The Michael Knowles Show - The NUCLEAR Option ｜ Steven Crowder

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00:00:44.000 You may not have seen a lot of Steven Crowder lately.

00:00:47.500 Why is that?

00:00:48.880 Where has this international man of mystery gone?

00:00:51.980 Is it because he has COVID?

00:00:54.640 I don't know, maybe.

00:00:55.580 He does have the sniffles, and he's got a box of tissues on his desk.

00:00:58.180 Is it because he's gone to the other side of the world?

00:01:01.980 No, it's because YouTube is taking him down, like they've been doing more and more in recent days.

00:01:08.220 What did Steven do now?

00:01:10.120 We will find out.

00:01:10.920 Steven, thank you for being here.

00:01:12.760 Thank you for having me, sir.

00:01:14.540 I apologize that I sound like Hunter Biden on a parmbender, but I'm very sick.

00:01:19.380 The only thing that I know it's not is COVID because of many, many tests that I've done.

00:01:25.260 Wow, that's true.

00:01:25.960 I'm sure you've taken a bunch of tests, and now, you know, even if you want to walk into, like, a Starbucks, I think you've got to get three negative COVID tests.

00:01:33.480 So you actually didn't remember that anyone could get sick with anything else over the past year other than COVID.

00:01:40.780 I know.

00:01:41.220 No, believe me, I was in the same boat.

00:01:42.560 Turns out the flu is still a thing.

00:01:43.820 And it turns out that there's pneumonia, bronchitis, these things still exist.

00:01:48.280 As a matter of fact, it's almost more likely for some of you out there to get it, depending where you are.

00:01:53.680 And depending on your age demographic, you know, if you're a young, healthy person, you might be more likely to experience these symptoms like I have, where, you know, if I could check off a list, hey, which symptoms of everything that I have, you know, the throat that feels like the device from seven had been jammed into it, the nasal drip, or a slight loss of taste and smell, I would pick that.

00:02:13.080 That's what I would pick.

00:02:13.960 Yes.

00:02:14.860 But, wow, I'm so upset that not only are you going to get yourself kicked off YouTube, now that you have suggested that some people are less likely than others to get COVID, you're going to get me kicked off of YouTube, too.

00:02:26.360 And then where are we going to be?

00:02:28.040 I know.

00:02:28.440 How dare we suggest it?

00:02:29.940 It's almost as risky as suggesting that if people are vaccinated, they don't need to wear masks.

00:02:35.840 Here we go.

00:02:36.460 Here we go.

00:02:37.080 And retroactively, we don't fix those bans, do we?

00:02:40.360 We don't fix the bans of people who said that.

00:02:42.280 They were removed from social media platforms until Fauci said, well, you know, it really was Theta because I didn't want to send the wrong message.

00:02:49.500 Okay, great.

00:02:50.100 Well, I think we sent the wrong message by banning people who were actually following the science.

00:02:53.460 And who were right.

00:02:54.140 You know, this brings up, there was a fact check.

00:02:56.720 I think it was, I forget if it was PolitiFact.

00:02:58.320 I guess it was PolitiFact.

00:02:59.660 They came out and they said, oh, my God, I'm going to get COVID just from sitting on the, oh, gosh.

00:03:05.040 I can feel it over here.

00:03:07.200 I saw this fact check where someone said early on, it looks like the Wuhan Institute of Virology was associated with this leak.

00:03:15.440 And they got a big fact check from PolitiFact.

00:03:18.560 This is wrong.

00:03:19.540 Seven zillion Pinocchios.

00:03:21.000 And then they had to put an editor's note on the fact check.

00:03:23.420 And they said, oh, actually, yeah, maybe it was.

00:03:25.440 Where's the, where's the apology?

00:03:26.780 Where's the take putting them back on YouTube?

00:03:28.640 Where's the reinstituting their social media platforms?

00:03:31.560 I mean, this is right.

00:03:32.980 I don't, I don't think it was COVID that got you booted this time.

00:03:35.380 Can you tell us anything about why you're off YouTube right now?

00:03:38.800 Can I tell you anything?

00:03:40.720 Yes.

00:03:41.240 A few things.

00:03:42.000 So first off, let me preface it with this, because you and I both know that there, you want to do your show.

00:03:47.260 I want to do my show.

00:03:48.100 There are some people who thrive off of just social media drama who, oh, they have a Twitter temporary suspension.

00:03:54.020 And they want, this is not that.

00:03:55.700 Like, we've done hundreds of shows.

00:03:57.800 We do hours of content, you know, we get more viewers on a live show than Jimmy Kimmel, than Jimmy Fallon.

00:04:05.880 Okay, that's what I want to do.

00:04:07.760 This is different.

00:04:09.020 We have submitted a notice.

00:04:10.640 We are filing a lawsuit with YouTube and an immediate injunction, request of injunction, because, as you know, on YouTube, if you have three strikes, your account is gone forever.

00:04:21.520 Okay, so we had the Vox apocalypse.

00:04:23.480 This happened a while back, and they found that we violated no policies, right?

00:04:26.240 So they demonetized us, then they re-monetized us, and they demonetized us.

00:04:29.200 And we've always said, your sandbox, okay, your rules, 230 may have something to say about it.

00:04:33.880 But in this case, actually, COVID was one of them.

00:04:36.500 So the first, I don't remember the exact order, but for people out there who aren't paying attention, and we're still broadcasting, by the way, live at livewithcrowder.com slash mug club.

00:04:45.400 And the free content is available on Rumble right now until we're able to stream back on YouTube, and it remains to be seen.

00:04:52.360 The first strike, which wasn't a strike, which was a warning, was about election, about voter fraud, I should say.

00:04:59.300 Because we made it very clear.

00:05:00.520 We never discussed mass election fraud.

00:05:02.380 We never said the ghost of Hugo Chavez, rigged the Dominion voting machines, and Donald Trump was the rightful, you know, president who won re-election.

00:05:10.260 What we did do, and it became a joke with my lawyer, was I said, what, look, just like Amy Klobuchar, just like Elizabeth Warren, just like Jimmy Carter, where we talked, they talked about, they had commissions to say, hey, voter fraud, which can occur, is one of the biggest threats to our national security, to our national democracy.

00:05:24.060 That was them.

00:05:25.180 Yeah, yeah.

00:05:25.580 And it occurs more with mail-in voting.

00:05:28.000 They said that.

00:05:28.780 Obama said it, too.

00:05:29.380 Okay, can we talk?

00:05:30.460 Yes, exactly.

00:05:31.140 I asked my lawyer, can we say that?

00:05:32.220 Yes.

00:05:32.860 Can we cross-reference voters with the current voter rolls and the addresses that don't exist?

00:05:37.740 And if we go on Google Earth and show that it doesn't exist as an address, can I just talk about those?

00:05:40.900 He said, nope, because Google Earth is not up to date.

00:05:42.920 I said, what if I sent interns that day with a copy of that day's newspaper live on camera to show that it's an overpass or an empty lot, double, triple confirmed?

00:05:51.260 He said, if you're willing to do that, sure, fine.

00:05:53.860 And we actually booked tickets to Nevada and Michigan and did it.

00:05:57.120 That was removed.

00:05:58.560 Okay?

