The Michael Knowles Show - Racism & Liberals： YES or NO with Dr. Ben Carson

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00:00:37.680 We don't know how the brain works.

00:00:39.200 We haven't mapped the whole thing.

00:00:40.420 Take your index finger and touch that card right there.

00:00:44.580 Now, I know what it took for you to do that.

00:00:47.060 The sound weights had to leave my lips, travel to the air,

00:00:49.200 and in your extra and all-outrements, travel down to your tympanic membrane,

00:00:52.320 set up a vibratory force,

00:00:53.520 travel across the oscals of the middle ear to the ovum round with a seventh vibratory force,

00:00:57.880 distorted the microcilia, converting mechanical energy to electrical energy,

00:01:01.680 travel across the cochlear nerve to the cochlear nucleus at the pontomedullary junction

00:01:05.620 from there to the superior olivary nucleus,

00:01:07.740 coming down the cortical spinal tract, across the internal capsule,

00:01:10.820 into the cerebral pedoconies,

00:01:12.360 extending down to the cervical medullary decussation,

00:01:14.420 into the sporadic or gray matter synapses in there,

00:01:16.560 stimulating the nerve and the muscle so you could point to that card.

00:01:19.780 You took the words right out of my mouth.

00:01:21.020 There are not many things that could get me to drink a martini at 10 o'clock in the morning.

00:01:42.060 11 o'clock is a different story.

00:01:43.960 But I am so very excited to play this game at any time that my guest today has free.

00:01:53.440 He is the leader of the American Cornerstone Institute.

00:01:57.480 He is the former head of pediatric neurosurgery at Johns Hopkins.

00:02:03.420 He is, I believe, the first man ever to successfully separate conjoined twins at the head.

00:02:08.260 He's also the former secretary of housing and urban development.

00:02:12.280 He's also a former presidential candidate.

00:02:14.480 He's also written, I think, a bazillion books and academic publications.

00:02:18.320 He's also the winner of the Presidential Medal of Freedom.

00:02:21.120 I probably could go on listing this man's accomplishments for the rest of the show.

00:02:25.720 70 honorary doctorates by my last count.

00:02:28.380 In any case, I'll leave it there.

00:02:30.280 Dr. Ben Carson, thank you for playing the yes or no game.

00:02:34.340 I've been looking forward to it.

00:02:35.640 It should be fun.

00:02:36.280 I have to tell you, I was a little bit nervous when I heard that you were eager to play and

00:02:42.240 you had ordered a frosty glass of root beer because you don't drink alcohol.

00:02:46.900 I said, this is one of the most serious and accomplished men in the United States. 1.00

00:02:52.720 How can I have him on my stupid drinking show to play this game? 0.97

00:02:56.320 But I appreciate your willingness to come on. 1.00

00:02:59.220 Well, as long as I'm drinking root beer, it's fine.

00:03:00.960 So, have you heard the rules at all of this game?

00:03:06.480 I wouldn't mind if you went over them again.

00:03:09.380 Diplomatically.

00:03:10.440 I'm not sure that I totally understand them.

00:03:12.940 I will read a prompt.

00:03:14.120 You will move my glass to how you think I would answer the question.

00:03:18.800 I will move your frosty glass of root beer to how I think you would answer the question.

00:03:22.360 Okay.

00:03:22.620 And then we'll switch and you read the prompt and we'll play from there on.

00:03:26.400 And the winner gets a brand new car.

00:03:28.480 That's right.

00:03:29.420 We got to check in with Jeremy about that.

00:03:31.200 Do we have any new cars?

00:03:32.520 Maybe his McLaren.

00:03:33.760 Okay.

00:03:34.080 Without further ado, usually, if there's a woman on the show, I'll say ladies first. 1.00

00:03:37.600 But since you are very much a man, despite our cultural confusion these days, I will go first.

00:03:42.160 With the exponential growth of artificial intelligence, it is likely that tasks such as driving, coding, and even surgery will be handled by robotics and AI in the next 20 years.

00:03:57.340 That's pretty easy.

00:04:01.460 Clear enough to me.

00:04:02.640 Well, you know, that's an area that's going to really blossom.

00:04:07.420 Something that we have to be very careful about, though, because although it can be used for a lot of good things, you know we always have a tendency to pervert the use of good things and use them for bad areas.

00:04:21.140 And particularly when I look at something like education, combination of virtual reality and AI means that when a kid is studying,

00:04:32.640 the Peloponnesian War, he can be right there, seeing what's going on.

00:04:38.240 But by the same token, they can create their own world.

00:04:43.060 And it's hard enough to get kids away from the Nintendo and the Playstations.

00:04:47.600 I mean, how are you going to get them out of that artificial world?

00:04:50.740 When it's totally immersive.

00:04:52.280 And then all of a sudden, the Peloponnesian War might not look quite like Thucydides said it looked.

00:04:58.360 Although you will probably remember because you were there.

00:05:04.400 You're right.

00:05:06.280 And I'm not sure.

00:05:08.640 There's a movie about you, right?

00:05:10.520 Gifted Hands with Cuba Gooding Jr.

00:05:14.200 Will a robot ever be, will a robot ever match the ability of an excellent surgeon to perform surgery?

00:05:22.600 Maybe of a mediocre.

00:05:24.540 You think a robot will?

00:05:26.060 It will.

00:05:26.480 No, absolutely.

00:05:27.680 It'll go beyond the best surgeon because it's so precise and it is able to take into consideration so many different things.

00:05:37.700 But right now, go with the good surgeon.

00:05:42.020 All right.

00:05:42.760 Then I won't have a sip of my martini.

00:05:44.880 Neither of us got it wrong.

00:05:46.460 Sometimes, though, I say if we get it wrong, we have to drink.

00:05:49.200 But we get a sip anyway.

00:05:50.260 That's right.

00:05:51.100 You get it right, you get to drink.

00:05:53.160 You're up.

00:05:53.680 That is a good loop here.

00:05:58.280 Okay.

00:06:00.220 The Department of Transportation would be in better shape if Pete Buttigieg spent the rest of 2024 on maternity leave. 1.00

00:06:09.700 We will get into that question in just one second.

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00:06:38.600 Now, back into the question.

00:06:40.420 Indeed.

00:06:41.560 You thought that last question was easy.

00:06:43.640 Frankly, I think this one is easy enough.

00:06:46.460 I think that's pretty easy.

00:06:48.360 Yeah.

00:06:48.560 But, you know, there's so much that could be done in the Department of Transportation.

00:06:54.240 Have you ever thought about, for instance, you come to a stop at a red light.

00:06:59.800 There's nothing going in either direction, and yet you're sitting there for two minutes.

00:07:04.980 Yes.

00:07:05.660 That makes no sense.

00:07:06.720 Dr. Carson, thank you for saying that.

00:07:08.880 I had this argument with a buddy of mine a couple years ago.

00:07:11.460 I said, I had been driving at night.

00:07:13.440 No one was around.

00:07:14.240 I said, I should be able to break the law.

00:07:16.960 And he argued, he was a real stickler.

00:07:19.080 He said, I said, it is absurd.

00:07:21.680 It's humiliating that I have to wait for two minutes at midnight when there's a red light.

00:07:26.360 Plus, you're wasting gas.

00:07:27.840 That's true.

00:07:28.600 It's bad for the environment.

00:07:30.380 But, you know, in Brazil, that's not true.

00:07:32.560 After midnight, if you come to a light and there's nobody in either direction you can go through,

00:07:38.920 and it's not illegal.

00:07:40.720 But, you know, we have those sensors on the ground.

00:07:44.480 Why wouldn't we place those particularly at busy intersections?

00:07:47.780 Right.

00:07:48.480 So that if there's nothing coming, you know, the light stays green in your direction.

00:07:52.680 That would be a simple thing.

00:07:54.380 It would pay for itself in the amount of fuel that is not wasted.

00:07:58.740 But, you know, those are the things that the Department of Transportation ought to be thinking about.

00:08:04.060 Instead, they're focused on the racist bridges in Long Island.

00:08:07.080 Exactly.

00:08:07.680 Yeah.

00:08:08.520 All right.

