YES or NO： Tomi Lahren
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Summary
Yes or No is a game in which a man and a woman try to guess each other's answer to a yes or no question. The stakes are high and the stakes could not be higher. Today's guest is Tommy Lauren, a woman who needs no introduction.
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Does a woman's body count matter if she has truly changed her ways?
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Welcome to Yes or No, the bibulous battle to discover who knows whom better.
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My guest today, a woman who needs no introduction, Tommy Lauren.
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She will select her answer away from my prying eyes.
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Neither of us has seen the questions beforehand.
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I didn't know there would be cards and a board game involved.
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Well, it's a Tuesday at 2, and I'll be driving to Brentwood.
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You're going to tell on me to the whole audience out there.
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Sometimes we've had to film this at like 9 o'clock in the morning.
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I have been lightly briefed on the rules, so I hope that I don't mess it up.
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But it sounds like you might not be fully convinced of what we're doing either.
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Do most men assume that blondes are less intelligent than brunettes?
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I do think that men think, rightly or wrongly, they assume that if a girl is blonde, she's
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And I don't think it's about the blonde so much as the brunette.
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I would think, because when I, I'll tell you this, I go to New York, and I don't see
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any blondes there, any variation of blondes there.
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And for me, my perspective when I go there, it's completely different than in Nashville
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or Dallas or even California, where you have a mix of both, but you're going to
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see a blonde, you know, pretty good chance you're going to see a blonde.
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And to me, when I see a lot of brunettes, I don't assume that they are more intelligent,
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but they just don't seem like they're having as much fun.
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And I know that that's, again, that's a cliche.
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I just think it means that you take yourself maybe a little bit too seriously.
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That's just my perception because there's not a lot of blondes there, not a lot of redheads
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I don't know if that translates into intelligence.
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Professionally, personally, I like if people think I'm stupid, maybe on first glance.
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If you go in underestimating me, I would prefer that, right?
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But I also can have a smile on my face, be blonde, you know, enjoy it.
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My hair is actually darker than it normally is, by the way.
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But I find that blondes also appreciate maybe aesthetics more.
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But I don't find that people, maybe in New York, I don't think, you know, that maybe
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there is into aesthetics as Dallas, Nashville, California, Miami.
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It's much more plain, which is fine, but I've just noticed that.
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So we have to see what we mean by Asian drivers.
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That I think the stereotype is that Asian drivers are not very good at operating cars.
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You don't think there's a stereotype that the female pilots are a little weaker?
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I understand when the right makes arguments about DEI.
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I don't like that we went full DEI 2020 through 2024.
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However, I think that the right runs the risk of overusing DEI as an excuse for everything
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I think that immediately when something goes wrong, you go, oh, it must be a DEI hire.
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And I also, I know I don't care that our Secretary of Defense said the boys were coming home and
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But I think it would be fair to say we reportedly did have a female flying one of the B-2s that
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And so I think that's a testament to the skill of female pilots.
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I know that we, in principle, have female pilots.
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Female pilots, at least in the military, are often very revered.
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I don't like when you have certain airlines that are like, this is an all-female crew
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And this is an all, we must all have a gay crew and all that.
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Because if you're doing it and you're trying to assemble a crew to say that you did something
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But I am not one of those people that sees a female pilot and is then concerned.
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Would you say women are not as good at driving cars as men?
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If I am in a situation where I have to parallel park, I will leave.
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Because I know my limits and I'm not going to even attempt it.
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We have a video prompt, so we have to watch first.
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And here we've got another break is here as J.C. Sheldon goes right after Sophie Cunningham.
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What really got this escalated, so that was called a flagrant.
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And then Mabry for what we thought should have been.
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This is the most anyone has ever watched of the WNBA.
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Well, don't give away your answer then, because you have to lock it in.
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You kind of answered it, so that's why I already thought.
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Does this finally make the WNBA bearable to watch?
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Does it, does this, it's much more interesting than the basketball.
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I think you're supposed to lock in your answer and then pontificate.
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Does what you saw on that clip make it now bearable to watch the WNBA?
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This is a tough one, because we have spent on the right years now defending women's sports.
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I don't, I don't care about women's sports at all.
