Canada's Worst MP embarrasses himself and the Liberals again
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In this episode of The Wyatt Claypool Show, we're talking about the incompetence of Mark Gerritsen, a backbencher of the Liberal Party of Canada, and the dumbest thing a politician has ever tweeted.
Transcript
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Hello, everyone. Welcome back to The Wyatt Claypool Show.
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And that is what I've made the topic of the show today.
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Talking about all the different shapes and flavors of incompetence
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that we see throughout our political system here in Canada.
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couldn't every episode of this show just be on political incompetence
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considering our political system is full of incompetent people
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and we have a lot of really funny things to talk about.
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I usually like to salt other episodes with like polling data
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or talking about other sort of strategy type things.
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Today, we're basically just making fun of terrible Canadian politicians,
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communications teams, as well as why I hate political consultants so much
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because they are truly some of the worst people in Canadian politics.
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But to start off, we're going to be talking about probably the worst MP in Parliament.
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I know I've named other people as probably the worst MP,
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but spiritually, we all know it's Mark Gerritsen.
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I'm about to jump into the tweet he put out yesterday that everyone's making fun of.
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But before that, I just want to quickly plug my website, wyattclaypool.com.
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As many of you may know, I was unfairly disqualified out of the Conservative Party nomination
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They had no excuse to kick me out, but they did it anyways.
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And I'm at least fighting back across the country by signing up people on my website
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so I can give nomination recommendations to anyone, no matter what riding you live in,
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both for municipal elections, provincial elections, federal elections.
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We need better people all over the country, so I'm trying to expand my network around everywhere
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so I can try and make sure that you and I can have sort of influence over every race that goes on in this country
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so we can get better, more Conservative MPs in our Parliament.
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But now, without further ado, let's get into one of the dumbest things I've ever seen a politician tweet out
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So Mark Gerritsen yesterday just tweeted this out, this ominous note that says,
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See you in Ottawa, and the photo is of him holding up a custom coffee mug that I suppose that he got printed for himself,
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and it says, Boo-hoo, get over it, quoting his Liberal colleague, Jennifer O'Connell.
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Yes, he is trying to make this like some big populist rallying point for himself and the Liberal Party.
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The worst quote ever said by a Liberal MP, probably in the last year of Canadian politics,
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has now been made into some sort of rallying cry for Mark Gerritsen,
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who took the dumbest quote a colleague of his has ever said, surprisingly it wasn't him,
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but then he took it and turned it into the dumbest social media post we've ever seen.
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Obviously he blocks people from commenting, so no comments,
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I don't know about you, but I would see, like, if I was on Mark Gerritsen's communications team,
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I would have beat him to death before letting him put out a tweet like this,
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because that would be less damaging to the party.
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because I guarantee the Liberal Party leadership has probably tasked his staff
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with never letting him pick up a phone and tweet stuff like this.
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and Mark Gerritsen had got his phone out of the locked box that they probably put it in,
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But it's not even that this is a terrible tweet,
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Hey, he made a fool of himself, but he is a backbench Liberal MP.
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This was what launched several news articles on how uncaring the Liberals are.
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Jennifer O'Connell, you can see at the top there, she's retweeted this post.
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This was something that had National Post, Toronto Star, Toronto Star, like Toronto Sun,
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all the papers wrote on this, of just how uncaring that quote was,
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that boo-hoo, get over it, in response to investigations basically being scuttled and
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shut down and committees not being able to do their work on foreign interference.
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Is this really the association that they want to have with that comment?
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I would have maybe kicked Jennifer O'Connell out of her nomination if I was the Liberal leadership.
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I don't really like the idea of kicking people out of any nomination.
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It would be ironic if I was actually in favor of that, considering what happened to me.
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But goodness, Mark somehow, with only saying, how many words is this?
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Six words and one photo of himself, has made it so that there is another new cycle of news
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out there showing how out of touch the Liberals are.
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Who could guess how the Liberals fell 21 points behind the Conservatives?
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It's almost like they show people that they have utter contempt for their standards of ethics.
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They just think that winning is the only value and they rub it in your face every single day
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that they're still in government and you can't do anything about it until the fall of 2025.
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The rumor I always hear is that, well, one, the Liberals might want to keep the government in check
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or they want to stay in power as long as possible and that they might just wait this thing out until
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the very end, although they did move the election back about a week, so they're no longer giving out
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pensions to people who would barely qualify for them.
