The Michael Knowles Show - YES or NO with Candace Owens

00:00:00.000 Men who don't work out are like women who cry on TikTok after their pet bunny dies. 0.93

00:00:04.220 It's disordered, weak, and hard to look at.

00:00:07.360 That's just funny.

00:00:25.860 When women are pregnant, they eat for two. 1.00

00:00:28.560 When my female friends are pregnant, I drink for two, as I will today on this episode of 0.99

00:00:35.500 The Yes or No Game with my friend, Candace Owens.

00:00:39.060 Now, before we get to my guest, you've got to order this game. 0.86

00:00:44.640 The Yes or No Game is available right now.

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00:00:58.480 Now, I will figure out which of my friend and loved one knows the other one better right

00:01:06.280 now.

00:01:07.400 I just want to be forthcoming.

00:01:08.300 I am a sore loser.

00:01:09.440 I know.

00:01:09.800 So I will flip the table.

00:01:11.240 Yeah, I believe it.

00:01:12.180 If the results are not that I win.

00:01:13.240 But you're going to have one advantage, which is, I think this is non-alcoholic.

00:01:18.380 Oh, I thought you were going to say people will be understanding because I'm pregnant.

00:01:20.620 Yeah, no, that's true also.

00:01:24.280 But I think it's non-alcoholic.

00:01:26.000 Otherwise, your baby number three will just have a lovely time in your room today. 0.93

00:01:32.140 Do you know the rules?

00:01:33.640 I know the rules.

00:01:34.460 Okay.

00:01:35.120 Ish.

00:01:35.560 And you know, that's how I feel too.

00:01:37.300 Yeah.

00:01:37.820 You know, ladies go first. 1.00

00:01:38.940 Okay.

00:01:39.460 You take the first card.

00:01:40.500 Okay.

00:01:41.380 Do I read this out loud?

00:01:42.340 Yeah.

00:01:42.580 Okay, good.

00:01:45.920 Princess Diana's death was an accident.

00:01:50.300 It's such a good one.

00:01:52.160 Yeah.

00:01:52.500 Who does this one? 0.99

00:01:53.040 Such a good one because it's so obvious.

00:01:56.760 Okay, ready?

00:01:57.560 Now you take mine.

00:01:58.480 What I think you're going to say?

00:01:59.640 One, two, three.

00:02:06.580 Awful convenient, that tunnel in Paris.

00:02:08.560 Awful convenient.

00:02:11.320 Did I get your guess right?

00:02:12.520 No.

00:02:13.120 You think it was an accident?

00:02:14.040 I'm like the biggest conspiracy theorist, but like I actually think that one might have

00:02:17.540 just been an accident.

00:02:18.100 Is it just because you're friends with the Windsors?

00:02:19.960 No.

00:02:20.400 No.

00:02:20.960 Yeah?

00:02:21.300 It's just strange.

00:02:21.700 Prince Philip's gone.

00:02:22.580 You don't need to protect him anymore.

00:02:24.660 It's weird.

00:02:25.600 You know what it is?

00:02:26.160 I think I haven't looked into that one enough, but, and I just have memories when I was a

00:02:30.860 kid of that happening and everyone being like, it was an accident.

00:02:33.940 And I just accepted the truth.

00:02:36.040 Yeah.

00:02:36.220 I accepted that the mainstream media was telling me the truth.

00:02:38.440 Yeah.

00:02:38.720 They, they would never lie to you.

00:02:40.020 They, they would never lie.

00:02:41.060 Of course.

00:02:41.380 And the thing is, her, her, uh, continued existence only threatened the, uh, last major

00:02:48.020 monarchy in the West, right?

00:02:50.220 Is that, is that the theory?

00:02:51.320 Well, I don't know.

00:02:52.760 She was, you know, it's kind of weird for your future queen to be divorced from the future

00:02:56.520 king.

00:02:57.140 And then for her to be shacking up with some like Arab guy. 1.00

00:03:00.360 I don't know.

00:03:00.940 It's just a little odd.

00:03:01.580 I think the Arab guy's Prince Harry's dad, though.

00:03:06.220 Now that's a theory I had not heard.

00:03:08.320 See, the red hair, it's, uh, it's, uh, from Genghis Khan, actually.

00:03:12.200 It's from the Arab guys. 0.99

00:03:12.760 It's recessive.

00:03:13.380 Okay.

00:03:13.780 So now I go.

00:03:16.540 Given that they make up only 6% of the population and are responsible for 65% of all related

00:03:22.980 deaths, pit bulls should be outlawed as pets.

00:03:26.920 A little edgy, fellas.

00:03:27.740 Ooh, wow.

00:03:28.580 A little edgy out there.

00:03:30.260 Outlawed as pets.

00:03:32.460 Yes.

00:03:35.400 I gotta think about your answer.

00:03:37.080 Okay.

00:03:37.880 Let's go.

00:03:40.220 Oh, wait.

00:03:40.880 I go this way.

00:03:43.640 Correct.

00:03:44.680 That's correct.

00:03:45.860 I would say no.

00:03:47.500 Really?

00:03:48.020 You don't?

00:03:48.440 You're fine with pit bulls?

00:03:49.600 No, no, no.

00:03:49.900 I'm not fine with pit bulls at all.

00:03:51.160 But I think if you outlaw it, it just brings into question a lot of other things that we'd

00:03:56.960 have to consider more deeply.

00:03:58.880 And, um, I, I would say, I think people should not own pit bulls.

00:04:03.620 I am so against pit bulls.

00:04:04.700 For sure.

00:04:04.940 I think it is ridiculous when people are like, it's pentagonia owner.

00:04:07.980 It's like, how many more stories can the people that said it depends on the owner

00:04:10.140 then get eaten by the pit bulls?

00:04:11.160 Yeah, yeah.

00:04:11.720 No, it's always, it's always the owner.

00:04:13.920 It's always the owner.

00:04:14.380 No, it's not the owner.

00:04:15.120 Except that.

00:04:15.520 It's like an aggressive dog.

00:04:16.580 I am a special, I think, I would offer that I do think it should be outlawed around children.

00:04:20.960 Like, I think when you have a small child and you have a pit bull, it should be outlawed.

00:04:24.220 You should not be allowed to have a pit bull with a small child.

00:04:25.440 But then what if, let's say it's just a single guy and he's got a pit bull, he's going to take

00:04:28.720 the dog for a walk.

00:04:29.720 You're going to go to the park.

00:04:30.560 Yeah, well.

00:04:31.260 And there's going to be kids at the park.

00:04:32.140 But you could, you could, is he going to take the park?

00:04:36.460 Well, also now, if he goes to one of these millennial parks, it's just only dogs. 0.96

00:04:40.260 It's only millennials and dogs. 1.00

00:04:41.560 Right, yeah.

00:04:42.400 Yeah, maybe in like certain places too, like in New York City where there's just like a

00:04:46.000 lot of humans.

00:04:46.920 But I guess if you're like living in Columbia, Tennessee and you've got like 800 acres, I

00:04:52.100 mean, what's it going to kill a deer?

00:04:53.620 Yeah, if you're in the steplands of Central Asia, you can have a pit bull. 0.97

00:04:56.600 You can have a pit bull, yeah. 0.77

00:04:57.620 But I just think it's ridiculous that people, like I think we should be able to

00:05:00.540 should be responsible enough to stop buying pit bulls and especially putting them around

00:05:05.220 small children because the truth is, is they're just aggressive.

00:05:07.180 I mean, I just read a story about one got off the leash and ran across the street and

00:05:10.400 killed somebody's dog and then walled someone's face.

00:05:12.380 I'm just like, every day there's a new story.

00:05:13.800 And you look at the statistics and it's like, it's telling a story.

00:05:16.200 They're like, no, it's the owner.

00:05:17.040 I'm like, is everybody, everybody who's got a pit bull is just training their pit bulls

00:05:20.620 to do these things?

00:05:21.140 Also, the thing that they forget about, they're anthropomorphizing dogs in a way that is only

00:05:27.640 going to get worse as millennials treat their dogs as children.

00:05:29.980 But dogs don't have a reason.

00:05:33.640 So it's true if you train a dog in a bad way, the dog is going to maybe behave worse than

00:05:38.620 if you train him in a good way.

00:05:40.020 But it's not as though the dog can reason about abstract things like justice and the morality

00:05:44.540 of chomping on a little toddler or something like that.

00:05:46.880 So you just, you can't blame the dog.

00:05:49.980 You can't blame the pit bull when he eats the toddler. 0.83

00:05:52.540 That's his instinct.

00:05:53.820 That's his genetics.

00:05:54.320 And especially because as they age, all dogs and cats get ornery anyways.

00:05:58.140 Do you know what I mean?

00:05:58.620 Like my cat, as she got older, she was just like less tolerant and like she swiped once.

00:06:02.880 Never has ever even hissed at me nothing.

00:06:04.860 But then my baby was born and he was pulling at her and she just swipes like she's an animal.

00:06:09.400 You know what I mean?

00:06:09.840 So her instinct when something's pulling at her face is to swipe.

00:06:12.560 And I think people are completely deluded when it comes to pit bulls.

00:06:14.620 They did a whole episode on this.

00:06:15.460 But I would stop short of saying to outlaw them because I think there are probably deeper

00:06:20.960 considerations there.

00:06:22.960 It might be a slippery slope.

00:06:24.600 Like a libertarian kind of thing?

00:06:26.080 You just, you're no libertarian.

00:06:27.920 I'm definitely not a libertarian.

00:06:29.100 I just, I have to, I have to think about that one.

00:06:30.700 Okay.

00:06:31.080 All right.

00:06:31.600 All right.

00:06:31.960 Well, I'll drink anyway.

00:06:33.180 I don't.

00:06:33.340 No, you have to drink.

00:06:34.000 It's unclear.

00:06:34.360 You have to take a big, you have to take a big, I don't even know me.

00:06:36.540 I'll take a little gulp.

00:06:37.440 Yeah.

00:06:37.460 Big sip.

00:06:37.580 Okay.

00:06:38.860 I might change my mind on Princess Diana.

00:06:40.740 So I might have you throw that back up.

00:06:44.080 Throw up.

00:06:44.600 All right.

00:06:45.480 And I'll move your card too.

00:06:46.640 We have a nice little discard pile.

00:06:52.440 My team is hotter than your team.

00:06:57.740 This is not taking a lot of thought for me.

00:07:00.480 I think that you would have to agree.

00:07:04.140 Yeah.

00:07:04.400 I mean, do I have eyes?

00:07:05.400 Yeah, exactly.

00:07:05.940 And reason?

00:07:06.820 And two brain cells to rub together? 0.59

00:07:08.740 Yeah, obviously.

00:07:09.660 My team is hotter than your team.

00:07:11.120 And who are you going to compare?

00:07:12.160 I've got Mr. Davies and Producer Jacob.

00:07:14.860 Guys, guys.

00:07:15.360 Nobody needs that.

00:07:15.940 I've got girls. 0.99

00:07:17.240 Like, that was a very easy one.

00:07:18.520 That was a very simple one.

00:07:19.620 So if you get it right, do I drink?

00:07:21.460 I always play by the rule.

00:07:23.480 If you get it wrong, you have to drink.

00:07:25.320 Okay.

00:07:25.520 If you get it right, you get to drink.

00:07:26.520 Well, I'm betting whatever it is you bet.

00:07:28.340 You're betting a thousand.

00:07:29.380 Yeah.

00:07:30.220 When you're doing really well.

00:07:33.260 Those are...

00:07:33.880 Oh, okay.

00:07:34.880 That's me.

00:07:36.060 I just know you so well.

00:07:37.400 You do know me so well.

00:07:38.460 Listen, I'm an open book.

00:07:39.500 Yeah.

00:07:39.960 But you, you're a mystery wrapped in an anemia.

00:07:41.920 I am.

00:07:42.200 Even after all these years, I still...

00:07:44.840 Unless you're a total lib, it's clear that women should keep it zipped while at church. 1.00

00:07:53.500 Okay.

00:07:54.040 Really interesting diction.

00:07:55.320 Yeah.

00:07:55.600 I like the way it's being presented.

00:07:57.020 I forgot to bring this back.

00:07:58.180 Unless you're a total lib, women should keep it zipped at church. 1.00

00:08:08.820 I would say because of the wording, actually, of the statement.

00:08:13.800 No, it's perfectly right.

00:08:14.840 But for women to take part in the solemn high mass, in the Salve Regina, in some of the

00:08:21.920 chanting, in some of the responses, you know, et cum spiritutuo, that sort of...

00:08:27.200 No, I'm not...

00:08:27.540 They shouldn't be preaching or doing any of these parading rituals.

00:08:31.500 That's what I was thinking.

00:08:32.180 I thought they were preaching, which is why I would say yes.

00:08:34.780 Obviously, yeah.

00:08:35.600 Obviously, they shouldn't be.

00:08:36.380 Yeah.

00:08:36.660 They should not be preaching.

00:08:37.840 But they...

00:08:39.000 Should they speak at all in the church?

00:08:40.420 Should they speak at all?

00:08:41.180 Probably the wider question.

00:08:42.460 Now, in the low mass?

00:08:43.800 Yeah.

00:08:43.980 They should not.

