The Michael Knowles Show - Yes or No ｜ Lauren Southern

00:00:00.000 A gay duck. 1.00

00:00:03.100 And to be a gay duck in the United Arab Emirates. 1.00

00:00:06.080 Lauren, please don't downplay that. 0.98

00:00:21.460 Welcome to another episode of Yes or No.

00:00:24.600 This is a very special episode

00:00:26.480 because this is the first episode

00:00:28.360 that we've ever had a girl on.

00:00:31.800 This would be my friend Lauren Southern.

00:00:33.960 Lauren, the filmmaker behind American Mirage,

00:00:36.880 coming out soon.

00:00:37.540 Lots of other great projects.

00:00:39.520 Lauren, only recently welcomed back into America.

00:00:42.020 I think previously you were barred from this country.

00:00:44.560 I was, but first I have some horrendous news for you.

00:00:47.320 Okay.

00:00:47.800 I'm legally a man in Canada.

00:00:49.560 Did you just call me a woman?

00:00:50.620 I'm legally a man.

00:00:52.760 Are you?

00:00:53.760 Oh, yes.

00:00:54.820 Okay, this is good.

00:00:56.340 No, I'm so glad that you reminded me of this

00:00:58.120 because I felt, look, I'm a married man, okay?

00:01:02.280 I generally follow the Mike Pence rule.

00:01:04.780 I try not to go drinking with ladies. 1.00

00:01:06.840 I just, it's not a good look.

00:01:09.000 Okay, men and women are different.

00:01:10.560 But I am so pleased to be reminded

00:01:12.360 that you are, in fact, a man.

00:01:13.940 And drinking, it's a man's game, you know? 1.00

00:01:16.240 Down to the pub, have some cigars.

00:01:17.940 This is for us men only.

00:01:19.200 You're right.

00:01:19.680 Just for us fellas.

00:01:20.760 Are you ready for the game?

00:01:22.940 I think so.

00:01:23.640 Okay.

00:01:23.880 I guess so, yes.

00:01:24.780 Well, because I forgot you were a man,

00:01:28.820 I prepared for ladies to go first. 1.00

00:01:33.680 Lauren, Australia is somehow even worse than Canada.

00:01:39.740 All right.

00:01:40.160 No, I'm afraid you got that wrong.

00:01:46.260 What?

00:01:46.940 Yeah.

00:01:48.080 Yeah, Australia is not worse than Canada.

00:01:50.820 Because Australia is a prison colony, 0.75

00:01:54.400 it's full of really tough, wild old guys, 0.76

00:01:58.200 crocodile Dundee, that sort of thing.

00:02:00.220 They've got a much funnier accent.

00:02:02.120 Okay, well, you got yours right.

00:02:04.140 I did, good.

00:02:04.800 Okay, cheers.

00:02:05.380 Of course, I will just drink whenever during the game.

00:02:08.380 That's really the way to play.

00:02:10.720 I also think often about how it's hard

00:02:13.040 being a conservative in this world right now

00:02:16.200 and wanting to promote, you know,

00:02:18.200 staying away from the vices.

00:02:19.980 Yum.

00:02:20.540 How are you supposed to not be an alcoholic?

00:02:22.880 Well, things are the state they are.

00:02:24.560 That's true.

00:02:25.160 And listen, everything in moderation.

00:02:26.880 I mean, it's almost noontime around.

00:02:29.200 It's almost lunchtime.

00:02:30.000 It's five o'clock somewhere right now.

00:02:31.660 Too true.

00:02:32.260 Too true.

00:02:32.360 Okay, so now I read one.

00:02:35.380 Brunettes are taken more seriously 1.00

00:02:38.220 and are more trustworthy than blondes. 0.64

00:02:41.720 How would you answer that?

00:02:44.440 Hmm.

00:02:46.340 Oh, I've mixed things up here.

00:02:48.620 You did.

00:02:50.000 I'm generally unobservant,

00:02:51.700 so I hadn't noticed until now you've changed.

00:02:54.120 Not only your sex, but your hair color.

00:02:55.740 You got it right.

00:03:06.120 You got it right, too.

00:03:07.260 I know.

00:03:07.580 So neither of us drink?

00:03:08.440 It's so obvious.

00:03:09.140 Can I drink anyway?

00:03:10.020 Of course.

00:03:10.440 Wonderful.

00:03:10.740 I like this game.

00:03:12.720 We won.

00:03:13.080 Why wouldn't we drink?

00:03:15.420 You have to drink when you lose,

00:03:17.180 and you get to drink when you win.

00:03:19.000 That's...

00:03:19.440 Wonderful.

00:03:20.160 The right attitude.

00:03:20.740 It is more likely that Justin Trudeau

00:03:26.700 is the son of Fidel Castro

00:03:28.360 than Joe Biden won a fair election in 2020.

00:03:32.940 This is going to require some very high-level logic.

00:03:35.540 Seriously, it's more likely...

00:03:37.580 That Justin Trudeau is the son of Fidel Castro

00:03:41.300 than Joe Biden won a fair election.

00:03:43.600 Okay.

00:03:50.120 Depends.

00:03:50.820 Okay.

00:03:52.700 Of course.

00:03:56.720 And I'll say for the record,

00:03:57.560 I actually don't think that Justin is Fidel Castro's son.

00:04:01.840 I know that his mother was an eccentric character.

00:04:05.440 I know that they were friends with the Castros.

00:04:07.620 I know that Justin Trudeau looks exactly like Fidel Castro.

00:04:11.980 Intellectually, spiritually, and physically.

00:04:13.680 I know that.

00:04:14.860 But, but, I actually see a little bit of his father in him.

00:04:18.480 Yeah, it's a toss-up.

00:04:19.740 It's a fun meme, though.

00:04:21.160 I appreciate it.

00:04:22.120 I respect the people who are spreading misinformation on the Internet.

00:04:27.400 And by the way, at the very least...

00:04:28.440 You've got to fight misinformation with misinformation.

00:04:30.940 Of course.

00:04:31.560 No, you do.

00:04:32.120 And you can pretty much do anything for a meme.

00:04:35.180 But certainly we can say it is much more likely

00:04:37.880 that Fidel Castro is the father of Justin

00:04:41.240 than that Joe Biden won a fair election. 0.99

00:04:44.180 They rigged the whole damn thing. 0.98

00:04:46.000 They said, the big tech oligarchs said 0.99

00:04:48.480 you couldn't spread true information about Biden corruption.

00:04:51.040 They changed all the rules in the weeks before the election.

00:04:53.600 They violated the state constitution in Pennsylvania.

00:04:55.620 Yeah, this is what I find interesting.

00:04:59.600 To me, it doesn't have to be anything to do with the ballots.

00:05:02.600 Just the state of the media.

00:05:04.480 I saw leftists jumping up and down about Viktor Orban's win in Hungary.

00:05:08.780 And they were like, Lauren, this was...

00:05:09.640 The awful, awful, autocratic... 0.99

00:05:11.500 Yeah, that horrible, horrible man. 0.99

00:05:13.500 Of Europe, yeah. 0.91

00:05:14.020 They said this is an unfair election, Lauren,

00:05:16.560 because they banned media companies that were opposed to Viktor.

00:05:21.220 They banned all of these NGOs and everything.

00:05:24.280 And I'm like, so what is it in America

00:05:26.880 when all these right-wing outlets get censored?

00:05:29.400 Was that an unfair election then?

00:05:30.920 All right, if that's the rule, fine.

00:05:32.720 Right, right.

00:05:33.340 I loved one time Viktor Orban was accused of all the same stuff

00:05:37.840 that anyone to the right of Hillary Clinton gets accused of. 0.89

00:05:40.220 You know, you're a racist, anti-Semitic, this, that, 0.97

00:05:42.960 and the other thing. 0.98

00:05:43.440 He goes, why do you say I'm anti-Semitic?

00:05:46.300 They said, well, because you've criticized George Soros.

00:05:49.080 So, well, if that qualifies you as anti-Semitic...

00:05:51.180 And he said it very plainly.

