The Mikhaila Peterson Podcast - Insane Results in Assisted Living Homes ｜ Hal Cranmer EP 208

00:00:00.000 How many of your residents, what percentage are actually on a carnivore diet?

00:00:05.920 We have 25 to 30 percent. In about nine years of doing this, I've probably had seven people

00:00:12.420 move back home. That's crazy. A lot of businesses are trying to cut costs. How can we keep the food

00:00:18.980 budget low? Or how can we make food an attractive marketing thing? You know, beautiful pies and

00:00:25.340 cakes and ice cream with all kinds of frosty decorations on them well that's great and looks

00:00:30.860 wonderful but it's not going to help their health i get people come in in pretty rough shape they

00:00:35.820 don't move into assisted living when they're diabetic they move in when they're diabetic and

00:00:40.540 they've got the foot amputated and they're going blind and their dementia is kicking in so it's not

00:00:44.940 like i can just make this miraculous they're back to normal kind of thing but we can definitely make

00:00:50.700 progress. Hell Cranmer, welcome to my podcast. It's wonderful to be here. Thank you for inviting

00:00:59.240 me, Michaela. I'm really excited to cover what you do, but before we get started, can you give

00:01:04.760 me a brief background about what it is you do? Sure. I own four assisted living homes in the

00:01:12.180 Phoenix area. Um, most assisted living are big, large facilities, uh, maybe a hundred beds or so

00:01:20.440 minor residential homes fit about, we're licensed for 10 residents in each home. We have a caregiving

00:01:27.260 staff that takes care of them 24 hours a day, seven days a week, 365. Um, and, um, we try to

00:01:35.980 make them as healthy as we can. Okay. So, so let's get into this. I reached out to have you on

00:01:41.820 because I heard that you monitor the diet of people who are in your homes. And I haven't

00:01:48.940 heard of any other assisted living places that do that, which is crazy. Um, this last summer,

00:01:55.360 I had two grandparents pass away and one of them, very old guy, he was like 93. So he had,

00:02:03.620 he had a great life, but he was put into assisted living at the end and he can't tolerate gluten at

00:02:09.280 all as many people can't. And my mom was just driven crazy because they kept feeding him gluten.

00:02:15.880 He kept falling asleep. She was like, can you just stop? And there was like, there were no

00:02:20.820 healthy options. And that was just what it looked like. And there were no options. So what, what it

00:02:26.660 is, what is it that you do with, um, your elderly people? It's elderly people, right? For assisted

00:02:32.360 living. It's primarily elderly people. We do get younger people come in that have some kind of

00:02:38.660 chronic health condition um that that may be you know hopefully we can get them better but they may

00:02:46.740 be spending the rest of their lives in assisted living the youngest i've had um i think was 38

00:02:52.380 oh man yeah and uh so uh i had a 40 year old lady that um we she came to us very overweight she'd

00:03:02.140 spent nine years in a skilled nursing facility so she was she entered that facility when she was 31

00:03:07.980 um we we got her down 230 pounds in nine months on the carnivore diet

00:03:14.620 and moved her to assist to independent living so um yeah so you know we can't we would focus

00:03:23.560 on the elderly people but we can help the younger ones as well with the chronic diseases so i really

00:03:29.860 focus on uh low carb meals as much as i can um i have a varying degree of acceptance of that with

00:03:37.360 the families. I'm hoping that someday I can just divert families to a place that's not into what

00:03:44.940 I'm doing if they don't want that. But I still want to help as many as I can. Some families just

00:03:50.640 have trouble with their mom just eating meat. So we have ketogenic meals. And then if the family

00:03:57.720 wants to bring in extra food or something, they want something different than that. I just tell

00:04:02.840 them bring it to them in their room yeah away from everyone else and and leave with any leftovers

00:04:08.320 because i don't want everyone else to go well how come they get the ice cream we don't that kind of

00:04:12.900 thing yeah but most of the families are very on board once they see what we're doing they're really

00:04:18.400 on board and when the department of health comes in and inspects us they're like wow you've got

00:04:23.820 like the healthiest assisted living residents we've seen and we're not doing anything that

00:04:28.740 complicated okay so how many of your what do what would you say patients residents residents how how

00:04:36.340 many of your residents or what percentage are actually on a carnivore diet i would say we have

00:04:42.140 probably 25 to 30 percent that's crazy okay and then a good percentage of those are on a ketogenic

00:04:50.520 diet most of the others are on a ketogenic diet um i i don't know if you've heard of a lady named

00:04:56.700 Maria Emmerich but she she heard me on one of my other podcasts and sent me all her cookbooks and

00:05:03.340 we became friends oh yeah and she's a wonderful lady and I hired a health coach that's certified

00:05:08.640 by her to really and she's very good at making meals that look like normal meals even processed

00:05:16.360 food meals and um and yet they're getting a very low-carb nutritious meal out of it so we've been

00:05:23.020 our cooks have been embracing her recipes along with sort of other research they've done so even

00:05:30.060 the ones that are kind of hesitant about it we just show them they're having a normal meal and

00:05:35.060 they're you know that here's your keto lasagna for tonight and it works wow okay so what kind

00:05:42.640 of differences do you see in residence do you see differences when they come in and then when

00:05:48.800 they've stayed there for a while time, uh, for a while. And then have you had people leave and go

00:05:53.240 back home? So in, in about nine years of doing this, I've probably had seven people move back

00:06:00.060 home. That's crazy. Yeah. So are these elderly people? Elderly people move back home. Yeah.

00:06:06.980 And a few, one or two young people too, but mostly elderly people. Um, the ones that move back home,

00:06:14.380 they come in with the attitude of i want to be go home everyone comes into our homes with i don't

00:06:20.680 want to be here i want to live at home i want to die at home but some of them are like wow you're

00:06:26.380 taking care of me doing all my laundry cooking all my meals you know and sort of gradually settle in

00:06:31.360 others the ones that really want to move back home are like every day i'm getting closer you know

00:06:36.960 they really want to move back home so they work really hard at it but even if i can get them

00:06:41.660 where they're well enough that their family can take them out of the home to go to a restaurant

00:06:47.800 for dinner or they can go home for a weekend or they can go um for the holidays you know to to

00:06:55.200 visit friends we had a guy uh go on a cruise with his family and we sent a caregiver we let him

00:07:02.720 borrow a caregiver they paid for her cruise and she kind of watched over him while he was on the

00:07:07.720 Cruz he was 98 years old and came back passed away six months later but biggest smile on his face for

00:07:15.560 those six months because he had a wonderful time with his family so even if I can't get you home

00:07:21.340 I can get you you know to enjoy life a little and it's not every day wake up get in the recliner

00:07:28.380 watch tv eat go back to bed kind of thing and and that's my goal I mean I'd love to send everyone

00:07:34.980 home but i get people come in it in pretty rough shape a lot of the times they don't move into

00:07:40.860 assisted living when they're you know diabetic you know they move in when they're diabetic and

00:07:46.740 they've got the foot amputated and they're going blind and their dementia is kicking in and you

00:07:50.900 know that kind of thing so it's not like i can just make this miraculous they're back to normal

00:07:57.620 kind of thing but we can definitely make progress with them that's crazy okay well first off

00:08:04.240 congratulations thank you and then that's that's like hopefully my hope is this kind of thing

00:08:14.360 spreads and it's just implemented everywhere because the quality of food in hospitals and in

00:08:20.460 long-term living and in these areas where people are stuck is so bad it's shocking that that's

00:08:27.320 allowed so i guess my first question would be have you had any like how did you get away with

00:08:33.660 this kind of, not that it's not the right thing to do, but why are you allowed to do it? Is there

00:08:37.360 any pushback? Um, I can't speak to hospitals. I don't run a hospital, but in assisted living,

00:08:44.980 uh, the Arizona department of health services regulates us. Uh, and that's what my license

00:08:51.260 is with. They come in and inspect us and they have a whole bunch of rules and guidelines and

00:08:57.080 And they have, you know, the guidelines more are the food pyramid, the ones that we all

00:09:03.740 make fun of and everything.

