The Michael Knowles Show - Religion FACE-OFF： Michael Knowles Vs Megan Basham

00:00:00.000 This is poor sportsmanship, Michael. I'm just saying.

00:00:02.500 St. Augustine Church, first...

00:00:05.560 It has to be still a functioning church.

00:00:07.540 It's still a functioning... Listen to this guy.

00:00:09.360 Yeah, founded on September 8th, 1565.

00:00:13.420 How do you like that?

00:00:14.280 When shadowy figures like George Soros infiltrate and attack evangelical churches,

00:00:19.020 the appropriate response is to bash them.

00:00:21.160 When fed liberals spy on Latin mass Catholic churchgoers, we bash them. 1.00

00:00:25.160 And when French degenerates mock the Last Supper, we bash them. 1.00

00:00:28.260 And someone who knows all about this is Megan Basham, who's been bashing them for years. 1.00

00:00:32.660 Now, Michael Knowles and Megan both know all about Basham Lives,

00:00:35.580 but who knows more about religion?

00:00:37.960 We'll find out. This is Face Off.

00:00:43.980 Michael and Megan, the topic is religion.

00:00:46.740 What have you done to prepare for this?

00:00:47.760 That was the lamest pun you could have possibly opened with.

00:00:51.640 Are you kidding me?

00:00:52.540 When I find a pun, I beat it to death.

00:00:54.280 You, truly, you just, you took that pun and you wielded it as a club over that dead horse on the

00:00:59.940 ground and you just kept... We have a wonderful guest, Megan Basham, and you would blow it on 0.99

00:01:05.820 that terrible pun. We have this wonderful guest who has this great book out, Shepherds for Sale,

00:01:09.960 New York Times, bestseller, Taking the Country by Storm. I have done nothing to prepare,

00:01:15.400 including reading the book because I just received my copy and I'm very excited to read this book.

00:01:19.900 Meg, thank you for being on my show. And Ben, thank you for inviting me onto my own show.

00:01:25.140 Thank you for having me. I'm a little bit trepidatious here, but I do feel that my Arizona

00:01:33.240 state pedigree might be a little intimidating to you, Michael. I don't know if you know this.

00:01:37.960 We are known as the Harvard of the Southwest. So hopefully, you know, that sterling education

00:01:44.220 is what has prepared me to be here today.

00:01:46.300 Well, I believe it. Thank you. And actually, it occurs to me, thinking of the present state

00:01:51.660 of Yale, that I think in order to be admitted to Yale Divinity School today, you have to be an 1.00

00:01:57.820 atheist. So, you know, the religious education, a little bit weak up in New Haven. We'll see how

00:02:04.320 the game goes.

00:02:05.080 The winner will get a 30-second commercial for either why you should watch their show or

00:02:09.500 why you should go read their book.

00:02:11.160 Number one, behind Christianity and Islam, what is the third most common belief in the world?

00:02:17.480 A. Buddhism. B. Sikhism. C. Hinduism. D. Secular Atheist.

00:02:28.780 All right, here we go. Mike, what do you have?

00:02:30.500 Since India overtook China, what last year is the most populous country in the world, I'm going with 0.99

00:02:35.120 C. Hinduism. 0.93

00:02:36.740 I also went with Hinduism.

00:02:38.760 This is very recent. By 0.2, now non-religious, atheist, secular, has now passed Hinduism worldwide. 0.62

00:02:47.480 Isn't that wild?

00:02:47.940 I almost said that.

00:02:49.820 Yeah, I would not. Okay, that's depressing.

00:02:52.800 That's depressing.

00:02:53.800 Pretty wild.

00:02:54.720 Number two, how many books were included in the original Gutenberg Bible, the first major

00:02:59.600 book printed using the movable type? Is it A, 66? B, 72? C, 73? D, 80?

00:03:07.220 All right, Megan, what do you have?

00:03:12.200 I went with the standard, 66.

00:03:14.640 The standard?

00:03:16.180 Hold on here.

00:03:17.220 What do we mean by standard?

00:03:18.500 I was torn between 72 and 73 because it kind of hinges on how you score one of the books,

00:03:26.340 but I said 73.

00:03:27.260 The correct answer is C, 73.

00:03:29.600 Let's go.

00:03:30.360 Printed in 1450.

00:03:31.820 There we go, baby.

00:03:32.300 73 books. This followed the Catholic canon at the time.

00:03:35.580 Yeah. And at the present time, too, by the way. It hasn't changed since certain people

00:03:41.100 took some books out, but, you know, we stick by Gutenberg.

00:03:45.480 Is it not 72 right now?

00:03:47.780 73.

00:03:49.040 It kind of depends on how you score a book, but yeah, 73.

00:03:54.540 All right, good to know.

00:03:55.620 All right, number three, the Kaaba, a shrine located near the center of the Great Mosque

00:04:01.520 in Mecca, is unique in many ways.

00:04:03.380 One unique feature is a relic built into the wall in the eastern corner.

00:04:07.700 What is this relic?

00:04:09.100 Is it A, a footprint of Mohammed? 0.92

00:04:11.480 B, a section of Abraham's staff?

00:04:14.260 C, a rock carried out of the Garden of Eden by Adam?

00:04:17.600 D, a jewel given by the angel Gabriel to Mohammed? 0.74

00:04:21.040 When am I going to get my purpose-driven life Rick Warren evangelical question?

00:04:27.080 We'll get to the Protestant softball questions here later.

00:04:29.560 I just got to warm up Michael, you know?

00:04:30.900 There was one time I was traveling around the Middle East.

00:04:33.440 I was visiting a friend in Dubai, and we kind of went all over to Oman and Beirut,

00:04:38.000 and I really wanted to get into Saudi Arabia, but it turns out it's difficult to get in.

00:04:43.560 So I didn't get to see the Kaaba, didn't go to Chop Chop Square.

00:04:47.240 I think I have an answer. I don't know.

00:04:48.620 The photos there are pretty impressive.

00:04:50.220 Yeah. Of Chop Chop Square or the Kaaba?

00:04:52.700 Both. I mean, how do you compare, you know?

00:04:55.220 All right. Megan, what do you have?

00:04:57.020 I went with a total stab in the dark of Abraham's staff. 0.72

00:05:00.280 I said the jewel from the angel Gabriel.

00:05:03.920 What's most impressive about this question is I made up all of them,

00:05:07.040 except for one, the correct one, which was a rock carried out by Adam in the Garden of Eden,

00:05:11.880 which most people think is a meteorite.

00:05:14.100 So the answer is C.

00:05:14.940 Oh, I've heard about that.

00:05:17.600 That'd be kind of cool to see.

00:05:18.940 Yeah. Well, it's hard to see now because it's been rubbed on so many times,

00:05:23.000 you can't really see the area, but you should Google it.

