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00:01:00.000 It's been five years since the establishment of the Juneteenth National Independence Day

00:01:07.020 federal holiday, and Americans are once again celebrating with the now traditional rituals

00:01:12.780 of issuing politically correct corporate press releases and making racist jokes on social media.

00:01:18.880 We will get to why Juneteenth can never actually work. Then, speaking of black Americans, 0.57

00:01:24.300 I want to make sure I have this one right. U.S. ambassador to the Bahamas, Herschel Walker, warns tourists not to get sexually assaulted on jet skis.

00:01:36.760 Imagine you got in a time machine, you went back to the 90s and told somebody that that would, Ambassador Herschel Walker, Bahamas, raping on jet skis.

00:01:47.060 We'll get to that momentarily. First, Vice President J.D. Vance offers tough love for

00:01:51.480 the state of Israel, and Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard spends her last day

00:01:57.340 in office revealing that Dr. Fauci actually does bear responsibility for creating COVID.

00:02:03.260 It was basically all Fauci's fault the whole time. I'm Michael Knowles. This is The Michael Knowles Show.

00:02:17.060 welcome back to the show megan kelly has declared that we all need to come back together

00:02:31.120 on the right in advance of the midterms and looking ahead to 2028 especially the media

00:02:37.540 figures on the right especially the podcasters and the independent influencer people they've

00:02:42.500 all gone in a billion different directions, much to my consternation, as I have lamented for months

00:02:48.120 and months now. Megyn Kelly coming out saying, hey, you know what? Enough is enough. We got to

00:02:51.400 come back together. We will get to Megyn's commentary. First, though, can you believe

00:02:56.280 these white honky devils at the Daily Wire are making me work on Juneteenth? Can you believe 0.98

00:03:01.380 this? Keeping a man of swarth down, making us come into work, these devils making us come in 1.00

00:03:11.080 on George Floyd Day, completely, completely outrageous. George Floyd Day, which according

00:03:16.220 to the Federal Register is the Juneteenth National Independence Day. And the real problem with

00:03:22.800 Juneteenth, it's in that last part. No one had ever heard of the holiday before like five years

00:03:29.160 ago. And then we all had to pretend like we all knew exactly what it was. And then we had to

00:03:33.640 pretend it was the day that slavery was ended, even though it wasn't. There are multiple days

00:03:37.500 that you could say slavery ended in America and none of them were Juneteenth. Wasn't the day that 0.62

00:03:42.660 Lincoln issued the Emancipation Proclamation. Wasn't the day that the 13th Amendment was ratified.

00:03:47.340 It was the day that a mailman got to Texas and told them that slavery had already been abolished

00:03:52.020 or something. So anyway, then we pretended that it was a thing, and then it was established as

00:03:57.880 a federal holiday. And it was, I call it George Floyd Day. It actually was in response to the

00:04:04.060 riots and the murders and everything that followed in the civil unrest pushed entirely

00:04:08.880 by the left after George Floyd was killed resisting arrest and overdosing on fentanyl

00:04:14.560 at a dosage of four times the lethal limit. So in the spirit of Juneteenth, let's begin with

00:04:19.920 Michelle Obama being insufferable. The Obamas go on Good Morning America on ABC News, 1.00

00:04:24.760 and they are asked about the next stage of their life. They've just opened up the Obama

00:04:29.740 Presidential Center, which looks like a brutalist, communist, gigantic trash can, like literal trash 0.99

00:04:36.140 can, like Oscar the Grouch trash can in the middle of Chicago. They're launching this hideous center 1.00

00:04:42.920 for a hideous political project commemorating their hideous presidency. And they're asked,

00:04:48.400 okay, so what are you doing now? You've been out of office since 2016, 10 years on. What does the

00:04:54.180 next phase of your life look like? Here's Barack Obama's answer, and here's Michelle Obama's answer.

00:04:59.740 One word to describe your next chapter.

00:05:01.760 One word.

00:05:03.620 Fun.

00:05:06.380 Me.

00:05:09.200 That's what you call drop the mic.

00:05:12.760 You know what? 0.67

00:05:13.260 You seem to be grading her higher on her answer.

00:05:16.520 Everything about this clip just injected straight into my veins.

00:05:20.620 This confirming every briar I ever had about any of the people or the network involved in that clip.

00:05:27.180 first to barack what's this next chapter fun fun what does george bernard shaw say about hell

00:05:34.600 i think he says hell is the place where you have nothing to do but amuse yourself

00:05:37.380 this is gonna be fun nevertheless i don't want to be too harsh on barack here that's a fine answer

00:05:41.720 okay i've reached the peak of my career and now i'm i'm gonna have some fun and fun could be

00:05:49.160 selfish which it probably is with obama but fun could be uh actually self-sacrificial as well

00:05:55.220 fun could be supporting the community. You should have fun in your job, in your family life,

00:06:02.540 in your community. You should have fun. You should have delight in your life,

00:06:06.240 even when you're doing hard things. So, okay, I'll give him a pass on that answer.

00:06:10.600 You can't give Michelle Obama a pass, but you knew exactly what she was going to say.

00:06:14.460 Hey, what's this next chapter about? It's about me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me all through the

00:06:19.800 night. I mean, mine, I mean, mine, I mean, mine. And then what is the anchor say? She says,

00:06:26.680 that's what we call a mic drop. Is that a mic drop? Say, hey, hey, for the rest of my life,

00:06:31.940 I'm going to be really, really selfish and only think about me, me, me, me, me, me. Yeah,

00:06:36.240 that's what I'm talking about. Just so. You know what I call that? I call that misery when all you

00:06:45.100 do is think about yourself all the time. And women of a certain age who are liberal, 1.00

00:06:53.700 they all say this, and they all think it's good. They do this across races, across geography.

00:07:01.260 The commonality is liberal women. You heard this from Kim Kardashian. I've heard this from liberal 1.00

00:07:06.540 white friends of mine, all of whom are kind of approaching middle age or a little past middle

00:07:10.820 age in some cases. They say, what are you going to focus on now? I'm going to focus on me as

00:07:15.080 if that'll make us happier, as if they've just been so giving of all of their time and all of

00:07:20.320 their energy for all of their lives. They're so put upon, now they're going to focus on themselves.

00:07:24.260 The irony is, though, when you focus on yourself, you become more miserable.

00:07:29.760 And when you serve others, you actually do have delight. Because you know that you're doing

00:07:33.960 something good, and because you're acting in charity, charity, which is the most important

00:07:37.740 of the virtues. I'm going to focus on me, me, me. And this actually does tie into Juneteenth,

00:07:44.840 not just because the Obamas are black. It ties into Juneteenth, and Juneteenth will not work. 0.69

00:07:50.720 Juneteenth is a failure of a holiday, and it will always be politically correct corporate

00:07:56.400 press releases that we all roll our eyes at and people making racist jokes online. It will always

00:08:01.300 be that, and the reason it will always be that is not even because of the Juneteenth part of the

00:08:05.100 holiday. It's that second part where they say this is the National Independence Day. Hold up.