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I don't want transvestites doing weird stuff in the pool or whatever.
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But I don't, it is not possible for me to care less about women's sports.
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So I want there to be fairness, especially for young female athletes.
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Because whereas I don't think many are going to go professional,
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I think that it's an opportunity for them to build their skills, to work as a team,
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to try really hard, show determination, resilience.
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And I think past the college level, you know, let's be honest.
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There's not a lot for women after that, unless you're going to be an Olympian, which is great.
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I don't need to watch six foot four girls poking each other in the eye.
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I don't like men's basketball either, but I also wouldn't watch women's softball if they were fighting each other.
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Like I said, if I want to watch women fight, I will watch Bravo.
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It's better produced, more fun, more entertaining.
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But it's not, because the Libs will sometimes say, well, you guys are hypocrites because you don't care about women's sports.
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I think it's not about the, it's not about the volleyball or whatever.
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Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
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They're really making a meal out of a cupcake with these things, aren't they?
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Is there validity to the claim that we haven't seen the real Joe Biden in quite some time?
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If they made a fake Biden, why would they make that one?
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If it's going to be a body double, it has to be somebody that's exceptionally better than the real Joe.
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I liked the Joe Biden State of the Union where the eyes were just popping.
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I mean, a year ago this week, Joe Biden gave us the performance of a lifetime in that debate.
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Joe Biden is also on the speaking circuit now because he needs to make that money.
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But usually that presupposes that you can speak.
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I was at the State of the Union two years ago, the one where he was shot up real good with the adrenaline.
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And he, I remember, I was sitting behind the president's.
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And he got out there, and it was one note the whole time.
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It was just, you know, it goes 45 minutes or whatever it is.
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How much is he being paid for those speeches, do we know?
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I think, actually, I think it's a considerable amount.
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And then he's got riders that include travel, team, different things like that.
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I mean, good for him if people are still willing to pay him.
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I like it because it makes Democrats very nervous every time he surfaces, people have to cover it.
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Then their lie becomes more obvious, more vivid.
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And then they have to talk about it, and they have to talk about the fact that they lied.
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And quite obviously so for at least four years.
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Should people with religious beliefs that contradict American values be denied citizenship?
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Now, the way that it's worded, I think, gets us into more discussion needed.
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Does that mean you're chanting death to America, death to Israel, harassing Jewish students,
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Then I would say absolutely be denied citizenship.
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You just believe things that are incommensurate with the American, broadly Christian, founding ideals?
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I don't know if that would be very First Amendment of us.
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John Jay wrote around the founding and the Constitution.
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He said, thank God that we come from a common stock and we have a shared experience of the revolution
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And John Adams said, he said, the principles of Christianity are the principles on which independence was won.
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John Adams was not an Orthodox Christian by any chance or any stretch.
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But they all said, you know, this Christianity thing really matters.
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So, I don't want to single out the Muslims because I like some Muslims.
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But let's say a Zoroastrian comes here, some real nasty Zoroastrian, you know.
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And he just doesn't buy the principles on which our country is founded.
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Should we say, sorry, buddy, you don't need to be a church-going Christian,
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but you've got to get on board or you're going home to Persia?
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I don't know if you can legislate, dictate that.
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It's like everyone comes, wants to assimilate, wants to have American values.
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You would assume if you come here that you would have some desire to practice American values
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However, if you are a fundamentalist Muslim and you believe in Sharia,
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I would argue that contradicts American values.
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Yeah, I just don't think you can do it and be a constitutionalist, unfortunately.
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I agree it's hard to clear out Dearborn or whatever.
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But I'm saying they just, they show up fresh off the boat or whatever, however they get
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For me, President Michael, I would say, hello, nice, hello, nice to meet you.
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I think if you exhibit, and Secretary Rubio has been very forthright about this, if you
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exhibit behavior that shows that you are a threat, absolutely.
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But I don't know if, as a First Amendment person, I don't know if I could be someone that
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would say, well, you hold this religious belief so you can't be here.
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I think that, for me, that would be going too far.
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The rise of stay-at-home sons will only be fixed if RFK Jr. bans soy and other seed oils.
