The Michael Knowles Show - August 04, 2021


The Progressive ATTACKS on Sports | Jason Whitlock


Episode Stats

Length

23 minutes

Words per Minute

155.16278

Word Count

3,611

Sentence Count

233

Misogynist Sentences

1

Hate Speech Sentences

6


Summary

Jason Whitlock, former ESPN writer, former Fox Sports contributor, now a man you ve seen everywhere, explains to me, is it all over for sports? Have the wokesters just taken it forever, and we have to move on? Or is there some hope?


Transcript

00:00:00.000 I'm Michael Knowles, and this is The Michael Knowles Show.
00:00:08.740 Everything has become so political. Our running shoes, political. Our chicken sandwiches,
00:00:13.700 political. Our sitcoms, political. Every single thing. And people, they want one little break,
00:00:20.520 just one. Maybe you'd watch some football. Oh, the Olympics, wouldn't that be nice? And no,
00:00:26.780 they take that away from us, too. The NFL tells us that it's now transgender, lesbian, and gay.
00:00:33.640 At the Olympics, you've got the athletes, at least at the trials, turning away, disrespecting the flag.
00:00:40.400 They just won't give it to us. And since I am not exactly the world's expert on sports,
00:00:45.580 thankfully, we have a great expert on sports. Jason Whitlock, former ESPN writer, former Fox Sports
00:00:52.140 contributor. Now a man, you've seen him everywhere, and now he is with The Blaze. Jason is going to
00:00:59.060 explain to me, is it all over for sports? Have the wokesters just taken it forever, and we've just
00:01:06.020 got to move on? Or is there some hope? I don't think there's any hope, Michael,
00:01:09.320 to be honest with you. And I'm someone who has never voted. I've always tried to avoid any type
00:01:16.340 of political identity. And I grew up an athlete. I've always been a passionate sports fan. I went
00:01:25.280 to college on a football scholarship. Sports was my little oasis away from all the political division
00:01:32.820 and the political hypocrisy that I love to try to kind of avoid. And now it's front and center in the
00:01:39.760 sports world. And quite frankly, I blame China. I really do. I think that Nike is so hyper-concerned
00:01:51.200 and focused on improving its relationship with China. And Nike is the most powerful force in
00:02:00.180 American sports. More powerful than the NFL, more powerful than Major League Baseball, more powerful
00:02:06.800 than the NBA. And so I think through Nike's relationship and trying to improve its relationship
00:02:13.340 with China, they've made American sports very political and a place to express anti-American
00:02:21.280 sentiment. The CEO of Nike infamously, I wouldn't say famously, infamously just came out and said
00:02:27.500 that Nike is a brand of China and for China, which I think would be a surprise to a lot of Nike
00:02:35.100 customers around the world and certainly to a lot of American sports teams that have partnerships
00:02:39.500 with Nike. So when did this begin and what does it mean for the relationship of Americans to their
00:02:46.500 own sports teams? John Donahoe, the CEO of Nike, said that a couple of weeks ago and in that same
00:02:53.360 conversation with Wall Street analysts, he talked about how this has been Nike's plan and strategy
00:03:02.360 for 40 years. Nike founder Phil Knight hatched the plan of taking Nike International, started working on
00:03:11.320 its relationship with China. China has 1.4 billion potential consumers. America has 330 million.
00:03:21.640 And so Nike went from a great American success story where they toppled all the other shoe brands
00:03:30.980 here in America. And then they set their sights on global domination. And that meant going to China
00:03:38.340 and conquering that marketplace and those 1.4 billion potential consumers. And so this has been 40 years
00:03:48.140 in the making. And I try to explain to people, Michael, that the NBA, the National Basketball Association,
00:03:55.440 its purpose is to market tennis shoes, gym shoes, Nike apparel. The NBA is an $8 billion a year business.
00:04:07.800 Nike is a $40 to $50 billion a year business. Nike runs the NBA. The NBA is the marketing arm of Nike.
00:04:17.860 And so both Nike and the NBA have pursued the international market and the global market far
00:04:27.100 more than they have a domestic audience. That's the biggest difference or had been the biggest
00:04:34.220 difference between the NBA and the NFL. But now you even see the NFL caught up in trying to please the
00:04:41.280 woke crowd and hopping on board with Nike and the anti-American sentiment. They're spreading through
