The National Telegraph - Wyatt Claypool - October 10, 2024


BC Conservatives see polling bump after debate - Eby Fumbles

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David Eby John Rustad John Horgan Sonia Firstenow Danielle Smith Sam Harris Haida Gwaii Von Palmer Notley Chris
The BC debate was a disaster for David Eby David Eby projected to lose his riding! (CPBC lead by 6%)

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In this episode of the Wyatt Claypool Show, I discuss the latest polls, the debate, and why I think the media is out of touch with the average voter. I also talk about why I don't want to talk about polls that are bad for the Conservatives.

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00:00:00.000 Hello, everyone. Welcome back to the Wyatt Claypool Show. And we have a lot to talk about today in regards to the BC provincial election. New polls, old polls. I want to go over the debate again because I think I was proven very correct about how the average voter was actually going to react to each of the leaders' performances, as well as I just want to talk about the general direction of this provincial election.
00:00:26.740 But before I get into this, I want to remind you all to like this video, subscribe, comment if you notice anything that you want to comment about because I actually do read the comments. I always mention this stuff way at the end of the video, so excuse me if I mention it now because I am terrible at self-promotion.
00:00:43.240 Anyways, before I get into talking about the leaders' debate, because I think it reflects why we're seeing a big poll balance for the BC Conservatives, I want to talk about one old poll I had a lot of people on social media, as well as in the comments of past videos I've made, asking me about the Leger poll.
00:01:02.020 The problem with this Leger poll and why I didn't talk about it is not because it was bad for the Conservatives. I will talk about polls that are bad for the Conservatives, just as I have in the past.
00:01:13.040 The reason I have not commented on this Leger poll other than on social media just to say I don't think it's a good poll is, like I just said there, it's not a good poll.
00:01:22.020 Leger does put out good polls, but the problem with online polls, it's a lot of people voluntarily taking the poll.
00:01:27.640 When I say voluntarily, it's not like there's a portal on Twitter where you can go and take it yourself, like you can't target yourself towards this poll.
00:01:35.980 But Leger uses an online panel where they randomly serve up to the polls to people who are willing to just take surveys online.
00:01:44.540 And those tend to skew very young because you get gift cards for filling out the polls.
00:01:48.540 And that's not bad, you need to offer some incentives so people are actually willing to do product surveys and whatnot.
00:01:53.740 The problem with the Leger poll and why I don't take it as a serious measure of how this election is going to go in British Columbia is women under 35, as Chris from the Great Canadian Bagel podcast pointed out to me, were severely oversampled. 0.98
00:02:09.000 You can't oversample any demographic group if you know through decades of past elections, they don't vote in large numbers compared to other groups.
00:02:17.500 In this poll sample, and women under 35 tend to lean heavily towards the BC NDP, just as middle-aged men lean very heavily towards the Conservative Party.
00:02:28.900 And so this demographic group, women under 35, were like almost double what they should usually be in any turnout model.
00:02:36.620 That you assume that people under 35, because they don't vote that much, should be about 20 to 25% of the electorate.
00:02:43.200 And in this poll, it was like women under 35 were like 20% themselves.
00:02:47.940 So naturally, it pushed up the BC NDP.
00:02:51.420 And if you looked at some of the other numbers, the Conservatives were doing well in regions they usually aren't doing as well.
00:02:56.200 And the NDP was doing worse in regions that they're not, that they usually do well in.
00:03:00.600 It was very strange.
00:03:01.600 Like the BC NDP were up in the rest of BC, not winning, but they were doing oddly well in rural BC.
00:03:08.020 They were doing well in Vancouver Island, and Metro Vancouver was more of a fight.
00:03:12.460 That's a bad poll.
00:03:13.480 That's why I'm not talking about it.
00:03:14.680 I'll talk about polls that are bad numbers for the Conservatives if it's realistic numbers.
00:03:19.800 There's been other polls that came out where they had nobody polled under the age of 50, basically. 0.96
00:03:24.060 We didn't talk about those because they were just crap polls. 0.97
00:03:27.000 There's no point in talking about crap polls because it's bad information. 0.97
00:03:30.400 Anyways, now I want to talk again about the leaders' debate. 0.93
00:03:34.360 Why?
00:03:34.760 You talked about the leaders' debate yesterday.
00:03:36.220 Yes, sorry if I was rambly.