00:08:44.920 But really, nobody should.

00:08:46.160 Yeah.

00:08:46.500 You got me right on that one.

00:08:47.960 Okay.

00:08:48.260 You got me right on that one.

00:08:49.120 But should they preach?

00:08:50.400 Absolutely not.

00:08:51.180 Absolutely.

00:08:51.620 Under no circumstances.

00:08:52.380 It's just the most absurd thing ever.

00:08:54.300 And it's part of the reason why I have a lot of questions about Protestantism.

00:08:59.260 There's a lot of that going on.

00:09:02.040 Yeah.

00:09:02.520 You're on a journey.

00:09:03.840 I'm on a journey.

00:09:04.640 You're on a journey.

00:09:05.060 That's what I would say.

00:09:05.920 Aren't we all?

00:09:06.780 Aren't we all?

00:09:08.240 Okay.

00:09:09.240 Wasn't there a big...

00:09:09.860 There was a big split with the Baptists over this.

00:09:11.920 There was.

00:09:12.460 There's one of the big Baptists. 0.85

00:09:13.580 Yeah, huge.

00:09:13.960 Out in LA.

00:09:15.020 Yeah, he...

00:09:15.620 Mega church.

00:09:16.240 I thought he was a conservative guy, but then he was promoting priestesses.

00:09:19.200 Suddenly, he said priestesses are a thing, and he apologized to women.

00:09:22.820 And I just thought to myself, this is how we're going to end up with homosexuals in the church. 1.00

00:09:26.380 For sure.

00:09:26.740 He's always going to say, I read the scripture, and I've done research, and actually, it's totally

00:09:29.740 fine to be a homosexual. 0.80

00:09:31.220 Yeah.

00:09:31.400 And lead a church, and it's totally fine to be trans.

00:09:35.360 Once you start seeing how you interpret the scripture, it becomes very problematic very

00:09:40.420 fast.

00:09:40.760 And that is the reason why Methodist churches are flying the LGBTQ, I don't know how many 1.00

00:09:46.240 letters they've tacked on since, flag.

00:09:48.460 No, the main line is completely gone.

00:09:50.440 My priest in New York, a great friend of mine, was an Episcopalian priest.

00:09:53.920 He became a Catholic priest over this priestesses thing back in the 70s.

00:09:57.780 And I said, oh, a friend of mine might become an Anglican priest.

00:10:00.460 And he said, Michael, that's not like rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.

00:10:04.080 It's like grabbing hold as the Titanic goes all the way down.

00:10:07.820 And so all the main line is gone.

00:10:09.760 But I thought the evangelicals and the Baptists and things like that, the low churches, I thought

00:10:15.200 among Protestants, I thought they were doing relatively better.

00:10:18.360 But then all this stuff starts infecting them, too.

00:10:21.320 Yeah.

00:10:21.480 Well, yeah.

00:10:22.100 To be fair, when they took a vote...

00:10:26.240 Oh, they booted the guy out.

00:10:27.200 Yeah, they did boot him out.

00:10:28.240 Yeah.

00:10:28.340 So there is that.

00:10:29.740 But the margins were not 100%.

00:10:33.260 I mean, it was literally like, I think, I don't know, maybe something like 15 of the

00:10:37.960 churches voted like, yes, they should still stay in.

00:10:40.600 And I was like, this is a problem.

00:10:41.880 Even the vote is a problem.

00:10:43.220 On the basis of your vote, if you voted yes, they should stay in, you should be kicked out.

00:10:46.700 And the feminists frame it as, unless we have the women take over all these traditionally 1.00

00:10:53.960 male spaces, you're going to have weak women. 1.00

00:10:55.980 And I think a weak women, like all the great female saints of the church, like St. 1.00

00:11:01.260 Lucy, like Teresa of Avila, all the really strong modern women, present company, I'm not 0.99

00:11:06.940 flattering you, present company very much included, compared to what?

00:11:10.220 It's some like shrieky little feminist or something. 1.00

00:11:12.520 Give me a break.

00:11:13.040 Well, I'm just saying women in leadership roles in general, whether it's even women casting 0.98

00:11:17.540 ballots and voting, becomes problematic because we vote emotionally and every problem that

00:11:23.820 we have today.

00:11:24.500 The women open the door to the gays and lesbians and trans. 1.00

00:11:27.800 Like, who do you think is behind the transgender? 0.99

00:11:29.740 Well, we're going to feel bad for them.

00:11:30.740 It's us.

00:11:31.320 Right.

00:11:31.540 And it's because, by the way, it's a good thing that we're more emotional.

00:11:34.100 It works for a lot of reasons to strength.

00:11:36.440 Emotionality is a strength, especially in the household.

00:11:38.480 Oh, yeah.

00:11:38.800 I talk about this the whole time on my show.

00:11:40.620 But then outside of the household, it's not necessarily a good thing.

00:11:44.420 You need to have people that are willing to stand up and draw a definitive line and say,

00:11:48.840 this can't happen.

00:11:49.560 And I think the greatest recent example of that is the Bud Light scandal.

00:11:53.740 Like Dylan Mulvaney was just like prancing around.

00:11:55.840 He was in all of these female spaces. 0.98

00:11:57.840 Women were like, I'm not going to say anything. 1.00

00:11:59.440 Right.

00:11:59.560 It's like, ladies, stand up for yourself. 0.97

00:12:01.480 He feels like a woman. 0.97

00:12:02.540 You know, it's like, whatever.

00:12:04.140 Literally just watching ourselves be eradicated.

00:12:06.360 And then, like, he opens one solitary can of beer.

00:12:10.180 And now you've got Kid Rock exploding beer cans.

00:12:14.340 All that.

00:12:14.560 They're done.

00:12:15.200 John Rich.

00:12:15.820 Yeah, they're just like, no, no, no.

00:12:16.860 This is done.

00:12:17.520 Like, it's banned from, but men just don't tolerate that.

00:12:19.300 And so that is kind of a present-day example of why women in leadership positions, you know, 1.00

00:12:27.580 we bend.

00:12:28.260 We bend.

00:12:28.980 Right.

00:12:29.140 And you're so right, just even historically how this works, because when you had feminism

00:12:35.620 really come to the fore in the 70s, late 60s, early 70s, immediately afterward, you had

00:12:40.780 all of the rainbow LGBT stuff, and then that culminates in transgenderism.

00:12:45.100 And it happens because feminism says men and women are the same. 0.99

00:12:48.940 Well, if men and women are the same, then a boyfriend and a boyfriend is the same as

00:12:53.080 a girlfriend and a boyfriend is the same as, and a husband and a wife is the same as

00:12:56.860 a husband and a husband.

00:12:57.600 It all just kind of blends together.

00:12:59.500 Right.

00:12:59.820 Now, you know, to your point on your very provocative comment about women voting, there is a whole

00:13:05.740 part of history that was written out, which is the women who opposed women's suffrage. 0.66

00:13:11.500 And they wrote at length about this, and they spoke at length about this, and it was the

00:13:16.040 majority of women, actually. 1.00

00:13:17.620 Yeah, I know.

00:13:17.920 People don't know that.

00:13:18.520 And today, you know, it's over.

00:13:23.260 You know, clearly, it's not a live debate.

00:13:26.400 But it is rather misogynistic to not take those women seriously and say, oh, they were

00:13:32.300 just a bunch of stupid, dumb housewives. 1.00

00:13:34.060 Like, I don't know.

00:13:34.640 You've gone with the minority on this, which is kind of interesting.

00:13:37.260 Yeah, right, right.

00:13:37.760 Yeah, and you see it now.

00:13:38.960 You see the results of that.

00:13:40.100 A lot of things that are happening in the society.

00:13:41.440 Actually, it was very funny.

00:13:42.960 I tweeted, because I was thinking about doing this whole episode about whether or not women, 0.99

00:13:46.220 have we been responsible with our vote?

00:13:47.820 I said, not should we have the right to vote.

00:13:49.660 Have we been responsible?

00:13:50.540 And I said, we're working on an episode.

00:13:53.760 Can you name one thing in society that has gotten better since women have gotten the right 1.00

00:13:57.780 to vote?

00:13:58.480 And no women were able to answer the question because they were too emotional about the 0.99

00:14:02.460 question being asked.

00:14:03.480 I was like, this is all the proof I need.

00:14:04.660 They were like, how dare you ask this question?

00:14:07.400 How could you say this?

00:14:08.840 I'm like, guys, I have not said an answer here with something implied.

00:14:11.920 I'm asking you, if there's plenty of stuff that have gotten better, just write it in

00:14:15.400 the comment section.

00:14:16.480 No one could even gather themselves because the question made them so emotional.

00:14:21.400 And therein lied my answer.

00:14:23.260 I'll tell you, I've had two friends in my life who are people I really respected who

00:14:29.100 questioned the 19th Amendment.

00:14:31.860 It's you and Ann Coulter.

00:14:32.980 Yeah.

00:14:33.400 Well, yes.

00:14:34.040 Both very sharp ladies. 0.98

00:14:35.260 Both women and both very sharp.

00:14:36.760 Yeah.

00:14:36.940 Currently, if going up against the Trumpers, the Ramaswamy Mommies actually have a better 1.00

00:14:44.340 chance of getting their guy in the White House than the DeSimps do.

00:14:48.420 Yes or no?

00:14:49.840 In the primary, against the Trumpers, who does better?

00:14:56.200 The Ramaswamy Mommies. 1.00

00:14:58.040 First, I've heard that term, but I'm liking that.

00:14:59.880 That's quite a term.

00:15:00.360 I'm liking that.

00:15:01.140 Or the DeSimps.

00:15:02.440 The Ramaswamy Mommies seems kind of nice. 1.00

00:15:04.020 The DeSimps, it seems not...

00:15:05.160 It seems a little derogatory.

00:15:05.900 Yeah.

00:15:06.000 I didn't write this.

00:15:06.720 I just want to be very clear.

00:15:07.140 This is a...

00:15:07.720 Someone has a bias.

00:15:08.480 Somebody.

00:15:09.000 Somebody.

00:15:10.060 Okay.

00:15:10.740 Okay.

00:15:10.940 Okay.

00:15:11.000 You're putting me over here on your side?

00:15:18.740 I don't know how this works.

00:15:19.380 What are you...

00:15:19.740 You've got to do it on...

00:15:20.420 I'm either saying yes or no.

00:15:21.920 So you're going to go say no.

00:15:22.760 Okay.

00:15:23.440 At least I was on no.

00:15:24.600 At least I had like, you know, generally speaking, there's two yeses.

00:15:27.000 You probably just need one on this table.

00:15:28.640 You only...

00:15:29.540 So you're right.

00:15:31.160 That's true.

00:15:31.620 Yeah, you just need one yes and one no.

00:15:33.180 That's for the designers.

00:15:34.520 That's great.

00:15:34.760 So I said that you would say that the Ramaswamy Mommies have a better shot than the DeSimps. 1.00

00:15:42.560 That is correct.

00:15:43.200 I would say absolutely.

00:15:44.360 And I...

00:15:45.040 You got me right.

00:15:45.820 Yeah.

00:15:46.200 I felt you right.

00:15:46.400 I think the DeSimps have a better shot than the Ramaswamy Mommies. 1.00

00:15:48.780 I think the DeSimps are just... 0.99

00:15:51.220 The comms team, they're not likable.

00:15:54.220 They...

00:15:54.740 It is really...

00:15:55.880 Actually, you tweeted this, I think, yesterday.

00:15:57.100 I did.

00:15:57.480 But I tweeted it like three weeks ago.

00:15:58.580 I just saw it and I was like, their team has completely crushed its chances.

00:16:02.980 And it's because they're so angry.

00:16:04.100 They're so angry at the Trumpers, but they're angry at like 0.000017% of people that are

00:16:12.960 young at them online.

00:16:13.980 Yes.

00:16:14.220 And they're like basically making every person that supports Trump guilty of the sins of

00:16:19.880 maybe four people that they're fighting online.

00:16:22.200 And it's actually making them lose.

00:16:24.120 Like they need Trump support.

00:16:25.460 It's just prudentially, it's insane.

00:16:27.380 It's not that I thought you were wrong when you made this point.

00:16:30.100 It's not...

00:16:30.700 I was a little skeptical because I had never experienced it firsthand.

00:16:33.560 No.

00:16:33.700 And then this happened to me yesterday because I tweeted out, it was after they all got upset

00:16:40.100 that Trump said that Xi Jinping is an impressive leader.

00:16:43.560 And I said, look, one, he's just bragging about how he beat an impressive leader at a trade deal.

00:16:48.200 But two, there is a strain of conservatism that kind of admires Xi Jinping because he keeps his

00:16:53.780 country in order and because he governs, according to some conception, albeit perhaps

00:16:58.280 misguided, of the common good.

00:16:59.420 And that's not the libertarian kind of right wing stuff.

00:17:02.480 But there is a strain of traditional conservative thought that kind of admires strong leaders who keep their country together.

00:17:08.080 Yeah.

00:17:08.260 Sort of like people that admire Vladimir Putin.

00:17:10.300 Kind of like the people who say, look, I don't like Putin, but I admire that he's done this, that or the other thing.

00:17:14.700 Right.