00:04:47.800 Colin Kaepernick and LeBron James.
00:04:51.000 This parallels a major political conversation that's going on right now, which is that for the past 20 or
00:04:57.080 30 years or so, Republicans have shilled for corporations that hate their guts and that want
00:05:02.260 to sort of undo the traditional American way of life. And what some Republicans have said is, well,
00:05:08.060 look, it's a free company, it's a private company. And if they want to turn their massive power on
00:05:14.400 constantly denigrating America, why that's just the free market, at least we've got GDP ticking up a
00:05:19.900 little bit. It seems to me historically, sports, games have always had a patriotic aspect to them.
00:05:28.580 The games are always about the community, the state, the country, the people. And now that's being
00:05:35.520 divorced, how long can that last? Or are people just going to tune out?
00:05:40.420 I'm not sure if it matters whether people tune out. We have flooded our economy with so much money,
00:05:50.740 there are no consequences for failure. Your audience, your TV ratings don't matter.
00:05:57.400 We're paying for agenda and narrative. And so as long as the NBA, the NFL stay on message,
00:06:07.480 the television networks, ESPN, Fox, CBS, they're going to cut enormous checks. And it doesn't matter
00:06:16.340 that their market share strengths here in America. Our global corporations are paying for narrative,
00:06:24.520 arc, arc, and agenda. And the agenda with a lot of these corporations to me, Michael, is
00:06:30.800 they prefer the Chinese Communist Party's way of doing business over the way we do in America. Elites
00:06:42.720 prefer communism over democracy and capitalism. That's what I think people are going to have to
00:06:50.840 come to grips with, is that the working class, the common man, has been completely sold out.
00:06:59.380 And the elites are going to put, are trying to impose a system that's more like China's.
00:07:06.360 They can do business that way. It doesn't hurt the elites. They're still going to make their money.
00:07:11.480 They're going to be treated well in a communist society that really, if we think we favor elites,
00:07:19.460 wait till people get a real taste of communism and how they favor elites and really oppress the
00:07:27.460 working class. You know, I think it was Charles Munger, Warren Buffett's business partner, but it
00:07:31.940 was, it was one of those types, if it wasn't him, one of these masters of the universe who said that
00:07:36.600 he didn't exactly want China's political system, but he did want their economic system, that it was
00:07:42.080 kind of easy to do business with them. And it might be nice to do business that way over here.
00:07:46.820 You have seen this very pro-China move, not just in sports, but Hollywood also infamously has sold
00:07:53.220 its soul to China. You saw this in the Top Gun remake. All of a sudden, references to Taiwan
00:07:58.620 started to disappear. All of a sudden, anything that might upset the Chinese Communist Party
00:08:03.320 starts to disappear because he who pays the piper calls the tune. Well, I get it. If I were the CEO of
00:08:10.440 Nike and I had no sense of loyalty to my country, then I probably would pursue that strategy too.
00:08:15.680 If I were the head of a Hollywood studio and again, had no loyalty to my own country,
00:08:19.580 I'd probably pursue that strategy too. Is there any way for we, for us as Americans to stop them
00:08:26.880 from doing this? Or are we just going to sell out our sports and our culture to the highest bidder?
00:08:31.980 I do think we're going to have to have an economic response. And, and, and again, I'm not even sure
00:08:39.740 if that will matter to Nike or some of these other global corporations, but if we could empower some
00:08:49.740 corporations that were hyper-focused, and this will sound comical when I, when I say it, but
00:08:56.940 about a month ago, when I really started thinking about this, I, I went on the MyPillow website
00:09:04.620 and bought a bunch of Mike Lindell, MyPillow stuff just to support a business that manufactures its
00:09:13.280 products here in America and has a passion and a patriotism for America. We're going to have to start
00:09:20.820 doing that. We're going to have to start, and, and, and I hate to say it, but it's just like, I just bought
00:09:26.320 a new car, a new Mercedes, and I kind of regret it. I should have bought, I should have bought an