00:03:38.320 I finally got my mic working properly now, so it doesn't sound like you're listening to me through a fast food speaker.
00:03:44.400 But I want to talk about the debate again, not to go over it, but to talk about the media's reactions and why I think the media is so out of touch with the average voter.
00:03:55.020 Because I was one of the very few people, even on the more center-right media, who was, or more center-right to right media, like online media,
00:04:03.460 who thought that John Rusted did a really good job.
00:04:06.300 Every single leader, when they go into a debate, has a different goal than the other leaders.
00:04:12.360 John Rusted had to come off like the steady, professional man who is speaking to the issues that you care about who's ready to be premier.
00:04:19.640 That is what he had to do.
00:04:20.920 Frankly, he had the same job that Daniel Smith in 2023 had.
00:04:24.420 Daniel Smith's a very outspoken person on the radio, in the media, and so she had to show that I can be buttoned down and professional.
00:04:32.020 And she did that, and Notley looked like a fool, because for weeks she'd been playing up that Daniel Smith is erratic and extreme.
00:04:39.080 Same thing with David Eby. 0.90
00:04:40.720 He's been playing up that Rusted is radical and extreme, and he says weird things, which doesn't describe John at all.
00:04:46.900 John's a very steady individual.
00:04:48.560 If anything, you could say he has a very beige personality.
00:04:51.780 Not in a bad way.
00:04:52.920 He just isn't a fiery person.
00:04:54.900 He doesn't get emotional about things.
00:04:56.880 But in that debate, he identified the issues that BC voters care about,
00:05:00.560 and that's really going to connect with people who feel like the government's not listening to them.
00:05:05.540 Then the legacy media thought, for some reason, that David Eby and Sonia Firstenow did well.
00:05:11.140 David Eby was adolescently annoying.
00:05:13.820 It was like someone's teenage son on stage debating them on whether or not they should do their homework,
00:05:20.040 and David Eby thinks that homework's a big waste of time, so he's rolling his eyes, jabbing at people.
00:05:25.480 Oh, you never know which John Rusted's going to show up to a debate. 0.96
00:05:28.960 It was one of the stupidest lines of the night, because John is the most consistent person I've ever seen in my life in terms of performance. 0.94
00:05:35.420 John is the same in person as he is on a podcast, as he is at a rally. 0.99
00:05:39.960 And David Eby's staring at people this way, not looking at the camera, jabbing at people, 0.95
00:05:47.540 pretending that he's in a position where he can criticize others, was utterly ridiculous.
00:05:52.760 I talked to so many people at the door and in public yesterday in Port Moody, Burquitlam, 0.54
00:05:59.540 Burk Mountain, Maple Ridge East.
00:06:03.080 I had a big sampling of different areas around the Metro Vancouver area.
00:06:06.760 Everyone thought David Eby was a pest that night.
00:06:10.780 They hated him.
00:06:11.920 And the media crowned like Sonia First knows the winner, which is like the most typically Canadian legacy left media thing to do.
00:06:19.180 Oh, the irrelevant left-wing party leader did the best.
00:06:22.640 No, she didn't.
00:06:23.920 She's some farmer's market communist who stumped against LNG and industrialization of the lands of British Columbia. 1.00
00:06:31.880 Industrialization isn't bad.
00:06:34.280 It allows us to actually afford the things that we need, you know, be able to pay for things, generate energy, you know, build homes.
00:06:41.660 She said that she stumped against logging LNG.
00:06:44.780 She said LNG was worse than coal, which was utterly insane.
00:06:47.940 But the people in the Politburo that is the legacy media in British Columbia love David Eby and Sonia First in those performances because they said left-wing things.
00:06:57.340 And they're so in a bubble.
00:06:58.660 They think that him razzing Rustad and then saying like lefty things in response to Rustad's very like appealing, universally appealing conservative common sense policies was somehow good.
00:07:11.760 It wasn't. 1.00
00:07:12.480 He looked like a jerk because he was a jerk that night. 1.00
00:07:15.520 He was inattentive to the audience. 1.00
00:07:17.620 He wouldn't look the audience in the eye because the camera is basically the audience.
00:07:21.520 He wouldn't look at them.
00:07:22.740 He thought he was he was just smug and superior the entire time.
