The Michael Knowles Show - The Epstein Files： Benny Johnson Vs Michael Knowles ｜ FACE OFF

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00:00:32.160 I am in the Epstein list.

00:00:33.740 No, you're not. Are you?

00:00:34.920 I have to break this to your audience.

00:00:36.500 I'm in the files. I'm in it.

00:00:38.280 My name technically appears in the files

00:00:41.240 because technically I trafficked women for Jeffrey Epstein to less...

00:00:45.760 Today, we're diving into one of the most discussed topics on the internet.

00:00:50.040 We're talking email, the testimony,

00:00:51.940 and the unbelievably sus timing when Jeffrey Epstein allegedly unliked himself.

00:00:56.040 Our guests are also two of the only people not mentioned in the three million-plus documents.

00:01:00.720 In one corner, a man who never went to the island because it would have been a mortal sin.

00:01:05.860 The sin of taking a vacation day.

00:01:07.500 Michael Knoll.

00:01:08.500 In the other corner, a man who never attended a Diddy Whiteout party

00:01:11.760 because he wouldn't be able to wear a black t-shirt.

00:01:14.200 Benny Johnson.

00:01:14.720 Wait. Hold on. What?

00:01:16.660 This is face-off Epstein file.

00:01:21.160 I will read a question.

00:01:23.340 Each host will have 30 seconds to scribble down their answer,

00:01:25.800 and the loser will have to give a glowing 30-second read for the winner.

00:01:30.000 Well, gentlemen, I would ask what you did to prepare for this,

00:01:32.480 and clearly y'all are no more of it than I do.

00:01:35.680 I have to break this to your audience.

00:01:37.260 I'm in the files. I'm in it.

00:01:38.860 No, you're not. Are you?

00:01:39.700 The FBI briefing document notes my interview with Kash Patel in 2023

00:01:46.820 talking about the Epstein files.

00:01:49.140 And so it says, The Benny Show, Far Right Podcaster.

00:01:52.060 This is the FBI's internal memo to their top leadership.

00:01:56.040 So my name does appear technically in the files as a Newsweek write-up.

00:02:01.660 All right, if we're making confessions and stuff like that,

00:02:03.920 I guess I should also point out my name technically appears in the files

00:02:09.060 because technically I trafficked women for Jeffrey Epstein

00:02:14.700 to Les Wexner on behalf of Mossad.

00:02:17.220 Okay.

00:02:18.400 But it's a technicality.

00:02:21.100 That would be on brand, actually, here.

00:02:24.960 So great.

00:02:25.880 This is not a joking matter, Mr. Davies.

00:02:28.660 Can you cut it out with the jokes?

00:02:30.660 How many emails did you read?

00:02:31.620 I try to know more about things than you do, Mr. Davies.

00:02:35.480 But I've read like three emails.

00:02:37.060 I haven't dug in a lot.

00:02:40.540 I know that I came here with my suspicions that Michael was a trafficker for Mossad.

00:02:49.020 And now they've been confirmed.

00:02:50.580 They've been confirmed.

00:02:51.000 So that's awesome.

00:02:51.440 So we can just go home from now.

00:02:52.320 This was actually the point.

00:02:53.380 Yeah.

00:02:53.840 So, yeah.

00:02:55.500 Well, that may come up in a question later, but it's not the first one.

00:02:58.600 The first question is, what color dress was Bill Clinton wearing in the oil painting seized

00:03:04.220 from Jeffrey Epstein's New York mansion?

00:03:07.760 30 seconds.

00:03:13.500 Wait, don't show them yet, Benny.

00:03:15.120 I showed it.

00:03:15.680 I showed it.

00:03:16.540 Too late.

00:03:17.200 It's blue.

00:03:18.460 It is blue.

00:03:19.540 Nice warm-up question.

00:03:21.360 Do you know why it's blue, Mr. Davies?

00:03:22.820 That's easy, dude.

00:03:23.860 I do.

00:03:24.140 That's easy.

00:03:24.700 Why is it blue?

00:03:25.680 Why don't you give us the lore, Michael?

00:03:27.040 Why?

00:03:27.400 No, you tell me.

00:03:28.120 Do you know why it's blue?

00:03:28.920 Monica Lewinsky's dress.

00:03:29.860 Because of Lewinsky.

00:03:30.560 I didn't know if you'd...

00:03:31.180 I didn't know.

00:03:31.560 You're young.

00:03:32.360 You're young.

00:03:32.980 You were barely a glint in your father's eye when the Lewinsky scandal happened.

00:03:36.160 We're the same age.

00:03:37.040 Well, that's true.

00:03:38.020 Wait, go ahead.

00:03:38.840 Because I do...

00:03:39.700 I figured both you guys would know this.

00:03:41.280 Well, there was plenty of...

00:03:42.600 There was plenty of glint on that dress. 0.86

00:03:45.200 Okay.

00:03:45.980 From the dry cleaner.

00:03:47.960 It was covered...

00:03:49.080 It splattered, actually, in glints.

00:03:50.600 Yeah.

00:03:51.340 That's...

00:03:51.620 Well, that's how he got impeached.

00:03:52.860 That's...

00:03:53.140 Yeah.

00:03:53.360 That's how they proved it.

00:03:54.340 That's right.

00:03:54.820 And censored.

00:03:55.840 But I do want to give whoever knows the name of the painting the actual point.

00:04:00.520 I figured you both get blue.

00:04:01.860 What is the name of the painting?

00:04:05.880 Is this like a famous painter?

00:04:07.700 I mean, I knew he had it commissioned, but...

00:04:09.620 I think Benny's scribbling something down.

00:04:11.080 He's got it.

00:04:14.660 Uh...

00:04:15.180 The painting was titled something.

00:04:16.920 Uh...

00:04:17.320 All right, Michael, what do you got?

00:04:27.460 Glint on my dress.

00:04:28.920 Okay, that's right.

00:04:29.840 I said moaning Lisa. 0.90

00:04:31.780 Oh.

00:04:32.100 Is it moaning Lisa?

00:04:33.860 I think we're...

00:04:34.840 For creativity, I think we should give you that.

00:04:36.440 But no, the name of the painting is Parsing Bill.

00:04:39.800 Hmm.

00:04:40.260 Okay.

00:04:40.960 Okay.

00:04:41.380 All right.

00:04:41.660 So we'll give you both y'all a point for blue.

00:04:44.020 Thank you.

00:04:44.480 That is... 1.00

00:04:44.860 Paraphrasing Joe Rogan here, that is the I gotcha bitch. 1.00

00:04:47.720 Yes. 1.00

00:04:49.180 Like, they knew they were cooked.

00:04:52.060 Yeah.

00:04:52.540 But like the...

00:04:53.660 Like, I think it's amazing what's happening right now.

00:04:56.760 Because Hillary Clinton's finally getting asked questions about this. 1.00

00:04:59.360 And she's like, it was just for philanthropy.

00:05:02.480 And there's photos of him with trafficked women who are naked in a hot tub.

00:05:07.680 So this is like the Clinton version of philanthropy.

00:05:11.160 It is...

00:05:12.340 I love it.

00:05:13.640 I mean, I think it's incredible.

00:05:16.000 By the way, it is such a curse.

00:05:16.960 It's a little more like billionthrophy is what I think it is.

00:05:19.740 A little more bad bill is what I think.

00:05:22.840 The fact that she has not been asked...

00:05:24.420 She's been running for president. 1.00

00:05:25.560 She ran for president for like a decade. 1.00

00:05:27.560 And nobody asked her any questions about Jeffrey Epstein.

