The National Telegraph - Wyatt Claypool - October 12, 2026


After 110,000 Lost Jobs Carney Liberals Asking Trump For Trade Deal!

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00:00:00.000 After the Canadian economy lost 110,000 jobs in just two months, it looks like the Mark Carney Liberals are starting to beg the Trump administration to get back to the trade negotiating table.
00:00:13.700 You may be thinking, but Wyatt, it was the Carney Liberals who walked away from the table the two last times.
00:00:20.800 And yes, that's true.
00:00:22.900 But the Carney liberals always liked to pretend it was somehow the Americans who got talks to fall apart.
00:00:28.620 And it wasn't them playing politics to try and boost the liberals' polling numbers.
00:00:32.660 That's obviously what the game was.
00:00:34.660 They kept getting the high of fighting with Trump and seeing their poll numbers boost.
00:00:39.760 But then when the bad job numbers started to hit, those good vibes from elbows-up politics can only last so long.
00:00:47.700 because Carney has basically generated 110,000 new conservative voters
00:00:54.420 through all of these job losses over the past two months.
00:00:57.760 One of those months being August, a month where you should be gaining jobs.
00:01:02.600 By the way, the last two months, September and August,
00:01:06.160 the Americans gained 975,000 jobs.
00:01:11.540 And that's what leads us to today.
00:01:13.420 Dominic LeBlanc going on the CBC to talk Rosemary Barton about how things are going with trade and
00:01:21.220 trying to ease back into talks with the Americans. And I'm going to start off with a part of the
00:01:27.140 interview that isn't technically about trade, but it is about trade because remember a few days ago
00:01:32.740 when I was talking about the CBC and other media trying to like basically fear monger that the
00:01:39.640 Alberta separatists, the Alberta independence movement. They're fraternizing with Republican
00:01:44.440 strategists, and they're selling off chunks of Alberta in secret meetings. That was so overblown,
00:01:50.960 so dumb. It was like Jeff Rath and Mitch Sylvester had a singular meeting with the GOP 0.99
00:01:56.720 strategist in Michigan, and this got turned into a wide-ranging conspiracy theory that the movement
00:02:02.600 was like full of traitors trying to undermine both Canadian and Alberta sovereignty for the
00:02:07.800 Americans. At the start of the segment, I'm going to show you Dominic LeBlanc showing that he's
00:02:14.000 trying to be friendly to the Americans actually rejects this idea when it's put to him by Rosemary
00:02:18.920 Barton that this was somehow what was going on here. Part of the problem here is that some of
00:02:25.300 the calls are coming from inside the house, right? Some of the separatists have reportedly gone down
00:02:30.700 and met with people, officials in the U.S., promising them things, assets that Alberta has
00:02:37.080 if they were to help them.
00:02:38.500 How do you handle things when it is being solicited by Canadians
00:02:42.160 but could be viewed as still as being interference?