00:05:52.560 He said, George Soros is a Hungarian

00:05:55.160 and a major political rival of mine

00:05:57.820 who spends a lot of money trying to remove me from power.

00:06:00.600 I think I get to criticize him.

00:06:01.920 I think I get to push back a little.

00:06:03.180 I think the most anti-Semitic thing you can possibly say

00:06:06.260 is that George Soros represents all Jews.

00:06:10.980 I've never heard Jew hatred any worse than suggesting that. 0.89

00:06:15.380 Yeah.

00:06:16.000 Good point.

00:06:16.900 Should we drink?

00:06:17.860 Oh, yeah, again, wonderful.

00:06:19.220 Love that.

00:06:20.120 Should have asked for a double.

00:06:22.400 Homosexuality is more nature than nurture. 1.00

00:06:26.180 Hmm.

00:06:27.020 Ooh.

00:06:28.860 Ooh.

00:06:29.780 Hmm.

00:06:32.080 Hmm.

00:06:32.680 Oh.

00:06:33.180 You were right.

00:06:46.440 You were wrong.

00:06:47.340 I was wrong.

00:06:48.000 You say it's...

00:06:49.060 Homosexuality is more nature than nurture. 1.00

00:06:53.140 Yeah.

00:06:53.920 I don't know.

00:06:54.640 I think that there's... 0.75

00:06:56.180 I find it difficult to think you could indoctrinate a man out of wanting sex with a woman. 0.93

00:07:08.180 What if you put him in prison?

00:07:10.020 Yeah, that's environmental for sure.

00:07:12.020 But you're saying he would still probably prefer the woman.

00:07:14.200 Yes.

00:07:15.060 Yeah.

00:07:15.400 So that there are men that in a free environment where they could sleep with women choose to sleep 0.97

00:07:20.020 with men instead.

00:07:21.680 I find that very interesting.

00:07:23.200 I think it's also like a sex drive thing. 0.99

00:07:26.080 Like men, and gay men in particular, tend to have like very, very high sex drives. 0.99

00:07:30.720 And they're just like, you know what? 0.97

00:07:32.080 Women aren't going to keep up. 1.00

00:07:34.040 Forget about it.

00:07:35.060 That is true.

00:07:35.620 I do remember in my teenage years, I would sometimes friends would say, ah, if only I

00:07:40.400 had been made a gay man, I would be so much happier, you know, I would have all of my desires

00:07:44.580 fulfilled.

00:07:45.300 The reason I say no...

00:07:46.900 Yeah.

00:07:47.520 ...and that you correctly guessed my answer is not because I think that people aren't born

00:07:52.400 with a certain attraction or desire or anything like that.

00:07:55.920 But, you know, sometimes people will argue that there's no way that there's any biological

00:08:00.880 or genetic or early infant basis for sexual attraction.

00:08:05.360 I think, well, that's crazy.

00:08:06.520 Why not?

00:08:07.080 And they'll say, because God doesn't make mistakes.

00:08:09.340 Well, I think, you know, people are born with six fingers.

00:08:11.440 I don't know.

00:08:11.720 People are born with all sorts of...

00:08:13.300 This is a fallen world.

00:08:14.380 There are all sorts of peculiarities and eccentricities.

00:08:16.480 But the reason I say that homosexuality is more nurture, really, I would say, I guess it's 0.99

00:08:21.680 more culture, is that there's a difference between having a sexual desire and indulging

00:08:27.900 that sexual desire or creating a sexual identity based on that desire.

00:08:31.480 I mean, the very idea of homosexuality is very modern, not because some guys didn't want

00:08:37.420 to shtup other guys in the past, but just the idea that that was a sexual identity.

00:08:41.260 Look back at the ancient Greeks.

00:08:42.380 They were all shtuping each other, but they didn't view themselves as Liberace or something

00:08:46.200 like that.

00:08:46.900 There seems to be a huge amount of culture here.

00:08:49.700 The idea that, what is it now, more than, greater than one in five Gen Z youth identify

00:08:56.260 as LGBT, up from historically about 1%.

00:09:00.080 Either Alex Jones is right, and there's something in the water, or, and he actually was right

00:09:07.120 about the water with the frogs, but in addition to that, you might say, that there's some cultural

00:09:12.580 phenomenon going on here.

00:09:14.620 I agree with that.

00:09:15.560 When it comes to, especially the, like, 72 different genders and pronouns stuff, I think

00:09:20.860 that is absolutely nurture.

00:09:22.780 But when it comes to, like, the actual, like, sexual stuff that we've seen.

00:09:26.440 The desire.

00:09:27.120 It's the dawn of time, you know.

00:09:29.060 That, to me, there is a nature aspect.

00:09:31.500 But it's a really good point, because you can take it outside of sex, too.

00:09:34.540 I mean, what you're describing is that people have a kind of lower will.

00:09:38.560 They have an appetite, whether it's a natural desire or a desire that has been inculcated

00:09:44.060 into us.

00:09:44.600 We have these things.

00:09:45.600 But then we have a rational will, and we can say, well, I actually don't want to do this.

00:09:48.780 You know, I don't want to have the 10th beer.

00:09:50.860 I mean, I do.

00:09:51.760 But I don't want to have 20 more cookies.

00:09:54.920 I'm going to get a stomachache, right?

00:09:56.040 You have that higher will, and that's why you can say the things I want to do, I don't

00:09:59.500 do, and the things that I don't want to do, I do.

00:10:02.220 And so, leaving aside, even for a moment, the morality of engaging in homosexual behavior, 0.91

00:10:08.300 certainly, you have to admit, there is a social and a cultural aspect to all of that over

00:10:14.060 whether or not you're going to do it in the first place.

00:10:16.100 Yeah.

00:10:16.480 Yeah, for sure.

00:10:17.920 Okay.

00:10:18.120 All right.

00:10:18.400 Well, we've already gotten you canceled. 1.00

00:10:19.840 You've already, you just called every gay guy in America a rapist, I think. 1.00

00:10:23.040 Okay, so now. 0.96

00:10:23.660 It's not a good show if you don't get a Media Matters article out of it.

00:10:27.220 The immigration crisis at the American southern border is more important than Russia invading 0.96

00:10:34.120 Ukraine.

00:10:44.020 You were right.

00:10:46.120 I only say that because you're American, though.

00:10:49.160 So was I right?

00:10:52.660 I'm torn.

00:10:54.020 You should put the drink in the middle.

00:10:55.180 If you stand in the middle of the road, Lauren, you're going to get hit by a truck.

00:10:59.820 I just finished a documentary on the American border crisis, and I think it's extremely important.

00:11:05.380 But obviously, if you're Ukrainian, if you're Russian, that's going to be more important to you.

00:11:10.200 And then the geopolitical fallout, all of that, it's hard to say.

00:11:13.600 It's hard to say.

00:11:14.500 How can America make the argument that Ukraine's borders are sacred if we don't believe in our own borders?

00:11:20.240 Yeah.

00:11:20.620 It's simple enough to me.

00:11:21.420 I'm not saying it's even describing the threats to the world order, although I do think that an America without borders, which is to say an America that's not really a nation, I think that's a huge threat to the world order.

00:11:32.180 We're supposed to be the global hegemon, and we can't even control our own borders.

00:11:35.620 But furthermore, if the argument is nations should have their borders respected, big, powerful countries, although, frankly, Russia seems less powerful than I think a lot of us believed it would be before the invasion, but big, powerful countries shouldn't invade smaller, weaker countries.

00:11:49.320 Well, how can we make that argument when we won't protect our own borders?

00:11:52.340 I think back to the old Ben Shapiro debates on TV about gun control and him saying, but the Second Amendment is for, you know, if there's an invading force, it's not for just going to your gun range and having fun.

00:12:07.160 It's not for hunting deer.

00:12:08.240 And everyone would just laugh at that and say, when is that going to happen?

00:12:11.560 Right.

00:12:11.740 Because we've got a, you know, 50-year-at-best memory span, right?

00:12:16.340 And every other nation on Earth, especially China, Russia, they're thinking on 100-year timelines, not four-year election cycles.

00:12:22.460 They're like, okay, we have been shamed.

00:12:24.600 We've had those years of shame.

