The Epstein Files： Benny Johnson Vs Michael Knowles ｜ FACE OFF
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Benny Johnson and Michael Knoll are the only two of the only people not mentioned in the 3 million-plus documents found in the Epstein files, and they're here to tell you why. Plus, what color dress was Bill Clinton wearing in the oil painting seized from Jeffrey Epstein's New York mansion?
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because technically I trafficked women for Jeffrey Epstein to less...
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Today, we're diving into one of the most discussed topics on the internet.
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and the unbelievably sus timing when Jeffrey Epstein allegedly unliked himself.
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Our guests are also two of the only people not mentioned in the three million-plus documents.
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In one corner, a man who never went to the island because it would have been a mortal sin.
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In the other corner, a man who never attended a Diddy Whiteout party
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because he wouldn't be able to wear a black t-shirt.
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Each host will have 30 seconds to scribble down their answer,
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and the loser will have to give a glowing 30-second read for the winner.
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Well, gentlemen, I would ask what you did to prepare for this,
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The FBI briefing document notes my interview with Kash Patel in 2023
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And so it says, The Benny Show, Far Right Podcaster.
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This is the FBI's internal memo to their top leadership.
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So my name does appear technically in the files as a Newsweek write-up.
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All right, if we're making confessions and stuff like that,
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I guess I should also point out my name technically appears in the files
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because technically I trafficked women for Jeffrey Epstein
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I try to know more about things than you do, Mr. Davies.
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I know that I came here with my suspicions that Michael was a trafficker for Mossad.
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Well, that may come up in a question later, but it's not the first one.
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The first question is, what color dress was Bill Clinton wearing in the oil painting seized
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You were barely a glint in your father's eye when the Lewinsky scandal happened.
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But I do want to give whoever knows the name of the painting the actual point.
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For creativity, I think we should give you that.
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But no, the name of the painting is Parsing Bill.
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Paraphrasing Joe Rogan here, that is the I gotcha bitch.
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Like, I think it's amazing what's happening right now.
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Because Hillary Clinton's finally getting asked questions about this.
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And there's photos of him with trafficked women who are naked in a hot tub.
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So this is like the Clinton version of philanthropy.
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It's a little more like billionthrophy is what I think it is.
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And nobody asked her any questions about Jeffrey Epstein.
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She's just now getting asked on the record about Jeffrey Epstein.
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These are the first times Hillary Clinton has been in the public eye for 50 years.
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Well, she wiped all those emails off her server.
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She didn't wipe them off his server is the problem.
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If only we had the emails, we could do a whole other show just on the Clinton files.
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What object was reportedly hanging from the ceiling inside Epstein's mansion that raised eyebrows?
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Did he have a bride hanging from his chandelier?
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It was a human-sized bride doll hanging from a chandelier.
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I just copied Benny, but at least we'll get the same number of points.
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Benny, just keep it in the holster until we're ready to fire here, okay?
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Hey, this is good advice you could have given to Clinton in 1996.
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Documents released this year revealed that Jeffrey Epstein was permanently banned from online gaming
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It's kind of like an online gaming service, but, like, the system works.
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The more current rumor is about Fortnite and the gamer tag, but they're disputing that.
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Yeah, I thought it was the Fortnite thing at first, so I'm glad you clarified.
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Michael knows a lot about these emails all of a sudden.
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I thought there were still, like, millions unreleased.
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In a note reportedly found in his jail cell, where he complained about giant bugs crawling
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on him, being served burnt food, and being locked naked in a shower for hours, how did
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Wait, so Michael guessed the points when he read off my board?
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You want me to read through them again, or do you have your answers?
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I've read a lot of Epstein emails, so that sounded more like, it's not fun.
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I tried to do cursive, like really good cursive would look like this, but instead it kind
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of just, it kind of came out like, it kind of came out like that.
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My three-year-old's learning her letters, and she does better alphabet letters than that.
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The fun thing with the no fun email, it was no fun with two exclamation points as well.
