The National Telegraph - Wyatt Claypool - November 20, 2025


4 Liberal MPs likely to resign in the coming months!

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Nate Erskine-Smith Mark Carney Steven Guilbeault Justin Trudeau Chrystia Freeland Gregor Robertson Bonnie Crombie Ralph Goodale Matt Jenneru Bill Blair Catherine McKenna Eglinton Lawrence Chris Donjermont Gary Amasangari Pierre Poilievre Thomas Mulcair Elizabeth May Rick Traynor Robert Fyfe Papineau
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Chrystia Freeland, Nate Erskine Smith, Greg Roberts, and Matt Gennaro are just a few of the many Liberal MPs who are going to leave office in the next few months or in the spring of 2026.

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00:00:00.000 Hey guys, Wyatt Claypool here.
00:00:02.760 One of the most annoying things about the legacy media coverage of conservatives potentially crossing the floor
00:00:08.920 and joining the Liberal Party is that not only did every lead fall through,
00:00:14.720 Chris Donjermont crossed the floor, Matt Gennaro announced that he's going to just completely resign from office in spring,
00:00:20.640 and every single other conservative MP suspected came out and said,
00:00:24.500 I am absolutely not leaving.
00:00:26.700 And then, you remember, there's a bunch of Liberal MPs who are likely to resign from office,
00:00:31.920 and that gets basically no coverage from our Liberal media.
00:00:36.900 There are about four or five Liberal MPs who, mainly because they have personal problems with Prime Minister Mark Carney,
00:00:44.000 are going to probably leave office in the next few months or in the spring of 2026,
00:00:49.820 whether there is an election at that time or not.
00:00:53.500 But let's start off with talking about the most obvious individual who is going to be leaving office,
00:00:59.240 and that being former Deputy Prime Minister and Finance Minister Chrystia Freeland.
00:01:04.660 This is being reported by Robert Fyfe.
00:01:08.220 He says here,
00:01:08.940 The trustees of the Rhodes Trust have appointed Chrystia Freeland as the next warden of Rhodes House and Chief Executive Officer of the Rhodes Trust.
00:01:22.060 Chrystia will start her role on the 1st of July, 2026,
00:01:25.400 taking over from Professor Sir Rick Traynor, KBE,
00:01:29.100 who has served as interim warden and CEO since the 1st of January, 2025.
00:01:35.740 Absolutely, Freeland is going to be resigning her seat. 1.00
00:01:39.220 This is a role where she literally needs to be in England in order to carry it out.
00:01:43.800 And everyone knows she really doesn't get along with Mark Carney at all,
00:01:48.160 which is quite funny considering I believe one of her children, children's godfather, is Mark Carney.
00:01:55.320 But Freeland's been having a falling out with him ever since he ended up becoming Prime Minister.
00:02:00.540 Because Freeland was actually unfairly thrown under the bus for a lot of the financial problems in the government,
00:02:06.800 which really were not her doing.
00:02:09.060 She was carrying out the orders of Prime Minister Justin Trudeau,
00:02:12.400 who was being advised by Mark Carney as his economic advisor.
00:02:17.180 And Freeland then had to take it on the chin when they blew past all of their red lines on the deficit.
00:02:22.860 And then Carney got to walk into office pretending like he's going to be the fiscally responsible one now, 1.00
00:02:29.120 even though he was the one telling Trudeau to do all the stupid crap 0.98
00:02:32.460 that involved having this massive deficit at the end of the year 2024. 0.99
00:02:36.960 He was the brainchild behind the GST-HST tax freeze over the holidays,
00:02:42.660 which not only went up like a lead balloon,
00:02:45.740 but also it caused the deficit to go from $40 billion up to $60 billion. 0.99
00:02:50.840 Most of that increase in the deficit that year was because of Mark Carney's stupid plan. 0.98
00:02:56.380 And now Freeland sits with no portfolio. 0.98
00:02:59.080 She resigned from cabinet a few months back after she was given just some paltry position 1.00
00:03:04.060 that really wasn't at her level as a former deputy prime minister and finance minister.