00:07:26.040 Sonia First to know was sanctimonious, annoying, and nobody knew why she was there. 1.00
00:07:31.220 She thinks for some reason we can run an economy on farmer's market jam.
00:07:35.200 It's just this kind of like like small community type socialism that she offers, whereas David Eby's offering the big city bloated socialism.
00:07:44.560 And then John's there saying, how about we cut your taxes?
00:07:47.780 So that's the setup to me wanting to quickly talk about this article that reads from the Vancouver Sun.
00:07:54.880 I always thought all the Sun newspapers were supposed to be a little bit more to the center right, maybe.
00:08:00.500 But I guess not the Vancouver Sun.
00:08:02.780 And it reads, John Rustad failed to deliver and leaders debate now faces uphill battle.
00:08:08.180 And this is written by Von Palmer.
00:08:10.820 And actually, this article, I don't need to read it out to you.
00:08:13.980 I can just kind of give you the commentary on what happened.
00:08:15.860 My mom sent me this article because she watched the debate, even though she's in Alberta, just to see what what went on.
00:08:22.900 What was the whole the fuss about?
00:08:24.420 She watched it.
00:08:25.320 She thought Rustad was good.
00:08:26.560 Yeah, he's not exactly setting the world on fire.
00:08:29.260 He's not like a Winston Churchill type person in terms of speeches.
00:08:33.700 But he talked about things that you cared about.
00:08:36.140 He seemed reasonable.
00:08:37.420 He seemed professional.
00:08:38.720 David Eby is irritable, you know, like twitchy, jumping around, pointing at people.
00:08:43.820 It was bad.
00:08:44.760 And she said in this article, basically, it's just saying how much David Eby dunked on Rustad.
00:08:50.620 Rustad looks befuddled.
00:08:52.240 Sonia Fersenow was so good.
00:08:54.640 Oh, she's so good.
00:08:56.220 I'm a lefty.
00:08:56.980 And she said something left wing.
00:08:58.280 Oh, she was so good.
00:09:00.140 But if you go down the article later on, halfway through the article, like bottom third of the article, you know, in golf, this is the 15th hole that they start saying that.
00:09:10.260 Well, Rustad had a good moment on that.
00:09:12.040 And he did say this, and Eby didn't have a good response.
00:09:15.140 And he did talk about this and that, and Sonia and David didn't mention it.
00:09:18.800 I'm like, yeah, you talked about things that people liked.
00:09:21.240 So even in the articles where they're trying to slam David, sorry, John Rustad, even then they still had to admit he was doing a good job.
00:09:27.680 And then when you read the comments, there's so many people saying, did you guys watch a different debate than I did?
00:09:33.140 Because I thought John was absolutely fine.
00:09:35.600 And David was annoying to the point where I shut off the debate before it was over because he wouldn't let people talk.
00:09:42.000 And when you're the premier who has a reputation for being high handed and in a leader's debate where you only have to respect three people, the moderator, Sonia and John, and you couldn't do it.
00:09:52.260 You're really playing to the negative stereotype about yourself.
00:09:56.080 And the reason why I'm going back to this is that we, like I was detecting what happened, like I was predicting what was going to happen, we are seeing a polling bump for the BC Conservatives.
00:10:08.580 And it's significant.
00:10:09.440 Second, this is the Main Street tracking poll, which is now showing that with undecideds included, the Conservatives are currently capturing 41% of the electorate, people likely or saying that they're likely to vote, and the NDP is grabbing up 38%.
00:10:24.780 8% still undecided, 3% say another party, which could be they're voting for an independent, and also some people who are saying another party are probably also just undecided.
00:10:34.140 And then Greens at 10.
00:10:36.100 This is very, very good for the BC Conservatives.
00:10:39.440 When you go down to regionals, the Conservatives are getting 40.9% in Vancouver, 36.2% in Vancouver Island, which is perfectly fine.
00:10:47.640 That's where they want to be.
00:10:48.560 That grabs them up three to five seats, very competitive.
00:10:51.700 And then the rest of British Columbia, they're leading the BC NDP by 11 points.
00:10:56.860 The NDP, it's really the only reason that their number is even as high as 33 is in place in ridings like Haida Gwaii.
00:11:04.340 They are predicted to do very well.
00:11:06.100 There's some very safe NDP seats in the rural areas, but then the rest are pretty much just blue.
