vote?

04:29:05.340 And you start to wonder, maybe these people don't really hate Trump as much as they claim they do.

04:29:10.460 Maybe this is just they love going out for a riot or a protest.

04:29:14.740 It's a lot of fun, especially when you get a free TV out of the deal or a free microwave or something.

04:29:21.140 But actually going to vote, that's like a practical sort of boring step, and you've got to go down ballot, and you're looking at Senate races.

04:29:27.700 Who cares about that?

04:29:29.020 I wonder if that's what it comes down to.

04:29:31.080 A lot of these people, they'll grab the Molotov cocktail, but if it doesn't go boom and explode, they're just not as interested in it.

04:29:39.100 Right.

04:29:39.520 Every single year you hear the Democrats say, this year all the youth are going to vote, and we're going to have a blue landslide.

04:29:45.240 And the youth are really excited, and they tweet, and they Instagram, and they TikTok, but they don't vote.

04:29:49.320 They don't actually show up to vote, and that may be the case with the rest of these Democratic voters.

04:29:56.080 It looks like some good times happening at BLM Plaza in Washington, D.C.

04:29:59.160 I can't imagine why a plaza that's been named for BLM would be outside of violence. 0.77

04:30:02.720 No, that's so strange.

04:30:04.460 Whatsoever, because a movement that literally writes on the pavement, BLM equals defund the police.

04:30:08.920 How could things possibly turn violent?

04:30:10.340 Apparently people are hitting each other in the head with bats.

04:30:12.340 I don't understand why.

04:30:14.300 How could that be?

04:30:15.460 Why?

04:30:16.200 Why?

04:30:17.500 Look to the sky, and you ask God.

04:30:18.880 Here's an interesting little stat, that in Lackawanna County, Pennsylvania, Trump is ahead by 20%, 20 points.

04:30:27.540 This is a county that Clinton won by three points.

04:30:30.700 Wow.

04:30:31.620 Also worth noting, Univision had a poll the other day that showed that Trump was losing Cubans in Florida by 15%.

04:30:39.040 He's winning Cubans in Florida by 40%. 0.82

04:30:41.600 The Univision poll was off by 55 points.

04:30:45.160 That's within the margin of error, though.

04:30:46.600 That's right.

04:30:47.020 I will say that my security guy had a beat on this.

04:30:51.960 He is of, I believe, Cuban extraction in Florida.

04:30:55.840 And he was like, yeah, you have no idea, dude.

04:30:57.700 He was like, in Miami-Dade, he's like, people are showing up en masse, Cubans, Venezuelans, to vote for Trump.

04:31:04.280 And it's hilarious to watch the media preemptively melting down.

04:31:08.060 They're preemptively melting down. 0.73

04:31:09.160 They're preemptively going like, oh, well, it's the white people. 0.57

04:31:11.180 Jemele Hill tweeted out.

04:31:12.220 But it's just the white people. 0.57

04:31:13.300 It's not the white people. 0.75

04:31:14.680 It's the opposite.

04:31:15.760 Yeah.

04:31:15.920 So, like, he's actually not getting the white votes that he was getting last time.

04:31:19.080 He's just getting way more minority votes.

04:31:20.540 This is so funny.

04:31:21.360 He's winning the popular vote.

04:31:25.980 He's winning the popular vote.

04:31:27.480 I can't imagine.

04:31:28.840 I mean, California hasn't come in.

04:31:30.000 That's right.

04:31:30.460 But with that said, like, the fact that if he wins, based on elevated Latino and black vote,

04:31:36.800 after they called him a vicious white supremacist for four years and suggested, as Jonathan Chait did,

04:31:44.120 that voting for Trump meant that you embraced his racism, 0.99

04:31:47.140 and then he wins not because of a bunch of, quote, unquote, racist, white, non-educated, 1.00

04:31:51.900 high school education level idiots from the rural area. 1.00

04:31:55.600 He doesn't win because of even those non-existent mythical people. 1.00

04:31:58.840 He wins instead because Latinos and blacks don't see the world in the same terms 1.00

04:32:04.080 as the idiot, gender studies, Afro-American studies, white idiots in major universities. 1.00

04:32:11.200 That's – it's damn fantastic. 1.00

04:32:13.320 It is.

04:32:13.900 It's huge.

04:32:14.480 I blame the deplorables.

04:32:16.380 You know, those deplorables down in Miami-Dade, they were –

04:32:20.220 they're going to start renaming all of them because that narrative is going to fall apart.

04:32:25.760 Los deplorables.

04:32:26.600 Los deplorables.

04:32:27.760 By the way, Trump's lead in Ohio is now up to about five points.

04:32:31.240 I know.

04:32:31.420 It's now up to about five points.

04:32:32.400 Wow.

04:32:32.660 So that is bad news for them in Pennsylvania.

04:32:35.360 So keep an eye on Arizona.

04:32:36.720 That's the next one that we should be keeping an eye on.

04:32:38.780 You know, he can – if he wins Pennsylvania, he can win without Arizona.

04:32:42.060 If he wins Pennsylvania and he loses Arizona, he needs to either pick up Nevada

04:32:45.960 or he needs to pick up both districts in Nebraska and one in Maine.

04:32:49.900 Okay.

04:32:50.640 Okay, so that's where things stand right now.

04:32:53.720 So if he – like, the fact that it would rely on Nebraska and Maine, it's a wild country, man,

04:32:58.740 a very, very wild country.

04:32:59.780 Right now, the polls were tending to show a split in Nebraska and a split in Maine, which would not be enough.

04:33:06.100 If there were a split in Nebraska and a split in Maine and he loses Arizona but he picks up Ohio, Pennsylvania – I'm doing the math in real time –

04:33:13.020 North Carolina, Georgia, Florida, Iowa.

04:33:15.760 That puts him at 268.

04:33:18.420 At 268.

04:33:19.540 How many points does Greenland offer, though?

04:33:21.260 Yeah, that's why you push him over the edge.

04:33:22.900 How did you feel – how did you feel about Crowder's analysis?

04:33:26.220 You know, I kind of was interested in that because he really doesn't know that area.

04:33:29.460 Yeah, I mean, no, he said Ohio wasn't – wasn't competitive.

04:33:31.440 Yeah.

04:33:31.740 So he knows Ohio better than I do.

04:33:33.340 Yeah.

04:33:33.540 He spent a lot of time in Michigan, Ohio, and in that area.

04:33:36.360 So he hit that one on the head.

04:33:38.580 So, again, if – Arizona – Arizona is where it's –

04:33:43.320 Yeah. 0.76

04:33:43.920 Where it's ugly.

04:33:44.360 But it'll be fascinating to see.

04:33:45.760 Will the left – let's say that Biden wins narrow, which is still very much on the table.

04:33:50.540 So let's put aside the preemptive drunken rivalry, which maybe we'll get to that later tonight.

04:33:55.300 We'll see.

04:33:55.900 But if – let's say that Biden wins narrow. 0.98

04:33:57.760 If Biden wins narrow, will the left put aside the intersectional crap? 0.96

04:34:00.580 Will Biden use that as an excuse to say, listen, I didn't run on that and you guys are terrible and we're not doing this anymore? 0.96

04:34:06.400 Because that could actually be quite a good thing for the country.

04:34:08.200 And especially if we have 51 in the Senate.

04:34:10.900 I mean, if we continue to keep the Senate, that'll make a big difference because they just can't – it's just a lot of stuff they can't get through.

04:34:16.780 Right.

04:34:17.220 Yeah.

04:34:17.560 Those Senate numbers are looking much, much better for the Republicans.

04:34:21.300 So this is – but to watch the meltdown happening in real time, you can see it.

04:34:26.380 You can see it.

04:34:27.120 The meltdown is happening in real time.

04:34:29.180 Members of the media are starting to lose it.

04:34:31.400 They're shifting the narrative almost immediately.

04:34:34.300 It's going from look at all these paths that Biden has to win and Trump has no paths to win to,

04:34:38.500 well, Trump looks like he might theoretically have a path to win to – what are Biden's paths to win again?

04:34:42.620 Yeah.

04:34:42.900 Yeah.

04:34:43.020 And remember, again, this could take weeks.

04:34:47.860 I mean, Philadelphia is not going to report vote totals until 9 a.m. tomorrow.

04:34:52.880 Detroit isn't finishing counting a backlog of absentee ballots until tomorrow night.

04:34:56.860 It could take weeks.

04:34:57.800 And you remember Joe Biden – the Biden campaign leaked this earlier yesterday, which was that if it looked like Joe clearly won it, he was going to come out, he was going to declare victory, even though the campaigns had said they weren't going to do that.

04:35:10.180 But now I just don't know where it would stand.

04:35:13.600 As we get to the end of tonight, is there any world in which one of the campaigns can credibly declare victory?

04:35:19.480 Or – no, then no one's going to be able to declare victory tonight.

04:35:22.660 Yeah.

04:35:22.940 I can't imagine it.

04:35:24.160 You think so?

04:35:24.860 Yeah.

04:35:25.160 If Trump wins Arizona, then he has the best shot at claiming victory.

04:35:28.180 If he loses Arizona, I just can't imagine that he – it's just not a clear-cut election.

04:35:34.060 It just ain't.

04:35:34.440 Like, I don't see how anyone's going to claim victory tonight.

04:35:36.960 I think that it's going to be long into the night.

04:35:39.000 We might have some indicators as to who we think is going to – like, if Trump wins Arizona, I think at that point you have to start favoring the possibility that he wins the election.

04:35:48.400 Yeah.

04:35:48.680 But if he loses Arizona, you know, I still think you have to slightly favor Biden at that point.

04:35:54.300 But this is way, way, way closer than anybody in the mainstream media.

04:35:59.260 Oh, my gosh.

04:36:00.120 My God.

04:36:00.680 I mean, my God.

04:36:01.920 This actually does not reflect the poll.

04:36:03.680 I mean, the polls are not – you know, the last election – I always had a gripe with this idea that the last election, the polls got it right.

04:36:11.520 I mean, to me, when you're saying it's a 98 percent chance Trump's going to lose and he wins, you know, I get why they said it was right.

04:36:19.300 I get why they said that some of the numbers were right and they just read them wrong.

04:36:22.580 But still, reading the polls is part of your job, right?

04:36:25.000 I mean, anybody can collect that data, but you've got to read the polls.

04:36:28.680 They read them wrong.

04:36:29.440 And you can't just say, oh, we were right within the context of our entire wrongness.

04:36:34.280 You know, we were essentially right.

04:36:35.800 But this is different.

04:36:36.880 This is actually wrong.

04:36:38.540 They were wrong.

04:36:39.360 And already, you know, there's no way for them to read this.

04:36:43.400 And that raises a lot of questions.

04:36:46.000 It raises a question, the most important question.

04:36:48.200 I mean, we were having cigars out on my patio talking to Spencer, and Spencer said they are not polling a country that exists.

04:36:53.680 And I think that that's really something that we have to examine, you know.

04:36:58.500 Yeah, I'm really pleased because we have been debating this for a long time, you know. 0.70

04:37:03.120 And I am always on the side of polls are ridiculous and data is ridiculous and we should basically ignore the whole thing. 0.88

04:37:09.960 And people call me a kook. 0.98

04:37:11.040 Maybe I was a kook sometimes.

04:37:12.580 But at a certain point, if the system breaks down, then the problem is they're modeling a country that does not exist.

04:37:18.340 Matt, what credence do you give to the polls, if any, still?

04:37:23.260 I mean, I don't want to throw the baby out with the bathwater here, but it does seem like they got something wrong.

04:37:30.720 One thing that we're putting it.

04:37:31.920 There we go.

04:37:32.340 We have Matt.

04:37:33.660 Matt's gone.

04:37:34.520 Like the polls, Matt is no longer with us.

04:37:37.580 I think that's a good way of putting it, that they're, you know, polling a country that doesn't exist.

04:37:43.500 I think it's a sort of a similar thing we're talking about what happened with the black vote and the minority vote.

04:37:49.420 It's Democrats think, and we've seen this, where they think that black lives matter and black people are the same thing.

04:38:00.040 And so if you criticize black lives matter, then you're criticizing black people.

04:38:04.360 Whatever you say about black lives matter, you're saying about black people. 1.00

04:38:06.620 And, of course, that's completely ridiculous and untrue. 0.98

04:38:08.800 Black lives matter is an actual organization. 0.96

04:38:10.380 And then you look at what they believe and what they profess.

04:38:14.760 It's got nothing to do with black people whatsoever.

04:38:16.660 But this is how Democrats think. 0.93

04:38:18.420 They think, well, this is what the black vote is. 0.99

04:38:20.680 What do black lives matter believe in? 1.00

04:38:22.440 They believe in, you know, disrupting the nuclear family. 0.98

04:38:25.180 And they care about stuff like heteronormative thinking, whatever the hell that is.

04:38:29.520 And, no, this has nothing to do with whatsoever.

04:38:31.620 But in their minds, they think it's exactly the same.

04:38:33.840 It's an interchangeable group.

04:38:35.060 And so they're trying to appeal to minority voters with this kind of stuff.

04:38:38.860 And yet again, it's sort of like appealing to a group that doesn't really exist or at least exists in much smaller numbers than they believe.

04:38:46.700 And I think that's what's coming back to bite them right now.

04:38:49.380 I'm looking at exit polls right now.

04:38:51.120 And for what it's worth, this is so great.

04:38:52.860 So here's the here's the change from 2016 in the exit polls.

04:38:55.660 You ready for this?

04:38:56.740 OK, Latino women plus three for Trump. 1.00

04:38:58.740 Latino men plus three for Trump.

04:39:00.060 Black women, black women plus four for Trump. 1.00

04:39:02.660 Black men plus four for Trump. 0.64

04:39:04.380 White women plus two for Trump. 1.00

04:39:05.740 White men down five for Trump.

04:39:07.540 That's it.

04:39:08.240 That's I just.

04:39:09.000 That's crazy.

04:39:09.720 OK, I'm sorry.

04:39:10.320 Wow.

04:39:10.900 Is it or whatever?

04:39:12.060 This is the alternative reality.

04:39:13.380 We're living in it.

04:39:14.140 Elon Musk simulation.

04:39:15.340 Wait, this is not the alternative reality.

04:39:17.360 It's the reason they are the alternative reality.

04:39:19.560 No, that's right.

04:39:20.080 But it's it's so counter.

04:39:21.960 It's so counter to everything they've been saying for years.

04:39:24.540 Yeah.

04:39:24.980 And it's that it's it's a stop.

04:39:27.100 I mean, it's still astonishing.

04:39:27.960 It should be astonishing.

04:39:28.700 And it shows why nobody should ever subscribe to The New York Times.

04:39:30.540 But you should subscribe.

04:39:31.680 Daily Wire.

04:39:32.760 Seriously.

04:39:33.560 You should.

04:39:34.560 I mean, not only for all the announcements that we've made tonight.

04:39:37.440 Candace Owens joining The Daily Wire, moving with us to Nashville and launching a show with a live audience.

04:39:42.300 Not only that we now have PragerU videos available behind our paywall for all of our subscribers.

04:39:47.340 Not only that we are adding investigative reporters that we can compete with the mainstream media and we are forging into new territory. 0.98

04:39:52.080 But also because you've got to burn these suckers down. 0.99

04:39:54.420 I mean, yeah, they are just awful at their jobs. 1.00

04:39:57.840 They're awful at their jobs.

04:39:59.100 I mean, if you did not know anything about alternative media, if you didn't know anything about replacement media, when you've just been watching this narrative, this night must come like a clock on the head.

04:40:06.400 It must.

04:40:06.940 It must.

04:40:07.220 It must come like a brick to the face because many of us, like even those of us who tend to trust more in the data, right, in the data that were provided, like me.

04:40:16.000 Even I've been saying I'm not calling this.

04:40:17.340 I literally said before the night started, I'm not making predictions tonight because I do not think it is possible to make predictions on the basis of the polls that are in front of us.

04:40:24.900 So I had no solid feeling about the night.

04:40:27.280 I had no real solid prediction about the night.

04:40:28.980 The only prediction that I made about the night is I thought that Trump would win North Carolina, Florida, Arizona.

04:40:32.700 So we'll see about Arizona.

04:40:33.760 Yeah.

04:40:33.920 I didn't have a good feeling one way or the other about Pennsylvania.

04:40:36.280 But if you watch the mainstream media, Trump is going to lose every single one of those states, plus Georgia, plus maybe Texas.

04:40:42.020 Yeah.

04:40:42.580 And they're just damned wrong.

04:40:44.080 They're just wrong.

04:40:44.840 I know.

04:40:45.120 You know, this was – I've tried not to make any real predictions.

04:40:48.940 If people ask me my feeling, I'll tell it to them.

04:40:50.880 I made a very modest bet with a Democrat friend of mine who insisted.

04:40:54.620 He said, we've got to put some money on it.

04:40:55.820 I made a modest bet.

04:40:57.280 And, you know, I bet for Trump.

04:40:58.660 So he said, well, what are you basing that on?

04:41:00.440 I said, absolutely nothing that you would acknowledge.

04:41:03.000 Nothing that you would respect or acknowledge.

04:41:04.960 But that's where the money is going to go.

04:41:06.340 And you've been pretty steady.

04:41:07.020 I mean, you have steadily – you know, you're the person I called up when I was in despair because you were constantly saying, I think Trump is going to win.

04:41:13.380 And, again, it's an open question.

04:41:15.880 I'm not –

04:41:16.060 Who knows?

04:41:16.420 Yeah.

04:41:16.600 But this is a repudiation of everything they believe.

04:41:19.900 You know, they won't admit it.

04:41:21.420 If Trump loses, they will not have to bite the bullet.

04:41:24.640 Yeah.

04:41:25.020 And they won't because they're living in an alternate reality because they're trying to sell that reality to us.

04:41:30.080 But, you know, this is a good thing for replacement media.

04:41:34.040 It does mean that people are going to start to say, you know, that Ben Shapiro, I thought he was a bad guy, but maybe he was actually telling the truth.

04:41:41.520 Have you ever – I mean, I –

04:41:43.360 I won't say that.

04:41:44.060 I say this only somewhat jokingly.

04:41:45.400 I know that we watch the big clips on the legacy media.

04:41:48.700 But have you ever sat there in recent years and watched like an hour of CNN?

04:41:53.600 Yes, an hour of –

04:41:54.300 Yes.

04:41:54.460 It is truly – I was actually scandalized by it because, you know, we were talking to Ron DeSantis earlier.

04:42:00.600 Governor Ron DeSantis, very nice guy, very intelligent guy, very serious man.

04:42:04.860 To watch the way that he is portrayed compared to St. Andrew Cuomo whose policies led directly to thousands of deaths in New York from coronavirus.

04:42:13.460 The policies were at fault.

04:42:15.060 To see how those are portrayed – if I only watched CNN like some of my friends and relatives, I would believe that as well.

04:42:22.060 So it seems to me that is maybe priority number one is you've got to crack that legacy media strangle.

04:42:28.020 The important thing is that the young Turks are completely melting down. 1.00

04:42:31.660 I hear a report that the young Turks are saying that, quote, many people of color hate themselves, which is good. 1.00

04:42:37.860 It's good when people learn no lessons from anything that happens in their life.

04:42:41.780 It's one of my favorite things.

04:42:42.760 It's like when they get hit in the face by a rake and then they immediately just jump right back on the rake. 0.97

04:42:47.220 It's like, okay, so you just basically said all black people should vote a certain way because you say Donald Trump is a racist. 0.97

04:42:52.500 And as long as you just keep proclaiming Republicans racist, black people will keep voting like that. 1.00

04:42:56.420 And Hispanics are all going to vote for you because you're going to call Donald Trump a racist. 0.95

04:42:59.340 Plus, you're going to talk about amnesty endlessly.

04:43:01.640 And suddenly all Hispanic people who mostly, believe it or not, came here legally are suddenly going to get on board with that.

04:43:07.720 And then if they don't vote like you want them to, you're just going to say they're white. 0.62

04:43:12.080 You're right.

04:43:12.600 Like that is your solution?

04:43:14.340 This is your solution?

04:43:15.880 Okay, guys.

04:43:16.520 The best they've got.

04:43:17.320 Go for it.

04:43:17.860 One of the things I tell my liberal friends, my few remaining liberal friends, is just for a couple of days in a row, read the New York Times op-ed page and read the Wall Street Journal op-ed page.

04:43:28.260 Not whether you agree with them, but the tone of thought, the level of thought.

04:43:32.700 Because the New York Times op-ed page is literally like being, literally, it's figuratively like being in a nursery with a bunch of people screaming.

04:43:40.300 Where the Wall Street Journal, they tend to trend right, but they discuss things at a very, very high level with very nuanced ideas.

04:43:47.420 You don't hear anybody's being called Hitler.

04:43:49.140 Nobody's being called.

04:43:49.700 But at some point, at some point, you start to say, well, I want to be with the adults.

04:43:53.820 Yes, of course.

04:43:54.620 And it's like an age gone by.

04:43:56.960 But speaking of a room full of people screaming, we do have to cut to our war room so that we can find out what is going on in the granular level.

04:44:04.360 Matt Walsh, thank you for being with us.

04:44:06.600 I'll see you over at the looting parade later on.

04:44:09.360 We turn now to our war room.

04:44:11.900 Guys, what is the latest?

04:44:13.320 What's going on?

04:44:15.240 I mean, what is going on?

04:44:16.740 Missouri has now been called for President Trump, and I'm going to talk to our very own Ian Howarth about this, editor here at The Daily Wire.

04:44:22.700 We've been in the war room.

04:44:24.660 We've been getting all the data.

04:44:26.260 We've been looking at the projections.

04:44:28.020 Tell us what is going on.

04:44:29.600 I mean, Missouri.

04:44:31.520 Yeah, Missouri was one of those that early on we were actually kind of worried about.

04:44:34.600 But the last couple of weeks, the polls have really trended in Trump's favor, so it's good to see him tick that box.

04:44:40.620 And we now have new data coming out of Ohio.

04:44:43.040 So Ohio is the really exciting one.

04:44:44.920 And so we've been watching that, getting pretty excited in there.

04:44:47.120 So 82 percent reporting right now.

04:44:49.120 Trump is up 6.2 percent.

04:44:50.980 So yet again, the polls seem to be off by over 5 percent, which is pretty shocking.

04:44:55.840 In terms of the difference between 2016 and 2020, it's interesting.

04:44:59.380 The gap is a little smaller.

04:45:00.600 There's like around 5 percent difference between Biden and Trump right now.

04:45:03.920 And Biden is doing well in like Columbus, Cleveland, as expected.

04:45:07.680 So it's not like we're waiting for a ton of votes to come in.

04:45:10.440 OK, you read my mind there, because my question is when it came to Georgia or Virginia or Pennsylvania and all these battleground states that we've been talking about and looking at the data,

04:45:18.680 I think everybody kind of wonders, we know that there's those metropolitan left-leaning bubbles and we don't want to call states or we don't want to get too optimistic because sometimes you can have an entire state that looks really red.

04:45:29.920 But where the votes, you know, count or not, they count everywhere, but where the metropolitan like population resides, it can skew to the left.

04:45:38.160 But you're saying in Ohio we're not at risk of that right now?

04:45:40.920 I wouldn't be quite that, you know, I want to hedge my bets a little bit.

04:45:44.960 He's British, guys.

04:45:45.600 He doesn't want to be that optimistic.

04:45:47.520 It's impossible genetically.

04:45:49.140 But like 82 percent reporting is a good look for Trump.

04:45:52.000 OK.

04:45:52.540 And we wanted to talk a little bit about the Senate races.

04:45:55.200 Ben, you touched on this briefly earlier and what the Senate was looking like in Arizona and North Carolina.

04:46:00.340 I've worked on campaigns.

04:46:01.340 Michael Knowles has worked on campaigns.

04:46:02.960 It's hellish.

04:46:03.440 Don't ever do it.

04:46:04.960 You are a data wonk.

04:46:06.700 And when we look at those presidential like kind of things coming in, typically lots of people go in, even sometimes P1 voters,

04:46:15.360 we'll re-talk about they vote the presidential race and they ignore things further down.

04:46:18.880 But if things are looking good for Democrats or Republicans, depending on what the Senate race is,

04:46:23.480 sometimes that can tell us what the up ballot is going to look like, right?

04:46:27.120 Yes.

04:46:27.440 I mean, firstly, thank you for calling me a data wonk.

04:46:29.480 That's something I can add to my resume.

04:46:30.840 That's very exciting.

04:46:31.500 So in terms of North Carolina, it's interesting because 89 percent reported Tillis ahead of Cunningham by 1.1 percent.

04:46:37.500 That kind of mirrors the presidential race a little bit.

04:46:41.020 Worrying for Trump with Arizona, though, if we assume that logic is true, 74 percent reported Kelly ahead of McSally by 10.3 percent.

04:46:48.200 So that's a definite worry.

04:46:49.240 A lot of the scenarios we talked about involved Arizona.

04:46:52.120 So we're going to have to do some restructuring of our math on that one.

04:46:56.320 Lastly, though, one interesting state to look at, Georgia, 54 percent reported.

04:47:00.740 Purdue ahead of Ossoff by 13.3 percent.

04:47:03.040 One delicious fact about Ossoff, I think, is he lost Georgia's sixth district house race in 2017 for an absolute ton of money.

04:47:09.800 He spent a ton of money this time.

04:47:11.120 So it's kind of deliciously funny when someone spends money twice and loses both times.

04:47:14.720 Well, it's not just him spending the money twice.

04:47:16.720 It's the National Democratic Party choosing to dump a lot of money into that race. 0.81

04:47:20.840 It looks like it didn't turn out for them in Georgia.

04:47:23.240 Definitely didn't work for them against Mitch McConnell in Kentucky.

04:47:26.800 So we'll be watching those races.

04:47:29.960 Sorry, just whenever I hear his name, I have to laugh.

04:47:32.100 We'll be watching those races across the country.

04:47:34.340 And another thing that is worrying, unfortunately, a lot of people projected this.

04:47:37.820 I made my grocery store and gun runs earlier this week in anticipation, unfortunately, of the potential for riots.

04:47:44.420 No matter how election night came down, no matter who won tonight.

04:47:49.020 And for an update on what is happening in Washington, D.C. and what we're seeing on social media, we have our very own Cassie Dillon.

04:47:54.520 Cassie, what do you have?

04:47:56.020 So right now in Portland, things are starting to heat up.

04:47:59.200 It seems that Black Lives Matter protesters are walking down the street.

04:48:02.340 Some of them are armed, and they are chanting black power. 0.64

04:48:04.660 So things are starting to heat up there, which is expected with that place.

04:48:08.340 But in Washington, D.C., things are really starting to get heated.

04:48:11.180 The protesters gathered in Black Lives Matter Plaza, and now they're starting to move further into the city around different neighborhoods.

04:48:18.120 So right here in this video, you can see police are arresting somebody.

04:48:21.540 They're on the ground.

04:48:22.880 And then the next video, it looks like a smoke bomb has gone off.

04:48:26.400 It's not tear gas.

04:48:27.200 Some sort of smoke bomb probably put out by an Antifa person.

04:48:30.920 And then in another video, you can see Antifa gearing up.

04:48:33.880 They're wearing these Halloween masks, which I actually bought for my Halloween costume.

04:48:37.280 But apparently, one woman's Halloween costume is also an Antifa person's riot gear. 1.00

04:48:41.940 So they're starting to gear up there, and some of them have bats, metal bats, and police are trying to disperse them.

04:48:48.200 So we're going to pay close attention to how the tension is rising throughout the night,

04:48:52.160 especially as President Trump is looking a lot better in the polls and a lot better in the results.

04:48:57.520 Thank you.

04:48:58.880 I appreciate that, Cassie.

04:49:00.580 And now we're going to get a bit back to Jeremy and all of the guys.

04:49:03.480 We promise the war room is still here, still working hard.

04:49:06.260 We'll be coming to you guys with more information as soon as we get it.

04:49:11.940 Thank you, Cassie and Alicia.

04:49:14.120 Cassie, you're very talented, but you're also very young.

04:49:17.220 And clearly, you don't recognize those right-wing provocateurs from Portland.

04:49:22.740 But we'll allow it for tonight.

04:49:24.420 We'll excuse it.

04:49:25.440 Fake news, but good work.

04:49:27.440 Listen.

04:49:28.400 Sorry, quick thing.

04:49:29.140 Please. 0.99

04:49:29.480 Can I just point out how full of crap the network news are? 0.98

04:49:32.620 They still have not called Florida. 0.99

04:49:34.180 Really?

04:49:34.640 Really?

04:49:34.980 No, of course.

04:49:35.720 They still have not called Florida.

04:49:36.640 Florida is almost 100% in.

04:49:38.240 There is no shot that Biden takes it.

04:49:39.900 It's been over for, when did we call it?

04:49:41.760 An hour and a half ago?

04:49:42.720 That's right.

04:49:43.020 Two hours ago?

04:49:44.080 Ron DeSantis is raging about it on Twitter, as well he should be, pointing out that if

04:49:48.600 this were Joe Biden winning Florida, they would have called this thing two hours ago.

04:49:51.980 He tweeted out, President Trump is up in Florida by almost 400,000 votes, with more than 90%

04:49:56.380 of precincts reporting.

04:49:57.440 Why haven't networks called the race?

04:49:58.660 It's a done deal.

04:49:59.520 The refusal to recognize the obvious speaks volumes about the lack of objectivity of these

04:50:02.680 outlets.

04:50:03.500 He's absolutely right.

04:50:04.360 And that's why we keep harping on it tonight, that the media cannot be redeemed.

04:50:08.800 The media cannot be reformed.

04:50:11.000 The media must be replaced.

04:50:12.680 And the only way to do that is to continue to grow organizations like the Daily Wire,

04:50:17.120 which is why I've been telling you, leaking out little information all night.

04:50:20.360 We told you we're starting a show with Candace Owens, who's moving to Nashville to join the 0.99

04:50:23.520 Daily Wire.

04:50:24.140 Told you that we're bringing the entire PragerU library to the Daily Wire.

04:50:28.100 We told you that we're launching a new morning show called The Morning Wire.

04:50:32.400 I'm also going to, I'm pleased to tell you that we are hiring three full-time investigative

04:50:36.620 journalists so that we can start doing the work that up until now, only the left has been

04:50:40.860 able to do.

04:50:41.740 Don't get cocky, kids.

04:50:43.160 The New York Times alone has 1,600 journalists, but we're going to take the steps that are in

04:50:47.300 front of us.

04:50:47.800 You know, the only way that you can eat the, is to start by, you know, whatever, man.

04:50:53.480 I don't know.

04:50:54.240 You got to start where you can start.

04:50:55.640 And where we're going to start is by, is small.

04:50:58.980 So we're going to start, we're going to keep putting one foot in front of another, and

04:51:01.580 we're getting out ahead even of our revenue.

04:51:03.600 We're asking you, if we take a leap on all of this content and we really go and try to

04:51:07.680 replace the media, we try to replace these institutions that despise us, you know, we're

04:51:12.280 confident that you will come along and start supporting us instead of supporting them.

04:51:17.460 Become a subscriber over at DailyWire.com.

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04:51:28.660 You can be a part of the solution, because, listen, we're all going to have to do whatever

04:51:32.760 we can if we're learning anything tonight, is that the media, which we all know went

04:51:37.040 all in for Donald Trump, did so dishonestly.

04:51:40.440 They did so with an agenda.

04:51:41.520 They lied to you constantly.

04:51:43.300 Let's replace them. 0.96

04:51:44.280 You know, can I say, I got to say something.

04:51:46.120 I've been talking for over 20 years about the culture and moving into the culture and

04:51:51.300 the fact that the right has abandoned the culture.

04:51:53.380 Yes. 0.97

04:51:53.600 And to sit here and to watch this clown actually do what I've been talking about is incredibly 0.97

04:51:59.200 moving to me. 0.95

04:52:00.100 And if you weren't you, I would actually appreciate it.

04:52:04.080 Her words were never true. 1.00

04:52:05.420 I would actually give you a big wet kiss on your ugly head, because you're doing an amazing 1.00

04:52:10.700 thing. 0.99

04:52:11.060 Seriously, pal, you're doing an amazing thing that has been waiting to be done, but it took

04:52:15.700 vision and it took balls.

04:52:17.880 It took courage.

04:52:18.980 And I think that it's just listening.

04:52:21.240 You wouldn't tell me what your announcements were before we came on, and I guessed a couple

04:52:24.860 of them, but still, still, you're doing exactly what needs to be done.

04:52:28.660 And that's a beautiful, beautiful thing.

04:52:30.460 And I actually may be nice to you for, I don't know, 20 minutes.

04:52:33.360 Well, not only is that the nicest thing you've ever said to me, it's the only nice thing

04:52:36.960 you've ever said to me.

04:52:37.340 I hope so.

04:52:38.240 I like to think about that.

04:52:39.380 The bar was low.

04:52:41.180 Well, I just, your botched idiom did make me think of another botched idiom, which is

04:52:45.800 very famously, fool me once, shame on you.

04:52:49.540 Fool me twice, the point is, you ain't going to fool me again.

04:52:54.000 And the legacy media has fooled us more than once, but certainly in 2016.

04:52:58.400 And it looks like they fooled us again.

04:52:59.980 And so it is just from, I'm, I'm very excited too, about everything that's going on at Daily

04:53:04.520 Wire right now.

04:53:05.720 But, but even if that weren't going on, there, there, there would have to be something because

04:53:10.520 there is no, no matter what happens tonight, there is no credibility left for that old

04:53:15.740 ossified institution.

04:53:16.580 It's inflamed.

04:53:17.580 The important thing is that I think that we can all recognize that Joe Biden really brought

04:53:21.400 the front of the management of Prusher.

04:53:22.760 He did.

04:53:26.440 It's about time.

04:53:27.400 Can we talk for a second?

04:53:28.300 We haven't mentioned his name all night, even though he might be the president.

04:53:31.720 Joe Biden is a complete non-entity.

04:53:33.260 Yeah, of course.

04:53:33.760 He's just a non-entity.

04:53:34.920 Like no one gives two good dams about Joe Biden or anything happening to Joe Biden.

04:53:40.360 You said, I think in your video about which, which, by the way, I want to congratulate you

04:53:43.920 on your, why you're voting for Trump video.

04:53:45.360 It was one of the most honest, one of the most honest reflections that I've seen anyone

04:53:51.380 in media give.

04:53:52.040 It's very hard to ever be critical of your former position.

04:53:54.520 No, you're wrong, you're wrong.

04:53:55.300 I mean, yeah, that's right.

04:53:56.880 But one of the things you said in that video is that Joe Biden is like a cardboard mask being

04:54:02.540 worn by the radical left.

04:54:04.300 And I think that's exactly right.

04:54:05.220 The reason we don't talk about him is because Joe Biden doesn't matter in the election at

04:54:08.900 all.

04:54:09.300 You and I had the opportunity been in the, in the West Wing to meet with Jared and Ivanka

04:54:13.760 and we met with them separately, which I always think is an important part of the conversation.

04:54:17.740 One day we went to the West Wing and we met with Ivanka Trump.

04:54:20.600 The following day we went to the West Wing and had breakfast with Jared Kushner.

04:54:25.000 And that was three years ago.

04:54:27.120 And in that meeting, we told them it's Biden.

04:54:29.920 The biggest threat to the president is Biden.

04:54:32.640 And they said, no, Biden, he's old.

04:54:34.940 He's has been.

04:54:35.560 He's a non-entity.

04:54:36.260 It's going to be Bernie or it's going to be Warren.

04:54:37.880 And we said, no, it's Biden.

04:54:39.360 And the reason that you should take him seriously, the reason he is a genuine threat is

04:54:43.680 also the reason you don't even think about him.

04:54:46.040 He's not on your mind at all.

04:54:47.700 That is what Biden brought to this race.

04:54:49.800 Biden is nothing.

04:54:51.960 And the argument, the pitch of the left is if you hate all this chaos, the violence in 0.94

04:54:57.500 the street, the masks, the lockdowns, the dying, the crazy Trump rallies, the crazy won't 0.98

04:55:04.320 condemn white supremacy at least 17 times a day. 0.99

04:55:07.060 If you hate all of that, we could just go back to nothing.

04:55:11.160 Yeah.

04:55:11.260 You don't have to have any opinion of Joe Biden.

04:55:13.460 That's his actual strength.

04:55:14.920 It may actually be enough to carry the day.

04:55:16.760 Listen, Trump's having a wonderful night.

04:55:19.840 I think no matter what happens, the pollsters were actually wrong.

04:55:24.080 They were actually wrong in this election in a way that they weren't even wrong in the

04:55:28.120 2016 election.

04:55:29.220 And that's even if Biden manages to pull this out at this point.

04:55:31.980 There is still a chance that Joe Biden could be president on a platform of nothing, a nothing

04:55:36.980 man on a platform of nothing who held no events and stayed at home in his basement, held no

04:55:42.120 press conferences, could win because because his that is his actual value in this moment.

04:55:49.040 You know, I was at a Jesse Lee Peterson town hall last week, which I always enjoy doing.

04:55:54.920 And one of the guys there was this very far left guy who calls himself destiny.

04:55:59.660 And he's on YouTube.

04:56:01.000 And I don't want to rag on the guy because he showed up at this very, very right wing event.

04:56:06.340 And I admired him and respected him for that.

04:56:08.620 But he was talking about Joe Biden in these glowing terms.

04:56:15.000 And it reminded me of the people that even even Knowles has held at arm's length who sit

04:56:20.420 around and talk about, oh, Trump is a pious, you know, godly man who's doing, you know,

04:56:25.500 the people we say, well, no, that's not what's going on.

04:56:28.440 He was that guy for Biden.

04:56:29.760 And I thought there are people who are just willing to jump into that ship who he was saying,

04:56:34.880 oh, Joe Biden's going to bring back the rule of law.

04:56:36.740 I thought, yeah, it's going to be Chinese law, but, you know, never mind. 0.51

04:56:42.020 And I thought it was amazing, amazing what people will believe if they think they can

04:56:47.360 get what they want out of it.

04:56:48.440 And I think he believed it.

04:56:49.720 I don't think he was lying.

04:56:50.580 I thought he believed it.

04:56:51.060 Well, you know, we always talk about Biden's best pitch as a return to normalcy.

04:56:55.240 I think the Biden campaign is making that pitch, but it's a return to normalcy.

04:56:58.480 The thing is, something about normal was wrong.

04:57:02.900 The reason that Donald Trump won the nomination, the reason he won the general election,

04:57:06.220 is because normal was wrong.

04:57:08.740 By the way, the looting that we're having, the arson, the tearing down of the rule of law,

04:57:14.100 the threats to the judiciary and the constitution, that is all part of normal.

04:57:17.660 It's the party of normal that's doing that, right?

04:57:19.460 It's the party that's promising us normal.

04:57:21.000 And so I just think we are trapped in this system of what normal was,

04:57:25.540 obviously in the media and technology and politics and bureaucracy and all of that.

04:57:29.440 And the wise people have pulled themselves out of it and said, wait a second, this normal thing,

04:57:35.420 it's not the mainstream anymore.

04:57:36.760 This is not representing what people want.

04:57:38.800 This is not representing reality.

04:57:40.660 And, you know, you said it very wisely last time.

04:57:44.220 I can't believe there's one wise thing you've ever said.

04:57:46.940 You were drunk.

04:57:47.840 It was a bottle talking.

04:57:48.820 It was dark, yeah.

04:57:49.260 But you said, I don't know if Donald Trump is the beginning of something,

04:57:53.000 but he is the end of something.

04:57:54.520 He is marking the end of some era that has run its course.

04:57:58.540 And who knows what comes next?

04:58:00.000 That remains to be seen.

04:58:01.200 But whatever was coming before it, that does seem to be over.

04:58:04.560 It wasn't the people's normal.

04:58:05.900 It was the elite's normal.

04:58:07.180 And the thing about it is, is until they actually form a global coalition that can crush the American people,

04:58:14.200 they're not as far ahead as they think they are.

04:58:16.280 And they thought, after 2012, that they had formed an unbeatable coalition.

04:58:20.960 Yep.

04:58:21.520 A coalition that could not be defeated, right?

04:58:24.300 That that coalition would win for all time.

04:58:26.820 And then Trump won.

04:58:28.240 And their assumption was that that was a transitory moment.

04:58:30.260 And it was brought about by a bunch of extraneous factors,

04:58:32.660 ranging from Russian interference to the predations of Mark Zuckerberg and Facebook. 0.99

04:58:36.720 And it turns out, nope, all that crap was real. 0.94

04:58:39.640 And the real, honestly, I think there's a big question for the Democrats here. 0.97

04:58:43.560 But the big question for the Democrats is that if they win narrowly or if they lose narrowly, either way,

04:58:52.940 are they going to turn further to the left or do they learn a lesson?

04:58:56.300 Because let's say that Biden wins, but he wins very, very narrowly.

04:58:59.180 Does he turn to his woke left and say, you guys got to go because you almost cost me this election?

04:59:03.980 Or does he say to them, I need you that much more because I have this slim a majority?

04:59:07.960 And if he loses, does the Democratic Party say he lost because we rioted in the cities and because of COVID and because of a bunch of other factors?

04:59:16.980 Or are they going to say we lost because we didn't skew far enough to the left and we need to attack to the Bernie Sanders, Ilhan Omar left?

04:59:24.460 And I don't know the answer to that question.

04:59:25.980 I don't think they know the answer to that question yet.

04:59:27.580 But the best organized group in the aftermath of chaos usually is the one that wins.

04:59:30.560 You know, AOC has easily won her district again. 1.00

04:59:35.120 And I think it's really it makes you thankful that the Electoral College is in the Constitution.

04:59:41.600 That's right.

04:59:41.980 That it has to be gotten rid of by constitutional amendment.

04:59:44.260 They can't just vote it out like like the Supreme Court, which they can do.

04:59:47.940 And because I think there's these pockets of leftism, but that's not what the country is about.

04:59:54.040 Still, I don't think it's about this in Manhattan.

04:59:56.700 I don't think it's about this in parts of Brooklyn, the heart of darkness.

05:00:00.840 I think it's about these pockets of belief in this system.

05:00:06.820 The thing about socialism is it's the oldest system in the world.

05:00:11.380 The only thing that is new in politics is the idea that freedom should reign, that individuals should reign.

05:00:16.920 Socialism is essentially the value system of Cain, right?

05:00:23.700 Yeah.

05:00:25.140 Certainly a feral, you know.

