00:24:35.920christen singing rosemary bromelain aren't enough sometimes sometimes they are uh dao supplements
00:24:41.300i'll stack these things together with my medical team and what we end up doing is we suppress your
00:24:48.940likelihood of having those reactions so you can just move faster some people want to do it naturally
00:24:52.980so we just go slower and if we bring in little bits of magnesium after removing the irritants
00:24:57.160then slowly you just start to cleave off all the mercury the uranium the whatever it is that's
00:25:03.260your toxicity problem. And I've seen it over and over and over again with people, you know,
00:25:08.000it was uranium because they lived in a house with radioactive water that came through the tap plus
00:25:13.000radon in their basements. Um, and, and that uranium was on their thyroid. So they had
00:25:18.380Hashimoto's thyroid autoimmunity. They had depression and anxiety. And anytime you started
00:25:23.140to even tap into that, their weight would skyrocket with inflammation and they'd start
00:25:29.280feeling like they're gaining weight they'd have major depressive swings their cycles would be
00:25:33.680thrown off so i had to do it at a slow enough pace while binding it after we reduced the
00:25:38.740likelihood of having the immune reaction and then over a period of several months
00:25:43.400they were able to get rid of the majority of it and then now they can take as much in that case
00:25:51.200iodine which was the biggest trigger for them and b12 they could take as much as they wanted
00:25:55.180you know, within reason. Interesting. How often do you see like uranium and these kind of like
00:26:01.700heavy metal issues? Is that common? Because like psych meds caused a problem that I think is still
00:26:09.040lingering, but that was 10 years ago. And then I've been on a meat diet for like eight years
00:26:13.820and I've been careful about my environment for four. So it's like, why would I still have these
00:26:18.860issues and then for dad is like 10x whatever's happening to me but like um
00:26:24.460so that makes me think it's long-term psych med damage honestly especially from other people i've
00:26:31.840spoken with but i haven't done the like i've done blood work for heavy metals and they didn't show
00:26:37.380anything do you do other tests do you do the hair you're laughing why are you laughing blood work
00:26:41.700for heavy metals is useless. Oh, okay. That's great. It is completely useless unless it is a
00:26:48.860current and massively significant problem. Like I'm talking about a little bit, I'm talking about
00:26:54.740like you're being poisoned and right now, not last year because your body is amazing at adapting,
00:27:03.000right? Like you throw your back out. What do you do? You lean to the side and you just keep moving
00:27:07.560for a lot of people um you you roll your ankle you just start putting your weight on the other
00:27:12.380side on your other leg and you turn your foot and you just adapt people are great at adapting
00:27:16.160what are we really bad at getting back to optimal so if if you just look at it from the physiologic
00:27:23.020when i roll my ankle and i start walking funny i'm probably never going to change that back
00:27:28.300unless somebody puts me through physical therapy to correct that and then i wear out another joint
00:27:33.120Well, what's happening inside your body? It sounds like, and I don't know anything about all your labs, but it sounds like psych med created a shift and adaptation in your body. You did work to get away from it. You are now doing things to keep your body strong.
00:27:49.220what has not been done is rehabilitating how your body responds to magnesium and b12 and all these
00:27:57.560other things likely because of the second part your body cleaned up enough that you can get back
00:28:03.180to normal ish right like if you're doing all these other things you're still not feeling well
00:28:06.960then you're not normal but you're normal ish but what it never did was go well now that i'm feeling
00:28:13.700normal i can actually start go back to cleaning out all the extra stuff that's in my intracellular
00:28:18.960fluids and spaces and you know in my fat cells we're just gonna leave that alone and i'm gonna
00:28:23.660go live and survive life because that's what the body doesn't do well so then you know that's one
00:28:30.520part of your question the other part was how often do i see a toxin problem yeah metals uranium
00:28:35.040radium all the time i don't think that's the only problem but what you mentioned to me was mold
00:28:40.880metals and drugs that let's just call all those toxins different kinds of toxins and then lime
00:28:46.900is an infection. That's a whole different thing. Now mold can be an infection. You can be colonized
00:28:51.780by it. And I have had people come into my clinic that have been through some really amazing doctors
00:28:56.400and EDTA and DMSA and, and carnivore and all sorts of other diets and vegan diets on top of
00:29:04.280the carnivore, like back and forth and all the drugs and all the protocols. And they, you know,
00:29:10.200different things were missed for different people, but I've had people were still drinking
00:29:13.940radioactive water because the only way to remove that is to distill it if you're drinking it
00:29:18.100if it's in your tap the only way to remove from the tap is distilling that's it there's no way
00:29:22.100to filter that no filter just to be clear filter can remove it well for very long ro is your best
00:29:30.100filter okay because it's a a filter that has really tiny holes and you've got to use energy
00:29:35.460to force stuff through and it will get 90 of of metals when it's brand new and it degrades over
00:29:42.980time so if you're in a place that has a lot of it it will degrade more rapidly and because again
00:29:47.300you're using a filter so a porous non-strong material that you're using force to shove
00:29:56.440something through it's going to tear over time yeah so you're at 90 at your best and it's
00:30:01.560degrading over the length of time you're using it i'm talking about like weeks not years wow
00:30:07.360that's not good and then the other part is distilling it is evaporation so you evaporate
00:30:16.060from one tank to another tank and then you filter it so those metals that are very hard are left in
00:30:22.620the tank because their melting temperature is different than water so they're going to stay
00:30:26.580when water evaporates what it what will go with it is vocs and phthalates and that sort of stuff
00:30:30.960because it melts around the time water does so then you have to filter it which is where the
00:30:35.280filter part comes in. And as I've just thought, I've learned so much about water and toxins
00:30:39.500because I get those weird cases where I had a very rich family. There were seven of them
00:30:44.900chronically ill from mold. All of them still sick, drinking radioactive water. They'd all
00:30:49.580been to some of the best doctors because they could afford it. And then they come into me and
00:30:53.960I'm like, well, one thing we're missing is the water. Three of them got better within the first
00:30:59.200month. And I was like, well, that's cool. The other four did not. They had way more stuff going
00:31:04.380on that was still left over even though they'd been through some really good protocols but their
00:31:07.580body wasn't strong enough to keep everything at bay while they were still drinking the water so i
00:31:11.980had to go back and deal with the lime and parasites and seboes because the radioactive elements allowed
00:31:18.880those things to keep surviving even with doing amazing protocols antibiotics and antifungals
00:31:23.580and natural protocols and ivs and and all of the stuff so when someone comes to me i have to step
00:31:29.560back and just look at, well, where was the miss? Because something was missed. Even if I'm not
00:31:34.240getting you well, and we've been four or five months in, I'm like, where's my miss? Like we've
00:31:39.520done enough work. You should be getting well. Where's my miss? What did I not do right? What
00:31:43.960is it about you that I didn't see? Let's rerun some labs. Let's go check something different.