00:08:09.840 Unlike Michael Knowles, Dr. Carson is not a failed actor.

00:08:13.080 Who wrote these questions?

00:08:15.440 We need to have some personnel conversations after this.

00:08:18.540 I've read a fair bit of your biography.

00:08:24.840 I don't think I saw any Broadway or soft shoe on there, so I'm going to say...

00:08:30.140 I actually have played in a movie.

00:08:40.560 There's a movie called Stuck On You.

00:08:43.900 Matt Damon and Greg Kinnear, they were...

00:08:46.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:08:47.040 And I played the doctor who separates me.

00:08:51.020 Did you really?

00:08:51.760 I did.

00:08:52.680 I remember the movie.

00:08:54.020 I mean, I haven't seen it in forever.

00:08:56.660 It was actually a lot of fun.

00:08:58.860 I guess the difference, though, the reason why I think the answers are still right is, you know, my biggest movies I was ever in...

00:09:06.560 Well, recently I was in one called Lady Ballers, which is a transvestite comedy.

00:09:10.180 And the other one was Holly Weird is probably the biggest movie.

00:09:13.840 And it didn't win Oscars.

00:09:15.220 I quite like the movie.

00:09:16.100 But, you know, you're doing movies with Matt Damon and Greg Kinnear.

00:09:19.520 So I guess you would have to say you're actually a rather successful actor.

00:09:22.540 Well, Matt Damon said to me, he said, I'll teach you how to act if you teach me brain surgery.

00:09:28.560 But it was fun.

00:09:33.460 And there was one scene with, what was the woman's name?

00:09:39.420 Eva Mendez.

00:09:40.380 Oh, this little sort of unknown actress.

00:09:45.760 And, you know, they had to do several takes of it.

00:09:49.020 And she had to push me because of something that I said.

00:09:53.960 And she just kept pushing me and pushing me. 1.00

00:09:57.480 And my wife was getting upset with her. 1.00

00:10:01.380 I guess it's better, though.

00:10:02.860 Your wife must have been happier that it was Eva Mendez pushing you instead of Eva Mendez, you know, kissing you or something. 1.00

00:10:08.460 That would have caused more problems. 0.81

00:10:09.900 Exactly.

00:10:10.580 Wow.

00:10:11.320 And then that wasn't the last thing.

00:10:13.920 I also did an Alfred Hitchcock and the Gifted Hands movie, the autobiographic movie.

00:10:21.720 Where did you appear?

00:10:23.680 Actually, Candy and I appeared in a scene.

00:10:26.060 We were walking by reading a chart while Cuba Gooding was scrubbing his hands.

00:10:32.440 I'll have to watch with hawk eyes next time.

00:10:36.260 That's right.

00:10:37.320 Wow.

00:10:37.600 You know, it sounds like I'm flattering you.

00:10:41.440 I really don't intend to.

00:10:42.860 But you've got a long list of accomplishments in a lot of different fields.

00:10:46.000 I didn't realize.

00:10:46.780 I thought the one thing I might have on you is that I've been in movies.

00:10:49.800 That's gone.

00:10:50.740 That's out, too.

00:10:51.700 Okay.

00:10:52.460 You're up.

00:10:52.900 All right.

00:10:53.520 All right.

00:10:55.560 In the long term, DEI is more dangerous for the country than another Joe Biden presidency.

00:11:04.160 I guess I'm going to say no.

00:11:17.140 You're right.

00:11:17.840 I agree.

00:11:18.800 It is wrong.

00:11:19.820 They're both very dangerous.

00:11:21.420 There's no question about that.

00:11:22.720 But I'm not sure the country could survive another Joe Biden presidency.

00:11:28.100 Yeah.

00:11:28.680 The direction that we're going in so quickly and so destructively.

00:11:33.500 Having said that, DEI is antithetical to all the things that we worked for and so many

00:11:41.060 people gave their lives for during the civil rights movement.

00:11:46.480 And now we're trying to say, you know, this is more important. 0.96

00:11:51.400 You know, and I'll tell you how silly it is.

00:11:55.200 Last month, the Glass-Lewis people recommended against me on one of the boards I sit on because

00:12:03.900 I'm the chairman of the nominating governance committee.

00:12:07.820 And we only had 25% women. 1.00

00:12:11.060 So, but think about how silly this is. 0.86

00:12:17.860 So, they get rid of me.

00:12:20.240 Now they've got a diversity problem.

00:12:23.320 They clearly didn't think even one step ahead here. 0.99

00:12:27.340 It's so ridiculous. 0.95

00:12:29.160 There's also the fact that DEI, it's annoying, it's bad, it's quite dangerous. 0.96

00:12:36.080 But it's just a persistent liberal impulse that keeps cropping up over the ages.

00:12:41.060 Whereas when we're talking about another Biden presidency, we're talking about pretty concrete

00:12:44.740 political power to actually instantiate all of these kind of policies.

00:12:49.580 It's not, you know, it's even kind of difficult to separate the two as far as I can tell.

00:12:54.400 It's just one is this annoying ideology that pervades a lot of corporate America.

00:12:58.440 The other is the power to implement it at a much larger scale.

00:13:02.160 Well, to understand the Biden administration and their things that they advocate, just read

00:13:10.980 the book by Saul Alinsky, Rules for Radicals.

00:13:15.280 So, you'll see it very clearly denunciated in terms of what they're doing.

00:13:21.500 And unfortunately, this is a long-term plan.

00:13:26.400 This didn't start with Joe Biden.

00:13:28.940 If you go back and you read the congressional record for January the 10th, 1963, Congressman

00:13:37.240 Herlong of Florida read into the record the 45 goals of communism in America.

00:13:42.840 So, a lot of the stuff that's going on right now, gaining control of the school systems,

00:13:48.620 indoctrinating the kids, gaining control of the media, spoon-feeding the people which

00:13:52.820 want them to know, making sexual perversion normal, natural, and healthy.

00:13:58.880 I mean, the list goes on and on, driving wedges between parents and children.

00:14:03.860 And it's really the reason that Khrushchev, more than 60 years ago, said to Eisenhower,

00:14:11.780 your grandchildren's grandchildren will live under our system.

00:14:17.140 Right.

00:14:17.880 Right.

00:14:18.220 And they had a long-term plan there.

00:14:21.900 And we, the American people, are going to have to be smart enough to understand that

00:14:25.680 we're being played.

00:14:27.160 We're being manipulated.

00:14:28.480 It's amazing how many of those points you mention focus on the destruction of the family,

00:14:33.980 which is the subject of your new book, The Perilous Fight, Overcoming Our Culture's War

00:14:38.060 on the American Family.

00:14:39.020 It seems so obvious to me, though, that, you know, there are different levels of politics.

00:14:45.300 There's the national government, the state government.

00:14:47.340 But the fundamental unit of politics, it's not the individual.

00:14:51.480 Politics means more than one person.

00:14:52.900 The fundamental unit is the family.

00:14:54.860 So, if you want to really gut a political system, that's where you've got to focus your

00:14:58.900 attention.

00:14:59.460 And they have.

00:15:00.100 Right.

00:15:00.360 Well, that's the fundamental building block.

00:15:02.640 The family to the community, to the state, to the nation.

00:15:07.240 And if you can destroy that, which they have done a very good job of, they've been working

00:15:12.460 on this for a long time.

00:15:13.740 First of all, denigrating the role of fathers in the family.

00:15:18.760 And then distorting the role of mothers. 1.00

00:15:24.240 And then, you know, taking the opinion of children who are immature and elevating that to

00:15:32.780 the same level of someone who has a mature brain.

00:15:37.040 It's really just masterful what they've done.

00:15:41.580 I have to give them credit.

00:15:43.160 Those who are trying to fundamentally change their country, they know what they're doing.

00:15:48.400 Right.

00:15:48.780 They've been pretty successful.

00:15:49.960 They've been very successful.

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00:16:58.420 Now it's my turn, I think.

00:17:01.220 I think?

00:17:01.860 Okay.

00:17:02.080 Due to his sedentary millennial lifestyle and cigar addiction, Michael Knowles is less

00:17:14.040 healthy in his 30s than Dr. Carson is in his 70s.

00:17:18.160 Are you in your 70s?

