The Michael Knowles Show - Transgenderism： Michael Knowles Vs Protestors ｜ Cross The Picket Line

00:00:00.000 When a conservative speaks on a college campus, anything can happen. 0.74

00:00:05.520 We're not going to f***ing eradicate anyone!

00:00:08.740 Outraids boiling over at the University of Buffalo. 0.99

00:00:11.360 Mr. Knowles calling for an eradication of transgenderism is a call for genocide.

00:00:18.420 Hundreds of students and community members gathered in protest.

00:00:23.360 Do you have anything else to say?

00:00:25.660 Chanting, picketing, and some even needing police restraint.

00:00:28.840 You want to tell me why I should leave?

00:00:30.220 Because transphobia is beta behavior, and you are a beta male. You should leave.

00:00:34.360 Get out, man! I'm serious! Get out!

00:00:38.840 So what would cause a liberal lynch mob to attempt to shut me down and intimidate attendees before I uttered a word? 0.94

00:00:46.000 Are you a fascist? You look like one. 0.98

00:00:48.260 Do I?

00:00:48.680 Yeah.

00:00:49.480 Can we ask you a few questions?

00:00:50.640 No, I do mine. Thank you.

00:00:52.840 My producer attempted to find out why so many people seemed hell-bent on keeping me out.

00:00:57.620 What brings you out here today?

00:00:58.740 Um, there is a extremist speaker that is speaking at UB tonight.

00:01:04.060 I have some, like, transgender friends, and they were really hurt by, like, a lot of the news and, like, a lot of, like, what was happening.

00:01:12.280 I wanted to, like, stand with my community.

00:01:15.500 I think you just perpetuate hate towards lots of people that don't deserve it.

00:01:19.160 Oh, I'm sorry you feel that way, but I think you're mistaken.

00:01:21.900 This many people are here because they don't believe in that hate. They don't want to continue the hate.

00:01:25.920 We're here because we want to drown out the noise that he's making.

00:01:28.460 Have you ever, uh, watched one of Michael Knowles' speeches or seen his show in its entirety, not just, like, one of the clips?

00:01:34.020 I have not, no. I don't need to, though.

00:01:36.680 College students are often uninformed. That's why they're in college. They're supposed to get educated.

00:01:41.560 But it seems they all had the same reason for hating me specifically.

00:01:45.980 For the good of society, and especially for the good of the poor people who have fallen prey to this confusion, transgenderism must be eradicated from public life entirely. 1.00

00:01:58.080 I have seen some of his comments about the trans community specifically. 0.98

00:02:01.920 Saying that trans people should be eradicated from our communities. 0.93

00:02:05.160 You shouldn't be saying that they should be eradicated if you have never been in their shoes. 0.99

00:02:09.380 Can I just tell you we're not going to f***ing eradicate anyone! F*** you guys! 1.00

00:02:14.180 I don't want to eradicate anybody either. 1.00

00:02:16.780 F*** you guys! 1.00

00:02:17.960 Now, where could they have gotten that idea? 1.00

00:02:20.320 Numerous headlines after this speech said he wants to get rid of transgender people. 0.99

00:02:25.560 Basically just calling for the eradication of trans people. 0.99

00:02:28.060 Literally calling for a genocide. 0.99

00:02:30.080 Genocidal call. 0.81

00:02:31.160 What else could you possibly mean besides getting rid of those people?

00:02:35.560 Now, that was all news to me.

00:02:37.460 I never considered myself a particularly genocidal kind of guy.

00:02:41.940 But that's what the news said.

00:02:44.180 Almost as if the entire liberal establishment had been intentionally lying about what I said.

00:02:51.860 The university administration dug in its heels and did nothing to correct the record before my speech.

00:02:57.960 Instead, the administrators doubled down on the defamation.

00:03:02.200 Unfortunately, the university only allowed 300 people to come listen to this speech.

00:03:06.440 Even though about 1,000 people tried to get tickets.

00:03:10.360 Now, among those who got in, there were a lot who liked what I had to say.

00:03:14.680 But there were even a few who came in prepared to disagree with me.

00:03:19.520 And they sat down not just to hear the speech, but sat down opposite me to hash out our differences in person.

