00:00:00.000Ahoy everyone, Wyatt Claypool here back again to finally talk about some more Canadian polls.
00:00:06.720Today we will be talking about the province of British Columbia, where we are seeing some very
00:00:12.080interesting movement in the polls, and I also want to talk about the BC Conservative leadership
00:00:18.040race, especially Caroline Elliott's campaign, because I want to warn you all, if you have seen
00:00:24.880Caroline Elliott out there and you are a little bit intrigued by the things she has been saying,
00:00:29.380She is another Doug Ford. She is another Aaron O'Toole. In fact, her campaign literally shares
00:00:36.460some of the team members who created Doug Ford and Aaron O'Toole as fake conservatives.
00:00:42.000We will be getting to that later in this video, but we will be first starting off with some great
00:00:47.980polling numbers that make 1BC look quite good, and I am always one to highlight numbers that
00:00:54.380show us on the rise. And I'm not just cherry picking here. I am finding the polls that
00:00:59.180actually bother including us, or at least demonstrate that we have a lot of power in
00:01:04.060the polls. There are other pollsters out there who deliberately don't even mention us. And I think
00:01:08.860that it's probably a leadership campaign or the Conservative Party themselves paying these
00:01:13.480pollsters to try and make themselves look really big while trying to downplay that there is any
00:01:18.620serious appetite for a third party. But before we get into the numbers today, I just want to remind
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00:01:46.200more sustainable for me. And if you live in British Columbia, full disclosure, I work for
00:01:52.280the 1BC party with Dallas Brody. I basically make nothing doing it, but you know, you always have to
00:01:58.940mention that fact. If you live in BC, check out the 1BC website and consider becoming a member.
00:02:04.840It's 20 bucks that is tax deductible or make a donation because we are on the rise and this is
00:02:11.420a real movement that money will actually help grow, not some random small party that pops up,
00:02:16.760collects a bunch of money, and then disappears later. As you will see in the numbers, we are
00:02:21.280having massive amounts of growth right now, and it's only a matter of time before a BC conservative
00:02:27.080MLA who's actually conservative is going to get wise and realize that they are going to do better
00:02:32.200things for their careers, joining us actually getting to be conservative and being able to
00:02:37.180easily win re-election. But now, without further ado, we are going to get into two polls I want
00:02:43.040to highlight here. One is from Hamish Marshall's firm, and the other is from Main Street Research.
00:02:49.320Now, Hamish Marshall's firm actually names 1BC, and Main Street does not. But oddly enough,
00:02:56.940Main Street is the poll I want to talk about more here, but we will be saving that to being the
00:03:02.500second poll we're going to talk about, I'm just going to go over the numbers for you here on
00:03:06.840Hamish Marshall's poll to show the general landscape of BC politics right now. I always
00:03:13.000use the color red, not for any particular reason, or maybe I am using it for particular reasons,
00:03:19.220but right now in BC polls, Hamish Marshall has the BC Conservatives currently leading a couple
00:03:26.180points over the NDP with 41 percent. I'll write down, I guess, C for conservative down here
00:03:35.480or up here. It'll be easier. So conservatives are currently at 41 percent in this Hamish Marshall
00:03:42.380poll, followed by the NDP currently sitting at 37 percent. So the conservatives are leading by
00:03:50.700four points in this poll. That is then followed, of course, by the Green Party of British Columbia,
00:03:57.880and they are at 11 points. I actually see them probably rising further from here because
00:04:03.780the Green Party only got, I think, 8% in this last election, and they still pulled off winning
00:04:08.660two seats, that being Rob Botterell in Saanich North and the Islands, and then Jeremy Valeriat,
00:04:14.460who's, I think, in North Vancouver, you know, Sea to Sky or something like that. I'm probably
00:04:20.000getting it wrong, but he's one of those ridings above Vancouver. They still won like two seats
00:04:25.500on only 8% in the polls. And I think that they're probably going to be going back in this next
00:04:31.180election because of the aggressiveness of their current leader, Emily Lohan, to being around that
00:04:35.88016 to 20% they were usually at in previous elections with Sonia first and now back when
00:04:41.560she was actually a fresh leader or Andrew Weaver. So I think you're going to see the NDP starting to
00:04:47.620fall into the mid-30s over time. And there's always been this political myth that the NDP
00:04:54.000is always at 40% or above. That's why there can be no vote splitting at all. Vote splitting is a