00:09:06.100 And the mandatory thing is they want a menu posted of the next week's meals.

00:09:12.400 Yeah.

00:09:12.720 They don't seem to really clamp down on what's posted on that menu, but they want you to

00:09:18.820 be able to tell the residents and their family what you're going to be serving over the next

00:09:22.740 week.

00:09:22.960 Okay.

00:09:23.840 So I just, you know, they're very picky about coming in and, okay, you're taking trazodone

00:09:30.180 and it's 50 milligrams twice a day.

00:09:31.980 Show me your Mediset container that has two pills in there, you know, very, which they

00:09:36.860 should be with prescription drugs, but they really don't, you know, they're looking in

00:09:41.180 the fridge to make sure there's not spoiled food or out of date food or things like that.

00:09:45.560 But what food you have in there, they didn't.

00:09:47.900 So that's what got me thinking is, well, I, no one seems to care what I serve them.

00:09:52.960 so let's see if we can serve them something healthy and make them better and that's so really

00:09:58.700 it's it's not so much you have to serve certain food it's you can serve whatever you want so a

00:10:05.680 lot of businesses are trying to cut costs so they're how can we keep the food budget low or

00:10:11.520 how can we make food an attractive marketing thing so we can make you know beautiful pies and cakes

00:10:18.560 and ice cream with all kinds of frosty decorations on them and you know those kind of things well

00:10:24.180 that's great and looks wonderful but it's not going to help their health any yeah have you

00:10:30.120 have you had residents with cognitive decline show improvement on the carnivore diet or on

00:10:36.460 the ketogenic diet i i have one resident who moved back came to us um showing a score on a mocha test

00:10:45.660 i don't know if you know what the mocha test no what's the mocha test but i can't even remember

00:10:49.760 what it stands for but it's it's a a quest uh it's a bunch of questions sheet of paper

00:10:55.100 uh that that helps to diagnose dementia and the scores are from zero to 30 zero to 21 i think is

00:11:04.060 you have some kind of cognitive decline dementia 21 through 26 is like mild cognitive decline

00:11:11.560 you're starting in dimension then 27 to 30 would be you or me you know normal people so this lady

00:11:17.540 came to us scoring a 15 on her mocha she left us um like seven or eight months later scoring a um

00:11:27.260 26 she was just crazy almost to the normal range yeah she's living in an apartment seattle

00:11:34.560 she and marianne wreck are now good friends um she's thinking of moving down here and helping

00:11:39.600 me with all this stuff. No wonder. And she's a keto fanatic. So, um, but we're seeing other

00:11:46.840 people's memory improve. I've got a guy in my house who came to us on hospice with a couple

00:11:52.300 months to live. He's completely off hospice. He was barely able to stand up. He's walking around

00:11:57.660 and he's, he was nonverbal. He's starting to talk and, and recognize his wife. He comes and hugs his

00:12:04.180 wife now and things like that so yes we are seeing memory improvements we're seeing improved

00:12:10.680 mocha scores um it does make a difference it's it's a lot slower like i can fix diabetes really

00:12:17.520 quick uh type two anyway the the um the dementia and alzheimer's is a lot tougher yeah yeah we had

00:12:27.760 And my mom's sister, my grandma died from dementia, like fairly, fairly young, in her

00:12:36.260 fifties.

00:12:37.500 Terrible, just terrible disease.

00:12:39.720 It's the worst disease ever.

00:12:41.880 Yeah.

00:12:42.600 My uncle died of ALS, Lou Gehrig's disease.

00:12:44.960 Oh, I had a three-uncle.

00:12:45.600 That's the worst, I think, but Alzheimer's, pretty close to the worst.

00:12:49.200 No, that's true.

00:12:50.040 ALS, yeah, I had a great uncle pass away from ALS.

00:12:52.720 That's brutal.

00:12:53.680 Yes. But of what I've seen, Alzheimer's is the next worst one. And Parkinson's isn't so hot

00:13:01.580 either. But yes, Parkinson's, there seems to be some interesting stuff too. So we don't just do

00:13:07.660 the food with Alzheimer's too. We have a outside company consultant group called a Mind for All

00:13:14.220 Seasons that they come in if people want to put their mom or dad on the program and do a whole

00:13:21.000 bunch of blood work so we could Alzheimer's there's a lot of contributing factors to getting

00:13:27.800 Alzheimer's disease and there's like 36 to 40 different contributing factors whether it's

00:13:36.600 toxins in your body whether it's inflammation insulin resistance vitamin mineral deficiencies

00:13:43.600 there's all these different so we we send them out to a lab and they get a ton of blood work

00:13:49.600 um to and we get a report from this group of here's all the things that are wrong with them

00:13:55.520 so not only do we do the food but we also do supplementation with different vitamins we do

00:14:01.820 red light therapy we do saunas things like that to sort of just attack alzheimer's from all around

00:14:08.720 the toxic toxic loads in people's bodies directly contribute to alzheimer's the glyphosate the

00:14:15.900 mold the uh chemicals that you may have been around during your working life that kind of thing

00:14:22.060 so uh anything we can do to detoxify them as well as well as food helps detoxify we give them stuff

00:14:29.540 like glutathione things like that depending on the results of those labs wow so do you guys

00:14:36.500 monitor air quality in there too mold somewhat i think a lot of people come to arizona because

00:14:43.940 mold isn't such a big deal here that that's what it can be i mean i've had a leaky roof so if we

00:14:51.000 i have people come in and check for mold yeah but i don't i i'm not as good at doing all the

00:14:57.180 hepa filters and things like that that may be the next thing just managing all what i'm doing right

00:15:02.680 now it's challenging oh my gosh no what you're doing is incredible the reason i moved to arizona

00:15:07.560 was because i got hit with mold in florida i didn't know that oh florida this is like living

00:15:12.020 in a swamp i lived in florida for seven years i know i got i got quite ill fairly rapidly even

00:15:18.760 and i was like i had non-toxic products i'm on a carnivore diet i was like what is happening and

00:15:25.560 finally realized uh we had mold in our hvac and i was like okay desert move into the desert yeah

00:15:32.660 no the mold you get here is your showers leaking yeah yeah yeah or you know after a big rainstorm

00:15:39.760 if you just don't do anything about it kind of but it's it's not very common yeah yeah agreed

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00:16:37.240 background i could probably take up the whole podcast with that i i started like i went to the

00:16:45.160 air force academy in colorado springs the military academy so i wanted to be a pilot my whole life

00:16:51.740 um i got out of there i flew some diplomatic airlift out of japan for a couple years i went

00:16:58.480 down to florida i flew for the air force special operations command i flew c130s uh went to bosnia

00:17:05.560 kosovo all those kind of things um got out flew for an airline for a couple years uh u.s air

00:17:13.540 and then 9-11 happened and it kind of ended my flying career there were just no jobs half the

00:17:19.180 pilots in America were laid off. And so I went into manufacturing. It was the only job I could

00:17:25.660 find up in Minnesota. My sister-in-law got me a job at her company. I was a financial auditor.

00:17:32.700 Then I went into supply chain. I rose up to be a plant manager of a big aerospace machining plant.