00:03:08.980 And so it is now very clear that she will probably be resigning at some point
00:03:12.440 her seat in University Rosedale to now pursue this job over at the Rhodes Society or whatever. 0.98
00:03:19.840 It's basically when people get like a Rhodes scholarship, this is where it comes from.
00:03:24.820 But now let's talk about some other individuals.
00:03:28.180 The next person I want to discuss is Nate Erskine-Smith.
00:03:32.540 Now, you will remember that name from about a video I made like a week ago.
00:03:38.180 He was talking, he was criticizing Mark Carney's 2025 liberal budget
00:03:43.100 as having basically been a big disappointment compared to how the liberals campaigned in the last election.
00:03:49.920 And he has a very deep problem with Mark Carney ever since he was kicked out of cabinet.
00:03:55.840 You will remember Nate Erskine-Smith was one of the people in the Liberal Party back in 2024
00:04:01.040 who declared that he was not going to be running for re-election in his York riding.
00:04:06.500 And then Mark Carney became prime minister and brought Erskine-Smith back
00:04:11.000 by promising to make him the minister of housing, which technically Mark Carney did make good on.
00:04:17.400 And Erskine-Smith had a wonderful tenure as housing minister for approximately three weeks
00:04:22.840 right up to the election in 2025.
00:04:25.820 After the election, not only was Erskine-Smith not the housing minister,
00:04:30.640 but the biggest insult of all, they deemed former Vancouver mayor Gregor Roberts
00:04:35.920 to be a more responsible person for housing than Erskine-Smith.
00:04:40.700 Gregor Roberts, famously the mayor when a lot of housing prices in Vancouver had basically doubled.
00:04:47.520 When he first became mayor and when he left as mayor after his second term,
00:04:51.960 housing prices had effectively doubled in the city in large part because of his own bad policies.
00:04:58.360 That was deemed better than Erskine-Smith.
00:05:01.180 Now, just yesterday, November 19th, 2025,
00:05:05.000 that is when the Ontario Liberal Party leadership race had just kicked off.
00:05:11.200 Bonnie Crombie had severely underperformed in her leadership review,
00:05:15.700 only getting 57% of the vote.
00:05:18.240 Naturally, she could not stay on, so she's resigned.
00:05:21.040 And Erskine-Smith very obviously wants to go and try and win that leadership for himself now.
00:05:27.320 Because really, what's the point of Erskine-Smith sitting in the Liberal Party
00:05:33.140 as a backbench MP with no responsibilities other than some committees to sit on?
00:05:38.040 It doesn't make absolutely any sense at all.
00:05:40.080 I do want to show you guys the stats from this last leadership for the Liberals in Ontario
00:05:45.740 to demonstrate that this isn't like some fringe thing that he might try and do.
00:05:50.880 This is a real possibility that Erskine-Smith could become the Ontario Liberal leader.
00:05:55.800 Not only is that party just very, very, you know, dead.
00:05:59.480 It's without much momentum.
00:06:00.920 It's still a third place party in terms of seats.
00:06:03.420 But he became, he came very close in the 2023 leadership race.
00:06:08.040 He ended up getting 46.59% of the vote when they went through all of the ballot,
00:06:16.080 like, you know, the first, second, third vote, because it is a ranked ballot.
00:06:20.400 He came very close to beating Bonnie Crombie.
00:06:23.560 And obviously, if he then goes and runs, he's pretty much the golden child
00:06:27.820 who is guaranteed to become leader unless some other, you know,
00:06:31.740 inspiring figure comes out from behind the curtains to challenge Erskine-Smith for it.
00:06:36.600 So he's another person who probably needs to resign sometime this winter break
00:06:41.140 if he wants to actually be able to put together a solid campaign
00:06:43.860 to run for Ontario Liberal leader in early next year,
00:06:47.980 because I believe that their leadership race is going to be wrapping up sometime in mid-2026.
00:06:54.140 We just have three more Liberal MPs I want to talk about potentially resigning.
00:06:59.460 These ones are a little bit more.
00:07:01.480 It depends on what happens over the next little bit.