00:05:25.800 It's hard to see because there's like 10 zillion people there all kind of circling around,

00:05:29.700 so you got to like peek over their heads and stuff, you know?

00:05:31.640 You did good because that one seemed like the least likely to me.

00:05:34.480 Hey, producing, you know?

00:05:38.020 Number four, according to Pew Research Center and the Public Religion Research Institute,

00:05:43.480 which is currently the fastest growing Christian denomination in America,

00:05:47.700 is it A, Roman Catholicism, B, Evangelicalism or Protestantism,

00:05:52.860 C, Pentecostalism, D, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Mormon?

00:05:57.880 I'm checking my spelling.

00:06:00.780 This is a really tricky one because it plays into other political questions,

00:06:05.940 even beyond like religion and stuff.

00:06:08.340 Okay.

00:06:08.860 I said C, Pentecostalism, in part because of the immigrants, 1.00

00:06:15.920 who you'd expect them to be Catholic because they're Latin American,

00:06:18.460 but many of them are Pentecostal.

00:06:19.800 So I'm cautiously saying Pentecostalism.

00:06:22.860 All right, Meg, what do you have?

00:06:23.640 I said the same.

00:06:24.560 Y'all are both wrong.

00:06:27.360 Again, it is Evangelical Protestantism.

00:06:30.140 Oh, really?

00:06:30.720 Yeah.

00:06:31.340 Pentecostalism.

00:06:31.700 Really?

00:06:32.160 Yeah.

00:06:32.380 I thought Evangelicalism was like waning right now.

00:06:36.120 Okay, so here's, it has been, and here's why I didn't go with that.

00:06:39.600 But here's what, I can see it because apparently since Trump,

00:06:44.620 a lot of people have started identifying as Evangelicals,

00:06:48.000 though they don't go to church and they're not really involved in their faith.

00:06:52.320 So I don't know that they should count.

00:06:53.820 And they don't like believe in God or like pray or anything.

00:06:57.460 But you know, that's the thing to be now.

00:07:00.900 Yeah.

00:07:01.380 Okay.

00:07:01.780 Interesting.

00:07:02.240 All right.

00:07:03.660 All right.

00:07:04.240 This next question is also very interesting.

00:07:07.040 Number five.

00:07:07.660 In Islam, how many wives can a man have? 0.99

00:07:10.500 This is closest without going over.

00:07:12.280 I just have to pick like any number?

00:07:14.200 Any number without going over.

00:07:15.980 That's right.

00:07:16.480 Infinity.

00:07:16.960 Infinity, I guess that would go over.

00:07:21.160 I was shocked to find there is actually a number you can throw up.

00:07:24.960 Uh, huh.

00:07:26.360 Or maybe there's none.

00:07:27.100 I'm just tricking both of you guys again.

00:07:28.740 Like, because the sultans had a lot of wives. 0.77

00:07:31.320 Like, a lot of wives. 1.00

00:07:32.300 But maybe there is a number.

00:07:37.200 How many?

00:07:38.360 I actually did double check this because our, you know, Orthodox Jewish associate producer

00:07:42.500 gave me this question.

00:07:43.780 And I was like, is that real?

00:07:44.980 And I did look it up.

00:07:45.840 And there is a specific number.

00:07:46.960 So.

00:07:47.400 I'm going to just take a random guess.

00:07:49.360 I have no.

00:07:50.200 Michael, what do you have?

00:07:51.660 I said 211.

00:07:53.160 I have 72 because I figure if that's the number of virgins you're supposed to get, then it 0.99

00:07:59.460 doesn't seem like if that's heaven that you should get more on earth.

00:08:02.960 So that's what I went with.

00:08:04.840 That is a great point.

00:08:06.340 And it paid off.

00:08:07.140 The answer is up to four.

00:08:08.360 Four wives for the basic. 0.99

00:08:10.460 Wait.

00:08:10.920 So neither of us gets the point.

00:08:12.860 Oh, yeah.

00:08:13.180 You're right.

00:08:13.460 It's closest without going over.

00:08:14.040 It's closest without going over.

00:08:15.120 Yeah.

00:08:15.520 You're right.

00:08:16.080 What do you guys got it?

00:08:17.200 Wow.

00:08:17.680 That sounds very technical and ungentlemanly, Michael.

00:08:21.860 I'm just going to say.

00:08:23.440 There was one time I was on that trip through the Middle East.

00:08:27.540 I was in, I think it was the Sharjah Airport in the UAE.

00:08:31.040 And I'm walking around with an Indian buddy of mine.

00:08:33.200 And we see there's a guy dressed up in traditional Arab garb.

00:08:38.820 And he's got these women with him.

00:08:40.620 And they're obviously not his mother.

00:08:42.700 It's not his daughters or anything.

00:08:44.380 They're all kind of the same age.

00:08:45.500 And I, in my naivete, I said, oh, that's nice.

00:08:49.440 The guy's going on like a big family trip with his wife and maybe his sisters.

00:08:52.800 And my Indian friend reminded me that it was more sister wives than wife and sisters.

00:09:00.180 You kind of bring, the whole family can just be, you know, the marriage.

00:09:03.900 Nice.

00:09:05.780 All right.

00:09:07.080 Number six.

00:09:07.920 Saddleback is tricky, though, because, you know, he claims Rick Warren to have trained like a million pastors.

00:09:36.460 But if anybody has ever attended one of his seminars, he says he has trained them as a pastor.

00:09:42.320 And they have these weird campuses all over the world that are not technically churches.

00:09:47.940 They're just people who get together and watch videos.

00:09:50.800 But I think they count them as their international campuses.

00:09:54.040 But it's in America.

00:09:54.760 I believe it's the congregation of the people that would tune in live or digitally now.

00:10:00.460 Okay.

00:10:01.140 So not like satellite, you know, okay.

00:10:03.920 No, you know, it wouldn't be people just like reading the same Bible study somewhere.

00:10:07.120 It's like you have to actually be like in that denomination.

00:10:10.120 Okay.

00:10:10.800 Okay.

00:10:11.240 All right.

00:10:11.440 What do you have?

00:10:11.740 I say it's Mr. Smiles, Joel Osteen.

00:10:14.980 I do too.

00:10:15.920 Take it.

00:10:17.020 No.

00:10:17.720 He got passed.

00:10:18.360 What?

00:10:18.560 You can only fill up so many things in that giant, what is it, the Cowboy Stadium, whatever.

00:10:22.640 No, it's actually Life Church.

00:10:24.020 Who does that one? 1.00

00:10:26.100 Craig.

00:10:26.440 That's Greg Groeschel.

00:10:28.260 Yeah, Groeschel.

00:10:29.080 How am I not getting the evangelist?

00:10:30.640 Because I'll tell you what.

00:10:31.720 I don't follow prosperity gospel guys.