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That would mean that that condition would be necessary but not sufficient.
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So I'm not, we should have cleared this up before.
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It's not to say that RFK Jr. banning soy and seed oils would fix the problem.
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It's to say the problem would not be fixed if RFK does not ban soy and seed oils.
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So, again, the way that the question was worded, I'll just tell you my take on it.
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The rise of stay-at-home sons is not going to be solved by banning certain food items, certain soys, nothing.
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There's nothing that you can ban as far as consumption that's going to fix that.
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What if you banned pot, porn, and this is alliterative, what's a third P, and playthings like Legos?
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If you got, frankly, just porn, if you got rid of porn, I think you would go 40% toward fixing the problem.
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I think laziness fuels a lot of the reason that they want to stay home, they don't want to achieve necessarily.
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And I'm not talking, again, this is my biggest pet peeve, is there are some conservative men in our space that when I say those things, they go,
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No, what I'm saying is we have a cultural problem in which some young men, especially the generations that are coming up now, the alphas, the Gen Zs, right?
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There are a significant amount that do not want to achieve, attain, they don't want to be exceptional, they don't want to be masculine, they don't want to be leaders of family and household.
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Now, I get eviscerated for this, but when I say that women don't have much to choose from, I'm not saying women are perfect.
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We have plenty of cultural rot on the female side.
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Yeah, I'm talking about women who uphold their end of the bargain, that are looking for a man who is masculine, who wants to be leader of household.
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They are not finding the same swath that maybe they once could, because it doesn't exist.
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Okay, so then how do you, let's say, so the men don't want the women, because they say the women are all promiscuous and gold diggers.
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And the women don't want the men, because they say they're all man children, and they're degenerate, and they're mommy's boys.
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So you have this problem, you have a game of chicken.
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I think that the mega movement has done a lot for young men.
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I think the mega movement has done a lot to inspire young men to want to be leader of household, to be a provider, to be a stable man.
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And I don't think, by the way, that women are blameless in this.
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I think mothers might be a big part of the problem.
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Yeah, I've seen men of these generations ruined, ruined by over-mothering.
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I truly, if you said, pick the one thing that ruined that kid, I would say the mother was too indulgent.
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Now, again, every time I say this, the men on conservative Twitter come after me.
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I don't understand what's feminist about saying.
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Listen, I think Republicans are the new feminists because we're the only ones that stand up for women's sports and spaces.
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Well, would you say, I would say I'm not a feminist.
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They used to do this thing where they'd say, I like the second wave, but not the third wave.
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Or I like the first wave, but not the, I think it's all wrong.
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Because it seems to me feminism says men and women are basically the same.
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I think there's some things women do I can't do.
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Some things I can do that women generally can't do.
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We go to, it's just a different view of human nature.
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I mean, you're like famous and everything, you go on TV.
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But you hold to generally traditional views of men and women.
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So you're not, you wouldn't say you're a feminist, or would you?
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I would say in the, like I said, I think that Republicans are hijacking feminism the way that
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And I think that Republicans and conservatives are taking it back.
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Because to me, a feminist in 2025 means somebody who stands up for women's sports and spaces.
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So that to me, if that's how I'm defining it, which is, again, I'm saying we're taking it over.
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Now, here is where I sometimes butt heads with some of the, like I say, conservative Twitter,
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I don't believe that women should inherently make less, stay at home, live to be mothers.
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That's the extent of your personality, persona, identity.
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But if a mother wants to do that, you'd be fine with that.
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Then I believe in everybody being able to do what they want to do.
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As long as it doesn't negatively impact society at large, right?
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But doesn't it all, to me, it's a little libertarian.
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Doesn't it, doesn't it like the kids we were just talking about, the boys living in their
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mother's basement, they're doing what they want to do.
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They want to play video games, eat potato, eat chicken nuggets.
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It is, ostensibly, it's not impacting society at large.
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But it is, because you've got all these men who should be acting like men out of the
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So now the women are saying, well, I've got to pick from a bunch of losers and I don't
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So in a way, it's like there's almost no way to have a private sin.
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And we want the women to have the giga-chads that they can marry.