00:05:30.840 How's that possible exactly?

00:05:32.680 She's just now getting asked on the record about Jeffrey Epstein.

00:05:35.720 These are the first times Hillary Clinton has been in the public eye for 50 years.

00:05:40.000 Never asked a question about Jeffrey Epstein.

00:05:41.860 Not once.

00:05:42.600 Well, she wiped all those emails off her server. 0.98

00:05:45.060 So it's only now.

00:05:46.800 She didn't wipe them off his server is the problem.

00:05:49.320 This is, I think, a remarkable timeline.

00:05:51.620 It's the sacred timeline.

00:05:52.500 Very excited about it.

00:05:53.380 If only we had the emails, we could do a whole other show just on the Clinton files.

00:05:56.920 But we'll get to number two.

00:05:58.520 What object was reportedly hanging from the ceiling inside Epstein's mansion that raised eyebrows?

00:06:03.960 There's a few things.

00:06:05.060 This is the most iconic.

00:06:10.520 Hey, bro.

00:06:12.560 Is that a real answer?

00:06:14.320 Is that...

00:06:14.820 Betty, don't reveal your answer either.

00:06:16.520 Oh, good.

00:06:16.720 Hold on.

00:06:17.020 All right.

00:06:17.240 Hold on.

00:06:17.560 I'm going to...

00:06:18.680 Oh, is this not a speed thing?

00:06:19.500 Did he have a bride hanging from his chandelier?

00:06:23.440 That was a speed thing.

00:06:24.260 Either way.

00:06:25.240 It was a speed.

00:06:25.800 It was a speed thing.

00:06:27.640 It was unbelievable.

00:06:28.340 It was speed.

00:06:28.840 It was a human-sized bride doll hanging from a chandelier.

00:06:31.760 It was a bride doll.

00:06:32.720 Okay.

00:06:32.980 That's a little different.

00:06:33.600 I just copied Benny, but at least we'll get the same number of points.

00:06:37.400 Really?

00:06:37.920 He had a bride doll.

00:06:38.660 Benny, just keep it in the holster until we're ready to fire here, okay?

00:06:41.740 Hey, this is good advice you could have given to Clinton in 1996.

00:06:45.620 Yeah.

00:06:47.440 All right.

00:06:47.780 Number three.

00:06:48.460 Documents released this year revealed that Jeffrey Epstein was permanently banned from online gaming

00:06:53.300 from what system back in 2013?

00:06:55.800 From what system or what game?

00:07:02.040 System.

00:07:05.320 It's kind of like an online gaming service, but, like, the system works.

00:07:09.420 I'm using the acronym for it.

00:07:11.140 All right.

00:07:11.580 What do you got, Michael?

00:07:12.040 I said XXX Box Live and Unalive.

00:07:18.480 Do this the entire show.

00:07:19.700 All right, Betty, what do you got?

00:07:21.460 It was World of Warcraft, I think.

00:07:23.180 Pretty sure.

00:07:23.580 Michael takes the lead with Xbox Live in 2013.

00:07:27.740 I like that.

00:07:28.440 The more current rumor is about Fortnite and the gamer tag, but they're disputing that.

00:07:32.780 The one that is confirmed is Microsoft.

00:07:34.300 Yeah, I thought it was the Fortnite thing at first, so I'm glad you clarified.

00:07:37.700 Michael knows a lot about these emails all of a sudden.

00:07:39.500 It's getting a little suspicious, Michael.

00:07:41.380 But the next batch that drops.

00:07:43.660 All right, here we go.

00:07:44.260 Number four.

00:07:44.820 A note reportedly found...

00:07:46.140 There's not another batch, sadly.

00:07:49.020 I thought there were still, like, millions unreleased.

00:07:51.780 There are.

00:07:52.300 Yeah, but we're not getting them.

00:07:53.580 And it's our job to get them to release them.

00:07:56.180 All right, number four.

00:07:57.140 In a note reportedly found in his jail cell, where he complained about giant bugs crawling

00:08:01.960 on him, being served burnt food, and being locked naked in a shower for hours, how did

00:08:06.100 Epstein end that letter? 0.97

00:08:07.640 Was it A, I'm not suicidal?

00:08:10.060 B, I don't deserve this?

00:08:11.980 C, not today?

00:08:14.140 Or D, not fun?

00:08:15.640 Not fun is the funniest one.

00:08:23.980 I'm taking a guess at this one.

00:08:29.300 It really could plausibly be any of it.

00:08:31.280 Wait, so Michael guessed the points when he read off my board?

00:08:34.960 Those are valid points?

00:08:36.580 What do you mean, you threw it up in the air?

00:08:37.520 I get all those points.

00:08:38.680 Bride. 0.73

00:08:39.580 I say E, bride.

00:08:41.300 He's only had my one, yeah.

00:08:42.560 Yeah.

00:08:42.780 You want me to read through them again, or do you have your answers?

00:08:45.080 I have it.

00:08:46.480 Benny, do you have yours?

00:08:48.020 I do, sure.

00:08:48.980 All right, Benny, what do you have?

00:08:51.560 It sounded more like Epstein.

00:08:53.120 I've read a lot of Epstein emails, so that sounded more like, it's not fun.

00:08:56.880 Not fun.

00:08:57.360 Michael?

00:08:57.780 Yeah, I agree.

00:08:58.460 I think it's D, not fun.

00:09:00.540 That's correct.

00:09:01.380 Yeah, okay.

00:09:02.140 Who taught you to write?

00:09:03.440 Who taught you to write?

00:09:04.380 You know what?

00:09:04.840 I tried to do a-

00:09:05.760 What is that, exactly?

00:09:06.880 I tried to do cursive, like really good cursive would look like this, but instead it kind

00:09:11.620 of just, it kind of came out like, it kind of came out like that.

00:09:15.700 Anyway.

00:09:16.940 Okay.

00:09:17.760 The funny thing-

00:09:18.640 My three-year-old's learning her letters, and she does better alphabet letters than that.

00:09:23.800 We all do bubble letters.

00:09:24.540 That's cool, though, bro.

00:09:25.700 It's fine.

00:09:26.420 It's fine.

00:09:26.820 That's fine.

00:09:27.300 It's fine.

00:09:27.640 The fun thing with the no fun email, it was no fun with two exclamation points as well.

00:09:32.100 No fun.

00:09:32.880 No fun.

00:09:34.120 It's kind of like an end of a Trump tweet.

00:09:36.240 Yeah.

00:09:36.560 You know, like big, you know?

00:09:38.440 Yeah.

00:09:39.500 Yeah.

00:09:39.860 Right.

00:09:41.420 Actually, Trump tweets are good, like a great example of the greater overall point, which

00:09:46.020 is like, you read through these Jeffrey Epstein emails, and you're like, these people run

00:09:51.080 the world?

00:09:51.660 Yeah.

00:09:52.500 No, you know what?

00:09:53.000 They can't effing spell. 0.98

00:09:54.440 They can't, they can't even write like basic, they can't write basic sentences.

00:10:00.740 I've noticed this, though.

00:10:01.840 And they're like, they're like typing down all their crimes.

00:10:04.220 The more, the more like high status people get, the more, I think it's almost intentional

00:10:10.100 that they misspell stuff.

00:10:11.740 It's like a, it's like, I'm too busy.

00:10:13.500 Oh, I don't even, I don't even want to check my, I don't even need to use the proper number

00:10:17.040 of vowels.