00:03:25.700 When one calls to eradicate cancer, one is not suggesting that we ought to murder the cancer patients. 0.92

00:03:30.960 So how did these liberal news editors come up with their headline that I wanted to commit a genocide of transgender people?

00:03:38.220 Freedom itself cannot exist without limits.

00:03:42.460 The question before us is not how free our society ought to be, but rather what will delineate the limits of freedom.

00:03:50.180 Becca, thank you for sitting down.

00:03:53.580 Of course.

00:03:54.520 Camilla, Karime, thank you for sitting down.

00:03:57.960 You were outside of the auditorium with the protesters of this speech.

00:04:02.480 Why were you protesting?

00:04:03.680 I was genuinely wondering how a man is going to explain how radical feminism is hurting women.

00:04:11.820 Did I convince you?

00:04:12.940 No.

00:04:13.840 No, not really.

00:04:15.500 No.

00:04:16.060 I think you brought up some good points on how there are certain types of feminism that aren't great. 1.00

00:04:26.020 Because there's always a radical something that's not good.

00:04:28.960 There's always going too far and doing too little.

00:04:31.400 I saw your poster also, and I was like, oh, it's just another speaker just coming in and talking. 0.64

00:04:39.600 And then I started saying transgenderism should be eradicated. 1.00

00:04:43.600 And as you know, eradicated is a big word. 0.99

00:04:47.620 Yeah, eradicated.

00:04:49.080 It's five syllables.

00:04:51.220 Yeah.

00:04:51.780 You know, it could be taken into different things, like to destroy and everything like that, and to get rid of, which I think that's where you were going with.

00:05:02.400 That is very much.

00:05:03.360 Get rid of.

00:05:04.080 Yeah, yeah.

00:05:04.400 I have some, like, transgender friends, and they were really hurt by, like, a lot of the news and, like, a lot of, like, what was happening.

00:05:13.000 I wanted to, like, stand with my community.

00:05:15.980 My argument is not, as some newspapers very irresponsibly reported, that I want to, you know, exterminate people or something.

00:05:21.920 But my argument is that this whole idea of transgenderism is pretty new.

00:05:26.920 You both have friends who identify in this way.

00:05:29.200 There are many more people, right, who say, I am transgender.

00:05:32.060 And so my question is, why are so many more people saying that now?

00:05:37.040 You said that, like, this, like, being transgender is this new ideology. 0.97

00:05:41.600 Yeah.

00:05:42.520 It's not.

00:05:43.220 There's evidence of people who were transgender in ancient Greece, Rome.

00:05:50.020 Judaism is an example of a religion that acknowledges, I think, six or seven genders.

00:05:56.300 I don't think that's quite true.

00:05:58.020 And my evidence for that would be in the very first book of the Torah in Genesis.

00:06:03.360 One of the most prominent lines is that in the beginning, God created man.

00:06:08.200 Both male and female created he them. 0.93

00:06:10.380 It's not, but Judaism, I think what the original translation, I can't cite my source right now, okay.

00:06:18.280 But from what I've learned going to different, like, religious schools is that they.

00:06:24.620 Jewish schools?

00:06:25.520 Jewish synagogues, temples.

00:06:27.420 I've tried and, like, experienced different religions.

00:06:30.160 They said that the original text said Adam and Eve as in one being, one, like.

00:06:35.980 Well, man.

00:06:36.860 Yeah, man.

00:06:37.380 So, in the earliest chapters of Genesis, you have the creation of man in Adam.

00:06:43.160 And then Eve is created from Adam's rib.

00:06:45.920 But she would be the other sex. 0.98

00:06:48.100 What you're citing is this line that a lot of people who are pro-transgender will say,

00:06:52.080 which is, you know, actually, in some Native American tribe that I can't quite name right now,

00:06:55.820 I'm sure they believe in a third and a fourth and a fifth gender.

00:06:59.140 But that just isn't true.

00:07:00.480 That's been made up by white liberals.

00:07:02.660 You know the movie Mulan?

00:07:03.520 Disney?

00:07:04.000 Disney World?

00:07:04.240 I haven't seen it, but I've heard of it.

