The Michael Knowles Show - Trans-Women FURIOUS At Lesbians： Michael Knowles REACTS

00:00:00.000 Okay, today is...

00:00:02.000 Sex Change Saturday!

00:00:04.800 Ba-da-ba-ba-da-ba!

00:00:08.780 I want that to be the permanent stinger.

00:00:10.920 So what is this, a bunch of crazy videos?

00:00:13.260 Well, there's a lot of internet drama going on,

00:00:15.080 and if you follow, like, Kendrick Lamar and Drake,

00:00:17.560 Blake Lively, and accountability.

00:00:19.480 All the time.

00:00:21.280 They not like us. They not like us.

00:00:23.700 The big one, though, are lesbians versus trans dudes

00:00:27.760 angry they won't hook up with them.

00:00:29.480 Lesbians versus...

00:00:32.880 A trans dude,

00:00:34.520 meaning a woman who thinks she's a man?

00:00:39.120 No, no. Dudes pretending to be women.

00:00:41.260 Mad that lesbians won't hook up with them.

00:00:43.320 So the men pretending to be women

00:00:45.120 are mad that the lesbians won't hook up with them.

00:00:48.380 Yes.

00:00:48.740 It's not the lesbians who are angry at the men who think that they're women

00:00:51.460 that the men who think that they're women won't hook up with the lesbians.

00:00:53.780 And I like less than half of you, half as well as you deserve.

00:00:58.600 Exactly.

00:00:59.000 Got it.

00:01:00.460 I think.

00:01:01.400 If you're cis and you won't date trans folks,

00:01:04.700 you're transphobe.

00:01:08.100 Now, if that made you mad,

00:01:10.120 maybe it's your prejudices that you need to probe.

00:01:14.300 No matter the reasons you've got,

00:01:17.520 you're reducing us to when we disrobe.

00:01:19.740 And that kind of thinking ain't sophisticated.

00:01:25.140 It's more like microbes.

00:01:27.760 But transphobia's transphobia and you won't get a pass when we're through.

00:01:33.520 When we're through?

00:01:34.540 We're human beings,

00:01:36.180 not sex organs,

00:01:37.220 cis lesbians,

00:01:38.100 I'm talking to you.

00:01:40.240 You won't get a pass

00:01:42.580 for not sleeping with me when we're through.

00:01:46.240 You won't get a pass.

00:01:47.320 You will sleep with me.

00:01:49.380 You,

00:01:49.580 I'm a beautiful woman.

00:01:51.620 And you,

00:01:53.200 other women,

00:01:54.000 you will sleep with me.

00:01:55.860 Or else you're a trans.

00:01:57.320 You won't get a pass for that when we're through.

00:01:59.160 This is your beautiful pride culture, folks.

00:02:05.320 That guy,

00:02:06.080 It is man.

00:02:07.080 I am told,

00:02:08.220 is allegedly a Northwestern professor.

00:02:11.600 That can't be real.

00:02:12.760 Is that real?

00:02:13.660 Allegedly.

00:02:14.480 That can't,

00:02:15.140 that cannot be real.

00:02:16.820 There's no community notes correcting it.

00:02:23.500 Alright, I'm going to say allegedly,

00:02:24.800 allegedly,

00:02:25.240 because I don't,

00:02:25.960 that is,

00:02:26.540 there are like three schools

00:02:29.120 you can send your kids to

00:02:30.180 in this country anymore.

00:02:31.920 What is it?

00:02:32.220 Ave Maria,

00:02:33.140 Hillsdale,

00:02:34.520 I don't know,

00:02:35.420 Liberty,

00:02:36.060 I guess,

00:02:36.540 Franciscan,

00:02:37.320 I don't,

00:02:38.220 What?

00:02:41.300 Next one.

00:02:42.300 Quick reminder to some cis lesbians out there,

00:02:44.740 but please stop centering your lesbianism

00:02:46.600 around penis disgust.

00:02:47.920 Nobody wants to see your dick, dude.