00:11:11.180 And what we also see, and I want to go down to this because I always find this a fascinating statistic.
00:11:16.140 I'm just going to remove this from on screen.
00:11:17.640 It actually slows down the scrolling.
00:11:19.060 Oh, my goodness.
00:11:19.740 But this is always the statistic I find interesting, is how people in 2020 voted and how are they going to vote this next time.
00:11:29.500 Still, we see this not recovering at all.
00:11:32.640 This specific statistic right there.
00:11:34.420 People who voted for John Horrigan in the 2020 provincial election, only 68.4% of them are planning on voting for David Eby's BC NDP.
00:11:45.280 And 16.9% are voting for the Conservatives.
00:11:48.840 And you have another 7.5% leaving for the Greens.
00:11:51.660 And I don't doubt that actually the people leaving for the Greens, they're really just people who are in denial that NDP policies failed.
00:11:59.960 And they want to say, well, it's the NDP weren't hardcore enough.
00:12:02.600 That's why they failed.
00:12:04.180 The NDP and the Greens basically have the exact same platform.
00:12:07.560 Anyways, then we see Liberals.
00:12:09.440 The Conservatives, even though they are not the Liberal Party, yes, they basically absorbed most of the Liberals' appeal.
00:12:16.320 It's still not the same party and people aren't used to voting for the Conservatives.
00:12:21.020 They still win more of the Liberals' 2020 vote than the NDP wins their own 2020 vote. 0.97
00:12:28.480 That's absolutely pathetic.
00:12:30.640 And then when we go to the Greens, the Conservatives are even grabbing up 19.6%. 0.96
00:12:35.160 Because I guarantee you there's a lot of people who just want the Conservatives in because they hate the current government.
00:12:41.440 They just want whoever the current guys are in and out.
00:12:44.180 Another party, actually, this would technically include BC Conservative voters from 2020 because it was a minor party back then.
00:12:50.700 They're capturing 79% of people who vote for another party in 2020.
00:12:54.740 That also include the Christian Heritage Party and other small regional parties.
00:12:58.620 And then don't remember didn't vote, which obviously is mostly just going to be people who didn't vote.
00:13:03.740 There's not that many people can't remember who they voted for.
00:13:06.880 The Conservatives are grabbing up half.
00:13:09.300 50.8% are going Conservative.
00:13:11.700 And that's what the undecided included, who are the second place.
00:13:15.120 People who are undecided are the second biggest category in didn't vote.
00:13:19.320 The NDP are grabbing up triflingly small bits of the didn't vote category.
00:13:24.460 Right now in British Columbia, we are in a change election.
00:13:28.000 And as much as the NDP wants this to be a referendum on the character of John Restad or some of his candidates, because don't you know they said something 10 years ago, even though the NDP is the party that kicked out a Jewish cabinet minister or pressured her out of their party and cabinet because she didn't hate Israel.
00:13:44.980 Even though they actually have legitimate hate problems they do not deal with at all, they're going to try and cast versions at the Conservatives.
00:13:52.320 And this is not going to change the trajectory of the election.
00:13:56.240 The election is, it's basically a referendum.
00:13:59.360 Do you like David Eby and his government?
00:14:01.380 And do you think they're actually going to do a better job in the next four years, or do you not?
00:14:05.640 That is actually the only question in this election.
00:14:08.700 People can try and make it about a bunch of other esoteric reasons or specific policies where maybe the NDP will look a little bit better because they're willing to put more money towards a certain project that doesn't matter that much in the grand scheme of the health of the province.
00:14:22.480 It's just, do you think they're doing a good job or not?
00:14:25.460 They can't short circuit this election.
00:14:28.540 And that's where I think that the Conservatives, even in this poll, where they're leading the NDP by more than 3%, it's a little bit less than 4%, but you get my point.
00:14:37.300 Now, they are going to win, not just because they're, they're not going to win by 3%.
00:14:42.360 I guarantee, unless there is a turnout collapse and just something goes wrong, wasn't good enough GOTV, although I think that that's going fine for the Conservatives.
00:14:51.900 Because I'm not directly involved in HQ for that party, or I don't talk to people on a daily basis.
00:14:57.500 But what's going on right now that's going to help is that there's no reason to show up and vote if you voted NDP last time, but you don't like the Conservatives.
00:15:05.820 Not liking the Conservatives isn't enough of a reason to show up and vote.