00:12:26.280 We're now going to take over the South China Sea.

00:12:28.220 We're going to have this plan we're going to execute for 100 years.

00:12:31.040 We remember invasions.

00:12:32.140 We remember all this.

00:12:32.960 Americans, Canadians, forget about it. 0.96

00:12:35.900 You can't do it.

00:12:36.340 And by the way, we're not even talking about the Guatemalan economic migrant who just wants to make some money for his family.

00:12:42.540 There are terrorists who are arrested trying to cross into our border.

00:12:46.520 There are foreign nationals who are up to all sorts of problems who are apprehended and sometimes not apprehended coming into our country.

00:12:53.200 When I was on the Reynosa border right across from McAllen, Texas, they've got a country club on the other side.

00:13:00.760 And I guess the U.S. government couldn't buy the space to put the border wall, so the border wall just stops and then it's just country club.

00:13:05.800 And every night there, they've got people going over in boats.

00:13:08.620 We were flying our drone over, and there's boats across the whole shore.

00:13:11.960 And in the abandoned buildings where migrants will wait before they go to this Texan country club, there's spray paint of 18th Street gang all over them.

00:13:19.960 And that's an El Salvadorian competitor gang to MS-13. 0.67

00:13:23.260 And I'm like, they're not spray painting this because they own this territory.

00:13:26.760 They're spray painting it before they go into America, most likely successfully. 0.96

00:13:31.560 And I witnessed that with my own eyes.

00:13:32.960 You've got gang members from El Salvador every day making their way through Mexico up into the U.S.

00:13:38.220 It's not usually what you think of when you think of a country club.

00:13:41.080 You usually think of guys wearing, you know, gold button blazers here instead of shuffling MS-13 gang-banging psychos into America.

00:13:48.040 Yeah, yeah.

00:13:48.820 That's a scary situation.

00:13:50.000 Absolutely.

00:13:51.140 Worthwhile to drink, even though we both guessed right. 0.99

00:13:53.880 The Canadian government hates Christians more than it hates Muslim extremists. 0.98

00:13:57.480 I'm going to do a soft slide so I don't spill again. 0.99

00:14:04.520 All right.

00:14:05.700 Somehow you did spill.

00:14:06.940 I don't know how.

00:14:08.200 It doesn't make any sense.

00:14:09.360 It's rigged, all right?

00:14:10.280 It's rigged.

00:14:10.680 It's rigged.

00:14:11.660 You're correct.

00:14:12.480 As are you.

00:14:13.120 It goes without saying.

00:14:14.080 It's not.

00:14:14.440 Did you ever watch that Norm Macdonald episode where he interviews the girl about 9-11 and she says the unfortunate thing about 9-11 was all the hate that it caused against Muslims?

00:14:24.820 I feel like that's kind of the Canadian government's response to the issue, whereas they see like the church burnings that happened over last summer.

00:14:32.280 You know, like 50 churches, more than that, vandalized, attacked, burnt to the ground.

00:14:36.980 On BS.

00:14:37.660 Yeah, on BS grounds, and they put out a little statement, ooh, that's not so good, and ignore it.

00:14:42.700 We know that if that were mosques, they'd be just, you know, Trudeau would be doing a tour across the country. 0.97

00:14:49.300 No, there is no question.

00:14:50.580 The worst part about Canadian leftists burning down dozens and dozens of churches is the potential blowback.

00:15:00.220 Precisely, Michael.

00:15:01.520 All right.

00:15:01.900 Well done.

00:15:03.340 Cheers.

00:15:03.640 Cheers.

00:15:03.780 Cheers.

00:15:07.660 I'm actually into the idea of the metaverse.

00:15:18.180 Yeah, no, I know I'm a normal person.

00:15:20.660 I want to live in a world created by God, not a world created by some weird reptilian named Zuckerberg.

00:15:26.460 Yeah.

00:15:26.920 Yeah, I think I'll pass on that one.

00:15:28.480 I played enough Second Life in high school to know that.

00:15:31.360 Hey, you know.

00:15:31.880 Not a big fan.

00:15:32.460 Yeah, you know this, like, beautiful, glorious creation with waterfalls and love and joy and hope.

00:15:38.420 What if you just live in Sims all the time?

00:15:40.300 Yeah, that'll be fun, right?

00:15:41.660 That sounds great.

00:15:42.160 Some people would pick that, though.

00:15:43.780 That's how sad and miserable things are getting.

00:15:46.080 Plus, in the metaverse, you don't even get legs.

00:15:48.000 Did you know that?

00:15:48.500 You don't get legs.

00:15:49.120 No, they got rid of legs, actually everything below your navel, because, this is not a joke,

00:15:54.900 there was too much groping going on in the metaverse.

00:15:57.920 In the beta testing, people kept groping, and so they got rid of their legs and loins

00:16:02.380 and everything, but there was still kind of groping, so now there's a six-foot virtual

00:16:08.600 barrier between all the characters.

00:16:10.840 My safe space.

00:16:11.920 Can't grope me if I don't have a body.

00:16:13.940 The patriarchy always finds a way.

00:16:16.080 Okay.

00:16:18.260 Using the term MAGA, if you're not American, is a very offensive and harmful form of cultural

00:16:24.520 appropriation.

00:16:26.040 So true.

00:16:27.000 So true.

00:16:27.780 Yeah, no, I'm going to say, actually, no, it's not cultural appropriation, because whether

00:16:37.760 you like it or not, America is the global empire, it runs the entire world, and there's

00:16:42.940 nothing even close.

00:16:43.980 Not for long.

00:16:44.980 The Russian invasion of Ukraine, it totally proves this. 0.98

00:16:47.280 Everyone thought, okay, you know, Russia, it's this really strong form, it was recently 0.70

00:16:51.600 a superpower.

00:16:52.580 No, it's nothing.

00:16:53.720 There's nothing even close.

00:16:54.980 There's America, which has all the guns and all the weapons and all the power and everything.

00:16:59.240 And then there's everyone else below the table.

00:17:01.440 I can't even find everyone else here.

00:17:03.080 The asymmetries are so crazy.

00:17:04.820 And so I'm not saying that's a good thing.

00:17:06.800 I'm not saying it's a bad thing.

00:17:08.560 But it's the way it is.

00:17:09.380 And so, in a sense, we're all living in the American empire.

00:17:11.700 I love America, but I think you're doing the American thing where you overestimate your

00:17:17.060 country, unfortunately.

00:17:18.400 China, Russia, they're playing the long game.

00:17:21.020 No, I'm not saying-

00:17:21.660 All they have to do is wait to win.

00:17:23.160 Yes.

00:17:23.440 No, I'm not even disputing that.

00:17:25.700 I'm not saying that America's going to remain that way forever.

00:17:28.540 Yeah.

00:17:28.880 You know, pride goeth before destruction and a haughty spirit before a fall.

00:17:32.840 Yeah.

00:17:33.020 But right now, today, we're all American.

00:17:37.540 All right.

00:17:38.440 All right.

00:17:38.860 Well, I will happily culturally appropriate then, now that I've been given the mega pass.

00:17:46.700 I believe you're right.

00:17:47.360 Also, wait, that's a bit contradictory in itself.

00:17:49.920 Say, make America great again, but our country is already the greatest.

00:17:54.000 Got him.

00:17:54.960 Well, got him.

00:17:56.140 Got him.

00:17:56.760 It's like, yeah, you're right.

00:17:58.680 Could you be, you could be very, very powerful, but not great, right?

00:18:05.320 In the sense that at the height of Roman decadence, at the height of just vicious, debauched Roman 1.00

00:18:14.260 decadence, it was the world empire, but was it great in a moral sense?

00:18:20.760 Probably not.

00:18:22.060 Got him back spiritually.

00:18:23.440 Australia during COVID is basically Afghanistan without Abrahamic religion and a full-body 0.87

00:18:39.940 version of masks.

00:18:41.080 I mean.

00:18:41.380 Yes, I guess the concept, right?

00:18:51.220 Like, I was told by the government when I could and couldn't leave my house.