00:10:34.320 So I don't care what they're doing.

00:10:35.980 The only one, I'd heard of Rick Warren and then obviously I've heard of Joel Osteen

00:10:40.040 because he's on TV all the time and, you know, has that big, those big pearly whites.

00:10:44.660 But I, wow, I thought he was, I thought he had the biggest single, you know, church group

00:10:51.320 in America.

00:10:52.060 He's still second and it is large.

00:10:54.040 I have been to T.D. Jakes as well.

00:10:55.480 It is massive.

00:10:56.480 So there's a lot of pretty impressive churches.

00:10:58.020 I think that's, that's like a standalone church too.

00:10:59.920 It's not like in a stadium like Joel Osteen.

00:11:02.320 Wow.

00:11:02.660 Okay.

00:11:03.140 Yeah.

00:11:03.320 Number seven, according to his CBS interview, what is George Soros' religious belief?

00:11:10.640 There are like a lot of punchlines here that I probably can't get away with.

00:11:14.700 We're going to stay on YouTube for once, like for one of these episodes.

00:11:17.200 I'm wondering if it's a trick question because, I mean, I think it's pretty well known he's

00:11:21.300 just an atheist, isn't he?

00:11:22.700 I'm going to be more specific, even at the risk of getting canceled.

00:11:26.860 He's a Jewish atheist.

00:11:29.540 I'm hedging my bets.

00:11:31.180 He's an atheist.

00:11:32.020 Correct.

00:11:32.240 I'll take both of those answers for it.

00:11:34.120 But does the Judaism not, like it doesn't color any of his? 0.93

00:11:39.020 Not in my research.

00:11:40.240 Interesting.

00:11:40.760 Okay.

00:11:41.040 I did not see Jewish atheists come up in my search.

00:11:44.080 I was at his most recent wedding back in 2013.

00:11:46.720 I was a fake sommelier there back when I was an actor.

00:11:49.640 Wow.

00:11:50.100 I was going to say, are you a plant, Michael?

00:11:52.300 I'm a plant.

00:11:52.940 I'm a Soros op.

00:11:54.100 No, this is actually the first, I mean, there were a ton of prominent libs at this thing.

00:11:57.420 And I had already worked in politics, but I was working, you know, as an actor, I got

00:12:00.580 a casting call for what was a, seemed like a theatrical event.

00:12:04.660 And I only figured out it was for Soros because they asked what languages I spoke.

00:12:08.040 And I half jokingly said Esperanto.

00:12:10.940 And they said, oh, great.

00:12:12.140 The client speaks that.

00:12:13.400 And I said, oh, it's obviously George Soros.

00:12:14.660 He's like one of five people who speak that language.

00:12:16.920 And, but it's, it's one of the first things that made me think, maybe George Soros doesn't

00:12:22.140 control the world because the fact that they would hire me, I had already been pretty active

00:12:25.920 in politics at that point.

00:12:27.060 Like you could Google me.

00:12:28.100 There was stuff that I thought, oh, wow.

00:12:29.620 Okay.

00:12:29.940 Maybe he's just like a really rich guy who messes around, but he's not omnipotent or something.

00:12:33.860 That was a butterfly effect moment that you may have missed, Michael.

00:12:36.760 You might've saved the world if you had intervened in some way in George Soros's life.

00:12:41.660 I'm just saying.

00:12:42.500 What, what intervention?

00:12:43.500 You're saying I've got the sommelier corkscrew and a trip or something like that.

00:12:47.280 That would be very wrong.

00:12:48.580 I'm not.

00:12:49.040 I don't, I'm just saying, you know, there was a moment of destiny there that you may

00:12:53.040 have just dodged.

00:12:54.340 That, that has to weigh on your conscience.

00:12:56.520 It, it, it did occur to me when I was thinking about the security of it.

00:13:00.220 I said, no, no, that's, you know, let's say it's, we'll let things play out in the moral

00:13:04.160 order.

00:13:04.440 Does that technically make you a diversity cast too?

00:13:07.200 Or are you like diversity cast in that?

00:13:08.780 Yeah, I must've been for many reasons.

00:13:12.160 That happened actually once for me because I was auditioning for an Olympic commercial

00:13:15.640 and it was all black guys and me and they couldn't in good conscious cast only black

00:13:19.820 guys to be fast.

00:13:21.040 And so I was the one white guy and the only one you saw the whole time on the four by

00:13:24.060 one scene, which would never happen ever in the real world.

00:13:26.420 No.

00:13:27.160 All right.

00:13:28.140 Number eight in the Marvel universe, which Avenger is Protestant? 0.77

00:13:31.800 I think it's got to be Batman, right?

00:13:36.360 I think it's got to be, uh, what?

00:13:39.420 Wait, which one is?

00:13:43.080 Well, I'm so.

00:13:43.980 Don't say hello.

00:13:45.200 Okay.

00:13:45.640 I know.

00:13:45.900 I know.

00:13:46.140 I'm trying to think.

00:13:46.840 Um.

00:13:47.600 You've seen this movie.

00:13:52.420 It's been known in the canon for years.

00:13:54.580 However, this came back into the public fold in 2012 with the first Avengers movie.

00:13:59.800 I feel like I'm going to be really upset that I'm not thinking of it, but.

00:14:03.620 I've seen like half an Avengers movie, uh, you know, I, no, I, maybe I've seen, but I

00:14:07.940 don't know.

00:14:08.380 Michael, can you name the Avengers for me real quick?

00:14:10.340 Yeah.

00:14:10.920 Uh, you got, uh, uh, Donald, Pluto, Mickey, Popeye.

00:14:16.900 See, I'm on the other side.

00:14:18.200 I've seen all of them and there's been too many and it all just kind of starts to blur

00:14:22.120 together in my mind now that I'm like, I remember no single detail.

00:14:25.740 I guess, I don't know.

00:14:26.660 Maybe I'm, I'm being too simplistic about it.

00:14:28.460 I would, I would just assume, assume Captain America is Protestant. 0.91

00:14:31.760 Megan Basham.

00:14:33.040 I also assumed that.

00:14:34.620 That is correct.

00:14:35.500 Captain America.

00:14:36.420 These guys come from legend.

00:14:37.920 They're basically gods.

00:14:39.540 There's only one god, man.

00:14:41.040 And I'm pretty sure he doesn't dress like that.

00:14:44.380 That's, I couldn't tell if I was like over, was there like a deeper answer to, but no,

00:14:50.020 it's like, I don't know.

00:14:50.780 There's a lot of, you know, America's pretty Protestant.

00:14:53.300 If you actually look this up, there is like 300 different comic book characters from Marvel

00:14:57.740 and it lists specifically the different religions around the world and they're all very diverse

00:15:00.720 or non-religious.

00:15:01.640 It's very specific with all this character.