05:00:26.460 Well, if you did something, that something had value, I want that something.

05:00:32.420 Yeah, I think it's even further than that.

05:00:34.140 Whitaker Chambers, you know, the great ex-communist, he wrote Witness.

05:00:36.900 One of the guys who brought Ronald Reagan over to the right.

05:00:39.800 He said, people think of socialism and communism as this 150-year-old idea.

05:00:44.640 It's the second oldest religion in the world.

05:00:46.620 It began when the serpent in the garden said, ye shall be as gods.

05:00:50.000 It's a gospel of envy, you know, as Winston Churchill called it.

05:00:55.200 And, you know, the sad thing is it's not new, but it's also not going to go away.

05:00:59.280 It's going to crop up in various forms again and again.

05:01:01.880 And we have to beat it.

05:01:02.800 Is this woman, what's her name, from the 1619th century? 0.88

05:01:08.940 Yeah, and Nicole Hannah-Jones, she's a nut, yeah. 1.00

05:01:10.720 One day after this election is over, I am going to write a piece about how Latino is a contrived 1.00

05:01:15.020 ethnic category that artificially lumps white Cubans with black Puerto Ricans and indigenous

05:01:20.280 Guatemalans and helps explain why Latinos support Trump at the second highest rate.

05:01:25.520 So what is a contrived category?

05:01:27.040 Let's go win another Pulitzer Prize.

05:01:28.480 Listen, back with us right now, we have our friend, Governor Ron DeSantis of the great

05:01:33.720 state of Florida.

05:01:34.560 Governor, what on earth is happening in your state?

05:01:36.640 Why haven't they called it?

05:01:38.960 Well, I think it speaks more about their bias than any of the facts.

05:01:43.140 I think if Biden won every vote outstanding, he still couldn't win.

05:01:46.520 The president's got a 400,000 vote margin.

05:01:49.520 Wow.

05:01:49.660 Not only that, we flipped two, took out two Democrat U.S. congressmen in Southern Florida.

05:01:55.800 Wow.

05:01:56.060 Two flips there. 0.93

05:01:56.940 We had Eric Holder spend $15 million to try to flip the state house in Florida, and we

05:02:03.240 gained five seats.

05:02:04.620 Wow.

05:02:04.940 We're likely to have gained a seat in the state Senate.

05:02:07.100 So, I mean, this is up and down the ballot.

05:02:09.640 This is, you know, great performance for Republicans.

05:02:13.020 And the fact that you have these networks, some of whom called Virginia before a single

05:02:17.640 vote was counted, still not being willing to call Florida when the die is completely cast.

05:02:23.220 There is no doubt about this.

05:02:25.140 I think it's really frustrating.

05:02:26.620 I think people have a right to be upset.

05:02:28.580 And quite frankly, you know, you guys are probably getting more viewers leaving Fox and coming

05:02:32.740 to watch you guys.

05:02:33.580 So it's probably good for you.

05:02:35.000 So you're saying it's not just a red mirage, as they've been trying to warn us about all

05:02:39.820 day.

05:02:40.100 But Florida is solidly going for Donald Trump.

05:02:43.540 Oh, yeah.

05:02:43.900 No, for sure.

05:02:44.460 I mean, he won by 115,000 votes in 16.

05:02:47.680 He's tripled that margin at a minimum.

05:02:50.160 And remember, CNN, NBC, all these polls said he's going to lose by five to seven points.

05:02:56.780 Same old stuff.

05:02:57.920 Year after year.

05:02:58.760 They haven't got an election right since 2012.

05:03:01.820 And yet we kind of do this all the time.

05:03:04.080 So at some point, there should be a reckoning for this political media complex, putting out

05:03:10.620 their phony polls, doing their bogus analysis and maybe hold somebody accountable for it,

05:03:16.360 because it's one thing to miss one.

05:03:17.880 But when you consistently miss in the same direction every time, you know, we think that

05:03:23.300 there's an agenda at play there.

05:03:24.980 And Governor DeSantis, worthy of noting that one of the factors in Florida that continues

05:03:29.120 to be a big win for Republicans in that state is the increasing share of the Latino vote.

05:03:33.540 It is being one prompting Nicole Hannah-Jones to, of course, declare that Latinos are now 0.93

05:03:36.680 white, which is exciting stuff.

05:03:38.100 And that apparently is holding true across the country.

05:03:41.100 Star County, Texas, is the most Latino county in the United States.

05:03:43.600 It is 96 percent Latino.

05:03:44.900 It went for Joe Biden by a margin of 52 to 47.

05:03:47.880 So we are watching a historic realignment among Hispanic and Latino voters across the

05:03:52.440 country.

05:03:52.780 What do you make for that?

05:03:53.460 And what do you make for that in terms of the future of the Republican Party?

05:03:55.960 I mean, Florida may be what the future of the Republican Party looks like.

05:03:59.400 Well, I think there's two two things come to mind.

05:04:01.940 One kind of a larger issue of the Democrats going so far left, left on cultural issues,

05:04:08.840 left on religion, against religion, anti-American in many respects in terms of some of the

05:04:14.940 causes they've embraced.

05:04:16.580 And then I also think more specifically, Biden was the lockdown candidate.

05:04:21.660 OK, locking down, stopping businesses, closing schools, that hurts blue collar folks.

05:04:27.380 Obviously, Hispanics are a big portion of that.

05:04:30.040 It's not limited to that.

05:04:31.520 But I think when he's talking about a dark winter saying we can't have school, he was

05:04:35.520 literally did a video saying someday we will be able to have friends over to our house

05:04:41.160 and go to the movies and have kids in school.

05:04:43.040 So I'm thinking to myself, in Florida, we've been doing this for months and what are you

05:04:46.500 talking about?

05:04:47.800 But I think it really spooked people because it's, you know, the media, they like lockdown.

05:04:52.720 So Biden thinks, I think, thought that was popular.

05:04:55.420 I think it worked against them in southern Florida in particular.

05:04:59.480 As I mentioned, I think I mentioned earlier, you know, we have every county in Florida has

05:05:02.880 school, in person, and that's just so important for working class people.

05:05:07.360 But I do think you are seeing a realignment.

05:05:10.400 This is more of the working class base.

05:05:13.680 It's a more populous base for the Republicans, somewhat similar to Reagan and Nixon in 72.

05:05:19.900 But I think it may be, in some respects, more durable because I think it does cross racial

05:05:25.360 and ethnic lines more so than we had it there.

05:05:28.120 If you notice in Dade County, obviously he did very well with Hispanics.

05:05:32.360 But some of the African-American precincts, you see movement.

05:05:35.880 It ain't winning a majority.

05:05:37.720 But if you win 15 percent and you keep building off that, even if it's a percent a year,

05:05:42.760 that hurts the Democrats.

05:05:44.280 They can't find those votes anywhere else.

05:05:46.660 And so I think that, you know, it's interesting.

05:05:49.200 Donald Trump was viewed when he ran in 16 by the media as a racist.

05:05:52.520 And they kept saying that they always said it.

05:05:55.080 And yet here he has more than any Republican president

05:05:57.920 brought in people from all walks of life into the Republican fold.

05:06:02.540 Governor DeSantis, they're talking a lot about, you know, the sort of shifting image of the

05:06:06.380 Republican Party that when Mitt Romney ran in 2012, this was a college educated,

05:06:10.760 largely white party.

05:06:11.940 A lot of talk now about the idea of a multiracial and working class party, as opposed to,

05:06:18.640 you know, what the Republican Party was largely perceived as the party for the rich and white.

05:06:21.980 What do you make of that?

05:06:23.440 And what does this say about the future of the Republican Party, whether Trump ends up

05:06:26.460 winning or ends up losing?

05:06:27.740 The polls have been dramatically wrong here.

05:06:29.420 And there is no shot that this thing is anything but a very nail-biting close election.

05:06:34.360 Well, I think, I mean, a lot of the upper income areas vote Democrat now.

05:06:38.260 I mean, we see that the areas around Washington, D.C., the most affluent counties in the country

05:06:43.740 are all heavily Democrat.

05:06:45.540 Obviously, the New York City suburbs and whatnot.

05:06:48.000 And then I think you get into those exurbs in the rural areas, and man, Trump is blowing

05:06:53.660 off the doors.

05:06:54.960 Now, part of that, I think, you know, there's going to be an economic component that Republicans,

05:06:59.540 you know, are going to need to tend to.

05:07:01.920 And if you notice what Nancy Pelosi wanted to do, she wanted to put the SALT deduction back

05:07:06.400 in.

05:07:06.640 That's a tax cut for the rich.

05:07:08.520 Right.

05:07:08.760 And so it's interesting how those dynamics work out.

05:07:10.800 But I also think just on these core issues of patriotism, culture, and I do think the

05:07:16.960 lockdowns, being against the lockdowns, I think that that really connects.

05:07:21.200 And I think Trump is somebody, I think he was able to do this to a certain extent, because,

05:07:25.760 you know, I think I told the president the other day this.

05:07:28.440 It's like, Mr. President, if someone had asked me when I was 10 years old, who's a rich guy,

05:07:32.400 I would have said Donald Trump.

05:07:33.900 Like, he was just so known by everybody.

05:07:35.940 So people in my generation, in their 30s and 40s and 50s, we grew up with Trump.

05:07:41.080 We knew him.

05:07:41.820 He's not just a politician.

05:07:44.140 And so I think now that he's in politics, people have a different frame of reference.

05:07:48.660 And so I think it appeals to folks beyond the typical Republican folk.

05:07:52.900 It obviously repels some of the more upper class who consider themselves so highly educated

05:07:58.540 and whatnot and the more elites.

05:08:00.620 But I think he has a real strong connection with kind of the heart of the country.

05:08:05.100 And look, he's won Florida, he's won North Carolina, he's won Georgia, he's won Ohio.

05:08:10.660 So now we're at the point where, you know, if he wins Arizona, and I think the election

05:08:15.140 day vote is going to be two or three to one for him.

05:08:17.120 So I think he still has a good chance of that.

05:08:18.780 You know, he's one state away, just like we had anticipated.

05:08:22.680 And all the media, you know, it wasn't a question of Biden winning.

05:08:26.460 It was, could this be a Reagan-esque landslide?

05:08:28.520 They were talking about 400 plus electoral votes.

05:08:31.100 They were talking about a 10-point margin in the electoral college.

05:08:35.200 That ain't going to happen.

05:08:36.340 Governor, you make such a great point here on the frame of reference, because the media,

05:08:41.180 they play the same old story every time. 1.00

05:08:43.420 Whoever the Republican is, he's a racist, he's a sexist, he's a bigot. 1.00

05:08:46.640 And then when it's Donald Trump, you say, wait a second, I know Donald Trump. 1.00

05:08:49.220 I know that he's none of those things.

05:08:51.240 And so it makes you question the media.

05:08:53.080 But when we don't have a nominee who is a billionaire TV star that we've all known for 30 years,

05:08:59.980 when we have someone who's a little more in the usual line of political nominees,

05:09:04.480 do you think that that will be able to carry over, that voters will remember?

05:09:09.060 Wait a second, the media do lie about these guys.

05:09:11.500 They don't tell the full story.

05:09:12.660 Or do you think their power is going to creep back in when you don't have this unique type

05:09:16.880 of Donald Trump candidate?

05:09:19.100 Well, I think it's a choice.

05:09:20.520 Do we build off what the president's done?

05:09:23.080 I can tell you, since I've been governor, you know, I've tried to do that.

05:09:26.840 I mean, you know, we have places in Florida, for example, Gadsden County up here in North

05:09:31.080 Florida, the most heavily African-American county.

05:09:33.960 You know, I show up in Gadsden County and work with the local officials.

05:09:37.560 We work on different issues together.

05:09:39.800 I mean, they're probably 100 percent Democrat, but we work together on common issues.

05:09:44.780 And I think showing up and letting people know that you care, that goes an awful long way.

05:09:51.040 And once you show up and they see you and they know you and they talk to you, not all of them

05:09:56.100 may end up voting for you.

05:09:57.380 But, man, it's sure hard for them to accept a caricature that the media is going to try

05:10:01.480 to do at some point, you know, in the future.

05:10:03.800 And so, you know, some of my strongest Democrat allies in the legislature are African-Americans,

05:10:10.280 representatives.

05:10:11.200 I mean, we work with them.

05:10:12.160 They help pass school choice for us.

05:10:13.960 They support us on we did a parental consent for abortion for minors and they were lining 1.00

05:10:19.880 up with us.

05:10:20.640 And so, you know, there are a lot of issues that that we can work together on.

05:10:25.480 So you just got to be willing to show up and you got to be willing to make the case.

05:10:29.060 And I think for so long, Republicans have said, well, we're going to lose 90 percent.

05:10:33.460 So why even bother?

05:10:34.600 But you know what?

05:10:35.300 If you lose 85 to 15, that does matter. 0.57

05:10:39.960 And I think what Trump showed in Florida was in these Democrat counties in southern

05:10:43.580 Florida, he didn't win Dade.

05:10:45.380 He didn't win Broward.

05:10:46.340 He didn't win Palm Beach.

05:10:47.480 But he did better than he did in 16.

05:10:49.760 And that probably was 150,000 votes in those three counties improvement in terms of his

05:10:55.340 margin.

05:10:55.900 And so I think it was really good.

05:10:57.300 And, you know, in Florida, we have a good opportunity for this because, you know, not

05:11:00.860 only do we have all not just this.

05:11:03.220 I mean, these are Hispanics from all over Latin America, Cuba, Venezuela, Nicaragua, you name

05:11:07.940 it.

05:11:08.120 We also have a strong African-American community, but also includes the Caribbean Americans.

05:11:13.920 I tried to put the first Jamaican American on our state Supreme Court.

05:11:18.200 We had some litigation in that, so it didn't quite work out.

05:11:20.840 But I mean, you have Haitians, you have Jamaicans, you've got a lot of stuff down here.

05:11:25.020 And my sense is, is that, you know, we have a chance to make inroads if we keep showing

05:11:29.800 up.

05:11:30.520 Governor DeSantis, I think you also personally deserve a fair bit of credit.

05:11:33.700 You took an enormous amount of flack from the media for months.

05:11:36.040 You were there whipping post on everything COVID related.

05:11:38.760 You were the guy who blew it, even though you were the only person who was actually looking

05:11:41.320 at the data and trotting out rational policy.

05:11:43.720 And the voters of Florida, this has to be taken at least in part as a referendum on your

05:11:47.900 governorship.

05:11:48.500 I mean, the fact is that it's not just that Trump won the state going away.

05:11:51.840 It's also that a couple of congressional districts that were not supposed to shift Republican

05:11:55.320 did, in fact, shift Republican, including a likely Democratic district that was shifting

05:11:58.920 Republican.

05:11:59.780 Republicans pick up a couple of seats.

05:12:01.360 They went Florida 15, Florida 18, Florida 26, Florida 27.

05:12:04.620 And frankly, I think that a lot of that has to do with the fact that the people of Florida

05:12:08.160 just don't believe the media's lies about you and the way that you've handled an issue

05:12:12.720 like COVID.

05:12:13.780 I mean, I understand now, and the fact is that that's the way it is.

05:12:16.660 And, you know, we we did two things that we focused on.

05:12:21.200 One was voter registration.

05:12:22.700 So we went into 2020, 200,000 more Republicans vis-a-vis the Democrats than in 16.

05:12:29.500 And, you know, we had to put, you know, a lot of money into that.

05:12:32.100 But I think that that was good.

05:12:33.300 And then I think also the registration increases because people move here because they want

05:12:38.240 to be governed in a better way than some of these really liberal states.

05:12:42.440 And I do think that the, you know, once you push to have society open, people don't want

05:12:48.880 to go back to that.

05:12:49.720 Ben, I know the media wants to shut everything down and you could probably fashion a poll

05:12:54.180 that will say people want everything shut down, but that's not how they behave and they

05:12:58.680 want to be able to live their lives.

05:13:00.300 And we've given them that opportunity.

05:13:01.760 The average American is not rich enough for the shutdowns.

05:13:04.600 The most disgusting thing about these shutdowns, in my estimation, is that the people who call

05:13:09.380 for them, the political elite, the media elite, these are all people who can work from home,

05:13:15.220 who can continue to make six figure and higher incomes working from their homes.

05:13:21.360 And then they act as though they're the champions of people who need to go to work, who put bread

05:13:26.080 on the table for their family.

05:13:27.700 It's a disgusting thing they've done.

05:13:29.360 Thank you, Governor DeSantis, for standing against it.

05:13:31.500 And thanks for being with us again tonight.

05:13:34.860 Thank you.

05:13:35.440 One thing I would just add to that, you actually have people who support closing schools who

05:13:41.060 turn around and send their kids to private, in-person education.

05:13:45.620 That is a disgrace.

05:13:46.940 You must be talking about our governor.

05:13:49.660 You didn't say it, we did.

05:13:51.840 Thank you, Governor.

05:13:53.680 God bless.

05:13:54.580 Thank you.

05:13:55.280 God bless you.

05:13:56.180 I think that on that note, after wrapping with the governor of Florida, we should turn to

05:14:00.900 our Daily Wire war room and see what's happening in the state of Florida, one of the most important

05:14:05.120 states in the country, Elisha.

05:14:10.460 You know, Jeremy, you've been talking a lot tonight about that legacy media, and legacy

05:14:13.800 media seems very afraid to call Florida, and the governor there rightfully calling them 0.99

05:14:18.540 out.

05:14:18.960 So we're going to do something that we've never done before in Daily Wire history.

05:14:22.380 We've got the editor-in-chief, John Bickley, right here.

05:14:24.700 Bickley, what are we doing?

05:14:26.140 We're doing something very fun for me as a Florida boy.

05:14:28.460 We're calling Florida for Trump.

05:14:30.580 So let's look at it.

05:14:31.640 This is an easy one.

05:14:33.900 And why is it easy here?

05:14:35.480 We've got over 95% reporting.

05:14:37.880 He's up by 3%.

05:14:38.800 He's got, there's no way that Trump loses this.

05:14:41.240 It's actually, it is absurd that it's not been called, just like the governor was saying.

05:14:45.320 What that does, if we look at the electoral map here, is we see a lot of winds building

05:14:50.480 for Trump.

05:14:51.140 Okay.

05:14:51.420 So we're going to look at the electoral map.

05:14:53.020 We want to see where the tally is.

05:14:54.460 We have this tally of Joe Biden at 209, Donald Trump at 141.

05:14:58.720 This is where we sit right now with all of the states that have been called by the Daily

05:15:02.720 Wire and members of the mainstream media.

05:15:05.720 Tell me what's happening in Georgia and North Carolina.

05:15:09.860 Yeah.

05:15:10.040 So we're seeing him build this heartland, deep red base here.

05:15:15.420 Georgia, North Carolina, like we said, trending his direction, almost positively going to win

05:15:19.620 those Ohio.

05:15:20.900 He just keeps pulling away more and more in Ohio, an absolutely pivotal state.

05:15:25.060 He's doing well there.

05:15:26.240 Pennsylvania is still too far off.

05:15:28.900 We can't tell.

05:15:30.200 One of the things that's developing, though, that's not great for Trump is that Arizona

05:15:33.240 is looking bad for him.

05:15:34.520 Okay.

05:15:34.720 So if Arizona is looking bad, but he can pull out a win in those states that you just mentioned,

05:15:40.220 we're going to look at a potential pathway to victory.

05:15:43.200 What does that pathway to victory look like in this scenario of Donald Trump and Mike Pence

05:15:48.520 losing Arizona?

05:15:49.720 So when we did our initial analysis, actually, our number two scenario was him losing Arizona.

05:15:54.700 We thought there was a chance that would happen.

05:15:56.840 If that does happen, how does he make up for it?

05:15:58.940 There's actually an easy way to make up for it.

05:16:00.900 Okay.

05:16:01.100 Iowa has always been something that was very attainable for him.

05:16:05.160 We think he's going to get Iowa.

05:16:06.980 All he needs then is to make up for the deficit there, which is really only a few points.

05:16:11.220 He could pick up Nevada if he picks up one of these states here, like Wisconsin, which

05:16:15.960 is actually he's turning well in, far beyond expectations.

05:16:20.340 He was way behind in polling in that.

05:16:22.560 There's some hope there.

05:16:23.720 So there is a way that he could win still.

05:16:25.960 Again, this scenario, which we thought was by polling data, the most likely would give him

05:16:30.380 273 in the win.

05:16:31.600 Okay.

05:16:32.040 And I mean, Ben talked about earlier, there's a fear that could we be at 269, 269?

05:16:37.160 This is you guys laying this out.

05:16:38.600 And I have to tell the audience, and giving credit to the war room and all of the editors

05:16:43.260 and everybody gathering information here at the Daily Wire, we're not just copying and

05:16:47.440 pasting what other politicos are saying on social media and on television.

05:16:51.260 These guys have worked really hard.

05:16:53.400 These guys have been crunching the numbers.

05:16:55.820 And this is why we have all of these scenarios kind of laid out of what Trump's pathway to

05:17:00.720 victory is going to be and why we're not rushing to call balls and strikes here, in the words

05:17:05.120 of Ben Shapiro, we really want to make sure that we're giving everybody the right information

05:17:09.880 when we get it.

05:17:11.280 And revealing that, once again, like 2016, win-lose or draw tonight, polling wasn't 100%

05:17:18.840 accurate.

05:17:19.940 Right.

05:17:20.880 The gap here in Florida is like a 3% gap.

05:17:25.520 Yeah.

05:17:26.140 Some of the other states, it's looking like a 5% miss by pollsters.

05:17:30.200 This is a devastating, another devastating night for pollsters.

05:17:32.680 No matter what happens the rest of the night, it's already devastating for them.

05:17:37.040 And again, we've heard a very consistent narrative.

05:17:39.820 And it's a sort of a depression of the Republican vote.

05:17:44.980 And I think that's why they're not calling Florida.

05:17:47.540 I think it's pretty obvious.

05:17:49.840 We need to call what's happening and seeing how it develops.

05:17:52.920 This is what's happening.

05:17:53.720 There is a trend here.

05:17:54.600 It's a good trend for Trump.

05:17:55.960 It's not that he's cleared out for the rest of the victory.

05:17:59.980 He's got a battle.

05:18:00.920 But it's looking good.

05:18:02.760 I, earlier in the day, had the final countdown in my head.

05:18:05.700 And now I need to come up with a new theme song because it looks like we could be here

05:18:08.920 for a while.

05:18:10.420 Right.

05:18:10.640 But the only reason that we are able to be here is because of our amazing Daily Wire members.

05:18:14.900 So I wanted to give you guys some questions from them.

05:18:17.340 This question goes to Andrew Clavin.

05:18:20.040 Historically, have presidential elections given any indication of gubernatorial races?

05:18:24.340 For example, I and many in my social circle would very much like to see the governor

05:18:29.460 of Pennsylvania deposed.

05:18:32.020 What do you think, Drew?

05:18:33.480 The presidential actions have an effect on gubernatorial races.

05:18:38.740 So in other words, during the Obama administration, you saw state Democrats wiped out.

05:18:45.520 People liked Obama.

05:18:47.020 He was appealing to them.

05:18:48.780 They thought he was a good guy.

05:18:49.860 But they didn't like his policies.

05:18:51.740 And they registered that by voting for Obama, but voting against everybody else.

05:18:57.040 And I think also, you know, politics is local at that level.

05:19:00.740 You know, I mean, that is that is local politics.

05:19:03.000 And some of the things that are happening in the state may not be reflected in the national

05:19:07.740 average.

05:19:08.120 I think that if Trump listen, if Trump wins this, if Trump wins this, it's the end of

05:19:15.480 identity politics.

05:19:16.880 I genuinely believe that I think that the identity politics is what the socialists use to replace

05:19:23.100 class politics.

05:19:24.020 Yeah, because in America, we don't really have class warfare, but we do have racial tension.

05:19:29.460 And so they use racial tension where they used to use class politics.

05:19:32.140 If Trump wins this, that strategy has failed.

05:19:36.700 And that is going to have an effect on every single race in the country for a long time

05:19:41.040 to come, because they have not got really anything else.

05:19:43.760 We don't have class.

05:19:45.120 We don't have class battles here in the way they do in other countries.

05:19:48.460 And are I believe I personally believe and have said this repeatedly that the the racial

05:19:55.840 panic that is going on is a panic about the fact that blacks are now accepted as part

05:20:02.020 of America wasn't always true.

05:20:03.420 I grew up in a bad time for this, but it has definitely become true. 0.95

05:20:07.240 The path to assimilation, to becoming part of America and accepted part of America is 0.89

05:20:11.640 wide open.

05:20:12.440 And that's why this kind of panic has started, this kind of violent panic. 0.91

05:20:17.780 If that goes away, if blacks reject that, if Latinos reject that, that's going to have 1.00

05:20:22.400 an effect on every state in the nation.

05:20:24.600 And so you're never going to have class politics here, class warfare, right, because we don't

05:20:29.080 have classes.

05:20:29.440 You're not you may not have racial warfare and you'll never have a war between the sexes

05:20:34.120 because, of course, everybody's sleeping with the enemy.

05:20:36.400 So then you have to wonder, what do you move to next?

05:20:40.140 And it seems like they've run out of options.

05:20:42.200 It will be true. 0.52

05:20:43.620 If this identity politics falls apart, they are going to have to come up with they will

05:20:47.600 come up with a new strategy.

05:20:48.580 I don't know what it is, but but it doesn't matter because this is it.

05:20:51.980 I don't know if they can let it go that easily.

05:20:53.400 Sorry.

05:20:53.720 I don't know if they can let it go that easily.

05:20:55.100 Well, they probably.

05:20:55.580 And that's the big question, because the people who are most invested in this particular

05:20:58.700 point of view are not black and Hispanic voters who are most invested in this point of view

05:21:02.500 are the white woke liberals who actually run the party.

05:21:04.920 That's right.

05:21:05.320 And the people who work at The New York Times, the people who decided to give Nicole Hannah-Jones

05:21:08.040 the editorship of the flagship of that newspaper.

05:21:10.260 Yeah.

05:21:10.560 The people who decided that they were going to infuse anti-racism, bullcrap propaganda into

05:21:16.140 every single aspect of your corporate American world.

05:21:19.400 Do you think they're just going to receive that easily?

05:21:20.780 I really wonder if they are, if they lose narrowly, I wonder if what they say is that

05:21:25.160 it's just because we nominated an old school, non-crazy, non-crazy person like Biden.

05:21:30.040 And if they win narrowly, it's going to be because Joe Biden wasn't woke enough.

05:21:33.420 Otherwise, he would have won by a thousand. 1.00

05:21:34.720 But that if that happened on our side, we would call them out for their stupidity. 1.00

05:21:38.200 And I think that would be true if it happens on their side. 1.00

05:21:40.940 In other words, in other words, they will they may claim I hope so.

05:21:43.920 They may cling to the strategy, but the strategy has failed.

05:21:46.780 Yeah.

05:21:46.940 Fox News, by the way, is calling Joe Biden winning Arizona, which is just devastating

05:21:50.420 for Trump.

05:21:51.960 Fox.

05:21:52.980 Fox is calling.

05:21:53.920 Fox called Virginia, too.

05:21:55.160 Is Virginia still in play?

05:21:56.340 Virginia's out of play.

05:21:57.400 They're calling Biden for Arizona, which means that it's now down to basically Pennsylvania

05:22:02.360 and the blue wall.

05:22:04.160 And we're back where we were last election cycle.

05:22:06.260 Trump has to flip now, not just one.

05:22:07.920 He has to flip one of those.

05:22:08.980 He has to flip Pennsylvania and another one.

05:22:12.200 Or Pennsylvania and Nevada, or he has to flip Pennsylvania and Nebraska's second district.

05:22:18.420 What is going on in Nebraska?

05:22:19.720 Because on the map here, all the experts have it read.

05:22:23.600 But I know that it's this kind of a weird situation where they're where it's split.

05:22:28.260 Well, it's so Nebraska splits by congressional district.

05:22:31.680 It is allocated along.

05:22:34.120 Some states do this.

05:22:34.980 Maine does it as well.

05:22:35.800 They don't allocate it winner takes all.

05:22:37.660 Instead, they split it by congressional district.

05:22:39.620 And so right now, I think most of the pollsters are saying that Trump wins three of the five

05:22:44.580 electoral votes in Nebraska.

05:22:46.680 He would need to win four of the five or five of the five.

05:22:49.380 I mean, I talked to a pollster, a Trump pollster, I don't know, maybe three weeks ago, four

05:22:55.260 weeks ago, who said Omaha is going to decide this election.

05:22:59.060 And that could very well be true.

05:23:01.160 Yeah.

05:23:01.440 They have called Ohio for Trump.

05:23:03.080 So Trump has won Ohio.

05:23:04.980 Biden apparently has won Arizona, is what they are suggesting, which gives, again, Biden

05:23:09.500 has a much healthier pathway to the to the presidency if Arizona is, in fact, in his column.

05:23:14.640 It means that he he now only has to win a couple of those blue states, not all three.

05:23:19.760 Yeah.

05:23:20.780 Well, the fact that they're calling Arizona this early at Fox News, it's not a good sign.

05:23:25.060 The fact that they won't call Florida, though, means that I want to actually withhold judgment

05:23:28.500 on Arizona and see what happens as they bring in a few more of those votes, especially because 0.98

05:23:32.760 of what we're seeing in Florida with a Latino vote, see if any of that winds up translating

05:23:36.620 into Arizona.

05:23:37.640 I also want to get a few more questions in from our dailywire.com members.

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05:24:00.500 We have one more announcement that we'll make later in the evening.

05:24:03.200 But those members tonight have the opportunity to get their questions in.

05:24:06.720 And Alicia is bringing those questions to us.

05:24:09.260 Alicia, what do we have?

05:24:10.220 Yes, sir.

05:24:10.700 And speaking of you talked about the Latino vote in Florida.

05:24:13.840 A Daily Wire member has a question for Michael Knowles.

05:24:16.380 Do you think the difference between Arizona and Florida has more to do with Mexican immigrants

05:24:21.320 versus Cuban immigrants?

05:24:24.440 Groups do vote differently.

05:24:25.840 Whoever, Nicole Hannah-Jones, when she said that the idea of Hispanic is contrived or Latino

05:24:30.660 is contrived, that is true.

05:24:32.380 That moniker is a creation basically of the 1970s and late 60s through the 80s because liberal

05:24:39.920 activists wanted to try to replicate what they felt was a successful civil movement.

05:24:43.840 rights movement based on racial identity among other groups and try to bring them to the

05:24:48.080 left.

05:24:48.580 And so they did it with Hispanics. 0.98

05:24:50.000 They then did that with Asians. 0.98

05:24:51.180 They tried to do it during the Obama administration with Middle East and North Africa.

05:24:54.680 They called it MENA.

05:24:55.600 It wasn't a great name, so it didn't catch on.

05:24:57.220 But they're going to try again eventually.

05:24:58.920 And so these are different groups.

05:25:00.000 These are different nations.

05:25:01.060 You know, Cuba is different than Mexico, is different than El Salvador, is different than

05:25:05.060 Guatemala.

05:25:05.720 I, you know, I have not been on the ground in Arizona and I've not been following Arizona

05:25:10.920 as closely as Florida.

05:25:12.540 So I can't give you the top reason, you know, with anything more than a guess.

05:25:16.820 But it is the case historically, Cuban Americans, because they've fled a communist country, have

05:25:22.160 sided more conservative and sided more Republican.

05:25:24.880 Though generationally, that has fallen off.

05:25:28.180 And so you've seen recent immigrants, strongly conservative, next generation a little less 0.99

05:25:32.060 so, and the next generation even less so.

05:25:34.640 So we'll have to see what happened this time around, because the Cuban vote certainly went

05:25:39.780 pretty heavily for Donald Trump this time.

05:25:42.400 But it may vary on age.

05:25:44.420 And then then you won't be able to use race as quite so easy an identifier of political

05:25:49.220 belief.

05:25:49.680 All right, the next question is to the God King.

05:25:53.280 Jeremy, where is the number one place in culture that conservatives cannot take right now that

05:25:57.820 we should be trying to?

05:25:59.460 The number one place that we cannot take that we should be trying to?

05:26:03.060 I think we have, I think we have three places in the culture that we simply cannot take, not

05:26:10.620 quickly.

05:26:11.520 The left didn't take them quickly.

05:26:12.900 They had a generational plan and they executed it to perfection.

05:26:15.860 We're going to have to do something much the same.

05:26:17.680 Academia, obviously one of them.

05:26:19.240 Conservatives have zero representation in academia.

05:26:22.320 You may be able to think of that one conservative professor you had.

05:26:25.000 That actually proves the point.

05:26:26.560 That doesn't, that's the exception that proves the rule.

05:26:29.540 Academia, of course, is propped up by government money.

05:26:32.840 Academia is propped up by conservatives who hold to credentialism and believe that they're,

05:26:37.300 that they're, that they're purchasing for their child a credential that will do them well.

05:26:41.480 I had a conversation once with Secretary DeVos, our education secretary, wonderful woman.

05:26:46.720 And yet I think she had a blind spot in this particular area.

05:26:49.140 She, she was at, we were at this very hoity-toity fundraiser and people were asking her questions

05:26:54.280 all very well to do.

05:26:55.500 And the question was always, don't we need trade schools for people who just aren't right 0.88

05:26:58.980 for college?

05:26:59.880 Don't we need a place for people who just aren't the college material? 0.99

05:27:02.940 Don't they need to go learn how to weld or, you know, learn how to be garbage collectors?

05:27:06.760 I actually found the whole thing distasteful.

05:27:08.460 I mean, first of all, the trades are where all the money's at in the culture right now.

05:27:11.440 If you want to make a good living, learn how to weld because there's more welding jobs available

05:27:16.860 that pay six figures than there are in, for example, gender studies where there are no

05:27:21.240 jobs that pay anything.

05:27:23.120 But that's not the only reason I found it objectionable.

05:27:25.200 I found it objectionable because, well, frankly, more than half of all the small business owners

05:27:29.560 in the country lack college degrees because some of the richest men in the world, Mark

05:27:34.560 Zuckerberg, Michael Dell, lack college degrees.

05:27:38.260 I don't think we should be telling kids, you're not college material, so we want you

05:27:42.500 to do something that we kind of look down on.

05:27:44.200 We should be telling kids, you can do whatever you want.

05:27:46.940 Drop out of college and be rich.

05:27:48.420 Drop out of college and get some life experience.

05:27:50.060 Drop out of college and start a business.

05:27:51.680 Drop out of college and, yes, go to trade school, but that's only one of the options.

05:27:54.560 But the main way that we're going to defeat the left in academia is to stop sending our

05:28:00.980 kids there, stop letting them take on debt that they will never be able to repay for a

05:28:05.820 credential that's utterly meaningless so that professors can train them to believe things

05:28:09.880 that you raised them not to believe.

05:28:11.540 The second, of course, institution is the media.

05:28:13.540 I actually think we're doing better there than in any of the three, but we're still so

05:28:18.680 far behind.

05:28:20.180 Yes, The Daily Wire was the number one publisher, the number one most engaged publisher in the

05:28:24.540 world on Facebook for the last three months, according to Newswhip, but that's still nothing

05:28:30.460 compared to the reach that the left has.

05:28:32.520 They control almost all of the engagements, almost all of the impressions on social media,

05:28:35.940 and, of course, they have their own media channels that are worth billions of dollars.

05:28:40.980 We have so much work to do there, especially in the investigative realm, which is why we announced

05:28:45.260 we're hiring three investigative journalists here tonight.

05:28:48.020 The third place where, obviously, we have an unbelievable hill to climb is in entertainment

05:28:53.340 media, and in entertainment, I include music, I include television, I include film, basically

05:28:59.660 all the things that we might call popular culture.

05:29:02.580 Here, the left's domination of us is almost complete.

05:29:07.140 You can count on your hands the films that have openly represented the worldview of conservatives,

05:29:13.420 and you can even point to some successful ones.

05:29:15.500 American Sniper, the number one best-selling, the number one box office-generating rated-R

05:29:20.220 film of all time, which actually unseated the former number one rated-R movie of all time,

05:29:25.620 The Passion of the Christ, both very similar stories in the sense that it was a story that

05:29:29.900 Americans wanted, that Hollywood would never give them, that required a superstar actor-turned-director

05:29:35.420 who works outside the system to bring us.

05:29:38.260 Hollywood, did they learn any lessons?

05:29:39.460 Of course not, because that's not a lesson they want to learn. 0.99

05:29:41.680 They like the polarization, they don't want your money, and they know you're a chump, 0.98

05:29:45.420 so you'll give them your money, even if they don't do anything to earn it. 0.56

05:29:49.120 How much money?

05:29:50.780 Well, Netflix alone spends $20 billion, that's $20,000 million, on content every single year.

05:30:00.940 That is one single network on the left.

05:30:04.040 All told, the production budget of Hollywood, I don't know if it's even knowable, it's probably

05:30:07.960 well over $150 billion every year.

05:30:11.160 This is why you wind up with Cuties on Netflix.

05:30:14.220 This is why you wind up with all the anti-Iraq war movies when George W. Bush was president.

05:30:18.520 It's why every single election cycle of my lifetime, we've gotten feature films about how bad the

05:30:24.520 Republican is.

05:30:25.500 We've gotten documentaries about how bad the Republican is.

05:30:28.040 We've gotten documentaries about how great every leftist figure is.

05:30:30.620 Why does everybody know Ruth Bader Ginsburg?

05:30:33.000 Because she's a cultural cult figure, because Hollywood will spend billions and billions 1.00

05:30:37.700 and billions of dollars promulgating their worldview and selling you their point of view,

05:30:43.180 whether you want it or not.

05:30:44.800 So what are we going to do where Hollywood is concerned?

05:30:47.100 Well, that's where we have, I think, the biggest hill to climb, and that's the next announcement

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05:31:13.000 We are working on a script with Andrew Klavan for our first series.

05:31:16.580 We are going to, again, can we bring you $20 billion worth of content the way that Netflix

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05:31:22.720 Well, not today.

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05:32:37.120 of a live audience.

05:32:38.180 Can I just say that I think you're absolutely right about the academy, that that's a big

05:32:43.620 hill to climb, and it's going to take a change of attitude.

05:32:46.360 You're absolutely right about this.

05:32:47.660 On entertainment, I don't think we need their billions of dollars.

05:32:50.540 I think we can beat them in the same way Rocky beat the Russian boxer, because all we 0.93

05:32:56.020 have to do is produce the content that people want to see, and they'll come.

05:32:59.820 If you rebuild it, they will come.

05:33:01.200 It's not charity.

05:33:01.980 I don't want to make movies that people feel like they're supposed to go see.

05:33:05.040 That's right.

05:33:05.320 We want to make content that you want to go see, but we do need you to be in our corner

05:33:09.280 as we do that.

05:33:10.060 We're going to take one more question from a Daily Wire member in that spirit right now

05:33:13.700 from Alicia.

05:33:14.340 Awesome.

05:33:14.720 And this question goes to our very own Ben Shapiro.

05:33:18.020 If Biden were to win, would we reverse all of the progress that we have made in the last

05:33:22.340 four years, more specifically when it comes to international policy in the Middle East,

05:33:26.060 and continue with an armed conflict there?

05:33:28.640 So my guess is that foreign policy is the area where the president has the most power

05:33:32.980 because he's the commander in chief.

05:33:34.480 He has the most power to shape policy.

05:33:36.100 He doesn't really have to worry about Congress there, as Barack Obama showed when he launched

05:33:39.260 an illegal war in Libya and then just maintained it.

05:33:41.320 So that sort of stuff happens fairly regularly.

05:33:44.840 Will Biden be able to dramatically reshape the Middle East without any sort of senatorial

05:33:50.440 approval?

05:33:51.100 And the fact that Republicans have been holding the Senate, and I do not think are going to

05:33:54.020 give a green light to that sort of thing, is definitely going to provide some sort of check.

05:33:57.700 I think he'll try to renegotiate something with the Iranians and with the Palestinians.

05:34:01.520 I just don't think there's a lot of regional interest in that right now.

05:34:04.160 So no, I don't think that Biden has the capacity to walk everything back.

05:34:06.580 Will it be a lot uglier in the Middle East because Biden is president, if God forbid he

05:34:10.560 wins? 0.87

05:34:11.100 Yeah, it'll definitely be a lot uglier.

05:34:13.060 But some of the realities on the ground have simply shifted.

05:34:15.980 And because those realities on the ground are the new realities, I don't think that we're

05:34:20.060 going back to a time when all of those Arab-Israel deals that just got made fall apart.

05:34:24.640 I don't think that that's exactly what's going to happen here.

05:34:27.400 I think that there is a high likelihood the opposite is going to happen, that reality is

05:34:32.540 now reality, and Biden is going to be going up against reality, and not much is going to

05:34:36.260 end up changing, despite Biden's most fervent efforts to the contrary.

05:34:40.380 All right.

05:34:40.680 Well, we are still here.

05:34:42.160 Bickley and I are going to head back into the war room, guys, next time we see you.

05:34:45.340 This map could look a little different.

05:34:47.140 I sure hope it looks a little different.

05:34:48.840 We don't know if that'll be trending in the blue or the red direction, but we're going to

05:34:52.940 head back and toss it back to you guys.

05:34:54.960 All righty.

05:34:57.020 So, welcome back.

05:34:58.680 We're in this room again.

05:34:59.820 And now we are joined by Eric Weinstein.

05:35:01.720 Eric, of course, is the founder of the intellectual dark web and a heterodox thinker who is no

05:35:09.240 longer welcome in his formerly leftist circles because of his heterodoxy.

05:35:12.860 So, you're welcome here.

05:35:14.160 So, welcome.

05:35:14.860 So, you've been watching the results come in, Eric.

05:35:22.820 And you're, as a heterodox thinker and somebody who's been sort of touting the fact that Trump

05:35:27.680 has unique appeal to crowds that, you know, historically have not been Republican.

05:35:32.480 You've been sort of sounding the alarm on this for quite a while.

05:35:34.320 What was it that folks on the left, you're of the left in terms of your policy.

05:35:37.540 Well, I'm of the intellectual left, not the current Democratic Party version of the left.

05:35:43.760 Right.

05:35:43.980 You're not of the white left. 0.53

05:35:44.940 I don't understand.

05:35:45.860 Right.

05:35:46.280 So, what is it that everybody missed about Trump here?

05:35:49.360 Because regardless of how this election goes, it is a hell of a lot closer than it was supposed

05:35:53.140 to be.