00:18:56.200 Anywhere I went had to be tracked by, you know, the government, which is clearly run by the

00:19:00.960 patriarchy and men, so I had to have tabs on myself by men constantly.

00:19:05.340 Everyone had apps on their phone.

00:19:06.940 Whenever you went into a store, even an Uber, you had to scan the app.

00:19:10.480 And it would literally have a list of locations you had been all day, all month, wherever.

00:19:16.020 And that would be sent off into a government database.

00:19:18.460 Think about how valuable that data is.

00:19:20.200 That is so spooky.

00:19:21.020 You can know where every 30-year-old woman is at 4 p.m. on a Tuesday afternoon in Australia.

00:19:26.220 Wow.

00:19:26.680 That is, like, extremely powerful levels of data.

00:19:30.200 That is.

00:19:30.720 I would have to say you got it wrong.

00:19:32.780 Oh, okay.

00:19:33.740 Because, well, one, because the Western liberal establishment has been able to successfully

00:19:41.340 occupy Australia, unlike Afghanistan, which it completely botched for 20 years. 0.97

00:19:46.080 That would be one thing.

00:19:46.700 And also because Afghanistan has heroin.

00:19:49.940 You know, they've got very valuable opium.

00:19:52.260 At least they've got heroin.

00:19:53.320 They've got something.

00:19:53.940 They've got a very valuable export.

00:19:55.900 Australia these days, I don't even know what they're exporting.

00:19:58.360 It's been 30 years since Crocodile Dundee.

00:20:00.200 What do they have?

00:20:00.840 Outback Steakhouse is their biggest export.

00:20:03.240 And we own that.

00:20:04.580 So true.

00:20:05.400 So true.

00:20:06.060 You're stuck in your house, and you don't even have heroin.

00:20:08.520 I know.

00:20:09.060 Or a Bloomin' Onion.

00:20:10.220 Horrendous.

00:20:10.980 Oh, Bloomin' Onion is the best.

00:20:14.400 Okay.

00:20:16.460 A trans man is, I guess, personal.

00:20:19.240 A trans man dating a trans woman is just a straight couple with extra steps. 1.00

00:20:28.520 I think by definition.

00:20:30.840 Yeah.

00:20:31.160 Well, I know they just came out with recent research that showed, oh, it's like ridiculously low.

00:20:36.620 Like somewhere between only 1% to 10% of transgender people actually are meaningfully transgender.

00:20:43.120 In fact, I think it's the 1% in that they actually get surgery to change anything at all.

00:20:49.240 So technically, the majority of people that identify as transgender would still have the original parts. 0.91

00:20:54.600 You know, I'm actually, as you say that, I'm going to change my answer.

00:20:59.320 Okay, let's see this.

00:21:00.120 I've just had an epiphany in real time.

00:21:02.540 Because, you know, sure, technically, it's still a dude and a chick, even though.

00:21:07.840 But the very fact that they're pretending that the dude is the chick and the chick is the dude would seem to me to suggest it's not the same thing as a straight couple.

00:21:15.320 Because I know this is very politically incorrect.

00:21:17.740 I think men and women have different roles in marriage. 1.00

00:21:21.660 Now we use this stupid word, relationship. 0.99

00:21:24.460 You know, I'm in a relationship. 1.00

00:21:25.700 Like you're, I'm in a partnership.

00:21:27.040 Like you're starting an accounting firm or something.

00:21:28.860 But no, when you're in a marriage, husbands and wives do different things, different roles, different, just kind of different categories.

00:21:36.000 And so if you've got the dude pretending to be the chick and the chick pretending to be the dude, it's not just the same thing as a straight couple.

00:21:41.400 It's kind of the opposite of a straight couple.

00:21:42.780 Yeah, reverse.

00:21:44.660 But I guess, like, you're talking about a traditional straight couple.

00:21:48.120 Because the modern straight couple, they do do switcheroos all the time.

00:21:51.700 Like the stay-at-home husband.

00:21:53.800 Yeah, so.

00:21:54.640 No, you make a good point.

00:21:55.860 Even the very concept of straight, like the idea that you need this separate category for straight.

00:22:01.360 You're right.

00:22:01.720 Okay, I changed my answer back.

00:22:03.200 You're right, Lauren.

00:22:03.640 You convinced me again.

00:22:04.600 You brought me back from the brink.

00:22:06.240 Wonderful.

00:22:06.760 Okay.

00:22:09.160 All right, is it me?

00:22:10.120 You're up.

00:22:10.400 A form of pedophilia will be added to the LGBTQ plus cause and be in the process of being normalized before the 2024 presidential election. 1.00

00:22:30.920 It's because of the and.

00:22:32.700 It's not going to, it's not, it is in the process of being normalized.

00:22:36.300 You're seeing professors now come out and say, we shouldn't use the word pedophilia.

00:22:40.100 That's, that's stigmatized.

00:22:41.860 We should say minor, attracted person.

00:22:43.560 We should push this.

00:22:45.260 But I, they're not going to do it before 2024.

00:22:47.940 And they're, they're probably not going to add it to the initialism just because it's bad optics, right?

00:22:52.400 It's bad PR.

00:22:53.660 Yeah, that's the only reason I said no as well as I think, what is it?

00:22:57.180 Yeah, 2024 is too soon.

00:22:58.780 Give them another 10 years.

00:22:59.980 Yeah.

00:23:00.180 I, I saw a meme recently that was saying, if gay marriage gets legalized, what is going to happen?

00:23:07.600 And then it just has a big bar graph that says, gay people will be happy.

00:23:11.400 And below, it has a bunch of other options that's like, disease will spread across the world.

00:23:16.320 The terrorists will win, you know, the election.

00:23:18.760 Pedophilia will be normalized. 0.94

00:23:19.460 Russia will invade. 0.88

00:23:20.680 And then it's like, but all of the options below did actually eventually happen.

00:23:25.420 Jokes aside. 0.87

00:23:26.180 And gay people still aren't happy. 1.00

00:23:27.440 You know, it's a fallen world, man. 0.97

00:23:29.320 None of us is, you know, you're not going to, if you make your identity just about who you

00:23:32.480 sht up, you're not going to have a great life.

00:23:34.220 Yeah, yeah.

00:23:34.900 The slippery slope has been very real though.

00:23:37.060 That's one thing that I think everyone can at least give conservatives.

00:23:40.260 The slippery slope is not a fallacy.

00:23:43.500 No, the slippery slope, the only thing that's fallacious about the slippery slope is you never

00:23:47.840 seem to get to the bottom of it.

00:23:49.420 Every time you think I'm at the bottom, I cannot, we, we are now talking about grooming

00:23:54.560 five-year-olds and talking about, you know, pumping them full of cross-sex hormones, there's 0.82

00:23:58.860 no way we can, oh no, I'm somehow going down even further and they're going to normalize.

00:24:01.960 Yeah, what is that Zizek quote?

00:24:03.800 It's, uh, the light at the end of the tunnel is another train.

00:24:08.500 Wonderful.

00:24:09.300 American politics, probably, probably true. 0.89

00:24:11.940 Women with a high body count are more, I think it's just referring to certain romantic 1.00

00:24:18.060 relationships, women with a high body count are more miserable later in life. 1.00

00:24:26.980 Yeah, I guess I agree.

00:24:28.620 With what, with one caveat, people can commit all sorts of terrible things, you know, when

00:24:34.200 I was young and irresponsible, I was young and irresponsible, and they can turn their

00:24:39.000 lives around.

00:24:39.540 They can actually change their minds.

00:24:40.780 They can repent.

00:24:41.340 They can go live a way better life.

00:24:43.260 Joy is available to them.

00:24:44.440 Ultimate salvation is available to them, but it is true that even all of that notwithstanding,

00:24:51.060 you are probably going to regret your, well, you're going to regret it.

00:24:56.480 You're going to have those pangs.

00:24:57.420 I mean, that is, there is a temporal effect of all sorts of sin.

00:25:01.260 But the only reason I'm hung up here is, on Easter, Christians always say, oh, happy 1.00

00:25:05.960 fault that one for me so great, so glorious, a redeemer, that we actually celebrate the fall

00:25:09.760 of mankind and the original sin in the Garden of Eden because we get the redeemer.