00:31:50.260You know, like, okay, your physiology is getting better here, but this marker is not. Okay. Well,
00:31:54.080I had one client that I worked with for two years. She'd gotten like 90% better.0.76
00:31:57.400and then all of a sudden her gut flared back up and I run her labs and mold back
00:32:00.780I'm like what'd you do what happened oh I moved
00:32:04.320she didn't tell me because she thought she did a good job with the looking through the apartment
00:32:13.640this and that and then we ran it and there's place had a little bit of mold and I'm like well
00:32:17.160at least we know why yeah right so like you're constantly just being the detective uh so I know
00:32:23.000I went all over the place no that was cool that was cool when I first went on the like the paleo
00:32:29.600diet changed my life that's when I stopped taking all my medications and I was like it very limited
00:32:35.340it wasn't the paleo diet it was like meat and vegetables no eggs no dairy it was basically just
00:32:41.440meat and vegetables and a few fruit and it like fixed me and that was the first step um and then
00:32:47.020I stopped taking psych meds over a period of two weeks after 12 years. No. And I had two and a half
00:32:53.340years of like crazy, crazy, horrifying symptoms that I attributed to my diet and food reactions
00:33:04.080because I was having such severe, severe neurological reactions to food that I was like,
00:33:08.440oh my gosh, how is this my reaction to soy now? How is this my reaction to dairy? And then it kind
00:33:13.060of went away the severe reactions after two and a half years and it took me another year to figure
00:33:17.380out oh that was actually antidepressant withdrawal that i didn't even know existed um and then i've
00:33:23.460gone down the mold route because i got sick in miami and then i met this doctor that did like
00:33:27.360a parasite testing and i had h pylori which was picked up on gi maps a number of times but all
00:33:34.040the doctors i'd been to said well the levels aren't crazy high just ignore it you don't have
00:33:38.580any symptoms and it was like well I only eat meat so maybe that's one of the symptoms but I didn't
00:33:43.740have like acid reflux or GERD or anything or burning um and treating h pylori like fixed my
00:33:50.760digestion and I was and that was the classic I did like quad therapy but I think I replaced
00:33:56.820metronatozole because that doesn't make me feel good with um some kind of equivalent um but like
00:34:03.400that fixed me so like the longer I've been doing this the more I realize they're like you can do
00:34:09.040one thing and have it work really well like the carnivore diet saved my life like I went from
00:34:13.800disabled to being able to run like multiple businesses have kids like a bunch of things
00:34:19.760when I addressed mold I had fertility issues actually when I lived in mold on on the carnivore
00:34:25.140diet that I couldn't figure out that resolved as soon as I fixed mold but like it's definitely
00:34:31.080multifaceted. And then you think, well, what's at the bottom? Why am I being like attacked from so
00:34:35.700many different angles? Like there are a lot of people that live in moldy houses that would make
00:34:41.060me sick that are doing okay. I can't say it's good for their health, but they're not flattened
00:34:46.000or people who are exposed to Lyme and they don't get chronic Lyme. So like what's going on? And
00:34:52.900then recently I've been like, well, is it like, is it vaccines? I've never been on the like
00:34:58.080anti-vaccine train, but at a certain point after doing this for 10 years, it's like,
00:35:03.040is there something wrong with my immune system at a foundational level that's just different?
00:35:11.020So do you have any, like, is that a thing? Because at some point it's like, well,
00:35:16.700is it my immune system, you know, rather than all these toxins I'm exposed to?
00:35:21.720Well, there's two points that I wanted to bring up. One, when you go to a functional medicine
00:35:25.300doctor, regular doctor, whoever else, you have to consider what they're doing and how it's affecting
00:35:31.000their labs or any other information that you're trying to pull from, right? So if you're a diabetic
00:35:35.220and you're on a bunch of diabetic meds and your blood sugar looks good, it doesn't mean you're
00:35:39.280not diabetic. So I'm not going to pull you off of all your diabetic medication because your labs
00:35:43.440look good when you come in, which is what happens so often with people that are already doing all
00:35:49.360these healthy things. So for you, you had changed your diet to paleo, done all of this stuff,
00:35:54.900And then you went to doctors like, yeah, your H. pylori doesn't look bad.