00:17:38.420 Wow. But I was doing some rental properties on the side,

00:17:42.500 flipping houses kind of thing dealing with a lot of mold um and uh another investor told me

00:17:49.540 um hey you should look into assisted living it cash flows better and i was writing to like a

00:17:55.300 bunch of college kids and they're like they don't have keg parties in assisted living so i uh i

00:18:01.480 looked into it we'd i went i actually went to flight school at the old mesa gateway airport

00:18:07.120 it used to be called Williams Air Force Base. And so we'd always wanted to move back to Arizona,

00:18:13.600 my kids wanted to go to ASU and everything like that. So I took a class in assisted living down

00:18:18.420 here, liked what I saw. The guy who taught the class at a realtor, he's like, I got a bunch of

00:18:24.340 homes for sale, if you're interested. And I'm like, yeah, I'm interested. So we'll talk to my

00:18:29.420 wife, we took the leap of faith and moved down here and been doing assisted living for about

00:18:34.920 nine years now. And then how did you get into assisted living and then decide to implement

00:18:41.440 like strategies for health? Cause that doesn't, that doesn't happen. It's more like normal

00:18:47.780 assisted living is like maintenance, trying to remove pain and death. It's not, let's get you

00:18:54.340 better in here. Right? Absolutely. So, um, when I got into assisted living, I,

00:19:02.080 I looked around and was just like wait a minute we just let them sit here till they die and

00:19:09.560 everyone's like well no that we you know change their diapers and we you know give them activities

00:19:17.200 bingo and stuff and we you know give them showers but the medical people come in and take care of

00:19:24.360 their health we don't really do that stuff or we feed them that kind of thing and I'm like

00:19:29.300 but the medical people aren't I mean yes they're not dying right away they're not getting any

00:19:35.940 better they're like well they're old so they don't get better and I'm like well that's bs yeah so I

00:19:43.840 just started googling stuff I mean I'd always been a workout kind of guy I'd like to I wasn't a huge

00:19:50.460 diet guy I just thought I could out work out a bad diet you know like everyone thinks so I just

00:19:56.980 started going, I had one guy who was another pilot. It was really one of the great things

00:20:02.060 about assisted living is you meet these people who were part of history. This guy was a pilot

00:20:07.120 in the Berlin airlift. Wow. And he came in and he gave me the, I don't want to be here. I want to

00:20:12.620 go home. And I'm like, well, how badly? And he's like, really badly. I want to be with my wife.

00:20:17.860 And so, um, I said, okay, well, we're going to just take away the sugar. We're going to,

00:20:23.640 you're not going to eat dessert okay we're going to have salads and lean meat and you know what i

00:20:29.200 just my mom told me was good for you and i hired a trainer to work with him and in about four or

00:20:37.360 five months i said you the deal is if you can get out of that wheelchair and walk and get in your

00:20:42.360 wife's car you can leave and in four months he got out and walked down the sidewalk got in his

00:20:49.980 wife car and they left. And I was like, we should do that for other people. Um, so I just, I just

00:20:58.500 started Googling and searched on the internet and, and, and I went through, uh, the trainer was a

00:21:05.380 big, was a vegetarian. So he's like, Oh, you got to do the vegan thing. That'll get them all healthy

00:21:10.620 and everything. So we tried that next. I hired some vegan nutritionists and they gave me lists

00:21:18.120 of ingredients that i had to like run all over town trying to find these weird spices and vegetables

00:21:23.440 and things like that and i'm like i don't have time for this i'm running four homes i gotta fill

00:21:27.820 them i gotta you know deal with inspections all this kind of stuff so um and then maybe a month

00:21:35.480 into the vegan or two months into the vegan thing all the residents were rebelling they're like i'm

00:21:40.680 not eating a salad for breakfast i want eggs i want you know bacon i want cereal so i just and

00:21:49.200 i wasn't seeing any real improvements either they weren't eating and losing weight or they were

00:21:54.880 the eating wasn't doing much for them so i fired the nutritionist and um said that's not working

00:22:02.220 so we went back to just like let's eat good stuff you know not sugary stuff and people were still

00:22:09.500 improving a little on that but then i i uh i got this thing called i i heard on a podcast a guy

00:22:16.920 named uh john jackish i don't know if you've heard of him yes yes okay yeah he developed this

00:22:22.720 exercise equipment called an x3 and uh so it's like okay he wrote a book called weight lifting

00:22:30.300 is a waste of time and so is cardio and i thought okay i gotta read this book so i i don't like

00:22:35.620 lifting weights my whole life and i'm like am i wasting all my time so i bought his equipment

00:22:40.520 which is this band thing but in a book it says you've got to do a carnivore diet for the best

00:22:45.880 gains and so i just tried the carnivore diet from that and was like holy cow i feel amazing

00:22:54.860 and i was gaining weight on it a lot of people that do carnivore for weight loss

00:22:59.080 um and i'm like wow this is this is really cool so i just i went to my home and said

00:23:05.600 we got to do the carnivore diet and all the characters are like we can't no we can't there's

00:23:12.400 no way they're gonna do that so i backed off and said okay well it seems like there's this thing

00:23:18.940 called a ketogenic diet too so let's start with that we'll move to carnivore if we have to or

00:23:24.780 something if we can and so we just started you know reading the carb labels and things like that

00:23:33.200 and tried to you know give them low carb vegetables give them a lot of meat a lot of fish things like

00:23:39.760 that and we were seeing lots of improvement um and and then i went to um the uh i have two homes

00:23:50.800 except medicaid patients and medicaid as you probably know doesn't pay much so i'm like i went

00:23:57.360 to one of the the insurance companies that administers medicaid and i said what what's your

00:24:03.120 troublesome population how can i help you and raise my rates so i can like you know make some

00:24:11.840 money on these medicaid homes and they said well um our obese individuals no one wants them

00:24:20.640 we have this hospital that has all the obese people and i met a girl i went to the hospital

00:24:27.120 and toured it i met a girl who was a thousand pounds oh my gosh i i couldn't believe that

00:24:33.360 these people and they this was their life they're going to be in this hospital the rest of their

00:24:37.520 lives so i'm like fine i'll try it so i i hired a guy um from las vegas who i met through that

00:24:46.400 John Jakish. His name's Daniel Magyar. And he, um, he has an amazing site. It's dmprotrainer.com

00:24:55.480 and he helps people virtually. And I said, okay, I, I can, um, Medicaid's going to pay me to pay you

00:25:03.700 to help virtually this lady. And so we had her on weekly conference calls with this guy. He's a huge

00:25:09.700 like bodybuilder. It's the carnivore diet, believes in X3, all that kind of stuff. And we

00:25:15.180 bought her an x3 and for nine months she came to our home and she was just losing losing losing

00:25:21.760 so she got down 230 pounds in nine months you know she's when i come over there she's like

00:25:27.440 how you can see my collarbone oh my gosh just hearing that kind of stuff you're like

00:25:32.080 oh i love this you know and just when i hit on something and it's working i'm like oh yes this

00:25:39.440 is it so um i hope i'm not rambling no no keep going this is awesome so so then you know i have

00:25:48.900 all these people who have dementia and i have ladies who are 95 pounds as you probably yeah

00:25:53.100 they don't need to lose weight so uh while i'm doing that i'm looking up uh something i i found

00:26:01.960 this guy, Dr. Dale Bredesen, who, um, had spent 30 years researching Alzheimer's. He's a neuro,

00:26:10.400 um, what's the neurologist and, um, actually was reversing Alzheimer's in certain people.