00:04:59.980complete myth. I'm going to get to that a little bit later. But I think with so many policy failures
00:05:04.460with the NDP government right now and the rise of the Greens, you will be seeing them fall into the
00:05:10.600mid-30s and then we are followed with the NDP in this poll are followed by 1BC who are currently
00:05:18.680at we are currently at 6% but what I find interesting in this poll is followed behind
00:05:25.700them sold to give scope ndp here we have green and we have one we also have at five percent other
00:05:42.180and the thing is with when you have sorry i wrote that wrong we have five percent and we have other
00:05:49.300now the problem is there's no really why am i throwing stuff guys my goodness why it's out of
00:05:57.620out of practice i feel like i'm a teacher like a teacher who's been off for the summer finally
00:06:02.420coming back to the classroom and i don't even know where things are anymore in the room it's nice to
00:06:07.380be back in the regular studio not sitting in a hotel room that always kind of sucked for me
00:06:11.280but five percent other probably just means people who like one bc leader dallas brody and they
00:06:18.300forgot what the party's name was because 1BC still hasn't existed for an entire year. In the
00:06:24.200public eye, we've probably only existed for about six months or even four months because just because
00:06:29.620the party was registered back in June doesn't mean that a bunch of people knew who we were back in
00:06:34.360June. Probably by December or January or February, it's really the first time that people have heard
00:06:40.680about us in a substantial enough way that they actually kind of put it to their memory that
00:06:45.720there is this party out there called 1BC. So when I see other at 5, it's not center BC. Center BC,
00:06:52.480when they've been named in a poll, has been at less than a 1% or 1%. Other is probably at least,
00:06:59.020at least two points going towards 1BC, which would probably put 1BC at about eight or nine points.
00:07:06.420This poll also, I believe, had, yeah, that was about it. This is 1,000 people polled, by the way.
00:07:11.400A thousand people is not shabby at all. A thousand people are giving you a pretty good sample size.
00:07:17.720There's not a big margin of error. The only error that could be here is simply that other is
00:07:23.580representing people who like Brody, they forget what her party's name is. And that's something
00:07:28.340that will sort itself out over time. Like if there was an election, and I can guarantee you,
00:07:32.900there's not an election until 2028. The NDP don't want an election. The Greens don't want an election.
00:07:37.980The Conservatives don't want an election. Frankly, we don't want an election either because we want to get more up to speed. In an election period, you're going to convert a lot of the people confused about the branding over to your party. So over time, you're going to have other moving in to the 1BC camp. Because you couldn't say other is trying to vote for the Conservatives or the NDP or the Greens. They're well-known parties. People know what they're all about. People aren't confused about what party does Trevor Halford and the Conservatives represent?
00:08:07.340all the conservatives it's just not how it works and so it's not center bc because every time
00:08:13.400they've pulled center bc since they first launched back in april and watch you talk with them later
00:08:17.920in this video they've really not gone anywhere but this new poll kind of proves my point here
00:08:24.180so we have main street research who put out a poll that was just uh you know they pulled their
00:08:29.920usual thing they pull people with undecideds and leaning voters added in then they take out the
00:08:35.520leaning voters, and they reallocate their votes towards the parties they're leaning towards,
00:08:39.500and then they also show what the results are when they completely remove the decided voters.
00:08:45.020Now, I just want to show you that final poll, the poll where they boil everything down to those
00:08:50.320who are decided with the leaning voters added into the party that they're slightly leaning towards.
00:08:56.140Right now, this is how they have the current polls. So we have here the NDP leading very mildly
00:09:04.240with 39% of the vote, still not even cracking that 40%, which everyone says the NDP cannot be
00:09:13.360pushed below. That's a complete myth. People always tell themselves election myths to make
00:09:18.660themselves feel better. So you got all these people from the conservative saying, you can't
00:09:22.600start the 1BC party because the NDP is always at 40%. And unless you're united, they're going to
00:09:27.420win. By the way, it doesn't even matter if you're united or not. The conservative party,
00:09:32.320when uniting around the wrong things does not mean you're going to win an election. If anything,
00:09:37.000it means you're going to lose harder. You even had the conservatives united in 2024 and they lost.