00:08:09.740 hold up. We already have a National Independence Day. It's the 4th of July.

00:08:15.460 The fact that radical left-wing activists with complete loser squish Republicans supporting them

00:08:21.760 really, really promoted Juneteenth, not even just sort of tolerated it, let it go,

00:08:26.680 but really promoted Juneteenth is as an alternative to the 4th of July.

00:08:32.420 It's to say the 4th of July is not good enough. It's to say that the American Revolution is not

00:08:36.240 good enough. It's to say that our founding fathers are not good enough. They were liars.

00:08:39.940 They were deceivers. They were slavers. They were terrible, selfish men. And the real 1.00

00:08:44.060 Independence Day is just later. It's at some nebulous date in the future.

00:08:51.920 The real Independence Day is when black people, I mean, it's a kind of racial grievance more 0.82

00:08:59.040 broadly, but it's instantiated in black people. It's when they finally threw over the yoke of 1.00

00:09:03.060 those racist white oppressors, namely the people who were the founding fathers and the framers 0.55

00:09:07.500 and the early settlers and all of the statesmen in America who have a traditional understanding 0.97

00:09:15.060 of the country. It was always an anti-American holiday based in racial grievance specifically,

00:09:26.040 progressive liberalism more generally. And immediately it was based on the mythology

00:09:32.540 of George Floyd. That's where it comes from. That's why you can call it George Floyd Day.

00:09:36.480 And the mythology of George Floyd was grounded in a lie. And at the most basic level, it's a

00:09:42.080 celebration of criminality, racial grievance, and drug overdoses. And subsequently, murders

00:09:49.380 and riots and looting. So it just doesn't work. You can't have a national holiday that is totally

00:09:56.340 opposed to the nation itself. That requires a political revolution that the left is seeking

00:10:01.380 to effect, but the American people aren't there for it because the American people are still

00:10:08.580 waving their flags on the 4th of July. The American people across races, across demographics

00:10:13.720 are electing Donald Trump with the popular vote. Trump wins an historic percentage of the black

00:10:19.240 vote, the black vote, which by the way, is the most stubborn in giving up on Trump.

00:10:25.420 Other demographics have declined in their support of Trump. Oddly enough, black men in particular

00:10:30.880 have stuck around. It's just not going to work. Sorry. Now, turning to better black politicians 1.00

00:10:35.800 than the Obamas, Ambassador Herschel Walker is warning tourists in the Bahamas not to get raped 0.99

00:10:42.740 on jet skis. Hello, I'm Ambassador Herschel Walker. I have an important message for Americans

00:10:52.260 visiting or living in the Bahamas. The beautiful waters here are one of the reasons people love

00:10:58.540 to visit these islands.

00:11:00.340 But I need to warn you about some serious dangers

00:11:03.660 associated with renting jet skis and small watercrafts

00:11:08.020 and swimming at beaches where jet skis and small watercrafts

00:11:11.740 are being operated in shadow waters,

00:11:14.460 particularly around Nassau and Paradise Island.

00:11:18.300 We've lost America's lives to preventable accidents.

00:11:22.140 Multiple visitors have been hospitalized.

00:11:25.240 America has also been sexually assaulted by jet ski operators who take victims to isolated islands.

00:11:32.600 Many watercrafts are unsafe and operators are unlicensed and uninsured.

00:11:38.040 That's why U.S. government employees are banned from renting or riding jet skis.

00:11:44.420 Okay, so he has a real point here, which is, like, this is a real problem, actually.

00:11:48.820 And so if you're an American going to the Bahamas, don't try not to be assaulted renting a jet ski.

00:11:52.940 That's actually a real point.

00:11:53.680 But the reason that that clip is going viral is because it's kind of weird, right?

00:12:00.900 20 years ago, 30 years ago, no one could have imagined that one day President Donald Trump's,

00:12:10.340 first part, ambassador to the Bahamas Herschel Walker would be warning Americans not to get

00:12:19.940 raped on jet skis. It's just, it's like a Mad Lib. It's, do you remember Mad Libs when you were 0.94

00:12:24.960 in school and you'd fill in, fill in a weird noun and a weird verb and a weird that we're living in

00:12:29.860 that we're living in a Mad Lib and the Libs are really mad coincidentally about it. So the reason

00:12:34.580 that has political import beyond just being kind of weird is it reminds us that one of the chief

00:12:43.160 errors that people make in politics is a failure of imagination. People just get stuck in a rut

00:12:49.740 in politics. They think that the circumstances in politics to which they have become accustomed

00:12:54.120 are some eternal truths. That the Republican nominee for president is always going to kind

00:12:59.600 of look like Mitt Romney and kind of talk like Mitt Romney. That the Democrats are always going

00:13:04.880 to, you know, they're going to be a little out there, but they're not going to really like hate

00:13:07.680 America or anything like that. And that's not true. I mean, you had, just to go back to the

00:13:14.140 Obamas, Barack Obama ran for president running against America, saying he wanted to fundamentally

00:13:18.900 transform it. And in response to him, the GOP did not nominate another Mitt Romney or John McCain

00:13:25.580 or Bob Dole or Bush. There was a kind of a mold for Republican politicians. Trump totally broke

00:13:31.860 that mold. And we actually can do things. We can change things. We have a lot more political power

00:13:40.480 than we thought that we did. You hear the left, which is always trying to subvert our institutions

00:13:46.320 of government and undermine our constitutional order and all the rest, try to create a new

00:13:51.120 Independence Day. They're so radical, they won't even be content with the 4th of July. They need

00:13:56.480 to make a new 4th of July based on left-wing racial grievance. The left is always seeking

00:14:01.340 to do that. And a lot of conservatives and Republicans have felt constrained. No, no,

00:14:06.520 we have to maintain the precise status quo in geopolitics or in immigration or in economic

00:14:11.980 policies. We're just bound to do it. And often they'll retrospectively backfill a lot of

00:14:19.300 principles or something. We'll get to this in a moment. Ross Douthat, the conservative at the

00:14:24.120 New York Times, was just grilling J.D. Vance on the change in tone brought about by the Trump

00:14:28.660 movement. And Vance, I think, had a very good answer on it. But we can do stuff, guys.

00:14:34.200 Politics is not static. If you don't like the way politics is going, you can just change it.