00:02:49.720 I'm not saying that any trauma

00:02:51.020 that you have around them isn't valid,

00:02:52.820 but I am saying that it shouldn't define

00:02:54.820 your lesbianism.

00:02:56.540 The widespread penis disgust

00:02:57.980 that a lot of cis lesbians have

00:02:59.440 is actually really trans misogynistic

00:03:00.960 because it makes

00:03:01.720 trans feminine lesbians

00:03:02.980 like myself

00:03:03.560 feel really disgusting

00:03:04.920 just for existing as lesbians

00:03:06.580 in the body that we do.

00:03:07.800 It also creates a lot of pressure

00:03:09.080 for trans feminine lesbians

00:03:10.380 to get bottom surgery,

00:03:11.500 which is very scary

00:03:12.420 and expensive

00:03:13.140 when we otherwise wouldn't,

00:03:14.860 just to feel valid

00:03:16.040 within the lesbian community

00:03:17.400 and receive support

00:03:18.420 and not feel disgusting.

00:03:20.080 So,

00:03:20.660 please stop

00:03:21.180 and check your trans misogyny

00:03:22.320 since there's other stuff too.

00:03:23.420 I don't know

00:03:25.540 if this is parody or not.

00:03:27.140 It's so fluent

00:03:28.860 that I think it's parody,

00:03:31.920 but also I guess

00:03:32.860 it's so fluent

00:03:33.620 that maybe it's not.

00:03:35.020 Like, like,

00:03:35.420 because either

00:03:36.540 it was all scripted out,

00:03:38.400 the trans feminine

00:03:39.680 disgust

00:03:40.840 of the trans misogyny

00:03:42.300 from the,

00:03:42.980 either it was scripted out perfectly

00:03:44.760 or,

00:03:45.620 what the hell?

00:03:46.580 The thing is,

00:03:48.680 if this were parody,

00:03:49.820 that guy

00:03:50.560 is

00:03:51.340 Brando.

00:03:53.660 And then I do not forgive.

00:03:55.520 You know,

00:03:55.860 I mean that,

00:03:56.380 because he didn't crack once.

00:04:01.280 You actually,

00:04:02.840 the fact that

00:04:03.660 we,

00:04:04.620 the fact that we have

00:04:06.960 phalluses

00:04:07.640 and that you don't like that

00:04:09.860 really makes us feel

00:04:10.980 like kind of awkward

00:04:11.860 in our lesbianism.

00:04:12.960 Yes,

00:04:13.160 you probably should feel

00:04:14.100 awkward in your lesbianism.

00:04:15.320 This is like

00:04:19.640 Monty Python.

00:04:20.880 Next one.

00:04:25.920 Yes,

00:04:26.680 genital preferences

00:04:27.400 are always transphobic.

00:04:29.280 You're welcome.

00:04:30.040 No one asked you.

00:04:32.260 No,

00:04:32.400 but seriously,

00:04:33.040 deciding that you don't

00:04:33.940 want to be

00:04:34.640 intimate with someone

00:04:36.420 because of the genitals

00:04:38.180 they have

00:04:38.860 is transphobic.

00:04:39.960 This means that this person

00:04:41.060 is not open

00:04:41.880 to dating

00:04:42.740 trans women,

00:04:44.020 which invalidates

00:04:44.860 their womenhood.

00:04:45.720 It's every man's right

00:04:46.480 to have babies

00:04:47.160 if he wants them.

00:04:48.240 But you can't have babies.

00:04:50.260 Don't you oppress me.

00:04:51.340 Not only that,

00:04:51.920 it makes assumptions

00:04:52.640 about the way

00:04:53.500 that trans people

00:04:54.240 are going to want to use

00:04:55.340 those genitals.

00:04:56.780 The idea that trans people

00:04:58.380 use the body parts

00:04:59.320 that they have

00:05:00.000 in the same way

00:05:00.660 that cis people

00:05:01.320 with those same body parts do.

