87% Leadership Vote for Poilievre kills of Liberal media narrative of ＂disunity＂ inside the CPC
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In this episode of the National Telegraph YouTube channel, Wyatt Claypool breaks down some of the biggest news from the Conservative Party Leadership Convention, including the results of Pierre Polyev's leadership review vote, and the reasons why it came out so high.
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Hey guys, Wyatt Claypool here, and welcome back to the National Telegraph YouTube channel.
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In this video, I want to break down some of the important things that happened
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at the Conservative Party convention that took place in my home city of Calgary this weekend.
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That was also the reason I didn't upload a video the last couple of days.
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I was just so busy, I did not have the ability to actually film a video.
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But we will be making up for it in the next few days by making way more videos,
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breaking down a lot of the news that I missed covering.
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But let's talk about some of the big things that happened this weekend,
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starting off with the biggest piece of news, which is the results of Pierre Polyev's leadership review vote.
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Pierre Polyev did really well in his leadership review,
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but I do want to break down some of the nuance of why it came out as high as it did,
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because I don't like to just present you a number and then say, oh, isn't that amazing?
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I do want to actually tell you kind of how the sausage is made in this video a bit.
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But surface level, as reported here by Mark Nixon, who I had a good time talking to at the convention,
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Yet the media keeps pretending conservatives are fractured.
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Now, Polyev did get an impressively high leadership approval vote.
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He had 87.4% of delegates who attended the convention voting thumbs up on his leadership,
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with only, of course, 12.6% voting against him.
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And that is probably some people out in eastern Canada,
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maybe in parts of Nova Scotia, Newfoundland, New Brunswick,
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probably not really New Brunswick, but, you know, Prince Edward Island,
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But 12.6% is so low, we're talking about maybe a few hundred people,
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a couple hundred people voting no, and then thousands of people voting yes.
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I didn't end up actually voting in this review because I was a delegate alternate,
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which meant I didn't actually have to be in any particular room to vote on stuff.
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I could just kind of circulate and do my main task when I was there,
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which was actually ferrying around 1BC leader Dallas Brody and introducing her to people
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and trying to find common ground with some federal officials on issues that 1BC is tackling
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in, of course, the province of British Columbia.
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But with Polyev getting 87%, you have to remember that it might have been lower,
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but obviously parties do try and make sure as many loyalists do show up.
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Stephen Harper getting 84.6% would have also been achieved with him trying to encourage
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as many people who like him to show up as possible.
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So it is probably right that if we were to get a true approval rating for Pierre Polyev,
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it's maybe around 82%, 80% if they didn't encourage as many people who really liked him to show up.
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Back in 2005, if Harper had not probably been pushing for people to show up who would vote in favor of him,
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We know this year what numbers are that are not robust.
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John Rustad only getting 70.6% in his review vote for the BC Conservative leadership was bad.
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Bonnie Crombie for the Liberals only getting 56% meant that she had to step down.
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Merit Stiles, I believe, got 68%, and she is holding on to the Ontario NDP leadership by the skin of her teeth right now.
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I only went into the nuance of parties making sure loyalists show up,
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because some people are saying this is disproving polling that showed that Polyev's approval rating among Conservatives was like 72% or 75%.
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You do have to remember, though, that is Conservative Party voters, not Conservative Party members.
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Members obviously have an extra incentive, or not incentive, that makes it sound nefarious in some way,
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but they are more likely to basically see through negative reporting about Polyev for being kind of manipulative or fake or liberal propaganda.
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So a member is more likely to like Polyev than a just normal supporter.
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It would be like Mark Carney's approval rating inside the party among Liberal Party members is going to be like 92%,
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considering that he won and he generally gives them all that they want.
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But if you went to Liberal Party voters, it would probably be down around 83% or 84%,
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because some people may have voted and are not like ride-or-die Liberals, and they now disapprove of him.
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But I wanted to then move on to another thing that I think ends up, this is basically the thing I'm responding to.
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This is where I think people need to understand the nuances of these results.
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This one guy, Kevin here, and there's no slag against him.
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I understand the mistake people are making here. It's very understandable.
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He says, Carney, 85% equals blowout win. Polyev, 87.4% equals survives.
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Now, I don't necessarily disagree with the reporting here, because yeah, they don't want to give Polyev the fact that he won an overwhelming,
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he won like overwhelmingly in his leadership review vote.
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But at the same time, it is a blowout win for Carney to get 85% in a leadership race.
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Now, I don't think he actually won 85% of the vote, because if you look at that Liberal Party leadership race,
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At the very least, his opponents like Chrystia Freeland, and what was it?