00:17:14.800 And all of a sudden, it's not that I was attacked by conservatives randomly who don't like Xi Jinping.

00:17:21.400 It was these DeSantis accounts.

00:17:24.660 I'm not saying they're being paid by the campaign or anything, but they all have the little alligator and their accounts that exist basically just to promote DeSantis.

00:17:31.520 And they start attacking me and I thought, kind of personally attacking me and they're probably still doing it.

00:17:39.360 And I thought, this is really strange.

00:17:41.700 I am not endorsing in the primary.

00:17:43.960 Right.

00:17:44.280 I praise Ron DeSantis for something or another almost every day on my show.

00:17:49.200 I have spent some time with Ron DeSantis.

00:17:51.520 I really like him.

00:17:53.180 I also really like Donald Trump.

00:17:55.060 So I think if you're going after me, the most I'm calling it like I seize it, how many voters are you turning off?

00:18:06.320 Look, the Trump voters, the Trump campaign doesn't need to worry about this.

00:18:09.920 Trump's up 30 points in the polls.

00:18:11.460 DeSantis is down at 20 percent or less.

00:18:13.900 They have to win over a huge number of Trump voters.

00:18:16.920 And so if you're just going to personally, viciously attack, it reflects so poorly on the candidate.

00:18:21.760 Even though Ron DeSantis personally has nothing to do with this, you know, it's just a very poor reflection of an otherwise, I think, good candidate.

00:18:29.600 It's exactly what I was very even keel going into it.

00:18:33.200 Like I was interested to see how things played out.

00:18:35.780 Wasn't committed to any candidate.

00:18:37.440 Felt how I felt about Ron DeSantis.

00:18:39.060 Like the way he kind of entered in.

00:18:40.560 Yeah, you were always skeptical of DeSantis.

00:18:43.180 But not enough to like attack him or say anything was wrong with him.

00:18:45.300 And then his Christina Pushaw was in comms.

00:18:49.920 She is quite vicious. 0.97

00:18:52.140 And she did.

00:18:52.880 She's always been nice to me.

00:18:54.040 She went after me.

00:18:55.000 And it was a step on your head while you're drowning.

00:18:56.960 Go after someone by liking a bunch of tweets and tweeting, like sub tweeting things to suggest that I was responsible for what Kanye West said.

00:19:04.240 Oh, the Kanye.

00:19:04.860 So it was like, you know, it was jumping on that.

00:19:06.280 But it's just like, OK, you are running an account that says that you represent the ideas of Ron DeSantis.

00:19:12.100 You're just pushing people away, right?

00:19:13.860 Like if there's like not.

00:19:14.700 So they do that all the time, though.

00:19:16.060 It's not just like she weighs on issues that have nothing to do with Ron DeSantis.

00:19:19.760 But she is the voice for Ron DeSantis.

00:19:22.420 And so when she does that, people assume this must be what Ron DeSantis thinks about this.

00:19:26.680 She shouldn't do that.

00:19:27.800 So that's what I said.

00:19:28.580 I said they thought they had a Kayleigh McEnany who was excellent when she was press secretary, right?

00:19:32.280 She was a sharpshooter. 1.00

00:19:33.320 But she didn't speak about things that Trump wasn't concerned about.

00:19:36.060 So they're not able to separate their personal feelings from what Ron's feelings are.

00:19:41.200 And when people are seeing it, like they're reflecting it, it's actually hurting Ron.

00:19:44.820 So that's my take on it.

00:19:45.540 I think their campaign, whereas they pretend to be above it.

00:19:48.700 They're like, we're different from Trump.

00:19:50.340 We're Trump without the drama.

00:19:51.440 No, no, no, no, no.

00:19:51.960 They're very petty.

00:19:53.100 They're very dramatic.

00:19:54.480 The vague is actually the person who is saying above it all.

00:19:58.660 He's above the fray.

00:19:59.440 He's not going after anybody.

00:20:00.440 He doesn't go after anybody.

00:20:01.780 He just tells you his ideas.

00:20:02.960 So DeSantis' campaign is pretending to be what the vague actually is.

00:20:06.260 And when I had the vague on my show, I was so impressed.

00:20:08.280 I was so refreshed.

00:20:09.040 I really liked him.

00:20:09.760 And I like that he's still, even though obviously he's competing with Trump, he has great reverence

00:20:14.120 for all the things that Trump has done.

00:20:15.540 Even when he speaks about things that Ron DeSantis is getting wrong, he's very level.

00:20:19.120 It's never personal.

00:20:20.040 It just talks about this is what he's getting wrong in Florida and he's what I would do differently.

00:20:23.040 And so I am, I guess, are we calling people Ramaswamy mommies?

00:20:27.880 Ramaswamy mommy.

00:20:28.540 But I'm a Ramaswamy mommy.

00:20:29.960 But it's even the, it's not just the candidates.

00:20:33.360 Because DeSantis doesn't personally attack people really, right?

00:20:36.280 No, but everyone around him does.

00:20:38.020 And it's interesting because I hadn't noticed it about his staffers.

00:20:41.380 I really was only noticing it about like rapid response, random accounts that just spend

00:20:47.220 all their day.

00:20:47.860 That's interesting.

00:20:48.760 Staffers, influencers.

00:20:50.240 And I'm like, you guys are all hurting his campaign.

00:20:52.380 You're hurting his campaign.

00:20:53.140 Because you look at the Vivek team.

00:20:55.980 For starters, I don't know.

00:20:57.840 I mean, I know them in the sense that I'm friends with Vivek Ramaswamy.

00:21:00.560 And so I kind of, if I were just like an outsider looking at the campaign, I wouldn't know any

00:21:05.700 of their names.

00:21:06.540 And that's probably a good thing.

00:21:08.000 I think it's a good thing.

00:21:08.920 Yeah, I think it's a good thing.

00:21:09.800 He really does remain above it.

00:21:11.080 So I very much like Vivek.

00:21:12.400 And I like that people are now starting to pay attention to him and listening to his ideas.

00:21:15.320 But do you think, okay, all of that to say, though, he's at whatever, you know.

00:21:20.080 I think he's going to eclipse DeSantis.

00:21:22.140 Do you really think that?

00:21:23.420 I really think he will.

00:21:23.820 Wow.

00:21:24.400 I think he will, eventually.

00:21:25.640 Yeah, I think he will.

00:21:26.980 That's okay.

00:21:27.840 Yeah.

00:21:28.120 He's catching some fun.

00:21:29.240 Listen, the Ramaswamy mommy just made the prediction.

00:21:31.800 I made the prediction right here.

00:21:34.720 Men who don't work out are like women who cry on TikTok after their pet bunny dies. 0.93

00:21:38.660 It's disordered, weak, and hard to look at.

00:21:43.260 That's just funny.

00:21:44.820 Who wrote these cards?

00:21:46.120 I don't know.

00:21:46.900 Some Philistine, probably. 1.00

00:21:48.440 Okay, so men who don't work out are like women who cry on TikTok. 0.88

00:21:52.800 I'm going to focus on that first part because it's kind of the second part.

00:21:57.140 I have to think about this.

00:22:00.740 Hold on.

00:22:01.160 Don't do it yet.

00:22:05.040 Okay, I got mine.

00:22:06.660 Okay.

00:22:08.720 You certainly got that right.

00:22:11.380 Did I get that right?

00:22:12.820 Yeah.

00:22:13.240 Yeah, of course.

00:22:14.200 Yeah.

00:22:14.620 You know how I knew?

00:22:15.260 Why?

00:22:15.740 Because George.

00:22:16.560 George is an exceptionally good looking man.

00:22:19.580 But he's not like in the gym.

00:22:21.140 He's not some like gym bro with sneakers on.

00:22:22.940 He's not a gym bro, but he works out every morning.

00:22:24.640 Does he?

00:22:25.120 He rows.

00:22:25.660 So it's just me.

00:22:26.400 Yeah, it's just you.

00:22:27.080 He rows, of course he rows.

00:22:27.600 I know you were looking for a friend in this.

00:22:28.680 It's so British.

00:22:29.580 Yeah, he rows every morning at 4.30.

00:22:31.980 He just plays a game of cricket every single morning.

00:22:34.000 Yeah.

00:22:34.600 And then he jumps in the pool.

00:22:35.980 You know, he does the ice plunge.

00:22:37.280 Yeah.

00:22:37.600 And then he jumps in there.

00:22:38.780 So he's quite...

00:22:39.080 A little pickleball.

00:22:39.580 And then he also runs.

00:22:40.960 But he doesn't do the like...

00:22:42.240 Yeah, yeah.

00:22:44.060 No, it's a very...

00:22:44.660 He doesn't...

00:22:45.480 No.

00:22:46.060 No, no, no, no, no, no.

00:22:51.140 One of the terrible things and why working out is overrated is I'd like to think that

00:22:56.300 I'm really, really fit.

00:22:58.500 No, I'm fit by the standards of a guy from the 50s.

00:23:01.920 Okay.

00:23:02.520 Like I eat a lot of fatty meats and I drink and I smoke cigars and I've never seen the

00:23:09.160 inside of a gym.

00:23:10.100 And in the 50s, you think of Superman or, I don't know, Ricky Ricardo or just like any

00:23:15.000 guy from the 50s.

00:23:16.240 They were all just kind of like a bit doughy, but not...

00:23:20.720 They weren't...

00:23:21.380 They weren't fat.

00:23:23.120 How's it different?

00:23:23.500 It's a bit anachronistic to do that because people were just more active in general because

00:23:27.920 there was less tech.

00:23:29.440 So whereas now you have to isolate your fitness because it's so easy to be lazy, right?

00:23:34.820 It's true.

00:23:35.320 Then, you know, your grandparents, as you know, walked up the hill both ways to go to school.

00:23:41.840 In snow.

00:23:42.900 Yeah, in snow.

00:23:43.600 In the summer.

00:23:44.000 Exactly.

00:23:44.400 In the summer.

00:23:45.300 Yeah.

00:23:45.420 All of our grandparents did it.

00:23:46.640 We know this.

00:23:47.520 So I always think it's funny because I think about my grandfather because he never worked

00:23:50.640 out, but he was always working out.

00:23:52.820 Like he was in the yard.

00:23:53.940 He was, you know what I mean?

00:23:54.580 So he was very physical, whereas now we live a very sedentary lifestyle.

00:23:58.520 So I think you do have to incorporate some sort of a fitness, but I wouldn't say it's

00:24:02.280 like women who cry on TikTok because that's just demonstrative of like complete and utter... 1.00

00:24:08.180 Psychic collapse.

00:24:08.740 Yeah, psychic collapse.

00:24:09.740 Yeah.

00:24:09.900 Which is like that, which is not the same as a man not working out.

00:24:12.680 So you can row.

00:24:13.880 I feel like you would, by the way.

00:24:15.180 I feel like Yale, George's Oxford, like it's kind of right up the alley.

00:24:19.280 No, I'll be the coxswain at the end calling out the orders.

00:24:23.460 All right.

00:24:23.960 My turn.

00:24:24.660 Don't get this wrong.

00:24:25.640 Okay.

00:24:25.960 Okay.

00:24:26.200 I'll try.

00:24:26.460 I'm going to be really angry.

00:24:27.420 I'll try.

00:24:27.860 Yeah.

00:24:28.140 I'll try.

00:24:28.660 I'm going to flip a table for no reason.

00:24:30.200 Yeah.

00:24:30.480 This is really good.

00:24:35.000 Having a Ukraine flag in your bio is more forgivable than wearing Crocs. 0.60

00:24:43.260 Than wearing Crocs?

00:24:44.460 Yeah.

00:24:50.360 Correct.

00:24:50.800 This is a tough one for me.

00:24:57.580 It's very, very tough for me.

00:25:00.980 There's no easy answer.

00:25:02.480 There's not an easy answer.

00:25:03.740 Can we feel better because you've said that?

00:25:05.900 Because I'm about to cry on TikTok, to be honest.

00:25:08.020 Feeling real close to a cry on TikTok.

00:25:10.380 Oh, my God.

00:25:15.880 Zelensky.

00:25:17.360 Okay.

00:25:17.900 You got me.

00:25:18.660 There we go.

00:25:18.800 Yeah.

00:25:19.420 All right.

00:25:19.980 There we go.

00:25:20.500 I just wanted to punch him in the face again.

00:25:22.060 Straight in the face.

00:25:23.320 I love that.

00:25:23.520 I always pull all the clip.

00:25:24.140 Wait, that guy who just wants to start World War III.

00:25:25.940 If I could get away with it, I would, but I know I'm not allowed to, so I wouldn't do

00:25:29.800 it.

00:25:30.840 But if I could.

00:25:32.280 If you get taken down for threatening violence against Zelensky, that would be amazing. 1.00

00:25:36.120 That would be.

00:25:36.500 I would be a hero.

00:25:38.060 I would be a hero.

00:25:39.460 You were early.

00:25:40.160 I mean, I've always tried to be kind of moderate about, you know, Mr. Zelensky and all this.

00:25:46.060 But you, early on, you said, I don't like it.

00:25:48.700 I don't grifter when I see one, okay?

00:25:50.780 Highest paid actor in the world.

00:25:51.820 It's the highest paid actor.

00:25:52.560 You got $100 billion.