00:25:15.140 We get salvation out of that, even though it was a problem to do it in the first place.

00:25:18.380 So you could see a world, and I know people like this, who say, man, I lived a debauched,

00:25:22.700 terrible, disgusting, degenerate life, but hey, it brought me to God.

00:25:26.260 I wouldn't be here today if I hadn't done that. 0.82

00:25:28.980 So I'm kind of, I'm really torn.

00:25:30.540 I'm really torn on that.

00:25:31.500 Yeah, logically speaking, I mean, doesn't it just seem reasonable that if you find the person

00:25:35.600 you love and want to spend the rest of your life with them, and that's the person you

00:25:38.380 sleep with, and you don't have to go through, like, 10,000 failed relationships and experiences

00:25:43.340 that you'll necessarily be more happy.

00:25:45.760 Also, you know, sex, especially, like, in marriage for years and years, when you work

00:25:51.060 on that and you build it up, I think it's way better.

00:25:53.420 Yeah.

00:25:54.080 Yeah, yeah.

00:25:54.600 Now, listen, I have to get a little saucy.

00:25:55.980 Single flings.

00:25:57.220 I saw, there was a meme that just came out.

00:25:59.700 It said, getting married in your 20s is like leaving a party at 8 o'clock.

00:26:03.620 And I thought, hold on, so you're telling me I can leave a party early with a woman that 1.00

00:26:08.080 I get to go sleep with for many, many times over many, many years, or I can just hang

00:26:12.340 out until 2 a.m. and go home alone?

00:26:13.840 I don't think so.

00:26:14.660 Trying to get a girl to come home with you, having all these unsuccessful kind of half 1.00

00:26:18.940 things.

00:26:19.440 Yeah, no.

00:26:20.380 I will say, I like your point about forgiveness, though, because that's one thing that I really

00:26:25.460 would love to see more, especially in conservatism.

00:26:27.860 There's no forgiveness on the left right now.

00:26:29.440 It's pure, oh, you tweeted something 15 years ago?

00:26:32.000 Well, time to execute.

00:26:33.680 And on the right, there is this opportunity to say, oh, you're broken.

00:26:38.180 And we have to say that because we've all grown up in a broken world, especially millennials. 0.98

00:26:42.560 Like, you really think millennials aren't going to have sex before marriage, do drugs, do 1.00

00:26:47.200 all these things?

00:26:47.660 Of course they are.

00:26:48.300 It's all around them 24-7.

00:26:49.180 We're encouraged to.

00:26:50.080 Yeah.

00:26:50.320 So you have to offer a path for something better and also admit our own faults.

00:26:56.320 Like, I think that's a big problem in conservative creation as well.

00:27:00.540 Like, we are all very fallen people, conservative creators, as everyone who watches us.

00:27:05.700 It's about trying to aspire for something better and more.

00:27:08.640 So yeah, thank God for God.

00:27:11.080 Cheers to that.

00:27:12.000 Cheers to that.

00:27:12.580 Just like political commentary is for failed actors, documentaries are for failed filmmakers.

00:27:23.400 Wow.

00:27:23.700 I mean, I'm just going to say you say no, and you better say no, too.

00:27:28.180 No, I would say no.

00:27:31.540 Both, I assume you would say no, but I also would say no because, what about Werner Herzog?

00:27:36.520 I don't think the guy was going to be in, you know, Guys and Dolls.

00:27:39.140 I don't think the guy wanted to be, you know, playing Woody in Toy Story.

00:27:42.360 The guy is a documentarian, and that's a very high form of art, and he's very good at it.

00:27:48.580 Actually, you just made me rethink my answer the other way.

00:27:51.900 I think that art is the best way to communicate with people.

00:27:55.380 You can't make someone care about, you know, a Stalin quote, you know, a million is just a statistic, whereas one, that's like someone you can sympathize with. 0.61

00:28:07.420 That's a tragedy.

00:28:09.560 And you look at any documentary on a subject, if it's just pure around the facts about a subject, a lot of people will watch it, and people who are fact-minded, they'll enjoy it.

00:28:21.280 But it's those emotional movies made about wars, made about tragedies that really make people care and get involved.

00:28:28.440 I agree that narrative storytelling is more powerful.

00:28:33.140 But still, I think some people are just documentarians.

00:28:36.720 I don't think it's that they're failed, you know, showgirls or something.

00:28:40.860 You wouldn't say that a math—look, I think that telling stories is probably more important than a lot of high-level mathematics.

00:28:47.300 But you wouldn't say the mathematician is a failed artist.

00:28:51.260 You would just say he's a mathematician.

00:28:52.880 It's a different thing.

00:28:53.820 It's got value to it.

00:28:54.960 Yeah, it does.

00:28:55.500 But I'll tell you right now, if I had the budget for it, I'd move to filmmaking instead of documentaries right away.

00:29:00.960 Could I be a showgirl in the movie?

00:29:02.480 You can absolutely—I will cast you for sure as a showgirl. 1.00

00:29:05.600 I just—I look at it, and I don't think any—like, I think the girl in the little red dress in Schindler's List did more for talking about, you know, tragedies during World War II than history classes in school that most people zone out in.

00:29:21.240 Yeah, that's true.

00:29:21.940 Like, I think those kind of little artistic—they touch people's souls, right?

00:29:26.860 Yeah, that is true.

00:29:27.560 Hard to do with numbers.

00:29:28.340 That is true.

00:29:30.040 Joseph Conrad says that the job of the artist is to render the highest possible justice to the visible world.

00:29:37.540 And, you know, that's something that we people who just own the libs on the internet—that's—it's—I agree, it's a higher calling.

00:29:44.660 All right, I'll still drink.

00:29:46.580 Always.

00:29:47.400 Got to finish it before the end.

00:29:50.700 All right.

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00:31:10.300 All right, picking back up the game.

00:31:13.380 I am legally banned from the United Kingdom.

00:31:20.720 Very funny.

00:31:21.940 You really got me with that one.

00:31:23.760 You got it right.

00:31:24.600 I'm allowed into the United Kingdom.

00:31:25.840 Wow, that's so cool. 0.99

00:31:26.800 You're allowed into that trash country? 0.99

00:31:28.580 Congratulations, Michael. 1.00

00:31:29.780 Have fun drinking and watching footy into oblivion while your country is destroyed.

00:31:34.780 Who banned you? 0.96

00:31:36.180 It wasn't the queen.

00:31:36.900 It was the queen herself, actually.

00:31:39.060 She came down and told me, how dare you, Lauren? 1.00

00:31:42.240 She's a tough old German lady. 1.00

00:31:43.960 You know, she is.

00:31:44.700 I like her very much.

00:31:45.720 I think I'm one of the only women in the world to be arrested for terrorism, though.

00:31:50.240 So that's very feminist of me, in my opinion.

00:31:52.680 That's true.

00:31:54.120 You're breaking the glass ceiling.

00:31:55.800 I'm a trailblazer, truly.

00:31:57.920 Okay, well, who needs it?

00:32:00.140 Who needs those lions, anyway? 0.96

00:32:01.720 Okay, you're up.

00:32:07.120 Not believing in Jesus Christ is the main cause of people turning into total libs.

00:32:14.340 No, it is.

00:32:22.260 It is.

00:32:23.060 It's just as simple as that.

00:32:24.160 Because it all really comes out of the French Revolution.

00:32:27.060 And the French Revolution was a rejection of Christ and his church. 0.65

00:32:31.840 And the Enlightenment Project, broadly, was a rejection of Christ and his church.

00:32:35.420 And that is the beginning of liberalism.

00:32:37.800 So it is, in a very literal way, it is.

00:32:39.840 Wait, but do Protestants not believe in Jesus Christ? 0.76

00:32:43.220 No, they do.

00:32:44.280 But...

00:32:44.780 But if they're the cause...

00:32:45.880 Well, some do.

00:32:46.500 Some do.

00:32:46.880 Not all do.

00:32:47.560 Some reject the...

00:32:48.180 I happen to agree with you.