00:17:19.460 Yes, 72.

00:17:21.200 All right.

00:17:21.600 Unfortunately, I think we know my answer to that, too.

00:17:23.660 I don't want to do that to you.

00:17:30.640 Yeah.

00:17:31.000 Well, but if we were being honest, it would be a sin to lie.

00:17:34.540 Uh-huh.

00:17:35.840 Yeah.

00:17:36.360 Your medical perspective.

00:17:37.560 So I'm somewhat allergic to exercise.

00:17:40.460 I'm not...

00:17:40.920 I don't do all of the terrible things for your health.

00:17:45.580 You know, I don't smoke cigarettes.

00:17:47.060 That's good.

00:17:47.420 That's good.

00:17:47.860 I don't...

00:17:48.340 But you'd smoke cigars.

00:17:49.440 I do like cigars.

00:17:50.560 Yeah.

00:17:50.800 I do.

00:17:51.460 On a case...

00:17:52.100 You know, one a day.

00:17:52.800 Okay.

00:17:53.240 At top.

00:17:53.440 Maybe two.

00:17:54.260 Tops.

00:17:54.980 I don't exercise, but I've been told that exercise, look, you run too much, it hurts

00:18:00.980 your knees, you know, you don't want to peak too soon, is what I'm saying.

00:18:04.780 Well, you've got to die of something, right? 0.95

00:18:06.300 You've got to die of something.

00:18:08.280 No one here gets that alive.

00:18:10.620 But what I used to always say, and I still say it, if everybody ate three well-balanced meals

00:18:18.100 a day, drank six to eight glasses of water, exercised regularly, got regular sleep, and

00:18:26.460 didn't put harmful substances in their body, most of us in medicine would be out of business.

00:18:33.440 Having said that, medicine is a great career.

00:18:38.940 So, you know, in a way, really, I'm just helping the industry.

00:18:43.020 I do check off one of those boxes, though.

00:18:47.040 It's that I eat great meals every day, because while I am irresponsible and unhealthy, my

00:18:53.140 wife is very responsible and healthy.

00:18:55.060 She makes sure, she can't make me exercise, she can't throw out my cigars. 1.00

00:18:58.920 I guess she could, but I would burst into tears.

00:19:01.340 She can't, you know, do all these other things. 0.52

00:19:04.160 But at least I'm eating well.

00:19:06.160 Well, the good thing is, you have a wife.

00:19:08.740 I found someone to care for me.

00:19:15.380 And that's not a trite statement, because a lot of people aren't getting married these

00:19:20.880 days.

00:19:21.160 Have you noticed that?

00:19:21.940 It's very distressing.

00:19:24.100 And if you don't get married, and you don't procreate, what happens to your population over

00:19:30.360 the course of time?

00:19:31.980 It literally kills your country.

00:19:33.780 The country actually dies.

00:19:35.560 It's odd, too, because I believe in marriage as a theological and philosophical matter,

00:19:43.660 but just also as a practical matter.

00:19:45.740 I focus on my job a lot.

00:19:48.120 You obviously have focused on your career quite a lot.

00:19:51.300 I feel that marriage has only helped my career, my professional life.

00:19:56.420 And even beyond that, I don't know what my life would even be like or mean without my

00:20:05.200 marriage.

00:20:05.680 It's almost, even though I haven't been married that long, it's unthinkable to even view my

00:20:10.020 own life absent my marriage.

00:20:12.840 Well, I will just confirm that for you, having been married for 49 years.

00:20:17.460 I can't even imagine life without my wife.

00:20:23.180 I can't do it.

00:20:24.160 She's been such a powerful force.

00:20:29.740 And we couldn't have raised our children the way that we did without her.

00:20:35.340 And, you know, she has a degree from Yale, a degree from Johns Hopkins.

00:20:40.320 What makes it even more impressive, Dr. Carson?

00:20:42.600 Because, you know, you're a Yalie, too.

00:20:44.520 I guess we're the three conservatives that ever came out of that place.

00:20:47.900 But from the same residential college, too, actually.

00:20:50.400 The same kind of dorm there.

00:20:51.840 But I thought you managed to find this great wife early in your life.

00:20:56.340 You've had this wonderful marriage and family with her.

00:20:58.900 But truly, if you think it's rare to find a man at Yale who is conservative, kind of normal,

00:21:05.280 grounded, when it comes to the women, I have a few friends from there. 1.00

00:21:09.140 I don't mean to besmirch.

00:21:11.420 Quite rare.

00:21:12.980 Quite rare.

00:21:13.380 A conservative woman.

00:21:15.160 A conservative, grounded, sane woman.

00:21:17.120 It's not the norm.

00:21:18.640 That would be very unusual.

00:21:20.940 And you just keep hitting the lotto.

00:21:24.120 But you know what?

00:21:25.500 I think we're going to see more of them.

00:21:28.880 Because, you know, they say it's always darkest before the dawn.

00:21:33.400 And sometimes it has to be pretty dark before people see the light.

00:21:36.460 That's true.

00:21:36.880 But it's pretty dark now.

00:21:38.660 And I think a lot of people are actually waking up and seeing the light.

00:21:42.240 And that's why you're seeing the migration, particularly in the African-American community, toward more conservative views.

00:21:51.700 Because they've always been more conservative.

00:21:54.240 But they were sold the line that, you know, one particular party was completely in their favor and the other one was not. 0.99

00:22:03.040 And, you know, it was said for a long time that the Republicans were racist, horrible people. 0.87

00:22:08.240 And growing up as a Democrat myself, I did the wrong thing from the Democratic point of view. 0.96

00:22:17.540 I listened to a Republican.

00:22:19.920 I listened to Ronald Reagan.

00:22:21.380 And I said, he doesn't sound like a horrible racist person.

00:22:26.220 In fact, he sounds just like my mother.

00:22:30.440 And I began to start reevaluating and looking at things for myself at that point.

00:22:37.040 That irritates a lot of people when you do that.

00:22:40.340 All right. 0.61

00:22:44.000 After listening to Sam Harris, there is a greater than 50% chance Trump derangement syndrome is a legitimate neurological disease.

00:23:00.300 I've got to speak now for an expert.

00:23:02.360 Well, you've got to, the word legitimate changes the answer.

00:23:08.920 It is a disease.

00:23:12.900 You gave me a little bit of a hint there.

00:23:15.420 I would have been inclined to say yes.

00:23:17.940 But it's illegitimate in that it's not right.

00:23:23.640 Right.

00:23:23.920 And it's not a real disease.

00:23:26.980 It's psychosomatic.

00:23:28.280 But it shows you what can happen to a person when they're hearing certain things time and time again.

00:23:36.540 And how it can actually affect the way that they think.

00:23:42.520 Would you say it's, to me, another key word there is neurological.

00:23:46.620 So it might, if you actually looked in the brain, it might be difficult to identify the little orange man who was driving.

00:23:51.740 But there would seem to be some psychological afflictions that go along with this.

00:23:56.800 Yeah, so I could see it as a psychological disease, a legitimate psychological disease.

00:24:03.420 And that's basically what it is.

00:24:05.440 Right.

00:24:06.400 But we're all sort of products of our environment.

00:24:10.760 And what we hear and what we decide that we're going to accept and what we hear.

00:24:15.880 And that's why it's so important, particularly in our school systems, to make sure that we're not giving children a bunch of propaganda.

00:24:26.420 Yeah.

00:24:27.100 Because the human brain continues to develop until your mid-20s, mid to late 20s.

00:24:34.800 And so when you take an 8-year-old, 9-year-old, 10-year-old, and you start feeding them all kinds of propaganda, recognize that children are very curious and very suggestible.

00:24:50.260 So you're not doing them any favors by feeding them these kinds of materials.

00:24:57.080 Right.

00:24:57.320 And it's really, as far as I'm concerned, child abuse.

00:25:01.280 When you're telling little boys, you may not be a little boy, you may actually be a little girl.

00:25:07.400 And, of course, they're hearing that all the time.

00:25:10.640 And, in fact, if they accept that, then they get to be a victim, which is like a bunch of gold stars.

00:25:20.180 Right.