00:15:02.980 Wow.

00:15:03.260 He's the only Protestant? 0.74

00:15:04.820 No, there's tons of other ones, but the Avengers themselves.

00:15:07.200 Yeah.

00:15:07.520 Oh.

00:15:07.960 What about the, is the Hulk an Avenger?

00:15:10.040 Yes.

00:15:11.240 What's the Hulk?

00:15:11.860 He's gotta be, he's probably Protestant, right? 0.65

00:15:13.480 I didn't look it up.

00:15:14.300 No, he's a scientist.

00:15:15.100 He's probably like an atheist or something.

00:15:16.620 Yeah.

00:15:16.900 Yeah.

00:15:16.920 Makes sense.

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00:16:43.320 Number nine.

00:16:43.960 The Latter-day Saint canon consists of several books, the Bible, and how many other texts?

00:16:50.420 Close this without going over.

00:16:51.740 This is the canon.

00:16:52.740 I mean, there obviously is lots of different.

00:16:54.560 These are the ones that are, yeah, canon.

00:16:58.300 Are you counting the individual parts of the Book of Mormon or just the Book of Mormon?

00:17:02.980 No, no, the actual books, yeah.

00:17:04.500 Yeah, okay.

00:17:06.000 Can I pause to call Mike Lee really quick?

00:17:08.340 Okay, I think I have an answer.

00:17:15.900 There's no way I'm going to try to, like, make you guys name these because it's a little wordy.

00:17:20.640 Oh, okay.

00:17:21.160 Hold on, hold on.

00:17:21.960 No, sorry.

00:17:22.880 Now I'm erasing.

00:17:24.520 How many total?

00:17:26.300 In addition to the Book of Mormon or including the Book of Mormon?

00:17:28.420 I said it's the Bible including these other texts.

00:17:33.200 So I gave you one, the Bible.

00:17:34.700 Okay.

00:17:35.240 And so how many other texts?

00:17:37.040 Okay, I think I have the answer.

00:17:38.960 I don't know.

00:17:40.140 What do you have, Michael?

00:17:40.920 I say it's three.

00:17:42.280 I think it's the Book of Mormon, Pearl of Great Price, and Doctrines and Covenants.

00:17:49.180 Oh, wow.

00:17:49.700 He actually knew the names.

00:17:51.000 I didn't, so I put two.

00:17:53.180 The correct answer is three, and somehow Michael Knowles is a closet Mormon and knows all of these. 0.90

00:17:58.200 I was going to say, Michael knew the names of the...

00:18:01.200 I actually, as you just alluded to, Megan, I do have to thank Mike Lee for some of my LDS

00:18:07.840 education, but also I sort of cheated in that I went to Utah, what, like five months ago

00:18:13.880 or something, and someone gave me, they call it a triple or something.

00:18:19.380 It's, and it's all three books in one collection with my name engraved on it.

00:18:24.320 It was very nice.

00:18:24.900 It was very, yeah.

00:18:25.760 Oh, I totally forgot it.

00:18:26.820 That was a layup that I completely forgot about.

00:18:29.000 It was a layup.

00:18:29.020 An accidental layup.

00:18:29.900 Yeah.

00:18:30.480 All right.

00:18:30.800 Number 10.

00:18:31.260 According to the Catholic News Agency, which country has the least number of Catholics?

00:18:36.420 A, Afghanistan.

00:18:37.600 B, the Maldives.

00:18:38.960 C, Algeria. 0.74

00:18:40.200 D, Somalia.

00:18:44.760 Stuck between two.

00:18:47.160 Afghanistan?

00:18:48.220 All right, Megan.

00:18:48.960 I went with Somalia.

00:18:50.820 It is A, Afghanistan. 0.98

00:18:52.600 Let's go.

00:18:53.360 With zero.

00:18:55.300 Zero Catholics in Afghanistan.

00:18:57.860 Right.

00:18:58.260 Wow, Ben, this is good.

00:19:00.860 If it makes you feel better, you know, look, a lot of this, it's all in, it's all in Providence,

00:19:06.180 how these questions come out.

00:19:07.220 But I have been getting creamed, Megan, like for the, of the last five, I think, like the

00:19:12.860 first two, I got creamed.

00:19:14.020 And then I came back a little bit.

00:19:16.040 So this, it's just cycles.

00:19:17.400 It's just like Fortuna.

00:19:18.380 I'm glad I could be here to restore your manly confidence, Michael.

00:19:25.660 Where are my John MacArthur questions?

00:19:27.760 R.C. Sproul, Spurgeon.

00:19:30.440 There might be some coming, all right?

00:19:31.920 I can't show bias here, all right?

00:19:33.480 Yeah, what is this?

00:19:34.300 You get all the, the Mormon question, the Muslims. 0.98

00:19:39.020 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:19:40.980 The Jewish atheist? 0.82

00:19:42.480 The Jewish atheist, yeah.

00:19:43.200 Yeah, okay.

00:19:43.820 All the softball questions.

00:19:45.300 Number 11.

00:19:46.480 Which of these countries has the same number of Protestants living there as Vatican City?

00:19:50.900 Is it A. Somalia, B. Turkmenistan, C. Bosnia, or D. Maldives?

00:20:00.980 What is the question again?

00:20:03.520 Which country has zero Christians or zero Protestants?

00:20:06.400 Whoa, listen to this guy.

00:20:08.240 You hear that?

00:20:09.160 That's a Freudian slip he just did.

00:20:10.520 Yeah, which country has the same number of Protestants living there as Vatican City?

00:20:16.380 Is it Somalia, Turkmenistan, Bosnia, or the Maldives?

00:20:20.880 The thing about Protestants is they'll go, like, anywhere. 1.00

00:20:25.760 They will.

00:20:26.260 So I'm actually surprised that there is any country where one's not, like, sneaking around, converting people.

00:20:33.720 Actually, you're right.

00:20:34.240 There's probably some people off the books doing this.

00:20:35.820 Yeah, yeah.

00:20:36.100 But, like, we've got to step it up.

00:20:37.020 There's zero in Afghanistan and zero, zero. 0.87

00:20:39.620 It's in the name.

00:20:40.660 I mean, you know, most, a lot of Protestants are evangelical, and evangelicals evangelize.

00:20:46.340 We have to go and do that work.

00:20:48.320 Okay, I think I have an answer.

00:20:49.480 Even though I know a Protestant who has been sneaking in and out of Turkmenistan for some time now,

00:20:55.600 I still think it's Turkmenistan.

00:20:57.200 Turkmenistan.

00:20:57.840 All right, what do you have, Megan Basham?

00:20:59.180 That was my other choice again, but I went with the other one, Somalia. 1.00

00:21:02.420 It is Somalia with zero Protestants.

00:21:05.520 Or something.