00:32:50.040 You know, the Reformation led to the complete questioning of any sort of structure and definition.

00:32:58.540 Suddenly, you can go into your own little closet and decide what you want anything to be.

00:33:03.020 There doesn't have to be an authority or anything to tell you, which, good and bad aspects to that,

00:33:07.360 but definitely led us down an interesting path.

00:33:10.600 But yeah, still, a lot of Protestants, Episcopalians, you know, you've got a lot of denominations.

00:33:17.040 So are you blaming the Protestants for the French Revolution?

00:33:22.260 Because I might, but I didn't think a Protestant would. 0.99

00:33:25.360 I'm just saying, there's a lot of liberal Protestants that believe in Jesus Christ.

00:33:29.700 No, there are.

00:33:30.840 There are.

00:33:31.280 I mean, they're libcats to the liberal Catholics, for those who aren't up on the lingo. 0.83

00:33:36.020 They are, too.

00:33:37.160 But again, I do think a lot of that...

00:33:40.040 I mean, modernity begins with the Protestant Revolution.

00:33:42.860 There's no question about that.

00:33:43.940 And the Protestant Revolution does play into aspects of the French Revolution.

00:33:49.320 There's no question about that.

00:33:50.100 The French Revolution is where we get the terms left and right, even, right?

00:33:52.600 The right were the people who supported the monarchy, and the left were the big libs.

00:33:56.020 So there's no question about all of that.

00:33:58.400 And there's a very interesting conversation to be had about the role of Mr. Luther in all of these things.

00:34:03.660 But I think at a very basic level, when we talk about liberalism, lowercase L, capital L, leftism, progressivism, all of it,

00:34:13.280 it does appear to all have come out of a rejection of the authority of the church and Christianity.

00:34:21.400 Yeah, of course, there has to be some structure when you believe in Christianity.

00:34:26.180 But did God himself not give us freedom to eat of the tree?

00:34:30.800 Well, there was a punishment.

00:34:32.780 I mean, he didn't, right?

00:34:33.900 He said, don't do it.

00:34:34.760 And then we had this free will, and it really, we probably shouldn't have used it,

00:34:38.940 except that that happy fault gave to us so great, so glorious, a redeemer.

00:34:41.480 Now, it's even further complicated, because this mucky soup of liberalism that we all just find ourselves mired in

00:34:51.900 has colored, as you point out very insightfully, the way that Christians even view themselves.

00:34:57.140 Christians have become very liberal in many ways, which is a very sad thing. 0.88

00:35:02.520 I wouldn't even say that.

00:35:04.200 So, like, Christianity does mimic aspects of you have personal freedom.

00:35:10.400 So, there's aspects of liberalism.

00:35:11.980 You have that personal freedom.

00:35:13.240 So, the problem isn't the personal freedom itself.

00:35:16.180 It's the choices we're making with said personal freedom.

00:35:18.860 Spoken like a true Protestant. 0.88

00:35:20.520 Cheers.

00:35:23.640 Cheers.

00:35:26.960 All right.

00:35:29.860 Getting married and being a mother is the highest good for a woman and should be the priority in life. 0.99

00:35:40.400 The only reason I say no, the only reason I say no, is I think not everyone is called to be married.

00:35:51.240 Not everyone is called to motherhood.

00:35:54.040 Some people are physically incapable of becoming mothers.

00:35:57.440 I'm not just talking about men who think that they're women, but women too.

00:36:00.920 But religious life is a high calling.

00:36:02.980 Now, people laugh about it.

00:36:04.380 You say, what, you want me to become a nun?

00:36:05.560 Well, yeah, some of the greatest people in history have been nuns and had consecrated religious life.

00:36:10.920 But generally, for the vast majority of women, I would say yes.

00:36:14.820 Yeah, I'm a no as well.

00:36:16.280 There are people that I know where I'm like, you shouldn't be a mother.

00:36:21.880 And I don't say that because they're bad people, but they just don't have that nurturing aspect to them.

00:36:26.780 And I think that you're much better off having parents that want to be parents and are deliberate about it and are like, that is my calling.

00:36:35.160 I am a mother.

00:36:35.920 I want to have kids.

00:36:36.700 I want to love them and care for them.

00:36:38.520 Then push people into it that won't be great parents.

00:36:42.540 Because I think, obviously, the catastrophic destruction of our family today and marriages falling apart, all of that has been one of the greatest evils and one of the greatest scourges on our civilization.

00:36:55.820 It all starts with that minute factor, not these big, you know, big picture questions we're always talking about.

00:37:02.200 So definitely a no for me.

00:37:03.900 Is there a thought, though, because I know exactly the type of young lady you're talking about, or you think, oh, you're probably not going to be the most nurturing. 0.91

00:37:10.640 But is there a thought of sort of, well, just jump into the deep end, you know, and just do it, and that will transform you and your character?

00:37:17.640 Yeah, I mean, I think that does happen for some people.

00:37:19.860 But there's also the question of, do you really want to take that chance with the child's life?

00:37:25.260 Yeah, yeah, like, would you want your parents to be, well, we'll see if it works out.

00:37:30.440 I mean, I'd be alive at least, but yes, it could be, it's a very fraught prospect.

00:37:34.060 Yeah.

00:37:34.460 I agree.

00:37:34.860 Yeah, I'll drink.

00:37:35.460 Very intentional.

00:37:36.420 I'll drink to that. 1.00

00:37:36.740 It is more dangerous to be a white farmer in South Africa than a gay duck. 1.00

00:37:45.340 Who wrote these? 1.00

00:37:47.040 Than a gay duck visiting the United Arab Emirates. 1.00

00:37:52.080 A gay duck. 1.00

00:37:53.260 There were, some years ago, there were gay penguins in the Central Park Zoo. 0.87

00:37:59.760 I think, did they mean to write dude? 0.99

00:38:03.960 Gay, I don't, I'm going to, gay duck. 1.00

00:38:08.040 I'm sorry, we shouldn't be joking, because it's actually really horrible to be a white farmer in South Africa. 0.99

00:38:12.900 Like, it's horrendous. 0.99

00:38:14.300 And to be a gay duck in the United Arab Emirates. 1.00

00:38:16.920 Lauren, please don't downplay that. 0.99

00:38:18.580 Okay, I'm going to have some editorial control here and say it's a gay dude. 0.98

00:38:23.160 So it's more dangerous being a white farmer in South Africa. 1.00

00:38:28.560 The gay duck. 1.00

00:38:30.260 What is this guy talking? 0.99

00:38:33.060 Can I get a new producer, please?

00:38:35.380 This guy knows my history way better than I do.

00:38:38.260 Wow.

00:38:38.700 I think I may have posted a meme like three years ago of a duck getting hanged in the United Arab Emirates.

00:38:43.440 That's weird to follow those memes that closely. 0.99

00:38:45.940 Okay, all right, the producers say it's dumb. 0.94

00:38:48.420 You've got to move mine. 0.96

00:38:50.440 Losing it here.

00:38:52.160 Yeah, absolutely. 0.99

00:38:53.300 Most people in the United Arab Emirates are secretly gay anyway.

00:38:56.440 You know, one time, this is true, I was at a nightclub in Dubai. 0.62

00:39:00.780 And I'm there, and a lot of people coming over from Abu Dhabi or Sharjah or wherever, or Saudi Arabia.

00:39:07.380 And I met, first of all, all their names were Mo, like Mohammed.

00:39:11.080 But they didn't want to say Mohammed because I'm Western.

00:39:12.800 So they said, I'm Mo. 0.96

00:39:13.960 And they were all gay guys. 0.81

00:39:16.360 They were all gay guys just living it up in Dubai. 1.00

00:39:19.560 Have you ever heard this quote? 0.98

00:39:20.940 It's from that region, but they'll say, women are for children, boys are for pleasure. 0.64

00:39:27.640 That's like genuinely a belief system.

00:39:29.820 In the Afghan National Army, which briefly existed, now exists no more.

00:39:35.600 There was this big problem of pederasty.

00:39:37.680 And one of the lines that was reported to the inspector general for Afghanistan reconstruction was,

00:39:42.880 what do you want me?

