Tough Questions And Real Drinks： YES or NO ｜ Isabel Brown
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Can you be a political and cultural warrior if you're losing the battle with your own metabolism? Isabel Brown and Ben Davies play the "yes or no" game to see who can figure it out the fastest.
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Can you be a political and cultural warrior if you're losing the battle with your own metabolism?
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If you're losing the battle, what is he even insinuating?
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Welcome to Yes or No, the bibulous battle to discover who knows whom best.
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My guest today is my friend and colleague, Isabel Brown.
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She will select her answer away from my prying eyes.
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Neither of us have seen the questions beforehand.
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And whoever has the most points at the end wins.
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You've been on my various shows a number of times.
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But this is the first time that you've been on a show since becoming my colleague officially.
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I got a call literally two days before having my baby girl about if I would ever be interested in doing something at The Daily Wire.
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And that evolved between some back and forths to taking on my podcast, The Isabel Brown Show, and turning it into a whole new level of awesome.
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I've got to have more kids because I've only got, I've only have three so far.
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I asked Drew when I was about to have my first kid.
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You have them and then you just, you, new opportunities emerge.
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And in fact, I've been watching your old episodes.
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So I'm hopeful that I have trained sufficiently to beat you potentially today.
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Should teenagers, Michael, be required to get parental consent to join social media?
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How do you feel about some of these states that are making laws about this, though?
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Do you think it should be a role of the parents or a role of the state?
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When I was coming up, you're much younger and more vibrant than I am, Isabel.
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But I, an old man, when I was coming up in politics, there was this thing where the
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conservatives never wanted to actually wield political power.
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So we'd say, you have to elect us and give us all this political power so that we can
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And so they would say, no, no, no, you can't, you can't legislate morality.
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Or it's, you know, the state can't ever anything.
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I don't know, the state's pretty effective when the libs use it.
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You know, they're like pummeling us into the dirt.
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And so I think, I have this more classical conception of politics, which is that the law
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And so you want to make sure that you don't have too heavy a hand.
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You don't want, you know, like big daddy president just like deciding every single thing in your
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But the social media stuff is, is quite dangerous.
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It can be, the internet is just a portal to hell, basically the cell phones.
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And so teenagers are going to look at the porn and terrible things, radical politics and
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And so absolutely, I think it's, the state has a role to, to reign that in a little bit.
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My only concern is that I think the state sometimes tries to replace the role of the parent.
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And if I've learned anything as a new parent, every time we are out and about in public,
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the number of people that just shove devices in their kid's face, it's the scariest thing
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Already, we've been FaceTiming with our extended relatives because they don't live near us.
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And it's insane how quickly my 11 week old daughter will just immediately change her whole
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So I do think the primary onus falls on the parents.
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And to play devil's advocate a little bit, I don't think we would have gotten to where
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we are right now with conservatism becoming mainstream and arguably the strong majority
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of Gen Z if it weren't for young teenagers being exposed to the internet over the last 10
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There is a kind of irony, which is like, no one should give their kids smartphones or the internet
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That's the one except, you know, so there is obviously there's a tension there.
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But it's bizarre because we got this crack through, you know, with the new media where
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we were able to win over younger millennials and Zoomers and now I guess into Gen Alpha.
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But yeah, you don't want them to just have their brains turn to complete mush.
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Is it possible to be a true trad wife and a social media influencer?
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Is it possible to be a true trad wife and a social media influencer?
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Every other chick who goes on the internet and TV as a conservative, I love them.
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Many of them are close personal friends of mine.
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But they all defend it and they say, no, no, I'm a real trad wife.
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Well, also it's important to note the connotation of what trad wife has like come to be over the
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That, and it's also just incredibly bizarre to me how the media and how social media has
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labeled certain women like queen of the trad wives.
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The best example being Hannah Neelman, ballerina farm.
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Literally, the mainstream media wrote up this horrible hit piece about how she's so oppressed
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by her evil husband because she has so many children and has them at home and then gets
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But it's fascinating because she repeatedly has rebuked that title and said, I do not
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She has a hugely successful agricultural business.