00:26:19.100 And he was using a functional medicine approach. He was the one who came up with there's 35 or 40

00:26:23.940 causes of Alzheimer's. And so I went to his website. It took me two or three years of trying

00:26:33.960 to convince people, let's try this. And finally, a lady said, I want to do it for my mom. So we

00:26:38.820 signed her up. We got all the blood tests. They came back with a report and everything. And they

00:26:44.260 said, you got to hire someone as a health coach to sort of help you through that's certified in

00:26:49.200 the Bredesen protocol. And that's where I hired a mind for all seasons. Um, and so we've been doing

00:26:55.940 sort of his protocol ever since the only difference is he's a very much more plant-based

00:27:02.460 guy. And he, he, he likes to say, he didn't say meat as a condiment, but I, I keep thinking,

00:27:09.500 you know, he wants to, he wants you to eat a bounty of vegetables. And I'm kind of,

00:27:14.280 i see so many more results on the carnivore diet that i i kind of shy away from that everything

00:27:21.160 else in this protocol i totally believe in that's where we got the red light therapy the sauna

00:27:25.420 we've taken people for hyperbaric oxygen treatment all those kind of things help with the dementia

00:27:32.060 as well as exercise so i've hired personal trainers that come in and exercise our in

00:27:37.080 our residents multiple times a week to and we try to take them out on walks we get them sunshine

00:27:43.280 vitamin d all that kind of stuff is all in his protocol and so um and that's where we keep seeing

00:27:50.400 the improvement so it's been a you know trying to find these experts and saying how can how can we

00:27:56.200 work this and i'm listening to podcasts listening to you you know your story i show that to families

00:28:02.140 all the time like listen to this girl's ted talk to show you what can be done on this diet and so

00:28:08.300 um and it's neat because we're starting to form a community i have i have volunteers coming from

00:28:14.940 the local community saying i reversed my diabetes on a carnivore diet i want to help other people

00:28:21.180 do it you know or i've seen this work i want to help and it's just i think it's so neat to be able

00:28:29.060 to spread this so it's not even just in an assisted living home i'd love to destroy the

00:28:33.640 assisted living business. I'd love everyone to stay at home, eat well, exercise and net and get

00:28:39.900 rid of all these diseases. It'd be wonderful. I'll turn my places into rental properties.

00:28:44.380 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. That's crazy. So then can I ask how much it costs for this kind of thing?

00:28:52.520 Like for a resident? Sure. Um, I, I really try to keep my costs down because I want,

00:28:58.980 the family to participate and make it a team. And just to give a reference, there's a lady out in

00:29:06.320 San Diego that does just the Bredesen protocol. If you don't want to do that, go somewhere else

00:29:11.420 kind of thing. She charges like $15,000 a month. Now people have long-term care insurance that can

00:29:17.000 pay for that. My costs generally around $5,000 a month for a private room, $4,000 for a semi-private.

00:29:25.620 now with the bredesen protocol there's additional like the families have to pay for the labs

00:29:31.300 we take one of the contributing factors to dementia is uh bad teeth yeah when you see people

00:29:38.180 with dementia and alzheimer's a lot of times because the periodontal disease the gingivitis

00:29:43.620 migrates to your brain and causes problems so we take them to dentists so they gotta have dental

00:29:49.380 insurance um you know we um if we do hyperbaric oxygen therapy that's outside so that's going to

00:29:56.940 cost you extra but i bought red light i bought saunas things like that so if those kind of

00:30:03.400 things are all included in the price and that includes 24 7 care that includes all your meals

00:30:08.540 carnivore or keto and that includes you know um all the medication management we'll try to do

00:30:15.180 activities, take them out to the local zoos, or we take them up to Lake Pleasant for boat rides,

00:30:20.140 or we, you know, take them to movies and things like that. I want them to feel like there's a

00:30:24.640 purpose to doing this. Like your, your life's not over. You can still go do stuff.

00:30:30.020 That's incredible. That pricing is incredible. I think that's what I'm trying to help, you know,

00:30:35.680 as, as we do more and more of this, it may, and costs go up like everyone is doing, it may go up

00:30:41.320 some, but I'm really, I want you to get better. You know, I want a reputation of go see how to

00:30:46.840 get better and we'll figure out how to pay for it one way or the other kind of thing. Even my

00:30:52.440 Medicaid home, um, you know, which they get, they pay me like three to 4,000 a month. I don't give

00:31:01.320 them all the amenities, the red lights and the saunas, but I still feed them well. Um, I have a

00:31:06.760 guy in there that's been in a wheelchair since he was in high school. I had a football injury

00:31:11.080 he's about 60 now and we're getting him to walk again at no he's standing up and using we have

00:31:19.420 like bars in the house and he's kind of walked but he's he's lost 37 pounds and he's uh his doctor

00:31:26.780 told him his kidney function's starting to come back so um you know we're it just jazzy you like

00:31:33.920 you you get excited to get up in the morning and go do this stuff because when people when people

00:31:39.920 have a success story. You know, you just feel like I'm really making a contribution here.

00:31:46.680 Yeah. When I, when I got healthy and like reversed all my issues, my life changed so dramatically

00:31:53.320 that I was like, whatever I do, I can't forget where I was at. Like I cannot forget how sick I

00:32:01.120 was. And luckily getting out of that took a little bit of time. Like I was on a really low carb diet

00:32:08.380 to begin with which worked wonderfully but then didn't work so well and i kept cutting things out

00:32:15.820 further and further and it was like i could still feel the autoimmunity and things and it was

00:32:19.840 there enough i had to get off a bunch of medications which was horrible and so i got

00:32:25.780 hit repeatedly with health issues for long enough that i was like okay it's embedded in my head i

00:32:31.760 can remember how sick i was because you get quite foggy when you're sick so when you pop out of it

00:32:36.080 you're like, well, that was old me onto the next thing. But I was like, I'm going to have to keep

00:32:40.340 talking about this until everybody knows about it because it's these cog, especially like

00:32:48.400 cognitive decline and these neurological diseases, especially that hit people at the end of their

00:32:53.260 life are so sad. They're so sad. And to know that maybe not for everyone, but I would say most people

00:33:04.020 can be improved or at least their suffering can lessen and maybe they can even reverse it

00:33:09.940 do you know how angry that's going to make people when they find out that that was possible

00:33:17.060 it's like you can't you can't even fathom it right absolutely a couple things about

00:33:23.960 alzheimer's and dementia too is you see the symptoms in your 60s and 70s and 80s

00:33:29.860 but it starts in your twenties, thirties, and forties, fifties. So if you can get a handle on

00:33:38.240 the stuff that causes Alzheimer's when you're younger, it's a very, it can be an optional

00:33:44.580 disease. It's not like you're just, well, my mom had it, so I'm getting it. You know, if you eat

00:33:51.220 right, you exercise a lot, you take care of yourself, you have a very low chance of getting

00:33:57.080 alzheimer's there is an alzheimer's gene that um will say you have a higher risk but ever all

00:34:04.100 these experts i talk to say i know when you test a community like of memory care residents only

00:34:12.260 like a quarter of them have that gene and and a lot of the others that have alzheimer's don't

00:34:17.360 have that gene and there's a lot of people who have that gene in the population that don't will

00:34:23.320 never get alzheimer's so um you can really fight this stuff and you know you can't you can't just

00:34:30.920 rely on well when i get sick i'll take some medication because the alzheimer's medication

00:34:35.260 doesn't do anything yeah for you yeah and you've probably kept up to date with how much of that

00:34:40.680 research was debunked in the last couple of years well the the the studies that uh said that the

00:34:48.300 beta amyloid plaques and stuff in your brain, a lot of those studies were fraudulent.

00:34:53.180 I hope those people are in jail.

00:34:55.680 The data was falsified.

00:34:57.320 Yes, exactly.

00:34:58.540 So all these drugs are going after something that really isn't the problem.

00:35:02.900 Yeah.

00:35:03.260 Or it may be one of the problems.

00:35:04.840 Those plaques, from what I understand, are a defensive mechanism to the insults of other

00:35:11.260 stuff going into your brain.

00:35:12.460 It's the other stuff that you need to fix, not reduce the plaques.

00:35:17.080 Yeah.