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Actually, Trump tweets are good, like a great example of the greater overall point, which
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is like, you read through these Jeffrey Epstein emails, and you're like, these people run
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They can't, they can't even write like basic, they can't write basic sentences.
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And they're like, they're like typing down all their crimes.
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The more, the more like high status people get, the more, I think it's almost intentional
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Oh, I don't even, I don't even want to check my, I don't even need to use the proper number
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So Whoopi Goldberg, I just read through the Whoopi Goldberg emails, which are so funny.
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So Whoopi Goldberg gets down on her knees and begs Jeffrey Epstein for his jet.
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I need to go to Monaco, which is a $50,000, $100,000 jet trip.
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And Jeffrey Epstein's response to her is, uh, he goes, no, thanks, but he misspells
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So he can't even like turn down Whoopi Goldberg.
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So Whoopi Goldberg is the only person that was too slimy and too repulsive for Jeffrey
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And you know, you, you would think with some of the conspiracy theories, Whoopi Goldberg
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I'm saying that you would, according to the theory, you would think Whoopi Goldberg could,
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but she can't because it's not even, she's not really, even really a Goldberg.
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Speaking of people who Jeffrey actually did like, who was reportedly in line to inherit
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Is it A, Ghislaine Maxwell, B, an unnamed son, C, surviving parents, or D, a Belarusian
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That, that looks like kind of like a, like an Egyptian boat, like from the, you know,
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Pharisees or like, sorry, not Pharisees, like the pharaohs.
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Like kind of like a Viking ship, like with sails.
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How large was the diamond ring Epstein reportedly gave Kirian Schultzlik through the 1953 trust
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Now this is the closest without going over with carrots.
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How many carrots is this diamond ring closest without going over?
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Just two days before he allegedly unaligned himself.
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I thought it was going to be 20 and I wanted to give myself a little wiggle.
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You know, and he was just about to get married.
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Those two young kids, you know, are like a bad term for the Epstein files.
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But like those two, that young couple, they had their whole lives ahead of them, struck
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That's what most people say about the Epstein files.
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According to prediction market Kalshi, what was the percentage chance that Gisling Maxwell
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It's 27%, according to Kalshi, chance that she has to get out.
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I thought you were going to change it, you know.
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So she's going to eventually get out, you know, I guess, like, what's the list, you know?
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I doubt they'll ever let her be a free person again.
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You just wonder if they were, look, maybe, the thing is, when we say that Epstein belonged
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to intelligence or had some, obviously, he did have relationships to, like, every intelligence
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But I don't think he was, like, super spy Jeffrey.
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He was, like, a triple agent or something like that.
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You would just think, if these agencies were as powerful as they are, like, one of them
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Maxwell's dad got, like, a state funeral in Israel.
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He was, like, a totally MSAD agent, like, for sure.
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He did, like, arms deals all throughout Europe.
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The dude, when he died, when he died, like, the entire Israeli government showed up and
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I mean, that dude was, like, for sure a Mossad.
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For me, maybe they'll toast one glass of Manischewitz, but I don't think...
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My new favorite conspiracy theory, it's not really a conspiracy theory, they're all just
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theories at this point, and the conspiracy theorists are up, like, 1,000 to zero, is
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that, you know, Jelaine Maxwell was swapped out, because the most recent video of her and
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And everyone's saying, like, it's a different nose, different eyes, different ears, and
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Man, you know, so I've had some tough jobs in my life, but imagine being...
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You have to really screw up in, like, you know, high school classes to end up with that
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It's hard to believe the photos, too, because I fell for the Epstein and Israel Fortnite photos
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Yeah, these are AI pictures of, like, it's, like, Epstein wearing Groucho glasses.
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He speculated online to reference in certain email discussions what was that codename
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For example, JoJo is here and will walk the jerky over to Jeffrey.
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So, that's, like, such a grosser way to put it.
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Man, you know, maybe I'm too naive or something.