00:25:53.580 I mean, wearing the fatigues the whole time.

00:25:55.220 Put on a different outfit.

00:25:56.220 We know that you're not in the trenches, okay?

00:25:58.580 Go to the White House.

00:25:59.440 Please put on a necktie.

00:26:00.580 Please.

00:26:01.240 Show some respect.

00:26:02.420 We've sent you billions.

00:26:03.480 And by the way, I've traveled to St. Tropez.

00:26:05.100 The Ukrainians now have yachts. 0.98

00:26:06.900 They've got shallots in Switzerland.

00:26:08.600 They've got yachts. 0.90

00:26:09.480 No, I'm not kidding.

00:26:10.640 I'm just looking at you.

00:26:11.360 These are our tax dollars.

00:26:13.140 But at least he's wearing the army fatigues.

00:26:14.840 You can't be bothered to buy a tux.

00:26:16.240 It's like, bro, you can buy a Tom Ford tux 20,000 times today, okay?

00:26:21.820 His wife shopping at Prada in France.

00:26:23.900 I mean, I can't stand it.

00:26:25.560 You're right.

00:26:26.200 That was the right answer.

00:26:28.000 I'm about to freak out right now.

00:26:29.200 Not an easy answer, but a simple answer.

00:26:30.800 Yeah.

00:26:31.060 A very simple answer.

00:26:33.480 There is a topic I would like to debate Ben Shapiro on.

00:26:38.820 Oh, my goodness.

00:26:41.800 Absolutely.

00:26:42.740 Yeah.

00:26:43.700 It would be unpleasant to lose my job, but I don't know.

00:26:46.540 I mean, you know.

00:26:47.440 But it might be fun.

00:26:49.140 That's the thing.

00:26:50.100 I guess the reason it might be a no is a topic.

00:26:52.840 I got 10,000 topics.

00:26:54.040 Yeah, I know.

00:26:54.680 I know.

00:26:55.080 I know.

00:26:55.360 What would be one topic?

00:26:57.000 You know, I have to say.

00:26:57.740 Actually, give us all 10,000.

00:26:58.900 We've got time.

00:26:59.320 Happily.

00:26:59.880 So I would like to brag just a little bit and pay a compliment to my friend Ben, which

00:27:06.160 is back in the day, years and years ago, he and I, we would get into fights all the

00:27:11.500 time about.

00:27:12.300 Just physical.

00:27:13.140 Always physical.

00:27:14.120 Always kind of like this.

00:27:14.840 So we'd always get into fights about political philosophy because there were certain thinkers

00:27:19.020 that I really admire and enjoy that he didn't like.

00:27:22.880 I'm thinking of people like Michael Oakeshott.

00:27:25.960 This is a really nerdy fight.

00:27:27.280 You know, people like Michael Oakeshott, people like Russell Kirk, people like Edmund Burke.

00:27:32.360 And Ben was very, didn't like him.

00:27:35.240 He was, he's a John Locke guy.

00:27:36.700 You know, he's a more of an enlightenment guy.

00:27:38.660 And I'm kind of an anti-enlightenment guy.

00:27:41.040 I'm an anti-liberal guy.

00:27:42.140 And I will say this, and this is to Ben's great credit, over the years, he's starting

00:27:49.180 to simp for my guys.

00:27:50.680 Is he?

00:27:51.060 He's kind of like an Oakeshott guy now.

00:27:52.960 He's like definitely kind of a Burke guy now.

00:27:55.460 So...

00:27:55.700 It's not a debate then.

00:27:56.600 It's no debate.

00:27:57.320 It's not a debate.

00:27:57.880 It's just drinks and agree.

00:28:00.280 So you would like to drink and agree with Benjamin?

00:28:01.920 Mm-hmm.

00:28:02.760 I would debate him on vaccines.

00:28:06.020 Mm-hmm.

00:28:06.520 That would be, people would love that, by the way.

00:28:07.980 So this is another one though.

00:28:08.860 He used to be super duper pro, like...

00:28:10.560 Yeah, 100%.

00:28:11.880 Now, isn't he a little questioning?

00:28:14.780 I don't know.

00:28:15.400 I don't think so.

00:28:15.660 Certainly on the COVID-vax he is.

00:28:16.960 Well, I think on the COVID-vax he is.

00:28:16.980 Now he said he wouldn't have gotten the COVID-vax.

00:28:18.640 Yeah, exactly.

00:28:19.380 But I don't know about all the other ones.

00:28:20.360 I think that'd be super...

00:28:21.260 That's true.

00:28:21.960 That would be great.

00:28:23.220 How do we get that set up?

00:28:24.420 Yeah.

00:28:24.600 Are you serious?

00:28:25.580 Exactly.

00:28:26.060 Oh, I'm down for that.

00:28:26.760 Yeah, right?

00:28:27.160 Yeah.

00:28:27.480 I'll bring my martini to that.

00:28:28.680 Exactly.

00:28:29.960 You're up.

00:28:30.660 All right.

00:28:31.080 This is going to be a good one.

00:28:35.780 What?

00:28:36.880 Seed oils cause sunburns.

00:28:41.880 Since you're an educated person, I assume you know the answer to that.

00:28:50.820 You kind of gave away the answer here.

00:28:54.000 I...

00:28:54.560 You got this wrong, so you're going to have to drink.

00:28:56.420 And you have to drink a lot.

00:28:57.020 Really?

00:28:57.440 Yeah.

00:28:57.840 Whoa, hold on.

00:28:58.560 You know why?

00:28:58.880 What?

00:28:59.240 I don't know anything about seed oils.

00:29:00.580 And this was almost a racist question, because I don't get sunburned.

00:29:03.140 So this is like, so I don't know what to do with seed oils.

00:29:05.460 You're right.

00:29:05.880 And I don't get sunburned.

00:29:06.320 So I'm like, obviously that's not true, because I've definitely eaten seed oils, and

00:29:09.140 I've never gotten sunburned because I'm black.

00:29:11.040 So I'm going to do a little common sense here.

00:29:12.940 Seed oils can't be causing sunburns for black people.

00:29:15.780 This is the best argument I've ever heard as to why seed oils don't.

00:29:18.660 Yeah.

00:29:19.320 Absolutely not.

00:29:20.000 I've consumed a lot of seed oils in my life, and I've never gotten a sunburned because

00:29:22.880 I'm black.

00:29:23.500 Let me tell you something.

00:29:24.000 I mean, on this point, on this exact point, my mother, my beloved mother, was very dark

00:29:29.800 scared.

00:29:30.440 Very.

00:29:30.860 I'm half English.

00:29:31.540 Like Italian black. 0.99

00:29:32.200 I've seen Italian blacks. 0.97

00:29:32.840 Like, yeah, Sicilian.

00:29:33.600 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:29:34.060 I mean, like, super dark.

00:29:35.380 I remember I saw photos of her when she was young, and I, when I was a kid, I said, oh,

00:29:39.040 mom, I didn't know you were black.

00:29:41.100 And I did.

00:29:41.780 So cute.

00:29:42.200 In the summer, and she says, well, Michael, it's sort of got behind you.

00:29:45.060 We'll talk about it later.

00:29:46.100 But even later on, like, when I was a kid, I get very brown in the summer, but she would

00:29:51.600 get black, you know. 0.86

00:29:52.880 And, uh.

00:29:54.000 I always thought, okay, I wouldn't sunburn.

00:29:57.820 But then, in the middle of my teen years, for some reason, I started sunburning.

00:30:01.560 Wow.

00:30:02.220 And I thought, what now?

00:30:03.960 In retrospect, I realized I was consuming a lot of seed oils.

00:30:07.980 And then, sweet little Elisa, who follows all the hippie stuff that you follow, she says,

00:30:13.880 Mac, you gotta stop.

00:30:15.440 No more seed oils.

00:30:16.220 We're not gonna cook with them.

00:30:17.020 We're not gonna eat them.

00:30:17.480 Whatever.

00:30:17.760 So I greatly reduced it.

00:30:18.480 I was like, this is some hippie, dippy nonsense.

00:30:22.000 I don't get sunburns anymore.

00:30:24.380 And I'm that, I'm a little bit of that olive oil.

00:30:26.720 I could burn.

00:30:27.640 I don't, right?

00:30:28.380 Yeah, but what are the seed oils in?

00:30:29.900 The reason why I don't want to go.

00:30:31.600 Everything.

00:30:31.880 Everything.

00:30:31.960 It's probably in this martini.

00:30:33.080 It's already so crunchy.

00:30:34.640 Yes.

00:30:34.780 That I'm fearful that if I let, if I look into, everybody keeps telling me, they're telling

00:30:38.500 me to look into it.

00:30:39.100 I'm like, guys, you don't understand.

00:30:40.800 I will go crazy.

00:30:42.540 Like, I will be a psycho.

00:30:43.940 Yeah, I know.

00:30:44.540 I will just bite onto it like a pit bull.

00:30:46.600 Yes.

00:30:46.960 Like a pit bull on a tasty toddler.

00:30:48.880 Yes.

00:30:49.700 Right.

00:30:51.020 Yeah.

00:30:52.480 Well, you're there, Candice, because you can't turn away from the truth when you see it.

00:30:56.720 I know.

00:30:57.160 It's going to be so bad.

00:30:58.520 No.

00:30:59.000 I'm already like an 82-year-old full grandma right now.

00:31:02.080 And if I struggle with them, every little, I know how I am.

00:31:05.220 All right, fine.

00:31:05.880 I'm going to look into it.

00:31:06.620 It's so, Candice.

00:31:07.700 Candice, you're going to, you're going to Google it and six minutes later.

00:31:11.160 I'm going to be done.

00:31:12.000 You're going to be done.

00:31:12.380 I know.

00:31:12.780 I can no longer avoid it.

00:31:14.040 It's following me.

00:31:16.780 I'm easy to work with.

00:31:19.700 Ready?

00:31:20.240 So this is, we would, this is how I think you would answer about yourself.

00:31:25.200 And you're answering how I would answer about myself.

00:31:27.660 Okay.

00:31:28.680 Okay.

00:31:29.180 Ready?

00:31:30.020 Go.

00:31:35.500 Absolutely correct.

00:31:37.600 And I say, you would say that you are not easy to work with.

00:31:40.960 Savannah?

00:31:42.820 Savannah! 0.96

00:31:43.460 Savannah! 0.96

00:31:46.680 Oh, she pisses me off when I say something like that.

00:31:49.280 She doesn't get over here. 1.00

00:31:50.580 She didn't get it.

00:31:52.060 I would say I'm easier to work with than George.

00:31:55.560 I actually do.

00:31:57.320 I'm, I'm, I'm.

00:31:58.100 I think you're easier.

00:31:58.480 Okay.

00:31:58.760 I am.

00:31:59.220 I'm easy to work with.

00:32:00.460 I have to really think about this.

00:32:01.800 I don't know what I would say.

00:32:03.080 Just drink anyways.

00:32:04.200 I'm going to choose.

00:32:04.680 Yeah.

00:32:05.060 Because, yeah.

00:32:05.720 You should just drink for me.

00:32:06.680 Yeah.

00:32:07.100 Drink again.

00:32:07.820 Because I think what I would say is, I, I think I'm very easy to work with.

00:32:12.360 Because you know why?

00:32:13.640 No one ever leaves my team.

00:32:15.180 So that's got to be, you know, usually you get a high turnover rate you're not used to

00:32:17.740 work with.

00:32:18.200 That's true.

00:32:18.340 But I would say that when it comes to my show, I'm a perfectionist.

00:32:22.040 And so I'm, I mean, down to like naming the titles, all of the stuff.

00:32:24.860 I'm very involved.

00:32:25.560 And if something's not right, then somebody like is slipping that day.

00:32:28.940 And I'm like, listen, I write the show.

00:32:31.380 I go, like, you got to do this job and you got to do it right.

00:32:34.120 And I will like.

00:32:35.740 Yeah.

00:32:36.460 So I would, but I think that's a, that's just like everyone has to bring their A game.

00:32:39.780 But it's not easy.

00:32:40.480 Like I think about it with Jeremy too.

00:32:42.080 Is it Jeremy easy to work with?

00:32:44.460 Jeremy is a, that's going to sound like I'm being too nice.

00:32:48.680 Please don't tell Jeremy I said this.

00:32:49.960 Jeremy is a joy to work with.

00:32:51.280 It's the joy of my professional life to work with Jeremy.

00:32:53.780 He's the guy's a creative genius.

00:32:55.220 It's every day is something new.

00:32:56.860 It's just, he's not easy to work with.

00:32:59.640 I mean, same thing.

00:33:00.600 He's, he, he's got this crazy vision and he's ruthlessly perfectionist about everything.

00:33:06.900 And so it's not easy, but it's very gratifying.

00:33:09.360 And I see a kind of a similar.

00:33:10.900 I would say I'm, I'm, and I'm super nice to everyone that I know people will say over

00:33:14.100 and over again is I'm not, I I'm definitely not mean.

00:33:15.960 I never raised my voice.

00:33:16.900 I don't believe in yelling.

00:33:17.680 I think actually when you yell at people, it shows you've lost control.

00:33:20.240 Yeah.

00:33:20.420 You do believe in corporal punishment.

00:33:22.020 But I hit them.