00:14:39.760 You are not powerless. There is a kind of op that has made us feel powerless, and ironically,

00:14:46.400 the op is to make us focus on individual liberty. The intense focus in recent decades from the

00:14:53.080 conservative movement on individual liberty has had this paradoxical, maybe intentional effect

00:14:58.920 of having us give up on a higher kind of liberty, which is political liberty. It's the liberty,

00:15:03.520 the exalted freedom that Edmund Burke is talking about, the father of Anglo-American conservatism.

00:15:07.260 So we focus on individual liberty, and then we use those libertarian pseudo-principles to come out and say, well, we can never, we said this in 2016, we can never regulate Facebook or Google.

00:15:20.840 You know, these big institutions that control our public square, they're silencing.

00:15:23.740 We can't regulate them.

00:15:24.880 You know, we have to just build your own Google, build your own Facebook.

00:15:27.740 We can't let the government come in and regulate them.

00:15:30.880 No, no, no, that would be, we would be violating our principles of individual liberty.

00:15:35.160 We'd be giving up the greater political liberty.

00:15:37.260 But the Founding Fathers were not radical libertarians. The Founding Fathers created

00:15:41.700 a new country, gave us a new constitution, and curtailed individual liberty substantially

00:15:48.120 to give states some liberty, to give a national government some liberty, to create a country.

00:15:53.060 We can do that. That's the spirit of an exalted freedom that we should think about

00:15:55.780 on the real Independence Day, not the fake one that we pretend to celebrate today.

00:15:59.340 Okay. Now, speaking of American involvement overseas, Tulsi Gabbard, you want to talk

00:16:04.240 about a real mic drop, Tulsi Gabbard dropping the mic on her way out of the DNI office. First,

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00:17:41.320 conditions and exclusions apply. Tulsi Gabbard is leaving the director of National Intelligence

00:17:47.440 Post. She's not being fired. She's not doing so because she's running for some other office.

00:17:51.780 She's leaving under very sad circumstances, which is that her husband is fighting an aggressive

00:17:56.060 form of cancer. So as she is heading out, her last day in office, she drops a bombshell we

00:18:03.300 have been waiting for for six years. Before the COVID pandemic, Dr. Fauci, as head of the National

00:18:10.420 Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, provided millions in U.S. taxpayer dollars

00:18:16.400 to fund dangerous gain-of-function research on bat coronaviruses at the Wuhan Institute of

00:18:22.980 virology, work which is now widely viewed as the source of the unintentional lab leak that

00:18:29.260 sparked the pandemic. Now, in support of President Trump's maximum transparency mandate, today,

00:18:36.020 on my final day as Director of National Intelligence, I'm releasing never-before-seen

00:18:41.380 communications and documents that expose exactly how Fauci worked with politicized career leadership

00:18:48.040 in the intelligence community to suppress the truth about his actions, the virus's lab leak

00:18:55.220 origins, and his role in directing U.S. funding for this dangerous research that caused immeasurable

00:19:02.300 harm and countless lost lives. Now, these documents expose Fauci's direct role in influencing and

00:19:09.380 manipulating IC assessments on COVID-19 and how Fauci lied to Congress in 2024 when under oath

00:19:17.980 he denied knowledge of or participation in discussions with intelligence officials about

00:19:24.240 viral research. The video goes on. I encourage you to watch it and then dig into some of these

00:19:29.220 documents. What was it, five years ago, six years ago, whenever it was? We released a series. I

00:19:36.300 released a series on Daily Wire. It's still available, called Fauci Unmasked, at a time

00:19:40.940 when you weren't really allowed to question His Excellency, the imperial leader, Dr. Vergi,

00:19:45.920 in which I said, hey, we have been told time and time again that Fauci had absolutely nothing to do

00:19:52.580 with the research that started COVID. And yet, what about this little smoking gun? What about

00:19:59.880 this little document from Peter Dajjak, where he's funding similar research, at least somewhere

00:20:04.060 nearby? And hold on, it seems to me, we know that Fauci lied to us about the masks and the social

00:20:09.140 distancing and the efficacy of the vaccines and the safety of the vaccines. So it seems to me,

00:20:14.420 it's not a crazy leap to suggest he's lying about this to Tulsi now giving us proof on her way out

00:20:20.220 of office. Why does this matter? Practically speaking for Dr. Fauci, it doesn't matter.

00:20:25.920 And that's very frustrating. We can't actually prosecute him right now. He's past his window.

00:20:32.720 It would be basically impossible to hold Fauci personally to account for his actions.

00:20:39.360 We know that window passed months ago. So why is it important to focus on this?

00:20:44.420 because this is the Libs MO, and this is how they accumulate power.

00:20:50.220 They do bad things or make bad predictions to justify they're doing bad things in the future.

00:20:57.760 And then we come out and we say, hey, that's not true. Hey, you acted wrongly here. Hey,

00:21:02.560 your prediction's false. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. And then the entire institution of the liberal

00:21:08.420 order. The academy and the scientists and the media and the politicians, they all come down,

00:21:15.060 they say, that's not true. You're lying. You're stupid. You're a danger. You're a threat to

00:21:20.600 democracy. We're going to censor you. We're going to kick you off social media. We're going to 0.94

00:21:23.480 suppress your show. We're going to prosecute you in some cases. That isn't true, isn't true,

00:21:27.900 isn't true. And then six years later, we're proven right. Or 10 years later or 20 years

00:21:33.540 later in some cases were proven right. But by that time, the left has already moved on to the

00:21:38.740 next hoax. So we need to establish this firmly here. Send it to your friends. Make it very clear.

00:21:46.200 Fauci lied about basically everything. Fauci was directly personally involved in the research

00:21:53.460 that started COVID at the place where COVID started using your taxpayer dollars. He lied

00:22:00.640 about it to Congress. The entire liberal apparatus lied about it to you. He conspired

00:22:07.180 with the intelligence community, according to the director of national intelligence.

00:22:11.960 It was all fake. It was all a lie. And you were punished so that these bad people could cover up

00:22:18.760 for their bad actions that screwed up your life and made your parents die alone in a hospital

00:22:24.820 and stopped your kid from having prom and high school graduation and an education that delayed

00:22:29.640 people getting married, that messed up the economy, that screwed up your career, and on and

00:22:34.040 on and on for years. That's what happened. And there is no ambiguity. There is no questioning

00:22:40.700 about it. It's not just a podcast host making a series. It's the DNI. It's the Director of

00:22:46.740 National Intelligence saying all of that happened. And you are right to be angry about that.

00:22:52.640 And the question you should be asking is, what are they doing now?

00:22:58.000 What is the version of that now?

00:23:00.340 It's not just Fauci.

00:23:01.700 It's been six years since COVID, six years since the year of our Floyd.

00:23:06.140 It's been 20 years since Al Gore released his Academy Award-winning PowerPoint presentation,

00:23:11.900 An Inconvenient Truth.

00:23:13.380 ABC News is celebrating this.