00:35:57.280Well, yeah, because I'm managing it with my lifestyle.
00:36:01.380So if you come to me and you're already eating a really strict, amazing diet, you're already
00:36:05.500doing all these anti-inflammatory things.
00:36:07.760You just took a bunch of parasite protocols, antibiotics, antifungals.
00:36:10.720Of course, I'm not going to expect you to have a bunch of stuff out of range when it
00:36:15.520comes to those infections that you just treated.
00:36:18.320So then if it's at a lower level, but still not normal, I'm like, well, yes and no.
00:36:23.640like this might still be a thing you're on the borderline and I'll put it in what I call my
00:36:29.100roadmap and I'll put question marks next to it so that I keep it in mind it's like not yes but it's
00:36:33.260not no it's let's let's keep it in mind so that's a part of what's going on for why maybe you're
00:36:41.000having a hard time getting straight answers because people are looking at your labs thinking
00:36:44.200well this isn't it but for you your markers might look different because of everything you're doing
00:36:51.540or done or you know living in the perfect homes etc living in a bubble yeah i feel good like i'm
00:36:58.460doing well um other than stress that i can't really do much about but like i'm doing well
00:37:04.780but if i deviate at all i'm very ill so it's like bubble life is great but like that can't be ideal
00:37:10.820and i don't know if that's good when i'm like when i'm 50 or 60 is my body going to be able to keep
00:37:15.440all that under control if i get exposed to like walk through a moldy building or like someone
00:37:20.240breathes on me or something. No. And I have a lot of people that come into my clinic and they,
00:37:24.460they, they're doing the same thing. And I'm just like, look, I love what you're doing,
00:37:28.240but it will not last. Yeah. You will eventually break. Like, I don't care how strong willed you
00:37:33.720are. You will eventually want to have a burger or a beverage or not me or go on a vacation or
00:37:42.860whatever it is. You will eventually want to do something that doesn't agree with where you are.
00:37:47.860Yeah. And it also means that if you have to be that perfect, that you're just floating near the
00:37:55.500line. And if you're always about to break that line, isn't going to where you're becoming more
00:38:01.880adaptable. It's shrinking. And then you're doing something more to keep yourself alive. And then
00:38:06.900it shrinks and you do something more to keep yourself alive all the time at your current
00:38:11.460threshold, because there's something burdening you so much. So when I tell people, I'm like,
00:38:15.580my goal is not to tell you you have to do this but an example is i had a woman that came in she was
00:38:20.300chronic lyme her thyroglobulin antibodies was 7 000 so she was hashimoto's she had
00:38:29.820markers that were associated with breast cancer she was nearly blind from the amount of floaters
00:38:35.420and things that was in her vision and i got her to a point where i was like three or four months
00:38:41.900since she actually came along pretty rapidly. We, I, this was like four 13, 14 years ago,
00:38:47.220like right in the early part of my practice and her functional medicine MD. And when I say
00:38:52.400functional medicine MD at the time, it was just like his first go wasn't meds. It was, it was
00:38:57.880diet or lifestyle. And this was, you know, way long ago where that was like an amazing step
00:39:02.020forward for a lot of doctors. And he ran her thyroid globulin right before she started with
00:39:07.820me. And then three, four months in, and we had just done a few more natural treatments for Lyme
00:39:12.100and they dropped from 7,000 antibodies to 2000 antibodies. Great. Huge change. When I, I told
00:39:19.060her my goal is for you to be able to do the things you want to do. I'm a Kansas city boy. So chiefs
00:39:23.960fan, we go out, we want to barbecue. A lot of guys are wanting to have a beer. They're wanting
00:39:28.980to eat nachos. I'm like, I just not, I'm not telling you that you should go do that, but I
00:39:32.620want you to be able to do that without having more than like a, I feel a little inflamed the
00:39:36.260next day kind of repercussion yeah i want your body that adaptable yes so she came in and we'd
00:39:42.620gotten her to the point where she was well she was back to work vision clear antibodies down to
00:39:48.100under 200 i mean she was really happy it was like her 20th anniversary of their husband and they
00:39:55.380were going back to chicago where her um like one of their first dates was and she used to drink a
00:40:01.180beer there and just sit and like you know fawn over each other and she's like i'm so excited to
00:40:06.140go back and I feel good, but I'm sad. I'm not going to be able to drink a beer. I'm like,
00:40:09.420drink the freaking beer. Just do it. And she's like, are you my doctor telling me to drink a
00:40:14.660beer? I'm like, not because I'm your doctor trying to tell you to drink a beer, but I'm
00:40:17.400saying your body's adaptable enough that if you want to do that. So she went, she had one beer,
00:40:22.520she paid no price for it. And she literally started like bawling because she was so happy
00:40:28.680that she could do that. And for you, what I'm saying is if you're still living in a bubble,
00:40:33.800there's something missing someone's missing something i don't know what it is because i
00:40:37.560don't know all your information maybe that's our next podcast i'll just read all your stuff we'll
00:40:41.080get it all out in front of me yeah okay let's do that good luck i have done so many i have a google
00:40:46.020drive folder that if like brian johnson didn't exist i don't know who's done more testing than
00:40:51.140me like and it's just like everything looks a bit off looks a bit better now that i did like
00:40:56.180the parasite stuff like the gut stuff looks better um but like everything is kind of wrong
00:41:03.600and it's like well if everything is kind of wrong it's hard to figure out where to start especially
00:41:11.620if you can't take freaking supplements well one you'd be able to at some point i'm not telling
00:41:17.040you'd be easy but there's a path forward with consistency and that that's part of it um but
00:41:22.860it's also i mean i'll just tell you one of the first clients that came to me that was like
00:41:26.640from remote when i was really early in practice she walked in and she'd been to mayo and a bunch
00:41:33.160of other docs and she had a pamphlet of paper that was like two three inches thick printed
00:41:37.940because this is before you can like send it all over in a google drive and my first entire hour
00:41:44.020with her was just reading to her like i was just reading it and i was just like well this could be
00:41:49.360this and this could be this and well that's interesting and and i went through and you know
00:41:53.200her immunoglobulins were like bottomed out so of course she tested negative to all antibody tests
00:41:57.700because she didn't have any antibodies. And they had diagnosed her with B6 toxicity, even though
00:42:04.540it was barely over the range, she didn't take it. So it meant that we had a genetic issue and she
00:42:08.080was likely dealing with mold. And then we just kept going and I was able to just like, kind of
00:42:13.960interpret a whole bunch of things and we wrote them all down. And then by the time I got to the
00:42:18.200end, I was like, well, here's a bunch of misses and here's what we're missing on information.