00:05:02.800 This is revolting,

00:05:03.740 this conversation.

00:05:05.220 Say it with me.

00:05:06.340 Genital preferences

00:05:07.100 are always transphobic.

00:05:08.700 Okay.

00:05:09.460 So,

00:05:10.080 the worthwhile thing

00:05:11.720 that this person

00:05:12.360 is saying

00:05:12.780 is

00:05:14.000 that preferences

00:05:15.360 aren't everything.

00:05:16.420 This is actually

00:05:17.180 interesting and correct.

00:05:18.860 Though,

00:05:19.280 this person,

00:05:20.260 who I think is a woman,

00:05:21.660 is using the,

00:05:22.960 I think,

00:05:23.400 I don't know,

00:05:23.980 is using that argument

00:05:26.200 to the opposite

00:05:27.400 of the truth.

00:05:29.060 Which is,

00:05:30.500 she says,

00:05:31.220 if you have preferences,

00:05:34.400 if you're a woman

00:05:34.980 and you don't want

00:05:35.620 to sleep with a man,

00:05:36.620 even a man who thinks

00:05:38.440 he's a woman,

00:05:39.840 you know,

00:05:40.140 you're phobic.

00:05:41.220 That's awful.

00:05:41.740 You don't have the right

00:05:42.240 to do that.

00:05:42.800 You are going to have

00:05:43.520 sex with me.

00:05:44.460 No, James.

00:05:45.180 I don't want to.

00:05:46.120 Yes, you do.

00:05:47.240 No, I don't.

00:05:48.160 Yes, you do.

00:05:49.480 No, I don't.

00:05:50.680 Yes, you do.

00:05:52.160 Okay, yes.

00:05:52.860 You have to sleep

00:05:53.560 with the dude.

00:05:55.120 So, maybe it's a man.

00:05:56.160 I don't know.

00:05:57.200 There's intentional ambiguity here.

00:06:00.420 However,

00:06:00.960 the conservative

00:06:01.700 would say the same

00:06:02.640 kind of thing,

00:06:03.460 which is,

00:06:04.060 just because you have

00:06:04.660 a preference,

00:06:05.240 that doesn't justify

00:06:06.180 your desire

00:06:07.900 to sleep with a person.

00:06:09.860 In other words,

00:06:10.880 if you're a man

00:06:12.260 and you want to

00:06:14.240 do stuff like that

00:06:15.560 with another man,

00:06:17.100 the conservative would say,

00:06:18.200 look,

00:06:18.420 you're going to do

00:06:18.760 whatever you want,

00:06:19.280 but maybe you shouldn't.

00:06:20.160 You don't have to.

00:06:20.800 You don't have to act

00:06:21.560 on that desire.

00:06:22.200 If you're a lady

00:06:22.700 and you want to do

00:06:23.940 something a little odd

00:06:24.840 with another lady,

00:06:25.820 I guess you can,

00:06:26.820 but you don't have

00:06:27.560 to do that.

00:06:28.760 Your preferences

00:06:30.540 do not determine

00:06:31.560 your behavior

00:06:32.160 because you're

00:06:32.500 a rational creature

00:06:33.160 and you can make choices.

00:06:34.480 Choices in accord

00:06:35.380 with abstract conceptions

00:06:36.700 of justice and reality.

00:06:38.340 Okay?

00:06:38.720 Furthermore,

00:06:39.520 if you're a man

00:06:41.760 who desires to be a woman,

00:06:43.820 who has a preference

00:06:44.460 to be a woman,

00:06:45.500 you don't have to

00:06:46.780 pretend to be a woman.

00:06:47.920 Oh.

00:06:48.880 You can tether yourself

00:06:49.800 to reality.

00:06:50.800 But this argument

00:06:52.140 is actually the best one

00:06:52.920 I've heard so far,

00:06:53.740 which is,

00:06:54.600 hey,

00:06:54.720 preferences aren't everything.

00:06:55.840 You're right.

00:06:56.380 Preferences aren't everything.