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But, like, obviously, like, Epstein was up to some pretty, like, demonic stuff.
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It's just, like, really bizarre reaction when Steve Bannon asks him in this interview.
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Like, what do you have to do with me, Jesus of Nazareth?
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But some of this stuff where they're, like, they're eating babies or whatever, I just don't
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Kind of depends on how far you want to go into the occult rituals.
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But child and human sacrifice is obviously woven into occult practices since the dawn
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And so, if you assume that they're occultists, which I do, the reason why is that they treat
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So, this is what they were doing with these women.
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This is what they were doing with these children.
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And so, when you go that far down the pathway and you look at some of the art, you look
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at, like, what they were painting, you look at visualizations, you just have to assume
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I honestly, Michael, don't think that was the full op.
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I think that the full op was actually being a fixer, right?
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Between government entities and, like, get, like, a dark arts, like a mafia-style, like,
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Between, like, I needed to get a dirty job done.
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Like, everyone who has a filthy, dirty job, they would go to Epstein.
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He was known as a guy who could just, like, you know, take care of this stuff.
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But as, but in order to facilitate business with these, you know, with people who are
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under mass surveillance or billionaires who can't just go, Bill Gates can't just go to
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a bar, right, and pick up a chick, he had the island with the women.
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He had the plane with the women because he knew that's something that's, like, a lot of,
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The real business was, like, being a government facilitator between the public and the private
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He was, like, that, you know, that glue in between those spaces.
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That's why when people say, like, well, did he work for the CIA or Mossad or KGB or FSB
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or MI6 or this or the Arabs or this or that, I think, like, no, like, probably no, except
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Incidentally, like, yes, I got, yeah, he was, like, a shady dude who just kind of made stuff
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I know guys who kind of move in between the darker spaces and the more public square, but
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I think he was just that at the very highest level.
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Like, just think of the highest level lobbyist, crook, dodgy, money launderer, pimp, weird,
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like, just, like, the highest level of that was this guy.
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So, yeah, to your point, yeah, when people sin a lot, they do, they're touching on the
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occult in that they're dealing with, like, very dark spiritual forces.
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And so, yeah, okay, if something like that did happen, yeah, I think it was probably incidental
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Yeah, I mean, again, there's no doubt that there are sort of through lines for this.
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There's one email where he's talking about, like, a girl praying to Jesus Christ, right?
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And then being, and then being, I mean, it's totally, it's totally evil, it's demonic.
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You would never, ever be able to do these kind of things, you know, unless you had some
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type of, you know, the spiritual lens is the only way to actually truly see through
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this. So, yeah, I think that it is, I mean, obviously, Michael, I think that it is, like,
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a little, you know, it's a little bit, you know, it's a little, it's clearly code for
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You know, nobody, these people have private chefs, they're the best chefs in the world,
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they're all billionaires, nobody ever talks about food this way, nobody ever mentions
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And it's mentioned in, like, such strange, such peculiar ways.
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It's mentioned in a way that even if you were physically carrying beef jerky, you would
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Because you know what I had for dinner last night?
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I've been a Good Ranchers fan for many years now with their New York Strip and their ribeye
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and the best burgers you've ever had in your life.
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And the non-red meat stuff is very good, too, but I'm more a red meat guy.
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The quality, it's American, so it's not injected with a bunch of weird stuff.
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You know, these are very serious guys who know what they're doing.
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I actually had a little bit more than a filet mignon.
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Yeah, well, fortunately, it didn't end up very well for Jeffrey.
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What constant noise reportedly drove Epstein to sit in his cell with his hands covering his ears?
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What was that noise that was always happening in prison?
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Oh, Michael might actually win the speed round here.
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I thought he was beating me by more, and so I went just for the joke.
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I assume there's like a bunch of laundry by his cell, according to the schematics of the prison.
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So I assume maybe it's like the washing machine running all the time.
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Reportedly, it was a constantly running broken toilet.
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Well, if neither of us gets it, then I feel better about writing Nickelback.