00:15:09.560 And that's why David Eby failed so hard on the stage.
00:15:12.140 He gave you no reason to think that he could be any different than the NDP over the last seven years.
00:15:16.340 He's only been Premier for two years, and I agree he is the worst possible person to be a leader, but he hasn't even been doing the Kamala Harris thing in the U.S. of pretending that he's a fresh face. 0.99
00:15:27.500 No, he just pretends that his record's actually good, you're just too stupid to notice it, which is not a great pitch to voters. 0.92
00:15:33.200 Whereas John, when he's on stage identifying problems, yes, he's not speaking with the passion of Caesar taking power in Rome or something like that. 0.97
00:15:44.180 But what the man's doing, or whatever the speech after Julius Caesar was stabbed to death, his famous, very fiery speeches.
00:15:51.580 But the thing is, he's telling you about problems that you identify yourself on the street, and because he's doing that, you trust him.
00:15:59.000 And Eby and First Ino refused to acknowledge problems.
00:16:03.140 Every time they started talking, Rust had started trying to talk about real issues, or the moderator would bring it up.
00:16:09.080 First Ino would try and talk about climate change, and then Eby would try and talk about how the Conservatives are bad.
00:16:14.180 It's not a winning narrative. 0.99
00:16:16.440 It's a losing narrative, because you are running on the idea that we suck, but the other guys could suck more. 0.99
00:16:22.140 And we are at currently the bottom of the barrel. 0.99
00:16:24.760 No doubt the Conservatives are going to be 100 times better than the NDP.
00:16:27.600 But there's also zero chance they could be worse, even if they were only a little bit better.
00:16:31.960 They're still better than you guys, and I doubt it's going to be just a little bit better.
00:16:37.140 Anyways, that's pretty much it for me today.
00:16:39.900 I think in the last 10 days, it's just going to turn out to get the vote type campaign for both of the parties, the major parties.
00:16:47.940 But I think what's actually going to end up happening is if the NDP start going too negative in these last 10 days, which I guarantee they will,
00:16:54.640 they're just going to turn out even more Conservative voters, because it's going to become that screw you reaction,
00:17:00.660 stop telling me I'm not allowed to vote for these people, because you guys are the ones who failed.
00:17:05.240 You guys are the ones who can't deliver health care.
00:17:07.780 You guys are the ones who ruined the economy.
00:17:09.640 You guys are the ones who are making me pay more tax dollars to hire more public employees who are doing less work.
00:17:15.400 So, we're done here, and that's basically, I think, the attitude of most BC voters.
00:17:20.580 I talked to, I was in for a story.
00:17:23.740 It was a certain community in the riding of Port Moody, Burquitlam.
00:17:27.560 This is a riding that the NDP in 2020 won with like 56% of the vote.
00:17:32.120 I was in, in fact, one of the heaviest NDP polling districts in that riding.
00:17:37.840 And when I was going around house to house, I talked to people who were voting Conservative.
00:17:41.620 Also, by the way, a couple of you day to day stopped me and said they watched the show.
00:17:45.400 Good on you guys.
00:17:46.520 But I was in this one area where every single person told me, okay, yeah, I really don't like the NDP,
00:17:52.460 and I'm probably voting Conservative, you know.
00:17:54.460 But then they would look at me and say, just letting you know, there's a lot of NDP people around this area.
00:17:59.140 I'm not sure if you're wasting your time being here.
00:18:01.940 There's a lot of people who are probably going to vote NDP,
00:18:03.920 because they voted NDP the last seven elections like I used to.
00:18:07.820 They'd even usually point to a specific house and say, I'm pretty sure they're really NDP.
00:18:12.440 They weren't saying that the person's rude.
00:18:13.720 They're just thinking that that person's part is an NDP.
00:18:15.780 Don't waste your time.
00:18:16.940 I would go to that person's door right across the street.
00:18:20.600 And then that person would say, you know, I voted NDP the last seven elections.
00:18:24.900 I'm voting Conservative this time, but I'm not sure what these other people are.
00:18:27.580 There are so many silent Conservative flip voters out there.
00:18:31.300 It's insane.
00:18:32.040 This is a poll district that went 73% NDP around that point in 2020.
00:18:39.820 Currently, based on my estimates of the area, it's 50-50 and the Conservatives might have the edge.