00:10:17.860 It's, I think it's a total power play.

00:10:20.980 So Whoopi Goldberg, I just read through the Whoopi Goldberg emails, which are so funny.

00:10:24.760 So Whoopi Goldberg gets down on her knees and begs Jeffrey Epstein for his jet. 0.99

00:10:29.260 Please let me use your Gulfstream too.

00:10:31.240 I need to go to Monaco, which is a $50,000, $100,000 jet trip.

00:10:35.820 And she says, please come with me.

00:10:37.660 I beg of you.

00:10:38.540 And so this is the Whoopi Goldberg email.

00:10:40.140 It's so funny.

00:10:40.820 And Jeffrey Epstein's response to her is, uh, he goes, no, thanks, but he misspells

00:10:48.920 thanks.

00:10:49.680 So he can't even like turn down Whoopi Goldberg.

00:10:52.640 So Whoopi Goldberg is the only person that was too slimy and too repulsive for Jeffrey 0.92

00:10:58.320 Epstein even to allow on the rape jet. 0.89

00:11:02.000 Yeah.

00:11:02.440 And you know, you, you would think with some of the conspiracy theories, Whoopi Goldberg

00:11:06.620 is almost Jewish, but she's not.

00:11:09.620 It's fake that Goldberg name is made up.

00:11:12.180 It's not, I'm not saying Epstein's misad.

00:11:14.740 I'm saying that you would, according to the theory, you would think Whoopi Goldberg could,

00:11:19.500 but she can't because it's not even, she's not really, even really a Goldberg.

00:11:22.820 It's fun.

00:11:23.380 Speaking of people who Jeffrey actually did like, who was reportedly in line to inherit

00:11:27.420 most of Jeffrey Epstein's fortune?

00:11:29.640 Is it A, Ghislaine Maxwell, B, an unnamed son, C, surviving parents, or D, a Belarusian

00:11:35.120 born qualified dentist?

00:11:36.220 It's easy, man.

00:11:43.540 Benny's ready to throw it up.

00:11:50.640 10 seconds.

00:11:56.260 Should do a speed element in this.

00:11:57.840 I think we should now.

00:11:58.960 This is getting bad.

00:11:59.680 I, all right, what do you got?

00:12:03.340 I said the dentist, the hot dentist.

00:12:06.600 How do you?

00:12:07.000 See, it's teeth with like big luscious lips. 0.57

00:12:09.100 Oh.

00:12:09.520 Try to spice it up a little.

00:12:11.180 Okay.

00:12:11.740 Okay.

00:12:12.500 That, that looks like kind of like a, like an Egyptian boat, like from the, you know,

00:12:17.420 Pharisees or like, sorry, not Pharisees, like the pharaohs.

00:12:21.680 Oh yeah.

00:12:22.460 You're right.

00:12:22.840 Like a Viking ship.

00:12:24.220 Like kind of like a Viking ship, like with sails.

00:12:26.020 Yeah.

00:12:26.260 Okay.

00:12:26.800 Yeah.

00:12:27.020 It's a Viking or like a pagoda. 0.80

00:12:28.600 Yeah.

00:12:28.800 Anyway.

00:12:29.180 I thought the exact same thing.

00:12:30.500 Good news is you both got it right.

00:12:31.900 It's the Belarusian born dentist.

00:12:34.220 Yeah.

00:12:34.560 I saw, what's her name?

00:12:35.640 I was actually reading about her.

00:12:36.780 We'll get into that in the next question.

00:12:38.380 How large was the diamond ring Epstein reportedly gave Kirian Schultzlik through the 1953 trust

00:12:45.380 signed just two days before his death?

00:12:47.720 That's the name of the Belarusian dentist.

00:12:51.460 Now this is the closest without going over with carrots.

00:12:53.880 Okay.

00:12:54.140 How many carrots is this diamond ring closest without going over?

00:12:59.460 Just two days before he allegedly unaligned himself.

00:13:03.440 All right.

00:13:04.440 Michael, do you have an answer?

00:13:05.160 I say it's 19 carrots.

00:13:08.260 Okay.

00:13:08.780 Benny?

00:13:09.800 30 carrots.

00:13:12.300 It's 32.73 carrots.

00:13:15.140 Benny with the dagger tied game.

00:13:17.940 I thought it was going to be 20 and I wanted to give myself a little wiggle.

00:13:21.460 Mm-hmm.

00:13:22.380 Wow.

00:13:22.900 Okay.

00:13:24.140 I should have realized.

00:13:25.920 He's got a lot of money.

00:13:27.300 Oh, poor guy.

00:13:27.940 You know, and he was just about to get married.

00:13:29.600 Those two young kids, you know, are like a bad term for the Epstein files.

00:13:33.320 But like those two, that young couple, they had their whole lives ahead of them, struck

00:13:38.160 down in his prime.

00:13:40.100 That's what most people say about the Epstein files.

00:13:41.860 Just tragic.

00:13:42.720 Tragic.

00:13:44.040 Such a sad tale.

00:13:45.720 Number seven.

00:13:46.380 According to prediction market Kalshi, what was the percentage chance that Gisling Maxwell 0.98

00:13:50.640 will be released from government custody?

00:13:53.300 Close this without going over.

00:13:54.340 What's the current betting odds?

00:13:55.960 What percent chance does she have to get out?

00:13:59.300 We good?

00:14:01.420 All right, Benny, what do you have?

00:14:03.540 12.

00:14:04.800 12%.

00:14:05.200 Michael?

00:14:06.240 Wow.

00:14:06.700 You really said, I said 53.

00:14:09.460 It's 27%, according to Kalshi, chance that she has to get out.

00:14:16.720 So I'm technically closer.

00:14:18.120 You are technically closer.

00:14:20.340 And he went over.

00:14:21.560 I thought you were going to change it, you know.

00:14:24.640 No, that's really, oh, that's bad.

00:14:26.360 She's got a 20-year sentence. 1.00

00:14:28.620 Yeah, 50%.

00:14:29.320 So she's going to eventually get out, you know, I guess, like, what's the list, you know?

00:14:32.760 Yeah, 100%.

00:14:33.160 Eventually, she's going to die in jail. 1.00

00:14:35.060 I doubt they'll ever let her be a free person again.

00:14:37.600 Yeah.

00:14:37.960 You just wonder if they were, look, maybe, the thing is, when we say that Epstein belonged

00:14:44.140 to intelligence or had some, obviously, he did have relationships to, like, every intelligence

00:14:48.220 service on Earth.

00:14:49.840 But I don't think he was, like, super spy Jeffrey.

00:14:53.600 That said, like, Maxwell's dad was a spook. 0.98

00:14:57.040 He was, like, a triple agent or something like that.

00:14:59.420 You would just think, if these agencies were as powerful as they are, like, one of them

00:15:03.500 would bail her out, maybe, or maybe not.

00:15:05.780 Maybe not.

00:15:06.020 Are you going to play through the best?

00:15:08.140 Maxwell's dad got, like, a state funeral in Israel.

00:15:11.000 Yeah.

00:15:11.240 He was, like, a totally MSAD agent, like, for sure.

00:15:14.360 But I think he was also MI6 and KGB.

00:15:17.320 I think.

00:15:17.880 That's what I read.

00:15:19.280 Yeah.

00:15:19.640 He did, like, he lived in England.

00:15:21.140 He did, like, arms deals all throughout Europe.

00:15:23.360 Yeah.

00:15:23.380 That's the thing with these guys.

00:15:24.800 I think they're, like...