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But so, if you left women up to their devices, wouldn't most of them prefer to stay home,
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raise kids, get married, over working in a corporate job?
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For me, and again, they're going to eviscerate me for this.
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But aren't you, look, we're both friends with a lot of women who go on TV and who are
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But you would admit, and I'm, you know, I'm very close friends with many such women.
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Like I said, I think if you asked women, would you rather be a stay-at-home mom or would
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I'm not necessarily saying an executive, but would you rather exist in the business world?
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And I'm not saying that that means that if you exist in the business world that you're childless
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As you just said, not an executive, not a superstar.
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Either you're gonna stay home with your kid or you're gonna put your kid in daycare.
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And then you have to be up, because Fox and Friends is at 6 a.m. on the West Coast.
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But if you work to your full potential, you can afford to have help.
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Now, some people are like, oh, I didn't have a nanny.
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I believe that if you attain a certain level of success...
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I do not resent my mom for not staying home with me.
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And the other experience is, you know, mommy's come...
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You know, you come home and she's got brownies and whatever, does that thing.
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Meaning you can't do them both at the same time.
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You can't be baking brownies while you're taking the business call to do the merger and
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Now, I have a chance to recoup my losses because it is the rapid-fire round.
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Are you worried that eventually a new study will say zin is poison and possibly makes
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So, the first one, then I answer, then you guess how I would answer.
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I'm not worried because I know that that study will come out.
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They wouldn't, even if it were all scripted, you can't break up now.
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Does a woman's body count matter if she has truly changed her ways?
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Like, it matters because there are temporal effects owing to sin, even sins that are already
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So, like, I feel like I have views on this that irritate people for opposite reasons.
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Because I think, like, ultimately, no, you can just repent.
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But, like, there are temporal effects owing to sin and habituations and things that, like,
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Do you think it should bother women, though, equally?
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So, like, a guy, the reason that men, if they're Lotharios or Casanovas or something, are sometimes
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even admired for it, though they shouldn't be, and the reason why women are looked on
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as promiscuous and kind of dirty for it, is just because of the different natures of
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Like, a man pursues a woman, a woman is pursued.
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And so, it's, you know, it's more difficult for a man to sleep with other women.
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It's easy for a woman to sleep with a lot of men.
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And so, the woman has to be on guard to protect her modesty, whereas the man, if he's going
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to be a Lothario, has to try to chase the women.
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I would say, I think it's also unattractive to date somebody who has a very high body count.
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But, as a woman, I find it equally gross if a man has a high body count.
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Like, if a guy, what if he changed his ways, though?
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Well, because if I would have married my husband when he was 25, it would not have worked out.
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So, not that I love it, but if I'm looking at it logically, with emotions removed, I prefer that.
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Now, let's say, okay, I totally get that, and I see a fair bit of it.
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Now, would he like it if I was previously married?
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Now, do you think he's hypocritical for that stance?
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We don't like the idea of ever even imagining that our wives have ever looked at another man outside of perhaps her father and grandfather.
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Now, your argument is you want the guy to have made the mistakes.
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If he's going to make them, you want him to make the mistakes and learn from them and be ready for you.
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But isn't it, it'd be best if the person just didn't make a bunch of mistakes.
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I don't think that's the human experience, to be honest with you.
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I think men between the ages of 20 and 30 are not ready, in most cases, for marriage.
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But to your exception and rule analogy that you used earlier, again, I think that men between the ages of 20 and 30 are usually not ready to be husbands and fathers.
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No, I would actually, back to your point, I think it's a biological thing.
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You think it was an exception in their personalities or in the time they grew up?
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I do feel, though, that at least operating in 2025.
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But so, you know, the reason that our grandparents could all get married at 22 or whatever, and most of the time it worked out, the divorce rates were much lower, and things were generally better, speaks to the fact that there was a culture that was more habituated to virtuous behavior, not vicious behavior.
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So, where I agree that, you know, I want to get the bad stuff out of my system, learn from my mistakes, change my ways, repent, usually in your 20s is kind of when it happens now.
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Ideally, you and your husband would have met, you would have come up in a culture that wasn't as confused as 2025, and you would have not been inclined toward all those mistakes that our culture inclines us toward, and you would have gotten married at 22.