00:21:06.580 Dude, she's on the board. 0.85

00:21:08.220 Don't call it a comeback, but it's happening.

00:21:09.920 Yeah, I have some other right answers, just like a couple, but.

00:21:13.520 All right, number 12.

00:21:14.940 This one's on Michael.

00:21:16.660 So what is the largest Catholic church in America?

00:21:20.920 Is it A, oh, man, it's going to be hard to pronounce.

00:21:23.920 A, the Basilica of the National Shrine of the Immaculate Conception.

00:21:28.420 B, Cathedral of Our Lady of the Angels.

00:21:31.000 C, Cathedral Basilica of the Sacred Heart.

00:21:34.520 D, Cathedral Basilica of St. Louis.

00:21:38.280 Wow, I would have said like St. Pat's or something, so I actually don't.

00:21:41.820 This is in the United States.

00:21:42.260 So you're talking about the building.

00:21:44.020 Yes, largest building.

00:21:47.740 Say it one more time.

00:21:49.760 Sure, Michael, for you, I'll go through this again.

00:21:51.520 A, Basilica of the National Shrine of the Immaculate Conception.

00:21:57.160 B, Cathedral of Our Lady of the Angels.

00:21:59.840 C, Cathedral Basilica of the Sacred Heart.

00:22:02.860 D, Cathedral Basilica of St. Louis.

00:22:05.680 Okay, I think it's got to be the Cathedral of Our Lady of the Angels.

00:22:12.680 Unless it's, Cathedral Basilica is like a cathedral that also has a basilica or that is a basilica.

00:22:20.220 You don't know the answer.

00:22:20.800 I don't know what those words are.

00:22:21.920 I don't know.

00:22:22.400 Cathedral of Our Lady of the Angels.

00:22:23.180 What is the Immaculate Conception, Michael?

00:22:24.580 I have no idea.

00:22:25.220 I just read the 66 books.

00:22:26.380 It's when Our Lady was preserved from the stain of original sin by a singular grace of her son.

00:22:31.100 And the cathedral that we're talking about is, I don't know, I guess I'd say of Our Lady of the Angels.

00:22:37.500 What do you have, Megan?

00:22:38.740 I literally threw, like, a dart at me.

00:22:42.780 There you go.

00:22:43.700 The dart missed and Michael missed.

00:22:45.540 It's the Basilica of the National Shrine of the Immaculate Conception in Washington, D.C.,

00:22:49.020 which covers an area of 77,000 square feet and has a capacity of 10,000 people.

00:22:54.320 Wait, the one I said didn't have immaculate?

00:22:56.600 Which one did I say?

00:22:57.660 What was C?

00:22:58.180 There's a lot of buildings built to marry. 1.00

00:23:00.100 There's, like, four.

00:23:01.260 You guys see the Sacred Heart, the Basilica of the Sacred Heart one.

00:23:04.360 Which is the Sacred Heart of Jesus.

00:23:06.020 I thought my answer had Immaculate Conception in it.

00:23:09.860 Yeah.

00:23:10.280 You said C, though.

00:23:11.420 It was A.

00:23:11.980 It was A.

00:23:12.780 Okay.

00:23:13.380 You want to hear, talk about not fulfilling my duties as a Catholic.

00:23:18.560 I've been to Washington, D.C. a billion times in my life.

00:23:21.440 I've never been to the National Shrine.

00:23:23.920 I was near it one time, and I've never been.

00:23:25.560 I know.

00:23:26.200 Have you been in the second largest, which is the Angels one you guessed?

00:23:29.360 Yeah.

00:23:29.660 Yeah, that's in L.A.?

00:23:31.400 Or no?

00:23:31.900 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:23:32.300 Yeah, I've been to that one.

00:23:33.120 That is truly architecturally a monstrosity.

00:23:36.920 It is one of the ugliest buildings the church has ever made.

00:23:40.540 The bishop, it was Bishop Mahoney who built it, and they call it the Taj Mahoney.

00:23:45.220 There was so much horrific church architecture starting in the 70s, and this is, like, the crown jewel in bad architectural taste.

00:23:54.100 And I can't wait for the church to build a new one.

00:23:56.200 I know it's hard for you to travel all over the world and see the beautiful office buildings erected in respect to the Protestant faith.

00:24:05.840 I know that's difficult for you Catholics, but.

00:24:08.120 There's a nice sort of utilitarian chic to it, you know?

00:24:14.040 Just from the photos I've seen, when we get back to DC, Michael, we should check it out because the building looks spectacular.

00:24:18.400 Yeah, yeah.

00:24:18.880 Number 13, which X-Men character is Catholic, who was also one of the stars of X-Men 2 in 2003, grossing over $400 million?

00:24:28.780 You're saying the actor's Catholic or the character's Catholic?

00:24:30.760 The character's Catholic.

00:24:32.020 And it was pretty overtly Catholic throughout the entire movie.

00:24:34.200 What did I have to do? 0.99

00:24:35.040 I agreed to do a religion face-off, and you're giving me all these stupid comic book movies that I don't know anything about. 0.99

00:24:41.300 Millions of people saw this, Michael. 0.99

00:24:42.840 Like, it's pretty important to know which one of these figures is Catholic.

00:24:45.480 I'm hoping that I just said a name that is actually in this film.

00:24:49.780 X-Men 2 is, sneaky, the best one of the X-Men movies.

00:24:53.500 All right, Michael, what do you have?

00:24:54.460 I said the werewolf Hugh Jackman character.

00:24:57.420 Megan Basham.

00:24:58.980 I put Xavier. Is he a character?

00:25:02.380 Professor X and Wolverine are not correct.

00:25:05.220 It was actually Nightcrawler.

00:25:07.120 He is the opening sequence of the movie where he attacks the president, and he also tries to convert Storm, played by Halle Berry.

00:25:12.820 How could I forget the Nightcrawler?

00:25:14.420 How could I?

00:25:15.620 It was so obvious.

00:25:16.440 It was staring right in front of me.

00:25:17.720 But Dr. X does stand for Xavier?

00:25:21.200 Yes.

00:25:22.160 All right.

00:25:22.640 Nice.

00:25:22.880 Yeah.

00:25:23.340 You got one of the characters correct, for sure.

00:25:25.280 And I couldn't remember the name of the werewolf Hugh Jackman character, but then I was reminded it's Wolverine.

00:25:30.860 Wolverine.

00:25:31.520 Yep.

00:25:31.680 There we are.

00:25:32.240 Okay.

00:25:32.760 All right, here we go.

00:25:33.480 Which major world religion currently has claimed to the tallest religious statue in the world?

00:25:38.740 Is it A, Christ the Redeemer, Christianity? 0.91

00:25:41.980 B, Leikun Sikya, Buddha in Myanmar?

00:25:46.960 C, Spring Temple, Buddha, China?