00:09:42.780They lost. They had the BC United Party roll into the conservatives and they still lost because it
00:09:48.180turns out they weren't standing up for the right things. They said many of the right things, but
00:09:53.120they ran a poor campaign. They tried to appeal to voters who did not want them and they put all
00:09:58.220their resources in the ridings that they thought they would win in and then neglected the ones
00:10:02.180they should have been running in and since then the party's gotten more liberal over time and
00:10:06.740people like caroline elliott want to become more liberal that's where we're going to be talking
00:10:10.660about center bc later she wants center bc added back into the party which is run by a former bc
00:10:15.700united uh mla heron kirkpatrick but then in this bowl we have the conservative party at 37 percent
00:10:26.180So this is a very divided field as you are seeing because most provinces are effectively
00:10:33.560two-party provinces. Ontario is a little bit less so, but it's really the PC party and anyone but
00:10:39.700the PC party because all the parties in Ontario are pretty much the same thing. So these are the
00:10:46.000Conservatives at 37%, 2% lead for the Conservatives or 2% lead for the NDP. And then this poll
00:10:54.760suspiciously even though it does not add in the one bc party has other another party specifically
00:11:03.720is the way that they present it other is at 13 and then the green party is at 12 now do you
00:11:14.780seriously think that there are people voting other in this poll who don't mean one bc
00:11:21.660now i don't know if this was a paid for sponsored poll and by the way paid for sponsored poll
00:11:27.940does not actually mean it's like a rigged poll that doesn't mean that they're not doing good
00:11:32.360methodologies but suspiciously this poll showed that peter millibar was like leading as the best
00:11:38.160conservative candidate to beat the ndp apparently again maybe he sponsored the poll maybe he did
00:11:43.300not that doesn't mean it's shoddy work it just means that maybe they said don't label 1bc in
00:11:48.300the poll because i don't want them that way it doesn't mean that like they're you know just
00:11:51.760making up numbers they're going to run the poll the way that they're going to run the poll
00:11:54.840do we seriously think that this is not mostly one bc people center bc doesn't exist they're
00:12:03.380currently having internal turmoil they don't have an mla and have you if you've ever seen their
00:12:07.860events their events maybe bring out i'm not even kidding like 10 people they are like almost two
00:12:15.200thirds of a Caroline Elliott event because Caroline Elliott, despite the fact that she's
00:12:19.040apparently raised half a million dollars, cannot attract flies and Centre BC attracts about half
00:12:24.080the flies that Caroline Elliott ends up bringing out. So we have 12% of at the Greens. I am going
00:12:32.000to say that this is probably at the very least 80% up to 100% 1 BC voters.
00:12:45.200because who else is it the libertarian party that can't put out more than seven or eight
00:12:52.260candidates in election center bc which is currently having its membership fight the
00:12:57.140leader because they hate her guts and there's probably less than 100 members
00:12:59.940what it couldn't be anyone but us even if it was just 80 this would mean that there are 10.4
00:13:08.840percent people in this poll who wanted to select 1bc but were denied the ability to do it maybe
00:13:15.320this was 1bc and they just relabeled it another party i don't know exactly but i do know that
00:13:22.360based on our growth factors 13 is very realistic i'm not sure if you have seen our events around
00:13:29.480the province but we at a drop of a hat within a week of organizing or a week or two we can get
00:13:35.640out just like hundreds of people a hundred 250 people in sorrento bc 170 people in creston and
00:13:44.360it could have been more if we could have gotten a bigger venue but we hit fire code and that was it
00:13:48.360at every event we basically have to turn people away i even just want to go to our social media
00:13:53.480just so i can show you on lasquiti island population 480 in the middle of an afternoon
00:14:00.520i'm gonna bring this up here in the middle of an afternoon when there's a lot of guys on the
00:14:05.640mainland for where their jobs are or guys around the island handymen doing their own stuff we had
00:14:11.96070 people show up now max in the room at one time there's probably about 55 to 60 people because
00:14:18.440then you got some working class guys uh who are like doing handymen work around the island who
00:14:22.760came by a little bit later and they'd hang out for 30 minutes ask a question then they had to
00:14:26.680move on back to their jobs, but we had around 70 people visit. Caroline Elliott, the leading
00:14:33.320BC Conservative candidate apparently, gets 50 people to show up to see her in Vancouver.