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Her brand is called Ballerina Farm, was a previous professional ballet dancer trained
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And then they moved to Utah and they have this beautiful thriving ranch with a bunch of
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And yet she, at the same time, competes in Mrs. World pageants and looks phenomenal doing
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Literally days after giving birth to her children, which is amazing.
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And people have this connotation or stipulation that she's a trad wife because she posts videos
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of herself cooking all of their meals from scratch and living in this beautiful, idyllic
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farmhouse in Utah and going out and milking their cow.
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But she also has quite literally one of the most successful female-run businesses in America
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And she says, I don't know what you guys are talking about.
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So I think it's more in the eye of the beholder than how most people would personally identify.
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But personally, I would say, no, you have your own brand, your own situation.
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I mean, not for someone like you who has been public for a long time, but for someone who
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has been private and then they get married and maybe they quit their job or they don't
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And then they say, okay, well, I want the money from a second job.
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But I'm going to make content about my really trad life.
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And therein lies the problem because the moment that you make the private public, the moment
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Also, I don't know how it's possible to be an influencer and not make a single cent from
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I just think like when you say, okay, well, this is the trad wife influencer.
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Here's the trad, I just think the one thing I can tell you about trad wives, they're not
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There's nothing wrong with promoting traditional values as a woman on social media.
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You are an inspiration to many, but you can't, you can't be that thing.
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Can you be a political and cultural warrior if you're losing the battle with your own
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If you're losing the battle, what is he even insinuating?
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What he would say, he gets one of these like every time.
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He's like, hey, if you're a butter soft, like, you know, a little pudgy Pillsbury dough boy.
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I mean, your metabolism seems to be doing just okay for you.
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Can the proverbial you be a political and cultural warrior if you're losing the battle
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Well, first of all, I mean the greatest right-wing cultural warrior of our lifetime, Chris Christie.
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Charles Martin of New Jersey moderate politics.
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And Churchill arguably saved Western civilization at one point.
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Trump, he's a good-looking guy, and he's actually thinned down in the second term.
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But, you know, he's been a bigger guy in his life, and he's the man.
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I swear, Trump is the only politician I've ever seen in my lifetime age in reverse.
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The guy looks better today than he ever did in 2015.
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That was one way I knew after the first term, I knew he was running again and he was going
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I was like, oh, man, this guy is in for it, man.
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But so you think, okay, Trump especially is at least, he's just like a big guy.
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Henry VIII, not my favorite figure in history, but, you know, he was a warrior, no doubt
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I mean, he was like a little English meatball, you know, big English meatball.
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Like, ultimately, especially from a religious perspective, take care of your own house, take
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care of yourself, and then take care of society at large.
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There's like the Henry VIII version of gluttony, like big fatties.
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But then there's the, if you're obsessive about food and you're like an ozempic addict
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Would you argue that the ozempic craze we're seeing right now is actually like a cultural
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Because it's not, you know, a virtue is a mean in between two extremes.
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And so the extreme of being like a big fatty, you know, just stuffing donuts in your face
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all the time, is balanced out by the extreme of being a narcissist, you know, vain person
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in the mirror trying to suck down another pound.
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What you want to be, what you want to be, Davies, is delightfully unconcerned about your
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I had some stuff that was saucy but wouldn't get me in actual serious trouble.
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But it was enough to, like, I was going to make a robust defense of prejudice.
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And then I was going to talk about how I presume that anyone whose case is brought to trial is
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And then they did, because they had a thing of, what's your name?
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And they didn't even call me up to interview me.
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And then Ben just puts that finger in the wound.
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You know, Davies, for all the smack I talk about him, he's good at ordering.
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Is ozempic the new lobotomy and possibly satanic because it removes healthy bodily function
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If we can argue that gluttony is a sin, which is a very grave, grave sin, ozempic is essentially
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It's saying that I have no responsibility, no consequences for my own actions.
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I've never thought about it in that context, but that is interesting to make that argument.
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You're not saying it's satanic like, you know, the devil whispering in your ear exactly.
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You're saying it's satanic because it's about a vice.
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The number of videos I've seen, TikTok, by the way, has saved my life postpartum.
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Like the number of times at 2 a.m. I've Googled, is this normal?