00:42:21.680And, and then we went and ran some of those things and we just slowly started going through it.
00:42:26.000but for her, it wasn't that there was one big problem. It was that there was a lot of little
00:42:30.360ones and people would get hyper fixated on mold or Lyme or parasites and they do months and months
00:42:36.380and months. What I did with her was because she'd already been through so much. I was like,
00:42:39.760we're doing like one month of parasite and one month of bacteria and one month of Lyme and one
00:42:44.100month of mold because her immune system was still weak enough that it couldn't protect itself,
00:42:49.020but it was strong enough that it was doing like a triage and I needed to get her beyond that where
00:42:56.860the adaptability because once you get to a point of immune system where you are you're in the
00:43:01.980the cdr which is cellular cell danger response state you attack everything yeah immediately
00:43:08.540like it's just immediate attack everything yeah there's no look around and figure out oh that's
00:43:13.340magnesium like we could do something with that yeah the rest it's just attack yeah yeah
00:43:19.020well, I need to get you out of that where it's, we're still not strong enough to survive alone.
00:43:24.120We still need help, which is probably where you live sometimes, but you've never gotten to,
00:43:29.360okay, now I can actually, because this is the thing is nothing you've done will eradicate
00:43:34.480anything. You're not trying to eradicate parasites, EBV, Lyme, anything. You're not
00:43:38.880trying to eradicate anything because if you do, you'll kill yourself. You're trying to get it
00:43:43.460into a non-pathogenic state so you've got to get it below pathogen by what you're doing and then
00:43:51.240get your immune system strong to then take it the rest of the way and you've never gotten to where
00:43:54.880your body will take it the rest of the way because potentially your immune system is dysregulated from
00:44:00.880the psych drug damage and you're not able to get enough nutrients in because you need magnesium and
00:44:07.500b12 to run your mitochondria otherwise it stays in cdr this stays in that fight-or-flight response
00:44:12.240so you've never been able to turn the dial down enough for your body then go and do the rest of
00:44:17.760its work so as soon as you take your foot off the gas of moving forward and and like detox
00:44:22.340you start getting worse yeah that seems to be pretty accurate like that that's pretty accurate
00:44:26.980like the diet i'm like hyper functional um with a diet mainly and with seriously avoiding mold and
00:44:35.580it's been three years now since i realized that mold was an issue and i'm less intolerant than i
00:44:41.420was like i can go stay in a hotel for three days but by day three i'm not really sleeping and i'm
00:44:45.920having heart palpitations and it's not like in my head stress it's like oh slowly my body's
00:44:52.380overwhelmed by the new environment yeah and um i've tried like i've talked about this a bit on
00:44:59.080the podcast for like mcas and just this like inflammatory state i've tried ketodafin i've
00:45:06.380tried some of the mast cell stabilizers but as soon as i take something and feel worse i'm just
00:45:10.540like nah i don't want to go through the feeling worse i'm not even convinced that the feeling
00:45:15.320worse part of healing is a good sign um like do if you are dealing with people with mcas
00:45:22.460do you use things like ketotafin to try to calm down the immune system and do some people have
00:45:27.840bad responses first and then eventually tolerate it or do you just like microdose those people
00:45:32.800what do you do yes to all of that yes we microdose yes we use medication yes we have bad reactions
00:45:38.920but let me give you is it normal for for mcas people to have bad reactions so are you familiar
00:45:45.140with mass of degranulations triggered like the triggering of it like so the science behind it is
00:45:51.100mass cells are immune cells that carry around granules so that's why the degranulation of
00:45:56.600different different uh biological protective molecules and when you are in a mass cell state
00:46:08.860mast cell encastate mast cells degranulate with like nothing so the worst version of mast cell is
00:46:15.360temperature change light change sound change degranulation touch your skin to something
00:46:20.720degranulation so people come in they're like they just do this with their arm just run their finger
00:46:25.860i had that before diet that's degranulation dermographia or something i could write on
00:46:30.760myself and it would like turn into hives that's degrading it was a trick in high school
00:46:34.260like look at this smiley face yeah hives so if i get you and if you're at that level of mast cell
00:46:41.820good and bad is unrecognizable to the body okay so any change is too much because deuranulation
00:46:51.260you feel bad any change good or bad so then of course you're going to have a reaction if you're
00:46:57.600trying to physiologically change the way your mast cells are responding because now they're like
00:47:01.940well if you turn me down my organism will die which is you so is some bad reaction okay some
00:47:12.780yes a lot no so hermetic stress is something like i go to the gym i work out that stress builds me
00:47:19.580stronger when i recover and there's a there's studies that show above 30 ish percent hermetic