00:35:17.400 you should talk talk to i'll loop you in with max lugavir he's a friend and um his mom passed away

00:35:24.900 from alzheimer's so he does a lot with nutrition but i'm sure he'd be interested in talking with

00:35:28.420 you uh yeah that i hope the people who did those studies are in jail like because i remember when

00:35:34.660 my grandma uh was diagnosed with uh dementia we did you know my parents poured into the research

00:35:43.720 and it was all about the amyloid plaques like what medications work and then oh it turns out

00:35:49.360 it might be a defense mechanism that's not the same thing right not at all and and it's it's

00:35:56.560 sad because you know they're calling alzheimer's type 3 diabetes now and so you know if you have

00:36:03.720 diabetes your chance of getting alzheimer's go up dramatically so fix the diabetes and you may fix

00:36:10.360 the alzheimer's at the same time amongst other things you know don't get in your mold um you know

00:36:16.560 eat good meals that aren't a bunch of processed foods that are depleting your vit your body of

00:36:22.120 vitamins and things like that and and you stay healthy as i tell people i've never checked

00:36:29.480 someone into my assisted living home who's followed a carnivore or keto diet yeah yeah you

00:36:37.100 You know, I've checked a whole lot of them that, you know, ate a bunch of processed food and had no idea about it.

00:36:44.700 So to me, that's a big sign of here's how to fix this.

00:36:49.900 And medications, you know, when you get to that age and everything, the medications just ease the pain.

00:36:58.540 They don't improve you.

00:37:00.560 It's a lot of the medication is, how can this help us control this person?

00:37:08.180 And it's really sad because you're like, then we shouldn't call it medication.

00:37:12.980 We should call it chemical restraints or something like that, you know.

00:37:17.660 So it's just, I see people come into my homes on, you know, 25, 30 different medications.

00:37:24.720 And some of those medications are to counteract the side effects of other medications.

00:37:28.520 my record is a guy had 54 medications when he came to us so i'm just like you know anything

00:37:35.780 over four or five medications you're doing a science experiment because i'm sure there's

00:37:40.340 studies out there saying that combination of drugs and what it does to you wow yeah

00:37:46.600 so what's at the moment what's stopping you from trying to expand it's a manpower

00:37:54.400 it's care money it's caregivers um it's not a job that people it's hard it's hard it's not uh one

00:38:04.180 that you know makes a ton of money i try my best to take care of my caregivers and i've been very

00:38:09.760 blessed with wonderful caregivers many of them have been with me five to eight years like the

00:38:14.920 whole time i've been doing this um i'm actually working with an immigration attorney to bring

00:38:20.900 some of the caregivers families over here from overseas to help us out like I'll pay to go

00:38:28.860 through the immigration process you have them help out my homes and as we do that maybe I can

00:38:35.100 look at expanding some but it's just I'm very hesitant about finding good help to do that

00:38:44.580 expansion. I, I'd rather, if I expanded, I'd want to buy an existing one that already had

00:38:51.020 caregivers rather than start from the ground up and start recruiting. Cause if I go on Indeed or

00:38:55.780 Craigslist or, you know, websites for job opportunities, I get horrible ones. All my

00:39:03.680 caregivers come from friends and family of my current caregivers. Like if we happen to lose

00:39:11.060 one i'll just i i have two ladies that i call my hr department and i go to them and say send the

00:39:18.180 word out we need some more caregivers and they through their network bring you know oh call this

00:39:24.020 person kind of yeah that's smart if i could find if i felt like that was under control i would

00:39:30.840 expand but i'd love to show other people how to do this i i welcome that competition i want to

00:39:36.760 make people better. And I can only do 40 at a time here. So, and you know, my people tend to

00:39:44.600 last a long time, so I don't get many openings. Yeah. Interesting. I know. Well, thank you for

00:39:52.940 coming on. I think the more people talk about it and the more people that try out the diets and the

00:39:59.400 more people that see these results, then it'll just naturally spread. But I was shocked to hear

00:40:04.140 that you were doing it and actually implementing it somewhere because i hadn't heard of that

00:40:07.640 my parents like my mom in particular was like as soon as we were on this diet and we felt you know

00:40:13.100 like different people she was like we've got to set up a house and then we have to get people

00:40:19.200 into that house she was talking mostly about like external family that are still ill and she's you

00:40:23.680 know she goes after people harder than i do i go online but i'm like i can tell if you're interested

00:40:28.560 or not and i'm not going to convince you if you're not interested in person she's like we have to set

00:40:32.320 up a house and get people in the house and then get that horrible food away from them and just

00:40:38.340 wait for them to get used to it and then let them leave once they're better. And I was like, I know

00:40:43.660 that would be like, it would be nice to have centers you could go to where you could help

00:40:49.640 get off some of these addictive foods. Do you have, when you transition people in and take

00:40:55.280 these processed foods out of their diet, do they experience cravings or do you do it gently?

00:41:00.100 no they experience cravings yeah so what does that look like especially the dementia people

00:41:04.900 yeah you know because they're inflamed a lot of them have diabetes things like that so it's a

00:41:10.540 gradual thing and we'll have family members bring in some food to them if we need to or something

00:41:16.800 but we really will will will like i said with maria's recipes we can make uh carnivore ice

00:41:24.960 cream out of egg whites and stuff like that so we'll try to do that because a lot of them with

00:41:29.680 dementia you know they see the ice cream they think it's ice cream and they kind of tell

00:41:33.480 themselves plus older people's taste buds aren't what they used to be and so it it definitely

00:41:39.940 doesn't taste like haagen does but it's it's not bad and so we can um help them you know

00:41:46.600 make that transition and and with the dementia a lot of times we can make that transition a lot

00:41:53.680 quicker because the the memory of the bad stuff fades it seems like quicker as well so the ones

00:41:59.840 that are still alert are um sometimes it takes a little more convincing but also the peer pressure

00:42:05.940 in the house like they see other people eating that way yeah that helps it helps come around

00:42:11.240 rather than you're just sitting there with your thoughts of man i could really use a candy bar

00:42:14.980 right now or a soda or something like that wow that's crazy yeah so it does i mean i'd love to

00:42:21.980 have some homes where I just have a cook and people can come and go, you know, live communally

00:42:28.500 with each other and, you know, and the cook just brings in the food and they heat it up.

00:42:33.060 And yes, it'd be so helpful, especially people who were really ill. Like I know there, there

00:42:38.880 are a number of people who go on. So the version of the carnivore diet I do is the lion diet. It

00:42:43.020 was just meat. Right. I really impressed you do that. I only do it out of necessity. If I, if,

00:42:48.660 If, if I, uh, if I didn't have to, I wouldn't be on it for sure.

00:42:52.720 It's like, it takes off.

00:42:55.000 No, I've tried it and I'm, that's why I'm so impressed you could do it.

00:42:58.140 Yeah, no, only, only cause I have to, but, um, it would be so useful for people to have

00:43:06.020 a community and to be able to kind of detox somewhere.

00:43:09.360 It's impossible to do that.

00:43:10.820 Like I have chronically ill people reach out that are like have autoimmunity or something

00:43:14.840 like that.

00:43:15.280 And they're living in a house with other people in it.