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But the number of videos, I am constantly fed from other new moms saying, when did you
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guys finally quit breastfeeding so you could just start ozempic?
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No, naturally, because you're literally destroying your own body.
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You don't want to destroy your baby's capacity to digest food too.
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People are coming in with paralyzed stomachs and their body becomes insulin resistant forever.
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Long-term health effects that we have no research on and no idea already.
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But I wonder how much of that's going to impact young women in particular because this is being
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so hyper-messaged to young moms, to young college students.
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Like, even Botox, it's hard for me to tell when people get...
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I have friends who I later found out they get shot up with Botox.
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Not that she wanted to, but I've totally forbade her from getting any cosmetic surgery.
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Because I think, look, you're, you know, you're like a little hottie now.
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Best case scenario, what's going to happen is you're just going to be like...
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Or they've got the lips that blow up to three times their size.
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Because I actually was talking about this with my followers a couple of weeks ago.
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And everyone was trying to make the argument that this is all for the female gaze.
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And that men actually hate every single one of these procedures.
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Like if you get filler, it migrates to different parts of your body.
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If you feel like you don't like how you look or you do whatever, put the cupcake down.
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But all this stuff, the poke and the prod and you're poisoning yourself, putting botulism
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And apparently it's satanic now, which I'm actually going to go reflect on that for a
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People who have way too much cosmetic surgery do start to look like Baphomet or something.
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Like you're pilled on the moon landing or you're pilled that it didn't happen?
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In fact, he literally said to me as I was headed out the door this morning, make sure
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Is playing video games a bigger red flag than watching anime?
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It's a red flag, but it's not as big a red flag as anime.
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Would you, Michael, side with the Empire over the Rebels in the original Star Wars?
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It's a cute thing of like, well, there were the established power and, you know, these
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I'm, well, keeping government within its proper limits.
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But, but it, you know, it doesn't, that's not an excuse for tyranny.
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St. Thomas Aquinas, you know, even provides an opportunity for revolution.
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I've been getting slowly into it over the past few years.
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I will say as a standalone show, Attack on Titan is mind-blowingly good.
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So I would start it for like maybe a teenager max of the young age.
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And it speaks to, you know, tyranny and the plight of people when they're in situations where they need to overthrow people.
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Do you think, do you like other cartoons that are not anime?
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South Park was a staple growing up in the mountains of Colorado.
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South Park, Colorado is very close to where I grew up, actually.
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You found out a guy were like really into anime.
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I mean, you know, I suppose that, you're speaking in degrees.
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Would you rather, you're told you're going to go on a blind date with a guy and you got some Giga Chad who doesn't watch anime and you got some guy who does watch anime.
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Well, I think you're limiting yourself that the Giga Chad may watch anime, to be honest.
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It's becoming a very mainstream thing in the West.
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I mean, you have to keep in mind this is still relatively newish to our culture without the exceptions of Pokemon and Avatar The Last Airbender.
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But I think anime has the future to be very, very compelling in that the content of the shows themselves are still based in traditional masculinity and heroism and doing the right thing when it's difficult and overthrowing tyrannical powers.
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Most of our Americanized Hollywood shows are just garbage.
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But why is that stuff, what is it about anime that makes it better?
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I don't think it has to be animated versus live action.
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I mean, they're even turning anime shows into live action right now, although they're butchering it.
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There was a live action rendition of Avatar The Last Airbender that came out.
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And then they literally destroyed all of the characters.
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This is my question, because now it's sort of like Baudrillard hyper-reality.
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Like you're getting so divorced from the thing.
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If anime is not essentially about animation, if you can have a live action anime, then this is my confusion on anime.
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Well, and I wouldn't call myself the expert either.
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My question is, if we have this world where anime can be live action, then what is anime?
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Well, it is still animated with CGI and special effects.
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But it still requires, I mean, you can't have a flying sky buffalo in real life.
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Okay, so it has to be, you have to have flying.
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There is a fantasy element, I think, associated with all of the best anime shows that I've really enjoyed.
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And look, also anime is a category of literally tens of thousands of different shows.
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So I'm being very categorical in the few shows that I've seen.
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So the anime, it doesn't have to come out of Japan.