00:07:05.600 Mulan, he dresses as a man, right, goes to war.

00:07:08.140 That's based off of true history.

00:07:10.780 Oh, yes, cross-dressing has occurred in history.

00:07:12.820 Not just cross-dressing, but people who went to—

00:07:14.860 In Mulan, did the female character think she was a man? 0.97

00:07:17.960 No.

00:07:18.480 Oh, okay.

00:07:18.880 Why there's so many spikes in, like, people saying that they're transgender is because people are much more comfortable now, like, going out and saying that they're, like, transgender because they know that there now is, like, that community that will accept them.

00:07:34.680 What if they're not really comfortable, though?

00:07:36.480 There's a guy who pioneered the transgender surgery at Johns Hopkins.

00:07:40.480 His name is Dr. Paul McHugh.

00:07:42.040 And he created the Gender Identity Clinic.

00:07:44.240 And he gave these experimental surgeries to men who thought they were women.

00:07:48.220 And he ended up shutting it down because he said people were not more satisfied in the long run after the surgery.

00:07:55.160 Is it possible that people expressing this transgender identity is not really making them all that happy?

00:08:02.140 No.

00:08:02.900 Okay.

00:08:03.600 Male transitioning into female.

00:08:05.340 So my aunt, she was never happier than she was after she transitioned.

00:08:14.180 So she's happy, like, she's living her life now that she's transitioned.

00:08:18.840 And, you know, it's like, you never know, like, what if they can't feel that way if they stayed how they were?

00:08:26.740 Do you think that the person you now call your aunt, do you think that, I would say, he really is a she, really is a woman?

00:08:36.320 Or is it just kind of a little bit of a white lie that we all tell to make this person feel better?

00:08:43.560 No, I think it is, you know, like, I think they actually are, like, female.

00:08:49.120 You know, I think there's just some people out there that are just born in the wrong bodies.

00:08:54.240 Can I ask you a question, though?

00:08:55.800 Please.

00:08:56.220 Do you have kids?

00:08:57.900 Yeah.

00:08:59.140 Hypothetically, right, saying, like, if your kids want to transition and they tell you, like, they don't feel like how they.

00:09:09.680 Yeah.

00:09:11.680 How would you respond?

00:09:12.800 Well, I would hope that the likelihood of that happening would be greatly diminished because I would not be raising them in a culture that would encourage it.

00:09:21.700 And so we do see, even if you think that there is a biological component to this gender identity ideology, we do see that in communities and ages that are more encouraging of it, you see the numbers of gender identity cases skyrocket.

00:09:35.400 So I think the fact that we're raising our children in a more traditional kind of environment would at least reduce the possibility.

00:09:42.660 More than one in five Zoomers identifies as LGBTQ+.

00:09:46.040 That's about a tenfold increase over the general population.

00:09:50.680 So obviously this is catching on.

00:09:52.900 Because now they can.

00:09:55.780 One in five people is just born that way.

00:09:58.340 You don't think there's any social contagion?

00:09:59.940 I, again, can't cite the exact source.

00:10:03.200 In my biology class, here in this school, we learned that there are some biological indicators for gay men.

00:10:10.320 They have a smaller gland in their brain that shows up on scans.

00:10:14.240 Even if that were the case, that wouldn't change the way that we necessarily ought to behave.

00:10:21.240 The way that we are born does not imply that we are slaves to our nature.

00:10:25.380 Because human beings, unlike the lower animals, have intellect and will.

00:10:29.920 And so because we have a rational will, we can actually curb some of our appetites and bring them into accord with our rational will, which is conscious.

00:10:36.880 Let's say, God forbid, that my kid has any problems.

00:10:40.660 One of which is he struggles with his view of sex or gender.

00:10:44.280 Probably what I would tell him is, hey, love you, buddy, you know, but this is reality.

00:10:50.660 And so I would try to ballast my kids or any loved one that I have in the truth.

00:10:55.900 Because there's a great quote from C.S. Lewis on this.

00:10:57.940 He says, if you look for truth, you might find comfort in the end.

00:11:02.400 But if you look for comfort, you will find neither truth nor comfort, only soft soap and wishful thinking to begin.