00:05:59.020 Now, we didn't get a real reason.

00:06:00.080 They just said, well, you know, this violates election policy.

00:06:03.800 I believe that was the warning.

00:06:05.200 Then one of them was for COVID.

00:06:06.440 One was a warning.

00:06:07.280 One was a hard strike.

00:06:08.140 Well, they should have been considered hard strikes.

00:06:09.620 You know, listen, tomato, I say, you know, Orwellian.

00:06:13.300 Yeah.

00:06:13.480 So, the COVID one, we did a one-year anniversary to 15 days to flatten the curve.

00:06:20.000 And we went through the sequence of all of the science.

00:06:23.620 So, for example, we had a montage of Fauci saying, don't wear a mask.

00:06:28.340 A mask is actually worse because people touch their face and touching their face.

00:06:31.680 And then we had him saying, do wear a mask.

00:06:33.240 We had the Surgeon General saying, stop buying masks and then saying, do buy a mask.

00:06:35.760 But then we had him saying, double masking is unnecessary.

00:06:38.380 You guys should double mask.

00:06:39.480 Double masking.

00:06:40.060 So, we went through all of this, right?

00:06:41.780 And keep in mind, I think we're the only show that does this.

00:06:44.280 We provide all of our references, like a bibliography, at loudearthcredit.com.

00:06:47.700 Every day.

00:06:48.180 Every single show.

00:06:48.940 Wow.

00:06:49.040 Our sources for this episode were primarily the CDC and the World Health Organization.

00:06:53.840 And they're never specific.

00:06:56.200 And these aren't really violations.

00:06:58.000 But I believe the statement that got us into trouble, and I'm sorry, hopefully this doesn't

00:07:01.980 get anyone into trouble, was something along the lines of, and so I will make sure that 0.98

00:07:05.500 it's not specific, but we brought up an image of the CDC mortality charts and said COVID is

00:07:11.620 significantly more lethal than the flu to old people.

00:07:15.020 And we need to recognize that and treat it properly.

00:07:17.720 For some reason, it's significantly less lethal than the flu exclusively to young people.

00:07:24.760 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:07:26.360 That was it.

00:07:27.420 That was going against, that was considered medical misinformation.

00:07:30.320 This is the sort of thing, you know, my wife was pregnant during COVID.

00:07:33.800 We'd go into the doctors and we'd say, gosh, do we need to be worried about this for the

00:07:37.120 baby?

00:07:37.580 Because, you know, flu is actually kind of a big deal if you're pregnant. 0.95

00:07:40.860 Yes.

00:07:41.460 But the doctors, all of them said, no, actually, for whatever reason, COVID is not really

00:07:47.680 a threat to the babies or to pregnant mothers, so you don't need to worry about it as much

00:07:51.280 as you would for something like the flu.

00:07:52.940 I mean, this is not some kooky conspiracy theory.

00:07:55.680 I just went through, I mean, my wife is pregnant with twins right now, and I am up in the den

00:08:00.040 in the far wing of the house like Dracula, like Castlevania version of Dracula, you know,

00:08:04.540 where I'm slightly charming but still a little bit intimidating, and I just emerged from my

00:08:08.240 coffin to do the show and hack into a mug.

00:08:10.760 Yeah.

00:08:10.920 This is, we're going through this right now.

00:08:12.260 We just had that conversation.

00:08:13.940 That conversation could result in a strike or a ban.

00:08:18.220 Wow.

00:08:18.400 Now, the final, this is the one that just happened that was the second strike, and again, I,

00:08:22.360 you know, we don't have specific answers.

00:08:24.300 Here's, it's one thing to have a rule book, people to understand it, and they break the

00:08:28.020 rules, fair ball.

00:08:29.420 You know what I mean?

00:08:29.740 This happens all the time in sports where you go, I don't agree with the call, but okay,

00:08:33.700 it's in the rules.

00:08:34.620 You know, this happens like in MMA.

00:08:35.920 You grab my shorts, you're not allowed, but the ref didn't call it.

00:08:38.520 I have to accept the results.

00:08:39.940 That's not what's going on right now.

00:08:41.020 The recent strike was, let me be as clear as, I'm trying to be as succinct as possible so I

00:08:46.040 don't bore people.

00:08:46.700 Remember the police officer, the hero who saved a young girl of color in Ohio who was

00:08:52.020 about to be stabbed?

00:08:52.920 No, I'm sorry.

00:08:53.980 I only remember the vicious monster who wouldn't even allow that young, wonderful girl to stab

00:09:00.460 the other girl to death and who was imposing his white supremacy on her.

00:09:03.780 Yeah.

00:09:04.120 Yes.

00:09:04.720 Ed Furlong in a bomber jacket.

00:09:05.900 Yes, correct.

00:09:06.640 No, so we talked about this on air, and I said, not only, not only do I think this was

00:09:12.220 a justified shooting, I think it was a necessary shooting the police officer.

00:09:15.920 I think it'd be an abdication of duty if you don't shoot someone while they are attempting

00:09:20.100 to penetrate someone's flesh with a knife.

00:09:22.900 Yes.

00:09:23.880 And this was celebrating, and by the way, I make no apologies.

00:09:27.540 Sometimes people go, it's always a tragedy.

00:09:29.200 Nope, nope.

00:09:29.680 Look, this is not one of those equivocations.

00:09:32.460 Sure, we wish that people wouldn't lose their lives.

00:09:34.380 But I actually think that once someone has made a decision to put someone else's life

00:09:38.160 in danger, the happy ending is the innocent civilian is saved lawfully by the police officer.

00:09:43.220 Yeah.

00:09:43.400 That was considered broadly harassment, bullying because of reveling in the death of apparently

00:09:50.120 Micaiah Bryant, which we did not do.

00:09:52.240 Now, look, people need to understand that as comedians, as a comedian, this is a comedy

00:09:56.260 show.

00:09:56.620 There's a difference between when we're joking about things, when we're covering stories.

00:09:59.020 That's why we provide our references.

00:10:01.220 But this is not about what we're doing.

00:10:04.960 I think a lot of people can sort of, you know, you look at like Alex Jones at one point was

00:10:08.540 deplatformed, and I disagree with Alex Jones on a whole lot.

00:10:11.100 I didn't think I deserved to be deplatformed.

00:10:12.400 I think a lot of people can separate themselves from what they view as extremism.

00:10:15.960 Look, I am basic pumpkin spice latte, basic conservatism, a Christian conservative who came

00:10:22.520 to notoriety because Amy Schumer attacked me for talking about how I wasn't having sex until 0.94

00:10:26.720 I was married.

00:10:27.380 And these points of view, YouTube is saying you cannot say that the science matters that

00:10:33.080 two-year-olds shouldn't mask, according to the CDC.

00:10:35.720 You cannot say that voter fraud occurs on an individual level and agree with Amy Klobuchar

00:10:40.640 or Elizabeth Warren. 0.92

00:10:41.420 You are not welcome to say on our platform, good for you, police officer, for a fraction

00:10:46.580 of a second, placing a perfect shot to save someone's life.

00:10:49.840 That is saying, if they remove us here from YouTube, and we have good reason to believe

00:10:53.020 that they're looking for other potential violations because these aren't actual

00:10:57.040 violations, as far as we know, we really haven't gotten the specificity.