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It doesn't have to be, strictly speaking, animated.
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But so if you had to say, give me one sentence, what distinguishes anime from other shows?
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There is a depth of substance with the journey that the character has to go on that is extremely compelling.
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Whereas I feel like most American-produced television shows and movie adaptations and all of that miss the plot entirely at this point.
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But even the book adaptations that we're seeing now, they cut so much of the plot out.
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It's all about the substance and the flash and the random gay non-binary character that somehow is the whole front of the show now.
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Well, no, that and then the second part, which is you're told you can go on a date.
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There's one guy, Giga Chad, doesn't play video games.
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Yeah, my whole point on this question is I've found many more normal guys will play the occasional video game.
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I've been known to dabble in the occasional Hogwarts Legacy stint.
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Has ick culture warped Gen Z women's perspective on dating?
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Is there any circumstance in which a wife should have the final say over her husband?
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Which wife should have the final say over her husband?
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I think you're going to say, I think you're going to say no.
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With some nuance and I'm sure all the internet trolls are going to come for me on that one.
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No, I think if your family is being led into grave sin, you have an opportunity and an obligation as the wife to gently guide your family in the other direction.
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So you're basically saying God is the final say.
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And I actually think God gave women unique intuitive capabilities that men don't have, right?
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I think we can assess the emotional impact of a situation much differently.
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But there's a reason women have gut feelings and usually they're right.
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One of my family's favorite movies growing up of all time is My Big Fat Greek Wedding, a cultural pillar.
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And there's a great line that we quote all the time.
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The man is the head of the house, but the woman is the neck.
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Well, this is the old observation, the hand that rocks the cradles, the hand that rocks the world.
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But now to clarify, even though I was debating, do I, in some circumstance where the husband is like,
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hey, we're going to be Satanists now, you know, then you're not going to listen to it.
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But barring grave mortal sin, barring the husband trying to lead the family into grave mortal sin,
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We are brand new parents, so we're very much learning on the job.
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And I wouldn't proclaim myself to be a marital or parenting expert by any means.
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Generally speaking, I think the man has the obligation to be the head of the house.
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Sometimes you have to kick him in the butt and say, get up, you've got to do this for our family.
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But it's that distortion that I think has really eroded masculinity in such really devastating ways in our society.
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And why women have the ick factor to bring things full circle.
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If a man, and I do think it's basically that's the only circumstance,
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which is if a man is leading your family into grave mortal sin, you have an obligation to say, no, no, no.
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But short of that, yeah, the guy's the head of the household.
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And the husband, rather, is the head of the household.
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And a lot of the time, Elisa said this to me the other day, we were debating whatever the subject was.
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I mean, I think, hey, Mac, you're the head of the household, right?
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How about you make a decision and tell me what to do and do it?
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You're right, I need to just make, I don't want to make a decision on whatever it is,
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like Chinese food or Indian food or whatever, but I have to.
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As a woman, there is nothing more attractive than when a man has a total plan
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My very first date I ever went on with my husband, he didn't ask me on the date.
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We had known each other for a few days at this point, but he said, we're going on a date next Friday.
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Okay, and he had it all planned and it was the coolest thing ever.
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There was no trying to secretly pull feelings out of somebody, you up, text or any of that.
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You remember that chick who, she was a lesbian and she went viral.
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She goes, I went on a date with this guy and he just ordered me a drink and just bought it and gave it to me.
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I mean, heck, Jojo Siwa is straight now, so I'm just saying, the alpha male thing is pretty attractive.
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Then, we move our glasses to yes or no to see if we can read each other's minds.
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Well, mainly, I'm just upset with how they've handled this new rendition of Superman, but...
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And that's sad because I actually really like James Gunn's prior work.
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Well, the thing that just doesn't make sense to me is the whole immigration angle when he is a literal
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Here's my based argument for why we shouldn't deport Superman.
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The argument is, look, he's an alien, and I guess he's an illegal alien in the sense that
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he didn't have papers, but he is in the American interest, so we keep him because he's in our
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And I think that's how we should look at illegal immigration to some degree.
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I mean, if there's someone, most of them should need to go back, but if there's some
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illegal immigrant who happens to be really good for America, I'm happy to make an exception.