00:11:08.820 And in the end, despair.

00:11:10.820 Despair because you've got nothing to hold on to other than your own fleeting passions.

00:11:16.040 I have lots of trans friends.

00:11:18.640 You have lots of friends who think they're the opposite sex.

00:11:20.640 I have lots of friends who identify as trans.

00:11:22.040 But what if they're mistaken about that?

00:11:23.560 What?

00:11:24.300 What if they're wrong?

00:11:26.400 What if?

00:11:26.820 What if you're wrong about being straight?

00:11:29.060 I guess I would still behave as though I were straight.

00:11:31.220 My view of sex and gender is that our true sexuality and our true gender is not from some deeply hidden and authentic appetite that might be invisible to the public, but is actually prescribed according to our human nature.

00:11:44.640 But who are you to tell people that they're wrong?

00:11:47.020 Well, I'm a man with reason and a moral conscience.

00:11:49.600 And I am a woman with reason.

00:11:51.020 And I think it's not my place to tell somebody that what they're feeling is wrong.

00:11:56.140 You just told me that I'm wrong about transgenderism.

00:11:58.020 I'm saying how we all choose to live is our business because we live in society.

00:12:03.680 Why is it my business if somebody identifies as a woman or not? 0.56

00:12:07.500 Well, because right now women are allowed to have their own bathrooms. 1.00

00:12:10.660 And if a man is allowed to identify as a woman in public, women are not allowed to have their own bathrooms. 0.91

00:12:15.200 Do you know a man can just walk into the bathroom at any time, right? 0.99

00:12:17.620 But he'll be arrested in a normal society.

00:12:20.260 In our society, he could sue if he were kicked out of the women's bathroom. 0.99

00:12:23.660 People aren't just identifying as trans to look up girls' skirts.

00:12:27.140 Well, some people are.

00:12:28.020 Some people are there from the crimes.

00:12:29.720 Well, there was a pretty prominent crime in Loudoun County where a high school student who wore skirts and identified as gender ambiguous would go into the girls' room and he raped two girls at two different schools.

00:12:40.800 And it was covered up because of the transgender ideology. 0.99

00:12:43.540 I can't swear on it.

00:12:44.200 That's messed up.

00:12:44.820 It's messed up.

00:12:45.320 It's messed up.

00:12:46.060 I agree.

00:12:46.600 So there.

00:12:47.260 Right.

00:12:47.520 One example.

00:12:48.160 But to generalize that to all? 0.98

00:12:51.840 I'm not opposed to transgenderism because I think some individual who thinks he's transgender is a really rotten fella.

00:12:56.480 In fact, I'm only opposed to transgenderism because of the general fact that a man can't become a woman and a woman can't become a man because I can know that to be true. 1.00

00:13:04.380 And if I can't know that to be true objectively, then I can't really know much of anything at all, right?

00:13:08.700 But they choose, you know, to go through those transformations in order to, like, feel like their soul and their body actually, like, resonate.

00:13:18.760 So is the idea that your true identity is your soul and your body is only incidental to that?

00:13:26.460 That, you know, because to even say your true identity, I think, well, your true identity has got something to do with your body, I think.

00:13:32.680 I don't think your true identity has nothing to do with your body, right?

00:13:36.340 Yeah, I would say that.

00:13:37.520 I think we are.

00:13:37.860 We are souls.

00:13:39.640 And I think, well, growing up in a Catholic church, I think of myself as my soul.

00:13:45.240 And I think that my body, you know, it's my flesh.

00:13:48.660 It's temporary.

00:13:49.180 Are you still Catholic, would you say?

00:13:51.700 No.

00:13:52.800 No.

00:13:53.140 Because, you know, the Catholic idea is, yes, of course, we are souls in part, but we are also bodies and that our bodies and souls have a lot to do with one another and they're inseparable.

00:14:03.240 So, you know, the Catholic idea would be to say that your soul is contradicting your body.

00:14:08.660 That wouldn't, you could, that wouldn't, that would not go along with the Catholic idea.

00:14:12.040 And it's very interesting that there's this new, maybe religious view, which is that, no, our bodies, that's not, has nothing to do with our true selves.