00:33:22.980 You hit them.

00:33:23.420 I do get Savannah.

00:33:24.560 You do.

00:33:25.180 But that's different.

00:33:25.920 It's different.

00:33:26.700 It's sort of.

00:33:27.220 People get it.

00:33:27.640 Just for recreation.

00:33:28.940 Yeah.

00:33:29.240 Uh-huh.

00:33:29.580 Okay.

00:33:30.460 My turn.

00:33:31.220 You're up.

00:33:33.200 You are definitely easy to work with.

00:33:34.840 I am.

00:33:35.140 I'm just such a.

00:33:36.840 You're like, whatever.

00:33:37.700 Huh?

00:33:38.300 What?

00:33:39.180 Get it.

00:33:39.540 Turn it in on.

00:33:40.160 Don't turn it in.

00:33:41.020 I don't know.

00:33:42.280 This is so great.

00:33:43.440 Most likely, Savannah will be fired before Ben Davies. 1.00

00:33:52.080 Brilliant timing on this.

00:33:56.740 You know, the sharpness of that question might change my answer.

00:34:02.400 You're like, huh?

00:34:07.040 One, two, three.

00:34:12.320 No.

00:34:12.880 No.

00:34:14.060 We can never be too sure.

00:34:15.540 No, no.

00:34:16.500 And I'd like to make this announcement.

00:34:18.020 Oh.

00:34:18.380 Right now.

00:34:18.900 Mm-hmm.

00:34:20.620 I've enjoyed working with Ben Davies.

00:34:22.600 And I appreciate his contributions to my show.

00:34:24.760 But I think it's time for him to move on.

00:34:26.620 Yeah.

00:34:26.820 I do.

00:34:27.120 I do, too.

00:34:27.940 Yeah.

00:34:28.160 But I was just about to say that about Savannah.

00:34:29.860 So.

00:34:30.480 She just got to speak first.

00:34:32.020 It's really.

00:34:32.580 But I've enjoyed her contributions.

00:34:33.560 You're going to lose them both?

00:34:34.480 We're going to lose them both.

00:34:35.820 I feel free now.

00:34:36.680 Well, he.

00:34:37.020 Because.

00:34:37.380 We can just say whatever we want now.

00:34:38.360 Mr. Davies already wrote the rest of my question.

00:34:40.320 So I don't need him until the next episode.

00:34:42.000 You know.

00:34:44.260 Brilliant timing.

00:34:46.940 Okay.

00:34:47.460 No.

00:34:47.620 You're up.

00:34:48.260 You're up.

00:34:49.220 If you're not married by 30, you should only really be concerned if you're a woman.

00:34:53.260 One, two, three.

00:35:01.280 Drink, my dear.

00:35:02.340 Oh, my gosh.

00:35:03.040 Drink your seltzer water.

00:35:04.200 Drink your seltzer.

00:35:04.940 Oh, my gosh.

00:35:05.920 You would say no.

00:35:06.840 Explain.

00:35:07.640 Because people are going to start to wonder about you, first of all, if you're a man.

00:35:11.620 And they're going to wonder about your loafers and the heaviness or lightness of them.

00:35:15.820 But the other thing, you should be concerned.

00:35:18.600 Forget about how people perceive you.

00:35:19.940 Because, you know, I think it's perfectly fine to obviously engage in religious life.

00:35:25.240 You know, join an order or even consecrated singlehood or something like that.

00:35:28.340 But if you lack the charism for celibacy and you're single by 30 and you're a fella, you

00:35:36.180 are very likely going to be fornicating or looking at porn.

00:35:40.520 I mean, men, it's like we're riding around on an elephant.

00:35:44.020 The libido is so insane.

00:35:46.120 And even more, I know women, you know, sort of throw themselves at me as I'm walking down

00:35:49.740 the street.

00:35:50.120 But it's not like women have no idea.

00:35:52.000 For men, the sexual drive is just so intense that if you're single and you don't really

00:35:56.920 have an outlet for that and you're in your 20s, late 20s, 30s, it's not going to be conducive

00:36:03.160 to your virtue.

00:36:04.380 Okay.

00:36:04.740 But what was the question?

00:36:06.120 You should be concerned.

00:36:07.160 You should only be concerned if you're a woman. 1.00

00:36:08.680 Okay.

00:36:08.940 So it's how you think about what concern is.

00:36:11.380 Yeah.

00:36:11.480 Okay.

00:36:12.060 That's an interesting take on it.

00:36:13.160 Because what I would say is that I heard that question and thought, women, biological 1.00

00:36:17.380 clock ticking.

00:36:18.380 You should be concerned.

00:36:19.300 You haven't found a partner.

00:36:20.900 You know, you've got a very short runway now to get this figured out.

00:36:23.620 Yeah.

00:36:24.100 And also, I had this ex-boyfriend actually dated a guy.

00:36:27.660 And the reason why I was going to say I disagree about 30 is because women like older 1.00

00:36:30.900 men.

00:36:31.260 So they're not like running out of time.

00:36:32.700 There's no biological clock that's ticking.

00:36:34.600 It's like, are you going to figure your ish out?

00:36:36.620 Yes or no?

00:36:37.840 Who knows?

00:36:38.400 But you're not like, oh, well, that's it.

00:36:39.940 It's over for me.

00:36:40.740 Right.

00:36:41.180 And I have this ex-boyfriend who I dated who was 11 years older than me.

00:36:44.020 I was 22.

00:36:44.560 He was 33.

00:36:45.400 Right.

00:36:45.820 Wow.

00:36:46.520 And he said something to me that sometimes you just a sentence in your life.

00:36:50.000 You just never forget it.

00:36:51.220 Right.

00:36:51.500 And, you know, at the time we were dating and I was like, you know, why don't you date any

00:36:55.140 girls your age?

00:36:55.780 And he's like, well, because if I date a girl that's 33, she's going to want to ring immediately.

00:37:00.120 And he said, and the truth is, is that if you're a guy and you meet a girl and she's

00:37:04.840 in her early 30s and no other guy wanted her, your first thought process is, what's wrong

00:37:09.920 with her?

00:37:10.200 What am I missing?

00:37:11.100 Wow.

00:37:11.500 And they never left me.

00:37:13.220 It never left me.

00:37:14.180 Whoa, man.

00:37:14.480 That is brutal.

00:37:15.280 And I've asked a few guys that question and they've been like, to be honest, like, yeah,

00:37:19.840 if I met a 33-year-old girl and everything looked right and I would be like, okay, but

00:37:25.360 what am I missing?

00:37:25.800 Because you're so great.

00:37:26.720 Yeah.

00:37:27.060 That like, why didn't some other guys swoop you up in your 20s?

00:37:29.500 And so I think that it's a steeper climb for women for a lot of different reasons. 1.00

00:37:33.920 Not, I'm obviously, it has worked for people.

00:37:35.420 I know people that have gotten married in 36.

00:37:36.720 Like, it can happen.

00:37:37.840 But those, I think, are the exceptions and not the rules.

00:37:41.180 Do you wonder, though, if now, because I totally get that in principle, but now for

00:37:45.300 women, especially millennial women who are raised in this feminist culture that said, 1.00

00:37:48.800 don't get married, just pursue the widget factory career forever and just do you, you,

00:37:53.720 you.

00:37:53.940 And then these women come to their senses in their late 20s and early 30s. 1.00

00:37:58.440 And they're otherwise great women who were basically just duped by the culture. 1.00

00:38:03.840 I mean, I wonder, I think that's a pretty large chunk these days.

00:38:06.840 Yeah.

00:38:07.160 Feminism can colonize your brain. 1.00

00:38:08.520 I say it all the time on my show.

00:38:09.460 I'm like, don't let it colonize.

00:38:10.300 You will get to 30 and then you get to 33 and it's first, it's I'm having fun, living

00:38:14.920 life, I'm doing me.

00:38:15.880 And then suddenly you realize all your friends are getting married, all your friends are having

00:38:18.620 children.

00:38:19.320 You're seeing all these announcements on Instagram and you're like, what was I thinking?

00:38:22.400 You probably also walked away from a really good guy who liked you.

00:38:25.960 At least one.

00:38:26.400 Yeah.

00:38:26.680 At least one, maybe two in your 20s.

00:38:28.880 But you just thought that it was going to be forever.

00:38:30.740 Your youth was going to be forever.

00:38:32.040 And there is actually a biological change that happens.

00:38:34.780 And I tell women this the whole time.

00:38:36.240 Like I remember being in my early 20s and I had the young carefree mentality.

00:38:40.100 I was also liberal in my, all my perspectives.

00:38:43.180 So I was eating up the feminist garbage, which is fine. 1.00

00:38:45.600 I always say, you can experiment with feminists like a drug in college. 1.00

00:38:48.220 It's fine.

00:38:48.780 You shouldn't be proud of it.

00:38:50.960 You try the drug and then you gotta, you gotta let it go, you know?

00:38:55.700 But yeah, so I had these feminist perspectives and, but then something changed and it wasn't 1.00

00:38:59.820 a mental, it wasn't a mental change.

00:39:01.640 It was deeper than that.

00:39:03.540 It was like biological, spiritual.

00:39:05.700 Suddenly you're aware that you are a mammal.

00:39:08.800 And I would say it happened around 27, 26 when I was like, must find, mate, have babies.

00:39:15.000 Like it's so weird.

00:39:16.040 And I'm seeing what happened to other women now that I'm friends with and they're turning 0.61

00:39:19.620 27, 28 and they're like, must find, mate, have babies.

00:39:22.500 So there, there is something that happens.

00:39:24.140 There's a sea change that happens within women in their later 20s where suddenly all of the 0.99

00:39:29.520 ideology means nothing.

00:39:30.660 The sociology means nothing.

00:39:32.040 And the biology overrides.

00:39:33.440 You're like, give me baby.

00:39:35.040 When I met George, I said, I want kids.

00:39:37.640 Like, I mean, it was the first date, you know?

00:39:38.720 Your first sentence, I think, was, and you said, hello, nice to meet you, George.

00:39:43.540 Give me baby.

00:39:44.220 Yeah.

00:39:44.440 Give me baby.

00:39:45.280 Right now.

00:39:45.780 Yeah.

00:39:46.100 Yeah.

00:39:46.400 And he, we're married, happily married.

00:39:48.620 He actually has.

00:39:49.420 Works, ladies. 0.99

00:39:50.400 I was like, I'm going to put my, all my crazy up front and it worked.

00:39:53.100 It did.

00:39:53.540 For people who don't know, 18 days.

00:39:56.200 18 days to meet my husband and before we got engaged.

00:40:00.340 And I got it right.

00:40:02.180 You did get it right.

00:40:02.840 I know.

00:40:03.120 He's so cute.

00:40:03.800 He's just not.

00:40:05.820 Cute.

00:40:06.780 Cute.

00:40:07.420 I don't know.

00:40:07.820 Okay.

00:40:08.000 Cute and angry Englishman.

00:40:09.720 Yes.

00:40:10.200 Yeah.

00:40:10.580 He's very, he's very manly.

00:40:12.060 He's very British.

00:40:12.700 You know.

00:40:12.920 He's very British.

00:40:13.380 I don't know.

00:40:13.680 Cute.

00:40:17.400 I'm up.

00:40:18.940 No.

00:40:19.060 Candace is up.

00:40:20.280 Yells, Ben, baby.

00:40:22.120 Didn't we fire him?

00:40:23.180 I thought so.

00:40:23.840 I'm glad we, I'm glad he didn't leave.

00:40:26.020 Nobody listens to us around here.

00:40:27.360 The law of attraction is harmless and is simply a vapid Instagram level therapy practiced among

00:40:35.680 redheads, women who drink from Stan Lee's and dudes named Skylar.

00:40:41.240 What's a Stan Lee's?

00:40:48.640 The law of attraction is harmless and is simply a vapid Instagram level therapy practiced among

00:40:56.760 redheads, women who drink Stan Lee's and dudes named Skylar.

00:41:01.920 What's a Stan Lee?

00:41:02.940 Oh my God.

00:41:03.520 It's like the basic white girl cup that everyone has.

00:41:06.280 Sometimes these things happen on TikTok where like, and then like white girls go crazy. 1.00

00:41:09.540 We're like, we'll have to do it right now.

00:41:10.620 And it was a Stan Lee cup.

00:41:11.820 And some girl was like, I drink so much water when I drink out of this cup.

00:41:15.000 And then literally, yeah, every, every white girl in America bought the cup. 1.00

00:41:19.220 Yeah.

00:41:19.840 I have seen.

00:41:20.520 And it's like $75.

00:41:21.500 I have seen white girls. 1.00

00:41:23.120 It's got a little handle.

00:41:24.460 They're like, it's true.

00:41:25.820 It works.

00:41:26.340 I drink so much water.

00:41:28.300 It's just became a little white girl trend. 1.00

00:41:29.880 It's actually really sweet.

00:41:30.800 You think I'm going to say, you're going to say no.

00:41:36.060 And I'm certainly going to say no.

00:41:40.140 Harmless.

00:41:41.580 Simply.

00:41:44.740 I agree.

00:41:45.780 Of course.

00:41:46.180 I agree.

00:41:47.680 Right.

00:41:48.200 You're right.