00:47:26.560stress for a period of time causes damage to you that is unrecoverable so we want to do a
00:47:31.580recoverable state so with mast cell i even go below that i go 20 so i'm like if you have an
00:47:37.020increase of symptoms by more than 20 stop now as i'm going through that process
00:47:43.360we bring in say low dose naltrexone normal dose 4.5 milligrams mast cell dose 0.25 milligrams oh
00:47:53.320okay build up yeah that still could cause a reaction and i've had it happen i i react out
00:47:58.100ldn uh it gives me derealization yeah well why your inflammatory responses that you have at your
00:48:05.360maximum threshold is all is psychological is your worst symptom yeah so if i'm bringing down
00:48:11.540inflammation around your brain and your brain starts to detoxify or changes inflammatory
00:48:16.200responses is the synaptic activity going to change i mean i mean eventually i suppose
00:48:25.880for you immediately because inflammation is changing and you're degranulating inflammatory
00:48:30.240responses in your brain it's it's encephalitis look at it pans pandas kid yeah so then how do
00:48:35.240you get around that you've got to get such microdose levels and you have to come at it from
00:48:39.700multiple perspectives so if i just shut down histamines by bringing chroma and sodium in or
00:48:45.420catatophan in or something like that if i just do one route it's it's so great that your body
00:48:51.500feels threatened by a good thing and then degranulates. So what if I do it at a teeny
00:48:57.780tiny amount for histamine and a teeny tiny amount for inflammation and a teeny tiny amount for
00:49:01.600immune modulation and it doesn't feel threatened and we just slowly build that over several months
00:49:06.980even to the point where by the time your body catches on that there was a change, it's already
00:49:13.260chilled and it's not going to degranulate because it's not feeling as threatened because its threat
00:49:17.780response is a lot less think about ptsd if you're a guy from the military and i've seen this in live
00:49:23.880in person fireworks right if or if you slam a door on a guy that that was in a military battle
00:49:30.880where there was bombing a door being slammed even though they're safe around everywhere in in their
00:49:36.720home drop and cover well your body's doing the same thing even though yeah magnesium's good it's
00:49:44.600too much shut down. Interesting. Okay. So then let's shift gears a little bit. Um,
00:49:53.460stress and trauma, like how much, how much does that end up impacting your immune system?
00:50:01.520Cause you talked about PTSD. Um, is that really that bad? I like, I know it is. And I've talked
00:50:09.500to so many people about this, but like, can that impact your immune system so that you start
00:50:14.440having inflammatory reactions to things from stress? And why if so? So one of the talks that
00:50:21.760I've done, we named it the neurotoxic loop. And I've hung around and talked to AIs about this
00:50:29.800because I was just curious what the research was where I just was chatting with AI. I'm like,
00:50:33.460bring up research, prove me wrong. And out of all the research I did and looked at all these studies,
00:50:39.680we're used to the concept that mold in the body is toxic and neurotoxic and when it builds up it
00:50:45.960generates a liver and neurotoxic brain toxic nephrotoxic toxic everywhere which then causes
00:50:53.380the body to release a immune response to try and clean it up during that period of time you release
00:51:00.260a hormone response to give you enough energy called cortisol and adrenal hormones to get
00:51:07.180your body to rev up to protect you which is a normal response eventually if it becomes long
00:51:13.060term you can get adrenal hormone or cortisol toxic which is another version of toxin oh what what is
00:51:22.000this cortisol toxic you can get toxic to your own hormones because they they accumulate you've heard
00:51:27.260of estrogen dominance toxic estrogen right so adrenal hormones can do the same thing so it's
00:51:34.320driving you so hard and it's saturating your brain with hormones that are eventually becoming toxic
00:51:41.300because they are sitting in there now so this is the toxic response side well now you're sitting
00:51:50.660in a toxin whether it be the mold or the adrenal toxicity the cortisol toxicity that tells your
00:51:57.400body that it's unsafe so then it generates a fight-or-flight response back to that that
00:52:03.900mitochondrial cdr situation it generates a response to say we're in danger we're unsafe
00:52:11.060so it triggers more immune response to the stress that you're in
00:52:17.780so now we're having a a unsafe feeling response that unsafe feeling generates more cortisol
00:52:27.060and then you're toxic. So you create another immune response and it becomes a self-perpetuating
00:52:36.740problem, even if you moved out of the mold. So you just generated a immune triggered
00:52:43.520internal PTSD in your body. And I'm not even talking about mental health, emotion, life trauma.
00:52:49.700So that's the toxin trauma side of it. So that's the toxin loop that can get you on that side.
00:52:55.340Well, the neuro loop can do the same thing. If you feel unsafe because of a parent, a spouse, you live in a war zone, whatever is causing you to feel unsafe, you release a cortisol response so that your body will get you to safety.