00:11:00.460 This is tantamount to saying half the country, your points of view are not welcome on this

00:11:06.040 platform.

00:11:06.640 There is no extremist here.

00:11:07.960 This is really important because I guess the line here that they're pushing is, you know,

00:11:12.580 your joke went too far about Makia Bryant.

00:11:15.260 But what you're saying is, no, it's not a joke.

00:11:16.800 I mean, I made the same point on my show.

00:11:18.200 I said, yeah, it's sad.

00:11:19.460 You know, it's sad that this is a fallen world and people do bad things and they face consequences

00:11:23.140 when they do it.

00:11:24.000 But this is a good conclusion when someone is about to be stabbed.

00:11:28.480 It is good that a cop goes in and saves that person's life.

00:11:31.840 There's nothing that's a joke about that.

00:11:34.420 And the other thing here that when I see the coverage every time you get suspended or they

00:11:39.560 try to deplatform you, you see it in Media Matters or any of the other leftist organizations.

00:11:43.660 They'll go out and they'll say far right, extremist, radical right winger Stephen Crowder.

00:11:49.660 And I think, you know, I don't, they're obviously being disingenuous and dishonest when it's

00:11:54.500 Media Matters or Right Wing Watch or any of those other groups.

00:11:57.380 But I bet a lot of other people out there might not realize how pumpkin spice you are.

00:12:04.140 They might not realize.

00:12:05.140 I mean, look, I spend a lot of my day reading far radical leftist content, watching far radical

00:12:10.980 leftist content and watching far radical right wing content.

00:12:14.140 I mean, really out there stuff.

00:12:16.000 And I'm, and then some stuff in the middle too.

00:12:17.540 You are, I say this, it's going to sound like an insult almost.

00:12:23.420 No, I understand what you're about to say.

00:12:24.680 You are about as mainstream as it gets.

00:12:26.720 If they go after you, they are, it's not like it's the fringe radical right.

00:12:31.280 If they go after you and they deplatform you, what they are saying is anyone in this country

00:12:36.040 who identifies as conservative is no longer welcome here.

00:12:40.040 That is exactly what, and I hate to, because I don't want to be a martyr.

00:12:43.340 I want to do the show, but this is, this program is the biggest conservative program that's

00:12:47.180 ever existed on, it's ever existed on a new media platform period.

00:12:49.920 Yeah.

00:12:50.500 Certainly on YouTube.

00:12:52.080 Billions of plays.

00:12:53.520 And look, I defy people, point out to me my most extreme right wing view.

00:12:58.900 Ending the drug war.

00:13:00.400 Yeah.

00:13:00.920 What, heartbeat bills for abortion?

00:13:03.300 A flat tax?

00:13:04.480 Yeah.

00:13:04.660 Non-interventionism unless our country's security is at stake?

00:13:10.340 Free open markets where people have to be transparent?

00:13:13.860 I don't know.

00:13:15.060 I couldn't point to any radical points of view.

00:13:17.180 What I would say is what they probably try and say is, well, we didn't like the way you

00:13:20.260 said it.

00:13:21.120 And the only thing, this didn't come from YouTube as far as I know, people were mad because

00:13:25.440 they said, well, you joked about Mekhi Bryant being overweight.

00:13:28.200 First off, maybe I did.

00:13:29.600 But the statement that I made was at this time, people need to understand at this moment

00:13:33.540 in history, when we went out there and we did this stream, for example, LeBron James

00:13:37.040 had just tweeted out, you're next to this police officer.

00:13:39.860 And the story was a police officer showed up, Mekhi Bryant called the police and he showed

00:13:45.200 up and shot her.

00:13:47.060 That was it.

00:13:47.960 And she didn't have a knife.

00:13:49.080 So we had to correct that.

00:13:50.340 And it was a 16 year old girl.

00:13:51.720 And I said, look, this isn't a 15, this is a 230 pound woman who was mid-step. 1.00

00:13:55.980 And that matters.

00:13:56.880 That matters.

00:13:57.340 I don't remember if it was Joe Lewis.

00:13:58.280 It might've been Marvin Hagler who said, listen, the size of someone matters, regardless

00:14:02.200 of age.

00:14:02.620 He said, I remember he was talking about, I think it might've been Marvin Hagler.

00:14:05.160 I could be wrong.

00:14:06.080 Or he was about to fight someone who they thought was a stepping stone.

00:14:08.420 And they said, what are you saying to people who say your opponent doesn't have a shot?

00:14:10.600 He said, it's a 200 pound man.

00:14:13.540 I don't care who you are.

00:14:14.220 A 200 pound man hits you.

00:14:16.000 He has a shot.

00:14:17.060 Yeah.

00:14:17.360 And that's what matters.

00:14:18.080 It is very relevant.

00:14:19.720 Yes.

00:14:19.920 It's relevant in how police approach it.

00:14:21.540 Just like it's relevant how the immune system of a four year old reacts differently to a novel

00:14:26.760 virus than a 64 year old.

00:14:28.920 And people tell us that we need to follow the science.

00:14:31.440 We need to follow the truth.

00:14:32.680 Well, where are your sources?

00:14:35.120 Rachel Maddow, New York Times.

00:14:36.480 We always try to be as transparent as possible.

00:14:39.160 And it's, look, could I go off and do something like mug club?

00:14:42.560 Sure.

00:14:42.760 There are ways to make a living when you're not on these platforms.

00:14:45.200 And I hope that there's an alternative at some point where people in the future can make

00:14:48.600 a living.

00:14:49.240 But I started this in 2009.

00:14:51.680 I started YouTube in 2006.

00:14:52.740 I started doing political videos in 2008 or 2009 with a blue bed sheet in my den.

00:14:57.500 There was no money.

00:14:58.940 Okay.

00:14:59.100 There were no conservatives.

00:15:00.380 Now, I know there's been sort of a mean factory sort of people talk about alt-right.

00:15:04.020 This was long before that.

00:15:05.420 Now, this is a business.

00:15:06.240 I'm soon to be a father of two with 12 people, 12 to 15 people who I employ depending on the

00:15:11.080 day, depending on the interns who are here.

00:15:13.240 And I don't know that there can ever be another young Steven Crowder coming up.

00:15:18.280 I don't know that there can ever be another Rush Limbaugh because the entire town square,

00:15:22.760 the entire digital town square is controlled by effectively three companies, Facebook,

00:15:27.080 you know, Google Alphabet, YouTube, and Twitter.

00:15:29.540 And certainly then if you include Amazon and Apple, who also control the app stores and

00:15:33.520 the ability to even get a competing application up there, I don't know if you're not allowed

00:15:38.900 to say, hey, officer, not even blanket back the blue.

00:15:42.200 Hey, officer, thanks for saving that girl's life and shooting that woman while she was trying 0.82

00:15:46.640 to stab her. 0.71

00:15:47.100 If you're not allowed to say that on YouTube, I don't see how anyone could censor themselves

00:15:52.160 to come up and carry the torch behind us.

00:15:56.200 And that's really what is scary to me.

00:15:58.180 And by the way, let's say now you're just going to do your show.

00:16:00.940 It's only going to be Mug Club.

00:16:02.080 It's all going to be private.