00:14:39.240In her home turf, I think she maybe got 70 to 90 people in North Vancouver. Like what?
00:14:46.920This lady who apparently has half a million dollars and is this new right darling,
00:14:52.920apparently according to all the front groups that she set up like without diminishment
00:14:57.480she can only get she's this new right darling cannot even crack 100 people in a room i've been
00:15:02.920to one of her events in victoria i think there was maybe 40 people there and half of them were
00:15:07.480legislature legislature staff probably there for free food like yes one bc definitely does have
00:15:14.200legs and at the end of the day if you can't attract volunteers you cannot win an election
00:15:20.600the bc conservatives could have won in 2024 they basically ran the worst campaign you could
00:15:25.400possibly think of it was like kamala harris in 2024 against trump trump won not just because he
00:15:32.040had the better message and because people were really sick of biden and harris that's because
00:15:36.840kamala harris spent like half of her campaign money on staff and that's what happened to bc
00:15:42.920conservatives if you donate to these people they are spending so much of the money on really
00:15:48.440expensive downtown real estate for their headquarters and bonuses for their executive
00:15:54.300employees. Their executives are making like $150,000 a year and you don't really know what
00:16:00.580they're even doing. These are pretty mild jobs in the sense that the executive director of a
00:16:05.520political party is not grinding it out every single day on party matters. They're mostly
00:16:10.660sitting around and then just dealing with things as they pop up. You could have another job and be
00:16:15.680executive director of the party between elections nothing's really happening but there are like a
00:16:21.040dozen paid employees of the bc conservative party all making substantial salaries plus they spend
00:16:27.040on just the dumbest things i've ever seen so if you don't donate a hundred dollars know that at
00:16:31.840least fifty percent of it's like being burned on nothing with 1bc we have taken in a lot of
00:16:36.800donations and our donations are starting to rise fast and all of it is spent on metrics of growth
00:16:42.720it is spent on social media to increase the size of us on social media get the name recognition up
00:16:47.680it is spent on physical resources it is spent on merchandise that we just sell back at cost so that
00:16:52.640it's basically just a zero dollar kind of affair and it's spent on trying to set up local organizing
00:16:58.320committees and getting people up to speed on as being volunteers it's all based on actually
00:17:04.080winning and that's the funny thing with the conservatives they constantly say like oh if
00:17:07.680you join with them then we can't win you guys aren't even trying to win you guys aren't even
00:17:11.520trying to be conservative anymore frankly so i don't even know what i'm supposed to care why
00:17:14.960i'm supposed to care but anyways with that all being said i want to now move on to the bc
00:17:20.800conservative leadership race and talk a little bit about it so i think i'm going to erase the
00:17:26.560board i'm going to erase the board and then we'll come back in a second but i guess to finish up on
00:17:30.480this if one bc is at 13 like the main street poll is indicating that means in just a few months since
00:17:36.960december because they did name us in their poll in december we were at about eight percent with
00:17:40.720decided voters we have gained five percent in just two and a half months with one mla mind you
00:17:47.920because the legislature doesn't really matter me and dallas go sit in the rose garden at the
00:17:52.720legislature we go and film uh videos out on the legislature steps or just other places in victoria
00:17:59.200and it's getting so many more media hits than every single bc conservative mlas videos combined
00:18:05.920because these people are strategically inept, or they're good conservative MLAs who are just not
00:18:11.500allowed to say anything. We've heard the stories. It's an absolute nightmare to be a BC conservative
00:18:16.900MLA if you actually want to be conservative. The entire party inside the legislature is being run
00:18:22.580by like Peter Millibar and Alia Warbus and a couple other very liberal MLAs who pretty much
00:18:28.380give 80% of all the QP questions, question period questions, to the most liberal MLAs and people
00:18:34.280specifically who are endorsing Peter Millibar, oddly enough. You know, that's not corrupt at
00:18:38.820all. But now I want to erase the board, write down the candidates' names, and we can kind of