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First of all, I would have never wanted to get married at age 22.
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22-year-old me and 32-year-old me are completely different human beings.
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But I'm saying, what if you grew up in, you know, 1943?
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Well, then people would have been in World War II.
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Do you think that some people, though, in that, not just generation, but generations, yes, I would agree with you, that marriage is long-lasting, more virtuous behavior?
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However, how many of those marriages should there have been a divorce and they were just too proud not to get a divorce?
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We all know certain grandparents that have been together for 60 years and they probably shouldn't have made it past 10.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, right, and it wouldn't have in today's culture.
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But when you say 22-year-old Tommy and 30-year-old Tommy are totally different creatures, of course, but, and therefore 22-year-old Tommy shouldn't have married 23-year-old or whatever, your husband.
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Could there have been a world in which 22-year-old Tommy could have had all the success and all the great stuff but also been excited and ready to get married?
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I started, first of all, I started when I was 21.
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But I was not ready at that time to settle down.
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And I was not ready until I was 28 when I met my husband.
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It would not have worked because I didn't want that.
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I mean, one of my few regrets, I was actually talking to, I've talked to a lot of people who are actually fairly prominent in public life.
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But I won't say their names and embarrass them.
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But people have told me, you know, one of my big regrets, I hear this a lot, I wish I'd gotten married younger.
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And I think, look, in the scope of Providence, it all works out as God wants.
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So I'm not, I don't stay up at night over this.
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If I was ready to get married at 28, why wasn't I ready to get married at 22, 23?
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Because I wanted to go stay out later at more bars, carouse.
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I'm going to tell you, here's a reality show reference for you.
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I don't know if you've watched The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives or not, but these young ladies get married at age 22 to their husbands that are 22.
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And it doesn't work out because they cheat on each other.
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You're not going to hear the stories of the people who have a good marriage.
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I don't think that, exception in rule again, there's always exceptions to the rule.
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I don't think many people who get married very young and have kids very young, I think that they probably experience some level of angst.
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And whether they're honest about it, I don't know.
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Whether they won't admit it to themselves until they're 55, perhaps.
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I know people who got married in 1920, spit out six kids, couldn't be happier.
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And I think that's how society worked for a long time.
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But to your point, you know, I was an atheist for 10 years.
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And it is helpful to me now that I was single for some years, that I was an atheist, that I was a libertarian.
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It's also harmful, because you have the scars of bad habits.
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But it's helpful in the sense that there ain't no greener grass on the other side.
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But can't you—I guess the ultimate question we're talking about here is, does one have to make mistakes?
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I think we're fallible humans and we make mistakes.
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What about Jim Mattis, the general, former Defense Secretary under Trump, one?
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He said, I read a lot of books so that other people make mistakes for me.
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So I don't need to make those mistakes that they made.
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But would you avoid—like, tomorrow, not to belabor the point, but if you said there's some terrible mistake you could make tomorrow.
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Would you still choose to make the mistake so you're better for it and stronger for it?
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I don't think you make mistakes knowing that you're about to make a mistake.
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I think it's the hindsight that provides that knowledge.
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If growing up, you know, you said, hey, here's a—
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If you could tell me, hey, you could go back to when you were with so-and-so.
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You could have eliminated these three guys and gone straight to your husband.
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You had led me on to say you were going to say yes.
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No, because I learned and I grew from all of them.
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It's everything that was needed to me to get to the point that I was, that I was ready
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to get married, and that I know that now I'm sick.
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There were some girls I might have taken off—you know, I might have gotten off the list.
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Do men who never go to the gym have any grounds to advocate that women should stay in shape?
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I'd say some of us actually do have grounds because we're rational creatures and we don't
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have to go lift weights to—anyway, that's fine.
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Is there a good argument for bringing back public executions?
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Would you sooner attend—would you—wow, that's a good question.
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Would you sooner attend a women's march or a march for life?
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The phrasing is, would you sooner attend a women's march than a march for life?
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Would you sooner attend a women's march than a march for life?
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People never know which way I'm going to go on these.
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First of all, the pro-life people are going to smell and look better.