00:16:03.020 You, you'll go onto some private website and, and by the way, they'll try to shut that down

00:16:07.940 too, just like they shut Parler off of Amazon Web Services.

00:16:10.700 But then let's say, okay, you find some other server and you're going to host it and that's

00:16:14.400 great.

00:16:14.740 And you're going to be on, you know, Stephen Crowder's special secret Mug Club dot club 0.97

00:16:19.620 dot mug dot org or whatever.

00:16:21.040 And they can't get at you.

00:16:22.640 Okay.

00:16:23.580 It is simply the case that even if you bring over a huge portion of your audience, that

00:16:28.020 is going to be ghettoizing your extremely mainstream conservative content.

00:16:32.820 And so you're going to, you'll get, you'll get to keep some of your viewers.

00:16:35.940 But by the way, the, the whole point of YouTube or these other social media platforms that have

00:16:40.740 gotten a critical mass and now control the flow of information around the internet is discovery.

00:16:45.440 So sure, maybe you get to eke out a living and maybe some of your most diehard fans who

00:16:50.320 can follow you and keep track of all this stuff.

00:16:52.080 And they're very tech savvy.

00:16:53.060 They'll follow you, but it's okay.

00:16:55.200 The big blob, the liberal establishment's fine with that because no, no one else is going

00:16:59.680 to discover you and they'll keep their control over the information.

00:17:02.860 And then they'll go and write New York times columns, pitching about an echo chamber, right?

00:17:06.300 They'll say, we need to stop the radicalization.

00:17:07.960 So you got rid of the guy who wrote about not having sex until marriage.

00:17:12.000 You got rid of the guy who said, you know what?

00:17:14.120 Uh, actually you already do have to pass a background check to, uh, legally purchase a

00:17:18.100 firearm.

00:17:18.480 You got rid of the guy who said, I come from a country where we don't have a first amendment.

00:17:21.660 And so the first amendment is really important to me and defended liberals who I do not like

00:17:26.280 and their right to speak freely.

00:17:27.640 You got rid of that.

00:17:28.760 Like you said, basic mainstream, basic conservatism, right?

00:17:32.620 Seasonal Starbucks.

00:17:34.180 Um, and then you complain about an echo chamber.

00:17:37.000 Whereas people who don't believe that the police should exist at all, nor, nor prison systems

00:17:43.400 exist at all.

00:17:44.620 People are like, oh, you're taking fringe.

00:17:46.080 No, I'm taking United States representatives in Rashida Tlaib, in Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez,

00:17:51.300 in Ilhan Omar, people who Joe Biden has praised.

00:17:53.520 These are mainstream leftists and they hold far more extreme views.

00:17:58.100 Yeah.

00:17:58.260 Far more extreme views.

00:17:59.760 Um, and it's just ironic to me that then they complain about an echo chamber.

00:18:03.480 But really, look, I've always said this before is, is when they demonetize us, everyone

00:18:07.580 else made a big deal about that.

00:18:08.860 And I said, I don't care.

00:18:11.180 Obviously I care, right?

00:18:12.260 I run a business and it does, and it hurts everybody here.

00:18:14.400 But I say, if you don't have to, uh, YouTube, they don't have to pay us for the content.

00:18:19.480 Now, that being said, sometimes ads were run anyway.

00:18:21.840 I'm like, well, someone's making some money.

00:18:23.080 Also, I've run ads on YouTube and they said, well, advertisers don't want to be associated

00:18:26.640 with your content.

00:18:27.300 And they go, hold on a second.

00:18:27.780 When I run ads, I can't run my videos as ads on the kind of content I would like to sponsor.

00:18:33.080 You preclude me as both an advertiser and you preclude me as a content creator.

00:18:38.880 Who are these, who are these people making?

00:18:40.560 Well, they have three different sets of standards.

00:18:42.220 They have community guidelines.

00:18:43.280 Okay.

00:18:43.700 This is determined by YouTube, which is if you're bullying, harassing, you know, I just

00:18:47.500 think it should be the actual speech code laws.

00:18:49.200 If you're breaking the law, that's how simple it should be.

00:18:51.780 Then they have, uh, advertiser friendly guidelines.

00:18:54.720 Well, who determines that?

00:18:55.520 Well, we know it's not really the advertisers.

00:18:56.980 Certainly not me.

00:18:57.600 I'm an advertiser, right?

00:18:59.400 Yeah.

00:18:59.620 Yeah.

00:18:59.780 So we've never been polled.

00:19:01.700 So that's also determined by YouTube.

00:19:03.600 And then there's a third category now, borderline content, which isn't a violation of policy,

00:19:08.300 but they have other think tanks and organizations and strategic business partners who determine

00:19:13.860 if something is borderline.

00:19:14.920 And that's where this rests.

00:19:16.700 And from what I understand, they said, well, you didn't violate the guidelines per se, but

00:19:21.760 in totality, maybe there's a pattern of whatever it is, LGBTQ AIP or racism or something.

00:19:29.780 You know, cause this is a new thing, by the way.

00:19:31.480 I don't know if you know this.

00:19:32.560 We've always known that, you know, for example, blackface or you don't do blackface.

00:19:35.920 That's something you shouldn't do.

00:19:36.540 That's not new.

00:19:37.100 We've ever since we've grown up, we know white people don't do blackface.

00:19:39.340 There's no argument about that.

00:19:41.300 Trudeau, notwithstanding.

00:19:42.280 That's his raison d'etre.

00:19:43.400 Trudeau, yeah.

00:19:43.880 Or Northam.

00:19:45.400 Northam would be another one.

00:19:46.520 Or Joy Behar or Jimmy Kimmel.

00:19:48.920 Howard Stern.

00:19:49.000 Or, yeah.

00:19:50.220 But I guess we don't do it, is what you're saying.

00:19:52.520 No, we know that you don't do it.

00:19:54.340 But what's very new is you can't do an impression of someone who happens to be black.

00:19:59.200 Really?

00:19:59.340 Well, that's very new.

00:20:00.400 Really?

00:20:00.780 You've had white people.

00:20:02.100 Yeah.

00:20:02.400 They go, you're doing black voice.

00:20:04.140 Black voice.

00:20:05.220 What?

00:20:05.640 Yeah, black voice.

00:20:06.380 I mean, I was just watching a show, Life and Times of Tim, one of my favorite shows.

00:20:09.440 It's a white guy playing a black female hooker on the show.

00:20:12.460 It's a voice.

00:20:12.980 Yeah.

00:20:13.240 That's what they switch out of poo. 0.96

00:20:14.300 So now they try and say retroactively, well, this is, now this is racist.

00:20:18.100 You can't do a lisp because it might be mocking LGBT.

00:20:20.720 They just keep changing the rules and act as though it's the same as using the N-word

00:20:24.580 or blackface.

00:20:25.220 And it's not.

00:20:26.360 And I think that people need to be very clear about that.

00:20:28.720 And to be clear about it, you just need to be able to, it's not hard.

00:20:31.360 Well, there's a historical connotation with blackface and minstrel shows.

00:20:34.960 The N-word was created from the ground up to oppress.

00:20:36.980 It's not because we view the world through the lens of oppressor and the oppressed.

00:20:40.720 It's because the word was designed to hurt.