00:18:42.980go through what's been happening here. So I'll be back in just a second. And we're back. So I want
00:18:49.620to go over those who were in the race, those who are no longer in the race, and who is endorsing
00:18:55.960who, before I get to talking about Caroline Elliott and her extremely fake conservative
00:19:01.040campaign. So we had like, I think like eight, like 15 candidates, 12 candidates or something
00:19:07.600like that back 30 days ago before I went to Victoria. Even John Rustad was thinking about
00:19:12.780running back then. But since then, a bunch of people have been exiting the race. But first,
00:19:18.100I just want to talk about all their names because I just have last names up here. So we have
00:19:21.140Caroline Elliott. We had Bruce Bandman, KLF, who is Carrie Lynn Finley, Warren Hamm, Harmon Bangu,
00:19:28.500yuri fulmer daryl jones sheldon claire and steve cooner now there's some other names who are no
00:19:34.960longer on here because they either didn't end up entering the race or they ended up dropping out
00:19:40.220and i'm just like there must have been someone who like fell off the wagon like months ago and
00:19:44.400i forgot about it but anyways these are the ones i can remember and if there is still one in the
00:19:48.240race that i'm forgetting about tough luck that's just how it works you've probably not been relevant
00:19:53.820enough for me to remember you. So people who have left so far, we have had Hooner and Claire
00:20:01.740did not qualify to get in the race. So they are gone. We had Warren Ham. He is still in the race.
00:20:09.340I'm not sure if he's going to be able to remain in the race. He is more of a grassroots conservative
00:20:13.060guy, but I just don't think he's going to be able to pull together all the money to get in the race.
00:20:17.360I'm not sure if he's paid the $20,000 deposit yet, but he's still in. We have Bruce Bandman.
00:20:23.420I'll write them on the left side here. Bruce Bandman is out and we have Bangu out. So right
00:20:30.000now the remaining candidates are Elliott, KLF, Ham, Palmer, and Jones. And so after some of these
00:20:38.360people dropped out, we had Steve Cooner endorsing KLF, Carrie Lynn Finley. We had Bangu endorsing
00:20:47.320Elliott, and we had Bandman endorsing Ballmer. It's been very divided, although people are
00:20:54.740trying to claim there's some big consolidation behind Caroline Elliott. Her only caucus
00:21:00.440endorsement so far is Carmen Bangu. I know we're probably going to see somebody like Brian Tepper
00:21:07.140eventually endorse her as well, but it's a very divided field still. Oh, I forgot. He is kind of
00:21:14.600a real candidate we also have ian black i am so sorry ian you are almost too irrelevant to talk
00:21:21.060about so this is what everything is boiling down to i'm just immediately going to put an x beside
00:21:27.620warren ham i just don't see him actually winning this race i've heard his membership sales have
00:21:33.560not been that bad but if he can't raise the money you can't get into the race but he could be
00:21:37.580a good endorsement for somebody seeing as i've heard he has some good signups around certain
00:21:42.940interior ridings that didn't have a lot of members in them in the first place and in this race what
00:21:48.180you are going to have is that you don't just win by getting a lot of votes you get you win by
00:21:52.860getting votes in the right ridings because it's going to be a point system every riding is worth
00:21:57.600100 points and so if you win 40 percent of the votes in one of the ridings you get 40 points
00:22:03.840and so you know it works that way and if you become the least well-performing candidate and
00:22:09.300nobody has reached 50% plus one of the votes yet, then you get eliminated, and your second votes
00:22:14.920get distributed onto somebody else, and so on and so forth. So in this race right now, I would say
00:22:22.880you have the sort of conservative side of the party fighting the old BC liberals. Old BC liberals
00:22:29.760include Ian Black, who was a BC liberal minister under Christy Clark for like three years, which
00:22:35.360honestly not that long you have i would say caroline elliott is one of the bc liberals
00:22:41.320in the race and then sort of conservatives or kind of hard to tell i would say falmer gets a
00:22:50.380sort of hard to tell small c caroline elliott or it's kale last right uh carrie lynn finley
00:22:58.000gets a c generally kind of more conservative daryl jones i would just put a line next to him
00:23:03.880kind of indecisive maybe more conservative just simply because he is a businessman former ceo and