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So, sure, I'm happy to make an exception if it really serves American interests, but even
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broadly on immigration policy, really the only factor that we should consider is if
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That is how immigration policies have in principle.
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It's how it works all over the world right now.
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Including in our own country, that's how it's supposed to work.
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And so I think, okay, well, he serves our purposes.
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You know, so it's like, I just think we need to be a little more, the libertarian, the really
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ideological conservative would say, well, no, actually, you know, what's good for the
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And if we're going to deport a Mexican criminal, we're going to deport Superman too.
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It's like, bro, you can't tell the difference between it's a face tattooed Mexican gangster.
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Mine is stemming from a place of personal frustration, but I actually think I would agree.
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No, and I would say the synthesis of those two ideas is deport James Gunn.
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Deport James Gunn for that horrible movie that I had to sit for.
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It's not, what I hated about it was it wasn't the worst movie I've ever seen.
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It was, and it was actually, talk about, we're talking about men and women.
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I felt the romantic plot was pretty, pretty sturdy, actually.
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It was, I believe there was a real chemistry between the two of them.
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Even in things where we have the plot to reference.
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Catholics have dual loyalty to the Vatican and to their home country.
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Catholics have dual loyalty to the Vatican and to their own country.
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Because I should have said, I should have said yes.
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Yes, obviously we have a loyalty to the Vatican, which in principle could have some conflict,
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but not necessarily because the Vatican and national loyalty to America are not loyalties of the same kind.
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So, however, the reason this question is raised is because people go after the Jews and they say the Jews have dual loyalty to America and to the state of Israel.
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But you'd say, well, Catholics have, if the United States went to war with the Vatican.
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No, but I think it's a completely separate frame of reference.
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And the hard thing, the funny thing is there are plenty of Jews who actually hate the state of Israel and they have no loyalty to it at all.
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They should have more loyalty to it than they do.
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What? You're telling me everything I see on Twitter?
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But it's a hard thing because for the Jews, there is a tribal identity, which is real.
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I think there's something actually kind of admirable about that.
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But it's why these accusations come up throughout the ages and often become very ugly and nasty.
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And there is a similarity with the Catholics, which is, I think, why Catholics can understand that better than other groups.
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But the similarity is imperfect because, first of all, we haven't had the papal states in 140 years or something like that.
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But also, even when we had the papal states, you weren't a citizen of the papal states.
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You know, you were a citizen of your own country because nationalism is relatively new.
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Nationalism comes up with the Peace of Westphalia and the Treaty of Augsburg.
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But, I mean, this is where I would have to defend our super Zionist Jewish friends against the modern nation state type people.
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If the U.S. went to war with Israel, who would you side with?
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If you claim loyalty to two nation states, you have a problem.
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I mean, even if you're a, you could be a British citizen.
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If America goes to war with Britain, you have a problem if you're a dual citizen.
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But if the United States, if they reconstituted the papal Zouaves and the United States went to war, Pope Pius XIII, you know, is invading the Holy Land and Syria and reconstituting.
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We're getting Baldwin and the U.S. declares war on him.
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I think the way that this question is phrased is important because obviously we are not legal citizens of the Holy See.
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I think if the question had been phrased as the Holy See instead of the Vatican, I may have answered differently.
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I'm getting my master's in theology right now because I can't help myself.
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And it's been really fascinating this last year or so spending time sitting with and contemplating the role of nationalism and your identity to your country as a citizen versus your willingness to obey the Pope and obey the Vatican.
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And that's what your ultimate obligation is during this lifetime because ultimately the United States of America doesn't exist after we die.
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And that's the role of the church is to get us there and try to bring as many people there with us as possible.
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So I've even been playing around with learning more about the sin of Americanism and that's a conversation that people aren't really ready to have, I think, in our country.
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But we do need to have it because ultimately our primary allegiance always has to be to Christ and to Christ's law.
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I mean, you are like the church has both keys, both swords.
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Well, look, you can ask a gazillion different apocalyptic scholars and almost every one of them will tell you the United States doesn't exist at the end times, more likely than not.