00:43:17.380 and they just can't like they start getting like basically carb withdrawal right and they're still

00:43:25.200 chronically ill because the diet hasn't helped yet and it's like i'm already miserable and now

00:43:30.260 my diet isn't even fun and there's food everywhere and it's just like you you have to be a very very

00:43:36.960 specific type of individual to be able to withstand that type of peer pressure to hold fast to a

00:43:43.080 carnivore diet without a community. Very much so. That's why I thought a community would be

00:43:47.400 a fantastic thing to do, especially with younger people. I mean, I'd love doing it in assisted

00:43:52.160 living, but it would, it would bring the cost for everyone down a whole lot too. You know,

00:43:57.360 it'd be more, you're in a rental house, maybe a little surcharge for the food kind of thing, but

00:44:02.180 you could, a lot of people could afford it. They could get the chronic disease taken care of. And

00:44:08.520 then you know we could see alzheimer's rates drop dramatically we could see everything cancer heart

00:44:14.000 disease i mean i always thought of the cholesterol thing that was one of my big hang-ups with the

00:44:19.120 carnivore diet when i first heard about it but the more you research the more you realize heart

00:44:23.860 disease is caused by inflammation insulin resistance things like that it's not the

00:44:29.080 cholesterol and so um you know educating people on that starts making them think okay well maybe

00:44:36.100 i can do this more you know i have heart disease so what's ice cream going to do to me well that's

00:44:41.700 contributing to the heart disease kind of thing yeah so um all the rates of all those diseases

00:44:47.740 could come way down if people looked at this earlier and maybe not do the extreme you did but

00:44:55.140 uh you know even just cut out the processed food go to the whole food go to meat go to fish

00:45:00.940 eat eggs those kind of things and uh you could transform american health care with it

00:45:07.480 i'm impressed so so the the diet i do seems to only be necessary for people who have

00:45:14.440 like autoimmunity mostly the autoimmunity part's complicated and i think like you said that's

00:45:21.620 toxin burden it's probably underlying infections like a lot is going on there

00:45:26.760 to make you so sensitive to food that you're that restricted. But I'm impressed that you've been

00:45:33.920 able to improve cognitive decline. And that's with, I've heard this too. I mean, I know other

00:45:39.120 people who talk about ketogenic diets for cognitive decline, but you've seen that.

00:45:43.560 Yeah. Have you seen a massive difference between a ketogenic diet and a carnivore diet with your

00:45:48.040 patients? No, I haven't. Okay. I would say the people on the carnivore diet, I do see more

00:46:00.040 improvement than I do on the ketogenic diet. But it's not like dramatic, like they're still

00:46:05.780 improving on the ketogenic diet. It's just not as fast as the carnivore. And some of the people I

00:46:11.840 hate to say this, but it's not like a guaranteed fix. I've got, you know, people with dementia that

00:46:17.260 they just seem to be going along steadily which which i've been told by doctors that's still an

00:46:23.700 improvement because dementia is a continuous decline so if they're stable you're doing well

00:46:30.180 kind of thing uh you know it's me like not good like what's the what am i missing here right right

00:46:36.800 exactly i'm always searching for what's what is the missing link here but um but i do i do see

00:46:42.960 better improvement on the carnivore diet than I do on the ketogenic diet it's it's hard I mean as

00:46:49.860 they get further into dementia it's the the chances of improvement get worse and worse

00:46:55.500 but especially the ones that are early on in dementia and there's some dementias like

00:47:01.100 Lewy body dementia where they have hallucinations and things like that that I'm still trying to work

00:47:06.280 out what's going on there and why can't you know we just do it with diet but it's it's not as easy

00:47:12.540 it's nerve cells take a lot longer to regenerate than other cells they do they really do but they

00:47:19.940 do regenerate it's not yeah i used to think that once they're damaged you're done that's not true

00:47:25.400 yeah i had that experience so i had to get off of antidepressants which was a

00:47:31.280 i would not recommend yes no all the ones that we try to do that we do it very gradually there's

00:47:38.520 this company called Outro that's picking up and it was started by a doctor who had a miserable time

00:47:46.800 with extended withdrawal which is really neurological damage from being on these

00:47:51.200 medications for so long and so he has a group of doctors he put together that are they're operating

00:47:56.140 in a number of states they're not all across America yet that show people how to taper properly

00:48:00.540 now they don't implement I don't know if they implement dietary changes I know they don't

00:48:05.500 implement a ketogenic or a carnivore diet which helps so much with that but they do teach people

00:48:11.740 a proper tapering schedule which is incredibly important because most people taper linearly and

00:48:17.880 then sure it's a disaster yes yeah but do they do they why do they taper like do they just try

00:48:27.020 to get you off they try to get you or is there an indication that you're ready to come off it

00:48:31.800 Um, I think most of the people going to them have recognized that they're not, they're either not

00:48:37.460 helping that person or they're stuck on them when they're feeling better. So they're, you know,

00:48:44.540 their brain is adapted to them, but they don't need them anymore and they can't get off of them.

00:48:49.040 So I think those are the main people and people who experience severe withdrawal because not

00:48:53.220 everybody does. So they just teach people and they compound your medication for you so that it can go

00:48:59.120 down at the proper dose over a long period of time. Wow. I'd love to get in touch with them.

00:49:03.400 Yeah. Yeah. I can put you in touch. They're good. They're, they're really good. Um, and I'm in touch

00:49:08.680 with them. Cause that was like something my family went through. That was brutal, but I'm sure what

00:49:14.100 happens is your brain gets used to it. And then your brain has to like almost regrow and retrain

00:49:19.620 different areas. And it takes a while, but you can do it. Right. It just takes longer. We've

00:49:26.080 tapered a couple people like the guy with 54 medications we've tapered some of his and uh he

00:49:31.880 uh he was having bad nightmares and stuff oh yeah yeah it's horrible it is and i'll put you in touch

00:49:40.580 with these guys okay yeah i'll put you in touch with these guys for sure it's the low dose that's

00:49:45.560 really hard to get off of yeah because if you probably already know this neurotransmitter

00:49:50.520 saturation you get like the low doses will saturate 70 or 80 percent of your neurotransmitters

00:49:56.380 and then when you get it to these massive doses they're only working on the last like

00:50:00.220 eight to ten percent that hasn't already been saturated so removing the majority of it

00:50:05.480 only removes about 30 percent of the saturation of neurotransmitters so they do uh like a it's

00:50:12.980 not exponential exactly but this tapering at the lower doses is much longer and slower and they

00:50:18.720 figured it all out which you can't usually get access to right oh i i just rely on the doctors

00:50:25.560 that come in our homes like and yeah and they they just tell me no idea slowly but they don't

00:50:31.260 there's not a yeah they're okay they have it okay i'll loop you in with them yeah because i see

00:50:37.940 antidepressants like candy everywhere oof yeah i know that that's one of the things i've been

00:50:44.720 trying to raise awareness about too because what it's like a fifth of people in america have an

00:50:49.920 autoimmune disorder it's way higher for you know obesity chronic diseases everywhere i think 20

00:50:56.180 of america's on psych medication and they're impossible to get off of unless you know how

00:51:00.340 to taper them and no one knows how to taper them it's just like and then there's this diet that

00:51:05.100 everyone thinks is a fad diet that works and it's just like oh yeah i know i see on the internet

00:51:12.360 that they don't eat meat if you want to avoid diabetes.

00:51:18.060 And I'm like, how is that even physically possible?

00:51:20.900 There's no carbs.

00:51:22.380 Diabetes needs carbs.

00:51:24.780 But that's what they put out there.

00:51:26.500 And it's mind-boggling to me.

00:51:28.660 You go on the American Diabetes Association website,

00:51:31.520 and the recipes are like 25% sugar and 30% carbs and 40% protein.