05:35:54.520 Yeah.

05:35:54.980 But, I mean, everybody's been lying.

05:35:56.780 And so.

05:35:57.860 That's a good reason.

05:35:58.400 The point is, it's very difficult to keep talking about preference falsification when

05:36:05.100 nobody listens.

05:36:06.920 It's very difficult to talk to the left about the fact that scolding people, that they should

05:36:12.260 feel guilty because they resemble people who hundreds of years owned other people.

05:36:17.080 And you're not winning friends, hearts, minds.

05:36:21.240 You're not making sense.

05:36:22.220 So, to be blunt about it, I just don't understand what the post-Clinton Democratic left is doing

05:36:30.980 institutionally because this isn't what left-of-center politics are supposed to be.

05:36:36.300 This is completely incoherent.

05:36:37.820 It's a repudiation of everything that we know about, I mean, the heart of being a progressive

05:36:42.920 is the word progress.

05:36:44.520 So, at one point, you could have been a progressive and thought that communism was going to be progress

05:36:48.680 because it hadn't been tried.

05:36:49.860 But, you know, a few unmarked graves later, you have to reevaluate whether or not you wish

05:36:56.480 to tie your wagon to Stalin's star.

05:37:00.760 In this situation, we're just seeing people lying continuously about Donald Trump.

05:37:08.140 And the idea that every person who doesn't go along with you is a white supremacist, whether

05:37:14.600 or not that person is black or Asian or Jewish, this has never made sense to anybody who isn't

05:37:23.080 part of the cult.

05:37:24.520 And I just, I guess what I, you know, I had a tweet a while back, but I will be very surprised

05:37:30.540 if there isn't a stronger than expected Trump surge.

05:37:33.840 And while it's too early to call the election one way or the other, it's certainly not too

05:37:38.600 early to call the fact that once again, it appears to be off.

05:37:41.280 So, with that said, you know, right now, it seems like there is still a good possibility

05:37:47.400 that Biden wins, albeit narrowly, because Trump would have to at this point, if he, ABC is

05:37:53.060 also called Arizona for Biden.

05:37:54.760 That means that Trump needs to win Pennsylvania and obviously Iowa, and he needs to win Nevada

05:38:00.880 or he needs to win another state in order for that to manifest, a victory for him to manifest.

05:38:06.340 Let's say that Biden wins narrowly.

05:38:07.560 Do you think there's any reckoning at hand for the Democratic Party?

05:38:09.920 Do you think they rethink this thing, given the fact that Trump has pulled the outside

05:38:13.160 support?

05:38:13.620 They thought that they were going to walk away with this thing with 350 electoral votes.

05:38:16.920 When you decide to go with somebody who's 78 years old at inauguration, you probably know

05:38:24.180 that you don't have a deep bench to go to.

05:38:29.520 And I would say that what you're looking at is the last gasp of the gerontocracy.

05:38:33.980 It's very hard to find somebody who's willing to step into these shoes who's younger. 0.77

05:38:39.140 Now, at the tail end of regimes that end badly, like the Ceausescus, you usually have some

05:38:45.040 guy who you make president for two days.

05:38:47.860 You know, here, you're the prime minister, good luck to you, sir.

05:38:52.840 Um, what I believe is, is that it's been very hard to attract young people to sign on to

05:38:59.540 a failing ideology.

05:39:02.000 Um, now I'm very disturbed about Donald Trump.

05:39:06.340 Um, but I will say that the right has been getting more reasonable as the left continues 0.92

05:39:12.460 to portray it as getting more insane.

05:39:14.660 What does intellectual leftism look like at this point?

05:39:18.860 Well, I mean, to be honest with you, I'm worried that you guys aren't getting it.

05:39:22.740 I'm worried that you're going to lose capitalism because you're not realizing that you better

05:39:26.740 deal in Gen Z and the millennials at a minimum if you want people to continue to care about

05:39:34.380 the American experiment that I think that I'm interested in fighting with you guys about

05:39:38.700 over decades.

05:39:39.520 Um, in other words, we have a situation in which, if you look at the way in which the

05:39:45.200 millennials are experiencing their lives in terms of home ownership, family formation,

05:39:49.820 they're not part of the American experience at an appropriate rate.

05:39:53.940 Right.

05:39:54.100 Right.

05:39:54.220 And if you guys don't wake up to the, uh, wonders of a little bit of socialism in order

05:39:59.020 to make sure that everybody's still trying to make capitalism work, good luck keeping...

05:40:03.820 You mean in the sense that, uh, some people put off buying a home, they put off having

05:40:08.260 kids, they put off getting married because they don't have enough money or they don't

05:40:12.080 have a stable job or something like that?

05:40:13.200 Yeah.

05:40:13.920 I mean, I, I mean that if you are, uh, 35 years old and you don't have a home and you're,

05:40:22.800 let's say you're female. 1.00

05:40:23.560 So your biological clock is, uh, of concern to you.

05:40:28.420 Um, you're in a situation where you're about to, your, your life plan that you might've been

05:40:34.640 planning on if it was generic enough is about to be frustrated.

05:40:38.500 And what's worse is like, let's say you have parents who have a second home or a third home

05:40:43.720 and you can't even get to your first home.

05:40:46.800 And then there's some story about how they had a paper route and that, that paper route

05:40:50.380 made everything working.

05:40:51.160 And they put themselves through college because, you know, Lord knows they didn't have any debt

05:40:54.800 when they graduated, blah, blah, blah.

05:40:55.980 These young people have no concept of what this capitalist American experience is left 0.85

05:41:03.880 or right.

05:41:04.880 Yeah.

05:41:05.120 No, I think you make a great point here.

05:41:07.000 I, I would probably dispute that the issue is primarily economic though.

05:41:11.140 I think there is a major economic element.

05:41:12.960 And I, I think you're, you're totally right that this issue of how we live our lives, how

05:41:17.780 we form families, how we settle down, how we integrate into a community.

05:41:21.540 If you lose that, you're going to lose the whole system.

05:41:23.720 Well, and the question is, how do you get the Gini coefficients that measure the amount

05:41:27.720 of inequality in a society to go down without the barrel of a gun pointed at anyone?

05:41:33.120 When you, when you talk about a little bit of, of socialism, the word has come to mean

05:41:37.660 almost nothing.

05:41:38.640 Originally it meant the state taking over the means of production.

05:41:41.720 That's not what people mean anymore.

05:41:43.300 No, I think what they're doing is they're abstracting to a layer of indirection where

05:41:46.980 socialism in, in its meta kind of guise is that you're going to have to recognize that

05:41:53.180 the market's distributional mechanism under the political economy that we currently experience

05:41:59.480 and under some of the intensifying effects where a small number of people can capture almost

05:42:04.960 all of the value in a space from a small difference in quality.

05:42:08.020 There's an implicit morality to the market.

05:42:10.740 And when you can't say that that person is wealthy because they contributed $4 worth of

05:42:18.800 value on average to every American, when you have to say, well, that person is wealthy

05:42:24.060 because of something involving reverse loans and trusts and the Cayman Islands, then you

05:42:30.320 have a new problem, right?

05:42:31.820 Where, which is what does success mean?

05:42:34.120 And then you get the word success replaced by the word privilege.

05:42:36.780 And I can tell how much you're all enjoying that word.

05:42:39.440 What happens though, are we talking about, are we talking about a failure of capitalism

05:42:45.740 or are we talking about a corruption of capitalism?

05:42:48.080 Are we dealing with what they call crony capitalism, which is really just cronyism so that the free

05:42:53.440 market is now so slanted that it doesn't matter?

05:42:55.020 It is worth, it is worth pointing out here, Drew, the term capitalism was popularized by Marxists.

05:42:59.760 Yeah.

05:42:59.960 So it's already kind of a loaded term.

05:43:01.460 But just to play with my conservative friends here, if I were to say, you know, the problem

05:43:06.480 with communism is it's never really been tried, you guys would all laugh, right?

05:43:11.320 That's a great point.

05:43:11.820 So my point to you would be right back at you.

05:43:13.980 It's the same thing with capitalism.

05:43:15.460 You want to know what the problem is with real capitalism?

05:43:17.220 Well, it depends on what the solution that's being proposed is.

05:43:19.340 Because if the solution is government subsidization of particular groups at the expense of other

05:43:26.220 groups, which is a certain level of redistributionism, that's one thing.

05:43:30.180 If what we're talking about is relieving the government from providing subsidies, then that's

05:43:34.600 precisely the opposite.

05:43:35.700 Well, let me get to an earlier point.

05:43:37.560 I don't know why I desire to help the loyal opposition, but in some sort of Stockholm syndrome

05:43:44.980 or bridge over the river Kwai moment, I did notice that you guys were talking about the

05:43:50.380 difficulties of attracting professors.

05:43:52.580 You guys have a very easy road if you want to, which is stop treating professors as people

05:43:58.100 looking for government handouts due to your precious tax dollars.

05:44:02.080 Get smarter.

05:44:02.940 Realize that you've effectively made it impossible to claim intellectual property rights from basic

05:44:08.440 discoveries and say, you know what?

05:44:10.740 We're going to poke a hole because we recognize that market failure is a real thing.

05:44:14.420 Markets are fantastic, but they don't do everything for you.

05:44:17.080 And what we're going to do is we are going to commit to people in STEM subjects to make sure

05:44:21.520 that they get their academic freedom back, that they're not worried about grants.

05:44:24.640 They're not worried about being humiliated, and then you can have professors again.

05:44:28.160 But the place that you guys went wrong is that you started treating professors as, and

05:44:33.940 the famous quote is, welfare queens in lab coats. 1.00

05:44:37.100 I wasn't a winner.

05:44:38.140 I'm all for that, Eric.

05:44:39.160 I am totally for winning.

05:44:40.220 But my only issue is, did we ever really have the professors?

05:44:43.460 You know, I'm reminded of God and Man at Yale by Buckley.

05:44:46.280 He says, even back in the 50s, all his professors were pinkos. 0.58

05:44:49.060 Well, but the problem is that you guys tend to see things a little bit black and white.

05:44:53.360 So what I talk about is...

05:44:54.660 You're talking about in STEM fields.

05:44:55.760 That's not quite the same thing as the North Campus majors at UCLA.

05:44:59.300 Well, but you guys think that universities are about teaching, and great universities are

05:45:03.260 about research.

05:45:04.240 And we put a fig leaf of teaching on the front of them because of Van of our Bush.

05:45:08.800 That's not really the issue.

05:45:10.000 There's always been a mixed thing between Democrats and Republicans.

05:45:13.280 You don't need to worry about real Democrats and people who are really of the left.

05:45:17.200 What I always say is that the Tom Lehrer left and the P.J. O'Rourke right can get along

05:45:21.360 just front.

05:45:21.920 Right, right. 0.99

05:45:22.540 The problem is the batshit crazy Charlottesville right and the ridiculous Antifa left need 0.99

05:45:29.680 to get a room and leave the rest of us the hell alone. 0.99

05:45:31.980 That's right.

05:45:32.580 But isn't it...

05:45:33.660 I always say that the thing with the far right, no one in this room is for the far right.

05:45:40.340 The far right is on the comments section of Breitbart.

05:45:42.820 That's not the issue.

05:45:43.700 But the far left is in Congress.

05:45:45.860 Yes, there is an asymmetry.

05:45:48.060 But to be blunt about it, there are norms that prevented the far right from finding each

05:45:53.220 other in the...

05:45:55.180 As they did at the beginning of the Trump administration.

05:45:57.840 So there was a period that actually wasn't that long lived where the extreme right...

05:46:04.320 And I don't even want to call them the extreme right.

05:46:05.660 I want to talk about them as the bigoted, really ugly right.

05:46:09.320 Yeah. 0.93

05:46:09.480 They thought they had a fair blanche.

05:46:12.460 Yep.

05:46:12.720 And then they got shut down.

05:46:14.500 And the question is, would the same thing happen in a Biden administration in which the

05:46:19.800 far left thinks, OK, cool, we've been part of the Big Ten.

05:46:23.620 This to me is the big question I wanted to ask you about it, because this is what I've been

05:46:26.740 considering, is that the future of the country at this point, it seems to me, is really more

05:46:31.040 about whether mainstream liberals decide that they are more interested in opening up the

05:46:37.860 Overton window wide enough to have discussions with people who are not of their political

05:46:41.480 persuasion, but they have in common a belief in individual rights and freedom of speech

05:46:46.020 and freedom of conversation, or whether they're so wedded to their policy priorities that they

05:46:50.500 believe they can more easily achieve those by dumping over all those things and making

05:46:53.580 common cause with the woke left and sort of the Antifa crowd.

05:46:57.360 Because it seems like that is the question, like the Harper's Weekly letter that they put

05:47:00.980 out where there's all these mainstream liberals, all of whom voted for Joe Biden and none

05:47:04.880 of whom voted for Trump, talking about how the Overton window needed to be widened.

05:47:09.360 On the one hand, I thought, OK, that's a good thing.

05:47:10.900 On the other hand, I thought this would be so much more effective if you had had one person

05:47:13.640 who voted for Donald Trump on this list.

05:47:15.160 It's like you want to open the Overton window just wide enough to let you and your buddies

05:47:18.820 through, but not quite wide enough to actually have a conversation with anybody who disagrees

05:47:22.040 with you.

05:47:22.460 But you guys are, the way that the modern left is formulated, you're not just people with 0.99

05:47:27.320 whom I disagree, you're all evil. 0.98

05:47:29.320 Right. 0.97

05:47:29.680 Yeah.

05:47:29.940 In my particular case, that's true.

05:47:32.000 I could tell by the lack of hair.

05:47:35.600 Clearly, Lex Luthor.

05:47:36.360 But in fact, nothing you're saying, at least for me and Knowles, I would say, nothing you're

05:47:40.160 saying is so far out there that we couldn't find some place of common ground.

05:47:45.660 That's what Ben once said to me.

05:47:47.140 Ben, I once asked Ben the question, what happens when the market can't reach the median

05:47:53.580 non-remarkable individual anymore?

05:47:55.820 And he says, then we'd have to consider other measures.

05:47:57.600 I said, Ben, why don't you say things like that in front of the world?

05:48:00.040 He says, because you, Eric, are highly specific in what you're complaining about.

05:48:04.000 And the left tends to be very, like the 1%.

05:48:07.080 That's right. 1.00

05:48:07.480 So you're going to go after the sons of bitches. 1.00

05:48:10.320 Right. 1.00

05:48:10.560 When I ask you for a solution and you say things like, okay, we need to not put, you know,

05:48:14.940 that we need to strengthen patent law for people in STEM and protect their, like that.

05:48:19.480 Everybody recognizes since the founding that patent law is a place where markets actually

05:48:23.440 experience failure because otherwise there'd be no actual rationale for discovering anything

05:48:27.780 because if you don't protect intellectual property, intellectual property is a form of property.

05:48:31.180 Especially during the founding, actually.

05:48:32.720 Right.

05:48:32.860 During that era.

05:48:33.620 It's literally in the constitution that the federal government has the power of patents.

05:48:36.500 I don't want basic research to be patentable.

05:48:40.240 What I want is to recognize that we have the world's greatest deal by ensuring that our

05:48:47.360 research scientists give us stuff for simply being immunized from the market.

05:48:52.820 Right.

05:48:52.960 If you're immunized from the market and you're given academic freedom, you don't have a billion

05:48:57.520 dollars, but you have the security of a guy with a billion dollars.

05:49:01.220 Right.

05:49:01.660 It really matters that I can go into my work every day and know that no matter what I say,

05:49:06.640 I have a job.

05:49:07.440 Right.

05:49:07.560 Now, all that's fair enough.

05:49:09.200 Yeah, but it wasn't fair because then the whole point was, right at some point, badly

05:49:15.240 misgaged the situation in academics and went into this kind of market purity thing.

05:49:21.520 Remember market purity?

05:49:22.760 Yeah.

05:49:23.220 That was like the 80s, though, to me.

05:49:24.720 I sort of feel like we were moving out of that.

05:49:26.480 I know.

05:49:27.040 But that's what my point is, is that you guys have an easy path to victory in the academy.

05:49:31.940 You're not going to win the whole academy.

05:49:33.240 But if you get 10 percent, you get a beachhead, then you get enough to allow people to have

05:49:38.420 both perspectives in terms of the political parties.

05:49:42.300 And you have you have a discussion.

05:49:43.560 But it's like a one line piece of spackle or retroactive continuity.

05:49:48.960 And you can't even manage that.

05:49:51.140 You know, it's funny because we've been talking all night about how if President Trump makes

05:49:54.820 inroads with the black vote, he's not going to win 50 percent.

05:49:57.380 He's not going to win 60 percent.

05:49:58.360 But he might win 15 percent.

05:50:00.280 And that would be a huge deal because that really hampers the Democrats.

05:50:03.520 It sounds like you're saying a similar thing with professors.

05:50:05.860 You might not get 50 percent of the professors.

05:50:07.660 But if you made some roads into academia, you've you've really got a place from which

05:50:12.740 you could form.

05:50:13.300 I mean, look, the reason that I really in the modern era can't stand the Republican Party

05:50:18.640 is that in part on your watch under Ronald Reagan, you came up with completely disastrous

05:50:24.640 ideas for figuring out how to tamper with the wage mechanism for American scientists.

05:50:29.860 And my feeling is, is that you guys are anti-market manipulators who completely destroyed the

05:50:36.740 crown jewel of American intellectual life, which is our research complex.

05:50:41.980 And well done, gentlemen.

05:50:43.420 But it seems it seems to me that something else I knew what the hell you were talking about.

05:50:47.520 I'd totally be.

05:50:48.320 Yeah, let me be.

05:50:49.980 I'd love to do this on a big program in 1986.

05:50:54.520 There was a guy named Eric Block, who was the first non-academic head of the National Science

05:50:59.440 Foundation, and he realized that we were going to have to pay more money to scientists because

05:51:04.260 the demographics of the baby busts were going to mean that the supply curve came in.

05:51:09.480 And so what he realized is, is that if we flooded the market with foreign students who 0.55

05:51:16.100 are not actually students, they're workers, that we can push out the supply curve and you

05:51:19.860 get the wage to go down.

05:51:21.080 And then what they did in order to disguise the fact that they were manipulating a market

05:51:24.720 is that they removed the demand curves and claimed it was only a demographic analysis.

05:51:28.860 Right, right.

05:51:29.440 Right.

05:51:29.800 Now, that thing is what led to the Immigration Act of 1990.

05:51:33.360 Now, you guys don't even know about that because nobody knows about this story because nobody

05:51:37.020 in the left of center media wants to talk about this.

05:51:41.260 And the right of center media hasn't caught on.

05:51:43.380 Now, what I'm trying to tell you is there's so much soul searching real conservatives and

05:51:49.460 real progressives can do together.

05:51:52.620 Because to be blunt, you guys also want to see the progress of the human race.

05:51:57.420 And I want to see the best aspects of our world conserved.

05:52:01.000 We're just not sitting down and having those conversations.

05:52:03.660 Instead, we're having moronic conversations about either the market solves everything or 0.99

05:52:08.680 everyone's a white supremacist. 0.98

05:52:10.520 I don't want to have either one.

05:52:11.680 It frightens me that I completely agree with you about this.

05:52:14.400 I know.

05:52:14.660 I have to leave the set.

05:52:15.560 Yeah, I know.

05:52:15.920 But it also seems to me that there's another aspect of this, another flow of information

05:52:24.800 coming in there where you start with guys on the cultural side, guys like Edward Said

05:52:29.040 proclaiming Jane Austen an imperialist.

05:52:33.940 And those people start to infect the STEM people in your universities where suddenly they're saying

05:52:40.760 to you, well, if you make certain discoveries, you're fired.

05:52:43.320 And that's the kind of thing that we wind up arguing with.

05:52:47.340 We wind up arguing with the cultural left and maybe not hearing what's happening.

05:52:52.420 Why not spend less time with grievance studies people and more time with the people who actually

05:52:58.720 make sure that the bombs don't go off prematurely and that they land in the right place?

05:53:03.260 Because there's a barrier to entry.

05:53:04.780 That's right.

05:53:05.420 Because the culture wars are a barrier to entry.

05:53:07.820 Meaning you and I can have this conversation because we have a baseline.

05:53:10.200 And we can all have this conversation because we already have a baseline agreement on certain

05:53:13.160 fundamental values.

05:53:14.000 And this is, I think, the entire problem.

05:53:15.440 And I think it's also behind a lot of what is going on right now in even the discussion

05:53:20.880 about the demographic shifts and the new voter coalitions.

05:53:24.680 I think a lot of people are putting a lot away.

05:53:26.100 I know, Henry Olson, we've had this conversation a lot on this particular sort of backstage show.

05:53:30.100 Henry Olson puts a lot of weight on the sort of Donald Trump economic program, immigration

05:53:34.960 restrictionism, and trying to boost wages either with subsidies or in other semi-artificial

05:53:40.600 ways in sort of dying towns.

05:53:42.940 And I really kind of believe that Donald Trump's actual appeal to most of the folks he's winning

05:53:49.340 over has very little to do with that.

05:53:51.620 I think it has very much to do with the fact that the left is refusing a baseline level of

05:53:56.840 conversation until foreclosing these conversations.

05:54:00.140 I think that if we had a debate, a public debate right now between Joe Biden and Donald

05:54:04.080 Trump over how to properly fund higher education in STEM, I think that the American people would

05:54:09.920 go to sleep because they recognize that, number one, it doesn't actually apply.

05:54:14.460 They think it doesn't.

05:54:15.480 It's a second order question.

05:54:16.520 It doesn't apply to them in their immediate life.

05:54:18.120 What does apply to them in their immediate life is the fact that when they go on social media,

05:54:21.600 they are, in fact, called white supremacists for saying they might vote for Trump or they

05:54:25.580 are suggested to be religious bigots if they go to church.

05:54:28.020 And so for the better conversations to happen, and I think this is what we're watching right

05:54:31.440 now, for the better conversations to happen, there has to be a baseline agreement on values

05:54:35.520 that is not in evidence right now.

05:54:37.300 And I don't think that Joe Biden is going to put that back into evidence.

05:54:39.760 So there needs to be a better way. 0.57

05:54:41.780 Oddly enough, the supposed threats in the institutions, Donald Trump, the supposed fascist

05:54:45.060 Donald Trump, he seems a lot more willing to have those conversations with people on

05:54:48.120 the other side than the left is willing to have those conversations with Trump.

05:54:50.360 Plus, Trump is more likely to sign a deal along the lines of what you're talking about.

05:54:53.080 Trump wants to oppress you guys, right?

05:54:56.500 So the idea is social justice is actually about social vengeance.

05:54:59.760 Right, exactly.

05:55:00.600 This is the fundamental problem.

05:55:01.580 I understand that, but I don't want to oppress you guys and I don't want vengeance.

05:55:04.640 What I do want to do is impress upon you that kind of you started the destruction of the

05:55:10.860 American science and engineering enterprise on your watch, and it would be really great to

05:55:15.920 get right-of-center people to be more patriotic, to be more individualistic.

05:55:21.460 I feel like you guys aren't sufficiently individualistic.

05:55:24.380 I certainly am not, no.

05:55:27.060 I'm on board with all of that.

05:55:28.400 I have trouble taking blame for a thing that happened when I was two.

05:55:31.780 No, no, no.

05:55:32.240 But the question is going, going forward again.

05:55:35.920 Think of it differently as an opportunity.

05:55:37.320 You have an opportunity to stand up for academic freedom.

05:55:40.340 I think what you're describing is important.

05:55:42.600 I think that it's narrow, but that it's important.

05:55:44.620 You said something early in your remarks that I think goes to why that conversation is difficult.

05:55:51.180 You rightly corrected yourself.

05:55:52.500 You said in the beginning of the Trump ascendancy, there were the radical right, and then you

05:55:57.540 corrected yourself.

05:55:58.220 I said, well, I shouldn't say the extreme was your word.

05:56:00.760 I shouldn't say extreme right.

05:56:02.040 I should say the bigoted right.

05:56:03.100 I think that's fair because I would think of, for example, an extreme Christian as someone

05:56:08.720 who really, really, really believes in Christian doctrine.

05:56:12.180 The extreme right, the alt-right, the America first chumps, they don't believe in an extreme

05:56:18.460 version of conservative ideology.

05:56:21.040 They believe in this sort of something very different, this bigotry.

05:56:24.180 So I think that was a correct.

05:56:25.760 But there is another side to that, which is what I think Drew was alluding to.

05:56:30.380 There is an extreme left, which is engaged in a sort of revolutionary movement in this

05:56:37.420 country right now.

05:56:38.500 And unfortunately, the extreme left has mainstream power within the Democrat Party.

05:56:43.160 I actually don't think that Antifa is the extreme left.

05:56:45.920 I would compare them more to your bigoted right.

05:56:47.620 They're more like the strangely bigoted left.

05:56:49.980 The extreme left is the main...

05:56:52.880 Paul Hanna-Jones and AOC.

05:56:53.560 That's right.

05:56:53.960 AOC.

05:56:54.840 They want to change the fundamental structures of our society.

05:56:59.080 They want to reframe them.

05:57:00.280 They want to reframe the country.

05:57:01.760 They're the new framers.

05:57:02.740 And because of that, it's very difficult for us to even engage on these sorts of issues.

05:57:07.060 I mean, it's difficult for me to engage in these issues, because I don't know what the

05:57:09.280 hell any of you are talking about. 0.63

05:57:10.600 I've all got about 20 IQ points on me each.

05:57:12.800 But it's difficult to have these conversations with anyone, because on the left, the extreme

05:57:18.360 movement has actually all the power right now.

05:57:20.820 Quick, quick, sorry.

05:57:21.440 Quick update.

05:57:22.240 I mean, since we are doing election night, quick update.

05:57:25.220 Joni Ernst is projected to win in Iowa.

05:57:26.820 This means Republicans hold the Senate.

05:57:28.040 That's big.

05:57:28.840 Republicans are going to hold the Senate.

05:57:29.980 That's right.

05:57:30.200 Tom Tellis wins in North Carolina.

05:57:31.780 That's being projected.

05:57:33.040 Joni Ernst wins in Iowa.

05:57:34.380 That's being projected.

05:57:35.700 Cory Gardner loses in Colorado.

05:57:37.360 Martha McSally loses in Arizona.

05:57:38.580 Republicans win the seat in Alabama.

05:57:40.800 It is extremely likely at this point that Republicans hold the Senate.

05:57:44.740 They would have to, in order to lose the Senate, they would have to lose both the Collins

05:57:47.280 seat as well as the Dane seat in Montana.

05:57:50.420 Divided government is the best government, unless we control everything.

05:57:53.860 Also, by the way, Chip Roy did win his race in Texas.

05:57:57.020 Oh, fantastic.

05:57:57.920 Good news.

05:57:58.580 Nobody deserves to be in Congress less than Wendy Davis. 0.96

05:58:02.240 Chip Roy, I mean, take him.

05:58:03.580 Pink sneakers.

05:58:03.920 Pink sneakers.

05:58:03.940 Pink sneakers.

05:58:05.600 That's always a binary to it.

05:58:06.740 That's right.

05:58:07.380 I want to give you a chance to respond to that.

05:58:09.460 And then I actually have my own big news, which we're going to have to go to Cassie Dillon

05:58:13.600 for.

05:58:13.860 But it's going to be the most cathartic, enjoyable moment, I think, of the night.

05:58:17.420 Oh, wow.

05:58:17.660 I don't think there's any chance they call it the election tonight.

05:58:19.300 The five of us or the four of us?

05:58:20.780 It's going to be enjoyable.

05:58:21.300 Oh, I think you'll like it.

05:58:22.240 All right.

05:58:24.500 By the way, I am excited about divided government because I don't want either of these two potential

05:58:29.520 presidents ramming through it too much.

05:58:31.220 But I don't even see anybody to take over from.

05:58:33.900 With respect to the earlier issue.

05:58:36.760 So you were saying that the weird move to the left, the left that doesn't, see, I don't

05:58:45.000 even want to call it the left.

05:58:45.660 The illiberal left.

05:58:46.420 I want to call it the group of people that don't believe in the law of the excluded 0.95

05:58:49.580 middle and modus ponens.

05:58:51.540 Right?

05:58:51.660 Well, that's catchy.

05:58:52.420 Yeah.

05:58:52.700 Yeah.

05:58:52.920 It's like people who are somehow experimenting with the idea that consistency is a white supremacist.

05:59:00.660 Yeah. 0.91

05:59:01.800 That family is a white supremacist.

05:59:03.660 Well, all of these showing up on time and practicing the piano is a white because I don't know. 1.00

05:59:11.520 It's beyond stupid. 0.99

05:59:12.520 So there's no way of responding to it because you can't even process what the argument is. 1.00

05:59:16.480 Yeah.

05:59:16.820 Yeah.

05:59:17.440 Yeah.

05:59:17.740 Those people are in part.

05:59:19.180 Somebody once said to me, you're not understanding, Eric.

05:59:22.640 These people aren't making an error.

05:59:24.220 It's asymmetric warfare.

05:59:25.640 And this is what the powerless do.

05:59:27.800 And they're confusing you with the powerful.

05:59:29.480 Yeah.

05:59:30.020 Yeah.

05:59:30.260 And so, oh, okay.

05:59:31.120 That's why A implies B and B implies C means that A implies a chicken.

05:59:35.920 Yeah.

05:59:36.100 That thing is really weird because, you see, most of the people that I know don't use that kind of thinking in their business.

05:59:51.740 If you use that kind of thinking in your business, your business would usually evaporate.

05:59:55.480 If you use that on your tax returns and you just turned in something in red crayon with lots of pictures of hearts and rainbows, no one would know at the IRS what you were doing.

06:00:06.500 Now, you can talk in these crazy terms in political circumstances.

06:00:11.160 What no one knows is what this stuff means.

06:00:14.340 Right.

06:00:14.700 Well, this is because I think of the divide between the practical and the ethereal on the left that almost everyone I say almost because I think probably some of the radicals, the true radicals don't.

06:00:25.020 But most people who are going to vote for Joe Biden tonight, most people even who think that he should pack the court, most people even who think maybe Puerto Rico should be a state without a filibuster on a simple majority vote.

06:00:34.860 They actually live their day to day lives in much more conservative ways.

06:00:38.740 They run their business like conservatives.

06:00:40.300 They raise their children like conservatives.

06:00:41.340 It's when they're asserting their values in the social world in which we live.

06:00:49.540 Something has happened in our culture where you are a bad person if you don't.

06:00:54.120 If you preach what you practice.

06:00:55.840 Well, but this is where the Harper's letter comes into play.

06:00:59.340 I agree.

06:00:59.600 The Harper's letter is really this very weird story where you had a group of people doing the hiring in newsrooms, let's say, or publication, various sort of center-left publications.

06:01:10.280 And they said, hey, you know what?

06:01:11.540 To appeal to the kids, let's get some of this woke stuff.

06:01:15.080 And the woke reporters will go after other people.

06:01:17.820 And they won't turn on their masters because we hired them.

06:01:20.160 Right.

06:01:20.480 For a period of time, this idea of, you know, playing Tiger King worked.

06:01:28.280 And then you keep feeding these tigers and suddenly they view their trainers as a source of protein.

06:01:34.600 And these people are saying, wait a minute, you can't come after us.

06:01:38.140 You're supposed to go out and get them.

06:01:40.660 And that's what the Harper's letter was all about.

06:01:42.720 It's basically saying, hey, we may have goofed by playing with this in order to get some buzz and some energy.

06:01:51.460 And suddenly this isn't feeling that much fun. 0.98

06:01:53.420 But in the analogy, who's that bitch Carol Baskin? 1.00

06:01:57.160 So I do want to share my extraordinary news. 0.97

06:01:59.680 And it's not my extraordinary news.

06:02:01.040 It's actually the find of our very own Cassie Dillon, who is in our war room with something.

06:02:06.180 It's just so, I mean, prepare yourself with a nice leftist-tears hot or cold tumbler for what you are about to behold.

06:02:17.040 Well, I have an update for you.

06:02:19.020 It seems that the left is starting to get a little bit anxious, especially over at the Young Turks.

06:02:23.580 So I have a video for you that I think you will all enjoy.

06:02:26.000 So let's watch it.

06:02:27.200 Get out of the way. 0.53

06:02:28.740 Both Jake Tapper and Nancy Pelosi and all those and every editor at the New York Times has to get out of our way. 0.95

06:02:37.140 Let us hit the Republicans in the face instead of playing patty cakes with them. 1.00

06:02:42.380 How many elections are we going to get to a razor's edge with a monster, idiot fascist like Donald Trump? 1.00

06:02:48.420 One last thing. 1.00

06:02:49.380 I swear to God I'm going to go to Ida.

06:02:51.160 But one last thing on this, guys. 0.82

06:02:54.980 Forget him being a racist. 0.97

06:02:56.700 Forget him being a fascist. 1.00

06:02:58.660 The guy's IQ is lower than 70. 1.00

06:03:01.380 He's an idiot. 1.00

06:03:02.820 He's a total moron. 1.00

06:03:04.860 And you couldn't figure out how to crush him in an election? 1.00

06:03:08.040 Man, the corporate Democrats and the mainstream media suck at this. 1.00

06:03:12.220 They absolutely, positively suck. 1.00

06:03:14.560 And they brainwash smart people into compliance. 0.99

06:03:19.000 Well, that's not what we do.

06:03:19.960 Get out of the way. 0.53

06:03:21.580 Both Jake Tapper and...

06:03:24.020 He's like 80% right.

06:03:26.000 You know, he looks like he's having a good time over there.

06:03:30.160 Like I said, we are not in full meltdown mode right now.

06:03:33.320 We are in lukewarm meltdown mode.

06:03:35.440 So there's a few other things going on in Twitter as well.

06:03:38.060 A bunch of blue check marks are really getting nervous.

06:03:40.560 One of them is talking about our entire earth is on the line.

06:03:43.400 You know this.

06:03:43.880 We don't have four more years to gamble with.

06:03:46.060 Another one is saying that you shouldn't be shocked. 0.90

06:03:48.680 Half of America is racist.

06:03:50.740 And then we have AOC who said she's not going to comment on today's election results,

06:03:54.880 but that she's seen this coming for a long time.

06:03:56.920 The Latino community would go red. 1.00

06:03:58.560 So she's also mad about Florida.

06:04:00.880 And Jimmy Kimmel said, this is like being awake during your own surgery.

06:04:03.920 So it seems they're having some lukewarm meltdowns.

06:04:06.940 But I will be here giving you guys updates if we have anything else interesting.

06:04:10.360 So thank you.

06:04:11.200 Hang on.

06:04:12.180 Just one second.

06:04:13.480 Just a nice little...

06:04:15.560 By the way, I do enjoy the... 1.00

06:04:17.560 I do enjoy, Chank, doing a takeoff on the electoral stupidity of losing an election to Donald Trump. 0.98

06:04:26.740 I will just remind you that in 2020, he did run for Congress, right, in a special election. 0.98

06:04:31.960 In 2018.

06:04:33.280 No, it was 2020.

06:04:34.380 Was it?

06:04:34.640 Because it was to replace Katie Hill after Katie Hill resigned.

06:04:37.000 He had to drop out.

06:04:38.600 And he came in fourth in the primaries.

06:04:42.760 In second.

06:04:43.700 Fourth in the primaries.

06:04:45.380 He won a grand total of 6.6% of the vote.

06:04:48.360 After, you'll recall, Bernie Sanders endorsed him and then unendorsed him.

06:04:51.880 So, yeah, there is electoral genius, Chank Iger, 1.00

06:04:54.420 really doing yeoman's work on behalf of me.

06:04:56.900 I said that I thought you would enjoy it.

06:04:59.320 Because how could you not enjoy it?

06:05:01.680 I mean, this isn't a...

06:05:03.080 Chank is not a guy with whom you're going to have conversations about how to remake the country

06:05:08.240 into some sort of better left and better right.

06:05:10.540 It's a guy who...

06:05:12.360 Well...

06:05:12.840 Here's some good news.

06:05:13.480 Oregon, where Portland is happening,

06:05:15.280 Oregon has now decriminalized possession of all drugs,

06:05:18.300 including coke, heroin, and meth.

06:05:19.880 Doubtime.

06:05:20.780 Doubtime.

06:05:21.220 Good times in Oregon.

06:05:22.360 They need some more drugs in there. 0.90

06:05:23.040 These DMT Reese's Pieces are...

06:05:25.340 And also, Greg, Joe Rogan has moved to Oregon.

06:05:30.980 He just turned his car around, actually, on the way to Texas.

06:05:34.380 And Ruben just said he was staying in California.

06:05:38.280 Can we...

06:05:39.280 How does decriminalization work, by the way?

06:05:41.420 Did they just make it legal?

06:05:43.600 Or did they just remove all the penalties?

06:05:45.440 They made it legal.

06:05:47.680 Well, decriminalization means that you can get fined, I think.

06:05:50.880 Yeah.

06:05:51.280 See, this is what I...

06:05:52.520 Decriminalization is the worst kind of soft tyranny,

06:05:55.780 because it leads to capriciousness in the government.

06:05:58.620 If you're going to have a law, enforce the law.

06:06:01.420 If we agree that the law is wrong, then change the law.

06:06:04.840 The worst thing is to say we're going to have a law,

06:06:07.400 but it doesn't matter very much,

06:06:09.080 because it erodes the entire idea of equal justice, right?

06:06:12.440 It erodes the entire idea of law.

06:06:14.840 Well, let's also agree that just the federal Schedule I designation

06:06:21.100 of controlled substances is being wildly misapplied.

06:06:24.440 There's two criteria that matter,

06:06:27.260 one of which is that there's no medical value whatsoever,

06:06:30.440 and then there has to be a high capacity for harm.

06:06:32.960 And we have things on that list where neither of these things is true.

06:06:36.980 And so there's also the question that you have to figure out

06:06:39.900 how the law should be implemented once you've come up with a schema for it

06:06:43.300 that's not even being implemented consistently.

06:06:45.740 But I do want to get back to this issue about the idea of

06:06:49.500 what do we make of, let's say, Kamala Harris tweeting out this cartoon

06:06:53.240 about equity versus equality,

06:06:54.960 where she manages to drop the G on the end of gerunds and things

06:06:59.520 in order to get a black vernacular sort of a feel to what she's doing. 1.00

06:07:04.920 You mean our African-American, Indian, Jamaican candidate for vice president?

06:07:09.900 Yeah.

06:07:12.140 Well, it is interesting.

06:07:13.680 We used to say things like, you know, I am a licensed physician

06:07:17.560 or I am a physicist, and now you say, as a Peruvian of color.

06:07:25.500 Please enlighten me.

06:07:26.840 That is the new designation of whether you have something to say.

06:07:31.300 Nobody quite knows what to make of this mainstreaming of incoherent,

06:07:39.560 beyond communism belief structures.

06:07:43.920 So, you know, coming from a background which had plenty of communists in it,

06:07:47.820 the aphorism I always thought was from each according to his ability

06:07:51.000 to each according to his needs.

06:07:52.280 And despite the fact that that uses a third-person gendered pronoun,

06:07:57.260 the other problem with it is...

06:07:59.940 I can't believe you guys are laughing.

06:08:02.880 Well, we're insensitive.

06:08:04.840 That's the way it works.

06:08:05.920 No.

06:08:06.760 The other problem with that is that it acknowledges that people have different abilities.

06:08:11.520 Right.

06:08:12.120 Right?

06:08:12.740 So the idea is we are so far beyond communism, we don't even have language.

06:08:16.520 And, you know, my feeling about this is I do think we're going to have to take care of people.

06:08:22.780 The market is not doing a good job with distribution issues,

06:08:25.500 and part of the problem is political economy gets plowed back into the situation,

06:08:31.580 causing a positive feedback nightmare.

06:08:34.380 However, I think that what we have to do is we have to repudiate ideologies that do not compile.

06:08:42.300 And the great benefit of far-left ideology is that because it doesn't make sense,

06:08:48.580 it's very hard to argue with something that gives up on consistency at the outset.

06:08:54.620 Remember, the principle of explosion says that in any intellectual system,

06:08:59.020 if you allow a single contradiction, anything can be deduced.

06:09:02.440 So largely, the left, who is beyond any place I've ever been,

06:09:07.240 is trying to smuggle one contradiction through airport security

06:09:10.260 so that they can have everything on the other side.

06:09:14.540 Didn't they actually do that, though, with LGBTQ, right? 1.00

06:09:17.740 Once you lump transsexuals in with homosexuals, you've created your contradiction.

06:09:24.940 If the entire argument for the last 40 years is that...

06:09:29.940 Biological sex is immutable, right? 1.00

06:09:32.280 Yes.

06:09:32.620 I'm born this way.

06:09:33.580 I'm born this way.

06:09:34.280 Biological sex is immutable. 1.00

06:09:35.320 And then you also say that within that same framework, gender is a social construct.

06:09:41.500 Haven't you baked that fundamental contradiction?

06:09:43.920 Well, there was a big headline that came out.

06:09:45.740 This is a real headline that came out last week,

06:09:47.620 that a woman realized she was a lesbian after her husband realized he was really a woman.

06:09:52.340 So nothing has changed in their marriage at all.

06:09:54.340 But they've both fundamentally changed their sexual preferences and identity.

06:09:58.120 So, look...

06:09:58.960 Hot, man.

06:09:59.680 It's hot.

06:10:00.240 Yeah.

06:10:00.680 I saw the picture.

06:10:01.720 It was...

06:10:02.240 Great.

06:10:03.000 That's what you guys get off on.

06:10:04.560 You know, look, there's a bigger and better issue.

06:10:10.680 The fact that the far left can't play its cards properly doesn't mean that they don't

06:10:14.980 have a point.

06:10:16.180 And part of the problem is, is that you guys have to steal, man, if you want to understand

06:10:20.380 what's going on.

06:10:21.180 So is there a difference...

06:10:22.820 You know, if I were a lungi or a kilt, are you telling me that that is feminine, not in

06:10:27.960 South Asia or Scotland, respectively?

06:10:29.640 On the other hand, a skirt is gendered inside of the constructs of the United States. 1.00

06:10:36.160 So you guys even will admit to the idea that there is some variability, that these things

06:10:41.640 aren't set at the factory.

06:10:42.960 There's nothing intrinsically masculine or feminine about the concept of a skirt.

06:10:47.180 Right.

06:10:47.420 But all of those cultures also recognize the difference between male and female garb.

06:10:50.460 That's true.