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That was probably a good move on their part because it looked like they were effectively
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just trying to rob the piggy bank on the way out by just passing out pensions to all these MPs
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who didn't deserve it by artificially extending the election date.
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But what they might do is they want to hold the election this year in November.
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That is actually why there's a lot of Conservative nominations taking place and Liberal nominations
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Summer is actually a time of year you don't really want to do nominations.
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There's a lot of fundraisers that go on in the summer and nominations can kind of distract
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But the reason the Liberals want it in November is that they want the Canadian election to coincide
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with the American presidential election because the Liberals have nothing but whining.
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And so they at least want to be able to make as many Trump comparisons on the way out
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as possible. But really, that's not going to work.
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The Liberals don't have any real trust with Canadians.
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So even if for some reason Canadians really hate Donald Trump, for some reason Canadians
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It's really just that they consume a lot of liberal American media.
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So by osmosis, Canadians don't like him either.
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You know, Trump obviously has a far better track record than Joe Biden does.
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But whatever. Canadians will see the Canadian election going on, the American election,
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and they will for some reason feel like a strange need to vote liberal to like reject
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Trump, even though it's a completely different country and we have completely different issues
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And obviously, Pierre Polyev is going to be better in government than Justin Trudeau,
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just like Donald Trump would be better in government than Joe Biden, because anyone
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But that apparently is the liberal strategy, which, to tie it into the theme of the show,
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I know that the Liberals think that's a clever thing to do.
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But if I was them, I'd hold on to the very end if I was cynical.
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If I was, you know, if I was doing the ethical thing, I'd call the election as soon as possible.
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And that might even be better for the Liberals in five years, where people at least remember,
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at least they got out of office early, rather than just forcing us to suffer with them as
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But the November gambit would not do very well.
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But now I want to jump over to the Liberals' ongoing strategy of how to get one over on
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the Conservatives, undermine their support base, and bring people back into the Liberal fold.
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And they have not budged an inch on their strategy.
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Their strategy is still just basically proposing new spending and then saying,
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ah, the Conservatives would cut it, which I don't know why that's a bad thing.
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Everyone in this country knows we spend too much.
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And I'm not even saying that as a colloquial type thing, like people I know think we spend
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No, based on the polling, the vast majority of people, two thirds of the country thinks
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Two thirds of the country think immigration is too high.
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Two thirds of the country don't really think that the dental and pharmacare programs are
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Yes, you can find anecdotal evidence that some people benefit from them.
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But you don't spend billions of dollars to generate a few dozen anecdotes to then destroy
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the pharmaceutical and dental care industries in this country.
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But this is what the Liberals just posted today on their X account.
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In just the first half of 2024, Pure Poly is Conservative voted against free prescription
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contraceptives, a national school food program, building nearly 4 million new homes, protecting
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Well, oh my goodness, the housing one really irks me.
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Well, they're building nearly 4 million new homes.
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Leslie and Lewis absolutely mocked Sean Frazier in a committee meeting by just asking him,
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how are you going to build a house every three minutes?
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Because that's effectively what you would have to do in order to achieve this promise.
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I think it was like every three minutes and 10 seconds, they have to have built a new
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And Sean Frazier basically acted like he's Tinkerbell and Leslie and Lewis is being bad
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for not believing in him enough that he can build statistically impossible amounts of homes
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The fact that housing does not just spread out of the ground, like, you know, I don't
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even know what really spreads out of the ground that fast, like grass, I guess, that you actually
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There needs to be inspections based on federal and provincial standards, as well as the fact
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The one thing I actually will give the Liberal government credit on is at least they started
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putting caps on foreign students coming into the country.
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So when in last year or the previous two years, we had like 40,000 new foreign students coming
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from India into Canada in like the months of like January and February, these days it's
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down to like 20,000, 12,000 because they did institute caps.
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The way I will undermine this credit I'm giving them is just by noting that in India itself,
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they were even saying that a lot of students were not applying to go to Canada anymore because
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The schools that you're signing up for to go to in Canada, most of them are like these
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scam institute schools that are not actually teaching you anything, and they're just fake
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business schools set up by immigration lawyers.
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So that's one of those things where like, did the Liberals do the right thing?
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Sure, but they kind of did the right thing after they knew the problem was going to take
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So they wanted the credit while also having the baked in excuse that people are also not showing
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up to Canada as much these days anyways, but they're still not putting tough caps on temporary
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foreign workers, and our permanent resident numbers are still going up by nearly half a
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But anyways, I want to move on to talking about a Liberal video that I think demonstrates
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that even Justin Trudeau has kind of given up in a little bit of a certain sense.