00:06:57.880 Preferences are subjective.

00:06:59.540 Preferences can be

00:07:00.380 divorced totally

00:07:01.600 from reality.

00:07:02.940 What will be stronger,

00:07:04.620 what is more likely

00:07:05.260 to guide you

00:07:05.880 into flourishing

00:07:06.520 is to

00:07:08.100 ground your behavior

00:07:10.640 on reason

00:07:11.420 and to bring

00:07:12.460 your subjective preferences

00:07:13.920 and your repetitive will

00:07:15.120 into line

00:07:16.140 with your reason

00:07:16.960 so that you're being led

00:07:18.000 by your rational will

00:07:19.320 and you're doing things

00:07:20.560 that are normal

00:07:21.620 and conducive

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00:08:30.400 K-N-O-W-L-E-S

00:08:32.400 I've realized

00:08:33.240 that I've hurt

00:08:33.840 the trans community

00:08:34.600 even though

00:08:35.000 that was never

00:08:35.520 my intention.

00:08:36.460 I hate what

00:08:37.400 you've done to us!

00:08:39.060 AHHHHH!

00:08:41.360 When I initially

00:08:42.120 responded to that tweet,

00:08:43.620 I was just trying

00:08:44.300 to defend my community.

00:08:45.800 Lesbians face

00:08:46.460 a lot of hatred

00:08:47.120 from people

00:08:47.680 within our community

00:08:48.460 and from,

00:08:49.180 you know,

00:08:50.060 straight people.

00:08:50.740 No fear.

00:08:51.820 I want to be a lesbian.

00:08:53.820 I never intended

00:08:54.720 to hurt anybody.

00:08:55.720 I thought that

00:08:56.300 this was just

00:08:56.840 a common opinion.

00:08:57.720 And I also realized

00:08:59.040 that using the terms

00:09:00.160 of female genitals

00:09:01.860 and male genitals

00:09:02.520 was offensive.

00:09:04.080 I thought that

00:09:04.560 they were just

00:09:05.120 neutral medical terms

00:09:06.460 that everybody used

00:09:07.920 but apparently not.

00:09:09.260 From penis to vagina.

00:09:11.620 In a video

00:09:12.180 in the comment section,

00:09:13.080 I asked for alternatives

00:09:14.400 to those words

00:09:15.280 because I figured out

00:09:16.560 that they were

00:09:17.080 not appropriate.

00:09:18.180 And I also never

00:09:18.980 meant to agree

00:09:19.680 with a TERF.

00:09:20.560 I didn't check

00:09:21.200 the username.

00:09:22.440 As many of you know,

00:09:23.260 I get thousands

00:09:23.800 of comments a day.

00:09:24.580 I don't really have time

00:09:25.320 to look at the username.

00:09:26.380 Aren't I the popular one?

00:09:28.780 So I had no idea

00:09:29.880 otherwise I wouldn't

00:09:31.100 have responded to it.

00:09:32.500 I personally have been

00:09:34.000 not comfortable

00:09:35.620 with the genitals

00:09:37.180 associated with people

00:09:38.720 who are assigned

00:09:39.180 male at birth.

00:09:40.100 An enormous wang.

00:09:41.600 Ever since I was a kid,

00:09:42.800 I've never really

00:09:43.380 been comfortable with it.

00:09:45.000 Huge.

00:09:45.760 Pecker!

00:09:46.360 I simply wouldn't

00:09:47.200 be able to date

00:09:48.060 somebody

00:09:48.880 with those parts.

00:09:51.500 Really?

00:09:51.940 You know,

00:09:52.260 there's all this

00:09:52.740 intentional ambiguity

00:09:53.620 but I guess this is a woman

00:09:54.820 who says,

00:09:55.700 I don't want to date

00:09:56.560 a man who says

00:09:57.400 that he's a woman.

00:09:58.080 Dick!

00:09:58.600 Because I guess

00:09:59.180 she's a lesbian.