00:25:51.300 D, Statue of Belief, which is Hindu in India? 0.94

00:25:54.880 Definitely ain't the Buddhas that the Taliban took down. 1.00

00:25:58.480 I'm just going to say I'm going for the home team with Christ the Redeemer.

00:26:03.020 I'm going for the Burmese Buddha.

00:26:05.560 Not that I'm going, I'm not for him, but I'm like, I think that's, I'm going to say that's the big one.

00:26:10.520 All right, Paul, can you scroll for a second because there's two different Buddha ones and I'll make sure you got it right.

00:26:13.400 The Myanmar Buddha.

00:26:14.920 The Myanmar one? 1.00

00:26:15.640 That is incorrect.

00:26:16.940 It is the China Buddha one.

00:26:19.200 Yep.

00:26:19.700 Spring Temple Buddha, China, which stands 420 feet high.

00:26:24.020 That's a big Buddha.

00:26:24.760 How wide is he?

00:26:26.220 Because they're kind of, the Buddhas are kind of plump, you know? 0.98

00:26:28.740 This one's kind of lean.

00:26:29.940 Okay.

00:26:30.900 He's that Siddhartha Gautama.

00:26:31.900 What is the Redeemer?

00:26:33.500 It's not even on the top five.

00:26:35.120 Like these other ones are much bigger.

00:26:36.360 The Hindu one's massive. 1.00

00:26:38.280 Literally this, like yesterday, I saw a picture of a person like next to Christ the Redeemer to show the perspective.

00:26:46.600 And I don't know, it looked pretty big to me.

00:26:48.620 So that stuck in my mind.

00:26:50.240 All right.

00:26:50.520 What is the largest building constructed for worship of any religion in the world?

00:26:54.800 Is it A, St. Peter's Basilica, Vatican City?

00:26:57.260 Is it B, Angkor Wat in Cambodia for Hinduism?

00:27:01.560 C, the Great Mosque of Mecca, Saudi Arabia, Islam.

00:27:05.640 The Java, holy smokes.

00:27:08.880 The Jetavanamaya, Stupa in Sri Lanka for Buddhism.

00:27:13.880 And that's it.

00:27:14.940 Wow.

00:27:15.380 I haven't thought about the Jetavanamaya of Sri Lanka in a long time.

00:27:19.160 These are all very impressive, actually.

00:27:21.740 You want to say them again?

00:27:22.840 I mostly just want to make you say them again.

00:27:24.620 A, St. Peter's Basilica, Vatican City, which is a Christian place.

00:27:29.440 Angkor Wat in Cambodia, Hinduism.

00:27:32.280 The Great Mosque of Mecca, Masajid Al-Kharam, Saudi Arabia, Islam.

00:27:36.760 The Jetavanamaya, Stupa, Sri Lanka of Buddhism.

00:27:44.280 I say it is the Great Mosque. 0.89

00:27:51.820 I also said mosque.

00:27:54.040 It is by far the mosque.

00:27:56.020 You are correct.

00:27:57.280 With 350,000 square meters, not square feet.

00:28:00.960 That's 88 acres.

00:28:01.880 How do you, yeah, how do you translate that into English?

00:28:04.360 It is absurd.

00:28:06.040 Wow.

00:28:06.580 Yeah.

00:28:06.960 I kind of remember the mosques I've seen are gigantic. 0.93

00:28:11.100 Just for reference, too, the second largest, what we would, like the largest Christian one,

00:28:14.820 Vatican City, is approximately 15,000 square meters.

00:28:17.760 Yeah.

00:28:18.260 Yeah.

00:28:18.440 So it's like 3.75 acres.

00:28:21.520 Yeah.

00:28:21.940 Yeah.

00:28:22.300 Wow.

00:28:23.420 All right.

00:28:24.380 What is the oldest standing church in America?

00:28:28.220 A, the Old North Church in Boston.

00:28:30.460 B, San Miguel Mission in New Mexico.

00:28:33.460 C, St. Augustine Church, Florida.

00:28:35.680 D, Jamestown Church, Virginia.

00:28:39.860 Michael's off the races.

00:28:41.860 Well, listen, don't forget, I come from Pilgrim Stock.

00:28:45.620 We named my cigar company Mayflower Cigars.

00:28:50.020 American history is very important to me.

00:28:53.240 Religious history.

00:28:55.540 All right.

00:28:55.960 You ready, Megan?

00:28:56.940 I went with Jamestown.

00:28:58.580 All right.

00:28:59.880 Well, even though I had that little Protestant fake-out about the Mayflower in New England, 0.57

00:29:05.060 I know that it's actually in St. Augustine, Florida.

00:29:09.940 Y'all are both wrong.

00:29:11.300 Y'all are both incorrect.

00:29:14.160 B, it's San Miguel Mission, New Mexico.

00:29:16.760 So the Catholics, actually, it's the oldest standing one. 0.82

00:29:18.720 The first church was originally built in Jamestown in 1607, but then it's no longer standing.

00:29:23.120 What about St. Augustine?

00:29:24.020 The church one is 1610, Michael.

00:29:26.420 1610 in St. Augustine?

00:29:27.620 No, no.

00:29:28.200 1610 was the St. Miguel Church in New Mexico.

00:29:30.920 When was the St. Augustine one built?

00:29:32.840 Standing.

00:29:34.820 I don't know.

00:29:35.840 You don't know?

00:29:36.400 Well, let's Google it.

00:29:37.360 All right.

00:29:37.540 Let's Google it.

00:29:38.120 Let's Google it.

00:29:38.740 Is it still standing?

00:29:40.400 This is poor sportsmanship, Michael.

00:29:42.300 St. Augustine Church.

00:29:44.800 It has to be still a functioning church.

00:29:47.860 Is it still a functioning?

00:29:49.040 Listen to this guy.

00:29:50.220 Yeah, founded on September 8th, 1565.

00:29:55.940 How do you like that?

00:29:58.620 I mean, I don't know why that didn't come up in my research.

00:30:02.140 Yeah, I don't know.

00:30:03.020 But I want my point.

00:30:04.140 So listen, you're going to have to go fact check.

00:30:06.400 You're going to get judges involved and everything.

00:30:08.220 I understand that.

00:30:09.240 But I want this.

00:30:10.020 Yes, it's not for the churches.

00:30:10.820 Yeah, this is, first of all, we need a reliable host of this show who is not going to try to

00:30:17.920 jilt me out of my St. Augustine points.

00:30:20.260 But we're just going to put a, we'll put a pin in here.

00:30:23.400 Because look, maybe you'll say, no, actually it was, you know, mystically transported somewhere

00:30:27.320 else and it's this thing in Mexico or whatever.

00:30:29.080 But I still think there's a good shot at St. Augustine.

00:30:32.680 What's the score currently?