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He was in this, he was in like Parliament the other day, going back and forth both Polyev,
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Like he's given up on actually winning the next election.
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Like you judge for yourself how Justin Trudeau sounds in this clip, but at least to me, it
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seems like he doesn't actually really have the spirit to fight anymore, which good, he
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It's like someone needs to give him a nicotine patch.
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The Conservatives over this past session have stood in this house to stand against dental
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They've stood in this house to stand against expanding child care investments and spaces.
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They've stood in this house to stand against the kinds of investments that are helping Canadians
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Now, they're filled with slogans and bumper stickers that don't solve problems, but amplify
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anger while we are focused on supporting Canadians.
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That was the kind of country they want to live.
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He probably saw like Angus Reid showing the Conservatives rocketing into the mid-20s while
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the Liberals are literally scraping along the bottom of the barrel at 21%, only slightly
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We have to also remember in Canadian polls, I think that this Angus Reid one, what's the
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I'm not sure if they're giving it, but usually there is a margin of error about three or four
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So when in terms of the Angus Reid polls, they've been in a statistical tie with the NDP for the
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last three polls that Angus Reid has conducted.
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And the problem with this, and when you actually looked at this latest poll mapped out, the
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NDP was winning more seats than the Liberals, because the Liberals are like the Conservatives.
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The Conservatives can get votes in any riding where there's a lot of ridings where the NDP
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will get five percent and other ridings where they'll get 35 percent.
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So when the NDP vote is around 20 percent, they can actually win up to like 48 seats or so,
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It's not much considering that Jagmeet Singh has put that party in a deep hole and it's
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only the incompetence of Justin Trudeau that's keeping him in the game.
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If the Liberal leader was slightly good at this, the NDP would be even more relevant than
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But Justin Trudeau is so corrupt that he makes Jagmeet Singh look good.
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Although Jagmeet Singh then makes Justin Trudeau look good by joining with his government
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But the Liberals, with only 21 percent, the problem is, and this is the problem actually with the
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PPC, but the PPC is just a small party example of this compared to the Greens, is that the
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Liberal vote, more than the NDP vote, is spread across the country.
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The Conservatives are even more so than the rest of them because the Conservatives are super
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That's why they need to have big popular vote wins in order to win the most seats in the
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And the PPC is the same, like you can do the same comparison between the Greens and
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The PPC can get more votes than the Greens in the 21 election, but win zero seats.
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And the Greens can only get like 2.5 percent of the vote, but they win two seats because
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So that's a bit of a life lesson in politics that if you want to be, if you want to base
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a party on anything, base it first on regional or very specific demographic interests and then
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If you're trying to be everything to everybody, it's going to be a bit of a harder party to
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get off the ground unless you have a very established brand like the Conservatives or
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And that's also, of course, why, you know, the Bloc does very well.
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They only run in Quebec's, ergo, their 8% translates to a lot of seats.
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If you're having, you're up 2% nationally and those votes are only coming from Quebec,
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that would be like a clean sweep for the Bloc outside of Montreal, effectively in Quebec
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But actually, I believe the Conservatives are even in second these days in Quebec, which
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But yeah, like the Conservatives are in second place in Quebec.
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And there was a lot of like talk about how, well, Pierre Pauly is going to have to really
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muscle up in British Columbia and Ontario and the Maritimes to make up for the fact that
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the Conservatives could lose everything in Quebec.
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We're like potentially going to triple the seats in Quebec.
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But as long as hopefully there's not too many incompetent people in the background of the
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Conservative Party, because, and maybe I'll move on to this now, never overestimate the
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As much as you and I hate Justin Trudeau, at least he can say one thing for himself, that
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he isn't a political consultant and a lobbyist.
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Because political consultants, their job in Canadian politics, half satirical I'm being,
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There are so many campaign managers across Canada.
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I've been around some of them in these races, seen how they operate, and I've never been
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There's a few people who run strategy firms that I actually think do a good job, but
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it's the vast minority of people who are actually good at their jobs.
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The people who are running, and I don't want to name names to not get too personal.
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The people who are running the UCP campaign in 2023 were utterly incompetent.
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They did not win the 2023 provincial election for the UCP.
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They just, Rachel Notley and the NDP just failed to win.