00:18:45.160 And I'm considering it 50-50 because some of the no's that I get at the doors could be Green voters.
00:18:50.280 It is bad out there to be an NDP door knocker.
00:18:53.940 Because think about it.
00:18:55.000 Even if there are people out there that might like you, the people who don't like you really don't like you.
00:18:59.540 Whereas with the Conservatives, all you really bump into is people who are like pathologically anti-Conservative.
00:19:05.320 They can't tell you why.
00:19:06.440 It's like the guy I told you guys about at the door the other day where he opens the door.
00:19:10.000 Or maybe I didn't tell you guys this story.
00:19:11.460 So here's another story.
00:19:12.800 I had this guy who opened the door and he's like, oh, Conservatives, blah, blah.
00:19:16.180 I'm not voting for you guys. 0.91
00:19:17.580 I hate your leader.
00:19:18.800 And I just said, smile on my face. 0.92
00:19:20.420 I'm not fake at the doors.
00:19:21.420 I'm pretty nice to people.
00:19:23.460 I'm not smiling in space in an obnoxious way.
00:19:26.220 I was just like, oh, well, why don't you like about him?
00:19:28.560 I do a commentary channel.
00:19:29.940 So I'm always curious about what people like and dislike about different politicians.
00:19:33.500 And he says, well, I don't have to tell you why I don't like him.
00:19:36.960 And I was like, you don't have to.
00:19:38.140 But I'm just asking why you don't like him.
00:19:40.400 It's just out of curiosity.
00:19:42.040 I just like to know people's strengths, weaknesses, stuff like that.
00:19:45.600 Well, you know, like I don't have to.
00:19:48.060 And he would just keep repeating.
00:19:48.940 I don't have to answer you.
00:19:49.700 At one point, he says, well, are you going to pay me for my opinion, for my information?
00:19:52.660 I'm like, no, you can close the door right now.
00:19:54.920 I'm just wondering, why do you hate a guy?
00:19:56.860 Because if I hate a guy, I could usually name a reason.
00:20:00.340 And he couldn't do it.
00:20:01.260 And he got like really mad at me.
00:20:03.040 Every once in a while, you got to have a door interaction like that where somebody,
00:20:06.280 frankly, is just being like stridently jerky to you as some random guy who walked up their door.
00:20:11.920 And you just kind of press their buttons very politely.
00:20:14.980 And then they just go off because, you know, they don't, they frankly don't have a reason
00:20:19.600 for holding the opinions they do.
00:20:21.580 The guy owns his home.
00:20:22.800 He's doing well.
00:20:23.540 So he's able to have, frankly, obtuse opinions about politics,
00:20:27.440 even though they just don't line up with reality.
00:20:29.600 But he wants to feel, you know, emboldened in his liberalism that, oh, you're a bad person 0.96
00:20:34.940 and I'm a good person and I hate your leader. 0.89
00:20:37.120 But why do you hate him?
00:20:37.980 Well, I don't have to tell you that.
00:20:39.580 Was it a secret? 0.96
00:20:40.480 What the heck?
00:20:41.240 Were you guys part of the Eagles together or something like that?
00:20:43.640 And there's like a big falling out.
00:20:44.820 You can't talk about it because of NDAs.
00:20:46.520 What the heck?
00:20:48.140 Anyways, that's truly the end of this show.
00:20:51.200 Again, like, share, subscribe, do all that stuff.
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00:20:58.140 and pinned at the top of the comments.
00:21:00.000 It's the Give, Send, Go link.
00:21:01.540 We have a billionaire developer from China suing us for no reason for defamation.
00:21:06.420 And in over two and a half years, almost three years, he still hasn't submitted any evidence
00:21:11.780 to prove his case.
00:21:13.040 He's just simply suing us for the sake of it because he didn't like that we cited reporting
00:21:18.040 about him from like a year and a half ago.
00:21:19.480 And he was too scared to sue those people.
00:21:20.760 So he sued me at the time, and I was only 22, assuming he'd get a quick, easy, you know,
00:21:26.640 apology.
00:21:27.500 And then he could pretend that anything ever, anyone ever said about the guy was wrong by,
00:21:32.020 you know, just bullying the 17,000th person to say something true about him.
00:21:36.300 Regardless, see you guys later.
00:21:38.360 Thanks for watching the show.