00:51:38.520 and you're like your diabetes association is to make sure people continue having diabetes is that

00:51:44.620 the idea here i know i know it's hard not to think it's hard not to think that it's set up from the

00:51:50.140 top or something but then you talk to you talk to doctors and it's like well i do think the food

00:51:56.480 pyramid screwed everybody over and that was run by corporations and we know that so that's not

00:52:03.800 even a conspiracy that's actually what happened and then they trained all the doctors and now

00:52:07.760 we are where we are there's a lot of that i mean the whole cholesterol thing there's documented

00:52:12.800 proof that some i think the sugar industry paid some harvard doctors to say it's cholesterol not

00:52:19.980 sugar yeah for heart disease and i just like you know what happened to that first do no harm thing

00:52:27.000 in medical school they i don't know what these people were thinking they were probably i mean

00:52:32.460 they didn't have a view of what the future would look like the person who was like yeah we'll blame

00:52:36.300 fat and it was like you know how many people that killed yes oh it's insane and and they've known

00:52:43.680 about ketogenic diets since like the 1920s like they actually used it for therapy for things like

00:52:50.560 epilepsy so it's not like this is a brand new fad thing they did stuff they found stuff that worked

00:52:57.680 because the medications weren't like crazy they didn't have a ton of them back then so

00:53:03.100 they had to find stuff that actually worked and then the medications came in took over and it was

00:53:08.940 easier to take a pill although they don't work that well and anti-epileptics are very difficult

00:53:13.460 to get off of too they like fall into the same category as psych meds for withdrawal yeah so

00:53:19.200 yeah and like painkillers and things like that you know you have pain this gets me off the pain

00:53:26.380 but it makes me addicted to it so it's uh you know diet is not the easiest road and that's

00:53:33.960 i think that's one of the biggest barriers is you know well why should we do that when we can

00:53:39.820 just have this doctor give us a medication you know me saying well that medication is not going

00:53:45.400 to work this is not convincing to them well you're not a doctor yeah all right i've been doing this

00:53:52.360 nine years, I've seen people take that medication and nothing happens. So how did you, so you said

00:53:58.740 you've been doing this for nine years. Is that how long you've been implementing like ketogenic diet

00:54:02.580 in? No, it's been probably maybe three years now, three or four years. I did, I started really in

00:54:09.740 earnest during COVID because I was, you know, we got all the lockdowns really hard because you got

00:54:17.100 old people and they're the most vulnerable and everything so i thought especially before all

00:54:23.020 this vaccine stuff came out and everything okay how can we keep them healthy so let's do the and

00:54:30.160 that and that's sort of when i discovered the x3 thing too but um you know what can we do that's

00:54:37.440 not gonna have people pass away here and so uh that's when i implemented the diet we also got a

00:54:45.620 bunch of vitamins c and d just looking on the internet and i just i also did everything i could

00:54:52.820 to have my residents see their families during covid actually see them not zoom see them because

00:54:59.060 zoom would they'd just be like what's this so we would we would set up like uh i bought like

00:55:06.120 commercial clothing racks and we'd put clear shower curtains and we put them out on the front porch

00:55:11.000 on either side of the shower curtain or we'd have them sit at the front door and the family you know

00:55:15.580 be six feet away or you know whatever we could do that met department of health requirements and i

00:55:21.740 called the department of health the arizona department of health was really cool about it

00:55:25.420 they said don't do anything that will get you in the newspapers and i'm like okay fine and and then

00:55:30.700 as it was we did more more of that we realized hey they're not getting sick by seeing their families

00:55:38.220 so when we just started having their families come in and we just do it outside we'd have

00:55:43.340 backyard barbecues or parties and things like that we had a lady turn 100 during covet so we

00:55:49.660 had a we had got the local police to have a parade with all the cars in front of her

00:55:55.740 set up a throne in front of the house and had this hundred banner and we had a big party in

00:56:00.140 the backyard afterwards no problems at all so i i just you know took steps and thought

00:56:07.500 them seeing their family is probably the best defense against COVID I have. That they're happy,

00:56:14.420 that they're not depressed, that they're not just going to go downhill because they're like,

00:56:17.780 I'm never going to see anyone again. I got to wear this stupid mask, all this stuff.

00:56:22.040 So I think the COVID and the X3 together kind of said, this is what I need to do. And then once

00:56:30.240 the Bredesen protocol kicked in, I'm like, oh yeah, this is it. The seven to eight people that

00:56:36.340 i've sent home um the first one was probably in the first two years i did it and that was just

00:56:43.160 eliminating the processed food so it's not like all of them did it because they were carnivore

00:56:48.300 and keto it was varying problems and um things like that but it was all just eating natural food

00:56:55.840 helped but most the i'd say three or four of them are in the last three or four years kind of thing

00:57:02.700 wow yeah i've got i just put up so i get chronically ill people and they can't do the

00:57:09.120 like they can't do the carnivore diet and they're you know bed bound or something like that and

00:57:14.080 they're surrounded by other foods and they're miserably depressed and they're just like this

00:57:18.340 is too hard like i can't handle it they can't do it because medically or they can't do it because

00:57:22.820 they just can't you know it's they can't they don't have enough will part of it but also they

00:57:30.000 can't get out of bed well and just anything additionally hard is too much because their

00:57:34.520 life is too hard already right and so i've got this weaning protocol for people that's kind of

00:57:40.200 like you're still eating the same thing right but it's not the same thing it looks like the same

00:57:47.280 thing but it's the healthy version of the same thing so i have i think i have my my list called

00:57:51.680 it's called like healthy foods for lazy people something like that or it's like you can still

00:57:56.500 eat your you know it's not a carnivore diet but like eat your pizza and your spaghetti and stuff

00:58:01.460 but it's the healthy versions of those so like grain free usually you know sugar free all that

00:58:06.740 and then have different diets for like first you replace all your foods that are like bread and

00:58:13.360 buns and pizza and cakes with the healthy version of that and then you start cutting out the healthy

00:58:19.560 versions of the cakes and the buns and stuff and like moving people over slowly that works better

00:58:25.400 that sounds like a great idea another thing we do is uh we'll do like a keto day and then a

00:58:31.400 carnivore day you know yeah so you have something to look forward to like okay today's gonna be hard

00:58:37.240 just eating the meat thing yeah but tomorrow i'm gonna get a little they're gonna ease up on me

00:58:41.920 you know so it we just and then we just try to space out the the cheat days or whatever yeah

00:58:47.560 further and further that works so that's a good idea um yeah we we try to work with each person

00:58:53.560 and see what they can do but i have a nurse currently who came to us um she's lost 60 pounds

00:59:00.780 in three months and uh she was a nurse for 40 years and had no idea of these kind of nutrition

00:59:09.680 things before she came to us like how did they not tell you guys about this stuff i don't think

00:59:16.980 they know like i don't think people know no they're going to know though that's that's here's

00:59:24.420 my job yeah uh-huh yeah and the more that know and try it and succeed they become evangelists

00:59:32.580 for it and the word spreads and spreads they don't keep it to themselves you know and it's

00:59:39.260 it's really neat to see my cousin started texting me he's lost 60 pounds he had uh colon cancer

00:59:47.820 he just went in for a colonoscopy it was totally clear wow he's down to 10 grams or less of carbs

00:59:54.260 a day and he's doing the and he's like this is awesome grilling steaks i'm eating burgers no i

01:00:00.660 know i know compared to being chronically ill right even people like how do you do the diet

01:00:05.440 and the version i'm on for the carnivore diet like i can't do maria's recipes but so the version i'm

01:00:11.380 on sucks in the realm of carnivore diet right but compared to how i used to feel it's a miracle

01:00:18.720 yes it was like this doesn't suck i get to survive off of steak yeah like exactly who's

01:00:24.120 gonna say no to that like right anyway so yeah someone told me um there is no food on this earth

01:00:31.820 that tastes as good as the, as being, feeling healthy. That's, that's me. Yeah. And so there

01:00:39.040 isn't a food that I should eat that could hurt my health. It would be, the taste would be better

01:00:43.920 than that. Yeah. Nothing tastes as good as healthy feels. I, I, yes, there you go. Thank you. And I,

01:00:49.680 I think of that every time I get tempted with something. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's funny.