00:23:16.400 They say the scientists have been right about climate change all along,

00:23:20.600 Says former Vice President Al Gore on the 20th anniversary of the release of An Inconvenient Truth, the Oscar-winning documentary about Gore's campaign to educate people about climate change.

00:23:29.920 A big picture of Al Gore, scientists were dead right.

00:23:33.220 Okay, okay.

00:23:35.160 There is a great, great essay out by Bjorn Lomborg, who is the former director of the Danish government's Environmental Assessment Institute in Copenhagen,

00:23:43.820 pointing out that the core narrative of the film, of An Inconvenient Truth, 20 years ago,

00:23:51.060 was that climate change is driving ever-worsening disasters such as floods,

00:23:55.360 droughts, storms, and wildfires. Mr. Lomberg points out, over the past century,

00:24:03.100 even as the global population quadrupled, deaths from climate-related disasters plummeted.

00:24:09.420 they have declined by over 97%. It's not that they went up, even as the global population

00:24:16.280 massively increased. They declined almost entirely. How about on the hurricanes?

00:24:23.720 Al Gore's movie said hurricanes were going to become more frequent and stronger. According

00:24:28.160 to global data, there has actually been a decline in hurricane frequency and their total energy,

00:24:33.840 their total strength, since comprehensive satellite data began in 1980. How about the

00:24:40.240 wildfires? We were told the wildfires were going to get so much worse. Globally, annual burned area

00:24:47.000 from wildfires has declined, not increased, declined by more than 25% over the last quarter 0.99

00:24:56.200 century, over almost exactly the period since Al Gore made his stupid predictions. 0.98

00:25:00.440 Well, we know the image from Inconvenient Truth. 0.99

00:25:02.800 One of the most heartbreaking predictions that Al Gore makes is the polar bear.

00:25:06.800 The poor polar bear is going to disappear because of the melting of Arctic ice.

00:25:14.520 Polar bear populations in 1960 were about 12,000.

00:25:19.600 There were over 26,000 today.

00:25:22.040 Not only has the population not disappeared, it's more than doubled.

00:25:26.160 Hey, you know what?

00:25:27.660 Al Gore's got one last defense.

00:25:29.320 what he's going to say is, I know what he's going to say. He's going to say, well, the reason

00:25:32.920 that my predictions didn't come true. Well, actually what he's going to say is he's just

00:25:37.600 going to lie about it. But if he had to answer for all of those facts, what he would say if I

00:25:42.560 were him is he would say, well, the reason that those predictions haven't come true is because

00:25:48.460 we've done so much to reduce the carbon emissions and burning fossil fuels and the effects of

00:25:54.540 climate change. And that is why, because of my movie, I Saved the World, I St. Al Gore.

00:25:59.760 That didn't happen either. In 2006, the world got 82.6% of its total energy, total energy,

00:26:06.080 not just electricity, from fossil fuels, according to the International Energy Agency.

00:26:11.120 Almost 20 years later, do you know what the number is? Do you know what percentage of our

00:26:14.520 total energy we get from fossil fuels? It was 82.6. Today, it's 81.1. It's a rounding error

00:26:22.740 of difference. It's exactly the same almost. And yet, none of the predictions came true.

00:26:29.440 The opposite of the predictions happened. And it wasn't just, you know, whoopsie-daisy,

00:26:33.780 ah, well, how well-intentioned Al Gore was. It was less acutely felt than the lockdowns during

00:26:40.140 COVID. But nevertheless, these people screwed up our lives because of their stupid lies about 1.00

00:26:45.280 global warming. These people messed up our lives, right down to taking away our light bulbs. They 1.00

00:26:50.320 took away our light bulb, the nice incandescent light bulbs. They took those away for the

00:26:54.240 poisonous mercury light bulbs and the ugly LED light bulbs. They messed that up. They hiked up

00:27:00.240 energy prices. They took your taxpayer dollars and subsidized a bunch of stupid vehicles in the 1.00

00:27:05.520 name of climate change. They hiked up your prices on a lot of things. They put up those ugly windmills, 1.00

00:27:11.720 which were just payoffs to their friends in different industries. They used the supposedly

00:27:17.640 existential threat of global warming to clamp down, steal more power in the government to

00:27:21.580 regulate your lives more. They did that. And it was all fake. It was all a lie.

00:27:27.980 It's not that the weather doesn't change. It's not that there aren't even macro trends over

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00:29:47.560 The big takeaway from COVID,

00:29:50.360 from the global warming stuff,

00:29:52.880 the big takeaway

00:29:53.660 is that the ordinary people were right

00:29:57.020 and the elites who sneered

00:29:59.280 and condescended were wrong

00:30:00.920 and really lied in many cases.

00:30:04.760 That's the,

00:30:05.460 ordinary people knew

00:30:06.520 that the sun monster

00:30:07.220 wasn't going to kill us all in 10 years. Ordinary people knew that. Al Gore's friends,

00:30:11.760 eating caviar and sipping on Chablis, they did not know that, or they pretended not to know that.

00:30:18.000 But the ordinary people knew that. And the ordinary people were called stupid, uneducated, 0.99

00:30:22.940 rubes, bitter clingers. Same goes for COVID. Ordinary people knew that hankies and six feet 1.00

00:30:28.700 of distance don't prevent you from contracting a virus. Fauci lied and said they do. Ordinary

00:30:34.260 people knew that our funding, Fauci's funding, of places like the Wuhan Institute of Virology 0.97

00:30:39.620 were more likely the origins of the virus than a bad batch of bat soup at the Wuhan wet market. 0.97

00:30:44.380 Ordinary people knew that. The sneering liberal elites told us that was a lie, and they silenced

00:30:47.880 us when we said that. And the ordinary people were right. So, on the wisdom of the ordinary

00:30:52.140 people, really good question from Ross Douthat, who's the conservative at the New York Times,

00:30:57.840 interviewing the vice president on the tone of Trumpism. Listen to J.D.'s answer.

00:31:01.920 and then you know let's let's be honest the tone of the administration is not consistently a

00:31:12.060 christian tone there is a tone of aggressive uncharity to people who aren't on board with

00:31:18.300 the administration's policies so i would i would describe those as three areas where the

00:31:22.980 administration has felt functionally post-christian to me and i'm curious what you think well so so

00:31:31.460 So on the first point, well, sorry, the third point, I want to address first.

00:31:37.680 You can work backward.

00:31:38.740 Sometimes people are going to say jokes that are taken out of context.

00:31:42.260 Sometimes people are going to make mistakes.

00:31:44.100 I'm not saying I make mistakes.

00:31:45.600 I talk about this in the book a little.

00:31:46.960 In my book, Communion, available where books are sold, I talk about the own mistakes that

00:31:52.140 I've made as a Christian leader in America.