00:25:21.180 And that's why you're seeing this phenomenon occurring in our society.

00:25:24.920 Right.

00:25:25.360 Because if you say, on the one hand, victimhood carries social currency, you'll be treated better, you'll be exalted.

00:25:32.880 And also, here is your only route to victimhood.

00:25:37.640 You know, here is a potential route, at least.

00:25:39.700 Exactly.

00:25:40.360 What do you think is going to happen?

00:25:41.640 It doesn't take a brain surgeon to recognize how those incentives work.

00:25:45.260 Exactly.

00:25:45.700 Great point, too, that you make on being a product somewhat of our environments, in that if you fill a kid's head up with lies and you encourage all sorts of lusts and lower appetites in them, you've now corrupted both aspects of their free will.

00:26:04.000 Absolutely.

00:26:04.620 It would be a lot harder for them to live as free men.

00:26:07.580 And our enemies understand that.

00:26:10.120 I mean, that's why Vladimir Lenin said, give me your children to teach for four years and the seed that I sow will never be uprooted.

00:26:17.420 And that's why they're so anxious to be in the school system early on and to infect the brains of our children.

00:26:24.520 Right.

00:26:24.780 And that's why we have to be every bit as aggressive, if not more aggressive, in protecting our children.

00:26:31.680 I'm up.

00:26:34.360 Of the government agencies that need to be greatly reformed or abolished entirely, the FBI is at the top of the list.

00:26:42.000 The top of the list.

00:26:46.780 That's an easy one.

00:26:48.880 You got my answer right.

00:26:50.400 So I guess you've given me a hint.

00:26:54.780 They're spying on my church among the myriad other abuses.

00:27:00.720 That's pretty bad.

00:27:02.200 Well, when you take the Justice Department and you use it unjustly, obviously, that's not going to be a good outcome.

00:27:14.260 And when we're using the DOJ to eliminate a political opponent, isn't that something that we would expect in Russia?

00:27:25.780 Or a banana republic.

00:27:26.800 Or a banana republic.

00:27:28.420 And yet it's happening right before our very eyes and nothing's being done about it.

00:27:35.300 That's the disturbing part.

00:27:37.620 Now, ultimately, our founders were very smart people.

00:27:43.180 They were geniuses, some of them.

00:27:44.940 They could foresee all of this.

00:27:48.840 And that's why they put the power to change it in the hands of the people through our ability to vote.

00:27:57.740 The problem is people don't take voting seriously.

00:28:05.280 Most people, they go into the booth or they take the sheet and they just look for the name that looks familiar.

00:28:12.380 It could be Satan.

00:28:13.800 Oh, OK.

00:28:14.760 I've heard of him for a long time.

00:28:16.140 Yeah, I know that one.

00:28:17.360 Check that one. 0.79

00:28:18.240 That's not responsible.

00:28:22.920 And we have a lot of people who do that.

00:28:25.720 And it's problematic.

00:28:27.080 And this is the time when people need to be very serious.

00:28:30.520 They need to study who these people are.

00:28:35.440 They need to look at the records of the people who have represented them for a long time.

00:28:40.880 And if they don't agree with them, they need to do something about that.

00:28:44.800 And this is a clarion call.

00:28:48.320 It may be the last opportunity.

00:28:49.920 Because we can see that there are those who have a totalitarian spirit.

00:28:56.820 And in their opinion, they are righteous.

00:29:01.600 And anybody who opposes them is unrighteous.

00:29:05.120 And it really doesn't matter what you do to them.

00:29:07.040 And if righteousness is defined essentially by their own will,

00:29:10.940 then there's nothing that they're not justified in doing in their own minds.

00:29:14.560 It's really the same mindset the jihadists have and the infidels. 1.00

00:29:20.420 You can do anything to them.

00:29:21.900 You can lie to them.

00:29:23.400 You can cheat them. 1.00

00:29:24.360 You can kill them. 0.99

00:29:25.380 And it doesn't really count against you. 1.00

00:29:27.920 It's the same mindset.

00:29:28.940 There's a remark that Pope Benedict made in Regensburg some years ago

00:29:35.220 when he said there's a distinction between the God of Christianity and the God of Islam.

00:29:39.920 And the God of Christianity is synonymous with logic.

00:29:42.820 He's the logos, whereas, and Pope Benedict got in trouble for saying this,

00:29:46.980 but he cited a medieval Islamic writer, Ibn Hassam,

00:29:50.320 who pointed out that the God of Islam is a God of pure will,

00:29:54.580 pure transcendent will,

00:29:56.220 such that if Allah in Islam wanted to make his followers worship idols,

00:30:03.300 he could do that.

00:30:04.280 Whereas within Christianity, you have a logical God. 0.65

00:30:07.460 I think your comparison to the jihadis is apt in that we're talking about a total transcendent will.

00:30:16.060 One day they can tell us the distinction between men and women is very important to advance feminism 0.99

00:30:20.820 or to advance gay rights or something.

00:30:23.420 The next day they'll tell us there's no distinction at all to advance transgenderism.

00:30:27.460 It doesn't matter.

00:30:28.320 And then Thursday they're going to tell us something totally different. 1.00

00:30:30.800 And, of course, they assume that people are stupid. 1.00

00:30:35.840 Sometimes a fair judgment, actually. 1.00

00:30:39.200 Indeed.

00:30:40.640 I'm up.

00:30:41.580 No, you're up.

00:30:42.220 I think I'm up.

00:30:42.900 You're up.

00:30:46.460 It is more difficult to find a reason to vote for Democrats

00:30:50.320 than it is to separate conjoined twins.

00:30:53.360 Now, I have to answer for you.

00:30:57.640 That seems easy.

00:31:00.720 Well, it is difficult to find a reason to vote for Democrats

00:31:05.360 unless you've been...

00:31:10.220 Brainwashed for a year.

00:31:12.740 Then it's easy.

00:31:13.860 Well, now at least I finally get to drink since I got your answer wrong.

00:31:16.940 Then it's easy.

00:31:17.580 My only reason why I would say, yes, it is easier to separate conjoined twins at the head 0.96

00:31:24.880 than it is to find a reason to vote for Democrats is...

00:31:26.780 I'm not saying that's true for everyone.

00:31:28.500 Right.

00:31:29.060 But I probably am the most noted expert on this,

00:31:33.340 having written a number one best-selling tome called

00:31:36.100 Reasons to Vote for Democrats, a Comprehensive Guide.

00:31:38.340 And then it was 166 blank pages?

00:31:40.340 Blank pages, yes.

00:31:41.660 Now I'm sitting across from an expert in a different field

00:31:44.820 separating conjoined twins at the head.

00:31:46.480 My only point is, you successfully accomplished your task.

00:31:51.920 I failed at my...

00:31:53.220 I did not find a single reason.

00:31:54.580 And so it just seems to me...

00:31:56.560 I'll drink anyway, since I got your answer wrong.

00:31:58.960 I'm up.

00:32:04.120 No one has a clue how the brain really works.

00:32:08.740 Hmm.

00:32:09.960 That's a provocative question.

00:32:11.500 That's the whole question?

00:32:12.460 That's the whole...

00:32:12.940 That's the whole...

00:32:13.360 That's the whole prompt, at least.

00:32:14.160 No one has a clue how the brain really works.

00:32:20.220 I would deny my profession if I said yes to that.

00:32:23.980 I would say...

00:32:25.900 Okay, my...

00:32:28.120 Hmm.

00:32:30.020 I'm somewhat overthinking it, because I want to say you got my answer wrong

00:32:33.300 and I want to put yes, but then ultimately I think I'm actually going to put it as no.

00:32:36.860 My argument being, obviously, we have some idea how the brain works.

00:32:41.000 Well, I don't, but you do.

00:32:42.760 Well, we certainly wouldn't be opening up people's heads and operating on it if we...

00:32:46.260 We had no idea.

00:32:47.620 But if the question is taken to be, ultimately, we don't know how the brain works.

00:32:52.140 We haven't mapped the whole thing.

00:32:53.400 We don't know exactly.

00:32:54.100 I suppose then you might flip it.