00:41:48.600 Because it's, it is, it is all the things in the second part of the question.

00:41:53.760 It's the law of attraction is just for depressed, but eccentric women to try to make sense of 1.00

00:42:01.900 a world that they find chaotic and confusing, but it's a cult.

00:42:05.740 It's a cult.

00:42:06.460 It's a new age cultism and it will drive you crazy.

00:42:10.420 And it, and the women who go into it go completely insane. 1.00

00:42:12.560 No, I totally agree.

00:42:13.440 I totally agree.

00:42:14.040 That the ones that cry on TikTok.

00:42:14.980 Yeah, they, they do with their Stanleys, the crime.

00:42:18.340 With their Stanleys.

00:42:21.240 A couple, $75 they paid for that.

00:42:23.400 That's so outrageous.

00:42:24.760 Do you have one?

00:42:25.120 These things happen.

00:42:25.640 No.

00:42:26.140 No.

00:42:26.960 I wanted to see if I could get it.

00:42:28.160 Mark safe from sunburns.

00:42:30.180 Yeah.

00:42:30.320 They're safe from Stanley Cups.

00:42:31.760 Yeah.

00:42:34.480 You're up.

00:42:35.260 I'm up.

00:42:35.960 Mm-hmm.

00:42:36.220 I've met someone who I believe was possessed by a demon.

00:42:42.140 Oh my goodness.

00:42:45.820 I had to think about that.

00:42:50.980 Okay.

00:42:52.140 Got it.

00:43:01.220 Correct?

00:43:02.200 I'm not sure.

00:43:02.800 You know why?

00:43:03.480 Because I just, I felt no for you.

00:43:06.220 Yeah.

00:43:06.660 Because I just thought, you see the good in everybody.

00:43:09.500 So even if you, there was a demon, you'd be like, you know, maybe they just had a bad day.

00:43:12.780 Maybe it was merely vexation.

00:43:14.840 Maybe it wasn't total possession.

00:43:16.340 That would be, you're just, you would, yeah.

00:43:17.820 That's right.

00:43:18.040 Yeah, I don't, I, I'm not confident, even if people who've had bizarre aspects to them.

00:43:25.200 I'm not confident.

00:43:26.340 I think, oddly enough, people knock me because they say that I talk about demons and angels

00:43:31.260 and stuff too much.

00:43:31.880 But I don't see demons under every rock.

00:43:34.920 I think it's, I think demonic possession is a basically rare thing, maybe increasingly

00:43:40.220 prominent in our culture.

00:43:41.740 But it's not every person who has a problem is possessed by a demon.

00:43:45.680 They might be tempted or vexed by demons.

00:43:47.560 But I think it, full on possession is still pretty rare.

00:43:50.420 I think Hollywood is quite demonic.

00:43:52.620 Yeah.

00:43:52.780 And, and I see people possessed by it in a weird way that I've been like, I've seen people

00:43:59.060 ruin their lives and on this quest for Hollywood level fame.

00:44:03.700 And I think that that's a demon.

00:44:05.000 Like I, and they can't shake it.

00:44:06.220 It's really weird to watch someone destroy it.

00:44:07.980 So if, if not like a demon literally acting through their body.

00:44:11.320 Yeah.

00:44:11.640 At the very least a demon influencing.

00:44:13.620 Right.

00:44:14.000 Oh yeah.

00:44:14.500 Yeah.

00:44:14.680 You think Hollywood is where you've seen it?

00:44:16.140 Yeah.

00:44:16.560 It's very demonic.

00:44:17.640 It is a demonic place.

00:44:18.700 And then there's just, there's pathways to it.

00:44:21.340 Like Instagram.

00:44:22.520 I've seen women, like, I think it's a possession of sorts and maybe it's not, yeah, like a full 1.00

00:44:28.060 on demon, but to see the way that Instagram, think about the way that we grew up and we

00:44:33.540 were like playing outside and we have like scrapes on our knees and I had braces and I was

00:44:36.960 super ugly, but I thought I was cute in my braces.

00:44:38.780 Were you ugly as a little?

00:44:40.240 Well, I look like I got pictures and I'm like, oh my God, I thought I was so cute.

00:44:42.940 And I think everyone else thought I was cute too.

00:44:44.540 And I was getting my braces changed different colors.

00:44:46.480 I thought that was hot.

00:44:47.340 And I smiled big in my middle school pics because I wanted people to see my teal braces.

00:44:52.340 Did you?

00:44:52.640 Yeah.

00:44:52.880 I was like, these are dope.

00:44:53.700 I hid my braces.

00:44:54.160 I would do a smile like this.

00:44:56.220 I thought I was fly in my braces.

00:44:58.220 Maybe you were.

00:44:58.780 All the confidence in the world.

00:44:59.900 And then I see these girls today and they're getting like lip injections at 14 because they're 1.00

00:45:05.200 spending so much time on Instagram and they're seeing that's a, something's not right

00:45:09.400 there.

00:45:09.700 And I mean, willing to go under the knife.

00:45:13.040 I mean, these are possessions of sorts, right?

00:45:15.500 Like, and so whether it's demonic, true to being a demon, I don't know.

00:45:20.940 Yeah.

00:45:21.200 That probably isn't right.

00:45:22.620 But people are possessed and social media causes, I think, possessions.

00:45:26.980 Yeah.

00:45:27.160 And it leads you down those paths.

00:45:28.760 I mean, especially when people dabble in drugs, especially the mind altering drugs.

00:45:32.680 And when people fall into these crazy sins of pride, that really takes you down a bad

00:45:39.300 path.

00:45:40.500 The, but I've heard stories of firsthand accounts of people who like are speaking to people and

00:45:46.820 then they'll start yelling in Aramaic kind of like that degree.

00:45:50.820 But even that is increasing in prevalence.

00:45:53.780 It's, I've spoken to exorcists who is talking to an exorcist is sometimes it's sort of like

00:45:58.920 talking to a plumber.

00:46:01.000 You think you're going to hear some amazing wild story from an exorcist.

00:46:05.120 Often it's just, yeah, well then I had to unplug this person.

00:46:09.560 You know, they had this stupid demon flying around them.

00:46:11.860 And, but the stories I hear from them are pretty wild.

00:46:17.240 And George tells me that.

00:46:18.300 Yeah.

00:46:18.780 Yeah.

00:46:19.040 George, George chats with these people.

00:46:21.760 Yeah.

00:46:22.180 And not the demons, right?

00:46:24.200 Not the demons.

00:46:24.820 I don't, I don't think so.

00:46:25.960 Not anymore.

00:46:26.740 Not anymore.

00:46:27.260 We've, we've put that behind us.

00:46:28.880 But talking to exorcists now, they say the phone rings more often today than it used

00:46:34.140 to.

00:46:34.400 Yeah.

00:46:34.800 There's, yeah, there's something going on.

00:46:36.020 You can feel it in the climate and definitely within Hollywood and it's, it's programming people

00:46:40.600 in a way that I think is, I just have questions about it.

00:46:43.340 Yeah.

00:46:43.660 I agree.

00:46:44.540 I agree.

00:46:45.020 Especially Hollywood.

00:46:45.960 Gamora by the sea.

00:46:46.860 Uh-huh.

00:46:48.400 Yes.

00:46:48.900 Drink.

00:46:49.600 Drink.

00:46:50.280 Am I up or is it you?

00:46:51.440 Me.

00:46:51.860 It's you.

00:46:52.420 I totally lose track.

00:46:57.020 I want to find the person who's writing these.

00:46:59.100 Mm-hmm.

00:46:59.600 Remind me to do that after.

00:47:00.580 Yeah.

00:47:01.180 Pfizer is more trustworthy than Carly Russell.

00:47:05.020 Ooh.

00:47:07.200 Don't even, I'm obsessed.

00:47:08.760 Yeah, with the Carly Russell thing. 0.98

00:47:09.780 I am obsessed.

00:47:10.420 I don't, I don't even, all I've seen about it is from you.

00:47:12.960 Yeah.

00:47:13.340 Yeah.

00:47:13.500 Okay.

00:47:13.780 Just stop then because you just need to understand so you can actually answer this question.

00:47:17.120 Okay.

00:47:17.320 Like this black girl goes missing and like they find her running car.

00:47:21.880 She calls 911 and says there's a toddler on the side of the road.

00:47:24.280 Right.

00:47:24.680 And then, um, she hangs up the phone call, reports the toddler and the toddler kind of

00:47:28.960 looks like Tommy Pickles wearing a t-shirt and a diaper.

00:47:31.980 Yeah.

00:47:32.180 She hangs up the phone and then she calls her sister-in-law and she's like talking to her

00:47:37.340 like I'm going to try to talk to this toddler.

00:47:38.480 She gets out of the car to start along here to scream. 1.00

00:47:40.880 Police got there five minutes later.

00:47:42.740 Carly's wig is on the side of the road.

00:47:44.460 This is in Alabama.

00:47:45.540 Okay.

00:47:46.140 We're waiting on the side of the road.

00:47:46.880 Her purse, her, her, uh, keys, her Apple watch and the car is running.

00:47:53.240 And obviously this is on the side of a, uh, like I four 95 in Alabama.

00:47:57.080 It's like a busy, kind of a busy road.

00:47:59.060 And, um, so there's this manhunt ensues for 49 hours for the toddler and Carly, you know,

00:48:08.220 and because they only found the top, the, the, the wig, right.

00:48:11.100 They, they only found the way, the keys, they didn't find her.

00:48:14.200 Right.

00:48:14.640 And so of course it was instantly you were condemned if you were white and you were not talking 0.91

00:48:18.240 about this because the reason why you don't know the story is because you're racist. 0.50

00:48:20.520 That's why.

00:48:20.960 Right.

00:48:21.120 If you didn't share a story and try to get her, it's because black girls don't get any 1.00

00:48:23.660 love, blah, blah, blah.

00:48:24.240 Long story short, she turns up 49 hours later at her parents' house and she's in a, like

00:48:29.940 a catatonic, catatonic state and she won't talk to the police, but you know, so there's

00:48:33.880 this like long wait to figure out what happened and they're going, why aren't you telling us

00:48:37.600 like where the toddler is?

00:48:38.760 Like, she's just like, they're like, her family's like, leave us alone.

00:48:41.540 She needs to heal mentally. 0.96

00:48:42.700 And I was instantly like, this is Jesse Smellett.

00:48:44.600 Yeah.

00:48:45.240 Whoa.

00:48:45.500 And it ended up being worse than Jesse Smellett as in like, she snatched her own wig.

00:48:50.380 She told the police a story that like some guy with red balding hair, Prince Harry type

00:48:55.300 character, took her into the woods.

00:48:57.880 Might have been him, but he's not strong enough.

00:48:59.860 Threw her over a fence, put her in an 18-wheeler, fed her Cheez-Its.

00:49:04.180 I mean, you got to get it.

00:49:05.300 It is like, like she makes Jesse Smellett look like child's play.

00:49:09.460 And you know what?

00:49:10.080 You know why, Candace, the only reason you're talking about this is because you're all racist.

00:49:14.720 I know.

00:49:15.260 And then they did that.

00:49:15.800 Then they switched and they said, you better talk about it.

00:49:18.100 And then if you started talking about it within 70 hours, they were like, how dare you have

00:49:22.180 any questions?

00:49:23.120 But you just told me.

00:49:24.120 You just told us to be all the time about it.

00:49:25.720 It is a glorious story.

00:49:27.280 Wow.

00:49:27.380 It's like, you cannot miss it because it's better than Jesse Smellett.

00:49:30.500 Okay.

00:49:30.700 And it's, it's.

00:49:31.820 So the question is, is Pfizer more credible than this person?

00:49:37.020 Yes.

00:49:42.340 Yeah, man.

00:49:42.940 At least she didn't poison the world. 0.95

00:49:43.900 I know.

00:49:44.220 She didn't poison the world. 0.82

00:49:44.880 At the end of the day, I trust Harley Russo more than I trust Pfizer.

00:49:51.140 Obviously.

00:49:52.020 Easy.

00:49:52.880 Easy.

00:49:53.520 Okay.

00:49:55.460 I've cried in the past year.

00:49:58.380 The past year?

00:50:04.700 Actually, we'll need to define cry.

00:50:06.660 Oh.

00:50:07.840 Okay.

00:50:08.380 Got it.

00:50:08.940 We'll need to define cry.

00:50:09.800 I personally feel like you cried this morning.

00:50:15.280 I, well, it depends how you, so.

00:50:17.440 You did.

00:50:18.000 I cry, I did.

00:50:19.280 Because I thought, I have the joy of drinking with Candace today.

00:50:23.420 It was tears of joy.

00:50:24.780 No, I, I have cried.

00:50:27.540 You know, deaths in the family kind of thing.

00:50:29.640 But not, but is it a cry?

00:50:32.940 If you, because I feel that the way I cried was very manly.

00:50:36.460 Yeah.

00:50:36.680 And the way I cried is the way a man ought to cry, which is, you know, at the moment 0.99

00:50:39.960 of intense, you know, you're at the funeral or something and this loved one is, is, you

00:50:44.340 know, being sent, sent off.

00:50:46.280 You kind of let a, you know, a tear or two.

00:50:48.740 Yeah.