00:30:33.960 Is it going to affect these final standings?

00:30:37.940 It's tight.

00:30:38.700 It's 6-4 right now.

00:30:39.540 So that could matter.

00:30:42.380 It could matter.

00:30:43.040 Let's get the fact checkers in the control room on it right now.

00:30:45.480 Yeah, it needs to be a standing, functioning church, ladies and gentlemen.

00:30:47.920 All right, here we go.

00:30:49.080 Now, next up.

00:30:50.140 In the Jewish faith, the Talmud is studied at a rate of one page per day in a process

00:30:54.980 called the Daf Yomi.

00:30:56.540 How long does it take to complete the entire Talmud?

00:30:59.900 Now, this is answer without going over.

00:31:02.020 In years.

00:31:03.140 Okay, wait.

00:31:03.640 So one page per day.

00:31:06.340 In years.

00:31:07.480 It's studied at, yep, one page per day.

00:31:10.280 So how long does it take to complete?

00:31:14.600 It only took Michael half this amount of time.

00:31:16.760 I don't know.

00:31:17.740 Okay.

00:31:19.500 You're saying it only took me half this amount of time to read the Talmud.

00:31:22.220 Yeah, yeah.

00:31:22.780 Yeah, yeah.

00:31:23.120 Michael already wrote something?

00:31:26.660 He's a scholar of the Talmud.

00:31:28.420 No, I just, I'm from New York and I know a lot of Jews.

00:31:30.660 It's basically my, the reason.

00:31:32.280 Even though what's funny, most of the, virtually all the Jews I knew growing up probably never 1.00

00:31:36.240 read a single letter of the Talmud because it's all the Orthodox in Brooklyn that do it. 1.00

00:31:39.820 But I think I'm right on this.

00:31:41.960 Is it seven years?

00:31:43.360 I wrote five.

00:31:44.600 It is seven and a half years.

00:31:47.180 I thought it was seven and a half, but I didn't want to go over.

00:31:48.900 All right.

00:31:49.260 Yeah.

00:31:49.440 I'll take it.

00:31:49.980 Wow, that's really impressive, Michael.

00:31:51.300 Even to keep yourself safe from the going over.

00:31:53.480 I know a lot of Jews, my friend.

00:31:56.600 That's, you know, New York, L.A.

00:32:00.120 I mean, I don't know.

00:32:01.920 I'm trying to think the first time I met a non-Jew in my life.

00:32:06.500 All right, here we go.

00:32:07.520 Next one.

00:32:08.040 And how old was Aisha, the wife of the Prophet Muhammad, when they were married?

00:32:13.160 This is the closest without going over.

00:32:14.860 You're trying to get a shot, Ben?

00:32:16.680 Is that weird?

00:32:18.040 I don't know if this is when they were married.

00:32:20.720 Not to be confused when their marriage was consummated.

00:32:23.880 I went with nine.

00:32:25.760 I, too, went with nine.

00:32:28.220 The answer is six years old.

00:32:30.140 Six.

00:32:30.560 I almost said six.

00:32:31.520 Yep.

00:32:31.900 And then the marriage was consummated at nine.

00:32:33.960 Yep.

00:32:34.700 All right.

00:32:35.500 On that happy note, next one.

00:32:39.000 When was the Bible with the 66 books proposed, which is recognized by most Protestant denominations today?

00:32:46.740 Is it A, 325 A.D. at the Council of Nicaea?

00:32:50.680 B, 367 A.D. by Antithos of Alexandria?

00:32:55.220 C, 1536 A.D. during the Reformation?

00:32:58.500 Or D, 1647 A.D. after the Westminster Assembly?

00:33:03.200 You're saying proposed.

00:33:05.400 You mean formally proposed?

00:33:07.040 It was proposed that these should be canonized.

00:33:10.720 But even at the councils that actually canonized the Bible, they would have been, even with the 73 books, those 66 would have been proposed.

00:33:20.840 So it would be inclusive of the 66.

00:33:22.920 So you're saying, when was it?

00:33:25.160 It was first brought up of these specific 66 books.

00:33:27.660 But they were brought up in the ancient councils as well as the modern.

00:33:32.940 It could be pretty ancient.

00:33:35.320 There's been a lot of different councils.

00:33:36.900 There's been years where there's more or less books also recognized in the Catholic Church.

00:33:40.560 When was the 66 books?

00:33:41.840 I don't know.

00:33:42.640 I feel like this is a trick question.

00:33:44.080 I just went with Nicaea.

00:33:45.780 Yeah, this is going to be a trick question because it's going to rely on, like, you know, Bishop Billy suggested this as an idea.

00:33:57.040 And even if it was rejected by the council, you could still say, well, it was proposed at some ancient council.

00:34:02.360 But I'm going to go with a post-reformation event.

00:34:06.320 I'm going to say 1536.

00:34:07.780 The answer is B, 367 AD by Anathias of Alexandria.

00:34:11.980 In 367 AD, he listed the 66 books in his Festile Letter, which corresponds to the canon recognized by the most Protestant denominations today.

00:34:19.440 This occurred 15 years before the Council of Rome in 382, where Pope Demius I proposed these 72 books of the Catholic Bible.

00:34:27.600 This was later affirmed.

00:34:28.400 This is Bishop Billy stuff because you're literally saying, like, some guy wrote it in a letter.

00:34:33.640 But, okay, we're not talking about councils or synods.

00:34:36.340 That's fine.

00:34:36.760 Some guy wrote it in a letter.

00:34:37.740 Okay, that's fine.

00:34:38.160 We may not be ready for that answer, but neither one of you got it.

00:34:41.300 So, currently, Michael Knowles is your champion.

00:34:45.620 Oh, it's over.

00:34:46.540 I won.

00:34:47.080 That is the last one.

00:34:48.940 Oh, all right.

00:34:49.740 Last question.

00:34:51.640 However, there is always a chance on the Michael Knowles show, which means there is a bonus question

00:34:56.780 where you can go all in, double or nothing, on one more question that I hope is very neutral to both parties here

00:35:04.260 of being a mackerel-snapping papist and being a radical evangelical person like Megan Basham.

00:35:11.880 Okay, hold on.

00:35:12.780 I, so I have no incentive whatsoever to wager my winnings because I've already won.

00:35:19.980 You have the incentive of a great time, Michael, and you'll get to hear this question, and the audience will get to guess along with you.

00:35:25.760 Can I hear the question even if I just keep my win?

00:35:27.960 No.

00:35:28.780 No, I can't.

00:35:29.660 Okay.

00:35:31.360 Because in the past, you've let me do that sometimes, but you're not letting me do that this time.

00:35:35.760 Not this time, Michael.

00:35:36.720 You've been freeloading for too long, all right?

00:35:38.960 We're going to keep it serious.