06:10:51.440 But on the other hand, you have lots of situations.

06:10:53.500 For example, the Ayatollah Khomeini allowed for sex transitions in a fatwa.

06:10:58.880 Right.

06:10:59.260 South Sulawesi, you, I think, have five identified genders.

06:11:03.120 Intersex is the one thing which I always reach out to my conservative friends, which is you

06:11:09.700 guys should...

06:11:10.360 You should start steering on the basis of intersex. 1.00

06:11:13.560 We have people, we have dudes who have uteruses. 1.00

06:11:18.340 I always bring up persistent Mullerian duct syndrome, and you can...

06:11:22.260 But that's an actual biological syndrome.

06:11:23.740 That's exactly right.

06:11:24.800 That's not the...

06:11:25.400 There's still biological reality.

06:11:26.800 Like, an objective outside viewer of the situation could tell that there was an objective thing

06:11:31.000 happening.

06:11:31.380 This is my point.

06:11:31.860 This is our opportunity to come together, which is you have to recognize, for example, that

06:11:36.260 the third person singular pronouns in English are inflected for gender, unlike in something

06:11:40.980 like Turkish, where they are not. 0.98

06:11:42.500 So, what you don't do is you never have the third person singular and plural pronoun be

06:11:48.300 the same. 0.95

06:11:48.840 So, using they is ridiculous. 0.98

06:11:51.040 Right.

06:11:51.460 On the other hand, you can imagine a one-time, backwards incompatible change in the language

06:11:56.800 as we did when we stopped inflecting the honorific for females with marital status.

06:12:01.320 But it is worth pointing out, the OED does define he as gender-neutral as well as gendered,

06:12:06.160 and man the same way.

06:12:07.420 In the beginning, God created man, both male and female.

06:12:09.680 He created them, and then the women, W-I-M-M-I-N, or however they spelled it in the 70s, took 1.00

06:12:15.260 umbrage at this fact, but it did have, it was understood in the English language.

06:12:19.940 It was understood, but it had a particular, it had a particular bias.

06:12:23.080 But everything you're saying.

06:12:23.640 If you want to make fun of these people for not making sense, that's not the place to

06:12:27.820 do it.

06:12:28.080 You can say, look, there is a version of this story in which we have neglected people who

06:12:32.700 don't fall neatly into a sexual identification category, either in terms of who they're attracted

06:12:38.140 to or what they are.

06:12:38.940 No, the thing that's mockable is the statement that there is no such thing as a biological

06:12:42.360 dichotomy between male and female. 0.86

06:12:44.260 That is mockable.

06:12:45.480 That is mockable on its face.

06:12:46.620 The idea that sex is so malleable and gender is so malleable that a man being fully biological

06:12:51.860 male can call himself a female, and we are all supposed to pretend that that person is 0.94

06:12:56.180 now a biological female, that's absurd on its face.

06:12:58.880 Yeah, but you know, Ben, even there, and again, I don't want to reveal too much about our conversations,

06:13:04.220 but you and I have talked about the fact that when you've been faced with somebody who's

06:13:07.380 in a great deal of distress over your particular comments on pronouns, that you take a compassionate

06:13:12.440 humanist view, and you don't want to irritate that person.

06:13:15.000 Your point has been that I don't want to give up this argument if that's what we're discussing,

06:13:19.920 if what we're discussing is pronouns.

06:13:21.720 Public treatment of issues is that mercy is a part of human life, but that does not mean

06:13:27.980 that the broad standard shouldn't be justice.

06:13:29.860 You slipped from one point to another.

06:13:32.220 I've made the speech that you're making right now in college.

06:13:36.080 Did you do it better?

06:13:37.080 So much better.

06:13:37.960 I was brilliant.

06:13:38.880 It was amazing.

06:13:39.960 No, I mean, look, nature is messy, and the dots that go with masculinity, they generally

06:13:46.860 collect with men.

06:13:48.520 They are spread out in this weird way, but everything you're saying, everything you're

06:13:53.380 saying is taking place within a context of male and female.

06:13:57.000 It's taking place within a context, a basic context, a norm.

06:14:00.260 Let's call it what it is.

06:14:01.380 It's a norm of male and female. 0.82

06:14:02.600 It comes out of nature, and I want to be able to, you know, science is sort of an absolute

06:14:06.640 defense.

06:14:07.560 You can't ask me to negate the science as a scientist when it contradicts political ideology.

06:14:15.120 All I'm trying to suggest is that we had a lot to do that we could have done on intersex

06:14:21.580 and on separating gender from sexuality, just doing it in an intellectually rigorous and

06:14:30.900 respectful fashion.

06:14:32.680 And then we could get to this issue, for example, of the umbrella category.

06:14:35.780 The reason that trans is so controversial is like stroke.

06:14:39.160 Stroke, you can get strokes from clotting, and you can get strokes from having blood that's

06:14:43.040 too thin.

06:14:43.840 So the fact that you're talking about a stroke doesn't give you enough information.

06:14:47.800 You need extra information because the term is overloaded.

06:14:52.040 Well, the trans category is overloaded. 0.98

06:14:54.000 Yeah.

06:14:54.160 I mean, all of this is, I think, interesting and worthy of conversation.

06:14:58.640 The biggest problem is we keep coming back to is that literally these conversations are

06:15:02.780 not possible.

06:15:03.900 They are not possible.

06:15:04.880 I've literally had these exact conversations with people on the most popular left-wing podcast

06:15:09.880 in America outside of the podcast and said, we should do a crossover because it'll be

06:15:13.040 huge numbers.

06:15:13.740 Yeah.

06:15:14.040 And the person I was speaking to, I won't mention any names, specifically said, your

06:15:19.080 people would be fine with having that conversation publicly.

06:15:21.180 My people would literally kill me.

06:15:22.680 And that's where it lies.

06:15:25.300 I know that we have to do more election updates because I know that there is a presidential

06:15:28.660 election.

06:15:29.520 And people are in our chat room right now saying, stop talking about things that matter.

06:15:34.320 All we want to know is what Cabot says is happening in the Rust Belt.

06:15:38.160 So, Eric, thank you so much for being with us.

06:15:40.320 We're going to see what Cabot has to say.

06:15:41.740 Okay.

06:15:42.220 Well, good luck to you all.

06:15:43.660 What does Cabot think about intersexuality?

06:15:46.440 What do they think in the Rust Belt about intersexuality?

06:15:48.960 Cabot.

06:15:51.020 What do they think in the Rust Belt about intersectionality?

06:15:53.960 I don't know about that, but we do have some updates and kind of piggybacking on that AOC

06:15:57.560 tweet.

06:15:58.340 Unfortunately, she's not the only Democrat now that's using this talking point that we're not

06:16:02.840 going to know who the winner is tonight, guys.

06:16:04.780 I'm sorry.

06:16:06.080 I'm really sorry.

06:16:06.960 Yep.

06:16:07.240 And I will say that my bingo card, the last word I needed was the guys downstairs saying

06:16:11.200 intersexuality.

06:16:12.280 So, I just got five in a row in bingo.

06:16:13.880 So, I'm set.

06:16:14.860 I'm sure some other viewers are as well.

06:16:16.400 There's a tweet coming out, to your point, from Bloomberg.

06:16:19.400 There's a Bloomberg reporter.

06:16:20.260 She says, according to sources in states, this is state officials she's referring to, Wisconsin

06:16:24.400 says there's no way they are announcing a winner tonight.

06:16:26.680 Michigan officials say they need until Friday.

06:16:28.820 Pennsylvania said they aren't coming out anytime soon either.

06:16:31.460 So, if you had champagne ready on either side to expect to be able to celebrate tonight,

06:16:35.820 you may want to hold your horses there.

06:16:37.380 So, to give a breakdown of what the numbers are in those states right now, Wisconsin, 72%

06:16:42.100 reporting.

06:16:42.680 President Trump holding strong, 52% to Biden's 46.6%.

06:16:47.180 In Michigan, where there's 52% in, President Trump up 54.5% to Biden's 43.3%.

06:16:52.700 We're still waiting on a lot of results from Wayne County.

06:16:54.800 So, we're going to certainly expect that gap to be narrowed quite quickly.

06:16:58.520 Pennsylvania, 55% in, President Trump up 56% to 41% in Pennsylvania with 55% in.

06:17:04.940 Again, still waiting for a lot of results.

06:17:06.460 So, that gap will likely be narrowing.

06:17:08.800 We've also had a lot of viewers commenting, asking about Virginia.

06:17:11.380 They're saying why, you know, Virginia was called so soon by Fox.

06:17:14.320 No one else has called it since.

06:17:15.760 President Trump has been leading throughout the night.

06:17:17.640 What's going on?

06:17:18.480 To answer those questions, we've talked to some people in Virginia.

06:17:20.940 And from what we've been able to gather, the main holdup is Fairfax County.

06:17:24.400 So, this is a northern Virginia county that is going about 3 to 1, or about 75% of the

06:17:29.700 county is going to Biden.

06:17:30.880 And there are 400,000 uncounted votes in Fairfax County that came in early.

06:17:35.720 So, if that same ratio holds up, if it's about 75 to 25 for Biden, that's where he's going

06:17:40.780 to make up the gap that there is right now, because there is a gap.

06:17:44.280 And President Trump's still holding strong in the betting market, something we've been

06:17:47.020 touching on there.

06:17:47.940 Where's the money going?

06:17:48.860 Still going towards President Trump.

06:17:50.400 And one more thing to add, New York Times prediction in Georgia had climbed all the way

06:17:54.460 up into the 80% for Trump.

06:17:56.200 It seems like he's losing a little momentum in Georgia.

06:17:58.460 He's down to 62% of the New York Times prediction there.

06:18:01.740 So, still favored to win by the New York Times models, but it is starting to drop a little

06:18:05.620 bit in Georgia.

06:18:06.280 And we earlier talked about the correlation between the Senate races and the presidential.

06:18:10.780 race.

06:18:11.380 What's happening in Iowa?

06:18:12.800 Because that's a race where a lot of people are paying attention to.

06:18:15.300 Is Joni Ernst going to be able to keep her safe?

06:18:16.900 It appears that she will.

06:18:17.980 Last we checked, Joni Ernst was up about four points with 82% reporting.

06:18:22.240 So, it looks like Joni Ernst is going to retain her position in the Senate, which is

06:18:25.900 huge for Republicans.

06:18:27.260 Suzanne Collins also looking like she will be retaining her position based on the way that

06:18:31.220 the election results are looking right now.

06:18:33.240 So, where we stand now, guys, is it's looking like White House toss-up at this point might

06:18:39.640 not, unfortunately, get an answer tonight.

06:18:41.600 And I must say, I have to throw this in there.

06:18:43.300 There are plausible scenarios where there is a 269 to 269 tie.

06:18:48.460 Don't say it.

06:18:49.160 It's 2020.

06:18:49.920 It could happen, Cabin.

06:18:50.940 It's not going to take that much for it to happen either.

06:18:53.420 If the president wins Pennsylvania and a few other states, and Biden holds where he is

06:18:58.280 right now, and then wins Minnesota and Michigan, we're at 269 to 269.

06:19:02.580 Okay.

06:19:03.120 And so, White House, undecided at this point, could be a toss-up.

06:19:08.180 It looks like Senate Republicans are going to hold?

06:19:10.740 It does look.

06:19:11.660 Based on the projections right now, if things go in the right direction, it's going to be

06:19:15.280 likely around 51 to 52 for Republicans.

06:19:17.940 But it's looking like worst-case scenario right now is a 50-50 tie in the Senate.

06:19:22.920 So, then the vice president would be?

06:19:25.220 Then the vice president would be presiding over any tied votes, which Vice President Pence,

06:19:29.060 you can imagine him doing that.

06:19:30.500 I'm already having terrifying images of Kamala Harris coming in, walking down the aisle straight 0.99

06:19:35.780 up, and letting everyone know that she's there to preside. 0.96

06:19:38.700 Yeah, I'm sure she'd love that over her former colleagues.

06:19:41.180 I could just see her like that really happy grin on her face.

06:19:44.320 I'm having trouble thinking about anything else besides that.

06:19:46.140 It's scaring me.

06:19:46.660 We're going to stay on top of all the data, though, keep you up to date.

06:19:49.560 But the big summary here right now is that, according to Bloomberg reports, state officials

06:19:53.600 are saying, hold your horses.

06:19:55.520 Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin could be until Friday before we have all the results.

06:19:59.260 Okay, guys, we're going to keep seeing what members want to talk about.

06:20:02.300 Thank you for that very detailed update.

06:20:04.100 Once again, things that we have, the contacts on the ground, and thank you guys for working

06:20:09.360 so hard.

06:20:09.920 We're going to get back to the war room, and then we will get you guys some more information

06:20:13.200 as soon as possible.

06:20:14.020 So Georgia is a mess.

06:20:19.700 They're now saying that it could be tilting toward Biden again, so late votes coming in

06:20:24.000 there.

06:20:24.760 There's a lot of controversy over at Fox, and some of the commentators that are like Katie

06:20:27.740 Pavlich, very angry at Fox for having called Arizona early, although the vote would have

06:20:32.080 to come in very late and very heavy for Trump to still win.

06:20:35.380 Arizona, Minnesota has been called for Biden, which was kind of Trump's, that was his wish

06:20:41.660 state.

06:20:42.280 That was going to be the one where if he won Minnesota in replacement for Arizona, for

06:20:46.120 example, that would help him.

06:20:47.200 That leaves Nevada as the only flippable state for Trump at this point.

06:20:51.700 Iowa, the polls were dead, right?

06:20:53.280 So it looks, the one thing that I think we can bank on is that it looks very much like

06:20:58.180 the Republicans hold the Senate.

06:20:59.520 They actually pick up some seats in the House and we will see where Trump is tomorrow or

06:21:05.760 the day after is what that looks like.

06:21:07.860 So the good news is that the downside risk for Republicans just went down pretty significantly

06:21:12.120 because President Biden with the Republican Senate and a less, actually a less heavy House

06:21:19.140 majority is a very different Joe Biden administration than Joe Biden with a Democratic Senate and

06:21:24.100 a Democratic House and no checks.

06:21:26.120 And now, like, well, it just means, for example, the filibuster ain't gone.

06:21:28.300 Yeah.

06:21:28.560 The filibuster sticks around.

06:21:29.760 The filibuster ain't gone.

06:21:30.760 No court packing.

06:21:31.880 No new states.

06:21:32.680 I mean, that is a massive, massive thing.

06:21:34.860 And also the next election cycle, 2022, very much favors Republicans.

06:21:38.340 There are a lot of vulnerable Democrats in purple states in those elections.

06:21:43.160 So that would, you know, presumably rare, you know, in a president's first midterm that

06:21:48.280 he picks up seats.

06:21:49.480 Right, exactly.

06:21:50.260 Right, right.

06:21:50.480 So, you know, that's the good news.

06:21:55.360 That is the good news from tonight.

06:21:56.720 The good news from tonight is that Republicans look like they're going to walk away with the

06:22:00.900 Senate.

06:22:01.040 By the way, I didn't make any predictions on the air.

06:22:03.340 Drew, I told you this was going to happen earlier today.

06:22:05.200 Did I not?

06:22:05.440 Yeah, you did.

06:22:05.820 You did.

06:22:06.320 I said that was going to happen.

06:22:07.100 I said that people ask for predictions.

06:22:09.940 You know, again, I have hesitated to make public predictions about the presidential race.

06:22:13.200 I told you, I did say that my gut was, I will say, it's hard to say this guy didn't

06:22:18.120 say publicly, but I did say that my gut was that Trump was, that Biden was ahead narrowly

06:22:21.580 on points and that the Republicans would retain the Senate.

06:22:24.600 Yeah.

06:22:24.740 I mean, I did, that was sort of my off the air prediction.

06:22:27.220 So we'll see if that holds up.

06:22:28.500 Obviously, I hope that I'm wrong about Trump.

06:22:30.320 Losing Arizona is a major blow to his hopes because it means that he now has to win.

06:22:34.060 He has to sweep Nebraska.

06:22:35.440 That means Omaha.

06:22:36.580 Right.

06:22:36.740 Well, Omaha is pretty, pretty blue.

06:22:38.540 Yeah.

06:22:38.660 Or it means that he has to pick up Wisconsin and or Michigan plus Pennsylvania.

06:22:44.980 So he has to do really well there.

06:22:47.680 So that's sort of where things stand.

06:22:49.560 We're not going to know anything the rest of the night.

06:22:51.420 I mean, basically, we could we could call this thing if we wanted to, but we're not going

06:22:54.740 to.

06:22:55.320 We're going to keep going.

06:22:56.740 We're going to keep going for the next four days.

06:22:59.000 I am just joking.

06:23:00.100 We're not going anywhere, guys.

06:23:02.320 Ever for the rest of time.

06:23:04.340 So may I make a cultural comment here for a moment?

06:23:07.140 Absolutely not.

06:23:07.800 We've got to talk about Nebraska.

06:23:09.300 No, I have to say the thing that's been like just sticking in my head all night long is 0.99

06:23:16.200 the level, obviously not among us because we're idiots, but the level of conversation 0.98

06:23:20.300 of the people that we've had on Ron DeSantis, Megyn Kelly, Megyn Kelly off cable news, sitting 0.98

06:23:27.160 here talking to us just like as a person.

06:23:29.260 Yeah.

06:23:29.460 What an intelligent, graceful woman. 1.00

06:23:31.960 Yeah.

06:23:32.180 You know, nuanced.

06:23:34.260 Her comments were intelligent, insightful.

06:23:36.260 You know, but just like the kind of person where you sit there and go like, oh, I met

06:23:39.840 this really bright woman who really understands and has a lot of experience in understanding

06:23:43.860 things.

06:23:45.880 Then you have chink. 1.00

06:23:49.080 I mean, but I think it's a fair comparison because chink is not that much different than 1.00

06:23:53.600 CNN.

06:23:54.340 He's not that much different than ABC.

06:23:55.680 Obviously, you know, I mean, this is a different level.

06:23:59.300 Obviously, the conversation we're just having is on a different level.

06:24:02.280 But just the fact that we're going to have these conversations makes us the go to place,

06:24:08.180 not just the Daily Wire, but the Daily Wire.

06:24:11.720 But but also any place that's willing to have these conversations.

06:24:14.840 Yeah.

06:24:15.220 Yeah.

06:24:15.900 Well, yeah.

06:24:16.460 I mean, again, this is a much better.

06:24:18.080 Let's put this way.

06:24:18.560 It's much better tonight in terms of the actual polling numbers.

06:24:22.200 In terms of it's much better than anybody thought that it was going to be just a few

06:24:27.200 hours ago.

06:24:28.300 Right.

06:24:28.480 I mean, like if you had said at the beginning of the night that Trump was going to pick

06:24:31.240 up North Carolina, Florida, Georgia, and that Republicans were going to retain the

06:24:36.640 Senate, then that would have been considered a pretty good night going in, considering

06:24:41.120 that the broad broadest.

06:24:42.680 By the way, Fox News just retracted their call for Biden in Arizona.

06:24:45.920 Yeah.

06:24:46.120 What a mess.

06:24:46.740 I knew it when they called it.

06:24:48.020 I knew that was true.

06:24:48.800 Honestly, these outlets have to stop.

06:24:50.500 They have to stop calling these things so damned early.

06:24:53.100 And they call them while the votes are still like and they were doing it, by the way.

06:24:55.960 Fox announced they were doing this based on exit polling plus early data.

06:24:59.580 You can't do it based on the exit polling.

06:25:01.300 That's right.

06:25:01.820 A thousand times.

06:25:02.800 You just cannot do this.

06:25:04.060 It's certainly lost its way.

06:25:05.920 I mean, there's no question about this.

06:25:07.600 You know, when you have when when John Nolte is going after Fox, you know that they've

06:25:10.920 lost their way.

06:25:12.540 They're not.

06:25:13.080 Yeah.

06:25:13.280 I'm not entirely sure that Fox has lost its way.

06:25:16.280 Really?

06:25:16.800 I think that our perspective on Fox is has always been flawed.

06:25:22.420 I think that we've always loved Fox because they are unique among cable news.

06:25:27.660 Right.

06:25:28.160 In other words, the very fact that we have anything makes us happy.

06:25:32.140 Right.

06:25:32.440 No question about it.

06:25:33.340 But to say that Fox is conservative is only true because of how far left the entire establishment

06:25:41.020 media has gone.

06:25:42.180 I mean, if you think about the golden era of Fox, the primetime lineup was and it wasn't

06:25:47.420 going back.

06:25:47.940 Actually, it wasn't in primetime.

06:25:49.340 I think you fairly would say that he was the beginning of their primetime coverage at five.

06:25:52.560 You had Glenn Beck, you had not Brett Baer, who, oh, Brit Hume.

06:25:59.920 Thank you.

06:26:00.300 Brit Hume.

06:26:00.840 You had Brit Hume.

06:26:03.080 You had Sean Hannity.

06:26:05.040 You had Bill O'Reilly.

06:26:06.380 You had Greta von Sustren.

06:26:08.480 And all day you had Shep Smith.

06:26:11.620 Shep Smith, as as left as left can be.

06:26:15.160 Right.

06:26:15.240 Yeah.

06:26:15.520 Right.

06:26:16.100 Greta von Sustren.

06:26:17.600 Of the left.

06:26:19.020 Bill O'Reilly.

06:26:20.180 Not a conservative.

06:26:21.600 Not.

06:26:22.080 He would not call himself.

06:26:23.400 Not going to call himself a conservative.

06:26:24.800 Not of the left.

06:26:26.900 But more of a Trump type.

06:26:28.580 Right.

06:26:29.200 You know, center populist.

06:26:30.820 Center populist.

06:26:31.600 Yeah.

06:26:32.120 Hannity.

06:26:33.640 Certainly of the right.

06:26:34.840 Yeah.

06:26:34.980 A Republican Party guy.

06:26:37.360 Hannity.

06:26:38.520 Brit Hume and and his his predecessor, his predecessor.

06:26:42.240 Yeah.

06:26:42.700 And Brett Baer and Brit Hume.

06:26:44.360 Both.

06:26:44.800 I think that's the best actual news show on cable news.

06:26:46.780 It's the best.

06:26:47.340 The best commentary on cable news on on any.

06:26:49.920 It's the best show on TV.

06:26:50.740 Yeah, for sure.

06:26:51.900 And Glenn Beck, who was a true ideological conservative.

06:26:55.200 Right.

06:26:55.580 At that time.

06:26:56.080 So if you really think about that lineup, that is a far more diverse lineup than CNN has,

06:27:02.620 than MSNBC has. 0.84

06:27:03.700 And their most important show on Sunday.

06:27:05.020 This is not my complaint.

06:27:05.860 This is not my complaint.

06:27:06.660 For me, the core of Fox News has always been Brett Baer or Brit Hume.

06:27:10.400 That new show, which has just delivered a fair new show with a conversation at the end

06:27:14.760 that slanted right, kind of like The Wall Street Journal, but included left wing.

06:27:18.120 That's right.

06:27:18.540 Use more left wing views than you'd find right wing views anywhere else.

06:27:22.080 My my problem is, is that they seem to have lost the capacity to gather information objectively.

06:27:30.120 And the core of that loss is in exactly here.

06:27:34.820 That they are no longer gathering polling information with a with a with restraint.

06:27:40.220 And what you're saying, they're calling things too early.

06:27:42.360 They're obviously getting bad information.

06:27:45.040 They're they're trying to compete with the machinery of the networks without the machinery.

06:27:49.780 There's a lot of suspicion, by the way, on in terms of who was actually making the calls at the Fox News desk,

06:27:55.120 because the person is a registered Democrat.

06:27:57.080 And so there's a lot of talk about how that person might allow their biases to to creep in.

06:28:01.120 And my favorite image of the night is ABC News talking about Wisconsin and said, well, you know, we have to talk about Kenosha.

06:28:09.260 We have to talk about Kenosha.

06:28:10.260 They didn't mention anything happening in Kenosha.

06:28:12.320 Somehow Donald Trump is absolutely wiping the floor with Joe Biden in Kenosha, like just killing him in Kenosha,

06:28:18.460 which, of course, makes perfect sense.

06:28:19.800 Of course, that's where those riots were.

06:28:21.420 Also, this is a big night for House Republicans.

06:28:23.320 Republicans are actually going to pick up seats in the House based on the latest stats.

06:28:26.680 The AP is called, which was Republicans winning Texas 22nd.

06:28:29.580 That was the Democrats thought they were going to flip.

06:28:31.440 And Ashley Hinson is going to defeat a sitting, sitting Democratic Congresswoman named Abby Finkenauer in Iowa. 1.00

06:28:38.400 One, she's up nearly four points.

06:28:40.160 So Republicans are poised to pick up somewhere between five and 10 seats in the selection in the House.

06:28:45.360 So they are overperforming in the Senate.

06:28:47.460 They are overperforming in the House.

06:28:49.840 And Trump is overperforming the polls.

06:28:51.860 So it's hard to see where exactly this is picking up, where this ends up.

06:28:58.580 But it's going to go for the next couple of days.

06:29:00.920 The same can end tonight.

06:29:02.320 This is going to go another couple of days.

06:29:03.300 No question.

06:29:04.700 So we're joined now by Daily Wire editor-in-chief John Bickley, who's been down in the Daily Wire war room.

06:29:10.540 He took my job.

06:29:12.680 We pay him a lot less.

06:29:15.200 Okay, that's okay.

06:29:16.040 Fine.

06:29:16.520 Enjoy your work.

06:29:18.640 Go with God.

06:29:19.440 So, how are things going, John Bickley?

06:29:23.280 They're going less well than an hour ago.

06:29:26.400 I mean, there's big developments.

06:29:28.380 There's a weird thing going on with the New York Times, this sudden shift, a dramatic shift in the chances for Trump with no – I think there's like 1% more reporting or something like that.

06:29:39.480 And it's shifted from 78% Trump to 65% Biden.

06:29:44.980 Where?

06:29:46.120 Georgia.

06:29:46.680 New York Times projection in Georgia.

06:29:48.020 I'm sorry.

06:29:48.620 Okay.

06:29:48.720 Georgia's not looking great.

06:29:51.760 Arizona's been called by most folks at this point.

06:29:54.500 That's a blow.

06:29:57.060 Pennsylvania, when are we going to learn?

06:29:59.080 How many days from now are we going to learn what happens with Pennsylvania?

06:30:01.600 Trump's doing really well so far.

06:30:04.160 It feels like a setup.

06:30:05.920 Yeah, it does.

06:30:06.620 Here it goes.

06:30:07.560 No matter what, he's probably going to go –

06:30:09.060 Well, I mean, their attorney general actually said no matter what, he can't win.

06:30:13.100 He also gave out the Democratic phone number to people who were confused about how to vote.

06:30:17.980 So, that's not great.

06:30:19.160 It was an honest mistake.

06:30:19.820 Yeah, so that's looking tough.

06:30:23.880 You know, he still has a path.

06:30:25.860 I think Wisconsin's kind of stunning.

06:30:28.820 The developments in the House are stunning.

06:30:30.660 The Senate looks a little bit better than we thought.

06:30:34.680 So, that's good.

06:30:35.640 Yeah.

06:30:36.440 I've been predicting it's going to be 50-50.

06:30:39.480 You know, but –

06:30:40.160 Yeah.

06:30:40.520 Who's predicting it?

06:30:42.240 Me.

06:30:42.840 Oh, okay.

06:30:43.340 Yeah.

06:30:44.360 That's Pickley's own prediction.

06:30:45.960 It's really –

06:30:46.560 I just thought –

06:30:47.180 Yeah, Dartport.

06:30:49.700 So, that's –

06:30:50.400 There's some things that are positive developments.

06:30:52.420 I think this idea of another major blow to the pollsters is big.

06:30:58.700 And this is devastating.

06:31:00.140 They put so much money into Florida.

06:31:03.040 They put so much money.

06:31:05.080 My home state, love Florida.

06:31:06.560 Thank you, Florida.

06:31:07.760 They couldn't get that wrong.

06:31:11.020 Best state in America.

06:31:13.340 And they botched it.

06:31:17.060 If you look at some of those polls, you look at the average.

06:31:19.520 The average is like a 3%.

06:31:21.000 They have a 3.5% maybe loss.

06:31:24.100 Like, they got it wrong to that degree.

06:31:26.540 But then you look at specific polls and it's off by –

06:31:30.060 Ten points.

06:31:30.840 Ten points.

06:31:32.200 Some of the polls.

06:31:32.820 How does that happen?

06:31:33.940 How do you just stay a credible pollster after this?

06:31:36.400 Right.

06:31:37.340 And I don't care who you are.

06:31:39.540 Everyone associates them with the mainstream media.

06:31:42.100 It's very clear.

06:31:43.340 When you have this very homogenous narrative that forms with the polling that works perfectly in favor of the media's narrative, it just – it blows your – any attempt to sort of have a sense of confidence.

06:31:59.060 Well, this was actually the argument that we had going in, Ben and Drew and I in particular earlier today, in which – I'm going to claim a little credit here.

06:32:07.240 My argument has been that the polling organizations actually favor their client, which is establishment media, more than they favor accuracy.

06:32:17.360 In other words, you might say, well, they have a – they need to get it right or no one will use them.

06:32:21.260 But I liken it to Hollywood producers making anti-Iraq war movies in the early 2000s that, no, by signaling your virtue and reinforcing the narrative that we want reinforced, we will continue hiring you because you're saying what we want to hear.

06:32:34.120 The fact that it is the mainstream – I keep using – they're not mainstream – the establishment of legacy media that actually writes the checks for these polls must have some effect, especially when you see them as wrong as they are tonight.

06:32:48.240 But the problem with that theory is that places like the Wall Street Journal, which skews left in their news coverage, but just a little left, does have a big investment in being reliable.

06:32:59.400 They have a big investment in coming across as –

06:33:02.860 I think that – I used to think that was true.

06:33:04.560 I actually don't believe that that's true.

06:33:05.920 I think that what's going on right now is that polling in the age of Trump particularly, as we see realignment, is an incredibly difficult business and basically is reading chicken on trails.

06:33:15.180 Sure.

06:33:15.700 The coalitions were very steady in 2000, 2004, 2008.

06:33:22.260 They were pretty steady.

06:33:23.060 The polls weren't particularly wrong there.

06:33:24.360 2012 even, they were pretty steady.

06:33:25.840 But Trump really shook up the map in a major way, and they've never been able to grasp exactly how the map was shaken up.

06:33:32.800 Plus, technologically, it's tough.

06:33:34.540 Right.

06:33:34.940 I mean, also, the technological shift is being wildly underrated here, which is that they are not allowed – you're not allowed by federal law to cold call people on their cell phone, right?

06:33:42.320 I mean, you're not really supposed to cold call people on their cell phone, I believe.

06:33:45.300 And you can be fined – I've been on campaigns that have been fined a lot of money for calling people on their cell phones, so they do shy away from it.

06:33:51.940 Right.

06:33:52.180 So what that means is that you are going to tend to oversample elderly people who have – I mean, I don't even have a landline, right?

06:33:58.640 And a lot of people don't have a landline anymore, so it makes it very, very difficult to poll.

06:34:01.780 Who answers those?

06:34:04.020 Right.

06:34:04.460 So polling is a difficult business.

06:34:06.620 That's why people have been looking at sort of the average of the polls.

06:34:09.140 But what was Trump's final margin of victory in Florida?

06:34:12.440 Three?

06:34:13.200 Is that they're saying three or four?

06:34:14.660 2.5.

06:34:15.640 2.5.

06:34:16.220 So the RCP average had Biden up 0.9, so they were off by about 3.4 points in the final average, which is a lot in an average of averages.

06:34:26.800 Trafalgar got it right.

06:34:28.260 Trafalgar got it right.

06:34:29.300 They said Trump plus two.

06:34:30.840 They were the only group to have it right, basically.

06:34:33.320 And this is the problem with – I love the RCP site because of their great editorial collections and their videos and all this.

06:34:40.200 But the fact – the idea of an average of polls is kind of ridiculous because some of these polls are way wrong.

06:34:47.760 Well, the RCP is better than 538, so 538 didn't even include Trafalgar.

06:34:51.660 No.

06:34:52.420 538 had –

06:34:52.980 They rejected it out of hand.

06:34:54.080 Right.

06:34:54.320 They said that this is a partisan poll, so we're not going to include it.

06:34:57.140 But some of these polls that are included are Quinnipiac, and Quinnipiac is basically wrong about everything.

06:35:01.780 Quinnipiac is wrong.

06:35:01.980 But this is my argument.

06:35:03.120 This is my entire argument about the polling organizations and the media.

06:35:06.060 I don't think that they any longer have to worry about their reputation for accuracy.

06:35:10.900 I don't think the Wall Street Journal newsroom cares.

06:35:13.200 I don't think that they – I think they have realized since Obama – Obama broke the media.

06:35:18.560 Since Obama, they are no longer held to any standard except the standard of speaking the narrative, except the standard – I think that before Barack Obama, a reporter could be very biased.

06:35:32.440 The media could lean 70-30 left because of the intrinsic biases, the fact that it draws a certain group of people.

06:35:39.400 Nevertheless, if you were an individual journalist, even a journalist of the left, you by and large believed as foundational ethics that you had to speak truth and in particular speak truth to power.

06:35:49.580 Then Barack Obama came along, and by the unique virtue of his blackness against the backdrop of America's history of slavery, Jim Crow, and racism, that actually made him a figure that could not be criticized by media.

06:36:08.220 Also, because he's more of a religious aspirational figure, they didn't want to criticize him.

06:36:12.860 And what Barack Obama said to the media is, no longer is your foundational ethics speaking truth to power.

06:36:18.880 Your foundational ethic is helping to fundamentally transform the world into a better place.

06:36:23.900 Comedy.

06:36:25.120 Yes, comedy by virtue of the people it attracts and their biases, always 70-30 left.

06:36:29.760 And yet, Jay Leno couldn't have faced himself in the 90s if he hadn't made Monica Lewinsky jokes.

06:36:34.820 Saturday Night Live, they couldn't have called themselves comedians if they didn't make Monica Lewinsky jokes.

06:36:40.580 Then comes along Barack Obama. 0.86

06:36:42.320 By virtue of his blackness against the backdrop of American slavery, I know I'm right about this because the head writer for SNL said he's like a large wall of obsidian. 0.91

06:36:51.860 Obsidian, yeah.

06:36:52.280 Because a pure, faultless slab of obsidian. 0.88

06:36:57.000 In other words, because he's perfect and black, there is nothing funny about him. 1.00

06:37:01.360 And no longer was the job of a comedian to shine light on truth through comedy.

06:37:08.520 Now the job was to promote the narrative.

06:37:10.500 In other words, Barack Obama uniquely, same with academia, same with many of these institutions, he changed the foundational ethic of them.

06:37:16.860 And the foundational ethic of a journalist in America today, the foundational ethic of a pollster in America today, is not to speak truth.

06:37:25.420 It is to speak the narrative.

06:37:26.880 And as long as they speak the narrative, they don't have to worry about people thinking that they don't have credibility.

06:37:32.560 You know, I agree with like 95% of what you just said.

06:37:36.240 What I don't agree with is, first of all, the sweep of it.

06:37:38.600 I don't think that, for instance, at the Wall Street Journal, I do think there are still people who are interested in telling some version of the truth, even though they...

06:37:45.580 Well, sure, there are some people.

06:37:46.820 But no, no, but I mean people in authority, which is...

06:37:49.120 I don't know.

06:37:49.840 Decide with Eric.

06:37:50.580 Now read the Harper's letter.

06:37:52.000 Now read Barry Weiss's...

06:37:54.040 Yeah, that's the New York Times.

06:37:54.980 Her statement about leaving.

06:37:55.880 The New York Times has absolutely no interest in telling the truth.

06:37:59.200 They will chase you out for telling the truth.

06:38:00.880 They chase Barry White out for speaking different opinions.

06:38:04.400 That doesn't really happen at the Wall Street Journal.

06:38:06.560 The last time it happened was Brett Stevens, who left because he was too far against Trump.

06:38:12.360 And that was on the...

06:38:12.980 Although Brett Stevens is on the editorial side.

06:38:14.640 And that was on the editorial side.

06:38:15.920 Exactly.

06:38:16.660 But in the newsroom, they still...

06:38:19.920 I mean, look, I can read the Wall Street Journal news side and discern the truth, which I can't do on the New York Times.

06:38:25.760 I have no idea.

06:38:26.360 When I read the New York Times, I know what the New York Times is selling me, but I don't know what the narrative is.

06:38:30.880 There are still venues.

06:38:32.120 Even CBS has a certain level of commitment to the news that hasn't been entirely corrupted, even though everything you just said is a narrative is true.

06:38:41.820 So, you know, there are individuals in unique places.

06:38:44.800 I think in terms of these pollsters, if they get things wrong, we stop listening to them.

06:38:50.100 They can't...

06:38:50.820 Well, I mean, that did happen this year.

06:38:52.540 I mean, I can't tell you how many calls I took on the show from people basically saying, can you tell me why I should listen to polls?

06:38:57.600 And you're saying, because I can't tell you not to listen to polls.

06:39:00.040 I mean, like, really, like, my answer is I don't believe all the polls, but I can't, like, completely disbelieve the polls.

06:39:06.140 I mean, now I'm operating specifically in the absence of evidence, which I refuse to do.

06:39:10.880 I mean, I'm going to say I doubt them because I do, but I can't say they mean nothing.

06:39:14.320 No, but the way you talk about the polls now is so much different than the way you talked about them four years ago.

06:39:18.740 Oh, 100%.

06:39:19.420 Well, four years ago, they weren't off that much.

06:39:22.080 I mean, as of 2012.

06:39:24.020 With 2012, there was a systemic polling error in favor of Mitt Romney.

06:39:26.900 Yeah, that's right.

06:39:27.920 Like, Romney actually got overpolled in 2012.

06:39:30.320 And in 2008, they were pretty dead on.

06:39:32.160 So by 2016, people were like, okay, they kind of know what they're doing.

06:39:35.680 And then the bottom fell out on Hillary, and Trump is such an off-the-wall character that they had no way to poll that.

06:39:40.320 They didn't know what they were doing.

06:39:41.280 And so this time around, it's like they might still not know what they're doing.

06:39:44.040 By the way, it turns out that that was a myth that Fox uncalled Arizona.

06:39:47.500 They've recalled Arizona, or they never uncalled Arizona.

06:39:49.780 That was a Twitter thing that was going around, apparently.

06:39:51.780 Wow.

06:39:52.040 And they've doubled down on the idea that Arizona is in Biden's category.

06:39:55.660 I have friends who are with the president in the White House right now saying there's a lot of confusion, even in the administration right now, about what's actually happening in some of these races.

06:40:04.900 Yeah.

06:40:05.180 I mean, Wisconsin apparently is trending toward Biden, which is what we would expect.

06:40:12.440 It looks as though Fox News decision desk is on the verge of calling Georgia in favor of Trump, even though the New York Times needle is wobbling a bit,

06:40:20.080 which means that we are where we were about 45 minutes ago, waiting on Pennsylvania or waiting on Michigan.

06:40:25.380 And we're going to be waiting a while because they've announced that none of those results are coming in, and it's going to be quite a while.

06:40:31.380 So it all comes down, as we suspected, to probably – well, now Pennsylvania and Michigan.

06:40:37.840 It's going to be – apparently in the next few minutes we are going to start getting some results from Nevada.

06:40:42.020 Now, the reason that's important is because Trump lost Arizona.

06:40:44.960 So if Trump lost Arizona, Trump needs to win Nevada.

06:40:47.360 If he wins Nevada, then he's back on track, right?

06:40:49.720 If he wins Nevada and the results from Nevada are shockingly good, which could happen, right?

06:40:53.220 One of the outstanding theories about Nevada was that the early voting and focus on mail-in voting would really hurt Democrats in a serious way

06:40:59.260 because their voter turnout efforts in Nevada are specifically geared at the restaurants and the workers and the unionized workers in the casinos.

06:41:07.760 And none of the casinos have a lot of unionized workers working right now because of COVID.

06:41:11.260 So that means that all those people are at home, and getting them from home to the polls is a different thing than putting them on a bus at the MGM Grand

06:41:17.960 and passing them to the polls as part of their union to go vote as a bloc en masse.

06:41:22.600 So it will be interesting to see if Trump does have any durability in Nevada.

06:41:26.540 If he were to pick up Nevada, that makes up for Arizona.

06:41:28.680 Then all he has to do is win Pennsylvania and Nevada, and he still wins the election.

06:41:32.300 So breaking news right now.

06:41:34.040 Joe Biden is about to take the stage in Delaware to give remarks.

06:41:37.500 Let's go to Vice President Joe Biden and hear what he has to say on this strange and unsettled evening.

06:41:44.800 Declare victory.

06:41:49.920 So where Joe Biden is about to come out, and to me it's reminiscent of what we saw in the primaries, you know,

06:41:59.060 when states were not being called, like Iowa, right?

06:42:02.020 And then we started to see people coming up on stage and giving sort of quasi-acceptance speeches that weren't acceptance speeches,

06:42:08.820 but we feel really good about what happened tonight.

06:42:11.280 And I think that that is – that's the pattern.

06:42:14.000 I think that's what we're going to see.

06:42:14.640 Yeah, but there was a difference because then you were in Iowa and you were building towards New Hampshire.

06:42:20.420 There was a reason.

06:42:21.640 Here it's a little different.

06:42:22.640 I think he's really doing it just so psychologically, if they end up in challenges, he thinks he looks stronger.

06:42:30.080 All right.

06:42:30.360 Here's the former Vice President Joe Biden with Dr. Joe Biden.

06:42:34.920 Let's listen in.

06:42:36.800 Hello.

06:42:42.280 Good evening.

06:42:44.160 Your patience is commendable.

06:42:46.080 We knew this was going to go long, but who knew we were going to go into maybe tomorrow morning, maybe even longer.

06:42:54.420 But look, we feel good about where we are.

06:42:58.880 We really do.

06:43:03.020 I'm here to tell you tonight, we believe we're on track to win this election.

06:43:07.380 We knew because of the unprecedented early vote and the mail-in vote that it's going to take a while.

06:43:19.540 We're going to have to be patient until we – the hard work of tally-in votes is finished.

06:43:25.580 And it ain't over until every vote is counted.

06:43:28.100 Every ballot is counted.

06:43:34.780 But we're feeling good.

06:43:36.240 We're feeling good about where we are.

06:43:39.760 We believe one of the nets has suggested we've already won Arizona, but we're confident about Arizona.