00:15:25.480 The dude, when he died, when he died, like, the entire Israeli government showed up and

00:15:29.860 he got a state funeral in Israel, so...

00:15:32.800 Yeah.

00:15:33.620 I mean, that dude was, like, for sure a Mossad.

00:15:36.440 For me, maybe they'll toast one glass of Manischewitz, but I don't think...

00:15:39.800 I don't know.

00:15:40.040 I've never actually been to Israel.

00:15:41.760 I don't...

00:15:42.600 They keep having wars, so I don't want to go.

00:15:45.280 But, like...

00:15:45.820 I think you're right, though.

00:15:46.800 I, like...

00:15:47.340 I think you're right.

00:15:47.920 My new favorite conspiracy theory, it's not really a conspiracy theory, they're all just

00:15:52.680 theories at this point, and the conspiracy theorists are up, like, 1,000 to zero, is

00:15:57.140 that, you know, Jelaine Maxwell was swapped out, because the most recent video of her and

00:16:03.760 her deposition, like, doesn't even...

00:16:05.240 Doesn't look like her.

00:16:06.640 Interesting.

00:16:07.080 And everyone's saying, like, it's a different nose, different eyes, different ears, and

00:16:10.720 they did the swap out, just an actress.

00:16:13.300 Man, you know, so I've had some tough jobs in my life, but imagine being...

00:16:17.920 The Ghislaine Maxwell prison body double.

00:16:21.380 You have to really screw up in, like, you know, high school classes to end up with that

00:16:26.460 gig.

00:16:26.760 That's terrible.

00:16:28.020 It's hard to believe the photos, too, because I fell for the Epstein and Israel Fortnite photos 0.95

00:16:31.880 that were, like, clearly Sora.

00:16:33.260 I'm like, all right, guys.

00:16:34.460 There's, like, so many of those going around.

00:16:35.660 Yeah, these are AI pictures of, like, it's, like, Epstein wearing Groucho glasses.

00:16:38.820 Like, guys, I don't think...

00:16:39.780 Come on.

00:16:40.180 What are we doing?

00:16:40.660 I think I even sent it to you in the morning.

00:16:41.740 They're very convincing.

00:16:42.280 Yeah.

00:16:43.600 Allegedly, to all this.

00:16:44.580 All right.

00:16:44.800 What was the alleged code phrase, beef jerky?

00:16:47.340 He speculated online to reference in certain email discussions what was that codename

00:16:52.800 for.

00:16:53.240 For example, JoJo is here and will walk the jerky over to Jeffrey.

00:17:01.720 Does Benny have his answer?

00:17:03.120 He's been ready.

00:17:04.060 Was it human flesh?

00:17:06.400 Oh, yeah, Benny.

00:17:09.000 Both correct.

00:17:10.260 Yeah, okay.

00:17:10.740 Wait, what did he say?

00:17:11.800 Child meat?

00:17:12.520 So, that's, like, such a grosser way to put it.

00:17:15.500 Oh, man.

00:17:16.480 It's crazy, yeah.

00:17:17.840 According to Reddit, it comes up 383 times.

00:17:20.600 But that's Reddit.

00:17:21.520 Can't confirm that.

00:17:22.820 Man, you know, maybe I'm too naive or something.

00:17:26.440 But, like, obviously, like, Epstein was up to some pretty, like, demonic stuff.

00:17:32.600 Like, there was clearly a lot of...

00:17:34.220 Even his reaction to the name of Christ.

00:17:37.580 It's just, like, really bizarre reaction when Steve Bannon asks him in this interview.

00:17:40.680 And he's like, oh, the carpenter?

00:17:42.200 Like, what do you have to do with me, Jesus of Nazareth?

00:17:45.180 But some of this stuff where they're, like, they're eating babies or whatever, I just don't

00:17:52.340 buy it.

00:17:53.400 Like, I don't...

00:17:54.540 Am I...

00:17:55.260 Maybe I'm naive.

00:17:56.140 Kind of depends on how far you want to go into the occult rituals.

00:18:02.720 But child and human sacrifice is obviously woven into occult practices since the dawn

00:18:08.940 of time.

00:18:09.680 Yeah, that's true.

00:18:10.480 And so, if you assume that they're occultists, which I do, the reason why is that they treat

00:18:16.460 human beings as subhuman, right? 0.96

00:18:19.880 So, this is what they were doing with these women. 0.89

00:18:21.720 This is what they were doing with these children.

00:18:22.880 No one would treat a child of God this way.

00:18:26.140 And so, when you go that far down the pathway and you look at some of the art, you look

00:18:31.540 at, like, what they were painting, you look at visualizations, you just have to assume

00:18:35.400 occult-level practices on this stuff.

00:18:38.140 And I don't think...

00:18:38.840 I honestly, Michael, don't think that was the full op.

00:18:41.500 I think that that was a side project.

00:18:43.540 I think that the full op was actually being a fixer, right?

00:18:50.540 Yes.

00:18:50.800 Between government entities and, like, get, like, a dark arts, like a mafia-style, like,

00:18:56.600 hitman.

00:18:57.320 Yeah. 0.85

00:18:57.800 Between, like, I needed to get a dirty job done.

00:19:00.280 Yeah.

00:19:00.460 And you see that throughout the emails.

00:19:01.540 Like, everyone who has a filthy, dirty job, they would go to Epstein.

00:19:05.020 He would get involved.

00:19:06.000 He was known as a guy who could just, like, you know, take care of this stuff.

00:19:10.040 But as, but in order to facilitate business with these, you know, with people who are

00:19:15.320 under mass surveillance or billionaires who can't just go, Bill Gates can't just go to

00:19:18.680 a bar, right, and pick up a chick, he had the island with the women. 0.96

00:19:24.140 He had the plane with the women because he knew that's something that's, like, a lot of,

00:19:27.560 that greased the skids for his business.

00:19:30.140 Yeah, I agree.

00:19:30.720 The real business was, like, being a government facilitator between the public and the private

00:19:35.280 space.

00:19:35.700 He was, like, that, you know, that glue in between those spaces.

00:19:38.360 I agree.

00:19:38.900 That's why when people say, like, well, did he work for the CIA or Mossad or KGB or FSB

00:19:45.820 or MI6 or this or the Arabs or this or that, I think, like, no, like, probably no, except

00:19:52.360 yes to all of them.

00:19:54.100 Incidentally, like, yes, I got, yeah, he was, like, a shady dude who just kind of made stuff

00:20:00.120 happen.

00:20:00.680 And, like, I know those guys from New York.

00:20:03.600 I know guys who kind of move in between the darker spaces and the more public square, but

00:20:09.460 I think he was just that at the very highest level. 0.99

00:20:13.280 Like, just think of the highest level lobbyist, crook, dodgy, money launderer, pimp, weird, 0.97

00:20:20.600 like, just, like, the highest level of that was this guy.

00:20:24.380 So, yeah, to your point, yeah, when people sin a lot, they do, they're touching on the

00:20:30.640 occult in that they're dealing with, like, very dark spiritual forces.

00:20:34.600 And so, yeah, okay, if something like that did happen, yeah, I think it was probably incidental

00:20:40.560 to the business, whatever the business was.

00:20:43.020 Yeah, I mean, again, there's no doubt that there are sort of through lines for this.

00:20:52.620 There's one email where he's talking about, like, a girl praying to Jesus Christ, right?

00:20:58.200 And then being, and then being, I mean, it's totally, it's totally evil, it's demonic.