00:53:11.420if that cortisol response goes on too long then you generate another immune response or sorry
00:53:19.160stress response it leads to an immune response because you get toxic to it because your body
00:53:22.480wants to clean it out and then that cycle starts going right so it's self-perpetuating until you
00:53:28.320feel safe well what did i say earlier we're terrible at rehabilitating out of it so i mean
00:53:34.860i've met clients that are women that were abused and they still can't be around men in certain
00:53:40.580types of situations they still don't feel safe even to this day from whatever happened to them
00:53:46.48020 years ago so they're still feeling unsafe which means their cortisol still elevated you
00:53:51.800can see on testing and they're still generating this response and they end up mass cell so you
00:53:56.640can do this from a neurological side or you can do this from a toxin side it doesn't really matter
00:54:00.960and then a lot of times unfortunately the person with the neurological trigger or the toxin trigger
00:54:06.800puts themselves in the position to get the other yeah because if you are in a state where you're
00:54:14.400unsafe and debilitated from mold oftentimes you're willing to deal with things that maybe you wouldn't
00:54:19.160have dealt with if you were well you put yourself in a relationship or a landlord situation or
00:54:24.500a work situation because you just don't have quite the capacity to protect yourself or if you grew up
00:54:31.040in trauma and you move into a moldy house you're twice as likely not to be able to tolerate it
00:54:36.260because you have so much energy over here trying to deal with the trauma on the, like under the
00:54:40.600surface, you're, you're spending a lot of energy dealing with that. So you can't tolerate mold as
00:54:45.500well. So the neurotoxic loop is something I talk about a lot because people get stuck in this
00:54:52.860self-perpetuating problem. They leave the bad, like one of the bad things, but the body's just
00:54:58.200keeping it going because it's stuck. It feels unsafe. So one of the conversations in my practice
00:55:02.520a lot is are you safe both from an environmental perspective air food water hygiene dental
00:55:07.840implants into the body and are you safe mental health wise consciously and subconsciously
00:55:13.860even when you are actually in a safe place okay that makes sense i think part of the issues like
00:55:23.760my family's been dealing with is there's been so much external stress that's like
00:55:27.660it's honestly like too much for someone to be stable in like even dad being sick now like last
00:55:34.480summer my newborn got sick and i was like nobody would be okay in this situation they'd be freaking
00:55:40.640out in like 12 different ways so not feeling good is like there's nothing you can do about that but
00:55:46.080it's a tricky sticky it's tricky sticky it's a tricky situation i think for chronically ill people
00:55:50.700because people who have like autoimmunity a psych issue are on a bunch of medications need taking
00:55:56.620care of are stressing out their family feel guilty and then it's like the situation is bad
00:56:02.120there are triggers for it and then they're stuck in a situation that's also bad it's tricky you
00:56:07.520have a tricky job well i've listened to your dad talk and and i really respect some of the things
00:56:12.140he says which is so interesting with what you just said there it's when you are fully functioning
00:56:20.300with a completely healthy body and brain and stress situation, as long as you were taught
00:56:27.360and driven to work and have the work ethic and fight for things, when you have the full
00:56:35.560capacity to have critical thinking because you're well and you're unstressed and you're
00:56:41.980living within that, your ability to get stressed is a whole lot less because it doesn't ping
00:56:49.520you to the fight or flight state where when you're a fight or flight, you don't have good
00:56:53.840short term memory. You don't have good critical thinking. You're not creative. So when you have
00:56:58.700a lot of room for adaptation, it takes a lot more to take you down because you can just step back
00:57:04.520from and be like, okay, well, if I do this, I'll solve this problem. And, and, you know, listening
00:57:09.100to him, just thinking through like the world we live in and what's happening to it and where
00:57:13.160people are. If you're already well, you can handle so much more, which is why well people
00:57:18.180in many cases can stay there better when they're conscious about it but when you're not and you're
00:57:25.420going through everything you've gone through and if you have a child that's sick you immediately
00:57:29.840could jump into the fight or flight worst case scenario which triggers more cortisol which then
00:57:33.500deep dives you away from the critical thinking not saying you couldn't yeah but it just no it
00:57:38.900makes it hard it definitely makes it hard to think when you're stressed i think everybody listening
00:57:42.340knows that if you're really stressed out you can focus on the problem and sometimes you can be
00:57:47.420hyper-focused on that but eventually when you get tired your brain's tired so yeah that is what
00:57:52.860happens so you know coming in to work with people it's it's a delicate balance of i hear you
00:58:00.520let's work together and when i tell them you know you don't have the energy to do all the things
00:58:07.420you're doing you can imagine when these people are coming in well so-and-so said to do red light and
00:58:12.200sauna's supposed to be good and i want to do these peptides and what about that med and i need to
00:58:16.160take these 40 supplements because somebody said that they were going to be good for me i'm like
00:58:19.000yes to all of that it's all good i can i can't tell you how many times i told people
00:58:23.160everything that you're on all these recommendations you're giving are all good things
00:58:28.360they all cost energy do you have excess energy to do them all even the sauna and red light
00:58:35.840sure they all cost something they cost your purchase ability your time to go make sure
00:58:42.300to set in front of them. Your mental anguish of being able to do all of them, get them in in the
00:58:46.820day. Sauna takes for sure energy because it's hot. So your body has to try and cool you at your
00:58:52.000detox. You're losing minerals, red light. There's not a whole lot of lost energy. Um, but sometimes
00:58:58.620it's just another burden of something else to do. I go, they all cost something taking 40 supplements.
00:59:03.680I'm going to tell you right now, especially if you're not well, if you're a hundred percent well
00:59:10.440and you're just optimizing and you're wanting to play around with all these different things.
01:04:31.700As you get healthier and you remove mold and you remove psych med damage, the amount of
01:04:40.640capacity you have starts to go up. So like when you go to the gym, I can deadlift 600 pounds.