06:43:46.460 That's a turnaround.

06:43:48.120 We also just called it for Minnesota.

06:43:51.260 And we're still in the game in Georgia, although that's not one we expected.

06:43:58.340 And we're feeling real good about Wisconsin and Michigan.

06:44:01.700 And by the way, it's going to take time to count the votes.

06:44:09.180 We're going to win Pennsylvania.

06:44:14.980 I'm going to talk to the folks in Philly, Allegheny County, Scranton, and they're really encouraged by the turnout and what they see.

06:44:21.720 Look, you know, we could know the results as early as tomorrow morning, but it may take a little longer.

06:44:28.640 As I've said all along, it's not my place or Donald Trump's place to declare who's won this election.

06:44:34.840 That's the decision of the American people.

06:44:37.880 But I'm optimistic about this outcome.

06:44:41.520 And I want to thank every one of you who came out and voted in this election.

06:44:46.060 And by the way, Chris Coons and the Democrats, congratulations here in Delaware.

06:44:49.640 Hey, John, the Gov, yeah, the whole team, man, you've done a great job.

06:45:00.440 I'm grateful to the poll workers, to our volunteers, our canvassers, everyone who participated in this democratic process.

06:45:08.160 And I'm grateful to all my supporters here in Delaware and all across the nation.

06:45:13.260 Thank you.

06:45:14.060 Thank you.

06:45:14.600 Thank you.

06:45:15.140 And folks, you heard me say it before.

06:45:18.860 Every time I walk out of my grandpa's house up in Scranton, he'd yell, Joey, keep the faith.

06:45:24.620 And my grandmama, when she was live, he yelled, no, Joey, spread it.

06:45:28.460 Keep the faith, guys.

06:45:29.680 We're going to win this.

06:45:31.100 Thank you.

06:45:31.560 Thank you.

06:45:31.960 Thank you.

06:45:34.040 Your patience is great.

06:45:36.840 Let's walk over here.

06:45:40.920 Former Vice President Joe Biden and his wife, Jill Biden.

06:45:44.060 All right, that's enough of that.

06:45:45.540 Saying he feels good.

06:45:46.780 Count every vote.

06:45:48.680 So they're going to go call it on the night and go back to sleep.

06:45:54.280 I'm sure we're going to hear something from President Trump based on this because it's going to go into the morning hours.

06:45:59.980 That is where we are at this point in time.

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06:49:16.880 Nevada should be closing any second.

06:49:18.160 We're going to start bringing you Nevada numbers pretty soon.

06:49:20.820 Yeah, and right now, if we go to the Daily Wire War Room, we're going to hear from our very own Cassie Dillon, who has the president's reaction on Twitter as we speak. 0.58

06:49:32.860 So right now on Twitter, President Trump is responding.

06:49:36.500 We just saw Vice President Biden give a speech.

06:49:40.300 And now President Trump is saying he will be making a statement tonight, and then he said a big win.

06:49:46.320 He also said, we are up big, but they're trying to steal the election.

06:49:50.000 We will never let them do it.

06:49:51.560 Votes cannot be cast after polls are closed.

06:49:53.820 So it seems President Trump is going to continue covering this, and he's not going down without a fight.

06:49:59.200 Now let's pass it over to Alicia, who's going to give an update on the numbers.

06:50:02.840 So we saw how President Trump just reacted to what Joe Biden was saying there.

06:50:07.180 A lot of us in the war room, a lot of people that have been in politics for a long time said that his language was setting up the, we're not finished tonight, we're not giving up tonight.

06:50:17.520 His rhetoric of every vote must be counted makes it seem like the update that Cabot had earlier from officials in those states of Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, is also how the Biden campaign is kind of pivoting and making, that's their rhetoric too.

06:50:32.900 Oh, absolutely.

06:50:33.500 Like, he's completely setting the stage for what is to be expected now, which is going to be, this is going to be dragged out for a few days.

06:50:39.560 They are going to be scraping the barrel for every single vote they can find in all likelihood, as both sides would.

06:50:44.080 I think that's, like, accepted.

06:50:45.740 But the fact is we simply don't know the data.

06:50:48.300 You saw in his language, he wasn't really claiming victory.

06:50:50.560 It was more just the importance of waiting.

06:50:52.540 He's setting the stage for patient Democrats because time is good for them.

06:50:57.040 And I think that's going to frustrate Trump, head to the tweet.

06:51:00.260 Okay.

06:51:00.640 And so, also, we're seeing a lot of data, guys, just so you know, you've referenced it a little bit.

06:51:05.240 But as you guys have been having some conversations over there, some really interesting conversations, by the way, we've been seeing that projections have been changing and shifting.

06:51:13.700 And now states that were trending toward Trump-Pence, like Georgia and North Carolina, aren't the sure things that a lot of people were projecting they might be.

06:51:23.920 Yeah, I think the issue is it's just been so inconsistent.

06:51:26.020 So, I have some notes here, like, Arizona, Trump 2020 senior advisor Jason Miller said that it's way too soon to be calling Arizona.

06:51:32.880 Then there were rumors that Fox News retracted it.

06:51:35.240 They haven't, but other places haven't called Arizona.

06:51:37.400 Then there's Georgia, which, out of nowhere, suddenly started tilting Biden 67 percent, according to the New York Times.

06:51:43.520 And for us, that seemed to come out of nowhere.

06:51:45.220 The data doesn't really seem to suggest that.

06:51:47.340 Then Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, all saying they're going to be waiting to count votes.

06:51:51.920 And those, as we spoke before, they're the key states.

06:51:54.420 So, for an answer, we're just going to have to wait.

06:51:56.540 We're going to have to wait and see.

06:51:57.740 And thank you to the audience and the members that are here with us because we wouldn't be able to be here.

06:52:03.640 Oh, and we're still here for you guys if it weren't for you.

06:52:07.400 So, I'm going to ask you guys some questions.

06:52:09.940 The first one goes to Ben.

06:52:11.900 People want to know, on several occasions, Ben, you have talked about Trump's win in 2016 being a reaction to their smear of Romney in 2012.

06:52:20.500 If Trump ends up winning tonight, which, as we just discussed, nobody's going home a winner tonight, what will the left's retaliation look like in 2024?

06:52:29.180 Well, I mean, in 2024, the one thing that you can bet on, for sure, is that the Democrats are going to claim that whoever comes after Trump, and this is regardless of whether he wins or loses, is worse than Trump.

06:52:38.360 Always.

06:52:39.080 Right?

06:52:39.340 They will always say this.

06:52:40.240 So, if Nikki Haley becomes the nominee, it will be, well, at least Donald Trump wasn't a warmonger like Nikki Haley. 0.94

06:52:45.900 You know, Donald Trump was a racist, but at least he was clear about his racism. 0.94

06:52:48.600 Strange new respect for Donald Trump. 0.99

06:52:50.160 That's what we'll get. 1.00

06:52:51.060 And it'll be, Donald Trump was a racist, but he was an obvious racist. 0.96

06:52:54.080 Nikki Haley is much more subtle with her, you know, Indian background and not being a white person at all. 0.98

06:52:59.540 That's really what it'll be.

06:53:00.520 It'll be Ron DeSantis if he's the nominee.

06:53:02.820 At least Donald Trump didn't try to masquerade as a man of the people.

06:53:07.400 He was a gilded, like, it'll all turn into this revisionist history, because this happens with every single Republican.

06:53:13.080 This is why you get the strange new respect for George W. Bush, who they all thought was Hitler, back in 2006.

06:53:17.380 So, you'll get a lot of that.

06:53:20.020 If Donald Trump wins, they have the opportunity, the Democrats do, to sit with themselves for a little while and learn some lessons.

06:53:26.920 But they've shown themselves utterly unwilling to do that.

06:53:28.880 I mean, in 2016, they could have learned some lessons.

06:53:30.980 I said in 2016, all they had to do was not be crazy, and they literally could not do it. 0.62

06:53:34.600 They decided what would be a great idea is to riot in the streets and to talk about how, if you didn't vote for Joe Biden or celebrate rioting in the middle of COVID, that you are somehow a vicious racist and you ought to be fired from your job.

06:53:46.020 And a lot of people, you know, if it's not a silent majority for Trump, it's certainly a silent majority that rejects wokeism.

06:53:51.440 I think that that's pretty obvious, the woke mentality.

06:53:53.740 But I don't have a lot of faith in Democrats that they're not going to react to either a Trump victory or a narrow Biden victory with anything remotely approaching rationality,

06:54:00.600 because they haven't been rational about any of this at all, like in any way, shape or form.

06:54:08.720 Anyway, so Donald Trump, they're going.

06:54:11.940 We obviously just lost Alicia.

06:54:13.500 I don't know how that happened.

06:54:14.400 No worries.

06:54:14.760 We are going to get to more Daily Wire member questions as we go throughout the evening.

06:54:19.340 But what we're waiting on right now is Nevada.

06:54:21.640 I mean, all eyes on Nevada.

06:54:22.800 Right.

06:54:23.280 If Trump is able to somehow flip Nevada, then the loss of Arizona becomes less of a looming problem for him.

06:54:30.840 You heard Joe Biden say they weren't expecting Georgia, but they were more optimistic about Georgia.

06:54:34.400 Georgia is still a little bit up in the air, but likely to go for Trump. 0.70

06:54:37.980 At this point, if you had to ballpark this thing, you still say that Biden is probably a 60-40 favorite to be the president after all this is said and done,

06:54:44.220 just because the numbers don't seem to favor Trump heavily.

06:54:47.180 At this point, if he has to win Pennsylvania Plus, that puts him in not a wonderful position.

06:54:51.660 You want him to be not impossible, not impossible.

06:54:54.240 He could he could win Michigan.

06:54:56.120 John James is outperforming the polls there, apparently, by a pretty wide margin.

06:54:59.980 So theoretically, you could have a shocker in Michigan or a shocker in Wisconsin.

06:55:03.940 He doesn't seem to be performing in Wisconsin quite as well as he is in Michigan.

06:55:07.260 There are a lot of folks in Michigan who are sort of saying this.

06:55:09.220 I was hearing in Michigan that the polls were just wrong in Michigan, not as much in Wisconsin.

06:55:13.540 Nevada, they have some hope held out.

06:55:15.520 President Trump, of course, tweeting out about we are up big, but they are trying to steal the election.

06:55:19.200 We'll never let them do it.

06:55:20.000 Votes cannot be cast after the polls.

06:55:21.880 Are closed.

06:55:22.660 He did, in fact, about polls.

06:55:23.680 P-O-L. 1.00

06:55:24.520 Yes.

06:55:25.200 So we have to make sure.

06:55:26.640 Well, maybe he meant to put the actual.

06:55:27.940 Well, that's what I like about the president.

06:55:30.180 What I like about the president is he.

06:55:31.780 We all know.

06:55:32.300 He wants you to know it's him tweeting.

06:55:34.520 He is not an aide.

06:55:36.240 I am the real Donald Trump.

06:55:37.680 It says it right there.

06:55:38.800 Real Donald Trump.

06:55:40.380 Twitter, by the way, breaking news.

06:55:41.860 Twitter has suspended Trump's tweet.

06:55:44.660 So that very tweet that been just.

06:55:46.220 Really?

06:55:46.600 Really?

06:55:47.240 I'm not sure if it's the one that says.

06:55:48.920 Wow.

06:55:49.840 Up big or the one where he says big win.

06:55:51.780 But one of the two tweets that Cassie just brought us.

06:55:53.820 He deleted.

06:55:54.320 He deleted the misspelled polls tweet.

06:55:56.160 No, no.

06:55:56.540 One.

06:55:56.820 There is one that is now censored.

06:55:58.740 Yeah.

06:55:58.940 They were up big.

06:55:59.820 They were up big.

06:56:00.660 But they're trying to steal the election.

06:56:02.100 He did re-spell polls, though.

06:56:03.420 So now it's P-O-L-L-S. 1.00

06:56:04.900 But it does say some or all of the content shared in this tweet is disputed by us and might be misleading about an election or other civic process.

06:56:12.780 There's another warning here.

06:56:14.480 Learn about U.S. elections.

06:56:16.060 I mean, and you can't view it on his timeline.

06:56:17.740 You have to click through another link to see what it actually says.

06:56:20.380 President of the United States.

06:56:21.620 Unbelievable.

06:56:22.280 That's how much they don't want you to get any information that counters their narrative.

06:56:25.880 And this goes to my point about the media.

06:56:27.300 It doesn't even change – the voting is mostly over in every place that matters right now.

06:56:32.600 They're not censoring him for the outcome.

06:56:34.760 They're censoring him to show everybody else who thinks like them that they are virtuous, that they are noble, that they're on the side of what's right and what's good and what's holy.

06:56:42.260 I mean, this could be just an absolute bleep show, right?

06:56:45.420 I mean, like that most obvious problem.

06:56:48.080 This is why all votes should be on Election Day except for very rare exceptions.

06:56:53.080 I agree.

06:56:53.700 Because the fact that this is now going to drag out probably for another two days, I would imagine at a minimum for another two days, it means that Trump voters are going to believe that Trump legit won the election and that it was stolen from him if Biden takes it.

06:57:05.760 And Biden voters are going to believe precisely the opposite if Trump takes it.

06:57:08.820 And if it gets appealed to the Supreme Court, we're going to get a bunch of talk about how Amy Coney Barrett and Kavanaugh and Gorsuch all have to recuse themselves because they're Trump appointees.

06:57:16.000 By the way, if you mess all the way through, think about what the president just said, for which Twitter has has penalized him.

06:57:22.800 And then think about what Joe Biden actually just said on the stage during his remarks, where he said, we're going to win Pennsylvania.

06:57:29.900 I mean, he has it on good authority from the attorney general.

06:57:32.620 I mean, he made very declarative statements, but there's no censorship when you're on the left.

06:57:38.940 No, because there's no virtue in showing censorship to the left.

06:57:41.580 Right. Well, absolutely. And Twitter is an absolute Democrat project, a leftist project.

06:57:47.580 I wouldn't even say Democrat. They're a leftist.

06:57:49.440 True leftist. I want to go back to Alicia and get a few more questions from our Daily Wire members.

06:57:53.780 You can become a member by going to Daily Wire, hitting the subscribe button.

06:57:57.240 Promo code election gets you 25 percent off. Alicia. 1.00

06:57:59.760 Yes. The next question is for Michael Knowles.

06:58:02.660 People really want to know. And Ben just said there, you know, is it going to be a couple more days?

06:58:06.440 But Knowles, what do you think is a realistic timeline for when we have an election result?

06:58:09.760 As we know from the war room, we apparently have until December 6th.

06:58:13.660 Is this going to be a post Thanksgiving thing?

06:58:17.260 A little nervous to say it will go on that long.

06:58:21.840 I mean, there have been people who joke that it'll go on until January, February or March.

06:58:25.420 I don't think that's the case. There's just too much pressure on it.

06:58:28.480 So it looks like it's going to come down to Pennsylvania.

06:58:32.000 We already know because the attorney general told us that it's over for Biden several days ago.

06:58:35.620 So that's fine. Actually, that tweet, though, will be grounds for some of the lawsuits that are guaranteed to go on there.

06:58:44.260 You had the Biden campaign, by the way, bragging months ago that they had hired 600 lawyers to battle out and try to win this election in the courts.

06:58:53.520 The Trump campaign lawyered up as well.

06:58:55.920 The best lawyers. You'll never see lawyers like this, folks.

06:58:58.440 So, you know, that will go on for a while.

06:59:01.720 And who knows? I mean, it could work all the way up to the courts.

06:59:04.200 And as Ben said, you'll get arguments about how any judge who ever met a Republican has got to recuse themselves.

06:59:08.900 But I don't think it's going to go on for two months or three months.

06:59:12.100 As we mentioned earlier, Antonin Scalia said what was so humiliating about Bush v. Gore.

06:59:16.840 He had the greatest democracy in the world that couldn't resolve its own election.

06:59:21.680 Here, you know, we're not going to Bush v. Gore times three or times four or times five.

06:59:24.820 It doesn't look that way.

06:59:25.660 So if it does become a matter of Pennsylvania, I suspect that they'll be able to resolve it relatively quickly.

06:59:33.200 But there's a huge world in which we don't know tomorrow and maybe we don't even know Friday.

06:59:37.580 All right, Drew, this question is for you.

06:59:39.380 Is voter turnout so high this election cycle because of mail-in popularity with voters?

06:59:44.020 Or do you think it's the highly charged nature of where the country sits right now politically?

06:59:49.280 B. It's obviously the highly charged nature.

06:59:51.700 Trump is a divisive figure, but he's also a figure that inspires passion.

06:59:57.140 I don't think anybody, I seriously don't think anybody went to the polls because they thought that Joe Biden was their dream guy.

07:00:03.640 I think that people went to the polls to vote against Trump or for Trump.

07:00:07.240 He is a world historical figure now.

07:00:10.180 He is a guy like Napoleon that basically sets the tenor of the time.

07:00:15.080 Whether you think that's a good thing or a bad thing, it doesn't matter.

07:00:17.520 It is an actual fact that this is a guy who has occupied and colonized our imaginations and people went to the polls as a referendum on Donald Trump.

07:00:27.400 And a lot of them went to the polls because Donald Trump is such a powerful figure.

07:00:32.000 And that's what's happened.

07:00:34.260 You know, he is a genuine historical guy at this point.

07:00:38.680 All right.

07:00:40.280 Can we be clear on one thing here?

07:00:41.440 I think it's worth noting, which is that if there were no such thing as early voting, Trump would have won this election.

07:00:46.960 Well, that's always true.

07:00:47.820 Because the surge in the last two weeks of the election, based on the polling data, suggests that Trump really closed the gap in a major way in a lot of these swing states.

07:00:55.220 But so many votes came in early that people had already voted.

07:00:58.360 And so that last debate didn't make all that much difference.

07:00:59.940 I don't understand the logic of early voting.

07:01:01.740 I'm with you on this 100%.

07:01:02.680 100%.

07:01:03.400 I think people should go to the polls on a day to vote and go.

07:01:07.700 There's supposed to be an election date.

07:01:09.020 It is supposed to be inconvenient to vote.

07:01:11.420 It's supposed to not be supremely easy to vote.

07:01:13.380 You're supposed to have to want to exercise that responsibility.

07:01:16.540 If you make it too easy for everyone, then it really becomes a popularity contest.

07:01:20.640 It becomes a faddish, you know, whoever's the most faddish candidate will win. 0.99

07:01:23.940 And why shouldn't you be able to target a date that you're playing toward?

07:01:26.620 Why shouldn't you be able to say, I'm going to...

07:01:28.840 And it is fundamentally wrong to vote before the election is over.

07:01:31.460 It presumes that you know things that you may or may not actually know, which is why one

07:01:36.200 of the most popular search trends after the second debate was, can I change my vote?

07:01:40.160 And think about that.

07:01:41.140 After the second debate, how do I change my vote?

07:01:44.800 There shouldn't have been any votes.

07:01:46.260 Even if you believe that one day, that we should have a voting week or that we should

07:01:49.400 have a voting three days.

07:01:50.860 The debates were weeks ago.

07:01:52.580 And already 40, 50, 60, 70 million votes had been cast.

07:01:56.840 But listen, we have swapped out Daily Wire editor-in-chief, John Bickley, for another

07:02:01.800 tall, handsome dude who's also a PhD, who's also intelligent and also has a deep voice.

07:02:09.020 And that is the young Spencer Clayton.

07:02:10.780 You'll barely notice Bickley was gone.

07:02:12.080 Yeah.

07:02:12.340 But only one of you is a square beard.

07:02:14.460 This is true.

07:02:15.400 This has become my trademark.

07:02:16.780 And in the pandemic season, I just decided to rebel by growing a square beard.

07:02:20.480 I like it.

07:02:20.900 Spencer, you put out a video with the Daily Wire this week about how what's really happening

07:02:25.640 on the left is a revolution.

07:02:27.160 I was sort of inspired at a breakfast that I had with you.

07:02:29.800 You brought up the same point.

07:02:31.280 And I've expounded on it and thought about it in my own way.

07:02:34.220 But I wonder if you could give us just a little bit of that here.

07:02:37.480 What do you mean a revolution?

07:02:39.100 Absolutely.

07:02:39.540 There's two points to make.

07:02:41.120 One is it's not an election about which way we're going to take the country.

07:02:45.300 It's an election about whether the country is good or evil.

07:02:47.800 And that's, you know, this is this is the meaning of the phrase systemic racism.

07:02:52.260 It's it's the fundamental just definition.

07:02:54.040 No matter how much you protest that you're a moderate, that Joe Biden is the one who's

07:02:58.260 going to stop all the riots.

07:02:59.140 If what you're telling people is that fundamentally in its systems, in its structure, your country

07:03:03.880 is racist, which is an evil thing to be.

07:03:06.780 People are going to start rioting and tearing statues down.

07:03:09.180 There's just there's no logical conclusion other than that.

07:03:12.020 So when you say, as Joe Biden has said, that there is systemic racism, that you have

07:03:15.900 a plan to root it out, it doesn't matter how you present yourself.

07:03:18.800 It doesn't matter what else you say to the contrary or whether you just pretend you're

07:03:21.620 trying to reform things.

07:03:23.320 You're actually staging and abetting a revolution.

07:03:26.480 So that's the first thing.

07:03:27.460 Second thing is that it's not a popular revolution, right?

07:03:30.620 It's not a popular uprising.

07:03:32.520 It's not oppressed people.

07:03:33.640 It's all the stuff that they claim about, you know, oh, these poor, marginalized, whatever,

07:03:38.220 black latinx, whatever black people that are rising up.

07:03:40.900 This is an elite Ph.D. driven, CEO funded, right?

07:03:45.500 Jack Dorsey's funneling tens of millions of dollars into people like Ibram XCandy, university

07:03:50.080 professors that are overthrowing our republic in the name of their own corrupt oligarchy.

07:03:56.100 And that's what they are doing.

07:03:57.800 And the whole idea that this is this kind of uprising from from the ground up is a classic

07:04:02.880 Marxist technique.

07:04:03.900 It's this you take all this popular unrest, which exists because you generated it by locking

07:04:07.900 people inside their homes for however many months and making sure they had to wear masks

07:04:11.160 and conceal their identities, dehumanize one another and drilling into their heads over

07:04:15.420 and over and over again that your countrymen are racist, your countrymen hate you for whatever

07:04:18.680 reason that we invent today. 0.62

07:04:20.260 And then you just tell them and now you have to riot.

07:04:22.500 Now you have to take to the streets.

07:04:23.860 That's Marxism.

07:04:25.020 It's just it's amazing how they use that playbook.

07:04:27.820 So so the term racism now is just a synonym for evil, right?

07:04:31.920 So it's not enough to just to not be evil.

07:04:34.040 You have to be actively good or anti-racist and this idea that when when blacks or Hispanics 0.59

07:04:40.100 don't vote the way that they're supposed to, that they're exhibiting a false consciousness. 0.91

07:04:45.020 This Marxist.

07:04:45.840 Oh, my gosh.

07:04:46.520 Today, Nicole Hannah-Jones, one of the foremost ringleaders of this entire thing, right?

07:04:50.300 The architect of the New York Times 1619 project tweeted the day after this election

07:04:55.460 is over.

07:04:56.020 I can you cannot make this up the day after this election is over.

07:04:58.540 However, I'm going to write a little article about how the term Latino is made up because

07:05:03.380 it lumps white Cubans in with oh, my gosh, those white Cubans, right? 0.99

07:05:08.160 It lumps them in with all the actual brown and black, the real true black. 1.00

07:05:11.580 It's like, you know, after this election, traitors will be stripped of their preferred

07:05:14.580 status.

07:05:16.020 And there will be racial purity. 0.82

07:05:18.220 Exactly.

07:05:18.720 And there what we will.

07:05:19.500 Yeah.

07:05:19.660 Well, you know, and it's like you couldn't ask them to state it more outright.

07:05:23.720 Right.

07:05:23.920 We refuse to believe that we just imagine that they're trying to kind of, you know, oh, you

07:05:27.380 know, I can see some good points to you.

07:05:29.120 You know, you may be.

07:05:29.760 No, no, no.

07:05:30.220 They're trying to destroy us.

07:05:31.140 They want to stay.

07:05:31.760 Yeah.

07:05:32.520 Bright spot in California. 1.00

07:05:33.560 Just as an election update, it looks like California is set to vote down that idiotic 1.00

07:05:36.520 ballot initiative, getting rid of the getting rid of the anti-racial preferences. 1.00

07:05:40.560 Thank goodness.

07:05:41.000 Good.

07:05:41.320 It looks it looks like Republican that the California public will vote that down.

07:05:45.120 It also looks like the proposition that was set to get rid of Uber and Lyft in the

07:05:48.700 state was even too much for California voters.

07:05:50.520 So it looks like they're going to Uber went all in.

07:05:52.580 You couldn't get a car in the last three months without being told how to vote on.

07:05:56.160 I mean, they had to.

07:05:57.240 Right.

07:05:57.380 Otherwise, they literally would not exist.

07:05:58.860 Yeah.

07:05:59.020 That's right.

07:05:59.340 Would just not be here anymore.

07:06:01.140 It shows you what would happen if you were to take all of the apparatus that they've been

07:06:04.440 using to remind us to vote, vote, vote.

07:06:06.080 Right.

07:06:06.200 Which is all vote for Biden.

07:06:07.720 Right.

07:06:07.960 Every time you open Instagram, every time you tweet anything, if you just took that apparatus

07:06:11.660 and directed it toward one Republican policy.

07:06:14.140 So these business people, they get incensed about the fact that they're going to like five

07:06:17.680 to fire all of their people. 0.98

07:06:19.040 And suddenly you can't get an Uber without getting reminded about this.

07:06:21.960 Right.

07:06:22.100 It works.

07:06:22.680 Like, why isn't the right doing this?

07:06:24.320 Right.

07:06:24.540 Why don't we do it more because they control so many of the levers of influence and the 0.90

07:06:27.960 ones, even the ones where we get a foothold, they try to actually strip us up.

07:06:32.000 You know, I want to pick back up on the revolution thing for one minute because there's an aspect

07:06:34.720 of it that I've been hitting on that I think it goes right along with what you're saying,

07:06:38.400 but it's a slightly different color.

07:06:40.560 And that's that historically we voted for policy preferences.

07:06:44.180 I don't like the.

07:06:44.960 And listen, policy preferences can have extraordinary consequences.

07:06:49.140 Abortion is a great example. 1.00

07:06:50.100 I vote Republican because I'm pro-life.

07:06:52.520 I don't want to see abortion, which I believe is the taking of a human life. 0.97

07:06:55.900 That's a very consequential issue.

07:06:57.880 But it is still fundamentally an issue of policy.

07:07:00.460 I want taxes to be lower.

07:07:01.520 I think that's better for the economy.

07:07:02.820 You want taxes to be higher.

07:07:03.920 You think that's better for equity where this is a policy disagreement.

07:07:07.400 This particular election is not about policy.

07:07:10.880 The left isn't running on a policy platform.

07:07:13.080 They're running on the idea of changing the structure of the government itself.

07:07:17.760 They're essentially saying the Electoral College, fundamentally unfair.

07:07:22.800 We're going to do away with it.

07:07:24.400 They're saying the Supreme Court, as currently constituted, fundamentally unfair.

07:07:31.060 We're going to change it.

07:07:32.140 They're saying some of this isn't constitutional changes.

07:07:34.380 It's changes to the norms like the filibuster.

07:07:36.480 The filibuster, which protects minority rights, has gotten in our way.

07:07:39.860 We're going to get rid of it.

07:07:40.780 Once we've gotten rid of it, the 50-state structure that's held for the last half century or more in this country

07:07:46.860 doesn't favor us in terms of senatorial representation or votes for the presidency.

07:07:52.760 So we're going to alter it by simple majority and add states.

07:07:56.440 They're saying that the First Amendment should be mitigated.

07:07:59.060 The Second Amendment should be mitigated.

07:08:00.660 Due process should be mitigated.

07:08:01.940 They're saying that equal justice is, as Eric Weinstein said when he was here, somehow a sign of white supremacy.

07:08:07.340 The 14th Amendment is a sign of white supremacy. 0.76

07:08:12.020 What they're saying is they want to have an election that's post-policy, where if we vote for them,

07:08:18.960 policy will actually never be on the docket again because you won't be allowed to talk.

07:08:22.840 You won't be allowed to defend yourself.

07:08:24.200 You won't have any protection from capricious overreach by the government.

07:08:27.460 You won't have any representation, meaningful representation in the Senate.

07:08:32.060 And the Supreme Court will exist to validate anything that they try to cram down your throats. 0.93

07:08:36.680 In that world, it's foolish to talk about abortion. 0.97

07:08:40.240 It's foolish to talk about taxation. 0.99

07:08:41.960 It's foolish to talk about any of our Green New Deal, even as sweeping as that is, becomes foolish 0.92

07:08:46.780 because all policy disagreement goes out the door when you reframe a country.

07:08:53.120 As we said earlier, as you said, they're trying to reframe America. 0.79

07:08:56.860 That is a revolutionary concept.

07:08:59.820 Yeah, we're voting on the context within which we're going to have these conversations.

07:09:04.560 We're not voting on one side of the conversation over another.

07:09:07.400 Do you guys remember when those football kids, those high school football players got suspended

07:09:12.580 for flying the Blue Lives Matter flag?

07:09:16.480 And what the superintendent said, I think it was the superintendent, it was whoever suspended them,

07:09:20.220 said, you know, we didn't want them to be making a political statement, right?

07:09:24.460 So what counts as political, right?

07:09:27.460 When we say the word political, what we typically mean is, I mean, what we should mean is the

07:09:31.520 structure of our lives together.

07:09:32.660 But what we typically mean is the things that we're fighting over right now and the things

07:09:36.040 that are outside of the Overton window.

07:09:38.420 That's the stuff that you can say and be considered apolitical.

07:09:41.100 So you can post a black square on Instagram. 0.68

07:09:43.580 You have to.

07:09:44.000 You have to.

07:09:44.680 It's compulsory.

07:09:45.720 And the reason it's compulsory is because it's not political.

07:09:48.300 It's the background of the regime.

07:09:49.740 And that's what they want.

07:09:50.520 They want their their way of life to be the background of what it sort of it sort of has

07:09:56.060 to be that way.

07:09:56.700 They have to be so right that we're evil and can't speak because their policies don't work.

07:10:02.200 I mean, this is an important point.

07:10:04.500 When you look at San Francisco, one of the most beautiful cities I lived there many thousands

07:10:08.780 of years ago, it was one of the most beautiful cities in the country.

07:10:11.860 It is now a cesspit.

07:10:13.800 And yet and yet, if you say, hey, something's wrong here, there's something evil about you.

07:10:18.840 And it has to be that way because otherwise you are just faced with the policies and the

07:10:23.460 results.

07:10:23.840 You know, this is a conversation we've had for a long time, which is I think we often

07:10:27.400 get the conversations over free speech or censorship or political correctness.

07:10:31.280 We get it wrong because we're just fighting narrowly over the banned tweet or the word you're

07:10:36.380 not allowed to say when really what the battle is about is the way in which we view the world,

07:10:42.480 the kind of background of the world.

07:10:44.700 There are always these norms.

07:10:46.220 There are always these standards.

07:10:47.260 And what the left has done is overturned all of the old standards and replace them with

07:10:51.160 the new ones such that if what is the meaning of the black square, the meaning of the black

07:10:54.840 square is this country is horrifically racist. 0.99

07:10:57.760 There is an epidemic of racist cops slaughtering innocent black men. 0.99

07:11:01.660 As LeBron James says, black men can't walk out their doors without being hunted down. 0.99

07:11:05.200 That is the explicit meaning of that black square. 0.97

07:11:08.100 And if you don't believe that you will be ostracized.

07:11:11.800 Yeah.

07:11:12.120 Do you guys did you guys have any of these conversations that I have had in the last couple

07:11:15.420 weeks leading up to the election where you said, you know, I think these polls are catastrophically

07:11:19.960 off.

07:11:20.420 I think they're profoundly off.

07:11:22.200 And because they're off because they're their first level premises.

07:11:25.360 And not only do people say, well, I think you're wrong, but they reacted with indignation,

07:11:29.880 with deep appalled, this sort of sense of offense, because you've threatened not just their

07:11:36.440 idea about what's going to happen, but their entire ethos of how political life is done.

07:11:42.480 And if if you believe, as they do, the people that I'm having these conversations with believe

07:11:47.740 that democracy is effectively obsolete because the like mechanism, the algebraic mechanism of

07:11:54.460 the input that you're going to feed in and the output you're going to get has been 100 percent

07:11:58.260 calculated like atoms bouncing off of one another the same way they believe that the whole world

07:12:01.660 is just matter bouncing off of each other.

07:12:03.540 They also believe that that's what democracy is and how it can be best optimized.

07:12:08.240 And when you tell them that you think that they've just, you know, seen the world wrong,

07:12:12.400 they respond with the kind of moral just shock that you that they would also respond with

07:12:17.040 if you said, I think systemic racism is a lie.

07:12:18.860 It's all part of one attitude is the attitude that you're outside.

07:12:21.980 Although I will say that I think that there is a bit of a difference between the two attitudes.

07:12:25.880 So the attitude about polling, I think, comes from it just goes to show that logic

07:12:29.820 is not consistent among Democrats.

07:12:32.320 On the one hand, if you say, show me the evidence of systemic racism, because that's a very

07:12:35.900 miasmatic and unclear argument.

07:12:37.400 So you need to actually show me the evidence.

07:12:38.780 Then they get very offended that you're asking to see evidence.

07:12:41.040 If you say, I think the polls are wrong, then they will say, well, evidence matters.

07:12:44.440 I mean, haven't you seen the data in the polls?

07:12:46.240 Yeah.

07:12:46.480 And so it's almost whatever is useful, whatever brick is at hand is what they are used to using.

07:12:52.180 Listen, I get the discomfort.

07:12:53.460 I do.

07:12:54.000 I've experienced it myself.

07:12:54.940 I get the discomfort with people saying, I don't believe the polls because like, OK, well,

07:12:59.260 what is there to believe or not believe?

07:13:00.820 They're right or they're wrong.

07:13:01.760 It's not a matter of belief.

07:13:02.680 It's either they're correctly modeled or they're not correctly modeled.

07:13:05.200 They'll be what they are.

07:13:06.680 But the I get that level of discomfort.

07:13:09.120 What I don't get is the wild ire at anybody who says that we should take the polls with a

07:13:15.260 grain of salt, right?

07:13:16.400 Because the polls themselves are supposed to be taken with a grain of salt.

07:13:18.840 There is a thing called margin of error in the poll.

07:13:20.880 They're predicting the future, which we actually don't have the science to do.

07:13:25.440 There is no science to predict irregular events in the future.

07:13:28.480 And so it's the same thing with climate change.

07:13:32.060 You know, climate change is a guess.

07:13:33.860 It's a reasonable guess, you know, but it may be wrong.

07:13:36.720 And every time the whole thing about science is you compare your guesses to reality.

07:13:41.960 And when reality contradicts them, you change your guess.

07:13:44.900 And the fact that you could actually object to their guesses tells you that the guess is

07:13:51.760 motivated by ideology.

07:13:53.900 So I'll tell you what it's like in the evangelical world every six years, eight years.

07:14:01.800 There probably is an actual number.

07:14:02.920 I don't know it.

07:14:04.200 Someone comes along and says that the end of days is going to happen.

07:14:08.760 And they and they name a date. 0.89

07:14:10.240 And they do this because the Bible explicitly says no one knows the date except this one chump 1.00

07:14:18.040 who's going to show up in 2020 and build you for 10 million.

07:14:22.600 So the Christians fall for this time and time and time again. 0.95

07:14:27.680 And I remember being at the South Plains Fair in Lubbock, Texas, when I was 10, 8, 9, 10

07:14:32.820 years old.

07:14:33.460 And I saw this painting of the tribulation, you know, and it was supposed to happen that

07:14:37.920 year, which is like 1988 or something.

07:14:40.620 You know, they they had all the signs and wonders.

07:14:42.840 And, you know, if you read the Bible backwards in Latin and convert it into digits and put it

07:14:47.980 on a metric clock and they they really pin it down.

07:14:51.140 And people get swept up in it, people I know, people I love, people who are intelligent,

07:14:56.560 successful in business, people with good families get swept up in it.

07:15:01.340 Some people I know have been swept up in not every one of them, but multiple of them across

07:15:05.600 the course of the 41 years that I've been on the planet.

07:15:08.520 And when you try to talk to them about it, even just to say, like, well, what makes this

07:15:13.760 one different than the one in 1988 that I remember you were also, you know, committed

07:15:18.940 to, they show that same level of indignation and it's a religious indignation, which is

07:15:24.380 why I bring it up.

07:15:25.300 You are you are now challenging their religious belief about what is going to happen.

07:15:31.740 And the reason that I've always said, you know, I have this little home church and I've

07:15:35.580 been doing it for, I don't know, 18 years or some some version like that.

07:15:39.040 And no one comes to it.

07:15:41.480 Right.

07:15:41.880 It's a small sort of decidedly small group.

07:15:45.060 I always say, if I ever wanted to explode the numbers, I would teach about revelation

07:15:49.560 and the end of days, because everyone wants to know what's going to happen.

07:15:55.260 Everyone wants not only the security of knowing, but they want the special knowledge.

07:15:59.060 They want to be the ones that God chose to reveal special knowledge to.

07:16:02.080 They want to know what you don't know.

07:16:03.880 And they if they like you, they want to tell you.

07:16:06.420 And if they really hate you, they might also want to tell you.

07:16:09.240 But if they're indifferent to you, maybe they don't want you to know because then they

07:16:12.700 wouldn't be right.

07:16:13.320 They want that special secret blessing of knowing the future.

07:16:16.700 And I'm always reminded that all of the people who in the Bible claim to know the future are

07:16:23.800 wrong.

07:16:24.260 And it's not that they don't know the prophecy.

07:16:26.400 It's that they don't know the purpose of prophecy, that biblical prophecy isn't so that

07:16:30.800 it's not God telling you the future so that you will know what's going to happen.

07:16:35.540 It's God telling you the future so that when the future arrives, you will know that he was

07:16:40.000 God, you can tell the truth so that you can tell the truth.

07:16:43.260 God isn't God doesn't give us the future because if you had the future, there'd be no need for

07:16:47.760 faith.

07:16:48.320 Now, that's a sort of religious way of thinking about it. 0.86

07:16:50.460 But in much more practical terms, maybe for our purposes, you're not smart enough to know

07:16:55.100 the future.

07:16:56.120 Nothing that you're ever going to learn is going to tell you the future, because if you knew

07:17:00.060 the future, you would be more than human and you are not more than human.

07:17:03.740 You're just another.

07:17:04.720 When you object to it, you're actually they feel that you're objecting to the underlying belief.

07:17:09.520 And that's the thing you see when you say, yeah, polls.

07:17:12.160 I'm not sure about these polls.

07:17:13.200 What you're really saying to them is you don't have any special virtue.

07:17:16.260 You don't have special powers.

07:17:17.300 You're not special.

07:17:17.820 And their whole claim to authority is based on those special powers is based on.

07:17:22.300 And these the people who have claimed to those special powers in my entire lifetime have thoroughly

07:17:28.480 beclowned themselves.

07:17:29.660 All the predictive powers, all their special insight, all their fancy credentials all turned out

07:17:34.680 to be false and wrong.

07:17:36.180 And the whole all their all their five year plans, all their end of histories, all of

07:17:40.700 their.

07:17:41.180 Right.

07:17:41.580 Right.

07:17:41.800 And this is I mean, so there is something I will concede, right, agonizing about not

07:17:47.740 knowing what's going to happen five minutes from now, except that it's the entire human

07:17:51.340 experience.

07:17:51.740 I was sitting backstage with you guys had Dave Rubin on sitting backstage with him.

07:17:55.860 We were watching this, this whole thing unfold.

07:17:59.200 We're both sort of thinking, like, this is the funnest country in the world.

07:18:02.800 Like, I can't believe Biden was up like 15 points.

07:18:05.720 And now every every state is like this toss up.

07:18:08.220 And there is I mean, it's it's it's nail biting.

07:18:10.600 But it's super fun if you believe that God is in charge.

07:18:14.680 Right.

07:18:14.900 So the thing that makes it fun is if you actually have some, you know, overarching faith that

07:18:22.520 it's a story with a narrator.

07:18:24.160 If you don't, if you just think it's Adam's bouncing off of one another, of course, all

07:18:27.280 you're doing is just trying to get control.

07:18:28.720 This is you said something very intelligent the other day, which shocked me.

07:18:31.940 And I had to do a double day.

07:18:33.920 I obviously know I you said something very intelligent on this point of of basically breaking out

07:18:40.920 of the system that that does not have this predictive power and that is totally corrupted.

07:18:44.960 And it's but it's we hear it with the woke, but it's happening a little bit on the right

07:18:49.140 to even in the language that we use to describe this.

07:18:51.840 That's right.

07:18:52.320 Yeah.

07:18:52.520 I think that when people you notice on the left and the right, this language of getting woke

07:18:57.440 or getting red pilled, right, getting red pilled is waking up out of the matrix.

07:19:01.060 That's the same.

07:19:01.840 It's the same thing as getting woke.

07:19:03.220 And both of them just mean I was living in a simulation.

07:19:06.260 We talk also about the simulation and the simulation is there are these two flavors of

07:19:10.740 thing on the table in front of me.

07:19:12.680 One flavor is called Republican and one flavor is called Democrat.

07:19:15.640 And I basically feel like both of them have been offering me the same thing.

07:19:19.440 Conservatives feel like both of them have been offering me this this kind of, you know,

07:19:23.000 limp wristed libertarianism, basically. 0.55

07:19:26.500 That was homophobic, by the way.

07:19:27.600 You're not.

07:19:28.440 I'm not.

07:19:29.020 But I'm already an ex-gay, apparently. 0.51

07:19:33.100 Or an un-gay, I think, is how it works. 0.96

07:19:35.260 Yeah. 0.88

07:19:35.660 Double plus.

07:19:36.620 I'm not a Latino anymore.

07:19:38.020 Yeah.

07:19:41.080 But so that's the thing that the basically, I think, a lot of the really hardcore right

07:19:46.680 wingers think that both Republicans and Democrats were offering that.

07:19:49.600 And a lot of the Bernie bros feel like both Republicans and Democrats were offering this

07:19:53.840 kind of neoliberalism that just benefits the upper class, ultimately.