00:21:02.680 You would never, ever be able to do these kind of things, you know, unless you had some

00:21:06.940 type of, you know, the spiritual lens is the only way to actually truly see through

00:21:11.060 this. So, yeah, I think that it is, I mean, obviously, Michael, I think that it is, like,

00:21:14.800 a little, you know, it's a little bit, you know, it's a little, it's clearly code for

00:21:19.480 something.

00:21:20.180 Right, right.

00:21:20.820 So, like, I guess I just don't know.

00:21:22.680 Like, is it child meat?

00:21:24.320 It's code for something.

00:21:25.620 Right, what's it code for?

00:21:27.260 Right.

00:21:27.600 You know, nobody, these people have private chefs, they're the best chefs in the world,

00:21:30.560 they're all billionaires, nobody ever talks about food this way, nobody ever mentions

00:21:34.260 jerky thousands of times.

00:21:36.360 Yeah.

00:21:36.660 Like, so, exactly what is it?

00:21:38.700 And it's mentioned in, like, such strange, such peculiar ways.

00:21:43.020 It's mentioned in a way that even if you were physically carrying beef jerky, you would

00:21:46.340 never talk about it.

00:21:47.140 So, it's like, what is it exactly?

00:21:49.580 Maybe.

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00:23:13.140 Yeah, well, fortunately, it didn't end up very well for Jeffrey.

00:23:15.880 So we'll move on to number nine.

00:23:17.200 What constant noise reportedly drove Epstein to sit in his cell with his hands covering his ears?

00:23:23.020 What was that noise that was always happening in prison?

00:23:28.240 Oh, Michael might actually win the speed round here.

00:23:36.180 This could be it.

00:23:38.160 He's the only one.

00:23:39.620 No, I think this one's pretty obvious.

00:23:42.020 6-5, Benny's up.

00:23:43.060 All right, Michael, what do you have?

00:23:45.080 6-5.

00:23:45.920 This is actually pretty close.

00:23:47.500 So probably, I said Nickelback.

00:23:51.180 I thought he was beating me by more, and so I went just for the joke.

00:23:55.160 I don't actually know this one.

00:23:58.200 I assume there's like a bunch of laundry by his cell, according to the schematics of the prison.

00:24:03.840 It's huge laundry, like by his cell.

00:24:06.120 So I assume maybe it's like the washing machine running all the time.

00:24:08.680 That's close.

00:24:09.360 I don't know.

00:24:09.900 Reportedly, it was a constantly running broken toilet.

00:24:13.340 The toilet?

00:24:14.020 Okay.

00:24:14.320 It drove him nuts, yeah.

00:24:15.380 Well, if neither of us gets it, then I feel better about writing Nickelback.

00:24:19.080 Was there any, like any photographs or anything?

00:24:22.500 No.

00:24:24.560 Okay, all right, never mind.

00:24:25.780 All right, number 10.

00:24:27.060 Oh, with Nickelback in his cell?

00:24:28.980 Yeah.

00:24:30.300 That's who did it!

00:24:31.380 This is cruel!

00:24:32.220 No, I'm joking.

00:24:33.260 Only the boombox by the door.

00:24:35.000 That would have been great.

00:24:37.360 How long did the guards reportedly fail to check in on Epstein the night he died?

00:24:42.260 Is it A, 30 minutes?

00:24:43.640 B, one hour?

00:24:44.660 C, two hours?

00:24:45.840 D, three hours?

00:24:46.860 Who were subsequently moved out of the facility as quickly as possible, given promotions.

00:24:59.840 Never had to answer the media.

00:25:03.100 No career repercussions.

00:25:05.600 Just a coincidence.

00:25:06.460 Was it two hours?

00:25:08.780 Benny, what do you have?

00:25:09.860 I have C. I have two hours.

00:25:12.580 Gentlemen, it was three hours.

00:25:14.340 We're closest to three hours, yeah.

00:25:15.640 Three hours, huh?

00:25:18.500 That is correct.

00:25:19.440 Closest to, it was closest to, closest, huh?

00:25:22.080 Well, I mean, it was the actual number.

00:25:23.480 Technically, it was about three hours.

00:25:24.660 That's what the reports were.

00:25:26.580 Uh-huh, okay.

00:25:27.300 All right.

00:25:28.720 Okay.

00:25:29.440 All right.

00:25:30.540 There's a little going.

00:25:31.280 There's a little kind of going.

00:25:31.920 Can we get a fact check at the control room?

00:25:34.460 No, it doesn't.

00:25:35.120 We do have the same answer.

00:25:36.960 That's right.

00:25:37.940 It would be a tie, anyway.

00:25:38.640 If it was two, it's either two or three.

00:25:39.700 But reportedly, it's closer to three.

00:25:42.560 Okay.

00:25:43.100 All right.

00:25:43.340 Number 11, how tall was Jeffrey Epstein?

00:25:46.660 Closest without going over.

00:25:54.340 Was he one of those guys you may have in person, it's suspiciously tall, you know?

00:25:58.480 Is he suspiciously short?

00:26:00.760 Why does it have to be suspicious?

00:26:02.480 Why can't he be ordinarily tall or short?

00:26:04.460 I mean.

00:26:05.160 Because he's a suspicious figure.

00:26:07.020 Yes.

00:26:07.300 Yeah.

00:26:07.480 He has kind of tall guy energy.

00:26:12.140 That can't be right.

00:26:13.080 Chat GPT is saying the guards were asleep for eight hours, but clearly chat's messing up.

00:26:17.200 That's just like.

00:26:17.720 Don't use chat GPT, guys.

00:26:18.800 That's just what like HHS recommends.

00:26:20.980 That's like.

00:26:22.680 Yes.

00:26:23.080 He drank eight glasses of water a day, too.

00:26:26.260 Hmm.

00:26:26.600 I don't.

00:26:27.040 I'm just making a guess based on a bunch of photos.

00:26:30.280 You know, you've seen photos of him with Clinton.

00:26:32.320 You've seen photos of him with Trump.

00:26:34.140 I've met Trump.

00:26:36.140 So.

00:26:36.500 Because what's Trump?

00:26:37.100 Trump is six, three, six, two, six, three, something like that.

00:26:42.620 So, yeah, I'm kind of basing it on the Trump one.

00:26:44.760 I said five, nine.

00:26:46.260 Five, nine.

00:26:46.800 Benny, what do you have?

00:26:47.980 Five, eleven.

00:26:51.080 Trump is six, three.

00:26:52.540 But the correct answer is five, seven.

00:26:55.320 Let's go.

00:26:56.020 Five, seven.

00:26:56.860 Yeah, kid.

00:26:58.160 Michael, I say close this without going over.

00:27:00.320 You guys are both over.

00:27:01.540 So y'all both lost.

00:27:02.280 Benny's still five, one.

00:27:04.820 He was only five, seven.

00:27:06.700 Five, seven.

00:27:07.600 Hold on.

00:27:07.760 Wow.

00:27:08.400 You know, I was.

00:27:09.200 There's a photo of him with Bannon.

00:27:10.220 There's a photo of him with Bannon, too.

00:27:12.880 And I don't remember Bannon being particularly short, but they're like the same height, right?

00:27:17.700 Yeah.

00:27:17.960 So it's like weird.

00:27:19.320 Five, seven's pretty short.

00:27:20.560 Hold on, hold on.

00:27:21.180 Pretty short, dude.

00:27:22.180 Yeah, hold on.

00:27:23.100 I'm looking this up.