00:32:57.360 But then furthermore, I do think we have an idea of how the brain works in the sense that

00:33:01.560 we know that human beings are body and soul, and we know that our physical bodies reflect

00:33:07.500 a metaphysical reality, and we know that we are rational creatures with a free will.

00:33:13.500 Now, it's quite abstracted from, you know, scissors.

00:33:16.360 But we know nuts and bolts.

00:33:18.220 We know nuts and bolts.

00:33:18.980 For instance, I say to you, take your index finger and touch that card right there.

00:33:27.080 Now, I know what it took for you to do that.

00:33:31.980 The sound weights had to leave my lips, travel to the air, and in your external auditory

00:33:35.440 matrix, travel down to your tympanic membrane, set up a vibratory force, was traveled across

00:33:39.280 the oscals of the middle ear to the over and around when the second vibratory force distorted 0.59

00:33:44.700 the microcilia, converting mechanical energy to electrical energy, travel across the cochlear

00:33:49.140 nerve to the cochlear nucleus at the pontomedullary junction from there to the superior olivary

00:33:53.660 nucleus, ascending bilaterally up the brainstem to the lateral luniscus to the inferior colliculus

00:33:58.300 and the mediogeniculate nuclei.

00:34:00.040 Across the thalamic radiations to the posterior temporal lobes, begin the auditory processing

00:34:03.860 from there to the frontal lobes, down the tractors, take the jury, retrieve the memory from

00:34:07.840 the metacampus structure in the mammary bodies, back to the frontal lobes to start the motor

00:34:12.000 response at the bed cell level, coming down the corticospinal tract, across the internal

00:34:15.580 capsule, into the cerebral pedo, and extending down to the cervical medullary decussation

00:34:19.880 into the sopranogorgary matter, stimulating the nerve and the muscle, so you could point

00:34:25.660 to that card.

00:34:26.500 You took the words right out of my mouth.

00:34:29.680 It was on the tip of my tongue.

00:34:31.640 But of course.

00:34:32.680 But my point being, we know a lot about the brain.

00:34:35.680 We just don't know all there is to know about it.

00:34:38.100 But that is more, you're right, I'm willing to wager that is more than, more than nothing.

00:34:45.040 More than nothing?

00:34:45.520 More than nothing.

00:34:47.540 Europe.

00:34:50.020 I'll drink anyway, just to try to understand all.

00:34:54.620 The euphonium is for people who can't handle the tuba.

00:35:01.860 Hmm.

00:35:02.340 For those who don't know, the euphonium is a baritone.

00:35:07.240 Well, I think I know your answer.

00:35:09.260 It better be.

00:35:12.060 I did not know that you play the euphonium.

00:35:15.540 I did.

00:35:16.580 I played the euphonium in high school.

00:35:20.180 And I was actually rather skillful.

00:35:23.020 In fact, I was offered a scholarship to Interlochen, which is a music camp in Michigan for very talented musicians.

00:35:33.520 And my band teacher, even though it would have been a big feather in his cap, he said,

00:35:38.580 Benny, don't accept it because you're going to be a great doctor and I don't want you to get distracted.

00:35:46.800 Wow.

00:35:47.240 There are some very good teachers who actually care a lot more about their students than they do about their own accolades.

00:35:56.080 That was a good example of them.

00:35:58.600 There have been a lot of good teachers that I've encountered over the course of time.

00:36:05.280 Unfortunately, many teachers have also subscribed to Marxist-like tendencies.

00:36:10.880 The teacher unions have subscribed to Marxist philosophies.

00:36:15.840 And we have a problem.

00:36:18.420 And that's why there's such an explosion right now of charter schools, home schools, faith-based schools,

00:36:26.800 trying to avert some of the damage that those people can do to our kids.

00:36:32.920 Do you ever regret passing on the high-flying euphonium star lifestyle, the groupies?

00:36:40.060 I don't because I still get to enjoy the music because my wife is a musician.

00:36:47.720 Now, what does she play? 1.00

00:36:48.840 She's a violinist.

00:36:51.160 And she was playing at a concert here last night with the Nashville Praise Symphony.

00:36:58.060 You know, I strum a guitar, a little ukulele every now and again,

00:37:02.820 but then you really raised the bar with the euphonium and the violin.

00:37:07.500 Well, my kids all played.

00:37:09.620 My wife had them all playing string instruments as they were growing up, 0.94

00:37:13.620 one on the violin, one on the viola, one on the cello.

00:37:17.360 You have a nice little trio.

00:37:19.200 Yeah, and then she plays violin, so they had a string quartet.

00:37:22.260 And they performed in lots of different places.

00:37:24.520 It was really quite amazing.

00:37:26.680 I do love, I played violin as a child.

00:37:29.760 I fear that I would pop whatever the first step of your brain working.

00:37:33.760 I would explode it if I played it for you right now.

00:37:36.740 But I love the way you put it with music.

00:37:39.900 You say, well, I still get to enjoy the music, but in an amateur way.

00:37:45.480 And I think, you know, amateur means lover, you know, like amatore.

00:37:48.820 And that's how I enjoy music.

00:37:50.820 I think that's a wonderful thing.

00:37:52.220 If I were a professional musician, I'd probably be totally miserable.

00:37:55.120 But because I get to strum a little bit with my kids, it's lovely.

00:37:58.320 Well, when my middle son, who played cello, would play with his mom,

00:38:03.960 I would call their act, yo, yo, ma, and yo, ma, ma.

00:38:12.900 That would sell.

00:38:13.720 If you released an album, that would sell.

00:38:18.740 Dr. Ben Carson is known for beating the odds throughout his life.

00:38:21.620 However, graduating from Yale University and joining the Navy

00:38:24.940 while being married to a woman might have been statistically the greatest improbability.

00:38:32.080 Dr. Carson, I don't know if you've heard some of the pop culture rumors about Yale.

00:38:38.880 They suggest that Yalies are a touch light in the loafers. 1.00

00:38:42.720 They make the same kind of arguments about the Navy.

00:38:46.720 My grandfather was a Navy captain.

00:38:48.240 Okay, a lot of family in the Navy.

00:38:49.900 And as a graduate of Yale, I would like to be offended on your behalf for that extremely

00:38:56.640 insulting question, even if statistically there might be some truth to it.

00:39:01.740 Well, I was never in the Navy.

00:39:04.460 You were never in the...

00:39:05.040 Okay, so they got that part wrong.

00:39:06.460 I don't know where that came from.

00:39:07.820 My brother was in the Navy.

00:39:11.980 Married to a woman.

00:39:13.380 He is married to a woman.

00:39:14.220 Okay, all right.

00:39:14.920 So he beat the odds, too.

00:39:16.080 So, okay, we still have to answer.

00:39:17.660 We'll read the question again.

00:39:18.760 Okay, all right.

00:39:19.440 I want to get the wording right.

00:39:21.200 Dr. Ben Carson is known for beating the odds throughout his life.

00:39:24.280 However, graduating from Yale University and joining the Navy,

00:39:26.300 you can tell the quality of researchers we have here in the producer room,

00:39:30.160 while being married to a woman might have been statistically the greatest improbability.

00:39:34.980 I think we have to cancel that question since it's based on inappropriate information.

00:39:41.160 It's based on a false premise.

00:39:42.760 Yes, I agree.

00:39:43.540 And also, when they talk about Yale, they say one in four may be more.

00:39:49.980 Statistically, the odds of becoming the greatest neurosurgeon in the country are actually tougher

00:39:54.940 odds than all of that.

00:39:57.300 You're up.

00:39:58.520 Potentially.

00:40:01.220 Ooh, that's a long one.

00:40:03.440 The first thing we should do to help overcome our culture's war on the American family 0.88

00:40:08.280 is to reform divorce laws to be more fair to men and encourage women to not get tattoos

00:40:16.160 or start OnlyFans accounts.

00:40:21.160 There is a slight tie-in here.

00:40:23.680 I recently had a debate with a young woman who, she might put it differently, but it seems

00:40:30.320 that she discourages men from getting married because the divorce laws, divorce laws obviously 1.00

00:40:35.140 are quite unfair and not conducive to flourishing today.

00:40:38.160 But she says, basically, until those divorce laws change, it's a bad idea to get married.