07:19:57.660 And, you know, a lot of it has to do with immigration, but it has to do with, you know,

07:20:00.240 the middle class and so forth.

07:20:01.420 And so this whole idea that you're, you know, you're trying basically to get something that

07:20:05.640 transcends that system.

07:20:07.140 My shtick now is, like, the only actual thing that does that, because all the other stuff

07:20:11.320 that people are offering is basically just atavism.

07:20:13.300 It's just tribalism.

07:20:14.240 Like, let's divide everybody by race.

07:20:16.000 Let's, like, lift weights a bunch and be super buff or whatever.

07:20:18.540 Like, the only thing that actually does this is to genuinely do and say what the American

07:20:23.180 Constitution does and say.

07:20:24.700 Yeah.

07:20:24.780 So, like, for example, freedom of association, a radical thing.

07:20:28.400 Like, if my employer could actually fire me for being gay, like the Constitution says he

07:20:32.220 should be able to do.

07:20:33.760 Not that I think he would ever do it.

07:20:35.060 Not that I think really anybody would do it at this point.

07:20:37.920 But, like, that is the most insane, red-pilled, woke thing of anything.

07:20:43.600 But we're all looking for that, right?

07:20:44.820 We're all searching for something that breaks out of that scripted system.

07:20:48.720 I think an important piece of this, and we talk about it sometimes on our backstage show,

07:20:52.540 and it's probably worth saying here now as this night begins to wane and as it becomes

07:20:57.780 more and more clear that we're almost certainly not going to know tonight who is the president.

07:21:03.400 Millions of Americans are going to go to bed tonight in a kind of distress because, obviously,

07:21:09.260 the stakes truly are quite high in this election.

07:21:12.680 They're always high.

07:21:13.680 They're probably uniquely high in this particular election because we've been worked into a frenzy

07:21:19.460 by the media over the last four years.

07:21:22.540 And really, I would say over the last 12 years, because the Obama years were so inciting

07:21:29.300 to Republicans because we were being told you have no future.

07:21:33.280 It is not your country. 0.65

07:21:34.760 Your day is over.

07:21:35.740 This is the end of history, as they always believe that it's the end of history when they win.

07:21:39.440 Even on the right, we're saying if Joe Biden wins, it's the end of America as we know it.

07:21:43.620 If the left ascends, it's the end of America as we know it.

07:21:46.040 I think it's worth probably mentioning.

07:21:48.980 I mean, and we don't know when will we know you could go to bed tonight and miss it and

07:21:51.920 wake up in the morning and somebody is the president.

07:21:53.380 You didn't even see it happen.

07:21:54.420 Or you could wake up tomorrow and we're still a week away from now.

07:21:56.720 I mean, it's a very distressing time.

07:21:58.140 But I think it's worth observing.

07:22:01.080 That while the stakes are high, the stakes are not ultimate.

07:22:05.980 That who you are, ultimately, your ultimate future is not held by the government.

07:22:11.220 It's held by God.

07:22:11.980 God unfolds history.

07:22:13.420 Whoever wins the presidency, God did that.

07:22:17.500 And God's ways are not our ways.

07:22:19.760 You know, that's one of the first you haven't even scratched the surface of wisdom until

07:22:24.260 you know that God's ways aren't our ways.

07:22:26.800 Even when we say things like America will be over if Joe Biden is president, we're assuming

07:22:30.880 that we know a bunch of things that we don't know.

07:22:32.380 Joe Biden could be like in California.

07:22:35.140 We had a governor named Jerry Brown, and he was a radical leftist governor.

07:22:40.180 And then he goes away for a generation, and he comes back 180 years later, and he's our

07:22:46.320 governor again.

07:22:48.220 Only the second time that he's governor, the Democrats in this state have become so radical

07:22:52.660 that they left his radicalism behind.

07:22:55.300 And while he still does many things that I dislike, there are real consequences of his

07:22:59.080 governorship.

07:23:00.020 He actually serves as a kind of bulwark against the radical left because he simply won't sign

07:23:04.100 it.

07:23:04.200 It's possible that Joe Biden will actually be will actually prevent the radical left from

07:23:10.760 being able to get the kinds of victories that they might otherwise get.

07:23:13.400 It's possible that Joe Biden wins the presidency and because of his age and health, never even

07:23:17.180 serves one day as president or he serves a year or two years or three years and isn't able

07:23:23.820 to conclude his term.

07:23:25.520 And Kamala Harris becomes president.

07:23:26.740 Not only would we get the just unbelievable joy of knowing that the first woman president

07:23:33.880 wasn't elected, which would just be like the funniest thing that's ever happened, but as

07:23:39.160 our friend Jonathan Hay has observed, we would be ascending someone so unpopular, even among

07:23:44.860 Democrats, that she could not win a single vote in the primaries and had to drop out, not

07:23:50.340 even able to carry her own state.

07:23:51.300 And then a Republican could attend to get him in for you.

07:23:54.120 The thing that occurred to me this morning is every time somebody says this is the most

07:23:58.220 important election of our lifetime, he's actually making a prediction.

07:24:01.820 He's actually talking about something he doesn't know because it may be a completely irrelevant

07:24:05.460 election because we don't know what's going to actually happen.

07:24:08.940 So again, that comes down to the arrogance of control, the feeling like, yes, OK, this election

07:24:13.100 matters so much because I'm involved with it right now.

07:24:15.540 And it's also such a meaningless statement because elections that happened in the past are by

07:24:18.860 nature in the past.

07:24:19.500 And the ones that have yet to come are by nature not happening right now.

07:24:22.500 It's like saying the most important moment of your life is this one and this one and this

07:24:26.280 one.

07:24:26.400 There will read that.

07:24:27.520 Because it's literally the moment that you are in, right?

07:24:29.460 I mean, there happens to be a currency bias.

07:24:31.660 But I tweeted earlier today, you should vote and then you should go spend some much more

07:24:35.280 important and spend time with your kids.

07:24:36.480 Yeah.

07:24:36.640 And the truth is that the future of the country is going to matter a lot.

07:24:39.620 It's going to depend a lot less on how people voted tonight and how much time we spend

07:24:44.960 on our kids is going to matter a whole hell of a lot more.

07:24:47.740 And the kind of institutional changes that we push for, which we've been talking about

07:24:50.940 all night and pitching all night, that's going to make a lot more difference.

07:24:53.780 People have a habit in the United States of thinking that they get to sound off once every

07:24:56.880 four years and then just abdicate the rest of the time.

07:25:00.100 The left never sleeps, which is one of the reasons they've taken over so many institutions

07:25:03.520 in American life.

07:25:05.780 You know, you voting is not the end of your civic responsibility.

07:25:07.920 It's the beginning of your civic responsibility.

07:25:10.000 And maybe not even that.

07:25:11.160 It's just kind of a moment.

07:25:12.080 The actual truth is your civic responsibility fundamentally is to think less about politics.

07:25:18.560 Yep.

07:25:19.080 Think more about your family.

07:25:20.300 If you're not married, get married.

07:25:22.000 If you don't have kids, get kids.

07:25:23.680 If you don't have a job, get a job.

07:25:25.860 And actually be a product.

07:25:27.380 If you are on social media too much, turn it off.

07:25:30.180 Go meet your neighbor.

07:25:31.160 If your neighbor has a need, help them meet it.

07:25:33.220 If they aren't worthy, help them all the more.

07:25:35.600 If you loan somebody money, don't expect them to repay you.

07:25:38.380 If they waste it and five years later they need more help and you can do it in good faith

07:25:42.460 without contributing to their problem, help them because they're real humans.

07:25:46.020 They have warts and flaws just like you.

07:25:48.380 That's where a citizen engaged.

07:25:50.100 A citizen, his fundamental responsibility is to engage with his community and to be a good citizen.

07:25:55.580 I always ask leftists when they're telling me, oh, Donald Trump is the worst thing that ever.

07:25:59.380 I always say, how has he affected you?

07:26:01.600 How, you know, what right have you lost?

07:26:03.580 How is your life constricted?

07:26:05.820 What has gone on?

07:26:06.460 And they always have this idea.

07:26:07.980 Well, we go back to what we were talking about with Dennis about humanity.

07:26:11.320 Well, humanity is suffering.

07:26:13.060 And I think, like, are you suffering?

07:26:14.620 Because if you're not suffering, then live your life and vote for your best life.

07:26:18.920 Because if everybody votes for his best life, we'll be fine.

07:26:21.580 You know, somehow we'll be fine.

07:26:22.980 It's so important that this includes if Donald Trump wins.

07:26:25.960 Yeah.

07:26:26.400 Because, like, in 2016, we voted Donald Trump in and we were like, oh, yes, now we have delivered this stinging rebuke to the sort of deep state and the woke system and all these things.

07:26:37.060 And all we have to do is just have Donald Trump be president.

07:26:40.600 Right.

07:26:40.740 And all the stuff that we said about put not your faith in princes leading up to the election, we just completely forgot.

07:26:45.700 You know, and in fact, all that happened is that, like, you know, the stony sleep was vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle.

07:26:51.080 Like, there was a beast, like, that rose up in the last six months, basically, that just reasserted itself.

07:26:56.340 We had no idea.

07:26:57.440 We had no idea that we hadn't even begun to do the work.

07:26:59.880 If Trump wins, we've got to start doing the work.

07:27:01.240 So the work doesn't end.

07:27:03.380 Right.

07:27:03.720 And sometimes I see people who are in their 80s.

07:27:06.000 My grandfather, whom I love dearly, a true patriarch of my family, a real inspiration.

07:27:12.100 He eighth grade education starts a business in his 40s after making a very low workman's wage and raising seven kids.

07:27:19.560 He starts a business and builds it into a success very late in life.

07:27:22.600 He gets this this amazing act.

07:27:25.240 And over the last few weeks, he's he's suffered some real health crises.

07:27:28.600 Crises, he's been hospitalized several twice.

07:27:31.900 He battled Parkinson's and diabetes and covid-19 over the last few weeks.

07:27:36.700 It was very touch and go.

07:27:38.160 We weren't sure he had a future.

07:27:39.780 Now, thank God he's home and seems to be well recovered from his his bout of covid.

07:27:45.420 I say all of this to say, as I watched him suffer over the last few weeks, it's been painful because I love him.

07:27:50.660 There's also been a bit of inspiration in it.

07:27:53.760 And I don't mean inspiration like because of how he's faced it.

07:27:56.200 No, he's he's very old and you don't actually face things heroically.

07:28:01.860 Death, old age, their humiliations by design, their humiliations.

07:28:05.640 The last thing that you will do as you leave this mortal coil is soil yourself in the moment that your spirit leaves your body.

07:28:12.800 You will defecate as just God's way of saying, yes, death is the ultimate humiliation.

07:28:20.940 All of your dignity is robbed from you.

07:28:22.400 So it's not that my grandfather's been this inspiration going through this.

07:28:25.600 It's it's that you get to watch and see, oh, God's not finished with you.

07:28:30.040 Even now, there are things you must suffer, suffer.

07:28:32.760 Even now, there are things you must learn.

07:28:34.600 Even now, there are things you must endure.

07:28:36.020 And even now, there are things that you can teach the rest of us, not not by your wisdom, but by your experience, by watching your experience.

07:28:42.340 Great, great. And that that is how we should approach every day as Americans is saying, yeah, the battle is never over because God's not going to give us a victory.

07:28:51.980 What he gives us is opportunity, opportunity again and again and again to be to learn, to grow, to try to fail, to get back up and try.

07:29:00.020 It's such a great point. I have seen several people die.

07:29:02.600 I've been with people in the moments of their death, in the moments before their death.

07:29:06.380 And the thing that always amazes me is that they're still them and that what they have to say by being them continues to be said.

07:29:13.680 And death means nothing. I mean, you know, when they say death, where's thy victory?

07:29:18.240 That's it. That you remain who you are.

07:29:20.540 And I believe you remain who you are even after death.

07:29:23.180 But the fact that you are facing these things as yourself is everything you have to teach.

07:29:28.360 We are all you know, the left always says, well, you're performing masculinity.

07:29:31.500 And I think you bet I am. I want you to see what masculinity is doing it.

07:29:35.860 Yeah, I want you to see this flesh, this body, this failure, this miserable sinner.

07:29:41.320 I want you to see masculinity in me. 0.74

07:29:43.560 I want you to see all the good things in me, in this lousy, broken person.

07:29:46.920 And that happens right up until the minute they cart you off.

07:29:49.340 And I think that Joe Biden has called a lid for tonight or for tomorrow.

07:29:57.200 He's called a lid for the evening.

07:29:59.500 That's terrific. So there is that.

07:30:01.500 Spencer, I want to say thank you to you for joining us.

07:30:03.980 If you're not listening to the young heretics, you're missing out and you don't know nothing. 0.99

07:30:07.600 I know, because every time I listen, I realize that I don't know.

07:30:11.160 We can fix that.

07:30:12.860 A truly fabulous podcast. Great insight. Thanks for joining us tonight.

07:30:15.920 We're now going to go to the Daily Wire War Room, where Alicia has updates for us.

07:30:23.920 Hey, everyone. And I do have to say real quick, if President Trump, like he tweeted,

07:30:28.240 comes on and starts to talk to the American people,

07:30:30.760 we will totally cut away from our War Room coverage right now to carry that for you live.

07:30:35.840 So stay tuned. You won't miss the president.

07:30:38.420 Everybody wants to hear what he's going to say.

07:30:40.440 It's a very interesting night.

07:30:41.920 Another interesting tidbit, as our very own Ian Howarth talked about earlier,

07:30:46.300 there had been this this report that maybe Fox News had decided to retract that Arizona had gone to Biden.

07:30:53.220 Fox News never retracted that.

07:30:55.020 But they are the only network out there in the mainstream media network out there that called Arizona early.

07:31:01.300 And we're going to talk to Cabot Phillips about what Fox News' own Katie Pavlich is saying about this.

07:31:06.400 Well, we can now report that Kanye West has won Arizona.

07:31:09.920 No, I'm just kidding.

07:31:10.840 That has not happened.

07:31:11.660 Just making sure all of you are still paying attention.

07:31:13.820 No, we actually have a tweet coming out from Katie Pavlich at Fox.

07:31:16.520 I'm just going to read it verbatim.

07:31:18.080 She says, quote,

07:31:18.920 I just spoke to Arizona Governor Doug Ducey's office.

07:31:21.760 There are at least 900,000 votes outstanding that haven't been counted.

07:31:25.360 About half are Maricopa County.

07:31:27.220 With every update, they say it's breaking significantly toward Trump, two to one.

07:31:31.340 Does not mean a Trump win, but that's still a lot of uncounted votes.

07:31:34.320 So we're just putting that out there.

07:31:35.860 That is something that Katie Pavlich from Fox says happened in her conversation with the governor's office.

07:31:40.340 So people upset about it being called early still could go to Biden.

07:31:44.760 But there are still a lot of votes out there from the data we're seeing.

07:31:48.200 And that could be one reason we haven't seen Arizona called by other outlets.

07:31:51.360 All right.

07:31:51.480 So we do have a map update.

07:31:52.720 So we're going to head on over here.

07:31:53.960 And we still have Arizona grayed out, guys, because, of course, as we know, Fox News is the only outlet that has called this.

07:31:59.460 And we just don't want to give it to anybody right now when you have a lot of other networks and a lot of other statisticians out there saying isn't 100 percent, especially because it was a it was a light red in 2016.

07:32:12.000 But President Trump and Mike Pence were able to take Phoenix, which is right in the center of the state, the metropolitan part of the state that tends to skew more to the left.

07:32:22.740 But they want it before.

07:32:23.600 Could they win it again?

07:32:24.320 So we're going to walk to the map here, just go to the bigger states, Georgia here.

07:32:27.860 President Trump jumped out to a big lead.

07:32:29.380 New York Times projections getting up into the mid 80 percent that he would win.

07:32:33.300 There was a huge voter turnout in DeKalb County, Fulton County as well around Atlanta that has gone heavily towards Biden.

07:32:39.320 The projections are now looking much better for Joe Biden in Georgia, North Carolina, much more of a toss up.

07:32:45.100 President Trump again jumped out to an early lead there.

07:32:47.560 Projections were into the 90th percentile from The New York Times that he would win.

07:32:51.700 The vote counts again have started to even out.

07:32:53.700 I think you call it a pretty clear 50 50 toss up in North Carolina.

07:32:57.360 Now, we spoke earlier about how Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania, we might be waiting for a little bit.

07:33:02.240 Their state officials reportedly telling Bloomberg News that, hey, some of our states and Michigan specifically, you might have to wait till Friday.

07:33:08.380 Wow.

07:33:08.780 Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, they're saying give us a few days.

07:33:11.660 And it's not like it's a national election we've been planning for for four years or anything.

07:33:14.440 But I digress.

07:33:15.780 So to give the viewers a feel for where we are, because in the next few days, you're going to be hearing a lot about Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania, a breakdown of where we stand right now.

07:33:25.360 In Wisconsin, President Trump leads 51.3 to 47.3 with 85 percent of the vote reporting.

07:33:32.160 In Michigan, President Trump up 53.8 to Biden's 44.6 with 62 percent of the vote in.

07:33:38.360 And real quick, Wayne County, which is the Detroit Mecca, always goes blue.

07:33:44.480 Has that reported yet?

07:33:45.420 Always goes blue.

07:33:46.300 We're still tracking just how much of the results are coming in.

07:33:48.580 It does look like we're waiting for a pretty healthy amount of votes from Wayne County, as well as a good number of early votes, absentee votes as well.

07:33:57.100 And finally, in Pennsylvania, President Trump is leading 56.6 to 42.2 percent with 64 percent in.

07:34:03.160 These are the big three states.

07:34:04.280 This is what everyone's going to be keeping their eye on right now.

07:34:06.760 President Trump does hold commanding leads on paper.

07:34:09.560 It's just going to come down to what the voter turnout was in some of those more urban areas that many times are late to report.

07:34:15.020 And what happened with those early votes and absentee ballots?

07:34:17.580 And the president, as he tweeted, thinks that he is doing very well and that it's just not getting covered.

07:34:23.100 And he wants all of the votes to be counted.

07:34:25.220 And he said he's going to be speaking to the American people soon.

07:34:27.560 We'll be sure to have that for you.

07:34:28.900 And any other updates, guys?

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07:35:48.660 We're joined tonight now by my very good friend, one of the first people with whom I began to engage politically.

07:35:54.760 And he was with us last year for some of the most hilarious and drunken parts of our election coverage.

07:36:02.400 Bill Whittle, you remember those halcyon days of 2016 when we thought everything was so calm and history was over.

07:36:10.060 And there's all going to be smooth sailing and dandelions from here to the horizon.

07:36:15.720 Well, let me begin by saying hello, Jeremy, and hello, Mike, and hello, Ben, and hello, Clay.

07:36:24.520 Yeah, 2016 felt like a roller coaster.

07:36:28.000 Now it's just nuts.

07:36:29.360 I'll tell you how it feels right now out there, you know.

07:36:32.100 Right now it feels like I am watching my beloved Florida Gators in a national championship game against Florida State.

07:36:38.420 There's four minutes left in the fourth quarter.

07:36:40.880 We're up by a safety, and they have looked like they fumbled the ball, but they've gone to the instant replay,

07:36:47.320 and now the refs are looking in the picture, and, oh, the feed got cut.

07:36:50.680 That's where we are.

07:36:52.020 It's just this state of limbo, and this is the world that they structured.

07:36:56.840 There was – we all knew, everybody knew coming into this that there was no way we're going to know this.

07:37:02.060 There was no way that Americans were going to know a result of the election on election day.

07:37:06.640 That was the design.

07:37:07.960 That's right.

07:37:08.380 And then we lawyer it up.

07:37:09.480 Well, you know, Dick Morris just said – his analysis was Biden has fallen apart,

07:37:14.420 meaning 300,000 votes behind in Michigan, 750,000 behind in Pennsylvania.

07:37:19.320 But Dems and the media allies want to create the impression that there's no winner in this race

07:37:23.220 so they can litigate it, and it looks like they'll just be reaffirming.

07:37:26.580 Right.

07:37:26.760 And that's where we are, right?

07:37:28.340 So Trump is up by this enormous – when I last checked, it was like a 15-point lead in Pennsylvania.

07:37:34.280 In any other election in American history, that would have been called four hours ago.

07:37:38.860 They still haven't called Florida.

07:37:40.100 Four hours ago.

07:37:41.040 There's one guy wandering around Florida.

07:37:42.760 I don't know who I'll vote for.

07:37:43.700 They haven't called it.

07:37:44.300 And speaking of which, by the way, tonight we can definitely say that we watched the destruction

07:37:49.500 of whatever audience Fox News may have had left, you know?

07:37:52.640 I mean, the commentary out there is just nonstop.

07:37:56.460 It's brutal.

07:37:57.220 It's brutal.

07:37:57.800 And they earned every second of it.

07:37:59.120 You know, they earned every second of it.

07:38:00.920 So we haven't actually been watching Fox.

07:38:03.460 What did they do?

07:38:04.940 Well, they waited until the Florida count got to 104% before they called Florida.

07:38:10.380 And they called Arizona instantly for Biden.

07:38:13.500 I have to tell you, I started feeling good about the election by watching Young Turks and watching

07:38:18.240 Scent have that kind of death march look.

07:38:20.980 And by the way, and this is, I think this is really, really important, really important

07:38:25.320 because we're talking about the culture and things changing on a fundamental level.

07:38:28.960 I'm watching the Live Turks feed on the Live Turks channel and 50 to one, the comments are

07:38:33.700 pro-Trump, 50 to one.

07:38:35.300 Wow.

07:38:35.560 It's like, MAGA, MAGA, we're going to win.

07:38:37.680 You know, we'll start crying for us.

07:38:39.000 And we're seeing this everywhere.

07:38:40.840 We're seeing, we're seeing Republicans coming out of this Stockholm syndrome.

07:38:47.340 When you have a Trump rally in Beverly Hills, when you hear a Biden bus is coming to Texas

07:38:52.820 and we're going to meet that, it's like there's this open willingness to fight back.

07:38:56.980 Yeah.

07:38:57.420 For the first time in my memory.

07:38:58.780 That has certainly never existed.

07:39:00.480 That's right.

07:39:00.960 That's right.

07:39:01.680 And that's a Trump benefit.

07:39:03.460 That is a Trump benefit.

07:39:04.180 I will say this, Bill, you know, you talk about Fox News falling apart.

07:39:07.680 Obviously, we haven't been watching and can't speak to it.

07:39:10.180 I think a lot of Americans still have cable so they can have Fox News.

07:39:13.640 The average cable bill in America today is almost $271 a month.

07:39:18.980 You may not know it, but every time you pay that $271 to the cable company, CNN is getting

07:39:25.280 some of your money, even if you don't watch them because of carriage fees.

07:39:28.840 MSNBC is getting some of your money, even if you don't watch them because of carriage

07:39:32.880 fees.

07:39:33.100 You are paying people who want to destroy you so that you can get Fox News who may not

07:39:38.600 want to destroy you, but certainly isn't telling it to you straight.

07:39:41.660 They're certainly not giving you the information that you need.

07:39:44.080 They're certainly not giving you the kind of firepower that you need to be able to stand

07:39:48.140 up against the woke left.

07:39:50.940 Save yourself some money.

07:39:52.080 Go become an all access member at Daily Wire.

07:39:53.840 Give us $20.

07:39:54.700 Go over to The Blaze and get Louder with Crowder and Glenn Beck and Allie Stuckey and Lauren Chen.

07:39:59.580 Give them $10.

07:40:00.700 Go sign up at BillWhittle.com.

07:40:02.260 Give Bill $10.

07:40:03.180 Make a $10 donation over to PragerU.

07:40:05.880 You've spent $50 now.

07:40:08.020 You can put $220 back into your pocket.

07:40:11.360 And don't get me started on what happens if you stop paying for your kids' lousy college

07:40:14.760 education that won't even give them a job but will cost them their soul and cost you your

07:40:19.060 family.

07:40:19.720 That's going to cost you more than a Ferrari, and your kids are going to be paying for

07:40:23.400 it for the rest of their lives.

07:40:25.340 Your family is going to be paying for it for the rest of your life.

07:40:27.700 You have to stop funding the people who want to destroy you.

07:40:32.460 DailyWire.com is the first place to start.

07:40:34.240 BillWhittle.com, a good second place to go.

07:40:36.800 Why do you mention that?

07:40:37.700 Because I put together a kind of a video like, you know, I think it's going to go well, but

07:40:42.880 if it doesn't go well, then what do we do then?

07:40:45.360 And I've been thinking about this a lot.

07:40:47.400 And the analogy I made was to say that if this were election to go against Trump, then

07:40:54.200 the way I think about it is, is I look at the country as like the Saturn V rocket, because

07:40:59.080 I look at everything like it's a Saturn V.

07:41:01.020 But seriously, it's like when that mission lasted 11,000 minutes, of which the first two

07:41:07.440 minutes were the first stage.

07:41:08.820 And once those first two minutes in the first stage is gone, it's nothing but dead weight.

07:41:12.920 It's just dead weight.

07:41:14.020 You cut it loose and it goes crashing back into the ocean.

07:41:17.360 And that's how I feel about the country right now.

07:41:19.420 I feel like I feel like the working half of the country is carrying all of this dead weight. 1.00

07:41:24.420 It's carrying all of these all of these horrible philosophies, all of these horrible schools,

07:41:30.400 all of these horrible universities, all of this corrupt media, all of it.

07:41:33.740 I feel like I feel like it's time just to cut that loose.

07:41:36.680 And if you could, then then what that upper stage would do would be just accelerate like

07:41:41.880 crazy and you just keep going.

07:41:43.040 You know, it's just dead weight.

07:41:44.860 I'm almost at the point where it's like arguing this since we've been doing this.

07:41:49.740 We've been doing this for a while.

07:41:51.000 It's kind of like it's kind of like somebody's got up.

07:41:54.880 Well, it's kind of like grabbing the flag, the pennant at the at the back of the Titanic

07:41:58.860 and trying to hold it, you know, and tread water and stop that ship from going down.

07:42:02.940 And there comes a point when you have to really say to yourself, all right, look, this thing's

07:42:06.860 going to the bottom.

07:42:07.500 Now, the only question is, am I going with it or am I going to let it go and let it go?

07:42:12.620 And so what you said a minute ago about about our own schools and not paying people

07:42:17.840 one hundred thousand dollars a year to teach them how to hate you is is what I mean by letting

07:42:23.280 go.

07:42:23.780 I'm not talking about.

07:42:25.220 You're not talking about letting go of the country.

07:42:26.480 You're not about letting go of the institutions.

07:42:28.500 I'm talking so corrupted.

07:42:30.180 Yes, that's right.

07:42:30.780 Cut it loose.

07:42:31.760 We finally have seen what it is.

07:42:33.920 And and by any reasonable.

07:42:38.160 Election counting, Donald Trump won the election tonight, given the point spread he has in Michigan,

07:42:42.520 Wisconsin, Pennsylvania.

07:42:44.580 But if he's reelected, I would trade the border wall.

07:42:49.140 I would trade new aircraft carriers.

07:42:50.960 I would even trade getting the election system in place if I could get the Department of Justice

07:42:55.780 breaking up big tech, if I could get that one thing from the second term.

07:42:59.100 That's all I want.

07:43:00.040 I'm with you, because we know that the mainstream media is obsolete and dinosaurs.

07:43:05.020 But when but when big tech they're censoring the president right now, the Hunter Biden laptop

07:43:11.080 story is the is the Rubicon.

07:43:12.860 That is the that is the suppression of a news story by big tech.

07:43:18.260 And it may cost us the election if it if it had been covered the way anything else had

07:43:23.220 been covered.

07:43:24.120 This would be a blowout.

07:43:25.780 So I mean, I am not up enough on the breakdown of the mail in ballots and the absentee ballots

07:43:32.280 to to say that Trump's lead right now in these swing states holds up because you have 67 percent

07:43:37.760 of the vote in in Pennsylvania, 63 percent in in Michigan, 78 percent in in Wisconsin.

07:43:42.580 I'm frankly not enough of a precinct level knower of the vote tally to say that Trump's

07:43:47.840 lead would hold up there because early on, you know, there was talk about how Joe Biden

07:43:52.300 was going to walk away with Florida.

07:43:53.660 So it really depends where there was talk about Joe Biden walking away with Texas.

07:43:57.160 Right.

07:43:57.660 Exactly.

07:43:58.100 So I'll you know, I'll wait to see what happens.

07:44:02.300 I'll tell you what does scare me is that Pennsylvania's rules are not clear about what

07:44:06.180 happens when a ballot comes in, not postmarked after the date of the election.

07:44:09.740 Right.

07:44:10.000 That scares the living hell out of me.

07:44:11.460 Yes.

07:44:11.620 And I'll tell you what's truly amazing.

07:44:14.040 Yeah.

07:44:14.380 Not to, you know, brag on on Florida some more now that I live there.

07:44:17.620 But but I will say that Florida's election system is actually excellent. 0.99

07:44:22.180 We knew the result tonight because they know how to count their damned votes. 1.00

07:44:25.840 Right. 1.00

07:44:26.200 Why is it that Florida, which was a laughingstock in 2000, knows how to count their damn votes, 0.98

07:44:29.900 but nobody else knows how that's actually right. 0.97

07:44:31.960 Because they were laughingstock in 2000, they've had to do the work.

07:44:35.000 It's not that hard.

07:44:36.260 Right.

07:44:36.400 I mean, it's obviously doable.

07:44:37.800 They had all the votes counted tonight in a battleground state that was expected to be

07:44:41.340 extremely contentious and they had it all counted and they were done.

07:44:44.460 Right.

07:44:44.600 And we know the result in Florida.

07:44:45.700 So why is it such a grave ask for the American people to say to Pennsylvania or Wisconsin?

07:44:50.180 For the same reason it's been it's for the same reason that YouTube doesn't publish

07:44:55.240 clear terms and policies, the same reason that Facebook changes their rules continually,

07:44:59.960 the same reason that that Twitter won't tell you their process for blacklisting someone

07:45:04.360 or for for suspending someone.

07:45:06.620 And if you get suspended, they won't tell you why you were suspended.

07:45:09.380 If you get demonetized on YouTube, they won't tell you why you were demonetized.

07:45:12.460 It's because the ambiguity allows people to be capricious.

07:45:16.580 These states don't want to have clear rules because they want to be able to make up the

07:45:20.980 rules when they need to step in and change a result.

07:45:24.040 Right.

07:45:24.240 That's the only reason.

07:45:25.100 Here's one good piece of news.

07:45:26.080 So Philip Klein, who's the executive editor over at the Washington Examiner, he just tweeted

07:45:29.300 that Fox says Milwaukee.

07:45:30.860 So they expect to have returns in by 3 a.m., which is the last remaining big batch of Biden

07:45:34.940 votes because that's Dane County, Madison, which is nearly all in.

07:45:37.980 Trump right now has about 107,000 vote lead.

07:45:40.660 If that holds after the Milwaukee dump, then he takes Wisconsin. 0.81

07:45:43.600 So it is possible that we know by tomorrow.

07:45:45.460 And if Trump takes Wisconsin, the chances are that he wins the election because I'm taking

07:45:49.500 Wisconsin, but not taking Pennsylvania would be a little bit difficult.

07:45:52.200 We could truly wake up with an answer to our question.

07:45:54.040 Right.

07:45:54.240 It is possible that we wake up in the morning and we have a much clearer answer as to where

07:45:58.260 things stand.

07:45:59.120 A much different ending to the night than what we experienced when we were all together

07:46:02.360 four years ago.

07:46:02.980 We have a clip of what happened when Bill Whittle was on the show four years ago.

07:46:07.940 This is so much whiskey in.

07:46:10.340 I was slumped over in my chair.

07:46:11.700 And this is what happened.

07:46:15.320 He's the president.

07:46:16.500 He doesn't.

07:46:16.980 He's not.

07:46:17.380 He's not trying to get it anymore.

07:46:18.440 Sorry.

07:46:18.900 He's just like.

07:46:28.920 Oh, my God.

07:46:29.900 This country.

07:46:30.620 Oh, man.

07:46:32.480 You know, all this time I was afraid I was going to go over to Ben's point of view.

07:46:50.360 He's come over to mine.

07:46:51.260 You finally, Ben, you finally see, you finally see things my way. 0.99

07:47:05.280 That's the funniest shit that I've ever heard of. 0.99

07:47:09.020 That's like that old story of the Buddha, you know, teaching a sermon, you know, and 1.00

07:47:12.860 all he had to say was President Donald Trump.

07:47:15.480 You know, in the last, last little bit of the episode, it would have been President Hillary 0.93

07:47:18.960 Clinton, and it wasn't.

07:47:20.040 Well, that wouldn't have been funny.

07:47:21.260 I will say that I do feel deprived that we don't get a result tonight because of something

07:47:28.480 like that, because the fact that we're all together and we can't watch what would happen

07:47:32.780 on MSNBC if they had to announce that Trump had won re-election and it was the full-fledged

07:47:36.680 opening of the arc at the end of Raiders and eyeballs falling out, heads exploding.

07:47:41.180 Well, they want everybody asleep.

07:47:42.280 They want to do what they're going to do in the dead of night.

07:47:44.020 They want us not to be able to watch it.

07:47:45.680 This is this is how everything nefarious happens there.

07:47:48.960 You know, obviously history is 2020, but there are hills that we should have stood and died

07:47:55.040 on and we didn't.

07:47:56.820 And the Al Franken election where they show up with 200 ballots, all for Franken in a

07:48:03.300 50-50 election.

07:48:04.440 Statistician says the nearest chance of that nearest whole number is zero.

07:48:07.680 But the one we should have, the one we should never, ever, ever have agreed to was the 2000 0.64

07:48:13.220 Florida election.

07:48:14.700 The rules are very clear.

07:48:16.400 In that state election in 2000 between Gore and Bush, you have a mechanical count of the

07:48:20.920 vote.

07:48:21.820 Bush won that count.

07:48:23.000 If it's within a certain margin of error, you can do another mechanical count of the vote

07:48:26.380 and Bush won that count too.

07:48:28.280 And that should have been the end of it.

07:48:29.660 And the fact that we let that thing go on for weeks and months and they're holding up

07:48:34.480 the chads and they're doing this whole thing, that is where we should have said, look, a

07:48:38.820 vote is not an opinion.

07:48:40.240 It is an action that you have to take.

07:48:42.400 It's not a difficult action.

07:48:43.800 But if you don't actually take this action in the correct order and put it in the right

07:48:48.480 box and mark the right things, then that's not our fault to try and figure out what you

07:48:53.660 really wanted to say.

07:48:55.100 Yeah.

07:48:55.300 And we didn't.

07:48:56.400 We just let it go on and on and on.

07:48:58.300 And from that moment forward is when the left started saying that George Bush's presidency

07:49:02.300 was illegitimate.

07:49:03.280 They did the same thing with Trump and they're going to do it now.

07:49:06.020 Well, this is the George Soros philosophy.

07:49:07.800 Basically, it's not who votes is who counts the votes that he's been placing the attorney

07:49:12.300 generals.

07:49:13.040 This guy tried it with Brexit.

07:49:14.760 Yeah, he tried to be lost with Brexit even the second time.

07:49:17.740 It is amazing that he figured out that it doesn't have to do with reality, has to do with

07:49:23.500 the guys who announced reality and he's funded them.

07:49:26.040 He's funded the D.A.s who are allowing all these riots to take place.

07:49:29.740 Almost all of them are George Soros.

07:49:31.140 I can't believe that you're a billion with a B.

07:49:33.440 Yeah.

07:49:33.740 Thirty four billion with a B.

07:49:36.280 I can't believe Drew's spouting these anti-Semitic.

07:49:38.560 I know.

07:49:39.680 Yeah, I don't know.

07:49:40.900 That's too much.

07:49:41.580 Too much.

07:49:42.580 Benjamin.

07:49:43.580 No, I just I will say that if Trump does end up losing narrowly, it is entirely due to

07:49:49.120 the media.

07:49:49.980 One hundred percent.

07:49:50.460 I mean, a hundred percent.

07:49:51.140 Yes, the election is already pre-stolen, right?

07:49:53.660 When when the Hunter Biden laptop story is not only not covered, but but you cannot you

07:49:59.440 cannot share the link with a friend, then that is a stolen election.

07:50:02.600 And that's also a pretty good definition of a monopoly, because if I decided to call you

07:50:07.100 and say, hey, you know, I think Trump's going to break me and I find out that the telephone

07:50:10.880 company has cut off my service because they don't like my opinion that I'm sharing with

07:50:16.320 you, then it's time to do something about about that monopoly.

07:50:19.480 So, Bill, you you remember I can't remember the name of the Newsweek editor who I believe

07:50:24.300 in 2008, Evan Thomas, Evan Thomas.

07:50:27.000 Was it 2008?

07:50:28.140 He said, no, it was it was 2004, 2004.

07:50:31.180 He said in 2004 that that media bias was probably a 15 point swing.

07:50:37.340 And I did a I did a video about that a few years later.

07:50:42.040 I took the electoral map of the United States, which would have been the Obama election 2008.

07:50:47.020 And I took 15 points and just swung them from one column to the other.

07:50:50.280 Just what the news media bias put into the map.

07:50:52.360 And the Democrats carried D.C. and they carried Hawaii.

07:50:58.940 And then McCain wins five hundred and eleven to nine.

07:51:04.540 So if he was saying in 2004, when the media still had the veneer of objectivity, that the

07:51:11.840 media was worth a 15 point swing in favor of the Democrats, what must it be now when they

07:51:15.700 literally will just stop your ability to say things?

07:51:18.320 But theoretically, it could be less because there is this movement against that.

07:51:22.780 Obviously, what we're seeing is a movement of people disbelieving what the media is telling

07:51:26.880 them.

07:51:27.280 I mean, how much can you lie before people start to say, well, you're lying?

07:51:30.540 You do also have to wonder, you know, you were asking what the purpose of some of the

07:51:33.900 polls are before.

07:51:35.000 And I don't think that everybody is nefariously oriented in order to get Democrats elected.

07:51:39.960 But if you were going to nefariously orient the polls in order to depress Republican turnout,

07:51:44.160 what you would do is put out a bunch of push polls suggesting that Joe Biden was up 17 points.

07:51:48.180 That's right.

07:51:48.460 In Wisconsin, the week before the election.

07:51:50.020 I don't think the Chinese created COVID-19 in a lab.

07:51:52.380 But if they were going to, a disease that primarily kills people in the age demographic

07:51:56.520 who vote for Trump and they give everyone the opportunity to shut down the American economy

07:52:01.200 wouldn't be a bad start.

07:52:02.560 I guess my thought on the pollsters, it's not that they have to be actively curious.

07:52:07.200 It's that they're all so in the same bubble that they all think so exactly the same, that

07:52:12.980 they all spend so much of their effort reinforcing one another that I don't think that they

07:52:16.720 would even subject their own beliefs or their own polling processes to the kind of scrutiny

07:52:21.820 that would be necessary to make them accurate or fair.

07:52:24.580 So here's a question for you, Jeremy.

07:52:26.300 What are the 2020 election, the COVID-19 pandemic and global warming have in common?

07:52:33.960 All three of them have large majorities of people who believe the computer models over

07:52:37.980 what they see with their own eyes.

07:52:39.220 All three of them are the result of computer modeling and so is the projections and so

07:52:44.840 are the polls.

07:52:46.580 There are numbers of people out there who, if you tell them this number comes out of a

07:52:50.080 computer, then they believe it.

07:52:52.520 And when they say they follow the science, when you hear Democrats saying, we're the party

07:52:57.240 that follows the science.

07:52:58.120 You're not the party that follows the science.

07:52:59.840 You're the party that follows the scientist.

07:53:02.040 You're the party that follows the expert and the authority.

07:53:04.980 But you're not the party that's following the data.

07:53:06.880 And this reminds me of the classic joke about liberal intellectuals, which is they say,

07:53:11.720 well, yeah, sure, it works in practice, but will it work in theory?

07:53:13.940 Does it work in theory?

07:53:15.500 Yeah, it's absolutely true and a great point that they famously with climate change, if

07:53:24.640 their model says that on November 3rd, 2020, the temperature in Los Angeles will be 93 degrees

07:53:31.920 and today is November 3rd, 2020, and they're in Los Angeles and it's 87 degrees, they will

07:53:37.480 not update their model.

07:53:38.580 These are guys.

07:53:39.240 Reality, reality is wrong.

07:53:40.560 These are guys that sit in a map room.

07:53:41.900 They draw a map and they got the coastline in the rivers.

07:53:43.820 Then they go up to the bridge and they look out the window and a coastline is predicted

07:53:47.200 there and they see all of these cliffs and they're predicting a river basin.

07:53:50.980 And they look at the at the coastline and they look at their map and say that the coastline

07:53:54.760 must be wrong.

07:53:55.620 Yeah.

07:53:55.880 Right.

07:53:56.160 And it's just that simple. 0.99

07:53:57.680 And and that is a kind of a mental illness.

07:54:00.760 But but it's real.

07:54:02.560 And they really are the kind of people who say, well, if there's a disagreement between

07:54:06.420 the atmosphere and the data, then the atmosphere is wrong.

07:54:08.660 Yeah.

07:54:08.800 If there's a disagreement between the poll numbers and the actual voting, then there's

07:54:12.440 obviously actual voters.

07:54:13.440 Well, this is actually the hallmark of the left is that no matter what fails, the the

07:54:19.020 underlying premise is still correct.

07:54:21.740 Right.

07:54:22.200 And so this is why I do think that the polling, it's not that it's nefarious.

07:54:26.920 I think there's probably some nefarious things that happen.

07:54:29.360 It's not that I'm saying that it's all nefarious per se.

07:54:32.360 It's that I'm saying that their system is so flawed and no matter how many times they

07:54:36.560 fail, they have no incentive to correct it because to correct it would be to acknowledge

07:54:40.840 that what they're wrong about is fundamental.

07:54:43.440 And not just around the fringes, not just it's not something that can be tweaked.

07:54:48.300 A couple of quick pieces of news.

07:54:49.660 One, the White House press pool is going to be assembling in the East Room.

07:54:52.320 So we should probably hear from the president shortly.

07:54:54.920 Also, the the Montana Senate race has been announced for Steve Daines.

07:54:58.660 So Republicans will in nearly all probability retain the Senate because with Daines winning

07:55:05.780 in Montana, you expect both Georgia races to go to the Republicans.