00:20:42.880 Yeah, right.

00:20:43.880 Other words have been changed and morphed and reappropriated so that there's a war against

00:20:48.580 language.

00:20:49.320 And so my issue, sorry to go back to the point here.

00:20:52.240 Again, I'm a little sick, so this is flu head.

00:20:53.960 This brings up actually a pretty important point though, because I remember when they

00:20:56.980 canceled Aunt Jemima, they said, you know, Aunt Jemima is racist. 1.00

00:21:01.000 And I said, well, actually, because she's a black woman. 1.00

00:21:02.660 I said, well, you can't have black women on products now? 1.00

00:21:04.420 They say, no, it's because that woman is offensive. 1.00

00:21:07.820 I said, well, you know, it was a black model who portrayed Aunt Jemima.

00:21:10.740 They said, yeah, but that was, she didn't realize how oppressive it was.

00:21:13.940 And I said, I looked up and I said, well, actually, you know, it was a black comedian

00:21:17.760 who created the character Aunt Jemima, Billy Kersands, who was a minstrel performer.

00:21:22.900 He wasn't a white guy in blackface.

00:21:24.120 He was a black guy.

00:21:25.040 He was the writer who popularized this character, Aunt Jemima.

00:21:27.940 So now you've got some 27-year-old, almost certainly, I don't have evidence of this,

00:21:33.660 but I'd bet the farm on it, a white chick working in some marketing department in the 1.00

00:21:39.580 company that owns Aunt Jemima, saying that we need to cancel a black actress, a black 0.99

00:21:44.420 character, and a black writer because it would be offensive to black people that she's feeling 1.00

00:21:49.560 on behalf as a white woman.

00:21:50.640 And not only that, we've said, hey, white people who, by the way, were the largest consumers

00:21:55.760 of Aunt Jemima, you're not allowed to be comforted by a southern black lady, which, by the way, 0.70

00:22:01.580 it was, the reason it was marketable is because there were enough white people in this country

00:22:05.980 who thought that was appealing and thought Aunt Jemima was likable, that it was, it was

00:22:10.100 comfort food.

00:22:11.560 If you're a racist, you don't have Aunt Jemima on your table.

00:22:14.200 You don't.

00:22:14.680 But guess what?

00:22:15.060 If you're a racist, you never have to see Aunt Jemima on your table again.

00:22:18.260 Win one for the racists.

00:22:19.400 And the issue, so the issue here, I mean, I look, I feel like I'm living in a parallel

00:22:23.300 universe here.

00:22:24.500 And Whitlock, actually, Jason Whitlock made the point.

00:22:27.020 He said, I think the reason that people like myself or people like you get in trouble where

00:22:31.380 people say that's racist is because there is not even a shred of racism.

00:22:36.040 When there's no shred of racism in your personal life, you feel free to communicate authentically.

00:22:41.020 You're not worried about the landmines because, I mean, we have, I mean, in this office alone,

00:22:45.160 we have what?

00:22:45.580 We have four Asians.

00:22:46.560 We have a biracial.

00:22:47.820 We have, we have Colombians.

00:22:48.980 Four and a half.

00:22:49.580 Pretty sure we have, we have, pretty sure we have two gays, but I don't want to out 1.00

00:22:52.380 them here.

00:22:53.240 We have, we have people who didn't even speak the language until a couple of years ago.

00:22:58.080 This is a really surprisingly diverse office place and it's not even an issue.

00:23:02.760 So the issue here with, with YouTube though, is I didn't care about the demonetization

00:23:06.340 because I was saying, you don't have to pay me if you, that's fine.

00:23:08.800 Yeah.

00:23:08.920 Let us know what the violence, they read, they, they did a full audit of everything.

00:23:12.860 And so these aren't violations, but we would request that you, you know, maybe get rid

00:23:15.660 of these things.

00:23:16.060 We were public.

00:23:16.600 We told people YouTube wants us to get rid of these.

00:23:18.400 It wasn't a Spotify situation where they just disappeared.

00:23:21.020 We let people know these are YouTube's rules.

00:23:23.140 We're going to stay there.

00:23:24.120 And they remonetize us.

00:23:25.220 We didn't necessarily know why.

00:23:26.580 Then they demonetize us.

00:23:27.560 And now we're at a point where we're going, whoa, hold on.

00:23:30.360 What's the violation here?

00:23:32.060 Yeah.

00:23:32.520 And they're not being clear about it.

00:23:34.240 There is no other course of action at this point to maintain a livelihood for everyone

00:23:41.120 here, you know, and my future children.

00:23:43.620 And all we want to do is a show that's not even a strong PG-13, a show that could run on

00:23:49.900 FCC broadcasts on most days.

00:23:52.880 I'll give you that.

00:23:54.540 Right.

00:23:54.700 Of course, because it would seem to me what they're proving now in big tech is this old

00:24:00.660 line, you hear it in New York, which is you can indict a ham sandwich.

00:24:04.140 You can, they, I don't think they saw a violation and they said, that's it.

00:24:08.040 That's the line.

00:24:08.680 I think they, they decided they're going to get you.

00:24:12.480 This is enough.

00:24:13.140 We've had enough Crowder. 0.98

00:24:14.180 So we're going to get you.

00:24:15.260 Okay.

00:24:15.520 He didn't really cross the line.

00:24:16.920 Okay.

00:24:17.200 He didn't, he didn't violate this policy.

00:24:19.280 Well, now we have this kind of ridiculous category called borderline content.

00:24:23.080 The whole reason that you have the guidelines is so that you're either on one side of it

00:24:27.680 or the other.

00:24:28.080 So if you have borderline content, you, you obliterate the, the point of the guidelines

00:24:32.740 themselves, but okay, yeah, we'll use that.

00:24:34.700 And it's a little broad in any way.

00:24:36.140 We'll find something in the meantime, you're suspended.

00:24:39.140 That's what, that's what it is, right?

00:24:41.160 Yes.

00:24:41.580 Yes.

00:24:41.820 And I just want to make sure I have to, because I want to quote directly here for, for,

00:24:45.000 for effect, the exact terminology.

00:24:48.660 So maybe you need to have your censor button of Stephen Colbert and of Samantha Bee, because

00:24:52.200 I've had these conversations where they say, well, do you need to do this segment?

00:24:55.900 We have a segment called what a piece of shit.

00:24:57.720 And it usually involves a terrorist or maybe Don Lemon, something like that.

00:25:02.060 It's silly, right?

00:25:02.920 It's a redundant description, but sure.

00:25:05.160 Right, right.

00:25:05.560 Exactly.

00:25:06.380 And I said, you really shouldn't do that.

00:25:07.880 Or you know what?

00:25:08.240 You really shouldn't have accidentally missed.

00:25:10.280 You shouldn't have, one time was, you shouldn't have laughed when this transgender individual 1.00

00:25:15.500 threw a lunchbox at you and ran and tripped over their high heels when she was running

00:25:21.080 away.

00:25:21.880 And I said, okay, I can see how that offends you.

00:25:24.980 But is it anywhere near as close to calling our sitting president's mouth Putin's c**t

00:25:29.420 colster or the first lady a feckless c**t? 1.00

00:25:31.960 You have to use that as a standard.