00:09:32.980 American-made car, but we're going to have to start really disciplining ourselves and making wiser
00:09:39.400 economic choices and invest in companies that actually believe in American freedom. There, there's,
00:09:47.120 I don't think, there's a lot of the American public that doesn't fully understand what we're sacrificing
00:09:54.360 by allowing foreign interests to manipulate our corporations and our culture. We're going to end
00:10:03.840 up sacrificing the freedoms that made this country great. And for those of us that are black, the
00:10:11.500 freedoms that allowed us to be a part of American freedom. If we were in, if our country keeps moving
00:10:21.140 this direction of China, the political dissent that made black Americans free will no longer be
00:10:30.780 available to us. We have to, and that's why what the Daily Wire is doing, what the Blaze is doing,
00:10:39.700 we're trying to educate people about what's really going on and what the ramifications are.
00:10:45.160 And, and because corporate media, so beholden to the big global corporations, they can't tell these
00:10:52.940 kinds of truths. I totally agree with that. And all I will say on that point, Jason, is if you do feel
00:10:59.800 so bad and the guilt gets to you so much, I am willing to take the Mercedes off your hand. You can't,
00:11:05.440 it's fine. I will. I appreciate it. Yes. Anytime. Now what I, what I, what I do want to know is
00:11:11.760 beyond the corporate level, this actually makes a lot of sense. And I hadn't really thought of it
00:11:16.820 this way that Nike and a handful of other players, but really Nike is, is controlling so much of this
00:11:22.180 conversation and narrative. What, what do the players really believe? Are they just dopes? Are
00:11:28.760 they, are they just kind of been brainwashed? Are they cynically going along with this or some of
00:11:33.240 them self-censoring? I'm reminded of that gal Gwen something or other, the hammer thrower from the
00:11:38.560 Olympic trials a few weeks ago. Gwen Berry. Gwen Berry. Yes. And she, she said that she finds
00:11:44.180 the national anthem offensive. She thinks it's a setup that she's got to respect the star spangled
00:11:48.940 banner. She wants to represent the United States on the Olympic team, but she doesn't want to stand up
00:11:54.760 and put her hand over her heart and respect the flag. She seems to really believe it. I think her
00:11:59.820 explanation was nuts, but it seemed sincere at least. So what is it? Are the athletes, are they secret,
00:12:06.200 you know, patriots and they're just going along for the sake of the woke corporations or have they
00:12:11.060 really bought into this stuff? I used to be an athlete. I went to school on a division one football
00:12:18.640 scholarship. I have respect for athletes, but when most of your life and free time are dedicated to
00:12:28.700 developing your physical attributes, I don't then turn to them and go, oh, these are some of the
00:12:34.740 greatest intellectual minds in America. I don't expect them to understand. I do expect them to
00:12:41.180 be caught up in the culture that's being promoted. And so many of them are addicted to social media
00:12:47.740 and Twitter and their phones and their brains have been hacked. Like all of us, they're not alone.
00:12:55.880 All of us have this phone addiction, social media app addiction. They're young and they want to be
00:13:03.720 popular. They want to be with the in crowd. They want to make money. And so Gwen Berry, I get it. She
00:13:12.160 just wants to make some money and be relevant. She throws the hammer. No one's watching that event
00:13:17.500 and she's not going to win it. How can she be popular? How can she be relevant? Oh, that's right.
00:13:23.680 The national anthem bugs me. I don't respect the flag. They got pictures of her waving the flag and
00:13:29.160 being patriotic. It's all, it's a gimmick. It's people, young people love attention. And so there's
00:13:35.940 some of that when it comes to the professional athletes at the NBA, NFL level, look, and particularly in
00:13:42.300 the NBA, they have, they get paid so much money. LeBron James makes far more money from Nike than
00:13:47.920 he does the NBA. And that's true of a lot of the basketball players. They make more money from
00:13:52.860 their shoe companies than the NBA. And so they're just doing what's in their financial best interest
00:14:00.360 as explained to them by their handlers and the shoe companies and whatnot. And so just follow the
00:14:07.140 money as it relates to a lot of the athletes, Colin Kaepernick, he figured out there's more money in