00:40:44.420 Whereas I say, it's always a good idea to get married, you know, be fruitful and multiply.

00:40:48.740 What God has joined, let no man separate.

00:40:50.080 It's a good idea to get married, but people need to understand marriage. 0.85

00:40:56.300 And, you know, when two people get married, it's like taking two pieces of sandpaper and rubbing them together.

00:41:04.480 There's going to be friction.

00:41:05.820 Okay, but you've got to keep rubbing them together until they become smooth.

00:41:12.960 And, you know, no-fault divorce and all these easy ways of getting out of it, it's not very helpful.

00:41:20.240 No.

00:41:20.420 And I remember as a child how hurtful it was when my parents got divorced.

00:41:27.420 Every night I prayed that they would get back together.

00:41:30.920 They never did.

00:41:32.820 And, of course, as I got older, I understood why.

00:41:35.940 Because my father was a bigamist.

00:41:39.520 So that could never have worked, obviously.

00:41:43.320 So he previously had been married.

00:41:45.740 Wow.

00:41:46.720 He married my mother when she was 13 years old.

00:41:51.120 And, you know, she was happy to do that because trying to escape from dire poverty in rural Tennessee,

00:41:58.680 a large family where she was shuffled from home to home, she was just trying to get out of there.

00:42:03.320 She had less than a third-grade education.

00:42:05.980 But I'll tell you an interesting thing about my mother with all that going on.

00:42:09.960 She never played the victim.

00:42:12.040 She never made excuses.

00:42:14.180 She never felt sorry for herself.

00:42:17.040 Problem was she never felt sorry for us either.

00:42:20.420 And there's really no, when you say, you know,

00:42:25.220 Ouch, Mom, I scraped my knee today.

00:42:27.620 Or I'm too tired of you.

00:42:28.500 You say, Oh, really?

00:42:29.680 I have a third-grade education.

00:42:31.260 I escaped poverty at 13.

00:42:33.320 That's right.

00:42:33.640 I don't want to hear it, kids.

00:42:34.940 That's exactly right.

00:42:35.960 I do love that attitude, though, that you're describing of her,

00:42:39.140 which is I basically think there is no reason ever to whine about anything.

00:42:45.480 If you're going to criticize something as a political matter and then try to fix that, I'm all for it.

00:42:51.520 But just kind of whining about any slight that happens to you, I think basically in all circumstances, it's not going to help you.

00:42:59.040 But I'm for anything that will preserve marriage and put divorce on the back burner.

00:43:08.560 Yeah.

00:43:09.500 The reason, sometimes people don't, they say, why divorce law?

00:43:12.720 There's so many other problems in the country, the border, the this, the economy, the this.

00:43:16.320 And I think, right, I understand.

00:43:18.760 It seems a little abstracted, but it's what we were talking about earlier.

00:43:21.240 The family is the building block of the whole political order.

00:43:26.960 If you fracture that, you can never have a stable political order.

00:43:30.540 It's just not possible.

00:43:31.400 Right.

00:43:31.720 And understand that that's where children get their values from.

00:43:35.280 That's where they get their self-worth from.

00:43:38.160 And one of the reasons that the social media and all these things have become so powerful

00:43:46.560 is because children are not getting their solid foundation and base from their family.

00:43:53.000 They're going to look for some place to get it.

00:43:55.920 And unfortunately, those places frequently are not good places.

00:43:59.660 Right.

00:44:00.360 Right.

00:44:01.820 Okay, I think I'm up.

00:44:04.420 Nicotine in its pure form is more beneficial for the human brain than CBD oil.

00:44:10.320 Okay, so we're talking about two substances.

00:44:13.020 One a derivative of tobacco, one a derivative of the Haitian oregano, the devil's lettuce, 0.67

00:44:17.860 the sin spinach, as some call it.

00:44:20.160 Nicotine is more beneficial than or less harmful, say.

00:44:26.120 Well, let's put it this way.

00:44:27.660 Nicotine is one of the most addictive substances known to man.

00:44:32.340 It's even more addictive than the ingredients of that joint that people smoke.

00:44:43.800 Well, with that hint, I'm going to say you will say no.

00:44:48.640 I think you're correct.

00:44:50.560 My answer?

00:44:51.300 Dr. Carson, I may finally have pulled ahead in this game because I, now, say it's just

00:45:00.160 my own bias because I like cigars and have a cigar company, Mayflower Cigars.

00:45:05.280 I'm not saying either are beneficial necessarily.

00:45:07.940 But nicotine sharpens your senses.

00:45:13.560 It, you know, for better or worse.

00:45:16.360 Whereas, marijuana dulls your senses.

00:45:20.380 You know, the best thing that comes out of marijuana is it makes you appreciate Doritos

00:45:23.860 more than you previously did.

00:45:25.980 So I guess I'm saying if you had to choose between the two, I would recommend nicotine.

00:45:31.420 And I know that marijuana is not physically all that addictive.

00:45:37.160 But habitually, psychologically, I find people who get into the old, you know, Peruvian parsley,

00:45:44.760 they, it consumes their life.

00:45:46.700 It's all they ever want to talk about.

00:45:47.940 Right.

00:45:48.400 Well, you have to also consider the other effects other than the mental effects.

00:45:55.180 Nicotine, very detrimental to your lungs, to your upper respiratory tract.

00:46:02.300 What if you just do those pouches, though?

00:46:05.000 I would try to find any way around.

00:46:07.160 To your heart.

00:46:07.700 It's probably not great for your heart.

00:46:08.900 No, it's not good for your heart either.

00:46:10.560 So, and your blood vessels in general.

00:46:13.100 There's, there's a disease called Berger's disease that's exacerbated by smoking.

00:46:21.320 And it causes the little blood vessels and even the smallest blood vessels to close.

00:46:29.720 And you see people actually losing the ends of their fingers.

00:46:35.080 There's sometimes their whole finger.

00:46:38.420 And I've seen pictures of people and they're still smoking with their stumps.

00:46:44.140 They're holding the cigarette.

00:46:46.820 That's how addictive it can be.

00:46:48.440 I have a friend who does, he doesn't smoke cigarettes, so it's not the lung issues.

00:46:54.680 But he takes those pouches, like Zin, you know, he takes, and I said, you're taking a lot of those pouches.

00:46:59.720 I'll try one every now and again, but I don't, you know, buy them or anything.

00:47:04.500 And he said, oh yeah, I have them all the time.

00:47:06.420 He said, tell you though, sometimes I wake up, you know, my fingers are a little like tingly.

00:47:10.080 I don't really feel my, that's very scary.

00:47:13.160 It would be starting.

00:47:14.780 Well, the best thing, don't do either.

00:47:21.180 That seems like, maybe sound medical advice.

00:47:25.420 All right, whose turn is it?

00:47:27.660 I think it's your turn, Dr. Carson.

00:47:30.100 Okay.

00:47:30.380 Due to biological advantages, men should be barred from competing in women's chess competitions.

00:47:44.200 Is there any way to get out of answering this question without losing my show?

00:47:49.800 That's a bad one.

00:47:50.860 That's a tough one.

00:47:51.640 I'm hearing skip it from off camera.

00:47:58.420 I hear, is that a certain Mrs. Carson I hear?

00:48:00.980 Due to biological advantages.

00:48:04.980 Okay.

00:48:05.320 Oh, no, I have my answer.

00:48:06.460 I have my answer that I think is going to prevent me from being canceled on this show.

00:48:09.700 And I think is defensible.

00:48:12.300 Your answer?

00:48:15.620 Why not?

00:48:16.140 I'll go for yes.

00:48:16.760 Well, there, there are, I'm going to say no.

00:48:24.760 Yes.

00:48:25.640 Men should be, because I don't think there are any biological advantages.

00:48:32.260 Okay, so I got it.

00:48:33.300 I have to drink again.

00:48:35.200 Now, I guess.

00:48:36.880 When it comes to intellect, there are biological advantages when it comes to strength.

00:48:43.100 Yes.

00:48:44.360 But not to intellect.

00:48:45.660 So my argument as to why maybe one could have answered yes would, is actually the argument

00:48:52.340 for ultimately answering no, I think, which is the Larry Summers argument.