00:07:04.100 We have the former public safety minister, who is somehow still not as bad as Gary Amasangari is right now.
00:07:10.280 We have Bill Blair, who is likely to end up leaving to take some sort of a diplomatic post,
00:07:15.940 whether that's in the United States or another country.
00:07:18.420 We have Ralph Goodale, a longtime Liberal veteran MP who may take over,
00:07:23.780 as I believe he's some diplomat in the UK.
00:07:26.800 There's some position out there he wants.
00:07:28.760 And then, of course, everyone's least favorite environment minister somehow,
00:07:34.060 despite the fact that Catherine McKenna was also environment minister at one point.
00:07:38.260 Stephen Gilboa, the former environment minister,
00:07:40.760 is also somebody who we are likely to see resign over the next little bit,
00:07:46.160 because he has not really been given the big role he's wanted out of this new government.
00:07:51.220 I think he's like minister of official languages or something like that.
00:07:55.760 But Stephen Gilboa doesn't really have anything else to achieve right now.
00:07:59.740 He's gotten his pension that was granted to him this October.
00:08:04.380 And right now he just basically is just puttering around in a government that is just not green enough for him, 0.92
00:08:11.940 not radical enough.
00:08:13.000 So why should he stick around?
00:08:14.920 And he shouldn't stick around.
00:08:16.160 And I would love for a bunch of these Liberal MPs to resign early,
00:08:20.040 because I want to see Pierre Polyev and the Conservatives be able to test their mettle against the Liberals in a by-election,
00:08:26.220 especially seeing where the NDP currently lies. 0.67
00:08:29.620 Because depending on how much of the vote the NDP is going to get in these by-elections,
00:08:33.280 we can kind of determine if the NDP is going to be more punching around 2019 election levels,
00:08:40.060 or they're going to be still stuck at this very low 2025 kind of results,
00:08:45.920 where they only got 6% nationally.
00:08:48.220 Previously, even with Singh underperforming, they would get 17, 18% of the vote.
00:08:54.860 With Thomas Malker, who was considered a flop,
00:08:58.280 I think they ended up getting like 22% of the vote or something like that.
00:09:02.220 And then with Singh in 2025, 6% only.
00:09:05.780 So in places like University Rosedale, in Stephen Gilboa's Montreal riding,
00:09:11.220 I really want to see where the NDP and the Bloc Québécois is.
00:09:14.840 Obviously, we always want to see the Conservatives doing better.
00:09:17.640 And actually, the best chance the Conservatives have to win another riding
00:09:21.700 would probably be Erskine-Smith's riding,
00:09:24.180 which is kind of in a more conservative part of the GTA.
00:09:27.980 Because while he was able to win his seat back in 2025,
00:09:31.100 it is an area of town where there is a lot more growth in conservative voting,
00:09:36.960 not just because of just general issues,
00:09:40.040 like policy issues that Polly runs on in terms of crime,
00:09:43.420 but also just because the Liberal Party, much like the Greens, much like the NDP,
00:09:48.180 has become a party that is soft on terrorism.
00:09:52.000 And in places like, I believe he's in East York,
00:09:54.960 you end up getting a lot of people in the Jewish community
00:09:58.220 who just can no longer bring themselves to voting for the Liberals
00:10:01.860 who seem to be soft on every single group out there who hates them.
00:10:05.980 Anyways, I actually maybe want to end this video off
00:10:08.160 looking at Erskine-Smith's results in this last election
00:10:12.480 to see how feasible it would be to win this thing.
00:10:16.280 Now, he ended up winning a large victory,
00:10:18.880 but it's not like a Montreal riding
00:10:20.680 where there's just no chance the Conservatives are going to win.
00:10:23.400 Montreal, literally the Conservatives, are a fourth-place, fifth-place party.
00:10:27.260 In Papineau, where Trudeau used to be the MP,
00:10:30.720 the Conservatives would get 4% or 5% of the vote only.
00:10:34.500 In Beaches, East York, Erskine-Smith got 67% of the vote,
00:10:39.440 and the Conservatives got 23.54%.