00:10:00.260 Notice,

00:10:00.800 she goes,

00:10:01.240 ever since I was

00:10:01.900 a little kid,

00:10:02.680 I've been uncomfortable

00:10:03.660 with male genitals.

00:10:06.400 Privates!

00:10:07.060 Lesbians are statistically

00:10:08.280 much more likely

00:10:09.560 than other people

00:10:10.320 to have suffered

00:10:12.280 abuse as children.

00:10:13.680 Trans identifying people

00:10:14.600 are much more likely

00:10:16.020 than other people

00:10:16.800 to have suffered

00:10:17.520 abuse as children.

00:10:18.400 The fact that she can say,

00:10:19.840 since I was a little kid,

00:10:21.300 I've really had this problem

00:10:22.440 with the genitals

00:10:23.840 of the opposite sex,

00:10:24.720 Johnson would seem

00:10:25.900 to insinuate

00:10:26.520 maybe this was

00:10:27.220 a problem there

00:10:27.940 and in her defense,

00:10:29.120 she's saying,

00:10:29.940 it seems to be insinuating,

00:10:31.300 okay,

00:10:31.460 I've suffered

00:10:32.040 some kind of trauma

00:10:32.860 and I don't want

00:10:34.180 to have normal relations

00:10:35.680 and then the pro-trans side

00:10:37.920 is saying,

00:10:38.260 well,

00:10:38.360 you have to,

00:10:39.100 you have to,

00:10:39.920 I'm going to re-traumatize

00:10:41.100 you.

00:10:41.240 And the whole thing

00:10:42.340 is just so perverse

00:10:44.060 and kind of predictable

00:10:45.140 but no one's allowed

00:10:46.360 to,

00:10:47.440 at least in the popular culture,

00:10:48.960 no one's really allowed

00:10:49.560 to state the hard truths

00:10:50.900 as to how things

00:10:52.520 have gone awry.

00:10:53.260 You're not even allowed

00:10:53.860 to say that it's gone awry.

00:10:54.920 All you can do

00:10:55.620 is make all of these apologies

00:10:57.460 for making any kind

00:10:58.640 of normative claim at all

00:10:59.740 as she is doing.

00:11:00.620 Keep going.

00:11:01.260 It just brings up

00:11:02.100 too much for me.

00:11:03.400 It's just,

00:11:04.240 it would be a bad relationship

00:11:05.740 for both of the people involved.

00:11:07.740 I would happily date

00:11:08.900 a post-op trans woman

00:11:10.500 as long as she was a butch

00:11:11.980 because that's my type.

00:11:13.220 What isn't sexy

00:11:14.780 about other butches?

00:11:15.980 Oh my god.

00:11:17.320 I've also never excluded

00:11:18.720 trans women

00:11:19.780 from my discussions

00:11:20.520 on feminism.

00:11:21.620 I've argued with my dad

00:11:22.980 a multitude of times

00:11:24.760 trying to tell him

00:11:25.660 that trans people

00:11:26.680 deserve rights

00:11:27.520 and deserve to have

00:11:28.540 their pronouns respected.

00:11:30.140 My pronouns are he, he, he.

00:11:32.360 I also did a presentation

00:11:33.480 in 10th grade

00:11:34.200 about how trans people

00:11:35.540 should be in the military.

00:11:36.680 I'm sorry to any of those

00:11:38.040 who I offended.

00:11:39.340 I, it was never my intention.

00:11:41.200 You are by no means

00:11:42.020 obligated to accept my apology.

00:11:44.180 This is just an explanation

00:11:45.280 of my intentions

00:11:46.660 and I'm really sorry.

00:11:48.320 When I made the comment

00:11:50.000 agreeing with the TERF,

00:11:51.020 which again,

00:11:51.560 I had no idea

00:11:52.520 that she was a TERF.

00:11:53.440 I didn't look at her username.