00:14:13.280 being a martyr and a symbol than actually playing football at the level he was playing. And so I just,
00:14:22.040 my expectations for athletes are they're going to train hard, be in shape, entertain us. They're not
00:14:29.100 political leaders. They're not thought leaders. If I were as talented as LeBron James,
00:14:36.000 I'd probably speak English as brutally as he does. Uh, and I would probably think a lot of the dumb
00:14:42.820 stuff that he thinks, uh, because if I were that, I'd be so awash in money and women, I wouldn't have
00:14:49.560 time to read a book. Yeah. I think that's, that's pretty fair. I think that's probably true for a lot
00:14:55.720 of us. And, and LeBron, I mean, he's kind of at the forefront of this. He said that a black man in
00:15:00.140 America can't walk outside the door without being chased down by racist whites. And I think,
00:15:05.640 you know, LeBron, you're looking pretty good. You're looking healthy. You seem to have a pretty
00:15:10.360 stable life here. I even, because I know so little about professional sports, I just don't really
00:15:15.820 follow a ton. I follow baseball to some degree, although the MLB drove me so crazy the last two
00:15:20.940 years I tried to tune it out. But when I heard about the Kaepernick story, when it first came up,
00:15:25.280 I thought, oh gosh, I guess this guy must be one of the great quarterbacks of our age. You know,
00:15:30.900 he must be one of the real top athletes and, but he's giving it up for it. No, he's not. He's this
00:15:36.340 kind of middle of the pack guy who figured out how to make a buck and I guess more power to him
00:15:40.720 because he's doing better than most of the other people who were still throwing a football.
00:15:43.820 Not only middle of the pack, but just a bad attitude, not an attitude that's going to help
00:15:49.400 your team win games. And be a, again, when you're playing quarterback in the NFL,
00:15:54.880 the on-field performance matters the most, but there are other things. Leadership, being the face
00:16:02.700 of the franchise, it's almost like you're the mayor of a city. And Colin Kaepernick didn't have
00:16:07.940 any of those things. He had no interest in any of those things. He liked to build up his biceps and
00:16:13.620 his abs and take pictures shirtless and put on Beats headphones and make money doing that.
00:16:19.780 And it sounds like I'm just beating him up. I'm telling you, if I had his kind of talent at
00:16:26.320 the age he was, 28, 29, 30 years old, I'd be doing and thinking the same thing.
00:16:33.500 You know, unfortunately, I'm an overweight 50-year-old and so I have to read books and
00:16:38.680 newspapers and I have to acquire information to make money. So I think a little differently than
00:16:45.400 Kaepernick. I think that's a curse. It is. Believe it or not,
00:16:48.720 I never got the call from the New York Giants. I was waiting by my phone for many years.
00:16:53.340 Now, you know, you've really helped me think through this because I was looking, I said,
00:16:58.480 what is it about the woke ideology maybe in the colleges when they were playing college ball?
00:17:02.880 No, I mean, there is a real system of sticks and carrots here and real economic incentives
00:17:09.160 to be doing this kind of thing. Is there any hope to change that economic incentive structure
00:17:17.100 that seems to be turning, this last institution that we had, you know, the conservatives basically
00:17:23.160 had sports and the military. Both have gone woke in the last six months and sports was a little bit
00:17:29.040 earlier than that. So that's kind of depressing. You know, is there any way to reorder the incentives,
00:17:34.280 be it at the level of the NCAA, be it at the level of the professional leagues,
00:17:39.360 or are we basically just going to see them chasing dollars all the way to Beijing for the near future?
00:17:46.300 Look, America hasn't always been driven by or influenced by sports and passion for sports.
00:17:58.900 You know, professional sports came along 130, 40 years ago for the most part, I think.
00:18:05.280 And so I think what is going to happen if we have a chance is that those of us,
00:18:14.900 and I don't know your religious beliefs, I'll just speak about mine, those of us with passionate
00:18:23.520 religious beliefs, followers of Jesus Christ, we may have to abandon our love of sports.
00:18:30.400 And we may have to, at some point, stand up and remake America where we de-emphasize sports.