00:10:42.320 Previous elections, a little bit closer,
00:10:44.960 but it was actually with the NDP.
00:10:47.960 This is a much more woke part of town,
00:10:50.380 but it is a place where conceivably the Conservatives could grow.
00:10:53.620 Because, again, this used to be 16%, 14% party.
00:10:58.060 But in the most recent election, the Conservatives are up to 23%.
00:11:02.220 So if we can see continued growth from there,
00:11:05.280 going from 23% to 33%, even just 28%,
00:11:08.720 that would demonstrate that in the GTA,
00:11:12.260 the Conservatives are growing.
00:11:14.740 I am wrong to say that they could win the seat.
00:11:16.580 I think I was assuming it was more like Eglinton Lawrence.
00:11:23.420 Sometimes writing names are just annoying to say.
00:11:26.920 But, hey, you guys all get my point.
00:11:29.560 The Liberals are actually in a situation
00:11:31.480 where they actually could end up losing a bunch of seats
00:11:34.620 just because of the friction inside the Liberal Party.
00:11:37.800 And, again, I ask the media,
00:11:39.900 why is this something that they're not covering?
00:11:41.880 Because these have been pretty open rumors
00:11:43.660 that these people are going to leave.
00:11:45.420 And not all of them are leaving maybe due to age.
00:11:48.100 Ralph Goodale and Bill Blair could say,
00:11:50.020 I was naturally going to retire anyways.
00:11:52.240 It's the same excuse that Matt Gennaro had from the Conservatives.
00:11:55.160 He's not old, but he had family issues
00:11:57.380 that he wanted to attend to,
00:11:58.740 where he has his family living in Victoria,
00:12:01.260 and he's representing in Edmonton riding,
00:12:03.100 and people have been saying he's been wanting
00:12:04.380 to probably make this his last term anyways.
00:12:07.140 Those are all people's fine excuses.
00:12:09.760 Freeland, Gilboa, Nate Erskine-Smith,
00:12:12.360 not so much those are personal petty reasons.
00:12:15.860 Do we really think that Chrystia Freeland,
00:12:18.420 in a government where she had a high position,
00:12:20.380 would just resign out of nowhere
00:12:21.620 and go and be, like, the CEO
00:12:23.640 of where the Rhodes Scholarship's given out?
00:12:26.100 Probably not.
00:12:27.340 Would Erskine-Smith leave if he was housing minister right now?
00:12:29.800 No.
00:12:30.520 Would Gilboa leave if he was environment minister
00:12:33.020 and still had the same amount of power
00:12:34.400 as he did under Trudeau?
00:12:35.900 Not at all.
00:12:36.540 And Gilboa being sidelined doesn't mean
00:12:40.040 that this liberal government is not radical
00:12:42.440 on environmental issues.
00:12:44.060 They haven't retreated at all.
00:12:45.780 They just haven't been moving forward as fast
00:12:49.500 as someone like Stephen Gilboa would have wanted them to do.
00:12:52.660 They just passed a budget with the help of Elizabeth May
00:12:55.640 by promising her a bunch of green stuff.
00:12:58.040 But again, Gilboa wants them moving at 100 miles an hour,
00:13:02.000 and right now Carney's moving at, like, 30 miles an hour.
00:13:05.140 He's not reversing anything.
00:13:06.700 He's just moving along a little bit slower
00:13:09.280 than Stephen Gilboa would want him to.
00:13:11.600 They're still doubling the industrial carbon tax.
00:13:13.920 They're still passing their clean fuel standards
00:13:16.100 in order to tax people more
00:13:17.420 in this kind of backdoor carbon tax.
00:13:20.240 They're not good on this issue.
00:13:22.160 They're just not as communistic
00:13:24.360 as Stephen Gilboa would maybe want them to be
00:13:26.860 because that guy's an actual, like, left-wing radical
00:13:29.140 who got his way into the Liberal Party.
00:13:31.600 Anyways, with that all being said,
00:13:33.400 thank you guys for watching.
00:13:35.140 Like, share, and subscribe,
00:13:36.140 and I'll see you all later.