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People like, I don't even remember the other people.
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They were so boring, I couldn't even think of them.
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And Carney, it got 85% against people who weren't really trying,
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but he was running against other opponents with pure poly if he's just running thumbs up or thumbs down.
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But the media is getting absolutely shredded in terms of their narrative after this leadership review vote,
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because they genuinely were trying to pretend like there was a chance that Polyev is only going to achieve 62%
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and have pressure to step down, or he's going to only get 70%,
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and it's going to indicate a Quebec MP is going to cross the floor,
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or somebody else from the Maritimes, or somebody from the GTA area.
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No, if anyone ends up leaving, it's simply because they have petty issues that have nothing really to do
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with the party's direction or pure poly if it's an individual.
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You know, there's always people who don't love the leader.
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But there's nothing especially dysfunctional about the Conservative Party going on right now
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In fact, I would say the party has been trying to improve things internally.
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Now, it's not perfect, but they've been taking at least baby steps in certain areas
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in order to try and restrict the leader's ability to put,
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or not really the leader as much as the leadership team,
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their ability to put their thumb on the scale of nominations.
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Now, it is always annoying when I'm walking around the convention hall
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and you'll see party consultants and, you know, campaign strategists
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going to the constitutional session that happens at the convention,
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and you have grassroots conservatives proposing these transparency measures
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to make it so that if you kick somebody out of a party nomination like I was in Signal Hill,
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that they do have to give you a reason for why you were kicked out
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You know, that it restricts the ability for them to kick people out
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or measures that force them to basically, like, to not be able to appoint as many candidates.
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But you have all these party consultants sitting on the other side of the room
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That's funny that all these people who work for campaigns
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are really in favor of people being disqualified or their guy being appointed
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they know all these unfair party rulings don't typically go after the sort of candidates
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A lot of very, you know, professional lawyer, consultant, lobbyist types
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who like to run for office because they're very networked.
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Generally speaking, the policy that the Conservative Party had put forward
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I found it very silly that people were saying it's too contentious
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that basically say that it's not wrong for parents to, like, encourage their child
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not to transition, like, you know, gender transition.
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Transitioning a kid, especially somebody who, you know, as I'm indicating again,
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Trying to teach a boy that they might be a girl or a girl that they might be a boy
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But you got people who stand up usually from, you know, very blue liberal type background.
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It's like, guys, the moderate voter, quote unquote, they, in fact, support this type of stuff.
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They don't want kids being indoctrinated with these type of ideologies in school.
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They don't want boys and biological males in girl sports.
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And people just need to basically, like, settle back.
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They are, in fact, to the right of where most people think a moderate voter is.
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The moderates are on, at the very least, the center right.
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And they're at least somewhat socially conservative, at the very least, in reaction to just how progressive
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our Canadian or government's institutions have gotten.
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Just how much the kind of popular elitist culture has gotten.
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But I'm going to go over a lot more of, like, the liberal reaction to all this and the polling that's gone on.
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But in this video, I do want to highlight a couple of things I found interesting.
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We will be breaking this down on the whiteboard in a different video.
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But in the midst of all of the, I guess, hubbub around of poly of as a stable leader of the
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Conservative Party is fractured, as Mark Nixon disputed in his post, rightfully so, we have
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Polera Strategic Insights that released this polling result right before we went into the
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Now, this is indicating that if there is a new federal election, all of the gains the
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Conservatives got in the southwest of Ontario and in places in Newfoundland and Labrador
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and in certain places of British Columbia and Winnipe and Manitoba, they're going to
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Polera Strategic Insights on X says, our deep dive on blue-collar workers finds many Canadians
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will see the NDP as a party that does the most to help blue-collar workers.
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But very few blue-collar workers themselves feel this way.
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And now, that really demonstrates just, again, the disconnect between a lot of political watchers
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This is whenever I hear, again, the myth of the moderate voter, the moderate voter who
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wants you to be milquetoast and then they'll vote for you.
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If a conservative is, you know, a little fiscally conservative and they don't talk about social
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issues and they don't make a big deal about cultural issues, then this mythical moderate
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The same people who think that that is how moderate voters work, quote-unquote, they're
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the same people who think that the NDP is like the party that really stands up for workers.
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Non-blue-collar workers as well as everybody else answering this poll question on the left.
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So right here, you see 19% of people select the NDP, 27% conservative, 15% liberal, 13% say none
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Now, even though the conservatives lead on this one, 27 to 19, that's still significant that the
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That is disproportionately higher than they usually would be in a national poll.
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And national polls these days, they're at like 9%.