01:00:55.040 Cause I don't think you ever get rid of the temptations completely. No, not really. It fades.

01:01:00.660 if you only eat meat it does fade i've walked into kitchens such a weird experience so i've

01:01:04.720 been doing it it'll be seven years in november december yeah december and i'll walk into kitchens

01:01:11.080 my brother who eats a regular diet he'll be cooking something and i won't be able to recognize

01:01:15.300 the smell anymore isn't that weird they're like what is that that's an onion it's like wow that's

01:01:21.080 a strong i know they they just don't they don't hit the same circuits i'm sure if i started eating

01:01:26.820 them again then i'd rebuild that right away but it was like super weird like to check that out i

01:01:32.180 haven't noticed that but yeah certain smells they just don't like my brain's just pruned that part

01:01:36.640 of my brain i guess like that's not an important smell anymore i'm amazed by how much it removes

01:01:42.660 your appetite like you just yes go like i the last time i ate was last night and i just haven't been

01:01:48.800 hungry all day i'm sure i'll go have a steak tonight or something but it's no the last time

01:01:53.720 was yesterday too and i remember eating yeah and it's yeah it's four o'clock right yeah and i

01:01:58.900 remember a normal diet but if i hadn't had something by nine in the morning i'm like yeah

01:02:04.120 shaky i gotta have something yeah and it really you just don't need it i tried uh my dad wanted

01:02:11.540 this is when i was still sick before i figured out there's a link to diet my dad was like oh we

01:02:16.720 i've read studies on fasting and helping chronically ill people you know you should

01:02:22.040 try fasting and i was in university i think i went i don't know six hours and was like i'm i feel like

01:02:29.120 i'm gonna die right and that was from you know how sick i was the number of medications i was on

01:02:35.120 and what i was eating but once you transition to low carb or keto or carnivore carnivores

01:02:41.160 especially then it's like yeah you you can eat pretty infrequently it was crazy it's crazy

01:02:48.560 actually yeah i i know sometimes i have to remind oh i should eat yeah yeah because i do lose weight

01:02:55.000 if i go two days or something without fast yeah we we feed our residents usually around four to

01:03:02.560 five somewhere in there and then we tell them the kitchen's closed until eight seven thirty eight

01:03:07.960 the next morning for breakfast so we can get 14 15 16 hours of them fasting every night and i think

01:03:14.540 that helps a lot too yeah yeah it would the three out one of the things on the bredesen protocol is

01:03:20.980 to try to not eat three hours before your bedtime too and it helps them sleep and it seems like our

01:03:27.100 residents really their sleep improves when they've been with us a little while which is huge for

01:03:33.600 dementia too yeah yeah okay well how that's incredible i'm gonna loop you in after we're

01:03:43.240 i'll loop you in with a few people i hope i hope it expands thank you me too i i want to help as

01:03:51.560 many people as i can um either through expanding assisted living or just getting the word out i

01:03:59.520 mean this is not complicated people can do this on their own um where can people go online to

01:04:06.660 learn more about you so our assisted living website's called a paradise for parents.com

01:04:13.720 a in front of it um and then i i put out like a i do a newsletter sort of three times a week

01:04:22.400 either stuff we're doing in our um assisted living homes or something i found out about

01:04:29.120 talking to a doctor or a specialist like your friend um and i i i just made an e-book called

01:04:36.920 uh well it's how to do carnivore on a budget because one of the questions i get is um

01:04:42.600 how can you afford carnivore and a lot of assisted living places are like well i don't

01:04:47.840 spend all that money on food actually i find at my own home i actually eat my dollar wise

01:04:56.140 my food budget's gone down because i don't go to restaurants i don't buy food that gets thrown away

01:05:01.100 you know it i i shop for bargains when when there's a bargain at the supermarket on meat i

01:05:06.580 clear the supermarket out of it and put it in my freezer um so i wrote this ebook carnivore on a

01:05:14.020 budget of different ways you can save money buying meat fish chicken eggs things like that and it's

01:05:20.340 the website's carnivoreonabudget.com and it has an ebook and you can it'll sign you up for my

01:05:25.980 newsletter if you're interested I don't really sell much on the newsletter I just try to get

01:05:29.600 word out of what I'm finding just to help other people and then I'm on Facebook a paradise for

01:05:37.320 parents assisted living and I've got an Instagram you just look up my name and I'm probably most

01:05:43.320 active on Twitter with my Hal Cranmer just because it seems like I find a lot of good I follow a lot

01:05:51.460 of good people who've had success in the carnivore diet who are very interested in the carnivore

01:05:55.820 diet and so i can they post their latest links to latest studies and stuff yeah yeah so um it's

01:06:02.960 really good information in fact i go to twitter sometimes say i have this problem with a resident

01:06:08.240 and i get like tons of feedback from all kinds of experts which is really cool ah that's so cool

01:06:15.060 that's so cool i feel like most like i think it's i'm so glad that you're picky about caregivers

01:06:23.140 i've had you can get some nasty experiences it's like some people who sign up to take care of other

01:06:29.980 people are in it because they want power not to not to help other people and that's scary when

01:06:35.400 you're sick or old it is very much and uh you know i hear horror stories of caregivers in people's

01:06:43.340 homes stealing tons of stuff identity theft you know abuse all that kind of stuff our industry

01:06:49.680 has a horrible reputation to begin with no one talks about hey i sent someone home they talk

01:06:55.000 about oh there was a case of sexual abuse in this caro or something so um a i'm trying to change

01:07:02.460 that but b i agree and that's why i ask my best caregivers give me you know find another caregiver

01:07:10.140 because they won't um they won't bring in a bad one you know that's smart they'll they'll know and

01:07:16.520 they'll talk in their community of this one's bad, this one's not. So they're kind of my screening

01:07:23.060 because it's really hard to screen someone just on an interview. Oh, yeah. Impossible. You probably

01:07:27.660 know. Yeah, yeah. Like impossible. Okay, that's cool. Well, I'm going to link all of those in

01:07:33.500 the description for anybody watching or listening. Awesome. All those will be linked. Good luck with

01:07:38.860 everything you're doing. Thank you. Thank you for having me. I can't tell you how inspiring your

01:07:44.080 story is and and you know I tell people about you everywhere I go because I just think it's amazing

01:07:50.500 what you've done that's cool thank you I was pretty pissed off I was pretty pissed off I was

01:07:59.040 that was a lot of years of re that was a lot of pain for a very long time yeah that just ended

01:08:06.200 and I was like are you joking it was it was that it was diet that was all I had to do right I would

01:08:14.000 have done anything and all i had to do was change the way i was eating but a lot of people you tell

01:08:19.900 them that and they still don't do it so it's kudos to you to do it i mean i i tell when people come

01:08:26.400 to me a lot of times the family members overwhelm because their their mom's been up all night with

01:08:32.260 dementia you probably saw your relatives um you know they're exhausted they're they got kids they

01:08:38.940 got to take care of job they go to a regular job and then they're up all night with their their

01:08:43.640 elderly parent I always tell them thank you for your service because I think those people are so

01:08:49.020 the unsung heroes of America because they're doing it completely out of love there's no

01:08:53.900 compensation for them anything like that they're paying back their parents for what their parents

01:08:58.820 did for them when they were young and so I'd like to say thank you for your service too because what

01:09:03.560 you tell everyone is inspiring tons of people and I tell friends I'm going on your podcast they're

01:09:10.440 like oh my god she's my hero so um i think you're changing lives as well well thank you so well

01:09:19.700 hopefully we spread this to more people i sure hope so do everything i can yeah thanks for coming

01:09:24.680 on thank you i really appreciate it michaela

The Mikhaila Peterson Podcast - October 11, 2024

Insane Results in Assisted Living Homes ｜ Hal Cranmer EP 208

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