00:02:48.320 Well, we'll let those people explain to Albertans
00:02:53.580 why they thought it was useful to take some trip to Washington
00:02:57.720 and meet some people in a foreign administration
00:03:01.100 to hold out some kind of commitments
00:03:04.620 that they may or may not ever be able to deliver like a lot of people buy air tickets rosemary
00:03:10.120 and travel around to places and have meetings with people who pretend to be decision makers
00:03:15.700 and other contexts i do you i am kind of startled and in a certain sense i'm not startled by it
00:03:22.760 because i know what he's doing here he's trying to be friendly to the americans but he's being
00:03:26.700 oddly reasonable because the liberals who were on these cbc panels before were talking about how
00:03:33.440 all these guys are traitors and whatnot. And they're trying to undermine Canadian sovereignty
00:03:38.340 by promising the Americans they can take our water and they can take our resources if they
00:03:43.540 just help rig the election for the Alberta independence. It was so overblown. The story
00:03:49.400 that it was all based on from the Globe and Mail and the CBC was like nothing. It was like tatters
00:03:54.460 of nothing. There was just some guys had a conversation and they reportedly talked about
00:03:59.220 resources in Alberta, which obviously was probably in the context of, hey, we should have free trade
00:04:04.620 because we have such great raw resources and we'll be super friendly to you. And you can you can buy
00:04:09.300 water and oil and gas and wheat from us. Like that's obviously what was what happened and was
00:04:14.620 probably Trump administration officials and GOP strategists who are low level. And like Dominic
00:04:20.880 LeBlanc is saying, they were just talking and pretending to be decision makers and wanting to
00:04:25.440 feel important everyone all around the table was probably trying to puff themselves up quite a bit
00:04:30.500 but again this is not an answer i usually expect from a carny uh liberal but if you need to get
00:04:38.580 back to the trade table you need to actually be realistic and reasonable about the situation
00:04:43.380 rather than immediately going to trader talk um people move around and have all kinds of meetings
00:04:50.320 and then talk about, oh, I met this very important official in this foreign government, in this
00:04:56.720 boardroom, in some foreign capital. This stuff happens all the time. We have made it clear to
00:05:04.000 the United States that we expect them to respect the sovereignty of Canada. We have a democratic
00:05:10.420 process that's run under Canadian law, in this case, the law of the province of Alberta. And we
00:05:18.820 have made it clear at the very highest levels of the United States government that we have an 1.00
00:05:23.920 expectation that they'll respect our sovereignty as we will another foreign country going through
00:05:29.020 an open and free election. This past week, the U.S. Trade Representative, Jameson Greer,
00:05:35.080 so she had to move on from that one very quickly because I think she realized that
00:05:38.480 he, for political reasons, is not going to bite on the typical left-wing CBC narrative on this
00:05:44.540 alberta independence story this this fake controversy i'm not pro-independence but i i
00:05:50.020 hope that people realize who are and i think that you have many good arguments i don't agree with
00:05:53.820 them all some of them are good some of them i think get a little hyperbolic but whatever 0.75
00:05:57.260 but hopefully you'll always appreciate i hate like rat poison all of these cbc journalists and
00:06:04.400 other people from other outlets pretending that every single time an alberta independence person
00:06:09.500 picks up a glass of water it's somehow tantamount to treason the canada is preoccupied with the
00:06:15.420 quebec election why do you think he's pointing to that as as the focus of of the canadian government
00:06:21.660 i don't know i spoke to jameson uh earlier this week we had um we had a conversation that didn't
00:06:31.840 touch on this um jameson from various times asks me about canadian politics he follows it he's
00:06:39.280 interested in it. I think it's interesting that a U.S. cabinet level secretary is following
00:06:44.780 Canadian domestic politics. I don't know why he would have said that. In my conversations with
00:06:51.400 him, we're not focusing on provincial election results. We're focusing on tariffs that we think
00:06:58.580 are unjustified and that are hurting the Canadian economy and creating circumstances for Canadian
00:07:04.740 workers um that aren't helpful so that that's the focus of my conversations with him so so when when
00:07:12.020 are those conversations uh like it's encouraging that you're you're both speaking to each other
00:07:16.180 but when do those conversations turn into something more um because obviously we're
00:07:20.500 seeing we're seeing some of the the damaging effects of tariffs stelco is is maybe
00:07:29.300 instance but but that is sort of the most recent one so i thought we could be our own best customer
00:07:33.700 i thought we didn't need the americans because that's another thing that the cbc have been
00:07:36.900 playing into but notice the kind of tiptoeing into the like you know the liberals are kind of
00:07:42.820 tiptoeing back into the jacuzzi with the americans now wanting to talk again and now like again we're
00:07:49.000 all admitting that the tariffs are really damaging for the economy when before we had this ridiculous
00:07:54.320 idea that somehow canada was going to be stronger because we're not trading with the americans as
00:07:59.500 much that we're just going to go find trade partners elsewhere you know we'll somehow get
00:08:04.360 a trade partner better than the one that we share the longest undefended border with on the planet 1.00
00:08:09.900 yeah let's go and try and replace them with china and like belgium it was always stupid it was always 0.95
00:08:16.980 just a dumb idea but now he's obviously as she's uh reacting to here the there has been side talks 0.98
00:08:25.220 to try and get back to the real talks 0.89
00:08:27.360 that Dominic LeBlanc was going to continue to describe here.