00:31:54.240 Yes, no, there is an apology.

00:31:56.720 My point is that the tone argument is in some ways, I think, people see what they want to see. And I also think that tonal arguments are ways of, frankly, policing working class ways of communication and covering them in elite preferences.

00:32:15.040 like there is the killer line and there's where you see the vice president is very good you may

00:32:21.620 have noticed i certainly noticed at speaking in plain terms to normal people who don't spend their

00:32:27.500 lives thinking about public policy and political philosophy but you see that the keen appreciation

00:32:36.000 of political philosophy and ideological movements you see it come out sometimes and that's that's

00:32:40.560 a line of that. J.D. says, this tone policing, sorry, these tonal arguments are a way of policing

00:32:51.080 the communication of working class Americans. And curiously, some of the more establishment

00:32:59.200 right-wingers have a problem with what J.D. is saying here. They say, well, you sound like those

00:33:04.160 woke people who talk about tone policing black people or Hispanic people or the LGBT community.

00:33:09.040 this idea of tone policing, you're adopting a left-wing framework here. And to that, I would

00:33:15.380 say, hold on, J.D. didn't bring up the question. The question came from Ross Douthat at the New

00:33:21.240 York Times, and it was a good question. Douthat is saying, should you guys, should you in the

00:33:28.120 Trump administration adopt a nicer tone? It seems at least more Christian. And J.D.'s answer is, 0.98

00:33:35.620 And yeah, when people are making those tonal arguments, it's because you don't like what

00:33:41.120 ordinary people, look, nobody's ordinary in the sense that every person is an individual.

00:33:45.260 God makes every person personally, and God has a role for each of us in his providence.

00:33:51.500 So in that way, there's no ordinary people.

00:33:53.120 But what we are calling ordinary people are often wiser and make better points than the

00:33:59.680 really sophisticated elites who never use that nasty tone.

00:34:02.840 I'll give you, here, let me bring it to earth.

00:34:03.940 Here's a clear example. 0.98

00:34:05.620 Fancy elites don't use the word retard. 0.79

00:34:08.520 They don't call people retards. 0.93

00:34:09.900 They don't say things are retarded. 1.00

00:34:12.940 Ordinary people, working class people, the hoi polloi, the unwashed masses that the institutional elites look down their noses on. 0.55

00:34:23.400 Ordinary people do use the word retard, and they call their friends retards, and they say that things are retarded. 0.99

00:34:28.080 and elite people justify, celebrate, write whole ideological manifestos 0.99

00:34:37.520 about how great it would be to murder all of the retarded people in the womb. 1.00

00:34:42.780 Have you noticed that? 1.00

00:34:43.400 They won't say retard, but they will openly advocate 1.00

00:34:46.380 and will actually commit a mass murder of retards. 1.00

00:34:53.020 Ordinary people will say, hey, buddy, you're retarded. 1.00

00:34:55.880 But you know what? 0.98

00:34:56.520 by and large, generally speaking, in my experience, talking to normal people, 0.99

00:35:00.520 they don't think that we should murder all of the retarded people in the womb. 0.99

00:35:03.840 How odd is that? In that case, tone and virtue are running in completely opposite directions. 1.00

00:35:10.340 The people who have the really nice Christian sounding tone are using that tone to mask 0.94

00:35:16.120 enormous evil. And the people who are a little rougher around the edges in the way they talk, 0.99

00:35:23.320 Those people are using blunt language, but they are not promoting enormous evil.

00:35:30.260 They are, by and large, promoting far greater virtue.

00:35:35.200 That is the key here.

00:35:36.340 That's what we're getting.

00:35:37.800 And this is true of the Trump administration.

00:35:40.140 Barack Obama, we've seen the Obamas on display again because they're opening their hideous library.

00:35:45.080 And the Obama administration is absolutely, was buttoned up on tone.

00:35:52.360 Barack Obama, he studied political rhetoric.

00:35:54.900 There's no red America.

00:35:55.860 There's no blue America.

00:35:57.440 You know, we're going to fundamentally transform this country.

00:35:59.880 Now, when he said, I want to fundamentally transform this country,

00:36:01.800 he didn't say, I hate all of you people, 1.00

00:36:03.240 and I hate this disgusting country, 1.00

00:36:04.660 and the founding fathers were evil, 0.99

00:36:06.040 and we're going to undo their project.

00:36:07.680 He didn't say that.

00:36:08.420 That would have been blunt.

00:36:09.800 That would have been a lower tone.

00:36:11.160 He had a high tone, but his project was really awful. 0.97

00:36:15.500 The Obama project of murdering a ton of babies, 0.68

00:36:18.980 throwing open our borders, 0.99

00:36:20.220 undermining the will of the American voter and his rights, mocking Christians as bitter clingers,

00:36:27.640 clinging to their guns and their Bibles, redefining marriage, all of these things. 0.99

00:36:34.280 Later on, going to promote the castration of little children. These are horribly evil. 0.97

00:36:39.280 And yeah, Trump, you know what? He kind of makes fun of people's faces sometimes. He kind of makes

00:36:42.480 fun of the way they look sometimes. But you know what? He's the first sitting president to show up

00:36:47.060 for the March for Life. You know what? He stopped the castration of kids. You know what? He closed

00:36:51.080 the border and all the face-tattooed gangsters and rapists and murderers who were coming across. 0.99

00:36:56.480 You know what? Sometimes virtue and tone run in the opposite direction.

00:37:01.940 And I think we can get some biblical wisdom here out of the gospel to point out that it's not

00:37:08.360 always the person who is saying the right things who's doing the will of the Father,

00:37:12.600 but it's more the person who is doing the right things. Okay, before we, I know we have to get

00:37:16.660 to mailbag. I know I'm running late. I can't head out though before I take on this super viral clip

00:37:22.480 also involving J.D. Vance, which is taking questions from the White House Press Corps in

00:37:27.140 the briefing room and getting a little harsh on the state of Israel. What I will say, and this

00:37:34.500 does bother me, is that you've seen people within Bibi's cabinet who have come out and attacked the

00:37:40.200 deal and in some ways very personally attacked the president of the United States. And I guess

00:37:45.560 my message to them would be twofold. Number one, Donald J. Trump is the only head of state in the

00:37:52.640 entire world who is sympathetic to the nation of Israel at this moment in time. And he happens to

00:37:59.440 be the head of state of the world's superpower. If I was in the cabinet of the Israeli government,

00:38:04.540 I might not be attacking the only powerful ally that I have anywhere left in the entire world.

00:38:11.120 There are a lot of people, there are a lot of people for whom support of Israel is the top

00:38:16.600 political issue or one of the top political issues who are furious at what the vice president is

00:38:21.960 saying. And yet, I have to ask them, and this is coming from someone who is broadly pro-Israel,

00:38:28.020 as you may have noticed. I have to ask those people, what did he say that wasn't true?