00:50:48.960 It's like a, yes, but it's, but you hold it.

00:50:51.060 It's not like, you know, like Johnny Fontaine in The Godfather.

00:50:54.380 I don't know.

00:50:54.860 You know, it's just like, you kind of let the one, you kind of, you don't even kind of

00:50:57.800 just wipe it away like that.

00:50:59.000 So I've done that.

00:50:59.700 I've done that.

00:51:00.480 But I haven't started bawling.

00:51:02.620 In the last year, no bawling.

00:51:04.180 No bawling.

00:51:04.660 You weren't like, only B-A-L-L-I-N apostrophe. 1.00

00:51:08.440 I'm bawling all the time, but I have not been bawling.

00:51:11.620 Yes.

00:51:12.160 I actually can think of one time in the past year that I was, I'm not a big crier, but

00:51:16.280 she would think it's weird, but I just, I don't cry a lot.

00:51:18.520 You're pretty tough.

00:51:19.320 Yeah.

00:51:19.520 But I boo-hoo, boo-hooed, cried in, it was just way too much stress going on in my life.

00:51:25.580 I think in October where, I mean, it was just a month where I think Savannah and I traveled

00:51:31.060 26 days out of 30 days.

00:51:32.920 We had the Kanye controversy going on.

00:51:35.300 The documentary was coming out, Savannah literally almost died in Paris, like of an allergic

00:51:40.520 reaction.

00:51:41.460 I just remember, and then I got home, don't forget I was postpartum, and then all my hair

00:51:45.420 started falling out at the same time.

00:51:47.380 Because my-

00:51:47.800 Because you know, you get like postpartum shedding.

00:51:49.620 Yeah, yeah.

00:51:50.000 And I just remember, like I was in the shower and like the hair-

00:51:52.600 Yeah.

00:51:53.080 I was holding in my hands and it was like during all this stuff going on, I just-

00:51:55.940 I was like, I can't.

00:51:56.840 Women take that very hard. 1.00

00:51:58.340 I was like, please, just make something stop.

00:52:02.700 So that was a tough month, obviously.

00:52:04.760 But every woman takes that so hard, but it's a natural thing. 0.56

00:52:09.160 It's a natural thing.

00:52:09.960 But they all start crying.

00:52:11.160 Yeah, I think for me, it was just like, if it had just happened by itself-

00:52:14.460 You might have-

00:52:15.100 Without like Kanye West, anti-Semitism scandal, George Floyd documentary coming out, like everything

00:52:20.900 that was happening, Savannah literally almost dying in Paris.

00:52:23.820 And I just was like, I was like, I can take nothing else.

00:52:27.160 And then I take a shower in my hair.

00:52:29.060 And I was like, that's the limit, wow.

00:52:31.340 And I boo-hoo cried by myself in the shower.

00:52:33.640 And that's the only time I can think of in the last year where I like properly boo-hoo cried.

00:52:37.140 Yeah.

00:52:37.640 And it was nice.

00:52:38.660 I get why people like to cry.

00:52:39.800 Cathartic.

00:52:39.980 Yeah, it's nice.

00:52:40.480 It was cathartic.

00:52:41.260 And I felt better after.

00:52:43.100 No, I didn't because my hair was still in my head.

00:52:44.680 It was still gone.

00:52:46.100 It's back now looking beautiful.

00:52:47.140 It grew back.

00:52:47.820 It grew back.

00:52:48.300 It's fine.

00:52:48.960 And my daughter's really cute.

00:52:51.240 Louise is really cute.

00:52:52.080 She was worth it.

00:52:53.300 My goddaughter, absolutely.

00:52:54.940 She is a very cute- 0.98

00:52:55.880 Both of your children are very cute.

00:52:56.940 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:52:57.860 She's so sweet.

00:52:58.820 Georgie is just-

00:52:59.320 But Georgie is a tough, tough little guy.

00:53:01.260 Georgie, I'm scared of him.

00:53:02.660 Yes.

00:53:03.260 Because he's already like-

00:53:04.620 He's just such a guy.

00:53:05.640 Yeah, he's already like riding motorcycles is the thing.

00:53:08.080 He's very advanced.

00:53:08.960 Everyone says, oh, my child's very advanced.

00:53:10.740 Your children, both of them, are very advanced.

00:53:13.580 He told me to build him a house yesterday.

00:53:15.120 And I was like, that's not a normal sentence from a two-year-old.

00:53:17.320 Like I said, don't hit your sister.

00:53:18.760 And he said, no, build me a house.

00:53:20.560 And I pointed at the end.

00:53:22.000 I was like, this is, I'm not-

00:53:23.000 That's not a normal-

00:53:23.580 I don't have the tools in the shed.

00:53:25.200 I didn't ask you if it was a normal mummy. 0.92

00:53:27.020 Now get to building.

00:53:28.640 So, two-year-olds are crazy.

00:53:30.340 We all know that.

00:53:31.180 We're terrorists.

00:53:32.000 I'll drink anyway.

00:53:32.800 Yeah, you drank.

00:53:33.920 Because I cried and I lost my hair.

00:53:35.640 Nobody was there for me.

00:53:37.700 I'm up.

00:53:38.660 I haven't remembered a single one.

00:53:40.400 And I've had like four sips of this martini.

00:53:42.260 It's worse to be skinny fat than Jim Thicke.

00:53:50.720 Ooh.

00:53:52.640 Okay, I got mine.

00:53:59.540 Correct?

00:54:00.360 Correct.

00:54:00.980 Yeah, for sure.

00:54:02.080 Yeah, yeah.

00:54:02.640 For sure.

00:54:02.940 I totally think it's better.

00:54:04.700 It's a cope for the Jim Thicke bros who are trying to say otherwise.

00:54:08.100 But no, you know.

00:54:08.880 I know, I think it's better to be Jim Thicke so you're wrong.

00:54:14.020 Drink up.

00:54:15.080 Yeah, because then at least you know you're in shape.

00:54:17.200 What?

00:54:17.580 You know, whereas if you're skinny fat, then you're not strong.

00:54:21.320 You gotta get strong.

00:54:22.020 I'd like to point out that both the father of your children and the godfather of your daughter,

00:54:26.560 neither of us are Jim Thicke bros.

00:54:29.700 Yeah, but Jim Thicke could also be for girls.

00:54:33.220 Actually, I don't know, but I made you drink anyways.

00:54:35.320 You did.

00:54:35.840 That's fine.

00:54:36.360 Now I'm getting thicker by the set.

00:54:37.440 That's the point, yeah.

00:54:37.900 Going to the dentist is pointless and fake, much like recycling or taking women's studies 1.00

00:54:45.620 in college.

00:54:46.680 I'm just going to leave your cup right there.

00:54:53.340 Smile.

00:54:54.860 Smile.

00:55:00.600 I feel like you're a dentist, bro.

00:55:03.800 You are a dentist, bro.

00:55:07.260 Candice?

00:55:08.800 I could not tell you the last time I went to the dentist.

00:55:11.880 Oh my gosh.

00:55:13.080 No, I do use, I use a very fancy toothbrush.

00:55:15.780 Do you?

00:55:16.280 So that it stays, it's relatively white. 0.90

00:55:18.180 Even with all the cigars and the coffee and it's, they stay relatively white.

00:55:21.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:55:21.680 I don't.

00:55:22.680 Do you know, though?

00:55:23.180 You didn't smile when I asked you to smile.

00:55:24.520 So that was like, I don't want to give it away.

00:55:25.800 Trying to cheat, yeah.

00:55:26.240 Do you know the only time that I would go to the dentist?

00:55:31.080 230.

00:55:33.400 230.

00:55:33.960 What does that mean?

00:55:35.620 230.

00:55:36.180 Oh my gosh.

00:55:36.960 Dad jokes.

00:55:38.340 Oh my gosh.

00:55:39.660 Drink for that.

00:55:41.340 Happily.

00:55:41.840 Happily.

00:55:42.660 230.

00:55:44.140 Okay.

00:55:44.360 I actually, you got this right.

00:55:45.800 You did get this right.

00:55:46.760 I did.

00:55:47.560 Yeah.

00:55:48.580 You're not, so let me see.

00:55:49.980 I do.

00:55:50.300 You have actually beautiful teeth.

00:55:51.200 Because I love the orthodontist.

00:55:52.780 The ortho, but how do they stay so white?

00:55:54.820 I have an obsession with the orthodontist.

00:55:57.140 Well, I have an obsession with brushing my teeth.

00:55:58.600 I actually have a mental dental disorder.

00:56:01.280 Like, I think.

00:56:02.360 A mental dental.

00:56:03.200 I am constantly trying to perfect my teeth.

00:56:05.700 I go see the orthodontist.

00:56:06.860 They're excellent teeth.

00:56:07.780 I love my orthodontist.

00:56:09.180 Thank you.

00:56:10.120 You still go to the orthodontist?

00:56:10.940 I wish I could still wear my braces.

00:56:12.040 This kind of goes back to seventh grade when I thought my braces were cool.

00:56:15.000 I just, I have an affinity for the orthodontist.

00:56:18.760 You want to hear a secret?

00:56:19.540 I have never said this on her.

00:56:20.900 I wear my retainer every night.

00:56:22.700 I wear my retainer every day.

00:56:24.180 And Michael says that I have a problem.

00:56:25.800 She's like, why are you wearing a retainer?

00:56:26.780 I just wear it.

00:56:27.180 And I was just like, it just makes me feel safe.

00:56:29.620 By the way, if you take it out for like two nights, your teeth move around.

00:56:33.380 I know.

00:56:34.100 That's the whole point.

00:56:34.580 Even still.

00:56:35.260 I know.

00:56:36.240 So I actually was thinking about getting a metal bar in the back of my bottom row.

00:56:39.940 Because everyone has.

00:56:41.180 That's like body modification.

00:56:42.200 The point is, of all the mental disorders to have, many to choose from today, a mental

00:56:47.340 dental disorder is okay.

00:56:48.800 I think my orthodontist is tired of seeing me.

00:56:50.760 Yeah.

00:56:51.060 He's like, I can't fix.

00:56:52.140 I can't fix.

00:56:52.640 I can't.

00:56:53.040 I mostly see 11-year-olds.

00:56:54.440 I'm like, in the mirror, I'm like.

00:56:55.540 Candace, you're not.

00:56:56.520 You do, wow.

00:56:58.220 Yeah.

00:56:58.980 And you floss. 0.95

00:57:00.040 Oh, I floss.

00:57:00.900 Like a psycho.

00:57:01.620 Wow.

00:57:02.100 Yeah.

00:57:02.340 I love it.

00:57:02.780 I floss sort of annually.

00:57:05.380 I think the tobacco and the alcohol.

00:57:07.520 I think you're meant to be an Englishman.

00:57:09.380 I am.

00:57:10.300 I think it's like, yeah.

00:57:11.400 It's just get to Rowan and you'll be all right.

00:57:13.820 Yeah.

00:57:14.140 Oh, you're up.

00:57:16.560 A night of drinking and smoking with the boys is a healthy practice for married men. 0.98

00:57:23.000 Totally.

00:57:23.420 You would agree with that.

00:57:25.080 I know you would agree with that.

00:57:28.000 I know.

00:57:28.360 I would be shocked.

00:57:29.360 Well, you know that I agree with that.

00:57:30.760 But.

00:57:31.600 Yeah.

00:57:31.880 Guys need their guy time.

00:57:32.800 Thank you.

00:57:33.340 A hundred percent.

00:57:33.880 I felt 50-50.

00:57:35.120 Actually, I just wanted to be really confident.

00:57:35.860 It's like when George tells me when he comes back after you guys go to the cigar lounge,

00:57:38.800 he tells me what you guys talk about.

00:57:39.580 I'm like, I'm so glad you talked to Michael Knowles about that because I just don't want to talk about that.

00:57:42.140 I have no interest.

00:57:43.640 I know.

00:57:43.920 Could it be less interested in what you and Michael Knowles talked about?

00:57:46.060 It's a wonderful conversation about this.

00:57:48.920 It is my entire social life.

00:57:53.580 My entire like go out social life is going to the cigar lounge with your husband and maybe like one other guy or two other guys.

00:58:04.760 Yeah.

00:58:04.920 The same for my husband.

00:58:06.160 Yes.

00:58:06.380 And like he needs that.

00:58:07.180 And in the same way that women need their girl time. 1.00

00:58:09.340 And because women talk, we talk about really stupid things. 1.00

00:58:12.140 So I'm so compelled by political topics and whatever the dilemma is of the day.

00:58:16.900 But I also need to talk about really stupid basic things with my girlfriends, which is I find fascinating.

00:58:22.620 I'm like, no, can I share so much more than this?

00:58:23.980 Why do you care about this ridiculous scandal?

00:58:26.040 And I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

00:58:27.100 This is everything.

00:58:28.220 And it's not everything.

00:58:28.880 I know it's not everything.

00:58:29.420 And I'm very practical, but I'm still a woman.

00:58:31.940 It's pleasurable.

00:58:32.920 Yeah.

00:58:33.320 Because it's like it's relaxing.

00:58:35.060 Women like to gossip. 1.00

00:58:36.100 I mean, it really goes back to hunters and gatherers.