00:23:09.640spokesperson for save on foods it's kind of an obvious one um and anyone else in the race
00:23:15.740assuming ham's out this is kind of how it is there's three two people more on the right
00:23:21.420like the center right you have daryl jones probably you know mildly center right and then
00:23:27.660you have Elliott and Black as more liberal. Heck, Caroline Elliott was literally the VP
00:23:34.300of the BC Liberals and was even the one who had the great idea of saving the party by changing
00:23:40.400the name to BC United. That was her contribution to trying to keep that party afloat. Not let's
00:23:45.780make this party actually more conservative so we stop ticking off the more right of center people
00:23:51.020in our big tent coalition. No, we just need to change the branding and make it a little bit
00:23:56.880darker blue because red was offending all the conservatives. So let's change the logo and
00:24:02.100incorporate more blue colors. That was genuinely the idea there. That's the funny thing. Is anyone
00:24:08.100going to revisit the fact that Caroline Elliott, who's a supposedly some figure of the new right
00:24:13.060now, was her job day to day back in 2023 and 2024 and even before that in 22 was to make sure the
00:24:20.840conservatives failed to gain traction. That was her day job, trying to hurt the BC conservatives
00:24:26.360and trying to keep peace united around and here's a great example of just how i would say bad her
00:24:33.960political instincts are this is an article that caroline elliott wrote back in april of 2025
00:24:42.680less than a year ago she wrote here the only only the ndp will benefit from the new center bc party
00:24:50.600and she is attacking center bc for i guess assisting the ndp by splitting the right
00:24:56.520caroline elliott thinking that center bc is on the right is the most caroline elliott opinion i've
00:25:03.820ever heard in my life and she goes on and talks about how every time the right is split the ndp
00:25:08.620ends up winning which again isn't really true whenever the bc liberals sucked or whenever the
00:25:14.620Social Credit Party collapsed, the NDP would win. But trying to act like simply it's just the
00:25:21.060electoral math that's the problem. No, it's that the BCU Liberal Party sucked. That's why Christy
00:25:27.940Clark lost. It's not because the right was divided, because Christy Clark sucked. You know why
00:25:33.820Andrew Wilkinson lost? You know why Kevin Falcon collapsed? You know why John Rustad failed to get
00:25:40.600across the finish line in 24? Because they weren't that good. That's why. Do you know why
00:25:46.460Dallas Brody and 1BC are between potentially 8 to 13%? Because they're doing a good job. We are
00:25:53.620doing a good job. We are talking about the issues people care about, and we have good answers on
00:25:58.740those issues. I don't know why I have to explain this to Caroline Elliott, but she is someone who
00:26:03.420genuinely would seek the approval of Karen Kirkpatrick and Center BC, which, mind you,
00:26:10.540is literally all federal liberals pretty much. Outside of maybe 10% of their supporters that
00:26:16.280might be federal conservative voters, which I even doubt that, they're federal liberals,
00:26:21.360and she considers them part of the right. Caroline Elliott has been doing a lot of work
00:26:26.720to pretend that she has a conservative record retroactively. She's been going around and saying,
00:26:31.680well, I was one of the first people speaking about all these land issues with First Nations years
00:26:36.700ago. No, she wasn't. This is something she started seriously talking about in the last year. And it's
00:26:42.940obvious she was only talking about in the last year that she was planning on trying to run for
00:26:46.780the BC Conservative leadership once John Rustad inevitably collapsed and they had the leadership
00:26:52.000race get triggered. Previously, yeah, she talked about it. But if you read her old articles in the
00:26:58.560hub and other outlets she has this kind of nervous upper middle class way of talking about the issues
00:27:04.320oh she doesn't like that first nations are going to be able to close down joffrey lakes park
00:27:09.540oh it's i don't like these land claims they're i don't they're they're divisive this isn't good
00:27:16.240for the province but outside of this very nervous these nervous noises she's making about it she's
00:27:21.260not actually taking a stance saying no this reconciliation grift has to end we need to
00:27:26.020repeal DRIPA. We need to do all these things. She was the BC United vice president. Why didn't she
00:27:30.920run on getting rid of DRIPA at the time? Her brother-in-law, Kevin Falkman, was the leader.