00:08:32.240 When do your calls become something else, more formal?
00:08:37.760 Would it be after the midterms?
00:08:41.220 And you're right, Rosemary, in the sense that we are seeing
00:08:44.840 some of the effects of these American tariffs
00:08:48.180 on certain sectors of the Canadian economy.
00:08:51.940 The example of Stelco is one.
00:08:54.120 It's true in other sectors. It's true in softwood lumber. It's true in some parts of the economy that were hit with these tariffs in the summer, the 338 tariffs.
00:09:05.580 What we've said to the Americans, the prime minister has said it publicly, we say it to our counterparts when we talk to them privately,
00:09:13.940 that we're prepared to negotiate an arrangement that we think is in the economic and sovereign interests of Canada.
00:09:21.340 they know what that means they know where we were when the conversation or the negotiations
00:09:27.900 the formal negotiations were interrupted at the end of august um the cop they're not interrupted
00:09:34.500 you guys walked away from them that was the problem you guys could have kept talking you
00:09:40.280 can even say i don't like these terms i don't like these terms but we're going to keep negotiating
00:09:44.340 but i'm not going to agree to anything until i like what we're getting they walked away for
00:09:47.820 political reasons and now they're acting like oh the talks were interrupted no carney said he had
00:09:53.200 ended the talks conversations and ambassador greer jameson has said this rosemary to american media
00:09:59.300 i thought it was a good way to say it he said that in his conversations with his counterpart
00:10:04.940 in canada it's about looking for alternatives to the current circumstance so um it's not a formal
00:10:11.800 negotiation. We're not exchanging legal texts of an agreement. But we know where the negotiations
00:10:19.700 were interrupted at the end of August. And if there's a way to put us on a trajectory that
00:10:25.240 brings these terrorists down and sets us up in a different economic circumstance, then
00:10:30.940 the prime minister will have a decision to make and we'll decide at that point if there's a
00:10:35.700 negotiation to resume. But it does look, and this will be the last question, it does look, minister,
00:10:40.140 like uh the midterms are going to be um are going to have an impact on the trump administration
00:10:46.300 uh so surely that would be a window for the canadian government to if you know the
00:10:52.140 administration is weakened uh by what happens in the midterms
00:10:58.140 and again rosemary sure i've seen speculation political scientists spend a lot of time and
00:11:03.180 commentators talking about what happens on the other side of the midterms that's an american
00:11:08.700 democratic process americans will choose their representatives in congress um president trump's
00:11:15.720 administration will be in office for two more years which is always the thing that people forget
00:11:19.780 they always act like somehow you get to the magical line of the midterms and the democrats
00:11:24.160 take both houses of congress and and now now trump will have to make a deal with us it's like and
00:11:30.500 again notice this entire time that dominic leblanc is not taking the debate here from rosemary barton
00:11:37.800 because elbows up politics is why we lost 110,000 jobs.
00:11:42.600 So he's having to slowly maneuver himself off that pot
00:11:45.980 so that we stop hurting ourselves with all of this kind of nonsense.
00:11:50.780 It's not because the tariffs were justified or anything like that.
00:11:53.900 Of course not. I don't like the tariffs.
00:11:55.940 But the Canadian response to it from the Liberal government has just been foolish. 0.82
00:12:00.300 And a great deal of the authority that he's using to apply these tariffs,
00:12:05.180 of course is executive authority which won't be changed by the midterm so we'll let american
00:12:11.080 politics play out um we're going to continue to try and remain focused um on finding a deal that
00:12:17.820 would would be in the economic and sovereign interests of the country okay minister dominic
00:12:22.300 leblanc thanks for making the time hope you have a turkey waiting for you thanks
00:12:25.000 yeah so they're very obviously trying to get back to the table here with the trump administration
00:12:33.020 You wouldn't be making all these soft comments and talking about how him and Jameson Greer are seeing how we can get back to the table one day.