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Was there any, like any photographs or anything?
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How long did the guards reportedly fail to check in on Epstein the night he died?
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Who were subsequently moved out of the facility as quickly as possible, given promotions.
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Was he one of those guys you may have in person, it's suspiciously tall, you know?
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Chat GPT is saying the guards were asleep for eight hours, but clearly chat's messing up.
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I'm just making a guess based on a bunch of photos.
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You know, you've seen photos of him with Clinton.
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Trump is six, three, six, two, six, three, something like that.
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So, yeah, I'm kind of basing it on the Trump one.
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And I don't remember Bannon being particularly short, but they're like the same height, right?
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I don't trust Davies' grok or whatever he's doing, Gemini.
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Like, there's no way because he's pretty close to the height.
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We all agree Elon is right about at least 80% of things.
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Give me the accurate answer, not Mr. Davies' nonsense.
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CBS, 60 Minutes, said that he was six foot six.
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I'm getting so many conflicting reports that I think we just got to wash that question.
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Like, there's so many different heights that it's showing.
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I feel like you're robbing it from Benny, but I'll take it.
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Dude, how many times have you ever met someone who was actually six feet?
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There's photos of him relatively, like, not looking like a midget next to Trump.
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You know, he doesn't look, he's shorter than them, but he's only a midget next to them.
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He's notably shorter, but he's not, yeah, he's not 5'7".
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5'7", would be very, would be considerably shorter.
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So you guys want to just wash this question out, or do you want to go with one of these
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I want to get a better producer who can look up the answers first.
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According to the autopsy, nearly six feet, 185 pounds.
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A gold-plated picture frame is not only not luxurious, you can get one for like $11 at
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What extravagant gift did a former Obama White House counsel think, quote, Uncle Jeffrey
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I just got a text that Benny's running away with this, so Michael, you better get this
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It was shoes and a watch and a bunch of other stuff, but yeah, purse was in there for sure.
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He had like a nice, like you'd think it'd be a nice, I saw this on some forum or like
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It, he, Jeffrey Epstein, the man with an island, had a total knockoff Vacheron Constantin watch.
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He's a, he was a dirty, cheap, you know, ski stack.
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I'm sure you'd think he might have been a swindler.
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He tipped his, yeah, I mean like, it is amazing, it is amazing how these things, you know, it
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was amazing how like you can tell, you just like, show me somebody's, show me somebody's
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like tip, history on Uber Eats and I'll like tell you so much about like who they are as
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Especially when they're ordering a lot of beef jerky.
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So he's, so he's, he was tipping like his DoorDash people like two bucks in the rain
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You know, you can make someone's day, tip them a thousand dollars or whatever.
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No, it's like, it's, it's amazing how, it's amazing how these people, that Ronald Dahl is
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And it's like, if you're ugly on the inside, it'll always manifest on the outside.
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And so it doesn't matter how beautiful you are, how beautiful you start off with, like
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you're, you're like, you know, like horrible, twisted, warped people.
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There's always something that they're doing on the outside that shows you how sick they
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And that like, when I saw it, like a DoorDash gets a $2 tip from this billionaire.
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No, that's why I try to treat ugly people as poorly as I can, because I assume it speaks
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Speaking of gross people, in a 2016 letter written for Jeffrey Epstein's 63rd birthday,
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what did director Woody Allen say dinners at Epstein's home reminded him of?
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Was it A, a White House state dining room, B, a Renaissance court, C, Dracula's castle,
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I thought it would be either Bond or Renaissance court.
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Like, leave it to the artistes to actually come up with the correct framing for all of this.
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Is it because they literally drank the blood of young women?
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So the weird thing about this, Alex Jones was on my show the other day,
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You know, like, in the middle of an answer, Alex Jones will just, like, yell Dracula,
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And I'm like, where are you going with this, Alex?
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And he's like, well, that's the point about Epstein, is that vampires.