00:27:24.200 I don't trust Davies' grok or whatever he's doing, Gemini. 1.00

00:27:27.960 Apparently, the source was wrong on this one.

00:27:29.920 Yeah.

00:27:30.160 Because you brought up Trump.

00:27:31.580 Like, there's no way because he's pretty close to the height.

00:27:32.900 He wasn't five, seven.

00:27:34.000 Yeah.

00:27:34.320 So it's saying, actually, he's six foot.

00:27:37.400 So who's closer to six?

00:27:38.420 Hold on.

00:27:38.860 You know, what's your source?

00:27:39.980 You're just making stuff up.

00:27:40.940 Well, I'll be me because I said 5'11".

00:27:41.460 What's your source?

00:27:42.380 I said 5'11".

00:27:43.460 No, this says around six foot.

00:27:45.640 So we don't know.

00:27:46.280 Hold on.

00:27:46.640 I'm going to ask Grok.

00:27:48.180 We all agree.

00:27:49.380 We all agree Elon is right about at least 80% of things.

00:27:54.200 Hold on.

00:27:54.800 Grok, how tall was Jeffrey Epstein?

00:28:00.180 Give me the accurate answer, not Mr. Davies' nonsense. 0.97

00:28:06.700 Lazy, sloppy nonsense. 0.98

00:28:08.760 Gotta be. 1.00

00:28:09.780 It's insane.

00:28:10.520 He's Googling during the show.

00:28:12.620 Okay.

00:28:13.320 So his IMDB lists his height as six foot.

00:28:16.960 That's probably not the right.

00:28:17.980 No one's ever been six foot flat.

00:28:19.840 No one.

00:28:20.320 That means at most 5'11".

00:28:22.240 But it might be 5'10".

00:28:24.080 Look at this.

00:28:25.000 CBS, 60 Minutes, said that he was six foot six.

00:28:27.740 This is like, we just don't.

00:28:29.660 Yeah.

00:28:30.020 Whatever.

00:28:30.340 Give it to Benny.

00:28:30.920 I don't even want to anymore.

00:28:31.180 I'm getting so many conflicting reports that I think we just got to wash that question.

00:28:34.780 Like, there's so many different heights that it's showing.

00:28:36.560 I feel like you're robbing it from Benny, but I'll take it.

00:28:38.700 Where's the odd top of the year?

00:28:39.640 Because what did Benny say?

00:28:40.440 Six foot?

00:28:40.840 Well, I said 5'11", which is not over.

00:28:43.560 So Benny would get it, except no one.

00:28:45.680 Dude, how many times have you ever met someone who was actually six feet?

00:28:48.600 Because there's photos of him.

00:28:49.060 Exactly.

00:28:49.660 There's photos of him relatively, like, not looking like a midget next to Trump. 0.99

00:28:55.100 Yeah.

00:28:55.540 Or Bannon.

00:28:56.440 Yeah.

00:28:57.560 Or Bill Clinton.

00:28:59.500 You know, he doesn't look, he's shorter than them, but he's only a midget next to them. 1.00

00:29:02.460 He's notably shorter, but he's not, yeah, he's not 5'7".

00:29:04.820 5'7", would be very, would be considerably shorter.

00:29:08.460 Would be Al Pacino style.

00:29:09.720 Well, yeah.

00:29:10.220 This is a gentleman's game.

00:29:11.320 So you guys want to just wash this question out, or do you want to go with one of these

00:29:14.440 reports?

00:29:14.940 I want to get a better producer who can look up the answers first.

00:29:18.300 Give it to Benny.

00:29:18.660 I'm taking the point.

00:29:19.680 No, I'm taking the point.

00:29:20.660 I'm taking the point.

00:29:21.240 All right, fine, fine.

00:29:22.520 Yeah, because they-

00:29:23.160 I'm taking the point.

00:29:24.040 According to the autopsy, nearly six feet, 185 pounds.

00:29:28.160 Nearly.

00:29:28.440 What's nearly?

00:29:29.660 Exactly.

00:29:29.840 That's 5'11".

00:29:31.160 Is nearly 5'10 and nine-tenths?

00:29:35.060 Or is it 5'11"?

00:29:36.060 I don't know what it is.

00:29:37.380 So outrageous.

00:29:38.320 Well, I hope this next one is correct.

00:29:40.220 Well, it wasn't his body anyway, so-

00:29:41.760 I know, it's autopsy.

00:29:43.080 Yeah, okay.

00:29:44.120 That's right.

00:29:45.620 All right.

00:29:46.220 A gold-plated picture frame is not only not luxurious, you can get one for like $11 at

00:30:15.640 TJ Maxx.

00:30:16.580 I don't- there's no way it's that, right?

00:30:19.920 Now you tell me.

00:30:21.900 What extravagant gift did a former Obama White House counsel think, quote, Uncle Jeffrey

00:30:27.280 for in the emails?

00:30:29.860 Benny, you have yours?

00:30:32.360 All right.

00:30:33.020 Michael, you got yours?

00:30:34.380 Hold on.

00:30:34.820 Hold on.

00:30:35.740 Hold on.

00:30:36.100 I just got a text that Benny's running away with this, so Michael, you better get this

00:30:47.600 right.

00:30:53.620 Oh my God.

00:30:54.760 Okay.

00:30:55.320 All right.

00:30:55.620 What do you have?

00:30:55.920 I said bay, root, it's the Lebanon stuff. 0.99

00:31:01.860 You see, it's a bay and then roots.

00:31:04.860 I'm trying to make it interesting.

00:31:06.740 What do you have, Benny?

00:31:07.340 It's Catherine Rumler.

00:31:08.360 It was a Chanel bag.

00:31:09.940 It was a designer bag.

00:31:11.160 That's correct.

00:31:11.800 It was a White House counsel.

00:31:13.160 $9,000 purse.

00:31:15.160 I should have guessed that.

00:31:16.580 Mm-hmm.

00:31:17.420 It wasn't just that.

00:31:18.660 It was-

00:31:18.960 What do they care about?

00:31:20.700 Lebanon.

00:31:20.900 It was shoes and a watch and a bunch of other stuff, but yeah, purse was in there for sure.

00:31:24.220 I wonder what kind of watch it was.

00:31:26.480 He wore a fake Vacheron Constantin.

00:31:29.340 He had like a nice, like you'd think it'd be a nice, I saw this on some forum or like

00:31:33.580 post.

00:31:34.460 It, he, Jeffrey Epstein, the man with an island, had a total knockoff Vacheron Constantin watch. 0.94

00:31:40.720 He's a, he was a dirty, cheap, you know, ski stack. 1.00

00:31:44.600 I'm sure you'd think he might have been a swindler. 0.97

00:31:47.360 He tipped his, yeah, I mean like, it is amazing, it is amazing how these things, you know, it

00:31:52.380 was amazing how like you can tell, you just like, show me somebody's, show me somebody's

00:31:56.000 like tip, history on Uber Eats and I'll like tell you so much about like who they are as

00:32:01.760 a person.

00:32:01.960 Yeah.

00:32:02.160 Especially when they're ordering a lot of beef jerky.

00:32:04.060 You're like, this guy is not good.

00:32:08.160 So he's, so he's, he was tipping like his DoorDash people like two bucks in the rain

00:32:12.420 and it's like, you're a billionaire, bro.

00:32:14.960 You know, you can make someone's day, tip them a thousand dollars or whatever.

00:32:18.880 Yeah.

00:32:19.120 Or three dollars.