00:18:41.440 And throwing all this money and adulation at guys who are ungrateful and unappreciative
00:18:47.860 is a huge mistake. They have way too much influence over our culture.
00:18:52.720 And so, you know, there are, we're in a legitimate, serious, critical culture war.
00:19:02.320 And so there are things, all of this stuff in the culture, from the music industry to Hollywood,
00:19:07.220 the sports, they're all going to have to be remade again.
00:19:12.060 Or we'll just continue on our path of destruction and be the modern day Sodom and Gomorrah.
00:19:19.140 And we know how that ends.
00:19:22.360 I love this take because what you're saying, and I know this is shocking to so many people today,
00:19:28.800 is you can't have everything.
00:19:32.160 You know, the NFL just said, football is gay, lesbian, football is everything.
00:19:36.760 And I said, well, it's not everything. It's not baseball. It's not basketball.
00:19:40.060 It's not the color orange. It's not the number seven.
00:19:42.900 It is a thing within limits because everything has limits here.
00:19:47.940 And for Christians, we need to remember the blood of the martyrs is the seat of the church.
00:19:54.560 Christians have been called upon in history to do far more difficult things than turn off the NFL.
00:20:01.300 You know, people might love their sports, but there are more important things in this world.
00:20:06.420 I also have a bit of an advantage because I never particularly cared for the NFL.
00:20:10.120 But you're right. I mean, when these companies are spitting in the face of your values,
00:20:15.620 doing so much to undermine your culture, at a certain point, no matter how much you like watching the game,
00:20:21.000 you might just have to turn it off.
00:20:22.800 And that's part of what I've, as a sports journalist, long time, and sports being a big part of my brand,
00:20:30.420 the deal I've made with myself is I'm going to cover sports honestly.
00:20:35.360 I'm not going to god up, celebrate people who don't espouse any of the values that I believe in.
00:20:48.040 And so people are, oh, man, you're hypercritical of LeBron James and some of these other woke athletes.
00:20:56.580 Yeah, I'm like, yeah, I am.
00:20:57.940 They're not protecting, defending, promoting the values that I believe in.
00:21:04.720 They're promoting a secular, godless, Marxist worldview.
00:21:09.520 They may not know it, but I'm going to point it out to them and point it out to their fans.
00:21:14.780 And I'm going to do that for the rest of my career until we get it and understand it here in America.
00:21:20.820 This is dangerous.
00:21:21.960 This whole reimagining, remaking, retelling of history that the African-American journey in America is something that damns America
00:21:33.780 rather than enlightens people that are like, wow, look at what can be accomplished in America.
00:21:42.300 You can start at the very bottom as slaves.
00:21:45.740 And America and our Judeo-Christian values allow you to change the system in a way that will grant you your freedom and standing here in this country.
00:21:57.060 The African-American journey is a great American success, come-from-behind story.
00:22:04.040 We've allowed the New York Times and everybody else to say, well, the African-American journey proves that America is evil and irredeemably racist.
00:22:13.160 It's just not true.
00:22:14.100 I totally, totally agree with you, Jason.
00:22:17.020 I am so, so glad to hear this perspective.
00:22:20.920 Where else can people find your perspective now that you're at the Blaze?
00:22:25.300 Well, you only need to find me one place.
00:22:27.600 You can Fearless with Jason Whitlock, the podcast, wherever podcasts are shown and displayed.
00:22:34.620 We've got a YouTube page, youtube.com, backslash Fearless with Jason Whitlock.
00:22:39.740 Obviously, you can find us at Blaze TV.
00:22:42.160 There's an app.
00:22:43.760 But I'm writing and doing a podcast.
00:22:46.380 We just started on Tuesday today.
00:22:49.540 I'm not sure when this is airing.
00:22:52.200 But we just started today with the daily podcast and show.
00:22:55.480 I've been writing columns now for about three weeks.
00:22:58.300 You can get those at Blaze.com.
00:23:00.140 Eventually, there will be a Fearless vertical on Blaze where you can get my writing and some of the contributors.
00:23:06.900 But we're going to keep chopping wood.
00:23:08.880 Appreciate you having me on.
00:23:09.880 I love it, Jason.
00:23:10.880 Great to be with you.
00:23:11.800 Go check out Fearless.
00:23:13.700 Go follow Jason Whitlock.
00:23:15.540 Jason, thanks for coming on.