00:35:40.160 I want to hear the question.

00:35:41.020 I want to hear the question.

00:35:42.620 So maybe this didn't work out the last time I did one of these, but let's do it.

00:35:47.880 Oh, has everybody dialed in?

00:35:49.560 Are you ready, Megan?

00:35:50.760 I'm ready.

00:35:51.780 This is the final question, double or nothing.

00:35:54.380 Here it goes.

00:35:55.660 St. Thomas traveled from Jerusalem to what is now Shani, formerly Madras, India, where he was martyred around 72 AD.

00:36:05.120 Now, how many miles did St. Thomas travel to accomplish this?

00:36:08.600 How many miles is that from Jerusalem to where he's martyred in India?

00:36:13.960 I was just right across the little tip of India from where St. Thomas, I think actually St. Thomas, I thought he was martyred in Kerala and then is buried in Chennai.

00:36:24.120 I do too.

00:36:24.840 Yeah, I think Mr. Davies is wrong here.

00:36:28.040 But nevertheless, I made this journey back in December for my buddy's wedding that was down in Kerala.

00:36:35.440 Now, this will be miles without going over.

00:36:38.860 This is as the crow flies or this is his actual journey?

00:36:43.900 Because there's a difference.

00:36:45.260 Right.

00:36:45.420 Because he shipwrecked in Socotra.

00:36:47.600 This is, I just had to, I just had to Google these two locations and like how many miles is in between these.

00:36:53.200 As the crow flies.

00:36:53.820 Yeah, because like, I don't know if he, as if you do walk, you go by ship or something.

00:36:56.600 I, you know, couldn't.

00:36:57.500 Yeah, I don't think he walked.

00:36:58.620 He would have leg pains if he had walked it.

00:37:01.000 I did look up how many, how long it would take to walk this and it's not as long as you think, actually.

00:37:04.280 But how many miles?

00:37:07.120 Okay.

00:37:10.240 I have zero idea.

00:37:14.320 I'm saying 10,000 miles because of that song.

00:37:17.520 And that's really the only reason.

00:37:19.340 Because I feel that St. Thomas would walk 10,000 miles and walk 10,000 more.

00:37:25.460 And he would walk 10,000 more.

00:37:29.300 I'm going to say, even though I think it's more than this, I'm saying 3,500 miles.

00:37:34.280 The answer is 5,500 miles.

00:37:37.540 Let's go!

00:37:38.140 Based on Google, Michael Knowles is still your champion, ladies and gentlemen.

00:37:41.180 Well.

00:37:41.440 I felt it.

00:37:42.820 Thank you.

00:37:43.880 Thank you very much.

00:37:44.900 I, I had a lot riding on this because St. Thomas is my confirmation saint.

00:37:51.060 And because I was a punk, like atheist, 13-year-old when I got confirmed, I, in retrospect, I don't even really know if I was thinking of Thomas the Apostle or St. Thomas Aquinas.

00:38:01.440 But Thomas means twins, so there's something kind of fitting about that. 0.96

00:38:06.060 But had I blown it, having just been in this place like eight months ago, I would feel like a big jerk. 0.97

00:38:12.220 So that's really great. 0.84

00:38:13.780 And Ben, I'm glad that your questions really excluded our friend Megan's expertise for her best-selling book and made it about a bunch of weird Muslim stuff. 1.00

00:38:24.640 That's great.

00:38:24.980 What I wrote about was in there, but, but I also feel that, um, that this was rather elitist, and I'm going to tell you why.

00:38:33.460 Because Michael is such a world traveler.

00:38:36.260 Stop it.

00:38:36.380 And I did happen to note that his world travels very much played into his expertise on some of these things.

00:38:43.060 So clearly, I need more time off and a larger salary so that I can do more traveling.

00:38:49.060 That's all I'm going to say.

00:38:50.120 The real trick I have found, a great way to accommodate world travel, is just convince Daily Wire you've got to, like, get important content or whatever, you know, in, like, Timbuktu.

00:38:59.940 And then you never have to release the stuff.

00:39:01.980 You just get a nice vacation from the company.

00:39:04.100 That's the key.

00:39:04.740 I need to work on my scamming skills, so that's what I learned here today.

00:39:09.600 Modern problems, modern solutions.

00:39:11.920 We can't help Michael's salary today, though, by giving him a 30-second commercial for why people should watch The Michael Knowles Show.

00:39:18.300 Megan, please take it away.

00:39:19.840 Well, you know, despite Michael's deficient religious education in knowing that St. Augustine was not the oldest church in America,

00:39:29.780 I think we can say that he clearly needs that kind of audience to support him so that he's able to rush up and bone up on some of his religious bona fides.

00:39:43.460 But he is a gentleman and a scholar, and we want him to continue being a scholar.

00:39:48.180 So I encourage everyone to throw poor Michael Knowles a bone, watch his show every now and again.

00:39:56.180 That was beautiful.

00:39:57.460 That was great.

00:39:58.380 Thank you.

00:39:58.880 And, you know, I wouldn't want to violate having won by doing a plug for Meg's show and writing and all that stuff.

00:40:09.940 But since it's not in the rules of it, I can plug the book, Shepherds for Sale.

00:40:16.500 If you don't have this book yet, you're one of the few people in America that does not have this book yet.

00:40:21.040 A runaway bestseller.

00:40:22.940 Even the New York Times was forced to acknowledge it, which is quite a feat. 0.81

00:40:26.380 So go get it.

00:40:27.040 Go get Shepherds for Sale.

00:40:28.100 And as for Ben Davies, don't find him anywhere.

00:40:31.220 Don't look him up anywhere, ever.

00:40:34.240 Well, there you have it.

00:40:35.220 Thank you, Michael, so much for that outro.

00:40:37.040 And if you haven't already, like he said, get your copy of Shepherds for Sale, How the Evangelical Church Leaders Traded Truth for Leftist Agenda.

00:40:43.780 And you can get that wherever books are sold.

00:40:45.700 Now, please let us know in the comments section who you'd like to see and what topic to cover in the next episode of Face Off.

00:40:51.420 Folks, did you like that charming little game?

00:40:53.960 Well, if you want to get more charm, wit, wisdom, a beautiful jawline, sultry, smooth, dulcet tones, as well as insight into the news and politics and culture and everything, you've got to tune into the Michael Knowles Show.

00:41:10.440 So, that's my daily show every single day.

00:41:13.980 That's how daily shows work.

00:41:15.140 It's at the Daily Wire.

00:41:15.940 It's here on YouTube.

00:41:18.000 It's on the radio.

00:41:19.140 It's everywhere, man.

00:41:20.500 Make sure you listen to it.

00:41:21.760 See you next time.

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The Michael Knowles Show - September 21, 2024

Religion FACE-OFF： Michael Knowles Vs Megan Basham

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