07:55:09.540 And you expect that.

07:55:11.920 I mean, honestly, like this is the first time I've ever rooted for Susan Collins, but Susan

07:55:15.600 Collins retains her seat in Maine.

07:55:17.420 And that is a major comeback because she was down five to seven points. 1.00

07:55:20.280 Speaking of Georgia, let's not forget.

07:55:22.560 This is the second time we've vanquished that utter liberal contrivance.

07:55:25.980 John Ossoff.

07:55:27.120 And remember, they made a big deal out of him.

07:55:29.020 They poured all the money.

07:55:29.940 The amount of money they poured into the Senate.

07:55:31.540 I mean, the amount of money that the Lincoln Project blew. 0.73

07:55:34.240 Those grifters.

07:55:35.300 I hope they enjoy.

07:55:36.380 I hope they enjoy their yacht because they're not going to get a lot of repeat business after

07:55:40.920 this one.

07:55:41.460 They're actually in the little dinghy that Mike Bloomberg tows behind his big yacht. 0.99

07:55:45.880 Mike Bloomberg dumping $100 million into Florida to get his ass kicked and them dumping 1.00

07:55:50.480 $100 million into South Carolina so that Lindsey Graham of all people could kick their ass. 1.00

07:55:54.960 Yeah, it's wonderful. 0.99

07:55:55.400 And then Mitch McConnell beating Amy McGrath by one million points after he cost $90 million

07:56:00.760 into that raise.

07:56:02.340 And they just set their money on fire in the Senate.

07:56:05.080 It is pretty impressive.

07:56:07.100 Georgia is still up for grabs, apparently.

07:56:09.720 Yeah, that's a little distressing.

07:56:12.620 It's a little too close for comfort there because the late polling numbers are still coming

07:56:16.300 in, particularly from Atlanta and some of the metro regions.

07:56:20.280 And so if Trump were to lose Georgia, the election's over, essentially.

07:56:22.820 I mean, if he loses Georgia, there's pretty much no way he can come back from losing Georgia

07:56:26.260 and Arizona if he were to lose both of those.

07:56:28.820 Well, Arizona is still in play.

07:56:30.460 It is.

07:56:31.500 He would have to.

07:56:32.480 Everything has to break for Trump to win Arizona.

07:56:34.500 The only network that is called Arizona remains Fox, I believe.

07:56:37.560 I don't think anybody else has actually called Arizona at this point.

07:56:40.180 But he's up 65% in the votes that are still, that are just now coming in.

07:56:44.620 Right.

07:56:44.740 The question is how many votes there are and does it retain it?

07:56:47.620 I think he has to win 67% of all outstanding votes and it has to be over 900,000 of them.

07:56:53.320 So I believe there are over 900,000 of them.

07:56:54.960 The question is whether he comes in at 61% or at 67%.

07:56:57.900 So it's a lot too close to call in Arizona, which goes to show that, I mean, I like Martha

07:57:03.320 McSally as a person, but you have to have a special kind of skill to lose both Senate

07:57:06.560 jumps in the course of three to four years.

07:57:09.080 Yeah, that's right.

07:57:09.600 I want to take a few questions from our dailywire.com members.

07:57:12.080 There's the, I keep saying they're the reason that the show has been free all night tonight.

07:57:16.020 And that's the truth.

07:57:17.200 We, we typically reserve this kind of content or at least large chunks of it for our dailywire.com

07:57:22.580 members.

07:57:23.040 But tonight we felt that, that the kind of community we've built, they would want everyone

07:57:27.940 to be able to participate in the show.

07:57:29.140 We're grateful to them.

07:57:29.960 So let's hear a few questions from them.

07:57:32.040 Alicia.

07:57:32.600 Yeah.

07:57:32.900 And real quick and real quick, guys, I just wanted to let you know that we're hearing from

07:57:38.140 multiple White House press pool reporters that the president could be speaking any

07:57:41.700 minute, probably in the next 10 minutes.

07:57:43.300 So we'll try to get to as many member questions as possible.

07:57:45.960 And we will definitely be going to the White House to hear from President Trump because

07:57:50.180 he has said that he's going to make a big announcement and that he thinks that he's

07:57:53.340 winning bigly.

07:57:54.300 We shall see about that.

07:57:55.820 So this question is for Andrew Klavan.

07:57:58.140 How much voter fraud do you expect?

07:58:01.440 How much voter fraud do I expect?

07:58:02.700 Voter fraud always comes in less than we fear it will.

07:58:05.920 But that doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

07:58:07.980 And in Pennsylvania, I'm genuinely worried.

07:58:10.080 I think that they have genuinely put forward an idea.

07:58:14.400 You know, when the attorney general tweets that when the votes are counted, Biden will

07:58:18.400 have won, that's suspect.

07:58:20.600 And I think that Knowles is right, that that gives Trump a way forward in the courts.

07:58:25.940 That's a good reason to sue.

07:58:27.680 But I'm not expecting the kind of I'm not personally expecting the kind of voter fraud

07:58:32.700 that can turn an actual victory into a defeat, except in Pennsylvania.

07:58:37.040 I think Pennsylvania has shown signs of being utterly corrupt.

07:58:41.040 You know, it's worth pointing out in Pennsylvania, a local news affiliate there did an experiment

07:58:45.080 early on with the mail-in ballots and they set up a dummy mailbox and they sent in the

07:58:49.100 mail-in ballots and they received two birthday cards to the mailbox.

07:58:52.700 So obviously some wires got crossed there.

07:58:54.400 But three of the hundred ballots went missing.

07:58:57.160 Yeah.

07:58:57.300 Three percent.

07:58:58.260 More than enough to swing an election.

07:58:59.860 That's just one news affiliate.

07:59:01.360 But on top of all of the evidence, and it's pretty significant evidence of fraud and corruption

07:59:06.880 there, that's a lot to be worried about.

07:59:08.660 There are going to be a lot of lawsuits, by the way, in Pennsylvania.

07:59:10.240 Oh, yeah.

07:59:10.780 And there should be.

07:59:11.720 It's just going to be crazy because essentially the governor of Pennsylvania decided unilaterally

07:59:17.380 to change the rules.

07:59:18.780 And the status quo ante, which is that they were all supposed to start processing the mail-in

07:59:22.660 ballots at 7 a.m. on Tuesday morning.

07:59:24.140 But eight counties said they were going to wait until tomorrow morning to start processing

07:59:28.100 all of these ballots.

07:59:30.860 And again, it is unclear by Pennsylvania process whether all of these things have to be postmarked

07:59:37.240 or not.

07:59:37.460 If they don't have to be postmarked, you literally have no way of knowing that the ballots were

07:59:41.680 legally cast before the election or if they were cast after the election.

07:59:45.400 It's going to end up back at the Supreme Court.

07:59:46.580 And frankly, John Roberts deserves it. 0.99

07:59:47.760 He deserves every single bit of it because that jerk, John Roberts, he's the one who turned 0.99

07:59:52.240 down this case a week ago thinking that he could avoid all responsibility for ever having 0.99

07:59:56.700 to rule on it if Donald Trump would just lose heavily, like the polls were saying.

07:59:59.860 And now it'll end up back at the Supreme Court and he's going to have to rule on it.

08:00:02.940 And then we'll get the specter of the legitimacy of the Supreme Court being called into question 0.97

08:00:06.860 because John Roberts is a doofus. 0.99

08:00:08.180 The damn well will be if he rules the wrong way. 0.99

08:00:11.020 It will be called into question by me and by conservatives. 0.95

08:00:13.840 Why is the court always so afraid of the left calling their legitimacy into question?

08:00:18.920 How about we call their legitimacy into question when they make preposterous

08:00:21.960 ruling?

08:00:22.260 Because we won't change the court.

08:00:23.820 They will.

08:00:24.460 That's right.

08:00:24.960 You know, you remember only a few weeks ago when the biggest scandal in the country was

08:00:28.840 that Donald Trump was going to destroy the post office so that people could vote.

08:00:32.020 Yeah.

08:00:32.220 One of the things that that I haven't heard enough people talk about is that when you use

08:00:37.580 mail-in ballots, you turn the federal government, you give the federal government a role in state

08:00:45.420 elections because we don't, you know, people like to say, oh, Donald Trump lost the popular

08:00:48.960 vote in 2016.

08:00:49.900 There is no popular vote.

08:00:51.020 There's no such thing as a national popular vote for president because we don't have a

08:00:54.540 national election.

08:00:55.480 If you're going to let sort of pure democracy add up everybody in the country, divide it

08:01:00.440 by two and see who got the most votes.

08:01:01.880 If that's how you wanted to come up with your president, you'd have to have a national

08:01:05.000 standard for elections.

08:01:06.520 But we have unbelievable diversity of standards in all of these different states because we

08:01:11.720 have 50 unique, unique elections.

08:01:14.360 When you bring the post office in, you alter that and you give the incumbent president.

08:01:19.820 I'm not saying Trump did this.

08:01:21.180 I'm actually speaking to the concern of the left.

08:01:22.700 You give the incumbent president who is the head of the post office.

08:01:26.000 Right.

08:01:26.180 That's an executive agency.

08:01:27.200 He's the chief executive of the country.

08:01:28.720 You give him power to influence the one.

08:01:32.100 In other words, what I'm saying is that one of the reasons that America has resisted tyranny

08:01:36.140 is because our government doesn't do much.

08:01:37.740 It's set up not to do much because of all these things we call checks and balances.

08:01:41.280 And there is this I don't think it was even intended that there's this incident.

08:01:45.120 There's this coincidental protection, which is that the chief executive doesn't have any

08:01:51.060 real power over the thing that elects him, which is 50 distinct presidential elections

08:01:57.160 around the country.

08:01:58.200 So what they've done by going to this mail in ballot system is they've actually made

08:02:02.320 it possible.

08:02:03.500 The left always it's always projection with the left.

08:02:05.680 They're saying, oh, Trump's they're realizing that this is possible.

08:02:08.300 So they're preemptively accusing this guy of doing it.

08:02:11.020 This guy obviously isn't doing it.

08:02:13.200 The next guy will.

08:02:13.940 We will see that the president will use the post office to preserve his own power now

08:02:19.720 that they've made the post office and made the number one mechanism for voting in the

08:02:24.040 country.

08:02:24.340 Quick, quick note here, just on a slightly separate topic.

08:02:27.120 You know, the president Trump gets a lot of credit and rightly so for getting out crowds

08:02:31.080 and sizes that people haven't seen and for the high levels of voter enthusiasm.

08:02:34.280 We need a slow clap for Mitch McConnell because that dude is just ice.

08:02:38.000 I mean, seriously, cocaine, Mitch, he brings it for capital establishment who we were all

08:02:42.600 ripping on back during the Tea Party days.

08:02:44.240 And I think with some good reason, the fact is that Mitch McConnell is almost solely responsible

08:02:49.160 for ramming through hundreds of good judges.

08:02:51.440 And not only that, he is going to he's going to retain his majority leadership in the Senate

08:02:56.000 tonight after all of this.

08:02:57.380 And there were a bunch of races that were knife's edge and he deployed the resources

08:03:01.320 properly.

08:03:01.880 That's right.

08:03:02.500 And listen, it's worth saying, if Donald Trump loses the presidency and Mitch McConnell retains

08:03:08.260 the Senate, then truly Mitch McConnell will have prevented the left wing revolution.

08:03:13.100 And by the way, you can add Lindsey Graham to that. 0.99

08:03:15.540 That's right.

08:03:16.080 Because you have Lindsey Graham, point one point one point oh and two point oh.

08:03:20.580 And both of them were radicalized for freedom by the by the Kavanaugh.

08:03:25.320 They both saw what was going on and were so outright disgusted by it that it kind of blew

08:03:29.820 that kind of outer shell of, you know, kind of rhino crust away like and now all of a

08:03:34.720 sudden, OK, so you really are bad people. 0.86

08:03:36.860 The great the gentleman from the great state of whatever you really are an actual tyrant, 0.86

08:03:41.420 aren't you?

08:03:41.940 And and a character assassin.

08:03:43.460 Yeah.

08:03:43.800 And and thank God for both of them.

08:03:45.600 Yeah.

08:03:45.820 Yeah.

08:03:46.160 Also, by the way, Republicans did pick up governorships tonight.

08:03:49.960 So Republicans ended up winning a few more governorships, which is really, really important.

08:03:54.520 State legislatures did not go the wrong way, widely speaking, which is a very good thing.

08:03:59.340 All of that is deeply important, considering redistricting is coming in 2020.

08:04:02.600 That's right.

08:04:02.880 If that had not happened, that would be a big, big, big problem.

08:04:05.520 Time to lose.

08:04:06.440 Alicia, we have time for another question from a dailywire.com member.

08:04:09.140 Absolutely.

08:04:09.720 And once again, if the president comes in, we'll be sure to go with it.

08:04:12.800 Ben, of course, last week you did a show about the resume or maybe lack of resume of Joe

08:04:17.840 Biden and how he's been in politics for longer than you and I have been alive.

08:04:20.940 So a member wants to know from you, which what do you think the first 100 days of a Biden

08:04:26.520 presidency would look like?

08:04:28.220 At this point, not much.

08:04:29.320 I mean, I think that if the Republicans maintain the Senate majority, it's going to be very

08:04:32.760 difficult to think of what a Biden presidency looks like in terms of major ambitions.

08:04:36.540 He was planning, you know, immigration reform.

08:04:38.860 He was planning Green New Deal.

08:04:40.080 He's planning a giant covid package.

08:04:42.000 I think he proposes a giant covid package.

08:04:43.760 I don't think Mitch McConnell gives it to him.

08:04:44.980 I think McConnell gives him pretty much what McConnell wants to give him.

08:04:47.380 I think that's pretty much it.

08:04:48.280 I think on immigration, he's not going to present a giant amnesty package.

08:04:51.720 I think his agenda is basically stopped cold in its tracks.

08:04:55.560 What you what you will see is a resurgence of resurgence of the regulatory state.

08:04:59.720 Right.

08:04:59.900 One problem with the way that Trump has approached the government.

08:05:02.500 And listen, he didn't create this.

08:05:03.580 Obama really created it.

08:05:05.120 That when you rule by executive fiat, when you do everything through executive action,

08:05:08.960 the next executive can just undo all of it.

08:05:11.240 So a lot of the great victories of the Trump administration have been through EOs.

08:05:14.960 And there will be real consequences to rolling those back.

08:05:18.460 A lot of the reason that the economy has surged pre covid under or pre lockdowns.

08:05:22.660 I don't like to blame covid covid didn't shut down the economy.

08:05:25.020 People shut down the economy before the covid shutdowns.

08:05:29.080 The economy was surging in part because of things that President Trump and his

08:05:32.920 administration were doing at the executive level, things that you don't hear about

08:05:36.840 cutting regulation, pulling back organizations like the EPA, getting out of the way of business.

08:05:42.180 You know, I think you'll see Biden tried to declare a national mask mandate by executive

08:05:45.380 order.

08:05:45.940 I think that you will see Joe Biden try to reengage with Iran and the Palestinian authority.

08:05:50.860 I think it's going to be not much of anything.

08:05:52.860 And the good news about that is that I think that's going to radicalize the Democrats even

08:05:56.120 further.

08:05:57.040 That's the genius of the American system, right?

08:05:58.940 You need that and the presidency if you're going to do real mischief, right?

08:06:02.800 If you're really going to mess things up, you got to have all three.

08:06:06.100 And what we come out of this with tonight is exactly like you said.

08:06:09.180 It's like there is a circuit breaker in there now.

08:06:11.860 Yeah.

08:06:12.400 And and that keeps us from the worst of the worst.

08:06:14.920 I would like to throw some pessimism on this.

08:06:16.880 I think we're being too nice.

08:06:17.980 Kind of to your point, Jeremy, though, I will defend the executive orders.

08:06:21.740 But it's the same problem that you're recognizing, which is that we are essentially governed by

08:06:26.160 the executive agencies, by the administrative state.

08:06:28.260 And so my defense of executive orders is when it's the administrative agencies that are running

08:06:32.960 the country, the only way to rein them in is through the executive orders, which then

08:06:37.220 get overturned.

08:06:37.780 But the problem is the problem is the problem is in that system.

08:06:40.960 And there's no way really around that, because even when Congress passes laws, the laws mostly

08:06:46.180 just empower the agencies to go do whatever they're going to do.

08:06:49.600 Remember when Elon Musk said he's going to open that Tesla factory, despite what the California

08:06:54.540 Board of Health said?

08:06:55.260 And he did it.

08:06:55.820 Yeah.

08:06:56.000 And you remember how they didn't arrest him?

08:06:58.300 I'm convinced that the reason they didn't arrest him was because Musk knew and they knew that

08:07:01.920 they didn't have the legal authority to arrest him.

08:07:03.640 That the whole thing is essentially a kind of an intimidation game.

08:07:07.560 And he called their bluff and and nothing happened to him.

08:07:11.140 He's going to Texas is what's happened.

08:07:12.940 But but they didn't.

08:07:14.420 But they they didn't.

08:07:15.660 It was such a high profile case that I think if they had the legal authority to shut the place

08:07:21.960 down, they would have.

08:07:22.620 But they didn't.

08:07:23.260 Yeah.

08:07:24.060 And that's just one.

08:07:25.140 It's an opinion.

08:07:25.800 He can afford to fight them, too.

08:07:28.100 Yeah.

08:07:28.620 He can afford the legal.

08:07:30.860 Yeah.

08:07:31.780 By the way, the current House count is ours are plus five in the House.

08:07:36.440 Republicans picked up five seats in the House, which nobody really saw coming.

08:07:39.100 There are a bunch of flippable seats.

08:07:40.980 Basically, anything that was in flippable distance, Republicans flipped.

08:07:43.800 I want to make a quick prediction about President Trump's speech.

08:07:46.180 I predict that President Trump will have achieved a flag density background. 0.97

08:07:50.840 Unlike anything.

08:07:54.680 He'll be swimming.

08:07:55.820 Donald Trump.

08:07:57.440 Always dive into that.

08:07:58.620 Right. 0.62

08:07:58.840 He's going to die.

08:07:59.580 He's going to swim around the flags.

08:08:00.860 But, you know, I remember you talking about quite rightly how Republicans never understood

08:08:06.120 the value of a background.

08:08:08.160 Yes.

08:08:08.340 Trump does not have that problem.

08:08:09.740 No, no, no.

08:08:10.780 He understands TV.

08:08:12.200 Right.

08:08:12.540 We've complained for years about his.

08:08:14.600 That's right.

08:08:15.080 About Republican inability to understand.

08:08:16.700 It's social proof.

08:08:17.520 If people are behind you smiling and applauding.

08:08:19.620 Yep. 1.00

08:08:19.780 No matter how stupid or bad the idea is or how good it is. 0.99

08:08:22.620 If people if you can see people nodding and agreeing, you are inclined to. 0.99

08:08:26.520 And want to agree.

08:08:27.060 And if there are some of them are, if not everybody is a white male, if some of them are black,

08:08:30.840 some of them.

08:08:31.140 That's right.

08:08:31.540 You know, he got all that.

08:08:32.780 You talked about this a million times.

08:08:34.540 Yeah.

08:08:34.720 Before Trump did it.

08:08:35.380 And he watched from watch for the outrage to break out because Joe Biden already declared

08:08:39.200 he thinks that he's going to win.

08:08:40.280 Yeah.

08:08:40.580 He says, I think I'm going to win.

08:08:42.020 And let's just let all the votes be counted.

08:08:43.900 And so Trump is going to come out and say precisely the same thing.

08:08:46.120 But he's going to add an implication that voter fraud might be in play and they're going 0.99

08:08:48.820 to lose their damn mind. 0.99

08:08:51.000 What Biden said was he said it's not over until all the votes are counted. 1.00

08:08:56.100 And there's a big difference there.

08:08:57.680 Well, that's true.

08:08:58.400 Because because technically speaking, it's over when the polls close.

08:09:02.080 But what Biden was setting up was he's setting up, no, no, it's not over until every vote

08:09:06.280 is counted, which means that if we find a man full of votes, then we've got to count those

08:09:10.380 two.

08:09:11.300 And it's just going to be a bloody mess this week.

08:09:14.100 It is going to be a bloody mess this week, unless we see bigger numbers in states like

08:09:18.560 Wisconsin than we have anticipated.

08:09:21.020 It is possible you could wake up tomorrow.

08:09:23.600 And this is really the problem.

08:09:26.320 And Bill, I've actually heard you talk about this for years.

08:09:29.020 Republicans don't have to win.

08:09:30.120 And they have to win beyond the margin of cheating.

08:09:32.560 Yeah, that's right.

08:09:33.180 Right.

08:09:33.380 You actually have to get a fraud.

08:09:34.800 One, two, three points ahead.

08:09:36.760 And it's not looking real good for that right now.

08:09:39.060 That's right.

08:09:39.920 Especially in Pennsylvania, which is going to be the most important state.

08:09:42.740 I think.

08:09:43.260 What is he, 15% up at this point?

08:09:46.320 Yeah, he's up about 700,000 votes in Pennsylvania right now.

08:09:49.100 But we're waiting for every major metro area in Pennsylvania to come in.

08:09:52.740 So that's why everybody is not calling it yet.

08:09:55.080 Same thing in Michigan.

08:09:56.040 Again, he's up about 300,000 votes in Michigan right now, but they're still waiting on a bunch

08:10:00.980 of votes.

08:10:01.840 And Wisconsin, he is up currently about 112,000 votes.

08:10:06.280 But again, they're waiting for Milwaukee to come in.

08:10:08.240 So if Milwaukee comes in and it ain't that heavy, or Madison comes in, and I think they're

08:10:12.800 still waiting on a little bit of Madison to come in.

08:10:14.420 If he wins Wisconsin, then, of course, everything shifts again.

08:10:17.520 So it's a real seesaw out there, really because of Arizona.

08:10:20.580 And so, you know, Mark Levin, I think rightly, was ripping on Cindy McCain, saying, like, you're

08:10:26.220 going, like, your personal animus between the McCain family and the Trump family.

08:10:30.680 Well, that's always been the McCain problem.

08:10:31.980 And listen, at a certain point, you do have to say to Trump that the man was cutting off

08:10:35.980 his nose to spite his face in Arizona.

08:10:37.120 Of course.

08:10:37.400 When this whole thing started, there were two Republican senators in Arizona and a Republican

08:10:40.580 governor.

08:10:41.320 And by this point, there are two Democratic senators in Arizona and a Republican governor in

08:10:44.800 Doug Ducey.

08:10:45.600 He won in 2016 in the state.

08:10:46.860 He's presumably going to lose in Arizona in the state.

08:10:50.140 I understand that Trump has personal animus issues.

08:10:53.760 But, dude, dude, I mean, like, that'd be two more Republican senators.

08:10:57.340 This is one of the consequences of Donald Trump.

08:11:00.240 It'll be a great irony if Donald Trump loses because of his treatment of McCain.

08:11:03.240 Because he crapped on John McCain.

08:11:04.260 One of the worst things that Donald Trump did was his treatment of John McCain.

08:11:07.700 That doesn't justify what John McCain or the McCain family has done subsequently.

08:11:12.260 John McCain essentially upheld Obamacare despite Donald Trump.

08:11:15.020 Single-handedly.

08:11:15.820 Yep.

08:11:15.900 Like Caesar, right?

08:11:18.100 I mean, out on the floor.

08:11:19.500 But you can be angry with John McCain for his behavior.

08:11:24.080 That doesn't change that you should also be angry with Donald.

08:11:26.980 I'm sorry, would you be mad at John McCain for his behavior?

08:11:29.260 You should also be mad at Donald Trump.

08:11:31.360 You can't treat someone like that and then expect them to support you.

08:11:34.220 For four years, I've been going on and saying, you know, you shouldn't be rude to people.

08:11:37.900 And people yell at me and say, oh, well, Donald Trump has to be rude.

08:11:40.980 And I think, like, it's just not good politics.

08:11:42.900 But it's what he costs.

08:11:44.120 Yeah.

08:11:44.400 That's what he costs.

08:11:45.220 That's how that's that's what Donald Trump costs.

08:11:47.120 To have a guy who's who's got that kind of skin and that he's going to come out in a few seconds and he's going to reframe the narrative from Joe Biden saying, if we keep counting votes, we think we're winning.

08:11:57.880 Donald Trump's going to come out and say, no, they're stealing this election.

08:12:00.040 And he's going to reframe the narrative and no one else that I've ever seen on the Republican side has that kind of it's a good it's a good point.

08:12:07.500 It is the tragic fact of Donald Trump that all his strengths are also weaknesses and all those weaknesses.

08:12:13.000 That's the sad tragedy of humans.

08:12:14.500 Maybe all those shrinks. 1.00

08:12:15.480 Yeah, but he kind of blows it up to Trumpy levels.

08:12:17.860 It's a very tragic flaw.

08:12:18.680 It turns out that his thin skin nature with regard to John McCain and his constant ripping on him is what costs him the election.

08:12:23.620 Yeah.

08:12:23.820 I agree, obviously.

08:12:25.040 I mean, a lot of the things that, you know, we rip on are some of the things that allow him to blow off conventionalism and do incredible things for sure.

08:12:32.620 But like, at least in the interest of self-interest, you would think that at a certain point, you'd be like, just lay it off, dude.

08:12:38.020 Just lay it off.

08:12:39.160 But the classic historical example is people complaining to Lincoln that Grant was a drinker and Lincoln says, I can't spare this man.

08:12:47.420 He fights.

08:12:48.000 I don't care if he's a drink.

08:12:49.160 I do care if he's a drinker.

08:12:50.580 As a matter of fact, I care a great deal that he's a drinker and it's a real problem.

08:12:53.660 But he's irreplaceable.

08:12:55.780 And I'll take the drinking if that's what Ulysses Grant costs me to win the war.

08:13:01.040 Right.

08:13:01.500 But Donald Trump has to win the war.

08:13:03.620 Correct. 1.00

08:13:03.760 If Ulysses S. Grant gets drunk off his ass and loses Vicksburg, it's a different story. 1.00

08:13:06.500 That's a different story. 1.00

08:13:07.400 That's exactly right.

08:13:08.760 And, you know, he would not be Donald Trump if he weren't like this.

08:13:12.060 Everything good, we get out of it.

08:13:13.980 We get the bad stuff, too.

08:13:16.260 Well, so we're moments away from hearing from the president from the White House.

08:13:20.000 I'm hoping, honestly, I do hope that he uses a little bit of measured language about stealing

08:13:24.160 the election.

08:13:25.540 I hope he pulls a Charles II and disbands the Congress.

08:13:29.520 You know, at this point, I want to win.

08:13:31.540 If he doesn't, he needs to have a staff.

08:13:33.260 He does.

08:13:33.620 He needs Gandalf's staff is what he needs.

08:13:35.400 He needs to just put Gandalf's staff down like that and have the top of it start glowing.

08:13:39.940 You shall not count votes past the end of election day.

08:13:44.200 That was my favorite Babylon Bee story was after he got COVID and they said, Trump the

08:13:50.720 orange returns as Trump the white.

08:13:54.080 You guys probably didn't catch it, but earlier tonight, the Babylon Bee tweeted out saying

08:13:57.660 election results may take weeks to count due to the due to the Common Core new math.

08:14:06.940 They really are national treasures.

08:14:08.720 Oh, they are.

08:14:09.740 They're just getting better and better.

08:14:11.020 Yeah, they're actually funny.

08:14:12.940 I'm like the Daily Show that put out a meme of Death Star blowing up Florida.

08:14:16.600 I'm old enough to remember when Republicans putting that kind of stuff out.

08:14:19.620 Violence.

08:14:20.120 Considered violence and bad.

08:14:21.080 I mean, I'm old enough to remember because I'm more than 20 seconds old.

08:14:24.760 That's right.

08:14:25.300 If someone were murdered in Florida, if the Republicans had put that out and someone were

08:14:30.180 to be murdered in Florida tomorrow for any reason, I mean, like a bank robbery happens

08:14:35.620 and a guy died.

08:14:35.900 Or most of the useful protesters.

08:14:37.380 Absolutely.

08:14:38.020 Yes, that's true.

08:14:38.720 So like the ultimate good news is, is that we're still in a 50-50 election with that

08:14:45.460 kind of headwind, right?

08:14:46.440 That's right.

08:14:46.640 With the ability to say that anything that Donald Trump does and have front page of the

08:14:50.380 New York Times and 15 days of coverage on CNN and then anything that Biden does is buried,

08:14:55.380 there's got to be a 40-point headwind that we're facing with big media and big tech.

08:14:59.400 I'll bet it's 40 points and the country's still here.

08:15:02.040 And that goes to show you how fundamentally sound this country is, that you can take this

08:15:08.400 kind of a bias and still even be in the game.

08:15:11.920 Yeah, but it shouldn't be there.

08:15:13.440 You know, it's like we shouldn't just bow our heads and say, this is the way it is.

08:15:16.840 We've got it.

08:15:17.380 You know, when we talk about the replacement media, that's it.

08:15:20.420 We've got to replace them.

08:15:21.140 We've got to replace them.

08:15:22.760 Yeah, we're not going to start winning by losing.

08:15:24.620 That's right.

08:15:24.940 And one of the problems that conservatives face is that we abandon the culture entirely

08:15:29.540 for the last 40 years.

08:15:30.760 And then we're shocked that the culture doesn't look like us anymore.

08:15:33.840 Right.

08:15:34.040 I thought we were a Christian nation.

08:15:35.800 Yeah, we were.

08:15:36.420 And then all the Christians decided not to be a part of the nation. 0.99

08:15:38.420 Yeah.

08:15:38.680 I thought we were a conservative nation. 1.00

08:15:40.540 Yeah, you suck. 1.00

08:15:41.880 I thought we loved him. 1.00

08:15:42.780 I thought we taught our kids to love America.

08:15:44.200 No, we haven't done that in a generation.

08:15:46.160 Right.

08:15:46.480 And you just gave up on it.

08:15:47.780 And you call it fascism if we do.

08:15:49.360 Yeah.

08:15:49.880 People literally call it fascism.

08:15:51.180 If Trump says we're going to teach people about the founding of the country and we're going to do

08:15:53.780 so in a patriotic way and we're going to hand out constitutions.

08:15:57.100 Ah, it's fascism.

08:15:58.000 It's just like Nazi Germany. 0.70

08:15:59.320 The Pledge of Allegiance.

08:16:00.260 If only there was some kind of historical series about, like, great Americans that people

08:16:05.840 just didn't know about.

08:16:08.120 You know, we should make that.

08:16:09.140 That would be a good idea.

08:16:09.700 You've got to do that with The Daily Wire.

08:16:10.900 I think I could probably give those scripts for you by morning.

08:16:14.780 And if you'd like to access those, you can head on over to dailywire.com right now

08:16:17.940 and you should subscribe.

08:16:18.740 25% off with code election.

08:16:20.720 If you thought I was going to miss the chance, click on that once more.

08:16:23.660 Wrong you were.

08:16:24.740 We're just going to vamp on this until Trump comes up.

08:16:27.240 My father taught me to never pass up a cheap shot.

08:16:29.980 And Ben's father taught him to never pass up a promo code.

08:16:34.160 Hence our relative levels of success.

08:16:35.780 The bus is significantly wealthier than the other.

08:16:36.900 That's the way that works right now.

08:16:37.980 That's where the divide happened.

08:16:39.140 Yeah.

08:16:40.560 So which flag is Trump hiding behind?

08:16:42.460 Yeah, exactly.

08:16:43.340 It's like, where's Waldo with flags?

08:16:44.560 They're going to part like the beginning of a movie premiere.

08:16:48.980 And he's just going to walk out in the spotlight.

08:16:50.520 It's going to be pitch black.

08:16:51.240 And then he's going to sing, play it against him.

08:16:57.180 It's late in the evening, people, if you hadn't realized.

08:17:00.100 We definitely started to fade about four hours ago.

08:17:02.620 We're close to the point where Wisconsin results become not all that far off, right?

08:17:06.020 It's supposed to happen at 3 a.m. Eastern.

08:17:08.860 It is now 2.20 p.m. Eastern time.

08:17:11.720 Also, it's worth pointing out, just for framing the president,

08:17:14.180 you know, it is 2.17 there right now.

08:17:16.600 He's a 74-year-old man who somehow has a shocking amount of energy.

08:17:21.360 But Joe Biden has been asleep for hours at this point.

08:17:24.020 And Donald Trump is going to give a speech at 2.30 in the morning.

08:17:27.160 That's right.

08:17:27.680 Donald Trump, who was hospitalized with COVID-19 something like four weeks ago,

08:17:32.320 is about to walk out on a stage at almost 3 o'clock in the morning.

08:17:35.860 And listen, one thing about the president,

08:17:37.500 we've had one truly punctual president in my lifetime, and that's George W. Bush.

08:17:41.560 George W. Bush would never, he would consider it beneath his dignity as a man

08:17:46.600 to let us sit here and look at a bunch of flags when he said that he was going to be on TV.

08:17:51.560 No other president has been that way, certainly not Barack Obama, definitely not Donald Trump.

08:17:55.640 Donald Trump will milk a moment.

08:17:57.460 And if he thinks that there's any chance he's going to be able to walk out and say that he won Wisconsin,

08:18:01.680 he'll keep us staring at these flags for the next 42 minutes.

08:18:04.620 All you need to know about that is when Donald Trump goes out and does a rally,

08:18:08.020 and I've covered a lot of these rallies, you'll hear the Lee Greenwood start playing,

08:18:13.100 and then he walks out.

08:18:14.580 He, every single second of that song, he'll dance a little, he'll point, he'll walk up to the podium,

08:18:21.960 he'll pull back from the podium.

08:18:23.620 It's all he wants every second, and I think we're getting that tonight.

08:18:26.740 Georgia is incredibly tight.

08:18:28.400 Right now, if Fulton and DeKalb County come in at the same rate they have,

08:18:32.480 and this is according to Jonathan Allen, and this is from NBC News,

08:18:36.420 and the percentage is accurate.

08:18:38.960 Biden would then net 126,000 votes.

08:18:40.880 The entire margin right now is 118,000 votes.

08:18:43.260 Wow.

08:18:43.520 So it is extremely tight in Georgia.

08:18:47.380 That's probably the most troubling news.

08:18:48.780 Yeah, for sure.

08:18:49.280 I agree.

08:18:49.540 On the table right now.

08:18:50.880 You know, whatever happens tomorrow morning,

08:18:54.440 well, you guys are going to have to get up and do your shows.

08:18:56.280 I will not because, well, I am the God King.

08:18:59.500 But people need to understand that there is still going to be enormous amounts of breaking news tomorrow

08:19:06.060 that needs to be covered, and the Daily Wire is going to be your place to get that coverage.

08:19:10.060 We keep talking about being the replacement media.

08:19:12.320 We keep talking about being your source for information.

08:19:14.600 That's not – we've announced the Candace Owens edition moving to Nashville with us. 0.89

08:19:18.140 We've announced the Prager U Library, announced the New Morning Show,

08:19:20.820 announced the investigative journalists, announced our foray into fiction.

08:19:24.040 All of that is stuff that will happen over the next three to four months.

08:19:28.060 But right now, as we speak, this is still a better place for you to get information

08:19:32.440 than any existing media sources.

08:19:34.860 They're going to wake up tomorrow morning and start lying to you.

08:19:37.300 Come over to Daily Wire.

08:19:38.460 We'll tell you the truth to the best of our ability, and we'll at least tell you our biases

08:19:41.580 so that you have a filter by which to weigh the things that we tell you.

08:19:45.760 We're not trying to pull one over on you.

08:19:47.340 We tell you exactly who we are, what we think, and how we assess these situations.

08:19:51.580 You'll want to tune in first thing in the morning.

08:19:53.020 Michael, what time do you go live?

08:19:54.860 So it just occurred to me I might not be going to sleep tonight

08:19:57.500 because I'm live for the website at 6.30 a.m. Pacific,

08:20:02.760 and then that goes live for everybody else a little later.

08:20:06.200 So if you're a Daily Wire member, you can watch that live on the website.

08:20:10.420 That is 6.30 a.m., which means I will – whatever bags you see under my eyes now,

08:20:14.660 they're going to be much deeper later.

08:20:16.080 But the reason probably I won't be able to go to sleep is we are going to be getting breaking news all night long.

08:20:21.240 We'll probably still be getting breaking news as my show starts tomorrow.

08:20:24.140 So if anything, I'm thinking of my show tomorrow as an extension of this live stream

08:20:28.320 because you're going to get extraordinarily consequential information coming in.

08:20:32.920 It might not even all be in by the end of the show.

08:20:35.220 Yeah, that's right.

08:20:35.760 And that will be the same for all of the guys tomorrow morning.

08:20:38.500 There will be a lot of news.

08:20:39.580 We're going to be bringing it all to you to the best of our –

08:20:42.840 I won't be, as I said.

08:20:44.020 I will be sleeping and just assuming that these guys are doing a good job,

08:20:47.380 and then I'll wake up periodically to make sure that the coffers are full

08:20:50.440 and that I still have power because these are the only things that matter to me.

08:20:54.300 I'm the grifter in the group.

08:20:56.100 These guys actually –

08:20:56.840 Fluff your pillow of money on your bedroom.

08:20:58.820 Here we see the Trump family walking into the briefing room.

08:21:03.660 Like literally all of them.

08:21:05.180 Yeah, every Trump.

08:21:06.760 Where's Barron?

08:21:08.040 He walks in.

08:21:08.700 There's Lonnie.

08:21:09.480 Yeah, there's Lonnie Trump, the lesser-known Trump son.

08:21:14.740 Kind of shiftless, Lonnie.

08:21:16.620 You don't hear much about him.

08:21:18.120 No, no, no.

08:21:18.700 Hey, we opened a Motel 8 for Lonnie.

08:21:22.740 He's only worth $900,000, the black sheep.

08:21:24.880 That's right.

08:21:29.680 Donald J. Trump.

08:21:33.080 Well, thank you very much.

08:21:58.000 Thank you.

08:21:58.600 Thank you very much.

08:22:03.560 Please, Seth.

08:22:04.200 Thank you.

08:22:05.540 This is without question the latest news conference I've ever had.

08:22:10.300 We love you.

08:22:11.620 We love you, Seth.

08:22:12.860 Thank you.

08:22:13.840 Thank you.

08:22:15.960 I appreciate it very much.

08:22:17.820 And I want to thank the American people for their tremendous support.

08:22:21.920 Millions and millions of people voted for us tonight.

08:22:24.560 And a very sad group of people is trying to disenfranchise that group of people.

08:22:33.840 And we won't stand for it.

08:22:35.760 We will not stand for it.

08:22:36.920 I want to thank the First Lady, my entire family, and Vice President Pence, Mrs. Pence, for being with us all through this.

08:22:53.220 And we were getting ready for a big celebration.

08:22:56.700 We were winning everything, and all of a sudden it was just called off.

08:23:02.360 The results tonight have been phenomenal, and we are getting ready.

08:23:08.220 I mean, literally, we were just all set to get outside and just celebrate something that was so beautiful, so good, such a vote, such a success.

08:23:19.700 The citizens of this country have come out in record numbers.

08:23:23.300 This is a record.

08:23:24.460 There's never been anything like it.

08:23:26.100 To support our incredible movement, we won states that we weren't expected to win.

08:23:31.000 In Florida, we didn't win it.

08:23:32.500 We won it by a lot.

08:23:40.520 We won the great state of Ohio.

08:23:44.880 We won Texas.

08:23:46.660 We won Texas.

08:23:47.540 We won Texas by 700,000 votes, and they don't even include it in the tabulations.

08:23:59.960 It's also clear that we have won Georgia.

08:24:06.660 We're up by 2.5 percent or 117,000 votes with only 7 percent left.

08:24:14.860 They're never going to catch us.

08:24:15.800 They can't catch us.

08:24:17.480 Likewise, we've clearly won North Carolina.

08:24:23.900 We're up 1.4 percent or 77,000 votes with only approximately 5 percent left.

08:24:32.360 They can't catch us.

08:24:33.140 We also, if you look and you see Arizona, we have a lot of life in that, and somebody said, somebody declared that it was a victory for us, and maybe it will be.

08:24:47.360 I mean, that's possible, but certainly there were a lot of votes out there that we could get because we're now just coming into what they call Trump territory.

08:24:55.820 I don't know what you call it, but these were friendly Trump voters, and that could be overturned.

08:25:01.500 The gentleman that called it I watched tonight, he said, well, we think it's fairly unlikely that he could catch.

08:25:07.220 Well, fairly unlikely.

08:25:08.160 And we don't even need it.

08:25:11.440 We don't need that.

08:25:12.460 That was just a state that if we would have gotten it, it would have been nice, Arizona.

08:25:16.880 But there's a possibility, maybe even a good possibility.

08:25:21.060 In fact, since I saw that originally, it's been changed, and the numbers have substantially come down just in a small amount of votes.

08:25:29.280 So we want that, obviously, to stay in play.

08:25:32.960 But most importantly, we're winning Pennsylvania by a tremendous amount of votes.

08:25:38.360 We're up 600, think of this, think of this, think of this.

08:26:04.020 We're up 690,000 votes in Pennsylvania, 690,000.

08:26:12.380 These aren't even close.

08:26:13.860 It's not like, oh, it's close.

08:26:16.740 With 64 percent of the vote in, it's going to be almost impossible to catch.

08:26:24.460 And we're coming into good Pennsylvania areas where they happen to like your president.

08:26:29.680 I mean, it's very good.

08:26:31.760 So we'll probably expand that.

08:26:36.560 We're winning Michigan.

08:26:38.560 I'll tell you, I looked at the numbers.

08:26:40.420 I said, whoa.

08:26:41.320 I looked.

08:26:41.840 I said, wow, that's a lot.

08:26:45.140 By almost 300,000 votes.

08:26:48.340 And 65 percent of the vote is in.

08:26:53.540 And we're winning Wisconsin.

08:26:55.500 And so we're winning.

08:26:56.080 We don't need all of them.

08:26:57.040 We need, because when you add Texas in, which wasn't added, I spoke with the really wonderful governor of Texas just a little while ago.

08:27:08.100 And Greg Abbott, he said, congratulations.

08:27:11.000 He called me to congratulate me on winning Texas.

08:27:13.460 I mean, we won Texas.

08:27:14.740 I don't think they finished quite the tabulation, but there's no way.

08:27:17.440 And it was almost complete.

08:27:20.160 But he congratulated me.