00:38:34.220 Show me the lie from J.D. Vance. J.D. Vance was given a little tough love here,

00:38:40.160 But show me the lie.

00:38:44.480 The state of Israel relies upon the United States for its military.

00:38:49.520 The state of Israel relies upon the United States for even its perceived legitimacy as a nation,

00:38:57.400 because so many in Europe, big factions in the United Kingdom even,

00:39:02.920 and certainly throughout the rest of the world don't even think the Israeli state is a legitimate

00:39:09.180 state. And many of them are trying to prosecute the government through the International Criminal

00:39:12.800 Court. And the United States is saying, whoa, whoa, whoa, that's not true. The state is legitimate

00:39:17.680 according to UN declarations, according to a war of conquest, according to the Balfour Declaration.

00:39:21.620 You can't do that. But the United States is providing the protection for the state of Israel.

00:39:25.680 And Trump is the most pro-Israel president probably we've ever had, so much so he has a

00:39:30.940 town named after him in Israel. And probably practically speaking, not the smartest move

00:39:36.980 for the pro-Israel side to come out attacking Trump like this over a peace deal, which even

00:39:42.760 Israeli officials are acknowledging is in the interests of the United States.

00:39:46.840 Probably not the smartest idea. I don't think it's good as a matter of justice,

00:39:50.800 but even just from the self-interest of the state of Israel, probably not the smartest idea.

00:39:55.620 You can be upset with the vice president for saying it, but can you point out any flaw in

00:39:59.000 reasoning? I can't really. It doesn't have to be this crazy divide you see in the media of Israel's

00:40:07.320 the worst state ever in the whole history of the world and yada, yada, yada, or Israel's the

00:40:11.000 greatest ally and our interests are always perfectly aligned. You can just have like a 0.85

00:40:13.880 normal view. You're allowed to have a normal view. And I think you should. And I think that's better

00:40:17.320 in the long run for everybody, which is why the US is signing this MOU. By the way, the White, 0.84

00:40:21.900 very curious. I didn't see anyone pick up on this, but the White House posted a picture of

00:40:26.560 President Trump signing the Memorandum of Understanding on the Iran War. Notice who's

00:40:30.360 in the memorandum. It says President Donald J. Trump signs the Iran Memorandum of Understanding

00:40:34.700 Peace Through String. It's Trump and Rubio. A lot of people right now are trying to pin the whole

00:40:43.540 MOU on J.D. Vance, which might actually redound his political benefit because I think most people

00:40:47.500 in America want to see the end of the war. But they're trying to, they're putting all their

00:40:51.240 criticism about the MOU on Vance because they don't want to attack Trump. They don't have the

00:40:55.620 guts to attack Trump. And what's ironic about it is many people are making the argument at the

00:41:00.940 start of the Iran war that the critics of the Iran war didn't have the guts to actually blame

00:41:06.120 Trump. They were trying to blame wicked advisors around him. Now that same crew is doing the same

00:41:11.320 thing with the end of the Iran war. And it was unclear. Is the White House trying to put JD out

00:41:17.400 to dry here? Are they trying to put it on JD? Trump joked about that. He said, if it works out,

00:41:21.240 I'll take the credit. If it doesn't work out, I'll put the blame on JD. But notice,

00:41:25.200 the White House here is making clear. No, no, no. This is not just the J.D. Vance thing. It's

00:41:29.120 not just a Jared Kushner thing. It's not just a Steve Wyckoff thing. This is a Trump thing.

00:41:33.860 Trump is signing this MOU. And by the way, I'm putting the other big figure in the administration

00:41:38.200 standing right behind me, Marco Rubio. You're not going to create a division here, Vance versus

00:41:43.080 Rubio, or Trump is out of the loop or whatever. No, no, no. You're only getting in the picture

00:41:49.100 Trump and Rubio signing the Iran MOU. A message clear as day. This administration is unified

00:41:58.560 on this policy. Buck stops with the president. Get on board. Very, very clever. Picture tells

00:42:06.240 a thousand words. Clever, clever picture. Okay. I know I'm running late. I know I'm running late.

00:42:10.120 I don't care though. Before we get to the mailbag, I have to get to this clip from Megan. Megan was

00:42:13.740 talking to Emily Jashinsky on Emily's show on Megan's network. And amid all of this

00:42:20.720 talk about the Iran war wrapping up and the midterms and J.D. Vance and Marco Rubio and

00:42:26.980 all this, Megan says the right needs to come back together. My ultimate feeling is

00:42:35.240 we need to come back together. I still see the left and not everybody on the left. My mom is

00:42:42.620 still a registered Democrat, but the left incorporated as the real enemy, the ones who

00:42:48.260 are celebrating the Charlie assassination. That's the real enemy. And the right is going to need to

00:42:55.280 come back together. We have to find our way back to each other. And there have been a lot of people

00:43:00.500 who are very, very neo-conny and pro-Israel and pro this war with whom I am in touch and with whom 0.64

00:43:08.040 my text regularly. And we've kind of quietly agreed to keep the porch light on for each other

00:43:14.360 because the right is going to have to come back together after this is over and before the next

00:43:20.180 elections or we're never going to win any more elections again. This very controversial statement

00:43:26.800 is obviously correct. She's obviously right. This is a very, very important point. And I've

00:43:36.740 talked about it constantly. This is a point that Charlie was extremely insistent upon and was very

00:43:44.320 good at actually doing something about because his greatest contribution to politics was keeping

00:43:49.340 that coalition together, including excluding really bad toxic elements, but keeping together

00:43:54.560 people who really, really hated each other. That is obviously the case. I talked about this yesterday

00:43:59.460 on the show. You cannot have a political coalition where the minute one part of the coalition doesn't

00:44:05.920 get its way, it takes the ball and goes home. And there are going to be all sorts of recriminations

00:44:10.020 and accusations on all sides. They're going to say, no, it was the opponents of the Iran war

00:44:14.520 who broke up the coalition. And then the opponents of the Iran war are going to say,

00:44:17.900 no, it was the proponents of the Iran war that broke up the coalition. And you wouldn't take

00:44:22.600 us back. And you wouldn't take us back. And you were mean. And you said this nasty thing to me.

00:44:25.900 And what did Vance say the other day? I thought this was so good. He said, look, it is just a

00:44:31.020 fact, the coalition that Donald Trump, that elected Donald Trump, includes people like Joe

00:44:37.100 Rogan and Tucker Carlson, and also Mark Levin and even like John Podhoretz. And those guys might

00:44:44.360 all hate each other. Those guys might, the people who are attracted to those shows might all sort of

00:44:49.800 hate each other. That's just an historical fact. And the American right has always included all

00:44:54.620 these little factions, the neocons and the paleocons and the libertarians and the traditionalists and

00:44:57.900 We're just writing all these groups that don't even agree together on that much.