00:39:43.380 I'll clean it up a little bit.

00:39:44.640 What do you want me to do if I can't sleep with little boys? 0.99

00:39:47.160 What am I supposed to sleep with?

00:39:48.160 My grandmother?

00:39:49.340 There was a line actually reported to the government. 0.98

00:39:50.920 So, yes, also because the gay ducks can kind of maybe suppress it, keep it in check while they're in UAE. 1.00

00:39:58.200 But the white farmers, you know, unless they're going to pull a Justin Trudeau, 0.97

00:40:01.400 which has its own politically incorrect implications, they're not able to hide who they are.

00:40:05.500 Yeah.

00:40:06.320 Okay, I'll drink to that.

00:40:07.160 True.

00:40:08.580 Okay.

00:40:09.260 Justin Trudeau is just ahead of the curve.

00:40:11.040 The jab is fake and is more likely just a mark of the beast mechanism for tracking people's movements,

00:40:18.560 controlling population growth, and possibly giving 5G than actually preventing people from getting sick.

00:40:26.000 Due to YouTube rules, this is very important.

00:40:27.800 Due to YouTube rules, make your guess.

00:40:30.260 Hello, Susan Wojcicki.

00:40:31.580 How are you?

00:40:32.160 Do not verbally confirm if any other person guessed correctly.

00:40:37.720 Give only a nonverbal, ambiguous gesture.

00:40:40.560 So, you're just saying, you're just guessing for the other person, whether you believe.

00:40:44.860 Well, no, Susan has already guessed for us.

00:40:46.740 Has she?

00:40:47.080 No, but.

00:40:47.340 Susan has already decided.

00:40:48.440 We don't, yeah, I.

00:40:51.020 Susan, please don't take me down.

00:40:53.020 Give a nonverbal blink if you're being held hostage.

00:40:57.100 Because we would never say that the jab is obviously fake, and I can't even get through it.

00:41:02.260 They're going to kick it, they're going to ruin my career.

00:41:03.800 I can't.

00:41:03.940 The jab is, of course, not a mark of the beast,

00:41:06.500 and it is definitely not a mechanism for tracking people's movements or controlling population growth.

00:41:11.840 Certainly not.

00:41:15.540 Okay.

00:41:16.420 You're all right.

00:41:17.000 Drink to that.

00:41:17.860 Drink to our last YouTube video.

00:41:19.300 Yeah, right.

00:41:19.780 I've not seen Borderless, Crossfire, Farmlands, or American Mirage. 0.99

00:41:29.020 I hate you.

00:41:34.040 I assume you've seen it. 0.96

00:41:35.840 No, I've not seen my own movies.

00:41:37.440 Oh, no, actually.

00:41:37.740 I had a stand-in.

00:41:38.940 Hold on.

00:41:39.280 It's not, I have not seen either or.

00:41:42.980 American Mirage isn't out yet.

00:41:44.220 That's what I'm saying, but I saw the other one.

00:41:46.240 Okay, there we go.

00:41:46.680 Your first one, I interviewed you about the other one.

00:41:48.440 Farmlands, yeah.

00:41:48.980 Farmlands, yeah.

00:41:49.680 Okay, yeah.

00:41:50.420 How about that?

00:41:51.120 All right.

00:41:51.700 How about that, guys?

00:41:52.040 You thought you had one on me, but you don't.

00:41:54.940 Because it was in Orr.

00:41:57.920 Okay.

00:42:01.400 The biggest issue with the legacy media is that, can I pause there?

00:42:04.880 I don't like that term.

00:42:05.980 It makes them sound cool.

00:42:07.560 Legacy is cool.

00:42:08.420 I want a legacy. 0.98

00:42:09.160 I much prefer establishment media, lib media, crooked, awful, disgusting, degenerate media, 0.88

00:42:15.660 but legacy is a cool word. 0.95

00:42:17.900 Anyway, that's a digression.

00:42:19.260 The biggest issue with the legacy, I'm going to edit.

00:42:22.080 The lib media, right?

00:42:23.140 Yes, thank you very much.

00:42:24.440 Thank you for interpreting that.

00:42:25.660 Is that it's controlled and influenced by a group of people who are demographically small,

00:42:29.340 yet vastly overrepresented in the media.

00:42:31.560 Where the hell is this going?

00:42:32.960 Oh, hold on, hold on.

00:42:34.400 No, before you, no, wait.

00:42:37.680 Blue Jack Twitter leftists.

00:42:40.600 Okay.

00:42:41.520 All right.

00:42:42.000 I thought we were having a little bit of a, well, we were having a little David Duke

00:42:46.600 on the staff over here, but we don't.

00:42:48.500 It's talking about how the libs, the blue check Twitter leftists control the establishment

00:42:54.020 media.

00:42:54.460 Is that, that's the biggest issue with the media.

00:43:03.580 Are you drunk?

00:43:04.860 I, that's not, I'm going to change my, it's not, that's not the biggest issue.

00:43:08.000 What?

00:43:08.760 No, it's not, it's not, the biggest issue with the lib media is not that it's controlled

00:43:13.940 by the small handful of the blue checks and whatever.

00:43:17.340 It's that they're wrong about everything.

00:43:19.400 Like it.

00:43:19.900 Yeah, but that's why they're wrong about everything.

00:43:21.560 I know it's related.

00:43:22.520 No, they seem like.

00:43:23.200 They are completely out of touch.

00:43:25.580 Yes.

00:43:25.720 Coastal elites that know nothing about the average person.

00:43:29.820 Their experience of the real world all comes from textbooks.

00:43:32.980 I totally agree.

00:43:33.400 My point is though, the media are always going to be controlled by some elite.

00:43:38.160 There's no such thing as a democratic media where, where every man has his own news channel.

00:43:42.600 So it's always going to be some elite, some small group of people.

00:43:45.060 That's fine by me.

00:43:45.960 I just want them to be a good elite.

00:43:48.380 I'm actually kind of pro elite. 0.99

00:43:50.040 If the elite aren't just disgusting dirtbags like they are today. 0.98

00:43:54.040 So you like your hierarchy. 0.99

00:43:55.480 How very conservative and Catholic of you.

00:43:56.720 I know.

00:43:57.300 I tell you, no, it's a bit Catholic.

00:43:58.660 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:43:58.980 I want it to be, I want it to be a good, a good elite.

00:44:01.760 I want good oppression.

00:44:02.960 That's what my, my dad always told me.

00:44:05.040 He was like, Lauren, this is not a democracy.

00:44:07.560 When I was growing up, this is a benevolent dictatorship.

00:44:11.000 But right now we're living in a malevolent dictator.

00:44:13.540 Yes.

00:44:14.140 That's right.

00:44:14.560 And the family, the family is not a democracy.

00:44:17.000 The kingdom of heaven is not a democracy.

00:44:19.080 Yeah.

00:44:19.660 So the media is never going to be a democracy. 0.68

00:44:22.400 I just don't want it to be so damn malevolent.

00:44:25.380 Is that too much to ask? 0.56

00:44:26.220 It probably is.

00:44:26.720 So if we can just have correct, horrible, rich elites, that would be great. 0.82

00:44:30.520 Yeah, like, you know, not all rich people are bad, just most of them.

00:44:36.320 Okay.

00:44:38.780 I actually know what the phrase, the New World Order, means.

00:44:50.860 I'm going to let you go first.

00:44:56.220 Yeah, I mean.

00:45:01.980 Go for it.

00:45:02.720 Susan's already going to kick us off anyway. 1.00

00:45:05.840 I mean.

00:45:06.100 It's a group of elites with interests that are generally opposed to the average working-class

00:45:15.700 individual and generally want to acquire more power for themselves and have a lot of control

00:45:22.420 over the banks, our media, our politics, government, souls.

00:45:28.740 It's been true since the beginning of the world.

00:45:30.320 This is the funny thing.

00:45:31.020 I mean, people go back.

00:45:31.780 They say, George H.W. Bush used the phrase in a presidential address.

00:45:35.740 Okay.

00:45:36.680 Or so-and-so.

00:45:37.720 Or this guy.

00:45:38.340 Or whatever said this.