00:32:20.000 No, it's like, it's, it's amazing how, it's amazing how these people, that Ronald Dahl is

00:32:24.140 this great quote.

00:32:25.360 And it's like, if you're ugly on the inside, it'll always manifest on the outside.

00:32:29.280 And so it doesn't matter how beautiful you are, how beautiful you start off with, like 0.99

00:32:32.680 you're, you're like, you know, like horrible, twisted, warped people.

00:32:36.240 There's always something that they're doing on the outside that shows you how sick they 0.97

00:32:39.980 are on the inside.

00:32:41.220 And that like, when I saw it, like a DoorDash gets a $2 tip from this billionaire. 1.00

00:32:45.440 I'm like, you're scumbag. 1.00

00:32:46.300 You know, it's like scumbag. 1.00

00:32:47.220 No, that's why I try to treat ugly people as poorly as I can, because I assume it speaks 1.00

00:32:53.180 to some kind of moral perfidy on the inside.

00:32:56.140 So I'll, forget about not tipping. 0.99

00:32:57.620 I'll hit them. 1.00

00:32:58.360 I see them on the street. 1.00

00:33:01.680 Speaking of disgusting people. 0.97

00:33:03.720 He made the right choice on Whoopi Goldberg. 0.93

00:33:05.580 At least he had, he had Jeffrey Epstein.

00:33:08.960 He had instincts on Whoopi.

00:33:11.080 Yeah.

00:33:11.440 Yeah, that's right.

00:33:12.020 Speaking of gross people, in a 2016 letter written for Jeffrey Epstein's 63rd birthday,

00:33:20.100 what did director Woody Allen say dinners at Epstein's home reminded him of?

00:33:24.080 Was it A, a White House state dining room, B, a Renaissance court, C, Dracula's castle,

00:33:29.980 or D, a James Bond villain's lair?

00:33:32.120 It could be two of those.

00:33:37.520 Two of those are plausible.

00:33:44.220 It was B, Renaissance court. 0.94

00:33:47.060 Or C.

00:33:47.940 No, it was a Dracula's castle.

00:33:50.080 The correct answer is...

00:33:51.080 It was a very...

00:33:52.920 C, Dracula's castle.

00:33:53.980 Oh, come on. 0.87

00:33:54.900 Really?

00:33:55.200 I thought it would be either Bond or Renaissance court.

00:33:58.700 It's a very accurate description, too.

00:34:00.340 Like, leave it to the artistes to actually come up with the correct framing for all of this.

00:34:06.940 Is it because they literally drank the blood of young women?

00:34:09.860 Talking about drinking blood, eating children?

00:34:11.560 Like, Woody Allen calling it.

00:34:13.100 Wow.

00:34:13.640 Like, calling it from the half-court line.

00:34:16.320 Yeah.

00:34:16.940 It was totally like Dracula's castle.

00:34:19.320 Maybe he was telling us about the jerky.

00:34:20.880 Wow, yeah.

00:34:22.260 So the weird thing about this, Alex Jones was on my show the other day,

00:34:25.900 and he was like, he's like, Dracula.

00:34:28.800 You know, like, in the middle of an answer, Alex Jones will just, like, yell Dracula,

00:34:32.120 you know, and vampires.

00:34:33.020 It's awesome.

00:34:33.780 And I'm like, where are you going with this, Alex?

00:34:35.360 And he's like, well, that's the point about Epstein, is that vampires.

00:34:38.960 And I was like, unpack that.

00:34:40.240 And he goes, well, if you actually go back to Dracula, and the real Dracula,

00:34:44.440 inside of the, you know, inside of the Romanian, you know, Transylvania is in Romania,

00:34:50.160 and you go back and you trace his lineage, it actually has direct ties to the current

00:34:54.100 royal family.

00:34:55.440 And that's why Prince Andrew was so interested in Epstein. 0.92

00:34:59.040 Because he's a vampire.

00:35:00.560 Oh.

00:35:01.760 And I was like, bro.

00:35:03.000 I'm not going to look into that.

00:35:04.540 I'm just going to choose to believe it.

00:35:06.400 I don't need that.

00:35:06.860 That makes so much sense.

00:35:08.060 It's actually, yeah.

00:35:09.260 It's like, it's actually perfect.

00:35:12.020 It explains everything.

00:35:13.740 So these are just, these are just literal white walkers among us. 0.87

00:35:19.000 And these are just vampires living out their vampire. 0.98

00:35:22.260 Who feed on the blood of young blonde women and on beef jerky. 0.99

00:35:28.180 Yeah.

00:35:28.480 Okay.

00:35:29.280 All right.

00:35:29.840 All right.

00:35:30.320 Number 14.

00:35:31.480 Epstein donated money to which prestigious university after his conviction?

00:35:35.760 Is it A, Yale?

00:35:37.400 B, Princeton?

00:35:38.620 C, Harvard?

00:35:40.020 D, Stanford?

00:35:40.720 This is after his conviction.

00:35:45.860 The one I was thinking about isn't in the list.

00:35:48.160 But we'll see.

00:35:49.500 You were thinking MIT, I bet.

00:35:52.400 He was thinking MIT.

00:35:53.700 But I say it was Harvard.

00:35:56.180 C.

00:35:56.660 What do you have, Benny?

00:35:58.040 I was saying Harvard as well.

00:36:00.240 But I got the fact.

00:36:01.340 It's Dracula.

00:36:02.160 No, actually, it is C.

00:36:03.620 Harvard.

00:36:04.300 Yeah.

00:36:04.860 All right.

00:36:05.400 No, you know, say what you will about Yale.

00:36:07.240 They never, they made a lot of missteps over the years. 0.94

00:36:10.700 They never took money from the creepy island pedo billionaire super spy. 0.84

00:36:16.060 They never took it. 0.89

00:36:16.820 Not a dollar to my knowledge.

00:36:18.820 Vampire. 0.94

00:36:19.420 Vampire. 0.56

00:36:20.120 It was royal vampire.

00:36:22.000 Yeah.

00:36:22.620 All right.

00:36:22.820 Number 15.

00:36:23.720 What is the name of the 72-acre New Mexico property purchased by Epstein in 1998, which is reportedly being turned into a luxury resort?

00:36:31.880 Gross.

00:36:32.540 What's the name of that place? 0.95

00:36:35.500 So is his island.

00:36:36.700 Do you know this?

00:36:37.120 We'll get there.

00:36:39.120 We'll get there.

00:36:39.700 We'll get there.

00:36:39.720 We'll get there.

00:36:39.780 We'll get there.

00:36:39.800 We'll get there.

00:36:39.880 We'll get there.

00:36:39.940 We'll get there.

00:36:40.220 We'll get there.

00:36:40.440 We'll get there.

00:36:40.700 Yeah.

00:36:42.660 You went there?

00:36:43.700 No, no.

00:36:44.020 I said, we'll get there later.

00:36:45.080 There's a question about that.

00:36:45.860 Oh, okay.

00:36:47.660 But do you know the name of the ranch, Michael?

00:36:49.240 Okay, so, you know, Reagan's ranch in California is called the Rancho del Cielo, and so I suggested Jeffrey Epstein's was Rancho del Hello.

00:37:08.380 All right, Benny, what do you got?

00:37:09.340 Zorro Ranch.

00:37:10.220 Zorro Ranch.

00:37:11.500 Zorro, I never would have gotten it.

00:37:13.160 There's still time, Michael, to come back.

00:37:14.940 There's still time.

00:37:15.600 There isn't.

00:37:16.180 Number 16, what is the name of the larger neighboring island Epstein also purchased?