01:04:47.880Well, if you try to deadlift 600 pounds, it's not going to go as well. I don't think maybe
01:04:52.120you're stronger than me, but that's definitely not going to go well. So as you get stronger,
01:04:57.020your capacity goes up. I've just immediately, that's what I've done. And then I've immediately
01:05:01.400filled it with more companies because I like it because you're addicted to cortisone.
01:05:07.880uh i think your dad might be an expert on this yeah what are you supposed to do about that though
01:05:14.960do you just like bore yourself to death for a while and have your nervous system recover
01:05:20.180what do you do with the other addiction you gotta stop first yeah i recognize it first i guess then
01:05:27.560you gotta stop we'll do a 12-step process um but you also just have to realize it's not sustainable
01:05:33.880that it's not sustainable and it will somewhere somehow take away from your long-term goals of
01:05:40.540being able to do your business your long-term goals of being able to like you said be 50
01:05:44.220well you when you're 50 you probably want to hang out your children yeah and see their children
01:05:48.040so you you at some point have to make a change i mean it's it's obvious like obviously that's
01:05:55.960obvious you can't run yourself ragged you can because it's actually not it's not a better
01:06:04.760option for like long-term success anyway because you're going to end up crashing i know that i know
01:06:09.680that i need some of the stress to go away and then i think the question i would ask you is who do you
01:06:13.880trust enough to help you to do this because you won't do it on your own that's the question i
01:06:17.080ask people it's like is it your husband isn't it i've offloaded like company wise i mean things
01:06:22.280are pretty optimized and i have so much help at home thank goodness like i've got nannies that
01:06:27.520like live here that i love that i don't know i wouldn't be able to have three kids under three
01:06:32.360without without help i just wouldn't have as many children like things are pretty optimized it's
01:06:37.700mostly it's mostly uh like it's mostly family stress yeah um which is hard to like remove yeah
01:06:45.980so i think it's i'm just in a trial point i'm just kind of laughing because you're like i've
01:06:51.880offloaded so much in the business in the house and i'm gonna have my third kid under three
01:06:55.580and i'm like so you're an overachiever mom now because you can't help yourself
01:07:00.320which is good for you that was in this this baby this was a bit of an oops baby
01:07:04.040this was but like then i was like well i'm combining all the hormonal changes within
01:07:08.260three-year period it's really convenient for like that optimizing motherhood i love it
01:07:14.400optimized motherhood at the also do you want to talk about depletion i mean i know what
01:07:20.200magnesium b12 you did have is is going to your baby which is is the amazing part about the body
01:07:26.060but at the detriment of you so when you come out of this you know on the back end of breastfeeding
01:07:30.560it's like let's make sure we got some good stuff coming in and micro dosing in all the things you
01:07:35.080need as you're going but uh it's just it's so hard not to do more when you're so good at doing more
01:07:41.400you're successful you've got a killer everything it's fun and it's fun but the problem is a lot
01:07:49.800of times it's like people like yourself or myself is like we we do things that you just can't get
01:07:53.300out of like you can't take a day off you know if you get a hobby which like a hobby what do you
01:07:59.020mean like painting yeah no i know you're like what do you do for fun and i was just like hmm
01:08:03.360you start a new business yeah i'm vibe coding an app right now in my downtime which is amazing
01:08:10.460vibe coding is like i don't think i've it's the most fun thing i've seen i can't believe you could
01:08:16.600do it so instead of I was like in a period during first trimester where I was scrolling and I was
01:08:21.000like I just hate my like I hate this I hate scrolling um and I've switched that over to
01:08:26.240just talking to Claude I just had Claude build in a toxic way I just had Claude build a interactive
01:08:34.980quiz with all the information I'm talking about today to where a person could jump on it and it
01:08:39.720would just take you down this rabbit hole that would lead you to like the top few things that
01:08:43.960could potentially be going on. That is so cool. Is that available? Are you going to make it
01:08:50.660available? It's on my phone. It is not available on the internet yet. You need to put that on a
01:08:54.560website. You could even charge people. That's, that's such a good idea. That's such a good idea.