00:45:00.520 But the question you have to ask yourself is, is the chief threat to what you want in your actual practical politics, is that chief threat Mark Levin or Megyn Kelly?

00:45:15.400 or is the chief threat the left, which openly calls for your murder and your censorship

00:45:23.580 and your suppression, and which celebrates the murder of prominent centrist, moderate,

00:45:30.540 gracious conservatives like Charlie? What's the real threat? You don't have to like Mark Levin.

00:45:37.080 You don't have to like Megyn Kelly for that matter. But when we're talking about real politics,

00:45:41.680 if the right is to be a real force that wins over voters,

00:45:46.840 that maintains or reestablishes a similar version to the Trump coalition

00:45:50.200 that even won the popular vote.

00:45:51.740 It's going to include people that you really, really don't like

00:45:55.260 and that you disagree on vehemently on certain issues.

00:45:58.800 Are you willing to do that?

00:46:00.740 Are the various factions willing to do that?

00:46:02.280 That's what Megan's asking.

00:46:03.360 But you can't attack the point that she's making.

00:46:05.540 The point that she's making is the right will either

00:46:08.000 comprise lots of groups that kind of dislike each other and disagree on major issues.

00:46:13.080 Or there will not be a right that is a potent force. 0.93

00:46:15.980 There will be some loser fake rump right. 0.93

00:46:18.200 There will be some loser group that plays the junior partner in the political projects 0.97

00:46:22.720 that the Democrats always win. 0.97

00:46:23.900 And our whole job is to just legitimize the liberal establishment and be good little losers. 0.96

00:46:28.540 We can argue that.

00:46:29.400 Or we can do the thing that Trump did and that he's trying to maintain,

00:46:32.800 which is pull in lots of different people and actually win and actually do something.

00:46:36.940 and with a group that is so intellectually diverse as ours is, that's going to irritate

00:46:41.560 different parts of the coalition. What are we going to do? Are we going to stay together? 0.82

00:46:46.440 Are we going to have a legitimate, forceful, powerful right wing? I hope so. That's what I'm

00:46:52.240 after. I hope so. Okay, it's time for the mailbag. My favorite comment yesterday comes from Spotify.

00:46:57.340 You know, I get comments on YouTube and on Spotify. Well, the comments on Spotify are very,

00:47:02.320 very good and this is from child of god who says who do y'all like better matt walsh or michael

00:47:07.760 knowles answer answer very carefully whether you're on youtube or spotify the way that you

00:47:14.560 all answer will almost certainly determine whether or not i keep picking comments from spotify or if

00:47:19.280 i go back to youtube answer be very careful in your answer finally finally we've arrived

00:47:23.080 my favorite time of the week when i get to hear from you in the mailbag the mailbag is sponsored

00:47:26.720 by pure talk at pure talk.com slash knolls to make the switch today hi michael this is megan

00:47:33.580 from the creme de la creme coming to you with another dating question i recently went on a date

00:47:38.820 with a guy and i mentioned the michael knolls show and he had never heard of it and so i sent him a

00:47:45.160 link to the show that had my last voicemail bag and then he ghosted me so my question is

00:47:52.460 how early should I bring up the Michael Knowles show?

00:47:56.400 And if the guy has not heard of the Michael Knowles show,

00:48:00.140 do I just leave right then or do I ghost him after the date?

00:48:04.640 Oh, good point.

00:48:05.760 I like that idea that you bring up at the end.

00:48:08.260 You should ghost him.

00:48:10.200 Well, no, you shouldn't ghost him if he's never heard of the Michael Knowles.

00:48:12.940 That's okay.

00:48:13.660 It's okay not to have heard of it.

00:48:16.340 Actually, apparently it was difficult for some people to get the episode of the show

00:48:19.880 the other day on one of the platforms.

00:48:21.220 and you know the show was heavily suppressed during COVID.

00:48:24.400 We were talking about Fauci earlier.

00:48:25.440 So I'll give a little grace on that if you never heard of it.

00:48:28.680 But you want to find a way to ghost him and punish him

00:48:32.020 if he's heard of it and doesn't like it.

00:48:36.160 You know, if he listens to an episode, you say,

00:48:38.160 well, you've never heard of it.

00:48:39.000 He sounds like some kind of normie, kind of lib guy.

00:48:41.480 You send him an episode and he immediately says,

00:48:43.620 this woman, I can't, this woman is too smart for me or something.

00:48:49.240 He was too scandalized by it.

00:48:51.220 I would say the ideal time to bring up the Michael Knowles show and your role as a member of the

00:48:58.360 creme de la creme is into the date right after the appetizer has been served. So you're right

00:49:05.700 at the beginning, but you're kind of pot committed. You're already paying for food.

00:49:08.860 You bring it up and you can either delight together in your shared enjoyment of the truth,

00:49:14.720 or you can watch him squirm the whole time

00:49:18.580 and you can mock him for being a squishy lib. 0.99

00:49:23.880 Can I, cock, can I say, I don't know. 0.99

00:49:25.680 It was some kind of just, you know, like a, 0.98

00:49:28.580 you'll enjoy that.

00:49:29.660 Okay, next question.

00:49:31.600 Hey, Michael, long time listener, first time caller.

00:49:34.460 My question is about my brother.

00:49:36.440 Him and his boyfriend are coming to visit from Los Angeles.

00:49:40.860 Now I live in upstate New York,

00:49:42.480 so I don't actually see him that often.

00:49:44.040 And as a matter of fact, I don't actually speak to him that often either.

00:49:48.320 My wife and I are practicing Catholics.

00:49:50.280 We go to a traditional Latin mass every Sunday.

00:49:52.320 We have an almost two-year-old daughter.

00:49:53.940 It's basically the most important thing in our lives.

00:49:57.000 My question is about how to navigate this visit.

00:50:00.220 I want to be charitable.

00:50:01.520 I want to be friendly.

00:50:03.220 But I also don't want to condone or celebrate the sin.

00:50:08.240 And my question is, how do I navigate this family dynamic that I have going on?

00:50:12.940 well you could navigate your brother and his boyfriend up the stairs and then just you know

00:50:18.160 chuck them off the roof or something no i'm joking i'm joking i'm joking don't do that do not

00:50:22.360 no chucking your brother and his boyfriend off the roof do not i don't think you were tempted

00:50:26.940 to do that anyway uh but but you it's a jokes aside it's a real issue largely because of the

00:50:33.220 kids because you don't want to you don't want to scandalize a kid and you don't want to introduce

00:50:37.600 an issue that they're too young to process. So what do you do about that? Well, some would say,

00:50:43.480 well, sorry, your brother can't come or he's got to leave the boyfriend at home or whatever. Okay,

00:50:46.980 that's one way of dealing with it. Family is very important though. And I don't think you want to

00:50:51.140 disown your brother or anything like that. So it seems to me, taking a broader historical

00:50:55.780 perspective, before the sexual revolution and all the lavender rights movements and all that,

00:51:02.120 there were always people who were a little bit off, a little bit different, had different views

00:51:06.980 and aberrant and deviant views.