00:58:38.400 Men, I mean, it's just it's different.

00:58:39.680 Legitimately, over the countless hours and countless cigars and drinks with your husband

00:58:47.840 specifically, we have almost entirely talked about like routing the Saracens out of Jerusalem.

00:58:55.060 Yeah, it's really not fun talk for me, you know, and that's just not fun.

00:59:00.500 That's not relaxing to me.

00:59:01.600 I feel like you guys are just engaging your brains for fun.

00:59:04.500 Whereas like women, I'm impressed. 1.00

00:59:06.380 He'll be like, oh, I hope I saw Michael and he's giving you an example of when you guys

00:59:09.920 had your last kid.

00:59:11.040 Oh, and Alyssa's pregnant again.

00:59:12.300 I'm like, oh, is it a boy or a girl?

00:59:13.520 He's like, oh, I didn't ask.

00:59:14.720 What do you mean to ask?

00:59:15.300 I'm like, what do they do?

00:59:16.180 He's like, I didn't ask.

00:59:17.420 I'm like, what kind of information?

00:59:19.020 How are you not interested enough to ask these basic questions?

00:59:21.880 He's like, I don't know.

00:59:22.480 Men are just different.

00:59:23.000 I had that exact same conversation when I came back and I mentioned to Alyssa that for

00:59:27.620 the first time now, after two children, we're off track to keep up.

00:59:32.420 And I said, oh, yeah, you know, Candace is great. 0.99

00:59:34.080 She goes, oh, wow, that's so wonderful.

00:59:36.400 She said, oh, wow, that's so wonderful, man.

00:59:38.220 Well, did you answer what did George say?

00:59:40.260 Like, how far along is she?

00:59:41.780 And when?

00:59:42.120 And what is the sex?

00:59:43.120 And what?

00:59:43.340 I was like, how am I supposed to know that?

00:59:46.060 Unbelievable.

00:59:46.480 I don't know how you guys do this.

00:59:47.580 I'm like, George, what do you mean you don't want to ask this question?

00:59:51.180 I'm glad you're.

00:59:52.340 Like, yeah, men and women, this doesn't work the same.

00:59:56.140 Our interests are just very different.

01:00:00.080 I'm up.

01:00:00.700 You're up.

01:00:01.120 I get the last one.

01:00:01.900 You got the last one.

01:00:04.360 Not being white helped my career. 1.00

01:00:08.900 Okay, so you're answering as me.

01:00:11.240 Yeah.

01:00:11.640 And I'm answering as you.

01:00:12.680 But you are white. 0.94

01:00:15.320 So I'm very confused by this.

01:00:16.980 Not being white. 0.80

01:00:18.120 So if that is your premise that you're starting with, then you're going to have to answer

01:00:24.820 a certain way.

01:00:25.320 But okay, so not being white has helped my career. 0.97

01:00:31.040 Candice.

01:00:32.840 How could you be so foolish?

01:00:34.400 What?

01:00:35.580 But you are white. 0.94

01:00:37.140 Candice.

01:00:37.580 The Sicilians are racially liminal people.

01:00:42.920 They're very marginal.

01:00:44.220 And back, look, in my wayward youth, I made a number of mistakes.

01:00:48.380 One of which was I was briefly a professional actor.

01:00:51.600 And I did some little parts in TV shows and movies and things like that, plays.

01:00:56.160 Now, they classify you when you're an actor.

01:01:00.400 Are you white?

01:01:01.240 Are you black?

01:01:02.120 Are you ethnically ambiguous?

01:01:05.720 Now, I, having a little bit, so I'm a little lighter right now.

01:01:10.660 In California, it was darker.

01:01:13.200 When you're a little ethnically ambiguous, one time, I got a great, this was the job that

01:01:19.340 got me eligible for SAG, the Screen Actors Guild, which is a terrible unit, actually.

01:01:24.920 I got to play the white part and the Hispanic part.

01:01:29.780 Wow.

01:01:30.160 Because I was ethnically ambiguous.

01:01:31.820 And putting my wayward youth, my indiscretions of my past aside, I think about my actual life

01:01:39.520 and career.

01:01:40.920 I actually believe being a little bit darker has allowed me to be a little bit edgier when

01:01:47.680 I talk about certain topics.

01:01:49.040 So if you were Irish looking.

01:01:50.420 Far Irish, Nordic. 0.95

01:01:51.740 I think I actually, if I were really waspy looking, I don't think I'd get away with being 1.00

01:01:55.960 as loose.

01:01:56.160 So if you looked like George.

01:01:57.660 George, I would not get away with that.

01:01:59.160 I could carry Thor's hammer around.

01:02:01.200 Right.

01:02:01.380 I would not be able to opine.

01:02:02.860 The, the Mediterranean's and the darker, you know this in popular culture, the Italians 1.00

01:02:08.400 get away with a lot more.

01:02:09.520 Yeah.

01:02:10.080 They get away with crime.

01:02:11.080 Yeah.

01:02:11.680 It's true.

01:02:12.400 Lewdness.

01:02:12.880 Uh-huh.

01:02:13.760 Obscenity.

01:02:14.260 No, it's true.

01:02:14.940 They do.

01:02:15.280 It is.

01:02:15.620 It is a minority.

01:02:16.820 Yes, because it's kind of a minority.

01:02:18.300 Also, you guys were treated like absolute dirt when you got here.

01:02:20.300 We were, actually.

01:02:21.260 People never talk about that.

01:02:22.320 I'm like, if you want to talk about like people that should be upset about things that happened

01:02:25.000 in yesteryear, the Italians were treated like dogs when they got here.

01:02:28.500 Numbers wise, the Italians were not the most lynched people.

01:02:31.500 Also Irish.

01:02:32.180 Irish need not apply. 1.00

01:02:33.560 Do you know the, the largest mass lynching in American history?

01:02:37.120 No, I don't.

01:02:37.960 The Italians. 0.76

01:02:39.200 11 Italians in New Orleans.

01:02:40.660 Wow.

01:02:41.120 I didn't know that.

01:02:41.760 That's a very fun fact.

01:02:43.080 That is.

01:02:43.500 And people, nobody knows it.

01:02:44.620 Now, you know, it wasn't like numbers wise, I would say probably black people were the majority

01:02:49.460 of lynchings, but largest, it was the Italians. 0.64

01:02:52.380 A lot of people, everybody can claim a little bit of historical oppression.

01:02:56.960 Okay.

01:02:57.200 So why did you pick yes for me?

01:02:59.100 Well, because you have this, you know, you have this great ability, which is you come

01:03:04.640 out, right?

01:03:05.760 Compliment me.

01:03:06.600 I will.

01:03:07.300 You come out and you're in this culture.

01:03:09.440 You didn't choose to be in this culture, but you're in this culture that says, if you're

01:03:13.700 black, you've got to be a big lib. 0.82

01:03:15.680 Lib, and we'll reward you for being a big lib, by the way, but you've got to be a big

01:03:19.740 lib and you'll be this advantaged ethnic background and white people are terrible and just go along 1.00

01:03:27.900 with us.

01:03:28.600 And then you come out and you say, no, actually, that's all a bunch of BS and here's why it's

01:03:34.780 BS.

01:03:35.660 And especially in the early part of your career, you just kind of laid it out flat.

01:03:38.760 And so you were punished for that initially by the mainstream.

01:03:42.520 But I think you were ultimately rewarded because it just, it put you in this position where

01:03:48.120 you uniquely were listened to, you uniquely were hated, you uniquely were threatened, you

01:03:54.160 uniquely were, but it, it, it blew you up into the mainstream.

01:03:59.540 Yeah.

01:04:00.120 Where now you can talk about whatever you want.

01:04:01.240 It was a perfect moment too, because it was, people were just so much more vicious, I think,

01:04:05.120 because they were like, how, it's one thing to say you're a black conservative, but how

01:04:07.880 could you support Trump?

01:04:08.820 Yeah, yeah.

01:04:09.600 How could you, how could you be, look, there are plenty of black conservatives, but you're 1.00

01:04:13.120 kind of vocal.

01:04:14.200 You're, you're a real conservative.

01:04:16.260 I'm also very vocal, which I always say, Dr. Ben Carson, he was so sweet when I met him

01:04:20.260 and he was like, you know, you've been able to do so much more in terms of communicating

01:04:23.380 your ideas than I was throughout my career.

01:04:25.080 And obviously he's a literal brain surgeon.

01:04:26.980 He's obviously much more brilliant than I am.

01:04:29.520 Do you remember at the debate, I said, what's your most thing you're proudest of?

01:04:32.620 And then everyone said, oh, I beat this Democrat or whatever.

01:04:34.500 And he goes, I separated conjoined twins of the head.

01:04:38.660 Casual, same.

01:04:41.300 But he, and I remember saying to him, it's because you were way too polite, you know?

01:04:45.860 And I think that's the difference is there's a certain decorum to like Dr. Ben Carson and

01:04:51.780 Dr. Condoleezza Rice.

01:04:53.320 And they're just sort of like, I'm not going to engage when they get called an Uncle Tom

01:04:55.780 and a coon.

01:04:56.140 And I'm just like, no, I'm, I'm here and I'm willing to engage.

01:04:59.240 Like I will 100% get into an argument with somebody.

01:05:02.160 And I think that that sort of startled people because typically black conservatives were 0.97

01:05:05.020 just shut down, you know?

01:05:06.720 And when they said something, it was like, you're a traitor, you're a race traitor, whatever.

01:05:09.740 And people were like, okay.

01:05:10.500 You also did this thing, which it just means you took the opportunity.

01:05:15.840 It doesn't, this doesn't have to do with your race, but it means you took the opportunity

01:05:18.260 where a lot of times someone becomes, I'm the black conservative.

01:05:21.340 They'll just stay there in that little box.

01:05:23.620 And you said, like, I don't know, I'll talk about race sometimes, but I have many more

01:05:26.880 things to say.

01:05:27.420 And so you even kind of, you kind of beat them at that game where you said, no, I'm

01:05:32.960 actually, I'm going to talk about vaccines.

01:05:35.180 I'm going to talk about religion.

01:05:36.500 I'm going to talk about this.

01:05:37.920 I'm going to talk about Trump.

01:05:38.880 I'm going to talk about that.

01:05:39.720 I'm going to talk about foreign policy.

01:05:40.660 I'm going to talk about Russia.

01:05:41.320 I'm going to talk.

01:05:41.980 And it just totally.

01:05:44.240 Yeah.

01:05:44.460 I actually have a sitting article that somebody wrote and they called my topics on my podcast,

01:05:48.180 the unholy conservative gumbo.

01:05:51.480 I quite like that.

01:05:52.120 He was meant to be insulting.

01:05:55.360 And I was like, and it's actually a really funny article, but I agree.

01:05:58.420 There's no question that, but I always question my head.

01:06:01.720 I'm like, what if I did it as a liberal?

01:06:04.120 Like, what if I was Candace Owens and I was, yeah, George Floyd dies.

01:06:08.900 I'm front and center.

01:06:09.940 I'm doing the media circuit at MSNBC and CNN.

01:06:13.040 And I'm debating Michael Knowles, right?

01:06:16.700 Talking about how amazing Greta Thunberg is and how the environment, you don't care about

01:06:21.260 the environment because you don't have to breathe the same air.

01:06:24.100 Black people have to breathe, whatever. 1.00

01:06:25.580 I think I would have.

01:06:26.460 You'd be richer.

01:06:27.060 I'd be richer.

01:06:27.940 You'd be richer.

01:06:28.280 I would, the deals, think about it.

01:06:30.100 What they would have given to me.

01:06:30.980 Look at Van Jones.

01:06:31.940 Yeah, yeah.

01:06:32.220 Freaking, freaking Jeff Bezos for no reason gave him $30 million.

01:06:36.300 Yeah.

01:06:36.580 I would be so much richer.

01:06:39.240 And that's what I tell people.

01:06:40.120 I'm like, if I was a liberal, I would have done it so much better than you.

01:06:43.040 So much better than you.

01:06:44.620 That's true.

01:06:45.420 It may be.

01:06:46.000 They're like, you went to a Republican side because it paid.

01:06:47.640 I'm like, girl, if I wanted to make money, all I had to do was say Black Lives Matter

01:06:51.900 and be the same Candace Owens.

01:06:54.300 That's it.

01:06:55.140 Go after conservatives.

01:06:56.140 Would have had a good time.

01:06:56.920 Right.

01:06:57.100 It would have helped your career.

01:06:58.060 Crushed Matt Walsh.

01:06:59.160 You would have destroyed him.

01:06:59.980 That would have been a great advantage.

01:07:00.940 Crushed him.

01:07:01.500 Yeah.

01:07:02.320 If you had done that, your career would have benefited materially and in the short term.

01:07:07.960 Yeah.

01:07:09.420 Your soul would have been destroyed.

01:07:11.460 Yeah.

01:07:12.500 Candace?

01:07:13.400 To your health.

01:07:14.400 To your child.

01:07:15.340 I'll drink for the two of us.

01:07:17.560 The pleasure is always.

01:07:18.640 We'll see you next time.

01:07:19.620 And I'll see you.

01:07:20.640 See you next time.

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The Michael Knowles Show - August 05, 2023

YES or NO with Candace Owens

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