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Your girl wore a MAGA hat on the cover of Newsweek magazine in college, okay?
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Like I will always defend our country and I think it's important for us to continue doing that.
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But ultimately, my obligation is to God and to Christ and so my loyalty would also have to lie with the Vatican from the religious spiritual sense, although I'm not a citizen of Vatican City or the Holy Spirit.
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Yeah, this is where I find myself, as is often the case, in the Dante position.
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Dante was a member of the Guelph party, which was the pro-Pope party, fighting against the pro-Empire party.
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Because the temporal power was the Empire and the spiritual power was the Pope.
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The Pope also had a lot of temporal power and claimed temporal power to himself.
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Dante was part of the pro-Pope party, but he was part of the faction of the pro-Pope party that was pro-Empire.
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Dante was like the rhino of medieval Tuscany and Florence.
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He said, look, the really hardcore pro-Pope party, forget about your allegiance to the Empire, it's just to the Pope.
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They would say, well, ultimately we control everything and the Empire derives its power from us.
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And what Dante would argue and the pro-Empire party would say is, no, no, actually the Empire predates the Church.
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And actually the Church is born within the Empire.
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And actually in the fullness of time, Christ is born within the Roman Empire.
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And because the Empire claimed jurisdiction over the world and executes him according to the civil law, which is why it's a sacrifice for the entire world.
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So, I mean, I think it is a matter of natural virtue to love your country.
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No, I think patriotism is an extension of killing party.
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You're supposed to obey the laws of your country.
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You're supposed to give to Caesar what Caesar is.
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And so the only real, I think, synthesis here is we need America to be a confessional state, right?
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This is an active culture war that we are still fighting, and it's vitally important that we fight now harder than ever.
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Meeting the President of the United States and the Vice President.
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I am so psyched to be bringing you guys along on this journey.
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So, I was told on the internet when I was endorsing you were coming over, I was told that it's giving live, laugh, love.
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My argument was that live, laugh, love, much like the paintings of Thomas Kincaid, the painter of light, is not a liberal kitsch, but is instead, at a deeper level, a deeply subversive countercultural right-wing stuff because it elevates bourgeois morality, which the radicals of the left hate.
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I would say there is very obvious subversive right-wing extremism messaging here.
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We've got a stormtrooper with a cactus growing out of his head.
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We've got Napoleon Dynamite, easy comedy, reminding you it's okay to laugh.
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They may think it's live, laugh, love, but the longer they look at it.
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Wow, I didn't notice the Eucharist and the Monstrance.
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Why is it, you know I love this, even though I'm an old man now, I feel spiritually a Zoomer.
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Why is it that the Zoomers are, like the millennials are kind of cringe and liberal, like classically
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And the Zoomers are classical, hardcore, common good.
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And the millennials are like, we can't know if God exists.
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And the Zoomers are like, God, like you will submit to the Roman pontiff.
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I honestly think it was brought out of necessity because things just got so out of control
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We crave a tether to something that is foundational and doesn't change with the whims of day to
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And that's why Catholicism in particular is so appealing to Gen Zers because this is
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something that largely hasn't changed for 2,000 years.
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We can draw a straight line backwards in history.
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And the classical liturgy and the substance of the Eucharist and reading the church fathers
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is like all any Zoomer wants to talk about right now because your alternative is the sparkle
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I just happened to react to a video literally reciting the sparkle creed from a female priest.
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When I bring this up, though, with like the priestesses or whatever, I have these guys
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write in and they say, hey, Michael, I'm a Lutheran.
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There are two sects of Lutheranism, I will say.
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But it's disheartening when I'm in Washington, D.C. where I live and I walk into the National
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Cathedral and there's literally a stained glass window of like BLM because the Episcopals
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I wish I was there because I would have had some great facial expressions.
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I was sitting right ahead of, Posobiec was there and there were a bunch of us and we
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were sitting, you know, on the left side and then in the center right there was Trump
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And I remember when that lady was going off on, you know, the poor, aggrieved, homosexual
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It was this amazing moment where they're like, oh, it's going down.
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You talk about the heresy of Americanism and the error of liberalism.
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Every wife knows exactly what Usha Vance was thinking in that moment.
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