00:51:08.920 There were funny uncles throughout all of history,

00:51:11.720 you know, confirmed bachelors, let's say.

00:51:13.980 And so I guess the ground rules to establish would be,

00:51:18.600 this was so much easier when people were just a little more close

00:51:21.440 to the vest about these things,

00:51:22.600 but the ground rules to establish would be, you know,

00:51:25.140 you want to see your brother, you want to,

00:51:27.000 he's bringing his buddy over, okay, that's one thing.

00:51:29.380 But they got to be cool about it.

00:51:31.980 You know, they can't be, you know,

00:51:35.220 there's no kissing at the dinner table.

00:51:36.980 And so if your brother is willing to be restrained about his relationship and the way he's living his life, if he's willing to be restrained and tactful about it, that's one thing.

00:51:51.180 And therefore, you are being accommodating of him as well. 0.90

00:51:55.260 But it's a very dynamic situation because if he's going to walk in wearing the rainbow flag, singing the village people or something, then you're probably not going to be able to tolerate that. 0.63

00:52:05.220 It's really about how moderate and subtle he can be about it. 0.93

00:52:11.800 That's how this issue was handled for all of history.

00:52:14.620 Going back, there were plays written about this in the Renaissance.

00:52:17.300 So I think you don't need to take a firm ideological position or something.

00:52:23.720 You just have to make sure that he's not being ideological about it either.

00:52:27.080 Okay, next question.

00:52:28.900 Hi, Michael.

00:52:29.680 My name is Lisa.

00:52:30.580 I've been a really big fan of your show for a long time.

00:52:32.880 And first of all, unrelated to my questions is I wanted to say that Matt is totally wrong

00:52:37.820 about the aliens.

00:52:38.780 You are definitely more on the right track.

00:52:40.660 You're right about that, yeah. 0.69

00:52:41.640 Okay, so my questions are, first of all, is abortion murder?

00:52:45.120 And secondly, should our laws reflect blanket immunity for the mothers who abort their babies?

00:52:53.100 Now, these are kind of loaded questions, but kind of not because after Roe v. Wade, of

00:52:58.140 course, all of this decision-making on the laws goes back to the states.

00:53:02.880 And so I've been working with my rosy red state of Missouri, and I'm finding out that

00:53:08.540 at least the pro-life leaders in my own state are not willing to even call abortion murder

00:53:14.620 anymore.

00:53:15.520 And they have also signed in writing and in testimony saying that they will not pursue

00:53:23.200 criminalizing women who abort their babies under any circumstances.

00:53:27.840 So that's a little bit of context.

00:53:30.440 Is abortion murder?

00:53:31.320 and should our laws reflect blanket immunity for all women who have abortions thank you

00:53:38.280 keep doing your great work great question great questions the first answer is yes abortion is

00:53:44.400 murder obviously and the second question is uh the answer is yeah probably but not for the

00:53:54.640 reasons they think should our laws offer immunity to women who kill their kids

00:53:59.440 as you say the pro-life leaders in your state the pro-life leaders no less

00:54:03.760 say they will not pursue prosecuting women who kill their babies through abortion

00:54:09.300 and so should they be allowed to do that or should we punish the women and put them in jail for life

00:54:13.540 or something uh and and the answer as far as i see it is yeah we probably should not prosecute

00:54:20.120 women for having abortions probably it's certain right now probably uh but not for the reasons

00:54:25.660 they think, not because women haven't committed a crime by killing their kids or committed a

00:54:31.140 gravely immoral act, but just because, practically speaking, it's going to be harder to get pro-life 0.99

00:54:36.320 laws passed. It's going to be harder to protect babies if you threaten women with prosecution

00:54:40.080 for having abortions. And two, as a matter of mercy, a lot of women have been propagandized 0.99

00:54:47.400 for their whole lives to be told that abortion is not really murder, and it's just a clump of

00:54:52.400 cells and it's ethically meaningless. And so that, you know, as St. Thomas points out in the

00:54:57.320 Summa Theologiae, people are at different degrees of virtue in society. And if your laws are too

00:55:02.180 stringent, you can actually make the situation worse by sort of cracking people beyond their

00:55:06.000 limits. So just as a practical matter, you are not going to protect as many babies if you prosecute

00:55:11.940 women for having abortions. But we don't want to argue past reason here. You know, the reason not

00:55:17.300 to prosecute women for killing their kids is because in some cases they're ignorant. In some 1.00

00:55:22.100 cases, they're pressured into it. And because it will have a negative political effect and

00:55:28.640 politics is a practical art. So that's why. It's a matter of mercy and prudence. It's not a matter

00:55:34.040 of justice. And in the course of justice, people who kill their kids would all be punished for it.

00:55:38.960 But in the matter of mercy and prudence and actually having a better effect,

00:55:44.500 maybe they wouldn't be. But that's an indulgence. That's not a matter of justice.

00:55:49.120 Okay. I know I'm running late. I don't care. Last question.

00:55:52.100 Hey, Michael, this is Jordan from the Republic of Texas, and I think it's time that you need to stop supporting your gay little team up in New York and embrace the only true faith and family anti-pride team in the Texas Rangers, the 2023 world champion Texas Rangers, who have won a World Series more recently than the New York Yankees. 0.93

00:56:15.080 So we're going to welcome you with open arms. See you there, Michael. 0.92

00:56:18.560 yeah thanks thanks for that question i didn't end up getting to the yankee pride story

00:56:23.860 the yankees are promoting stonewall in now the yankees are not only posting some gay stuff to 0.91

00:56:31.080 twitter they're promoting stonewall in which was this filthy mafia run bar and sex club that was 0.99

00:56:37.860 best known for assaulting police officers and spreading hepatitis and they're promoting this

00:56:42.000 as though it were some great thing for pride months so i didn't cover that story and i don't

00:56:46.460 intend to because i'm not a lib i'm not going to go i can't just like root for some team that i

00:56:51.100 in a state that i don't have a personal connection to and the yankees are the winningest sports

00:56:56.300 franchise greatest and very conservative relatively sports franchise in history and

00:57:00.940 they're so i'm not i can't give up on them i just have to hope that the end of june comes soon okay

00:57:08.700 the rest of the show continues now it's fake headline friday you do not want to miss it become

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