00:48:56.180 The reason he got thrown out of Harvard is he said, well, look, the paucity of women in 1.00

00:49:01.260 certain academic fields, their relative scarcity is because at the high end of the bell curve,

00:49:09.860 the smartest people are men.

00:49:11.000 But that means that at the low end, because the bell curve is wider for men, that means 0.99

00:49:14.260 that also the dumbest people on earth are going to be men as well. 0.98

00:49:17.380 And women just kind of have it a little bit more together in the middle. 1.00

00:49:21.840 So, but because of that, then that means that the average and median woman is going to be 1.00

00:49:27.540 just as intelligent as the average and median man.

00:49:29.380 Well, I take it even further.

00:49:33.380 I go back to religion.

00:49:37.500 When God created man and woman, how did he create woman? 0.61

00:49:42.520 The rib.

00:49:44.240 Not the skull.

00:49:45.400 Yeah.

00:49:46.280 Not the foot.

00:49:48.140 The rib.

00:49:49.020 The rib.

00:49:49.560 The side.

00:49:50.060 And also, I'm not saying that women can't sometimes be taken to flights of fancy, occasionally

00:49:58.280 be a little irrational, but generally speaking, I have found women to be a bit more pragmatic, 0.97

00:50:05.320 to think in a more pragmatic way sometimes than men do.

00:50:09.100 Sometimes when my wife and I are trying to figure out a course of action, she will often

00:50:14.240 be the more grounded one.

00:50:15.360 I will be a little bit more the idealistic one.

00:50:17.380 More practical.

00:50:18.100 I think that's largely true.

00:50:23.200 Also, I don't play chess.

00:50:24.600 I never learned how to play chess.

00:50:26.080 Really?

00:50:26.440 It's an embarrassment.

00:50:27.740 I was on the Yale chess team.

00:50:30.160 Well, then we're definitely not playing chess today.

00:50:32.500 What are we doing on the score here?

00:50:33.660 I'm sure I'm losing.

00:50:35.900 I'm losing by one.

00:50:37.040 Okay.

00:50:37.940 I'm glad I'm not getting totally blown out of the water.

00:50:41.600 I'm up.

00:50:42.760 If Congress can send $113 billion in aid to Ukraine, then we can at least spend half that

00:50:47.620 to build a wall at our southern border.

00:50:52.720 Dr. Carson, we're about to tie up this game.

00:50:55.640 Absolutely.

00:50:56.080 Because I'm going to say no.

00:50:58.320 Really?

00:50:58.760 The reason is not because we shouldn't do that.

00:51:02.180 We obviously should do that.

00:51:03.400 It just seems we can't.

00:51:06.040 It just seems politically we are incapable of the most basic functions of the government.

00:51:12.080 Well, it is kind of sad, but there must be a reason that this administration is willing

00:51:23.780 to subject the American people to what is going to be a horrendous situation because

00:51:31.180 of the people who are coming in through our border, many of whom have very nefarious purposes.

00:51:40.140 Yeah.

00:51:41.400 And they're going to inflict tremendous harm on us.

00:51:47.840 And what excuse will they give at that point for having let all those people in?

00:51:53.100 No, because they pretend that all those people, some of whom are from the Middle East, some

00:51:58.560 of whom are from China, some of whom are from all over the place, all of whom have worked

00:52:02.580 with the criminal cartels which control the border, they'll say to those people, they're

00:52:06.440 just dreamers, you know, escaping political repression in Honduras or something.

00:52:11.580 Would they say that about their own home in which they had children if all of a sudden

00:52:16.840 the prisons let everybody out and a whole bunch of people came to their house and said,

00:52:22.340 I like your house, I want to live here, I'm going to eat your food, I'm going to sleep

00:52:26.360 in your bed, and I'm going to do all these things.

00:52:28.620 But it won't happen to their house.

00:52:30.920 It's going to happen in El Paso, then they'll send them to politically convenient places around

00:52:35.840 the country.

00:52:36.620 Exactly.

00:52:37.180 Right.

00:52:38.240 You're up.

00:52:39.160 Okay.

00:52:41.320 I'll drink anyway.

00:52:42.520 Me too.

00:52:42.880 You might want to try root beer next time.

00:52:50.680 I think, especially for 10 o'clock in the morning, that might be a little more fitting.

00:52:54.960 All right.

00:52:56.360 Dr. Carson has a great Trump story to tell from working at the White House.

00:53:02.780 So the prompt is, Dr. Carson has a great Trump story to tell.

00:53:06.740 I imagine your answer is going to be yes.

00:53:12.420 What's my answer?

00:53:13.320 Your answer is going to be yes, too.

00:53:16.780 I want to take another point.

00:53:18.540 My answer is no.

00:53:19.720 You will not have a great Trump story.

00:53:22.420 I bet you will have about 200 great Trump stories from working at the White House.

00:53:27.680 That's a very good point.

00:53:31.600 Could I inquire into one or two of them?

00:53:34.500 Well, I'll tell you a great Trump story.

00:53:37.360 Let's just show you what kind of sense of humor he has.

00:53:40.780 He was telling Candy and I, he said, you know, years ago, I would be in a hotel, and it would

00:53:49.920 be midnight, and there'd be a knock on my door.

00:53:54.660 I'd say, who's knocking on my door at midnight?

00:53:56.820 And he'd open the door, and there'd be this gorgeous woman throwing herself at him. 1.00

00:54:03.080 And he said, but I was good, most of the time.

00:54:11.680 So it's sort of like the Ben Franklin autobiography, in which he says that he decided that he was

00:54:17.940 going to become a paragon of virtue.

00:54:20.460 As a young man, he decided he was going to work, and he was going to have, you know,

00:54:24.420 the strength of so-and-so, and the prudence of so-and-so, and the humility of Socrates

00:54:28.120 and Jesus, to whom he's comparing himself.

00:54:30.500 But then he says, you know, and along the way, on my path to virtue, occasionally a woman

00:54:35.760 fell into my path, and I said, oh, hold on, just sort of fell from the sky?

00:54:40.540 How did that happen?

00:54:42.820 Well, Benjamin Franklin was an amazing guy, though.

00:54:45.460 He was a genius, along with Thomas Jefferson and some of the others.

00:54:50.340 Their ability to foresee things and to propose solutions was pretty amazing.

00:54:59.720 And especially in the case of Franklin, he was just a total polymath, right?

00:55:03.580 You know, he was a publisher, a politician, an inventor, a diplomat, a scientist, everything.

00:55:09.400 Unbelievable.

00:55:10.460 And that had a lot to do with, I think, our success as a nation, putting, you know, those

00:55:16.700 correct principles in place.

00:55:20.200 And, you know, what we need to think about in this nation right now is why is it that

00:55:26.200 so many people wanted to come here?

00:55:27.780 Even now, when people say how horrible we are, you still see people trying to flood in

00:55:32.340 here, which tells you something, doesn't it?

00:55:35.200 Right.

00:55:35.600 All the people who always say, I'm going to move to Canada if Trump gets elected.

00:55:38.920 They never do, do they?

00:55:39.660 They never make good on that promise, much to my dismay.

00:55:42.920 Well, you know, Candy and I have traveled to 68 countries.

00:55:48.340 We've lived overseas.

00:55:50.040 We've lived for a year in Australia.

00:55:52.740 And I can tell you, there's no place like this country, and that's why we really need

00:55:58.380 to put all of our effort into preserving it.

00:56:01.320 And those people who are trying to fundamentally change this nation are not our friends.

00:56:07.360 And, you know, we need to know what we're up against.

00:56:13.080 And, you know, people say, don't talk about politics and don't talk about religion.

00:56:20.440 Those are the very things we need to be talking about.

00:56:22.740 We need to be talking about the things that are fundamental to who we became as a nation.

00:56:27.080 What are we supposed to talk about?

00:56:28.200 The Yankees?

00:56:29.160 I like the Yankees, but, you know.

00:56:30.420 You're supposed to talk about Hollywood and sports and not talk about the important things.

00:56:37.660 Particularly don't talk about them to your children.

00:56:40.040 Right.

00:56:40.400 And they become very easy prey for those who do talk about them.

00:56:43.780 Right.