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So they're overperforming in this poll by like 10% or 11% when you ask people who stands up
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But then you look to the right and you actually ask blue-collar workers who stands up for them.
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41% say conservative, 15% say liberal, 15% said none of them, and 11% say NDP, 18% say don't
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Now, on the blue-collar workers' side, obviously, that's the subset of the overall 3,000.
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Let's assume it's even a few hundred, 500 people who would classify them that way.
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And the thing is, the reason why, that's not just significant, that's overwhelming.
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41% nearly a majority, and that's including undecideds added into the poll.
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Well, 41% believe the conservative party is the blue-collar party, and it has nothing
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Now, it kind of does, but I mean in a historical sense.
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The conservative party hasn't moved left and become like the fist-in-the-air workers' rights
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We need to unionize and take down the corporate man.
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And in fact, it's not even good for blue-collar workers to do those sorts of policies in government.
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But the conservatives are winning these people because they talk like blue-collar workers.
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And so much of politics is about not just perception.
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The liberals are too corporate for blue-collar workers.
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They're too much about the GDP and a lot of kind of Bay Street concerns about government
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like stimulus for the economy to make sure that the growth rate stays high enough, although
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And the NDP is so kind of bloated and lethargic about its rights to the workers and down with
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the oligarchs-type rhetoric that a lot of these blue-collar workers rightfully just find
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And a lot of blue-collar workers are kind of guys that would listen to AM radio, would
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You know, don't care about the weird hipster-type podcast that the NDP stalwarts would be listening
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And so this is where I think that the Conservative Party is going to be looking far more robust
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going into the next election than a lot of people think.
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Now, again, here's another thing I'm going to bring up on screen that I'm not necessarily
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going to fully talk about today because I think you'll find it interesting for me to
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But there was this poll that came out from ECOS, oddly enough, right before the convention,
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that showed the Conservatives at like a massive deficit to the Liberals, like one where I think
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even Liberal supporters would understand why I don't trust this poll.
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Sorry, you're seeing me screw around on my computer trying to find this thing.
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Uh, I should probably remove that while I'm looking around.
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So here is the new ECOS poll with 1,300 people surveyed, 44% Liberal, 30% Conservative, 14% NDP,
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Now, I don't think most pollsters are out there to manipulate public opinion until I see polls
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The ECOS is a PR firm, and it's so clear that the media and many polling institutions these
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Isn't it kind of funny at the same time when the media is speculating if Polyev is not going
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We have these poll results being farted out into the public, basically showing that Polyev's a
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disaster, and look, he's down 14 points, and even the NDP is at 14 points, so they're almost
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closer to the Conservatives, and the Conservatives are closer to the Liberals.
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The Block's only at 5%, that doesn't even make sense.
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The Parti Québécois provincially in Quebec right now is doing great.
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They're leading the pack by 12 points, and there's like six parties that run in
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That's a massive lead in a very cramped political environment like that, and the Block is only
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at 5%, which would translate to them getting absolutely destroyed by the Liberals.
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They'd be like trailing them by like 16 points or something like that, or 17 points.
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No, this is not how public opinion moves, unless you're a propagandist trying to manipulate
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You're giving articles for the Cult MTL and the Toronto Star to write up about how Polyev's
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in a disastrous position, so that the voter in the middle who's thinking about voting
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Conservative because they don't really like the lack of deliverables that the Liberals
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Make them think, well, I can't vote for them, and I want to vote for what a lot of people
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seem to be wanting to go for, and then they'll go and throw their lot in with the Liberals.
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This does not affect most voters, but it does affect marginal voters, and that is why propaganda
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Yes, it's not going to change the votes of 3% or 4% of people, but, you know, when you
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have a tight election and people are winning ridings by only like 100 votes or something
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like that, bandwagoning does get people to vote a certain way, and if they can create
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an artificial bandwagon effect, maybe they can move some voters from the Conservative category
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Anyways, with that all being said, I will be back in the future to break down some more
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numbers, break down some more reactions to the convention, some really egregious media
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commentary around it, but I don't want to do it while I'm as tired as I currently am,
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Thank all of you who showed up to the Ranchman's event that the pleb graciously organized for
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Thank you for everyone who, you know, came up to me, said hi, took a photo.
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I was very, very grateful that everyone was able to, you know, I was able to talk to so
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many people and that you guys actually do appreciate the show.
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I am kind of shocked how many people can, like, reference things I said, like, months
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Apparently, a lot of people have a much more photographic memory than even I do.
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Anyways, thank you guys for watching, like, share, and subscribe, and I'll see you all later.