01:09:00.140Cause I'm just like, people don't even know where to go. And there's so much information out there
01:09:04.420and I'm having it like sort through not just my opinion, but like a lot of other opinions so that
01:09:09.400it's not completely biased to what i think but it's just like hey how do we get somewhere that's
01:09:14.560not just what you should everybody should be you know it's just i'm so tired of the
01:09:20.600controversy causing like instagram posts because it's the only way to grow yeah like i've stalled
01:09:28.000out on growing as much on instagram because i'm just like i'm not going to go out there and just
01:09:32.660say everybody should be this one diet or everybody should take this one supplement or everybody has
01:09:38.080mercury and that's the causation and just being so controversial that everybody in your comments is
01:09:42.720growing your account by fighting like i'm just like i'm not good at that because
01:09:47.620that's not helping people so boring too and and so then i'm just like okay well how else do i
01:09:55.920educate in a different way because this is going to burn itself out so i got to educate in a
01:10:01.220different way and maybe it's it's putting things into like a fun interactive here's where all this
01:10:07.860information is but it's also quizzing you and like pushing you around in it and and then then you get
01:10:12.340your like tick tock addiction moving every few minutes because it's not super long but you know
01:10:17.980it's just the reality good idea well you do and you're probably talking to people when they come
01:10:23.380in for a while to get the health history to go through all their notes if that could be like
01:10:28.460automated so it could be scaled that could be really useful for people it it's a part of it
01:10:33.580and as you said like the vibe coding part on the back end is just kind of fun i'm so fun i'm just
01:10:38.540like this is what i want here's my ideas and then it pops it up easier than talking to a developer
01:10:42.820no offense to the developers out there but it's easier it is it's really fun and what it popped
01:10:49.940out afterward i was like man i'd see me like holy crap i was like that it just pulled in so much
01:10:55.300information and put it in a really cool way and i was like what the heck is going on and it's
01:11:00.620the face of everything is changing yeah i don't think we're going to be like we're the world where
01:11:05.960there's no employees like some of these people are saying i think it's going to be that just
01:11:09.760you're going to have to be able to produce like a hundred people by yourself and that's just
01:11:14.500going to become the new standard and things are just going to continue to move faster and if you
01:11:18.060aren't willing to learn how to use some of this stuff we're just going to have the same thing
01:11:25.160like you know back in the day people had to dig ditches by hand and and when a skid steer came out
01:11:31.420a bobcat came out um if you couldn't run one then you're kind of out of it unless you were the one
01:11:37.800guy that was standing next to it so then a lot of people had to learn how to drive machinery so we're
01:11:41.640just learning how to drive the the new machinery of what's going to push industry i think that's
01:11:47.860true it's exciting i know that this app that i'm working on um it's a dating app and i'm gonna put
01:11:56.100it out i'm gonna put it out it's like a dating app for people who are health focused because
01:11:59.860most dating apps don't have health as a focus so it has like the hexaco personality scale so you can
01:12:07.540like measure yourself against other people plus your preferences for like diet whether you exercise
01:12:12.480that kind of like gives a compatibility score that you can opt into or opt out of but i was like
01:12:18.180that's fun so that's what's gonna what i'm gonna publish we'll see if it's popular or not but um
01:12:26.000but i was like i'm putting all this effort into vibe coding which is really easy compared to
01:12:31.040building something um but i was like in six months this is this is happening so quickly
01:12:37.540am i going to spend a month doing this every day and then in six months i could just describe it
01:12:44.960and it could be built but either way it's fun right now the landscape is just changing so
01:12:49.600quickly it's mind-boggling it's exciting though it is and i mean it's getting better at at
01:12:56.280everything it's getting better at medicine i mean doctors are using it and getting better at
01:12:59.960diagnoses i will say this though so when i go out there and do this with it if you just ask
01:13:07.360for health advice. It's pulling from all of the bought and paid for studies that are falsified to
01:13:14.340push narratives. So you have to be really careful about your prompting and where you're getting
01:13:19.920data from. And then you have to read it and go, okay, well, this study makes sense. And it wasn't
01:13:25.120paid for by that pharmaceutical company. And so in the healthcare area, that's the one thing that
01:13:31.040is just so interesting and why I think there's going to be a place for everything that you're
01:13:39.000building and I'm building because it's curated by somebody that is willing to do the research
01:13:43.420and read. Because if you just ask Claude to go deep dive on a cholesterol, it's going to come
01:13:50.220back with the bought and paid for narrative. That's the risk for sure. So you've got to make
01:13:55.900sure that you understand the information to then be able to help. So I think authenticity of
01:14:01.760podcasts like this and relationship marketing is going to be more and more and more important
01:14:11.340because, I mean, a company could put out 60 or 600 ads to target any and everyone now with one
01:14:19.200guy doing the ads because it all can be made by AI. Yeah. Companies are doing that more and more
01:14:24.060too and they're making up all these fake influencer this is did you hear and then we and then we should
01:14:30.820tap out because i'm wearing out but did you hear there there was like the fastest made billionaire
01:14:36.000with a single person yes did you hear about what he was doing he made up a bunch of um he made a
01:14:44.140bunch bunch of fake doctors on meta that endorsed this i believe it was a peptide site is that the
01:14:51.900one it's a peptide site and they did like terzepatide and like semaglutide and stuff like
01:14:55.900that um and they had a bunch of fake before and afters endorsed by fake doctors and he was valued
01:15:02.520at like a billion dollars i think he's likely going to prison because the entire thing was
01:15:07.320made up and i was like can you like fake a human on meta to endorse your product isn't that fraud
01:15:14.240and it looks like it is but it's hard to say because you're not you're not um imitating a
01:15:19.700real person which is where the laws are you're making up a person which just hasn't existed in
01:15:25.220the past really but i was like things are getting weird you got to be careful got to be more and
01:15:30.740more careful i just wonder i mean you're you're making up a fake doctor which is a license so
01:15:36.300that's maybe a spot but yeah let's say it wasn't a doctor it was just some you know gym influencer
01:15:41.700yeah you're not doing anything licensed and you're just saying hey take this peptide it
01:15:46.180worked for me and showing a testimony of people that were on it while you were personal training
01:15:50.340them so like take the licensures out of the way I'm going I mean legally what what is it that
01:15:56.400you're really doing incorrectly I guess maybe I mean it's a marketing lie because it's not a real
01:16:02.280person endorsing marketing lies I mean we avoid it yeah like with our products because it bothers
01:16:08.640me I was like you can't have fake people saying like this was the best thing this changed my life
01:16:14.100if that wasn't real then it's a lie but most marketing is like that and like we've worked
01:16:18.920with marketing companies that are like yeah just like this is a good um this is a good quote and
01:16:23.980i was like is it is a real quote no okay then we're not putting it out as a real quote like
01:16:29.820you can't do that but marketing companies just do that yeah it's tricky it's tricky out there
01:16:36.720Oh, it's, we're in a whole new frontier of deep fake AI, this, I mean, gosh, AI brands are exploding across social media with millions of followers that are obviously fake and they're not tied to a single person, which means that they'll say anything, do anything.