00:37:22.520 Is it A, Great St. Thomas, B, St. Croix West, C, Great St. James, D, St. Andrew Kay?

00:37:36.320 I'm taking a guess here.

00:37:37.980 I'm taking a total guess.

00:37:38.820 I don't know.

00:37:41.140 I have not been.

00:37:42.200 I really would love to break in that island.

00:37:47.160 He's talking like a kind of guy who's been.

00:37:48.780 You notice that?

00:37:49.480 He's like, I totally, I'm just guessing.

00:37:52.100 I don't know.

00:37:53.420 I haven't been.

00:37:55.140 There are these YouTubers, Tyler Oliveira, Luke Rudowski.

00:37:58.540 They're great, and they've, like, went and broke into the island.

00:38:01.700 Not while Jeffrey Epstein was in charge of it, but, like, soon after.

00:38:07.080 The temple was all boarded up, which I thought was very interesting.

00:38:09.740 That'd be cool to get into the temple.

00:38:11.660 I heard it was, like, a piano room or something.

00:38:15.860 What do you have, Michael?

00:38:17.000 I said St. Andrew Kay, because I thought the Prince Andrew thing would be a funny tie-in.

00:38:22.660 The correct answer is C, Great St. James, the island next to it, at the time of his death.

00:38:27.140 Really?

00:38:27.380 Yep.

00:38:27.880 So I got that one?

00:38:28.780 Yeah.

00:38:28.940 I assumed if there's a little St. James, there's, like, the way that the nomenclature works back in the day.

00:38:34.400 Yeah.

00:38:34.820 Like, I assumed there would be, like, there's a New York, right?

00:38:38.040 There's going to be big and little, and they weren't really that.

00:38:40.360 What I don't get, though, why would you, if your main island is little St. James, and it's off the coast of St. Thomas,

00:38:45.720 if your main island is little St. James, why would you then buy big St. James and not just upgrade to that one?

00:38:51.720 Like, why would you say, like, oh, I only own little St. James when you got the big Magilla?

00:38:56.760 Little St. James had all the tunnels.

00:38:58.200 Yeah, I guess it's true.

00:38:59.920 It had the pagan temples and stuff.

00:39:01.920 All the tunnels.

00:39:02.860 And Benny's right.

00:39:03.460 They are turning into a luxury resort, which is wild, almost as wild as how much Benny won by in this game.

00:39:10.700 So, Benny, since this is a gentleman's sport, this doesn't have to end here.

00:39:16.060 You can go double or nothing, all for broke.

00:39:19.540 One last bonus question, only if you want to, because you've already kind of taken away the lead here.

00:39:23.880 Totally.

00:39:24.380 Let's go.

00:39:25.060 He's doing it.

00:39:25.680 Okay, here we go.

00:39:26.940 Double or nothing.

00:39:28.240 At the time of his death in 2019, what was Jeffrey Epstein's reported net worth?

00:39:34.080 Close without going over.

00:39:37.940 Bro, if he ends this game at 18 to nothing, that's going to be so sad.

00:39:44.040 And this was the federal prosecutors, what they cited.

00:39:49.140 At the time of his death, what was his net worth?

00:39:51.560 Mm-hmm.

00:39:52.360 Benny, what do you have?

00:39:52.980 At $3 billion.

00:39:55.360 Total random stab.

00:39:56.760 $3 billion?

00:39:57.580 I say $382 million.

00:40:01.340 That is a wild difference between you two.

00:40:04.820 The correct answer, according to federal prosecutors cited, the net worth of roughly $577 million in court filings in July 2019.

00:40:14.380 Michael knows so much.

00:40:16.220 Whoa.

00:40:16.800 He did it.

00:40:17.360 He did it.

00:40:18.240 He did it.

00:40:21.520 Played a win.

00:40:22.680 I just want to be clear about this.

00:40:24.980 I'm the greatest to ever do it.

00:40:26.580 I'm the best to ever play this game.

00:40:28.140 I did not know almost anything going in.

00:40:30.940 Benny did all the work.

00:40:32.960 And then a fluke bonus question gets me my points.

00:40:38.780 18 to nothing.

00:40:39.760 Let's go, baby.

00:40:40.800 Whoa.

00:40:41.720 Whoa.

00:40:42.760 But yeah, I should have given you a heads up that Michael has won so many of these games on the last bonus question.

00:40:46.800 Just with the Hail Mary last one.

00:40:49.080 Whoa.

00:40:49.960 Crazy.

00:40:50.160 But hey. 0.68

00:40:50.600 I don't care.

00:40:51.220 It's fun.

00:40:51.740 To the winner goes to spoils.

00:40:53.460 So, Benny, will you please, we'll start a clock.

00:40:55.220 Will you please give us a 30-second commercial for why people should tune in to The Michael Knowles Show?

00:41:00.020 The Michael Knowles Show, ladies and gentlemen, brought to you by The Daily Wire and Mayflower Cigars.

00:41:06.920 I know this as a matter of fact.

00:41:09.080 Mayflower Cigars best enjoyed outside of the vice president's house after a couple of hard, strong bourbon drinks.

00:41:20.100 And the vice president's staff yelling at us to get out and to not smoke so close to the home because there are children there.

00:41:28.140 And that, ladies and gentlemen, is why you should be watching The Michael Knowles Show.

00:41:33.600 No other show will put some of the most Secret Service protected children in the country at risk.

00:41:42.360 It is Michael Knowles.

00:41:43.800 And in the theme of the show, that is, of course, the greatest endorsement.

00:41:49.420 Not only did you pitch the show, you also pitched Mayflower.

00:41:53.840 And it's true, the hour was late, some drinks had been had, people had left.

00:42:00.240 And then Benny was like, hey, Knowles, I'm not leaving without a cigar.

00:42:03.380 We've got to have a cigar.

00:42:04.520 And I said, well, I actually don't think you're allowed to smoke at the vice president's house.

00:42:09.100 I said, nah, but it'll be funny for the story.

00:42:10.880 Come on, we've got to do it.

00:42:11.780 And then he cajoles a staff member to let us do it.

00:42:15.480 And it was great.

00:42:16.320 We were out there hanging with Secret Service.

00:42:19.680 If I were Secret Service, I would have shot us that day.

00:42:22.640 But anyway, it was great.

00:42:23.300 We lit the cigars with like the little miniature like votive Christmas candles that they had like sitting there for decoration.

00:42:30.760 It's like the decoration candles.

00:42:31.920 We actually swiped a couple of them because nobody had a lighter.

00:42:35.600 It was good.

00:42:36.440 It's one of my favorite Mayflower memories.

00:42:38.980 Never getting invited back.

00:42:40.180 By the way, it was snowing.

00:42:41.300 It was like snowing, like blizzard level snow.

00:42:43.100 So it was like epic.

00:42:44.740 It was very beautiful.

00:42:45.440 It was very beautiful.

00:42:46.320 I agree.

00:42:46.960 Yeah.

00:42:47.320 That was epic.

00:42:48.160 Just like that, Reid.

00:42:49.160 Benny, thank you so much.

00:42:50.140 And if you haven't already, go subscribe to The Benny Johnson Show on YouTube and follow Benny everywhere at Benny Johnson.

00:42:55.660 Also, drop us a comment of who we should have on next and what topic we should tackle in the next episode of Face Off.

The Michael Knowles Show - February 21, 2026

The Epstein Files： Benny Johnson Vs Michael Knowles ｜ FACE OFF

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