00:11:54.880 In my head,

00:11:55.660 I was thinking

00:11:56.540 it does sound

00:11:58.060 vaguely reminiscent

00:11:58.940 of conversion therapy

00:12:00.080 to make somebody

00:12:01.120 like something

00:12:01.760 that they just don't.

00:12:04.080 Conversion therapy.

00:12:06.680 This part at the end

00:12:08.240 is a really silly claim.

00:12:11.200 It sounds reminiscent

00:12:12.700 of conversion therapy

00:12:13.860 to make someone

00:12:14.580 like something

00:12:15.140 that they don't.

00:12:16.040 So you're trying

00:12:16.520 to get me to like men,

00:12:18.460 but I don't like men.

00:12:20.380 So stop trying to

00:12:21.520 put me through

00:12:22.200 conversion therapy.

00:12:23.280 The term conversion therapy

00:12:24.560 is a very silly term.

00:12:26.240 It's a polemical term

00:12:27.300 because all therapy

00:12:29.460 is conversion therapy.

00:12:30.840 All therapy.

00:12:31.360 I know we're told now

00:12:33.100 by both political parties,

00:12:34.240 well, conversion therapy

00:12:35.140 is terrible.

00:12:36.260 All therapy

00:12:37.000 is conversion therapy.

00:12:38.480 No one in principle

00:12:39.920 goes to the therapist

00:12:40.760 and says,

00:12:41.240 hey, I got all these problems,

00:12:43.100 Doc,

00:12:43.400 and I want you to

00:12:44.680 not change me at all.

00:12:46.440 I got all these problems.

00:12:48.040 I'm really, really troubled,

00:12:49.360 but make sure

00:12:49.980 you don't change my mind

00:12:51.300 or behaviors about anything.

00:12:53.060 I want to remain

00:12:53.760 exactly as I am, Doc.

00:12:55.960 That's why I'm here

00:12:56.720 at therapy.

00:12:57.520 Shut the hell up

00:12:58.360 and don't bother me again.

00:12:59.680 The whole point of therapy

00:13:02.240 in principle

00:13:03.660 is to change your mind

00:13:05.800 about something,

00:13:06.420 change your feelings

00:13:07.100 about something,

00:13:07.720 change your behaviors

00:13:08.440 in some way.

00:13:09.440 That is what therapy

00:13:10.440 exists for.

00:13:11.220 Now, it's ironic

00:13:12.780 that today

00:13:13.940 most people

00:13:14.940 who go to therapy

00:13:15.680 for years and years

00:13:16.580 and decades

00:13:16.960 actually don't want

00:13:17.580 to change anything.

00:13:18.220 They just want a drug dealer.

00:13:19.240 They don't actually want

00:13:19.760 a therapist.

00:13:20.140 So they say,

00:13:20.840 hey, I got all these problems.

00:13:22.000 Can I have some Xanax, please?

00:13:23.540 Thank you.

00:13:24.520 Thanks, Doc.

00:13:25.160 I'll be back next week.

00:13:26.140 Oh, for God's sake.

00:13:27.440 Again, we go.

00:13:28.380 But in principle,

00:13:28.840 well, at least the point

00:13:29.460 of therapy

00:13:29.800 is to change your mind

00:13:30.860 about something.

00:13:31.760 But if you refuse

00:13:33.520 to change your mind

00:13:34.240 or if you refuse

00:13:35.960 to believe

00:13:36.240 that there's even

00:13:36.680 an objective truth

00:13:37.560 that you might

00:13:38.240 change your mind to,

00:13:39.880 you're probably

00:13:41.440 not going to get

00:13:41.860 very far

00:13:42.320 and you're going

00:13:42.880 to remain confused

00:13:43.640 and troubled

00:13:44.120 as these people are.

00:13:45.560 I'm Michael Knowles.

00:13:46.120 This is The Michael Knowles Show.

00:13:46.820 See you tomorrow.

00:13:47.820 Oh, and Mary Margaret

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The Michael Knowles Show - February 15, 2025

Trans-Women FURIOUS At Lesbians： Michael Knowles REACTS

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