08:27:21.880 Then he said, by the way, what's going on?

08:27:23.560 I've never seen anything like this.

08:27:25.520 Can I tell you what?

08:27:26.420 Nobody has.

08:27:28.160 So we won by 107,000 votes with 81 percent of the vote.

08:27:33.600 That's Michigan.

08:27:34.200 So when you take those three states in particular and you take all of the others, I mean, we have we have so many.

08:27:42.900 We had such a big night.

08:27:44.680 You just take a look at all of these states that we've won tonight and then you take a look at the kind of margins that we've won them by.

08:27:51.780 And all of a sudden, it's not like we're up 12 votes and we have 60 percent left.

08:27:57.960 We won states.

08:27:59.460 And all of a sudden, I said, what happened to the election?

08:28:02.800 It's off.

08:28:04.280 And we have all these announcers saying, what happened?

08:28:08.440 And then they said, oh, because you know what happened?

08:28:12.200 They knew they couldn't win.

08:28:14.860 So they said, let's go to court.

08:28:18.020 And did I predict this?

08:28:19.440 Newt, did I say this?

08:28:20.680 I've been saying this from the day I heard they were going to send out tens of millions of ballots.

08:28:26.220 I said exactly because either they were going to win or if they didn't win, they'll take us to court.

08:28:32.680 So Florida was a tremendous victory.

08:28:36.340 Texas, as we said, Ohio, think of this.

08:28:45.900 Ohio, a tremendous state, a big state.

08:28:49.680 I love Ohio.

08:28:50.500 Ohio, we won by 8.1 percent, 461 percent.

08:28:54.860 Think of it.

08:28:56.000 Almost 500,000 votes.

08:28:58.940 North Carolina, big victory with North Carolina.

08:29:01.660 And so we won there.

08:29:05.640 We lead by 76,000 votes with almost nothing left.

08:29:11.440 And all of a sudden, everything just stopped.

08:29:13.580 This is a fraud on the American public.

08:29:18.740 This is an embarrassment to our country.

08:29:22.660 We were getting ready to win this election.

08:29:26.240 Frankly, we did win this election.

08:29:29.040 We did win this election.

08:29:30.020 So our goal now is to ensure the integrity for the good of this nation.

08:29:39.940 This is a very big moment.

08:29:42.220 This is a major fraud on our nation.

08:29:45.220 We want the law to be used in a proper manner.

08:29:49.760 So we'll be going to the U.S. Supreme Court.

08:29:53.560 We want all voting to stop.

08:29:57.000 We don't want them to find any ballots at 4 o'clock in the morning and add them to the list.

08:30:03.460 Okay?

08:30:05.040 It's a very sad moment.

08:30:09.340 To me, this is a very sad moment.

08:30:10.980 And we will win this.

08:30:13.320 And as far as I'm concerned, we already have won it.

08:30:16.360 So I just want to thank you.

08:30:18.020 And I want to thank all of our support.

08:30:24.040 I want to thank all of the people that worked with us.

08:30:27.600 And, Mr. Vice President, say a few words, please.

08:30:32.960 Please.

08:30:33.460 Thank you, Mr. President.

08:30:48.760 I want to join you in thanking more than 60 million Americans who have already cast their

08:30:55.040 vote for four more years for President Donald Trump in the White House.

08:30:58.700 And while the votes continue to be counted, we're going to remain vigilant, as the President

08:31:07.800 said.

08:31:09.040 The right to vote has been at the center of our democracy since the founding of this

08:31:13.520 nation, and we're going to protect the integrity of the vote.

08:31:16.380 But I really believe with all of my heart, with the extraordinary margins, Mr. President,

08:31:20.720 that you've inspired in the states that you just described and the way that you launched

08:31:25.880 this movement across the country to make America great again.

08:31:30.280 I truly do believe, as you do, that we are on the road to victory and we will make America

08:31:36.800 great again, again.

08:31:39.620 Thank you, Mr. President.

08:31:41.880 Thank you very much, Mr. President.

08:31:46.440 There you have it, the President and Vice President Mike Pence making their remarks.

08:31:53.120 President Trump saying, as far as I'm concerned, we've already won it, will be the only headline

08:31:58.780 that you read when you wake up tomorrow.

08:32:01.360 Every newspaper in the country is now, you know, furiously rejiggering their front page

08:32:06.840 so that they can talk about the Red Mirage and Twitter and Facebook and YouTube and Google.

08:32:11.900 I am certain before any of us are asleep tonight, we'll already be fact-checking the President,

08:32:17.080 censoring the President, saying that, I mean, look, they told us this was going to happen.

08:32:21.680 We don't have to guess what's going to happen.

08:32:23.960 All of the major social networks and media organizations said they would not allow someone

08:32:29.040 to say what President Trump just said tonight.

08:32:31.900 Michael, what do you think is going to happen?

08:32:33.060 I think the left is cheating.

08:32:34.640 I think they've been cheating since 2016.

08:32:36.820 I think they're obviously cheating now.

08:32:38.780 I think they're cheating by changing the rules.

08:32:40.720 I think they're cheating by not continuing to count the ballots overnight.

08:32:44.740 I think they're cheating in court.

08:32:46.140 And I think they're cheating with crooked elected officials like the Attorney General

08:32:50.200 of Pennsylvania who called the election for Biden before Election Day even. 0.80

08:32:53.900 And I think it is a damn fine thing that the President is standing up to it.

08:32:57.940 He said something tonight that I think a lot of people are going to say was extreme. 0.69

08:33:02.480 He shouldn't have gone that far.

08:33:03.300 He said, I think we're going to win as far as I'm concerned we already have.

08:33:09.020 That was where it went far, right?

08:33:11.440 Because he's saying as far as I'm concerned we've already won this race.

08:33:14.160 That is the kind of extreme rhetoric that you're not going to get from Mitt Romney.

08:33:19.320 You're not going to get it from John McCain.

08:33:20.400 You didn't get it from Mike Pence afterward.

08:33:22.420 That makes people uncomfortable.

08:33:24.360 It is the evidence.

08:33:25.560 It is the maybe it's the negative thing, but it's also the positive thing about Trump that he is a fighter.

08:33:30.500 He is going to going to go to court.

08:33:32.300 I don't think he said anything there about ever, ever violating the law or cheating or doing any.

08:33:37.100 Michael, didn't the left, they set up the president for months.

08:33:40.500 Yes.

08:33:40.720 For this very moment, first by saying he's going to he's definitely going to win on election night, but that's only going to be part of the story.

08:33:47.240 That narrative has been in play and he will not concede the election.

08:33:51.000 And so what happened?

08:33:52.120 Exactly what they predicted election night.

08:33:54.960 You know, here he is doing very well.

08:33:57.280 They push pause on the voting.

08:33:58.960 Essentially, they prepared us to see the red mirage begin to fade over the coming hours.

08:34:03.460 And the president did not concede and, in fact, said he's going to fight right in the end.

08:34:07.880 Ben, what's your take?

08:34:09.360 OK, so Mike Pence said what you're supposed to say, which is the exact same thing that Biden said, right, which is we think we're on the road to victory.

08:34:14.860 And when all the votes are counted, then the votes will be counted.

08:34:16.840 And, you know, he could have left open the possibility that litigation would be necessary if voter fraud was detected or suspected.

08:34:23.880 Right. I mean, there's a responsible way to do this.

08:34:25.220 I'm sorry, but it is deeply irresponsible for the president of the United States to declare in the middle of an election where not even close to all the votes have been counted in major swing states that he has already won the election and that it's a major fraud on the American people.

08:34:36.580 Otherwise, I'm sorry, but the question is responsible for him to say that as it is for the age of Pennsylvania to say that the question is, what are going to be counted?

08:34:43.820 The question is, in Pennsylvania, are they going to invent a bunch of votes because they don't even need to.

08:34:47.340 And if there's evidence that a bunch of votes are invented, then it'll end up in court.

08:34:50.000 But to preemptively declare fraud before any of those votes have been counted, to declare that he's already won the election when 60 percent of when he says things like I'm up by 100000 votes in Michigan and 60 percent of the vote has been counted or 65 percent of the vote.

08:35:02.400 There's no way that I could lose the state. Are you kidding me?

08:35:04.580 Of course, there's a way you could lose the state.

08:35:05.720 You can just count the rest of the votes.

08:35:07.360 OK, if we had taken that logic in Florida, you would have lost Florida.

08:35:10.360 If we taken that logic in Texas, we lost Texas.

08:35:12.380 That's not the way this works.

08:35:13.460 He's saying in Arizona we need to wait until every single vote is counted.

08:35:15.820 He's exactly right about Arizona.

08:35:17.260 You can't then say, OK, we're not going to wait until every vote is counted in legally, legally counted.

08:35:22.180 Right. The ones that we all agree have to be legally cast.

08:35:24.500 That means none of this crap where you find a box of ballots that are filled, you know, two days late with no postmarks.

08:35:30.840 That is well deserving of any sort of lawsuit he wants to bring. 0.97

08:35:34.520 That is well deserving of every screech that he can bring to bear.

08:35:37.240 But you can't preemptively declare that the that this vote is a fraud on the American people before there's evidence that that has happened.

08:35:43.940 Well, I can you tell you have preemptively won the election before the election is won.

08:35:46.940 I'll push back just a little bit, Ben, because generally you and I see eye to eye on these things.

08:35:50.220 There is a fraud being perpetrated, though, to Michael's point.

08:35:53.940 The fraud has been going on for four years, but certainly the fraud has been going on for several months.

08:35:58.480 The left has been in a very sophisticated way creating this exact moment.

08:36:04.020 And by pushing pause in some of these states on the vote counting overnight, what they are essentially saying is we we don't want the count to end before our opportunity to cheat.

08:36:14.560 Bingo begins. In other words, we've got to send everybody home so that if more votes need to come, if more ballots need to come in, there's no way to read that other than an opportunity for cheating.

08:36:25.700 Well, you might say you might say they're not going to cheat or you might say there's no evidence that they have cheated.

08:36:29.780 You might it might even be factually true that they don't cheat, but they are giving themselves room to cheat.

08:36:36.420 OK, that is all possible. And what he could easily say is they shouldn't have paused the voting.

08:36:41.340 And we have our lawyers on the ground in all of these states making sure there will be no cheating.

08:36:45.340 We are ready to file lawsuits if we detect the first sign of voter fraud.

08:36:48.480 Right. That is all perfectly within bounds to declare himself the preemptive victor of an election in which half the votes have not yet been counted in any of the swing states he needs to win.

08:36:55.540 And remember, if he loses Arizona, which it looks like he's going to, he doesn't just need to win Pennsylvania.

08:36:59.820 He needs to win Pennsylvania and Wisconsin or Pennsylvania and Michigan.

08:37:02.980 Right. Right. I mean, when he says that they put aside the fact that he preemptively declared that he'd won Georgia, he may very well win Georgia.

08:37:11.700 But Georgia is very close at this point. I just don't I don't like this stuff.

08:37:14.620 I would be on. I spent half my show today ripping up the Pennsylvania AG for saying the exact same thing.

08:37:19.640 Well, I think there's I think there is a distinction, which is that the Pennsylvania AG actually has authority in the Pennsylvania election.

08:37:26.500 And Donald Trump actually doesn't have any authority over.

08:37:30.040 And and and the the Pennsylvania AG saying before the even votes start to be counting.

08:37:35.840 The thing that Donald Trump did in this speech is he not is he not he not only just made the case, he quantified it.

08:37:42.140 He quantified large, significant leads.

08:37:44.900 And and my take on this is different than yours, Ben.

08:37:48.540 My take is that is that he is saying that the fraud occurred when they stopped the counting, period.

08:37:54.180 That's when it occurred. And there's no question that whatever happened to stop the counting happened because Donald Trump had commanding leads in all of these states.

08:38:02.220 Now, if you're right and Donald Trump actually could have lost those states, let's just say that God's counting the votes and we get an actual count for once.

08:38:09.700 Then you OK, so maybe Trump did lose these states, but it's the stopping of the counting.

08:38:14.500 That's the fraud. And it's the stopping of the counting in the same way that you throw a circuit breaker when the market starts to crash.

08:38:21.560 Yeah, because what it does is it is it takes away.

08:38:25.260 It allows Biden to establish the narrative. And I think what Trump did was he established the counter narrative.

08:38:30.540 And I think he did it right up front. And I am tired of our side having to say constantly.

08:38:36.440 I'm with you about the about the about the politicians making these kind of claims.

08:38:41.640 I'm 100 percent with you on that. But there comes a point when you have to say that if you are going to be the victim of a fraud and you don't say I'm a victim of fraud right now, right now, then the story will be set in stone.

08:38:54.800 The sooner he makes that claim, the sooner. And I want him to win, right?

08:39:00.620 I know you want to endorse him. I want him to win. I want all I want him to win.

08:39:04.100 I what I what I don't want is a situation in which either he wins and he has he has preemptively lessened his own victory by doing this or he loses.

08:39:14.100 And then everybody on our side of the aisle who wanted him to win believes without proper evidence that the that the election is false and wrong.

08:39:21.980 By the way, he also happened to just as a matter of PR step on the fact that they retained the Senate and they won additional House seats.

08:39:28.420 Right. Why is he why is he playing except that for Donald Trump?

08:39:33.000 Again, we've talked about his his flaws and his virtues tonight.

08:39:36.400 Right. One of his fundamental flaws is Donald Trump doesn't care if Republicans retain the Senate, if Donald Trump doesn't retain the presidency, he is not wired to think that way.

08:39:45.540 Donald Trump doesn't think he's not a self-sacrificial figure that Donald Trump sees the entire election as as about Donald Trump.

08:39:52.700 That's how Donald Trump sees the world. He sees buildings with his name on it and he sees buildings without his name on it that his name could one day be on.

08:39:58.340 Right. So I think I think what I would say is I don't like the president saying as far as he's concerned, he's won.

08:40:04.380 I think that that's the overstep. I think that I agree with Bill and Michael that to say that a fraud is happening right now when you stop counting the vote in states where he is ahead.

08:40:14.740 I actually do believe that that's a fraud. It's a fraud. It may not be stealing the election, but it is a kind of fraud.

08:40:22.260 It's giving the opportunity for capriciousness. You're throwing the breaker on a collapsing stock market thing is accurate.

08:40:28.040 Something could happen in a collapsing stock market organically to stop the collapse, but they don't they're not giving that thing the opportunity to play out.

08:40:35.500 They're saying stop everything. I have a question. What is like? I'm perfectly willing to say that that may in fact be fraud.

08:40:41.420 I'm not willing to say that that is in and of itself fraud. I mean, what are the what are they doing?

08:40:46.040 Like I need some evidence of what's actually ever happened. Pennsylvania has new laws for this cycle.

08:40:51.800 So they've got the whole let's keep on voting until we get to the top. So put Pennsylvania aside.

08:40:56.640 I agree. That's right. That's a lawsuit there immediately, of course.

08:40:59.680 But the lead he had in those in those other states was a significant lead and it was an ongoing lead.

08:41:05.000 So why did they stop counting? Where have they stopped? Why?

08:41:08.360 Why don't I know? Because every single election that is I've ever seen, certainly in this country,

08:41:12.680 it may take two or three o'clock in the morning until they count the votes, but they keep counting until they get a number.

08:41:17.180 So, number one, why did they stop? And more importantly, I think, is how do they have the power to stop and get away with it?

08:41:24.880 In other words, they were able to throw that circuit breaker on this election and somehow they got away with it.

08:41:32.040 And and and how does that happen? Andrew?

08:41:34.620 Well, I think Ben is speaking in a universe that I recognize as the moral universe.

08:41:39.920 He's saying something that is absolutely right and true.

08:41:42.520 Unfortunately, we're not living in that universe, living in a universe of narrative in which one side controls the narrative completely

08:41:49.500 and has been using that narrative for weeks, if not longer, to set up a system whereby they could steal the election.

08:41:56.760 And Donald Trump's protests would seem to be the moral error.

08:42:01.140 And so Donald Trump, as he always does, because he's tone deaf to it, he doesn't care about it, is ignoring that narrative and setting a narrative of his own.

08:42:09.640 And, you know, I have to say that it's been pretty effective for the last four years.

08:42:14.500 It bothers me, too. It bothers me what he just this is the issue, though, because now it bothers me what he just said.

08:42:20.100 But he's a voice alone. He is a man alone against an incredible machine.

08:42:24.900 Wait, hold on. Hold on. In what world is he a man alone?

08:42:27.180 Oh, wait, wait, hold on. We all spend our lives defending against the lie.

08:42:32.180 Every one of us in this room spends our entire life defending against the lies that they are telling.

08:42:36.160 And you're telling me that there's not one of us who'd be out there screaming with him from the top of the building about voter fraud in Pennsylvania when it is evidenced.

08:42:45.060 I've literally said that he should have said in that speech, if there is evidence of voter fraud, we have lawyers on the ground in every state to make sure that this fraud does not does not do this.

08:42:54.020 But I want to again, I want to see as always. I wish Trump were that guy.

08:42:57.940 I wish he had the way of framing things with that incredible strategy.

08:43:02.020 He doesn't. He he's a hammer, but he's a hammer up against a very big nail.

08:43:07.040 But, you know, they they really have worked this and they have the power to work it.

08:43:11.400 We don't have the power to shape the narrative the way they do yet.

08:43:14.720 And and so he is fighting back against that narrative. Does he do it clumsily?

08:43:18.920 Does he do it arrogantly and wrongly? Yeah.

08:43:21.580 OK, but but you can't discount that narrative.

08:43:23.920 And I listen as a moral as a moral entity.

08:43:25.840 I can't discount that. I'm on his. I want him to fight.

08:43:28.160 I understand that narrative. We all want him to fight back against that narrative.

08:43:30.900 I want him to do it in a way that's not him.

08:43:32.340 I also. Well, no, I also want him to do it in a way that doesn't set the predicate for the next democratic narrative,

08:43:37.020 which is going to be that if there is violence in the cities, they now blame him for the violence.

08:43:39.940 Well, this is this is this is the biggest potential danger to the president tonight is that the left has been setting up.

08:43:46.380 The left has Trump's number right now.

08:43:48.440 They've known for weeks what he would do in this moment.

08:43:51.180 And they started creating. You say he's owning the narrative right now.

08:43:54.920 I'm not saying he's owning the narrative. I'm saying he's fighting the narrative with the narrative.

08:43:57.740 But they they they baited him, I think, into making this statement.

08:44:02.280 This is what he just said is what they are the most prepared for to have said.

08:44:06.020 And that's the danger. I can't. I want to be careful about being factually accurate.

08:44:10.380 I'm not seeing what states have paused the voting.

08:44:13.480 I see some chatter about paused voting.

08:44:15.220 The president definitely implied and implied pause voting.

08:44:19.620 Who has actually paused their voting?

08:44:21.980 Have we seen these states called?

08:44:24.060 Well, we have not. The only state that should not be called sometime tonight is Pennsylvania because of this insane ruling.

08:44:30.520 But every other state, didn't he call for the voting to not be counted yet?

08:44:34.200 Well, he said, keep voting and keep counting the votes in Arizona.

08:44:37.480 But we need to stop what's going on in the blue states, didn't he?

08:44:40.360 No, he said, keep counting. He said, he said, keep counting the votes.

08:44:44.160 He that's not inconsistent.

08:44:45.760 He if you kept counting the votes according to his lead and his trends in Michigan and Pennsylvania and Wisconsin,

08:44:51.700 then he is the next president or he's the president again.

08:44:55.220 I'm not I'm actually not sure if that's true.

08:44:56.880 We have to count the votes. No, but what he's saying, what he's saying is finding votes.

08:45:00.500 He's what he was very explicit about is keep counting votes.

08:45:04.860 Don't keep accepting votes. Right.

08:45:07.000 New vote. There should not be new ballots coming into the system, which I think is actually accurate.

08:45:11.800 I don't think new ballots should be coming into the system.

08:45:13.940 So. So, Ben, I have enormous respect for you.

08:45:16.380 And this is this is a this is a genuinely serious issue.

08:45:19.400 And I don't know the answer to it.

08:45:20.940 But here's what it comes down to for me.

08:45:23.840 When when American Marines first faced the Japanese in Guadalcanal,

08:45:26.960 they fought the more or less fairly the way they fought every other war and the way they fought even with the Wehrmacht in Germany.

08:45:32.040 But when they found out that Japanese would would wave a surrender flag and then they would go and take the surrender and then they'd machine gun these guys down.

08:45:39.140 Or somebody who's calling for a corpsman has a Japanese soldiers got a grenade and and explodes and takes three people out.

08:45:46.320 Then the Marines have to make a decision.

08:45:49.160 And that decision is, do we fight?

08:45:53.680 On their level or do we lose?

08:45:56.080 And and that is the issue.

08:45:58.280 And I don't have a simple answer for that, but there does.

08:46:01.260 But the question is simply this.

08:46:02.620 If you are fighting a dishonorable opponent and you decide that you're going to fight honorably,

08:46:06.960 and that means that by fighting honorably, you lose the cause, then evil takes over.

08:46:12.140 I just don't know what about the statement fights.

08:46:13.800 The cause is my issue, meaning that having lawyers file lawsuits, I'm all for having people there to make sure that the fraud doesn't occur.

08:46:20.580 I'm all for I actually generally agree with this.

08:46:22.580 I think that the president's statement was not on the whole useful.

08:46:26.620 I think that the left baited him into a statement and he gave it to them.

08:46:30.660 I think that he there are aspects of the speech that were very strong.

08:46:33.940 I think there are a few places where he overstepped and played right into the hands of Jack Dorsey.

08:46:40.400 You know, I wouldn't be surprised if over the next few minutes we see for the first time the president actually get suspended from some of these social cart launch from some of these social platforms because he just he just crossed the red line that they've been setting up for him for the last several weeks.

08:46:54.660 But let's put aside some time.

08:46:58.000 Listen, we we often disagree about the president's tone and tenor.

08:47:02.820 Let's actually talk about what's going to happen next.

08:47:05.740 Where is this going?

08:47:06.980 What are we about to see take place?

08:47:08.880 And the big line, by the way, there is not the stuff where he says, I want all voting to stop.

08:47:13.180 I think that we all agree here that the media is going to take that out of context and they're going to use that to suggest that he actually wants people not to have their ballots legally counted.

08:47:19.860 What he means is don't keep counting ballots after they're there if they're legally cast.

08:47:26.320 If they arrive at four o'clock in the morning, then that's past the deadline.

08:47:30.060 I get that.

08:47:31.300 It's the frankly we did win the election.

08:47:33.020 That is the that's the one I didn't like.

08:47:34.840 No, I agree.

08:47:35.500 Well, he said as far as I'm concerned, I mean, that's an important qualifier.

08:47:38.920 It is, you know, but it's an important qualifier.

08:47:40.860 When has Trump ever been responsible in doing this?

08:47:43.060 The only thing that it does always come back, it always comes back to me. 0.83

08:47:47.140 You know, Trump drives me crazy this way. 0.73

08:47:49.200 He does. 0.91

08:47:49.900 He does.

08:47:50.260 He says these things.

08:47:50.940 And I just want to shake him and say, no, that's not the way you put that.

08:47:54.120 But I understand that he is up against this powerful narrative that is set up by corporations so huge with such reach that he is.

08:48:04.420 And by the way, Joe Biden didn't need to say, as far as I'm concerned, we've won the election because the entire establishment that works for Joe Biden is saying it for him and will be saying it for him.

08:48:14.200 And has been saying it for him for weeks.

08:48:15.720 And has already been saying it for him for weeks.

08:48:17.400 And listen, I and again, I get all that.

08:48:19.920 And I also get that Hillary Clinton spent four years claiming that she'd won an election.

08:48:22.880 She lost.

08:48:23.360 And Stacey Abrams is governor of Georgia.

08:48:25.240 Right.

08:48:25.680 So I will say I'm concerned about election respect from the Democrats that I'm not ruling to hear.

08:48:29.600 But I will say that one of the worst things that could happen, and it is a real possibility, is that if Donald Trump loses and if he kind of pulls the Hillary Clinton and spends the next four years questioning the legitimacy of the election.

08:48:44.220 Which will almost certainly do.

08:48:45.280 Then there is no one left who actually believes in the system.

08:48:49.160 Because the left rejects the system.

08:48:50.760 They want to remake the system.

08:48:52.080 They say that the system is fundamentally flawed.

08:48:54.140 If the right can't, if the right doesn't believe in the system anymore, we're at a true crisis in the country.

08:49:00.560 We're going to go to the Daily Wire war room and hear from Alicia Krauss and the gang down there for a moment.

08:49:06.280 Hey guys, we are wrapping up the night.

08:49:11.340 I have been here, I think, for like 12 hours.

08:49:14.060 It's been a lot of fun.

08:49:15.700 And for some final consensus on what's happening on social media, I'm going to toss it over to Cassie Dillon. 0.92

08:49:21.880 So right now on social media, everyone is talking about the speech that Trump just gave.

08:49:26.220 For his ultra supporters, it really energized them.

08:49:29.020 It gave them some confidence.

08:49:30.340 But in his non-supporter group, they're very angry about it.

08:49:34.140 People are taking quotes out of it.

08:49:35.900 They're saying that it was wrong with what happened.

08:49:39.100 Some people are saying that it's wrong, that it'll go to the Supreme Court.

08:49:42.460 One person said this is bad.

08:49:43.880 So there's a lot of different messages coming out around his speech.

08:49:47.480 Seems pretty partisan, which is how most of his speeches go.

08:49:51.040 So we'll see what happens.

08:49:52.500 We're going to have to keep an eye on social media for the next 24 hours, it looks like,

08:49:55.960 to really know what people are thinking about what's going on.

08:49:59.060 So I'm going to toss it back over to you guys to close out the night.

08:50:01.880 All right.

08:50:02.580 And, of course, we have the War Room A-Team.

08:50:06.200 I think we can call ourselves the A-Team.

08:50:08.040 It's been a lot of fun.

08:50:09.500 We've covered a lot of information.

08:50:11.180 We're still waiting on a lot of information to come in.

08:50:13.680 Editor-in-chief of The Daily Wire, Bickley, what happened?

08:50:17.660 Could it have ended any other way by actually not ending?

08:50:20.920 So it's not over.

08:50:22.280 It's still going.

08:50:23.400 There's still results to come in.

08:50:26.540 We look at it.

08:50:27.660 Look, America's going to sleep. 1.00

08:50:30.740 What's the situation?

08:50:32.140 Trump, we said he had to win seven of the 12 battleground states.

08:50:36.220 Looks like he's got five of them.

08:50:38.540 Pennsylvania, he's way ahead, and he's right about that.

08:50:41.760 Can he possibly lose it statistically?

08:50:43.640 Yes, he could lose it.

08:50:45.360 So it is possible both candidates have an argument.

08:50:48.120 Arizona appears like he probably lost it.

08:50:52.240 So we had talked about that with a different scenario.

08:50:54.620 Our second scenario took into account an Arizona loss.

08:50:57.840 Can he win without Arizona?

08:51:00.540 Absolutely, he can win.

08:51:02.500 If he won in Wisconsin, which he's performing still pretty well, again,

08:51:07.160 could he lose when all the count's in?

08:51:09.640 Yes, of course he could.

08:51:11.380 A few hours from now, we're told that more of the count's coming in,

08:51:15.380 and just no one can handle staying up that late.

08:51:18.120 So we'll find out more about Wisconsin.

08:51:19.380 We'll probably wake up tomorrow morning and know a little bit more about Wisconsin.

08:51:22.320 And by tomorrow morning, you mean like in a few minutes?

08:51:24.640 It is tomorrow.

08:51:25.720 I don't even know what time it is.

08:51:27.120 I'm so mixed up on time zones.

08:51:29.940 We also, you know, Pennsylvania, we knew this was going to be a problematic state.

08:51:34.240 We knew both candidates focusing on it big time, and especially with the late count allowed for up to three days.

08:51:43.960 A lot of people are talking about, look, we might not know until Friday.

08:51:47.680 Let's hope that's not the case, but it might be the case.

08:51:50.000 So, look, there's lots to continue to tune in for.

08:51:53.760 There's lots to come.

08:51:55.360 And I think both candidates have made it really clear.

08:51:58.020 They're not giving an inch.

08:51:59.420 Yeah.

08:51:59.800 Neither is going to give an inch.

08:52:01.140 So this is going to go all the way.

08:52:03.260 Every last vote, every last legal argument, that's what's coming in the next few days.

08:52:08.400 And one of the things that we've been talking about throughout the night with you guys and here in the war room is the media narrative of what's happening,

08:52:15.260 the too close to call, or not even calling actual states that Trump-Pence won or even Biden-Harris won.

08:52:22.360 And, Ian, this is something earlier that you spoke about.

08:52:24.900 You thought that maybe 2020 would be a consensus, and we would be able to have a consensus on the media.

08:52:30.500 And is this election a referendum on the media?

08:52:34.500 As of now, where does that sit?

08:52:36.400 Yeah, so really this election is obviously very politically based.

08:52:39.740 It's politics.

08:52:40.680 But a big part of it is also a cultural referendum.

08:52:43.220 And Trump is an entirely cultural figure.

08:52:46.100 And so we've had four years where the media have basically lied to us, like lied to our face, told us not to believe our own lying eyes.

08:52:52.380 They've told us that burning cities are just the result of peaceful protests.

08:52:55.600 It's been time after time after time, but they're clearly just pushing Democrat narratives.

08:52:59.680 This was our chance as conservatives to reject that, to make a very, very clear statement that the media and Biden are not really desired as representatives.

08:53:11.820 The problem with this outcome is it creates a delay.

08:53:15.740 It creates time for the adrenaline, like we're all feeling right now, to fade, and for the media to calm it down and then just redirect the narrative to really whatever it needs to be.

08:53:24.300 Like, this needed to be definitive to be a definitive indictment of their behavior.

08:53:30.260 And the lack of definition is really going to, I think, make that easy for them.

08:53:33.940 They're going to get away with it is my real concern.

08:53:36.280 Okay.

08:53:36.560 And then speaking of that narrative, what are you walking away with tonight, Cabot?

08:53:40.160 I mean, we also didn't see the blue wave.

08:53:42.080 We've been talking all night long about these polls that had Biden and Harris up a couple digits.

08:53:48.080 It's not quite double digits, but pretty significant beyond the margin of error, ended up being wrong.

08:53:54.320 And things aren't so, so bad for the GOP in the House and the Senate.

08:53:58.840 Yeah.

08:53:59.300 Well, there's not a lot of certainty right now in the presidential race, but there is certainty in one thing, and that's the narrative of a blue wave did not happen.

08:54:06.800 We were assured from President Trump's first day in office there will be a huge blowback.

08:54:12.120 The American people, once they have a chance to go back, they'll show that this was a terrible mistake they made.

08:54:15.960 That simply did not happen, and the clearest evidence of that beyond how close the presidential race is is the Senate.

08:54:22.140 The Republicans are looking like they're going to end when all is said and done.

08:54:25.360 Once we've got runoff elections in Georgia, that's going to be done in January.

08:54:28.120 But when all is said and done, we're probably looking at a 52 majority for Republicans in the Senate.

08:54:33.080 The big takeaway there, if Joe Biden does win and if court packing becomes a serious policy proposition,

08:54:41.500 it's going to be very difficult to get that done with the Senate now in Republican control.

08:54:44.980 That's something that if people are still uneasy, conservatives, uneasy about what's happened with Trump,

08:54:49.060 they can go to bed knowing that they've got Mitch McConnell standing guard, if you will, on his –

08:54:54.780 I was going to make a cocaine Mitch joke.

08:54:56.660 I'm not going to make that.

08:54:57.500 It's late in the night.

08:54:58.280 I've got so many jokes in my head.

08:54:59.840 But I think that's the main takeaway.

08:55:01.220 And the second takeaway Ian brought up is just the way that the media – this is a repudiation of the media.

08:55:05.620 This is people seeing, wait a second, I have been lied to.

08:55:08.460 I've been misled.

08:55:09.100 But for all the Democrat talk of defund the police, defund the media.

08:55:13.340 For the American people at home who are mad about what the media has been preaching them, you get the media you pay for.

08:55:19.380 People are paying for that media.

08:55:20.860 That's why the whole night I've been thinking, come to the Daily Wire.

08:55:24.300 We're not going to push you through all of that.

08:55:26.320 Defund the media.

08:55:27.340 Come join our team.

08:55:28.140 That's where it's at right here.

08:55:29.120 Awesome.

08:55:29.440 It's a shameless pitch, but I've been thinking it all night.

08:55:32.580 It keeps us paid.

08:55:33.860 Mama needs to get paid. 1.00

08:55:35.000 That is why I'm here.

08:55:37.620 Cabot, Ian, Bickley, it's been a lot of work, a lot of fun, and a total honor.

08:55:43.400 Guys, tossing it back to you, and we are saying goodnight from the war room.

08:55:48.220 Alicia, thank you for the good work tonight.

08:55:49.860 Thanks to everybody in the social media war room and in the writing and data war room.

08:55:54.040 Thank you to Cassie Dillon for her great work tonight.

08:55:56.360 Thank you to you and to Cabot for your terrific pregame show, which went on for three hours this afternoon

08:56:01.480 and I think brought our Daily Wire members a lot of great information.

08:56:04.080 It's been an unbelievable night, fellas.

08:56:07.440 In four minutes, they're going to close.

08:56:09.720 I believe they're supposed to have – what has it been?

08:56:13.500 They're supposed to have –

08:56:13.960 170,000 absentee ballots in Michigan.

08:56:16.220 That's right.

08:56:16.740 I mean in Wisconsin.

08:56:17.860 In Wisconsin.

08:56:18.460 If those come in and they do not break heavily for Biden, then Trump's in pretty good shape in Wisconsin.

08:56:25.580 Right now he leads by about 100,000 votes in Wisconsin or 9,000 votes in Wisconsin.

08:56:29.660 They're still waiting for some reporting in from Madison and from Milwaukee, but it is

08:56:33.640 way too close for Democrats to feel any sense of comfort in Wisconsin.

08:56:38.240 Ben, what is your take?

08:56:39.280 Wisconsin is a more liberal state than Pennsylvania.

08:56:42.680 So should this – does this –

08:56:43.660 I mean that goes well obviously for him in Wisconsin.

08:56:46.060 If Wisconsin – if he's able to maintain Wisconsin, then suddenly he becomes the favorite again.

08:56:50.760 Right?

08:56:51.080 If he maintains Wisconsin, assuming he maintains Georgia, which again is going to be extremely,

08:56:54.900 extremely close, then he becomes the favorite again in the election after having lost Arizona.

08:56:59.840 And that has now been confirmed by several different outlets as having gone –

08:57:03.200 It's actually, I have to say, surprising to me for the president to lose Arizona.

08:57:06.640 Arizona, I've spent some time in Arizona even during COVID, and it's – it seems like

08:57:11.580 just classic Trump territory.

08:57:13.900 I mean, Jeff Flake, Cindy McCain, is that the difference?

08:57:17.160 Is that what's happened down there?

08:57:17.960 I think that he really ticked off a lot of people.

08:57:20.320 The suburban area around Phoenix really cut against him.

08:57:22.960 And you saw this in the Kristen Sinema election, right?

08:57:25.920 She should have lost that election. 0.94

08:57:26.920 I mean she had – she's a radical in her younger days.

08:57:29.520 She had the bevy of material for doing kind of crazy things. 0.74

08:57:32.340 And she ended up winning that election fairly narrowly.

08:57:35.660 They've lost both Senate seats in the course of the last four years.

08:57:38.200 So that is a state that seems to be trending more in the purple direction or the blue direction,

08:57:41.560 even while Florida seems to be trending more red.

08:57:43.840 Ohio seems to be trending more red.

08:57:45.620 The question in Pennsylvania and Wisconsin is were those outliers last time

08:57:48.560 or were those things that are trending red?

08:57:50.780 Overall, this is a much, much, much better night for Republicans

08:57:53.900 than I think anybody had a right to expect based on the bad polling data going in.

08:57:57.840 I mean the fact is that the Republicans are going to maintain a Senate majority.

08:58:01.080 That is a big win.

08:58:01.860 And a lot of that has to do with the coattails of President Trump in some of these states.

08:58:06.120 I mean the fact is that Trump winning North Carolina probably pushes Tom Tillis,

08:58:09.900 who outperformed Trump by a couple of points, over the finish line.

08:58:13.480 The fact is that Trump's intervention in some of the states like Iowa,

08:58:18.460 like his late-breaking surge in Iowa, definitely helped Joni Ernst in Iowa.

08:58:23.200 But Susan Collins wildly outperformed in Maine.

08:58:25.860 So her maintaining that seat was really big.

08:58:27.460 Danes outperforms in Montana.

08:58:28.520 The Senate race has mattered an awful lot.

08:58:31.020 In the presidential race, Florida, the early expectation by the polls

08:58:34.860 is that he was going to lose Florida.

08:58:35.940 He wins Florida walking away.

08:58:37.560 He wins Ohio walking away.

08:58:39.800 Georgia, too close for comfort.

08:58:41.800 North Carolina, closer than it should be.

08:58:43.660 But we're still finding out what exactly is going on.

08:58:46.540 As far as his sort of final speech here, bottom line is this.

08:58:50.060 Like virtually everything else Trump says, it's going to get litigated in court.

08:58:52.720 And all of the talk about whether he won or whether he lost is going to move by the wayside,

08:58:58.340 like much else that he says, I think it'll end up being, I think, more like a tempest in a teapot

08:59:02.840 than anything else when it's all said and done.

08:59:06.480 But the election isn't over.

08:59:08.760 And if somebody tells you the election is over at this point,

08:59:11.140 that is because they're not being completely honest with you.

08:59:12.940 The fact is that until these big numbers come in, Philadelphia has not been counted in Pennsylvania.

08:59:18.560 That's going to make a rather large difference, even though Trump has a 700,000-vote advantage.

08:59:22.300 Have they not counted anything from Pennsylvania or from Philadelphia?

08:59:25.040 They count like half of Philadelphia, a quarter of Philadelphia, something like that.

08:59:28.800 So where you are in the state obviously makes a big difference as to what's coming in.

08:59:33.400 It's not as though everything is equally proportioned, and so 60% is the same as 100%, right?

08:59:37.700 Right.

08:59:38.020 It all depends on where it's coming in.

08:59:39.800 For the first time since 2000, Americans are going to go to bed on election night

08:59:43.880 not knowing who has actually won the presidency.

08:59:48.400 No matter how you slice it, that is bad for our republic.

08:59:52.340 That is bad for people's faith in our institutions, bad for people's faith in our system of government.

08:59:58.140 And anytime people have questions, anytime you have a bad night for our system of government,

09:00:02.240 it's a good night for the left.

09:00:03.700 So the problem that I see is at this point, even if the president does secure his reelection

09:00:08.900 over the next hours or days or weeks, we have lost something important tonight

09:00:14.200 to the narrative, to the left, to the way that people perceive it.

09:00:17.880 I mean, I think a clean win was on the table for Trump here, right?

09:00:20.940 He had the lawyers ready to go.

09:00:22.800 So, I mean, he could have just said, listen, he could have said exactly word for word what Biden said,

09:00:27.080 and then he could have walked away.

09:00:28.940 And then when the evidence, I mean, he's the president.

09:00:31.580 He can call a presser any time he wants, right?

09:00:34.240 I mean, if he says, I'm speaking right now, all the cameras show up.

09:00:36.480 He's the president.

09:00:36.900 So he could easily have done this tomorrow if there was actual evidence of voter fraud pouring in

09:00:42.660 or Philadelphia started taking, you know, false votes that were not postmarked or something like that.

09:00:47.700 And there will be lawsuits in Pennsylvania, and there probably should be lawsuits in Pennsylvania 0.98

09:00:50.420 because their voting standards are garbage.

09:00:51.920 As far as sort of the vote count pause and all of that, and, you know, does that create potential for fraud? 0.97

09:00:57.480 What I've seen is Allegheny County in Pennsylvania, which is Pittsburgh,

09:01:00.500 they paused the vote count because I guess they said they were short on staff.

09:01:04.320 In Milwaukee, they didn't actually pause the vote count.

09:01:07.300 They didn't know there was an election on tonight.

09:01:09.240 In Milwaukee, they didn't actually pause the vote count.

09:01:11.940 They just decided they're going to release all vote totals from Milwaukee and the absentees at the same time.

09:01:17.040 So they just weren't going to give a continuous update.

09:01:19.060 They were just going to release it as a bulk, which, honestly, since I'm not a local election official,

09:01:23.460 I don't know how that is supposed to work, to be completely honest with you.

09:01:26.560 Right. If there's something illegal there, there are many, many, many, many, many lawyers on the ground.

09:01:31.220 Tim Alberta from Washington Post says Wisconsin is going to be very, very tight.

09:01:34.800 Bulk of outstanding ballots coming from Milwaukee County.

09:01:37.120 Clinton won it by 162,000. Biden currently ahead by 53,000.

09:01:40.500 Trump is currently ahead by 110,000.

09:01:42.820 If Biden picks up enough to reach parity with Clinton in 16, they are virtually tied.

09:01:46.400 So, wow, everything much too close for comfort, obviously.

09:01:51.300 Yeah, I do think, you know, what what Trump was doing and we can I think we all feel a little squeamish, at least, about what he did.

09:01:59.160 But what he is doing is setting his own narrative.

09:02:02.480 And it is my contention that the left was going to accuse him, whatever they were going to accuse him of.

09:02:07.580 And whether he takes the bait or he doesn't take the bait, they were going to push their narrative tomorrow that that Biden Biden had won.

09:02:14.760 And Trump decided to to jump on top of that and preempt it.

09:02:18.540 You know, we said we weren't going to make predictions and we really didn't make predictions.

09:02:22.460 I had a very little bit of money on the election, but I made it a little bit of money because I didn't want to make a big prediction.

09:02:27.660 The one election prediction I made is that this would happen.

09:02:30.980 The one election prediction I made is that this would go to court.

09:02:33.920 And the president has already promised us that it's the old story.

09:02:37.720 You know, we wouldn't have gotten this far if you weren't Trump and we wouldn't be sitting here.

09:02:42.060 Yes. Uncomfortable if you weren't Trump.

09:02:43.720 I mean, it's always it's always the same thing with Trump.

09:02:45.880 He comes with his his virtues and his flaws in the same package.

09:02:49.740 Yeah. As do we all.

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The Michael Knowles Show - November 04, 2020

Presidential Election 2020 LIVE ｜ Full Coverage

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