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If I'm going to put myself into a crowd, which I hate anyway, I'm going to be honest, too.
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I don't even like to work out with other people near me.
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The last thing I'm going to do is put myself in a march.
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I don't even like to go to concerts and sit in general public.
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I wouldn't be at a law enforcement march either.
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People often get my position on this very, very confused.
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I am pro-choice, but I'm not personally pro-choice.
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If the pro-life message is we want to preserve life, and we want to encourage people to preserve life, I'm with you.
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But as a matter of law, if you want to abort your kid, you can.
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You're never going to catch me advocating for that, even for a, like, limited government perspective.
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It's not saying that it's not important, that it's not a life.
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It's me saying, does the government—and actually, we're in the anniversary of the repeal of Roe v. Wade, right?
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And there's more abortions now than before they repealed the damn thing.
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That's like 75% of the abortion pill now, which is a technological change.
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But I—look, I grant, there have been, at the state level, laws since—because the repeal just said, go to the states.
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There are now certain states that say, yeah, we're going to have abortion up until the moment of birth.
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And there are some, like Tennessee, that say pretty much nothing.
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I don't believe that the government solves the problem.
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You criminalize when you murder because you do it with the intent.
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I—when I believe that women are in that position, that they are getting an abortion, I believe more often than not—
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I don't believe that they do it because they are going to murder.
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There's a crowd for that, and it's a disgusting crowd.
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But I don't believe that it solves the problem.
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Faith, family—I don't—because I don't believe you're going to not get an abortion because the government says, okay, we have an all-out abortion.
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Now, there were always some illegal abortions, but not many compared to the legal ones.
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So I'm just saying, look, whatever your view on abortion is, it's one thing.
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I'm just saying, if you're willing to use the government to enforce laws about taxes, driving, homicide, manslaughter and murder, whatever, incest, simple assault, drinking underage, all—you know, we have laws about everything.
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Why is this the one thing we can't have a law about?
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And again, late term, we're not talking about late term.
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Like I said, women that are in that position, I don't believe that they're doing it.
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When you don't pay your taxes, murder somebody—
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Manslaughter, you don't have an intent to kill someone.
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You just do it accidentally or, you know, in passion or something.
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Well, usually you made a pretty egregious mistake.
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I just don't think that the government solves the problem.
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If you want women to choose life, if you want women to either choose life and choose to adopt or choose to be a mother, I believe that you don't do that by government mandate.
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I believe you do that by faith, fellowship, family, friendship.
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I think that's the area that you provide love and compassion to somebody.
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Now, but you would still go to the March for Life over the Women's March.
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I wouldn't go to any march, but I have no problem with a pro-life march.
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It's not like I look at it and go, oh, no, no, no.
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And I love that they want to preach pro-life values.
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Now, I don't believe in a federal abortion ban, but I believe in a pro-life message.
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And I believe that we have been led to believe that you can't believe both things.
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And I think that the majority of Americans believe both things.
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Is Jojo Siwa just the first of many influencers who will soon discover that they were pressured
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You told me that, but you saw that I moved so fast.
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That you believe, and I have to guess what you believe.
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I shouldn't have moved so fast, because Tommy obviously got it right.
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If it's culturally acceptable for black women to dye their hair blonde, should it also...
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If it's culturally acceptable for black women to dye their hair blonde, should it also be
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culturally acceptable for white people to wear blackface?
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You have to lock yours in first, and then I've got to guess.
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So, I have an answer in my head that I think you would answer, but you've been faking me
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I remember once, there was some blackface controversy that came up.
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It was like Jimmy Fallon dressed up as Chris Rock or something.
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If you're doing it to be really cruel to any racial group, I think that's quite wrong to be cruel and rude.
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But if you're just sort of having fun, it's fine.
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I think the Waynes brothers can put on whiteface.
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Billy Kersands was the great genius of minstrelsy.
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That one's going to get me in a lot of trouble.
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I don't think that you're correct, that I don't think many care as much as the loud voices that decry it.
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It just does not seem worth it to me to be canceled for that.
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That's like, I don't have that desire that badly.
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As a Sicilian, we're basically African ourselves.
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So if I were Lily White, I might have a different answer.
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