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And he goes, well, if you actually go back to Dracula, and the real Dracula,
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inside of the, you know, inside of the Romanian, you know, Transylvania is in Romania,
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and you go back and you trace his lineage, it actually has direct ties to the current
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And that's why Prince Andrew was so interested in Epstein.
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So these are just, these are just literal white walkers among us.
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And these are just vampires living out their vampire.
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Who feed on the blood of young blonde women and on beef jerky.
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Epstein donated money to which prestigious university after his conviction?
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The one I was thinking about isn't in the list.
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They never, they made a lot of missteps over the years.
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They never took money from the creepy island pedo billionaire super spy.
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What is the name of the 72-acre New Mexico property purchased by Epstein in 1998, which is reportedly being turned into a luxury resort?
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But do you know the name of the ranch, Michael?
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Okay, so, you know, Reagan's ranch in California is called the Rancho del Cielo, and so I suggested Jeffrey Epstein's was Rancho del Hello.
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Number 16, what is the name of the larger neighboring island Epstein also purchased?
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Is it A, Great St. Thomas, B, St. Croix West, C, Great St. James, D, St. Andrew Kay?
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There are these YouTubers, Tyler Oliveira, Luke Rudowski.
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They're great, and they've, like, went and broke into the island.
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Not while Jeffrey Epstein was in charge of it, but, like, soon after.
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The temple was all boarded up, which I thought was very interesting.
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I heard it was, like, a piano room or something.
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I said St. Andrew Kay, because I thought the Prince Andrew thing would be a funny tie-in.
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The correct answer is C, Great St. James, the island next to it, at the time of his death.
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I assumed if there's a little St. James, there's, like, the way that the nomenclature works back in the day.
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Like, I assumed there would be, like, there's a New York, right?
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There's going to be big and little, and they weren't really that.
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What I don't get, though, why would you, if your main island is little St. James, and it's off the coast of St. Thomas,
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if your main island is little St. James, why would you then buy big St. James and not just upgrade to that one?
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Like, why would you say, like, oh, I only own little St. James when you got the big Magilla?
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They are turning into a luxury resort, which is wild, almost as wild as how much Benny won by in this game.
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So, Benny, since this is a gentleman's sport, this doesn't have to end here.
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One last bonus question, only if you want to, because you've already kind of taken away the lead here.
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At the time of his death in 2019, what was Jeffrey Epstein's reported net worth?
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Bro, if he ends this game at 18 to nothing, that's going to be so sad.
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And this was the federal prosecutors, what they cited.
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At the time of his death, what was his net worth?
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The correct answer, according to federal prosecutors cited, the net worth of roughly $577 million in court filings in July 2019.
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And then a fluke bonus question gets me my points.
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But yeah, I should have given you a heads up that Michael has won so many of these games on the last bonus question.
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So, Benny, will you please, we'll start a clock.
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Will you please give us a 30-second commercial for why people should tune in to The Michael Knowles Show?
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The Michael Knowles Show, ladies and gentlemen, brought to you by The Daily Wire and Mayflower Cigars.
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Mayflower Cigars best enjoyed outside of the vice president's house after a couple of hard, strong bourbon drinks.
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And the vice president's staff yelling at us to get out and to not smoke so close to the home because there are children there.
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And that, ladies and gentlemen, is why you should be watching The Michael Knowles Show.
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No other show will put some of the most Secret Service protected children in the country at risk.
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And in the theme of the show, that is, of course, the greatest endorsement.
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Not only did you pitch the show, you also pitched Mayflower.
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And it's true, the hour was late, some drinks had been had, people had left.
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And then Benny was like, hey, Knowles, I'm not leaving without a cigar.
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And I said, well, I actually don't think you're allowed to smoke at the vice president's house.
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And then he cajoles a staff member to let us do it.
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If I were Secret Service, I would have shot us that day.
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We lit the cigars with like the little miniature like votive Christmas candles that they had like sitting there for decoration.
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We actually swiped a couple of them because nobody had a lighter.
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