00:25:33.820 Not, does this joke offend you?

00:25:35.720 Yeah.

00:25:35.880 It has to be applied equally.

00:25:37.220 And don't try and conflate a joke with a point.

00:25:41.300 And I think that's important.

00:25:42.520 And it's, listen, it's tough because we make both of those on this show.

00:25:45.640 It's really the only show that does it the way that we do.

00:25:48.240 It's why we've been incredibly successful.

00:25:50.360 And I don't say that out of arrogance.

00:25:51.860 I say it on my knees, Mr. Marley.

00:25:55.320 I say it on my knees, grateful for the fans that we have who have supported us.

00:26:00.000 And we've played by the rules as best we know how.

00:26:03.440 And now there are no other options.

00:26:05.060 And I don't want this fight.

00:26:06.140 But no one would want this fight.

00:26:08.140 I am absolutely a pat.

00:26:09.460 People don't know this about me.

00:26:11.540 I've never been in a fight.

00:26:13.120 Do you realize this?

00:26:13.540 In my adult life.

00:26:14.240 In a physical fight?

00:26:15.100 It's never happened.

00:26:15.720 In a physical fight.

00:26:16.480 Never.

00:26:16.740 It's never happened.

00:26:17.320 Not once.

00:26:18.500 I've been assaulted.

00:26:19.340 Yeah, people see the muscles in the gun and they just say, you know what?

00:26:21.980 Maybe I'll miss with another guy today.

00:26:25.360 No, I've been assaulted.

00:26:26.540 And people know that, you know, I have a hobby like combat.

00:26:28.600 And we have, I mean, for credit on that.

00:26:29.860 And every other week we have a UFC champion because it's a sport we follow.

00:26:32.520 And we work with, sometimes we train with these people.

00:26:34.560 I've never been in a fight.

00:26:36.100 I'm very much a pacifist.

00:26:37.460 But my belief is this.

00:26:39.340 You avoid it at all costs.

00:26:41.400 There is nothing anyone can say to me that will offend me enough to fight.

00:26:45.440 There's nothing anyone can say about my wife that will offend me enough to fight.

00:26:48.460 Now, I'm not saying that that should be the line for everyone.

00:26:50.280 But as a public figure, I understand the line is different for me.

00:26:52.200 However, if I get to the point, and again, I've never been in a physical altercation.

00:26:57.040 I've been assaulted.

00:26:58.180 Meaning I've been assaulted and I have retreated and not actually fought back.

00:27:01.880 Right, right.

00:27:02.380 Right.

00:27:03.060 But if it's at a point where I believe that there is no escape and it is my duty to protect

00:27:07.260 either my safety or those around me, I've predetermined that it will be as swift and

00:27:12.700 as effective as possible to end that threat.

00:27:15.620 But it's the same thing with this lawsuit right now, an injunction with YouTube.

00:27:20.220 I don't want the fight.

00:27:21.660 You guys can tell us your rules.

00:27:23.040 That's why we have Mug Club. 1.00

00:27:24.500 You want us to try and set, okay, I think there'll be a conversation somewhere down the

00:27:28.760 line about 2.30, whether you're a publisher or a platform.

00:27:31.300 Yeah.

00:27:31.540 But got it.

00:27:32.440 But we're at the point now where there is no other way to proceed.

00:27:37.660 And so we've got to make sure that people know exactly what is going on here.

00:27:42.480 And this is, like you said, this is tantamount to saying no conservative viewpoints are welcome

00:27:47.940 on this platform.

00:27:48.800 I mean, here's, we're talking about the publisher issue.

00:27:50.660 This is separate, but I don't think there's ever been a more clear example than President

00:27:55.120 Trump.

00:27:55.440 People say ex-president.

00:27:56.400 He was removed from all these platforms while he was president, right?

00:27:59.440 Yeah.

00:27:59.860 He was removed for saying fight like hell, which by the way, our shirts are available at

00:28:03.480 credit shop.com.

00:28:04.260 Anyone who acts like, anyone who acts like fight like hell is not a phrase that had been

00:28:09.080 used forever.

00:28:10.120 It's just being dishonest.

00:28:11.160 Okay.

00:28:11.460 Um, removed the president of the United States.

00:28:14.940 The Ayatollah is still on Twitter.

00:28:18.400 Hamas is still on Twitter.

00:28:19.820 So Twitter has now said, listen, we have decided editorially that Donald Trump's tweets are just

00:28:26.740 too far of a bridge for us to cross.

00:28:28.720 Yeah.

00:28:28.920 Which must mean that they've decided Hamas and the Ayatollah Khomeini are not.

00:28:33.820 Yeah.

00:28:34.780 They need to be held liable for that.

00:28:36.720 You can't enjoy the legal protections and say, we're just a platform when you are clearly

00:28:41.500 making editorial decisions.

00:28:43.100 And that's what's going on here.

00:28:44.580 I think that kicking Trump off and they all did it, right?

00:28:47.900 I mean, basically every single social media platform and, and some technology platforms

00:28:52.320 that aren't even exactly social media.

00:28:53.960 But they all acted independently, right?

00:28:56.100 We know there's no collusion.

00:28:57.380 Even, it was within days of one another.

00:28:59.180 And, and to me, that was crossing the Rubicon.

00:29:01.980 To me, that was, it's so, that, that hipster Rasputin, you know, Jack Dorsey in Silicon Valley,

00:29:08.100 that he and these other oligarchs would ban the duly elected sitting president.

00:29:12.700 Whatever you think about the 2020 election, the man was the duly elected sitting president

00:29:16.960 on January 7th, January 8th, and they booted him off.

00:29:20.520 So of course, next, they're going to go for Steven Crowder.

00:29:22.740 Steven Crowder has got the biggest conservative show on social media.

00:29:26.080 So what?

00:29:26.900 Booting him off too.

00:29:28.080 And I love what you said there about, look, YouTube, I don't want this fight.

00:29:32.240 I'm, I'm willing to play ball to a certain degree.

00:29:35.460 I am not the sort of person who says you ought to be able to say whatever you want at any

00:29:40.660 time, regardless.

00:29:41.580 You know, I, I mean, I think we've got fraud.

00:29:44.260 You're not allowed to have, uh, to discuss fraud right in this country.

00:29:47.960 You've had protections against that from the very beginning, a sedition, obscenity, direct

00:29:53.960 threats.

00:29:54.480 That's not protected speech.

00:29:55.620 So I'm, I'm willing to play ball.

00:29:58.160 I agree.

00:29:58.500 But here's, but here's something that's even more concerning, uh, uh, Mr. Knowles.

00:30:02.600 And I don't, you probably know this, but a lot of people skim over it.

00:30:05.920 Do you know why citizen journalism is going to be dead?

00:30:08.300 Why?

00:30:09.040 And I got into it with John Stossel about this.

00:30:11.120 He wouldn't be able to do the stuff that he used to do in 2020.

00:30:13.080 Um, because the things that you just meant, these are laws, for example, not hate speech.

00:30:18.120 That's not a real thing, but a direct threat or direct call to violence.

00:30:21.220 Or if we're talking about slander libel, they don't follow those laws on YouTube.

00:30:26.680 A single party consent state.

00:30:27.900 What does that mean?