00:27:36.680Now, she can say, well, I didn't want to disagree with my brother-in-law, and so I didn't say
00:27:40.160anything about it at the time. That just proves you're really weak. And really, I think the true
00:27:44.740answer is that she doesn't actually care about getting rid of DRIPA. She only says that now
00:27:48.940because you kind of have to say it to be somewhat politically relevant in this province right now.
00:28:12.860He's actually racking up the most endorsements out of caucus right now,
00:28:15.960which demonstrates how liberal the whole caucus is.
00:28:18.260His idea for DRIPA is repealing it and replacing it with the Reconciliation Act.
00:28:23.380which is extremely dumb. Like why replace something that's stupid with something in theory less
00:28:29.680stupid? We don't even know if his idea would be less bad than DRIPA. And that probably goes for
00:28:34.360most of the candidates that they're still dedicated to this whole reconciliation narrative
00:28:39.000that, well, it's called reconciliation. So we can't oppose it. It's reconciliation. You have
00:28:45.180to be in favor of it because it sounds nice. No, you don't. Reconciliation has not been good
00:28:50.380for non-Indigenous British Columbians, and it hasn't been good for Indigenous British Columbians.
00:28:55.640It's unfair, and it needs to go. And Elliot has never actually just flat out said we need to
00:29:00.640repeal it and not replace it with anything. It's always this kind of hedging where when she has
00:29:05.000called for Drippa to be repealed, it's because other people were already doing it well before
00:29:09.300her. She kind of does this routine where she acts like diet Dallas Brody, and then hopes that nobody
00:29:15.060just wonders why she won't actually say the exact same thing that Dallas does. And it's because she's
00:29:19.660hedging. And I need to show you some other stuff as well. She's just not conservative. She was a
00:29:25.380spokesperson for the BC United Party back or BC Liberal Party back in 2020. And she attacked one
00:29:32.640of their own candidates for saying socially conservative things. Here is a clip from a news
00:29:38.520station back during that 2020 election where John Horgan ended up just absolutely cleaning the
00:29:44.360clocks of the Liberals. They did have a problem with two candidates in particular and LGBTQ views.
00:29:50.920Do you think it's a problem that Andrew Wilkinson didn't come out more strong potentially
00:29:55.040against them and that they are running? Some people are having a problem with that.
00:29:59.640Well, Andrew Wilkinson's response was that those kinds of views are not representative of the BC
00:30:05.200Liberal Party and certainly just from a personal perspective. I mean, I find them abhorrent,
00:30:10.380But I do know that those views I don't see reflected in any of the candidates I know, in any of the party members that I know.
00:30:17.920So I think from a political perspective, I think it may have some impact on some of the younger voters and the urban voters.
00:30:24.980But I think more from a less political standpoint than just a personal standpoint, it's not a view that I could support.
00:30:32.000I think in the case of Throness, it's a little frustrating for sure, as his views are totally inconsistent with the party that I know.
00:30:40.160And he shouldn't have been running under that banner in the first place, if I'm going to be frank.
00:30:43.920You know that Laurie Throness had been elected back in 2013, and then the BC Liberals threw him under the bus and didn't let him run for re-election again in 2020.
00:30:54.280So he'd already been elected twice for that party.
00:30:56.600He was on, back when the party was still pretending to have a center-right block, he was one of the center-right-to-right sort of MLAs they had.
00:31:05.860Do you know the view that he proposed, that she said was abhorrent?
00:31:10.280And he was opposing SOGI-123, and he was opposing the new conversion therapy ban that the federal liberals and Justin Trudeau were pushing in Bill C-4 that basically says that if you basically do not affirm your child believing they are the opposite sex, then you are engaging in conversion therapy and should be charged or fined in some way.