00:56:44.500 Right.

00:56:45.060 It's funny.

00:56:45.360 We're chatting on my birthday.

00:56:47.200 And on my birthday, this is kind of more, I think about death.

00:56:52.580 But I think, because I'm born, and so a consequence of my being born is I'm going to die one day.

00:56:58.960 None of us get out of life without dying.

00:57:01.300 We don't.

00:57:03.160 That's where we're headed.

00:57:04.420 And I think, okay, well, am I doing the things I want to be doing?

00:57:07.320 Am I accomplishing the things that I want to accomplish?

00:57:09.520 But it's important for people to think about final things.

00:57:13.400 Because it's only when you think about final things that all the other things come into perspective.

00:57:19.220 What are we here for?

00:57:19.980 What are we doing?

00:57:20.860 What is my purpose here?

00:57:22.540 How ought we to live while we are here?

00:57:24.800 Otherwise, it's just all Hollywood and sports.

00:57:27.080 It's hard to actually have a good answer to that if you don't believe in something.

00:57:34.840 Right.

00:57:35.180 If you don't have faith.

00:57:37.460 And if you don't see something bigger than yourself.

00:57:42.480 For a lot of people themselves, that's the end all.

00:57:47.660 So that's why they try to spend everything on themselves and everything is central to them.

00:57:52.680 I don't see how that can ever bring happiness to anyone.

00:57:56.700 Right.

00:57:57.460 Right.

00:57:58.240 The greatest things are things that you do for others.

00:58:04.200 And the way that you improve your environment.

00:58:06.360 And I remember about a year ago, I was in the airport, and a guy comes running up to me.

00:58:13.560 And he says, Dr. Carson, Dr. Carson, you won't remember me.

00:58:16.840 But 30 years ago, you operated on my daughter.

00:58:20.740 She was three years old.

00:58:22.480 She had a malignant brain tumor.

00:58:24.960 Everybody said she was going to die.

00:58:26.720 And last week, we celebrated her 33rd birthday.

00:58:31.000 You know, those are cool things.

00:58:33.960 Wow.

00:58:36.540 So you're right.

00:58:37.360 I don't remember you, but I'm glad you came up to me.

00:58:39.960 I'm glad it worked out.

00:58:41.500 Absolutely.

00:58:42.160 Wow.

00:58:42.640 But what we can do in our environment to improve it for others, that's the only thing that I think brings real happiness.

00:58:51.740 Stuff doesn't do it.

00:58:52.880 You know, I can tell you from having grown up in dire poverty to, you know, now when, you know, we're very affluent people now.

00:59:03.880 But that doesn't bring happiness.

00:59:06.940 Yeah.

00:59:07.480 What brings happiness is the relationships that you have with other people and the things that you do in your environment.

00:59:14.340 Right.

00:59:15.180 Right.

00:59:15.780 They have not figured out a way to take it with them yet.

00:59:19.040 Maybe when you figure out how to take it with you, maybe that'll change, but I wouldn't hold my breath for it.

00:59:23.880 You're right.

00:59:26.400 Or is it you?

00:59:27.180 You're the last question.

00:59:27.940 I'm the last question.

00:59:30.000 If Michael Nose had chosen to become a neurosurgeon, he would have made the world a better place.

00:59:37.820 He wouldn't have been, he wouldn't have been a good doctor, but at least he wouldn't be doing political commentary anymore.

00:59:46.340 Well, I think Ben Shapiro wrote these questions.

00:59:51.700 I'm now beginning.

00:59:52.300 It wasn't Ben Davies.

00:59:53.280 It was Ben Shapiro.

00:59:55.220 Well, okay.

00:59:56.900 He would have made the world a better place.

00:59:59.060 Well, you would have made the world a better place.

01:00:00.900 That's true.

01:00:01.540 I was about to answer no for you.

01:00:03.620 Well, that part is true.

01:00:04.740 You think, okay.

01:00:05.060 You would have made the world a better place.

01:00:06.600 Okay.

01:00:08.080 But I'm not sure that you wouldn't have been a good doctor.

01:00:11.560 You would have been a good doctor.

01:00:14.120 You would have been a good doctor.

01:00:15.160 Thank you. 1.00

01:00:15.560 So take that, producers, you big jerks. 0.99

01:00:17.760 Dr. Ben Carson, one of the biggest, most important doctors in America, says I would have been good. 0.99

01:00:22.340 So take that.

01:00:26.040 That's great.

01:00:26.820 Well, I am glad.

01:00:29.000 I would have gotten that wrong anyway.

01:00:30.400 I'm sure you beat me at the game.

01:00:31.560 I don't even know what the score is.

01:00:32.980 I am going to toast to that.

01:00:34.820 That's very kind of you to end with a compliment.

01:00:37.940 All right.

01:00:41.820 Even the four sips I've had of this have been a little much.

01:00:45.020 Maybe I'll eat the olive, and that can be my breakfast.

01:00:47.600 Dr. Carson, this was truly among the top birthday gifts I could have gotten.

01:00:52.720 To meet you today to find out that not only are you a man that I've admired for a long time, but you're even more admirable because you managed to make it out of that crazy institution in New Haven and have such an amazing and important career.

01:01:08.920 Well, let's pray for our alma mater.

01:01:13.080 And our country.

01:01:13.800 They have sort of gone a little bit over the deep end, but there are good people there.

01:01:20.080 Yeah.

01:01:20.900 And, you know, it started out as an institution that prepared ministers.

01:01:27.560 For God, for country, and for Yale is the slogan.

01:01:30.360 You look at Harvard, you look at all of these students, they all started out that way.

01:01:34.640 And look what's happened over the course of time.

01:01:37.340 And it's happening largely because people remain silent.

01:01:43.300 I think the majority of Americans actually think logically and have common sense.

01:01:50.000 What is missing is courage.

01:01:53.100 People don't want to be canceled.

01:01:55.440 They don't want to be called a nasty name.

01:01:58.480 But what they have to remember is you cannot be the land of the free if you're not the home of the brave.

01:02:04.560 Courage being the prerequisite of all of the virtues.

01:02:09.620 And my friend Andrew Klavan sometimes points out.

01:02:12.140 The problem is not so much that our elites, whether we're talking about at a university or in the government or media or wherever.

01:02:18.000 It's not that our elites won't practice what they preach.

01:02:22.020 It's that they won't preach what they practice.

01:02:24.080 In that the elites still know it's good to get married.

01:02:27.280 It's good to have a family.

01:02:28.420 It's good to focus on education.

01:02:30.640 It's good to work hard.

01:02:31.900 It's good to better yourself.

01:02:33.060 They know that.

01:02:34.480 They do that for themselves.

01:02:36.060 They just tell everyone else not to do it.

01:02:37.900 They give them terrible advice.

01:02:39.280 They brainwash them.

01:02:40.920 And it's no wonder when those people have much more difficult lives.

01:02:44.840 Absolutely.

01:02:45.660 The book, The Perilous Fight.

01:02:47.800 The book talks a lot about what you just said.

01:02:51.160 It goes into deep explanations, gives the statistics.

01:02:54.800 Because people need to understand what's happening.

01:02:59.720 They need to understand that they're being played, that they're being manipulated.

01:03:03.520 That those who want to fundamentally change America realize that we're too powerful to be taken down militarily, but that we can be taken down from within.

01:03:13.140 And therefore, all the emphasis on dividing us on the basis of race, age, income, religion, political affiliation, gender, you name it, throw it in the pot, divide the people up into all these identity groups, and bingo.

01:03:29.920 So, you take down the great United States.

01:03:34.180 The Perilous Fight.

01:03:35.180 It is a perilous fight.

01:03:36.520 And this is my first chance to get the book.

01:03:39.140 I am very much looking forward to reading it.

01:03:41.420 You should all read it, too.

01:03:42.780 The Perilous Fight by Dr. Ben Carson.

01:03:44.940 Dr. Carson, thank you so much for coming on.

01:03:47.240 It's been a great thing with you.

01:03:48.560 Thank you.

01:03:48.920 Thank you.

The Michael Knowles Show - April 13, 2024

Racism & Liberals： YES or NO with Dr. Ben Carson

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