00:30:28.460 You're in a state where you have the right to record.

00:30:30.960 In other words, that's how you record corrupt politicians engaging in corrupt political

00:30:35.820 acts.

00:30:36.420 YouTube says, well, no, we actually don't follow those laws.

00:30:38.280 We actually don't follow.

00:30:38.860 If it's slander or libel, sometimes they'll leave it up.

00:30:41.060 We've had shows with YouTube where we've interviewed people.

00:30:44.700 They have been on camera saying, I give permission, spelling out their name on camera, right?

00:30:48.360 Release forms.

00:30:48.900 And then they went afterwards and said, I didn't like the way that I looked.

00:30:51.460 I want you to remove it.

00:30:52.560 And we had to blur the face.

00:30:53.340 We go, but that's not the law.

00:30:54.220 So they don't follow the laws that we should all agree.

00:30:58.440 Whether we agree with the laws or not, we all agree that since they are law, need to

00:31:02.560 be enforced, they operate outside of the law.

00:31:05.080 And then they create their own new laws while benefiting from the legal protection of 230.

00:31:09.540 How could you ever catch a corrupt politician, dark money in politics, if this is a standard

00:31:16.400 they use?

00:31:16.760 And of course, it's not a standard that they apply equally.

00:31:18.820 It's, oh, a liberal doesn't like it.

00:31:20.500 And so we're going to remove this.

00:31:22.460 All someone needs to say is, yeah, you know what?

00:31:24.400 I did offer money for that, uh, that underage, uh, uh, boy of the night, but, uh, I didn't

00:31:29.300 like the way that clip made me look and I want you to remove it.

00:31:31.160 YouTube says good enough for me.

00:31:32.480 And then they let the Matt Getz stories roll for, you know.

00:31:35.140 So this, this, this point is so important because yeah, we all agree there are, there

00:31:41.140 are standards and we have laws for those standards and okay, good.

00:31:45.240 That's like how society is supposed to work.

00:31:46.960 Right.

00:31:47.200 And then YouTube says, nah, nevermind.

00:31:49.360 We're going to have our own.

00:31:50.020 And it's, it's actually, I don't even just mean to single out YouTube.

00:31:52.300 It's all of these woke corporations and specifically big tech.

00:31:55.840 They say, no, we're going to, we're going to kind of pass our own laws.

00:31:59.240 And actually cocaine Mitch himself as establishmentarian as you get on the right, Mitch McConnell

00:32:04.860 came out and he said, this is a big threat because these woke corporations are operating

00:32:10.460 like a parallel government.

00:32:12.580 They are in many ways the, the real governing force in the country.

00:32:16.320 And they, look, I don't like big government, but I, I also don't like big woke corporation

00:32:20.980 because they're even less accountable to the people than the government is.

00:32:24.700 Well, yeah.

00:32:25.260 And they're more powerful than any government that's ever existed.

00:32:27.220 If you were to actually get in a DeLorean and go back to the Roman empire and show Caesar

00:32:31.380 the power of alphabet, Google, YouTube, and show them the map and how much information

00:32:36.060 is controlled.

00:32:37.100 You're kidding me.

00:32:38.420 Caligula would be like, that's a little extreme.

00:32:40.520 Whoa guys.

00:32:40.980 People, you know, listen, I just, I just, you know, was seeing a few ladies in the brass 0.95

00:32:45.200 room here.

00:32:45.820 Whoa, by the way, it looks like that Epstein picture.

00:32:48.420 No one was allowed to cover that until, uh, he, uh, he died under a security camera

00:32:52.000 that went out for the exact 12 minutes.

00:32:53.360 Right.

00:32:53.620 But the point is, yeah, no, these people are more powerful than government.

00:32:56.420 And I do think that people need to understand it's not just, it's not about private corporations

00:33:00.920 at this point.

00:33:01.600 Yeah.

00:33:02.080 Um, it's not about an open market when they collude and when they don't follow the laws and

00:33:06.780 they enjoy the legal protections that by the way, other business owners out there

00:33:10.540 don't, if you post something at daily wire and it is incorrect and it is malicious and

00:33:15.960 it is slander, you can be sued.

00:33:18.040 You will be sued and you will lose.

00:33:19.960 We have been sued and we've won and it cost us money just to win because someone says,

00:33:24.760 I don't like the article that you're, they would never dream of suing YouTube because

00:33:27.500 of these protections of two 30.

00:33:28.600 One other thing I would like to talk about.

00:33:29.720 I don't know how much time we have.

00:33:30.800 Yeah.

00:33:30.960 We have at least like 10 seconds left.

00:33:32.600 Yeah.

00:33:33.180 Okay.

00:33:33.980 Well, thank you.

00:33:34.720 I appreciate it.

00:33:35.360 You are, you are a busy man.

00:33:37.160 Um, and next time I will bring you the cigars when I'm not, you know, coughing.

00:33:40.300 You know, just to let, let the audience in a little bit, we were supposed to hang out

00:33:44.280 this week.

00:33:44.800 I was very excited.

00:33:45.780 You were going to bring some stogies.

00:33:47.000 We were going to, we're going to have a great time.

00:33:49.380 Obviously, Steven, had you exercised your lungs properly, you probably wouldn't be in

00:33:54.340 this, uh, this sickness right now.

00:33:56.900 I need, I need to make better choices.

00:33:59.960 I think this is because a lot of liberals, even if you say, oh, you know what?

00:34:03.640 Basic conservative, even though you acknowledge it, not extreme.

00:34:06.640 Yeah.

00:34:06.960 Still don't like his opinion.

00:34:07.860 Get rid of it.

00:34:08.160 Guess what?

00:34:09.200 You won't be able to conduct any sort of business at all in the world, really, uh,

00:34:14.480 without access to Facebook, YouTube, Amazon, Google, Alphabet, you know, Google, YouTube.

00:34:18.900 Um, this is also a business issue for people who own and run a business.

00:34:22.920 We just talked about how we've advertised on, uh, on YouTube or on Facebook.

00:34:26.520 Right.

00:34:26.840 And I don't have the, I'm entirely independent.

00:34:28.940 Right.

00:34:29.180 And we have sort of partnerships.

00:34:29.980 So I haven't advertised, I haven't spent nearly as much money as other people, but I've done

00:34:33.640 it consistently to understand how the systems work from both sides.

00:34:37.140 And you know, they send you these, these, they send you these requests and you get someone

00:34:40.500 on the phone who says, Hey, advertise with us.

00:34:42.420 As opposed to billboard, they have this whole kind of spread, right?

00:34:45.000 You get to keep the subscribers.

00:34:46.280 You get to keep the followers that you have.

00:34:48.440 They encourage you to spend your money as a business on these platforms.

00:34:52.060 And then they decide which businesses they're going to allow through and which businesses

00:34:58.140 are going to pinch the valve to give you an idea with the Vox apocalypse.

00:35:01.540 Who's Vox?

00:35:02.600 NBC Vox, Disney Universal, Viacom.

00:35:05.720 Vox, they've co-produced a show with YouTube and Netflix, right?

00:35:09.780 This is something people need to understand in original studios.

00:35:11.860 It wasn't just us versus some independent online video creators.

00:35:15.780 It was us versus one of the biggest multimedia conglomerates that has existed before big

00:35:20.780 tech.