00:12:40.960 It's like, no, you approach them because you guys just absolutely just ate dirt in the last two months on jobs and the Americans gained nearly a million jobs.
00:12:52.080 Yes, they have a population about like eight, nine times bigger than ours or so.
00:12:56.640 But there's a difference between, you know, we create 100,000 jobs and they create a million jobs.
00:13:02.660 And there's a difference between that and we lost 110,000 jobs and they gained nearly a million jobs.
00:13:08.660 Here's the problem.
00:13:09.840 Our domestic economy sucks because our taxes and regulations are just too high.
00:13:17.640 The only way the Canadian economy actually functions properly, being weighed down with bad liberal taxes and regulations, is at the very least having good market access to the Americans. 0.63
00:13:28.620 If the domestic economy sucks, and you can't really trade with the Americans on every good across the board easily, well, what's the point of investing?
00:13:37.780 That's what Stelco basically said. 1.00
00:13:39.800 And the media looked absolutely stupid. 1.00
00:13:42.660 The media and the liberals looked absolutely stupid trying to go after the Stelco CEO. 1.00
00:13:48.520 It's a different specific company that owns it. 0.99
00:13:50.720 Where he had to point out like, no, I've never signed anything saying I have to keep jobs in.
00:13:54.700 And then Mark Warner, the trade expert, he's like the trade lawyer.
00:13:58.180 I like that his suicide pact comment of saying, I'm sorry, are we now just only going to sustain the economy based on suing every company that tries to, like, that cuts a job?
00:14:09.660 You can't make the Canadian economy a suicide pact where if you create 2,000 steel jobs that the Canadian government, because of any tax breaker grant you've ever gotten,
00:14:19.820 If you cut one job because now you can barely move steel into the U.S. at all, that they're now going to rip you to shreds in court because you dared cross the Canadian government on the economy.
00:14:32.920 I actually want to go back to one of those clips because it was kind of mesmerizing how much they got caught out on this.
00:14:38.720 So just look at this quickly.
00:14:43.240 Oh, actually, no, I don't want to use that clip.
00:14:45.680 I want to go back to this post by Mark Warner.
00:14:49.080 I thought it just summed things up really well.
00:14:50.760 I think I even showed it last show.
00:14:52.160 It's just a really good point because Melanie Jolie really had to do a climb down a couple
00:14:56.560 of days ago on how tough she was talking with Stelko.
00:14:59.520 We're taking them to court on Tuesday.
00:15:01.260 We're going to like, you know, push them through a wall.
00:15:03.940 You know, I'm going to bully the CEO until he hires back all these people.
00:15:07.200 Not that she actually said these things, but she was like being really bold about how the
00:15:10.640 Canadian government's going to take them to task. 0.94
00:15:12.620 And then she put out this like really pathetic statement where she just said the Canadian
00:15:16.420 government continues to expect stelco to meet its legally binding commitments to employees 0.80
00:15:20.540 as are you know like all options are on the table these commitments were agreed upon and like that's 0.71
00:15:26.780 complete crap and they've and the stelco ceo has pointed out but i always like mark warner's point
00:15:32.040 here one month after splashing out for a pricey canned investment summit to rebrand the country 0.98
00:15:39.300 as open for investment the same geniuses now insist that a company has to implement investment
00:15:45.480 Canada undertakings in the face of
00:15:47.600 unforeseeable trade war and
00:15:49.460 the Canadian response to it.
00:15:51.660 Yep, that's basically what the liberals
00:15:53.600 are doing. You know, come
00:15:55.560 to invest in Canada. It's a
00:15:57.560 shotgun marriage, but don't worry guys,
00:15:59.440 it'll be a good investment, but if
00:16:01.500 you decide it's not later, we will try
00:16:03.520 and take you to court and sue you for tens
00:16:05.580 of millions of dollars. Anyways,
00:16:08.160 with all that being said,
00:16:09.920 thank you guys for watching.
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