00:45:39.800 It goes back, as Whitaker Chambers says, to the Garden of Eden, when the serpent in the

00:45:43.580 garden tells Eve, ye shall be as gods.

00:45:45.740 Right?

00:45:45.860 The idea of the New World Order, which really comes into fashion in modernity, in the post-enlightenment,

00:45:53.800 is this idea that we're going to upend every tradition that we ever had, every stable social

00:45:59.620 institution, every country, every all.

00:46:01.580 We're just going to upend all of it.

00:46:02.840 And through our unfettered reason, we're going to create this utopia on earth.

00:46:07.300 And we're going to do it.

00:46:08.500 It's not going to be very democratic the way we do it.

00:46:10.480 We're going to shut you down and take away your traditions and turn your boys into girls 1.00

00:46:14.720 and your girls into boys. 0.87

00:46:15.420 We're going to do it.

00:46:16.040 But it's, the thing about the New World Order is that it's all, the past is always evil.

00:46:22.400 The present is always a crisis.

00:46:23.660 And the future is always going to be great.

00:46:25.560 Just give us a little bit more power.

00:46:26.980 This time we'll get it right.

00:46:28.480 This time we'll get it right.

00:46:29.100 This time we've got it.

00:46:30.120 We swear.

00:46:30.880 Yeah.

00:46:31.800 Yeah.

00:46:32.040 That's to the, to the old order.

00:46:34.800 To the old order.

00:46:35.740 I love that.

00:46:37.960 All right.

00:46:38.600 This is me.

00:46:41.740 I think so.

00:46:44.760 Being a man has helped my career.

00:46:47.220 Dare I ask why you would say no?

00:47:11.440 For me.

00:47:12.020 I think that there is an assumption from a lot of, definitely people on the right,

00:47:17.180 that being a woman will further your career just by virtue of being hot, which isn't always 1.00

00:47:24.240 the case for being a woman, by the way. 0.65

00:47:25.880 So that's an assumption.

00:47:27.280 And also just by being rare, the scarcity in the right wing.

00:47:33.180 So because you are a right wing commentator, you might assume that being a woman and being

00:47:40.400 more scarce as a right wing commentator would assist.

00:47:43.400 Because women might, are probably as represented among conservatives as men, but among commentators,

00:47:48.980 commentators, they're much rarer.

00:47:50.760 Correct.

00:47:51.080 That's a good point.

00:47:52.200 That's true.

00:47:53.200 That's true.

00:47:55.900 Listen, I'm of Italian extraction.

00:47:58.760 Okay.

00:47:59.900 I am a very traditional guy.

00:48:02.180 I like to think that whatever charms I may possess, they're more of a masculine aspect.

00:48:09.780 Okay.

00:48:10.020 I don't know.

00:48:10.820 I'm not, I don't know.

00:48:11.740 I wouldn't know how to be a woman. 0.53

00:48:13.980 And furthermore, if I were a lady, would I be doing all of this?

00:48:21.580 Would I be putting myself through this rigmarole, this monstrous sort of life day by day in and

00:48:27.220 day out, miring myself in the muck and the yuck of the liberal madness and going out?

00:48:32.380 No, I'd probably, I'd find a rich guy.

00:48:34.160 I'd find a rich hunk and I would batten down the hatches and I'd have a good life.

00:48:40.620 Yeah.

00:48:41.480 So I guess you're right.

00:48:42.140 It hasn't helped my career.

00:48:43.000 I'd have a, I'd have a much better career if I were a lady. 1.00

00:48:45.960 Turning into a man was absolutely helpful to my career.

00:48:49.240 That video did great.

00:48:50.620 On an unironic level though, there are two, there is the fast track if you are a woman 1.00

00:48:55.840 that you can choose where you can sleep your way to the top.

00:48:58.460 Like that is an option for women. 1.00

00:48:59.540 There is.

00:48:59.820 That's totally real.

00:49:00.340 You can, you can do that.

00:49:01.360 But there's the other side where if you choose not to, it will genuinely hurt you.

00:49:07.540 So like a lot of people do not take rejection well and they will get you back for that as

00:49:12.480 a woman.

00:49:13.220 And, uh, you know, I can legitimately say I have lost opportunities for rejecting guys.

00:49:18.540 I didn't want to, I didn't want to press too much, but so you've experienced this.

00:49:23.080 Oh yeah, absolutely.

00:49:23.820 And I don't want to like, ah, feminists have made it so hard to talk about any legitimate. 1.00

00:49:27.960 He's like, what's his name?

00:49:29.140 What's his phone number?

00:49:30.040 Where do I get it?

00:49:30.560 Yeah.

00:49:30.680 Yeah.

00:49:30.820 How do I dox him?

00:49:31.540 And then they also complain about like, oh, like a guy like vaguely flirted with me, 0.97

00:49:35.080 like that's rape or whatever. 0.99

00:49:36.340 It's just made it impossible to talk about genuine problems in this.

00:49:39.300 But like, yeah, if you, if you reject a guy or maybe it probably happens the other way

00:49:44.160 around too with women, like that jilted reaction, especially amongst highly narcissistic personalities

00:49:50.560 can all be disastrous. 0.69

00:49:53.180 Hell has no fury.

00:49:54.100 Hell has no fury.

00:49:55.260 Like a narcissist scorn.

00:49:56.740 Exactly.

00:49:57.600 So I would say that there, there are benefits and there are absolutely women that can use 1.00

00:50:01.660 that to their advantage.

00:50:02.760 But if you don't know how to use that and you aren't someone who wants to take advantage

00:50:06.640 of that, then there, there, every, every, everything comes with a flip side, right?

00:50:11.060 That's true.

00:50:11.500 I would genuinely, if, uh, I would genuinely, um, going and filming my documentaries, I would

00:50:17.220 prefer to be a man while doing that just for safety reasons as well.

00:50:20.240 Yeah, running around South Africa.

00:50:21.500 Absolutely.

00:50:21.800 Yeah, I think it's probably a better idea to be a fella.

00:50:23.720 And then you get imposter syndrome too.

00:50:25.240 Cause it's like, oh, it, you know, do people actually like it?

00:50:29.220 Is it actually a good documentary or is it just cause I'm a woman?

00:50:32.240 I know.

00:50:32.580 This is what I, that's what I always ask myself.

00:50:34.220 I said, do people really like my commentary or is it just cause I'm sexy?

00:50:38.680 It's so, it's just cause I'm hot, hot to trot.

00:50:41.180 It's so hard to be you.

00:50:42.780 It is hard.

00:50:43.280 I, I did, I did find this in Hollywood though.

00:50:45.140 I would go, I'd walk in, you know, to the big lots, knock on, knock on Mr. Weinstein's

00:50:51.020 door.

00:50:51.260 I say, Mr. Weinstein, I'm yours.

00:50:55.640 Dude, I'm here.

00:50:57.580 I'm here to be a big star.

00:50:59.040 And I don't know.

00:50:59.680 Then the door would slam in my face.

00:51:02.080 I'm really sorry that that happened to you.

00:51:03.840 I know.

00:51:04.180 I guess it's probably better.

00:51:05.100 It's probably good that the guy's behind bars now.

00:51:07.000 Probably.

00:51:07.560 It's probably good.

00:51:09.900 But I don't know if it helped my career.

00:51:12.160 I'm really sorry that that happened to you.

00:51:13.980 Truly, his rejection of you is the real crime.

00:51:16.660 That's it.

00:51:17.120 No.

00:51:17.260 On that note, Lauren, one last drink.

00:51:20.680 One last drink.

00:51:21.940 Cheers.

00:51:22.400 This was great.

00:51:23.220 Thank you.

00:51:23.780 To your health.

00:51:26.940 There's someone that you would like to see me play the game with.

00:51:29.740 Again, it has to be a man. 0.95

00:51:30.920 I'm glad we didn't break my rule.

00:51:32.820 Please leave it in the comments.

00:51:34.100 We'll see you next time on Yes or No.

00:51:36.040 We'll see you next time on Yes or No.

The Michael Knowles Show - June 04, 2022

Yes or No ｜ Lauren Southern

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