00:14:20.040 That view is called Gnosticism, Gnostic dualism, that we're really our souls and the body is evil or something like that.

00:14:26.320 But I just wonder, how do we know that's true?

00:14:28.620 How do you know that you're not really, at least in part, your body?

00:14:32.800 They always say mind over body, you know?

00:14:36.280 You know, because your brain, you know, it's the thing that controls, like, everything, you know?

00:14:44.500 Like, sends off, like, these signals and...

00:14:47.880 But your brain is your body, too.

00:14:49.720 Your mind is not your body.

00:14:51.000 You know, that's the immaterial part, but the brain is part of your body.

00:14:53.900 It's an organ, right?

00:14:55.700 Well, yeah.

00:14:56.960 My primary problem with transgenderism is that it isn't true. 1.00

00:15:00.320 And because it's false, there are harmful consequences from it.

00:15:03.940 They're not doing any harm to you.

00:15:05.300 Yeah, well, I think that sexual dysfunctions caused a lot of harm.

00:15:08.720 The breakdown of the family, the obliteration of women's rights in private spaces,

00:15:12.720 the mutilation of children, which now we're seeing just abound in the country,

00:15:15.740 the sterilization of children.

00:15:16.820 So I think there are a lot of pretty concrete harms.

00:15:17.800 Did you know that hormone therapy was made for, like, girls who get their periods at the age of six?

00:15:23.240 You can go on estrogen and it will go back.

00:15:26.120 It'll change things.

00:15:26.320 It doesn't.

00:15:26.580 That's what they tell you, but it's not true.

00:15:28.040 And there are a lot of detransitioners who talk about the lifelong effects that... 0.99

00:15:32.940 Lifelong, okay.

00:15:33.540 But it's not...

00:15:35.540 Detransitioners, women who have male pattern baldness and a lowered voice for the rest of their life 1.00

00:15:39.460 and who are sterile, too.

00:15:41.040 I mean, that's pretty...

00:15:41.720 That's tough.

00:15:42.160 You can't have kids.

00:15:42.580 Yeah, and that happens...

00:15:43.120 Okay, I probably can't have kids either.

00:15:44.840 I have PCOS.

00:15:46.000 So what?

00:15:46.940 Do you think we should sterilize more children?

00:15:49.620 It's not sterilizing kids.

00:15:51.280 No, that is.

00:15:51.760 We were just talking about...

00:15:52.440 It's really not, though.

00:15:53.340 It's stopping them from going through puberty where they don't want to go.

00:15:57.980 I guess maybe we're just using different terms for the same thing.

00:16:00.180 Probably.

00:16:00.440 But in any case, I appreciate your coming on.

00:16:03.440 Oh, I have something for you.

00:16:04.700 I found it outside.

00:16:05.840 I thought you'd really like it.

00:16:06.960 Is this a fan letter?

00:16:09.300 Oh, it is.

00:16:09.880 Yeah.

00:16:10.240 Yeah.

00:16:12.140 Let me see.

00:16:14.280 There's a lot of them out there.

00:16:14.980 He was right.

00:16:15.660 Radical feminism did ruin my life. 1.00

00:16:17.480 And it's me dressed up as an official from the Biden administration, I think.

00:16:21.800 Yeah.

00:16:22.120 How do you know?

00:16:22.920 That's crazy.

00:16:24.980 It would appear I was not able to change the minds of these young students.

00:16:30.820 But they came, they listened, and they had a conversation.

00:16:34.120 So maybe, just maybe, I was able to plant a seed that could flourish in the future.

00:16:39.600 That's thanks to Young America's Foundation, which puts on these campus events.

00:16:43.940 These students, at least, were willing to come in and listen, not just spend the whole

00:16:48.460 evening shouting outside.

00:16:49.740 So perhaps down the line, those seeds of knowledge will flourish.

00:16:53.940 We can hope, and we can hope that more students will be willing to cross that picket line at

00:16:58.700 future campus events.

00:17:01.080 We'll see you there.

The Michael Knowles Show - April 01, 2023

Transgenderism： Michael Knowles Vs Protestors ｜ Cross The Picket Line

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