00:35:21.060 And then you go through a period where you search Steven Crowder, change my mind, abortion, 0.83

00:35:25.440 and you can't find it.

00:35:26.520 Instead, you find NBC videos.

00:35:28.400 And this is what's really concerning for anyone out there who runs a business.

00:35:32.780 It's taking away your ability to put up flyers for guitar lessons to give you an idea as to

00:35:36.660 how we've had to change our business model online.

00:35:40.940 We just, you know, used to upload the shows, let the cards fill where they may.

00:35:43.660 Well, then we realized, Oh, hold on a second.

00:35:45.040 We're not really showing, we're not being able to reach people, search, browse.

00:35:47.940 People are entering in the title of the video and being taken to a nine-year-old PBS video

00:35:52.220 with 400 plays.

00:35:53.820 So we said, okay, then we need to focus on subscriptions, notifications, but then notifications

00:35:57.680 and subscriptions don't always really work.

00:35:59.160 And so YouTube doesn't really tell you why they don't work.

00:36:01.100 So what we had to do at this point, because YouTube is favoring live streaming, we live

00:36:06.160 stream.

00:36:06.560 We just tell everyone we've gone back to the old school Johnny Carson approach.

00:36:09.900 So weekdays at 10 a.m. Eastern, just bookmark it and tune in so we don't lose touch with

00:36:15.400 you.

00:36:15.860 So it doesn't matter if notifications work.

00:36:18.540 It doesn't matter if search or browse works.

00:36:21.060 We still have millions of people tuning in no matter what.

00:36:22.940 And if you go on the YouTube live page, we're number one, two, and four out of five in any

00:36:27.800 given day.

00:36:28.360 I think that's a huge component to it.

00:36:30.760 Because if I were Seth Meyers, and even though I was getting all that autoplay, I'd be pretty

00:36:35.840 pissed.

00:36:36.560 But we constantly have to reinvent the business model that is different from the terms we

00:36:40.960 agreed to when we spent money.

00:36:43.220 And everyone here, their livelihoods depend on it.

00:36:45.460 Like I said, just want to know the rule book.

00:36:48.520 And anyone who says they know the rule book is being dishonest.

00:36:52.360 You know how I know?

00:36:53.360 Because YouTube has said, we don't show you the rule book.

00:36:55.640 I don't know if they know the rule book.

00:36:57.220 This, I'm so glad you brought this up because yes, there's the ideological point.

00:37:01.660 They don't like our views.

00:37:02.660 And so they're going to support the leftist views too.

00:37:04.920 But there's a money component here too.

00:37:07.300 You're taking away eyeballs and you're taking away dollars from the left-wingers who can't

00:37:11.940 get the same kind of views.

00:37:13.200 And there's a lot of moneyed interest here that is trying to get those eyeballs back. 0.76

00:37:18.180 You know, we've got eyeballs we got to work on.

00:37:20.300 We've got lungs that we got to work on next time.

00:37:22.680 I hope that we can exercise those lungs with those stogies. 1.00

00:37:25.980 Because when you are feeling better, hopefully when you're back on YouTube, in the meantime

00:37:30.120 though, seriously, people need to go to the mug club.

00:37:33.700 Because I got to tell you, pal, look, I hope it all works out.

00:37:37.100 I think you're big enough in the sense that it would be a really big deal if they took

00:37:40.700 you off totally.

00:37:41.980 But it would be bad for you.

00:37:44.140 It would be bad for the audience.

00:37:45.500 And most importantly, it would be bad for me and all the rest of the conservatives out

00:37:49.620 here who are trying to get a message out.

00:37:51.240 Because if they come for you and it really seems like they are, they're coming for all of

00:37:54.700 us.

00:37:54.860 That's just the way it is.

00:37:55.400 Oh, you don't have a chance.

00:37:56.340 Not a chance.

00:37:56.740 You have a good Catholic boy like you.

00:37:58.440 No chance whatsoever.

00:38:00.240 Especially, I don't know if you've been vaccinated or not.

00:38:02.220 You have absolutely no chance.

00:38:03.880 And I think we share the same views here.

00:38:07.120 Look, I'm pro-business.

00:38:08.640 I'm anti-fraud.

00:38:09.700 That's really what it comes down to.

00:38:10.780 It's about business practices.

00:38:12.100 Give us the rule book.

00:38:13.360 And I do have to correct you.

00:38:14.300 We won't be exercising our lungs when I come out because you don't inhale stogies. 1.00

00:38:17.460 You know that.

00:38:18.120 That's no, you're right.

00:38:19.120 Only every, you're right.

00:38:20.680 It's, I actually got someone wrote into me today and they said, Michael, should I take

00:38:24.740 up smoking cigars?

00:38:25.680 I'm told they're really bad for you.

00:38:27.300 And I said, yeah, well, you don't inhale.

00:38:28.860 You know, you're all good.

00:38:29.680 You know, it's like Bill Clinton.

00:38:30.620 You don't inhale.

00:38:31.280 And they said, well, but it's bad for your mouth and your lips and you're this and you're

00:38:34.100 that.

00:38:34.280 I said, you know, look, man, to quote a great liberal economist, in the long run, we're

00:38:38.020 all dead.

00:38:38.700 Isn't that the case?

00:38:39.560 So we got to, we got to enjoy ourselves a little bit.

00:38:42.140 We'll either be dead.

00:38:43.220 Well, physically we'll be all be dead someday.

00:38:45.100 Digitally, we may be dead sooner rather than later if big tech gets its way.

00:38:50.080 Before that happens, everyone head on over to the Mug Club.

00:38:53.540 Find Stephen while you can.

00:38:55.000 And on audio, by the way, people can still listen on audio on Apple, on Android, on Spotify.

00:38:59.200 And it doesn't, you know, listen, it's a video show.

00:39:01.980 So that's one thing we often, you know, we try and direct people to watch the video on

00:39:04.840 Mug Club.

00:39:05.120 There's also an additional hour.

00:39:06.200 But yeah, people can listen on audio.

00:39:07.800 Just don't let us lose touch with you guys out there.

00:39:11.000 So somewhere, sign up either Mug Club. 0.87

00:39:13.120 If you don't have the money, we still provide plenty of free content on audio.

00:39:16.300 And yes, I am dead inside.

00:39:17.700 Yeah.

00:39:17.860 And I will, I will say before we go very quickly, if by the time this video goes up, if YouTube

00:39:23.280 has permanently banned Stephen Crowder, I never liked him anyway.

00:39:26.620 I don't know him.

00:39:27.400 I don't, please don't associate me with him at all.

00:39:30.160 We have nothing to do.

00:39:31.340 I disavow his views, his vicious, vile, awful.

00:39:35.260 Please don't take me down.

00:39:36.800 I just hated, I just, I got to go.

00:39:38.220 I just hated that Michael Knowles told me to never get the vaccine.

00:39:40.980 What was that about?

00:39:41.900 No, no, no, hold on.

00:39:43.220 No, please.

00:39:43.820 No.

00:39:44.320 Stephen Crowder, everybody.

00:39:45.240 Thank you for watching.

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The Michael Knowles Show - May 22, 2021

The NUCLEAR Option ｜ Steven Crowder

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