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They went in so hard on Daniel Smith that Daniel Smith did a decent job in the debate,
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and because the NDP had basically been portraying her as an incompetent, crazy person, she looked
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And then Notley, because she assumed that she was going to win, which she probably was
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going to win, a week before the election was to be held, and now it's a 33% corporate
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tax hike, and then she effectively only lost the election by 1,800 votes spread across the
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So no, the UCP did not put out a smart campaign.
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And these MLAs, who could have been more charismatic than they had been acting, were effectively
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Just knock on the door, say, hey, I'm X person, and I'm running in your area for re-election,
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Are you going to vote for us or the other guys?
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And then they walk away no matter what the answer was.
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Like, I'm not the most charismatic man on the planet.
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I'm weird, I'm a little bit, like, I'm a bit eccentric, I guess you could say.
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But I actually talk to people at the doors, and people in politics have to realize, to
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win votes, you have to talk to people one-on-one.
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And I have a great example of how a party has risk-managed itself to death, and that is
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You thought I was going to say the BC United Party, but I've already talked about them,
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and maybe I'll mention them a little bit later here.
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But they just lost the by-election in the provincial riding of Tuxedo that Heather Stevenson used
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The former premier and, like, and PC Party leader, Heather Stevenson, stepped down from
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this riding, and their new replacement candidate, in this riding that has been conservative since
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it was first created in 1981, they lost to the NDP because the PC Party in Manitoba stands
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Like, I'll admit, I don't follow PC, like, Ontario, Manitoba provincial politics all that
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Like, no offense to Manitobans, I don't live there, it's not a big province, and no big
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political movements have been generated out of Manitoba for a while.
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Like, Wob Canoe is kind of, like, the most exciting thing that's happened in Manitoba for
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I don't like Wob Canoe, but you could say that he has some good populist skills that
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are admirable to watch, even though I don't like the policies that he wants to pass, although
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he does want to get through the federal carbon tax, so there's a plus for him.
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But the Manitoba PC Party ran a horrible campaign.
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The people were trying to claim, well, they lost the provincial election because their
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No, that's how they recovered a lot of seats that they were going to lose.
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By taking some socially conservative stances, they actually were able to fight back a little
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bit in the polls and make it not a complete route for them, and it was even semi-competitive
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towards the end, although it was a clear victory for the NDP at the end.
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And the way that you get a stronghold riding like Tuxedo going to the NDP in Manitoba is that
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you believe that the word controversial is the word that you must avoid at all costs.
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Do you know why Pierre Polyev is a very good politician?
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Because he knows how to be controversial in a strategic manner.
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Yeah, you don't go out in the streets and you swear and you act like a boor and you create
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controversy by just merely offending people in a raw sense.
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But if you're controversial, that usually means that you're taking stances, strong stances
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on issues that people vote on. Controversial issues are the ones that get people voting
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at the polls. In Manitoba, even some issues that really didn't have big policy implications
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were what people voted based on. It was the landfill issue with the missing and merged
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indigenous women where they were trying to find the bodies of two murdered women or one
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murdered woman. And because the PC government had backed off, we don't want to pursue it,
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that ended up being a big hit against them that they seemed uncompassionate.
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And it was a good wedge issue for Wab Kanu and the NDP.
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I think, and I'm not trying to undermine the seriousness of that situation. Obviously,
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that wasn't a big policy issue. And I don't really think that's why the PCs lost.
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I think that their decision to just say, yeah, we're just not going to look into that
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was kind of indicative of why they were already losing. The problem with that government is that
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basically they weren't getting control of the fiscal situation in the province.
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They weren't particularly that conservative on economic issues. They really weren't that
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conservative on fiscal issues. They basically only did this knee-jerk pro-parental rights move at the
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end, which even to real social conservatives, it kind of seemed a bit phony. So I could see still a
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lot of people not being swayed over by that. But it was a government that you couldn't say anything
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about. And I know there's probably going to be somebody that's going to bump into me today and say,
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you did the PC party in Manitoba dirty by not mentioning how great their platform was. Oh,
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goodness. Platforms? I'm not, if I have to, if you're going to tell me like, no, no, if you get
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to page 15 on their platform, there's some good stuff in there. No. If I don't even know through
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just pure osmosis as having focused on the political situation in Canada enough that the
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Manitoba PC party had an innovative, great new platform, then it wasn't a good platform. If I need
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to go and read it like it's a novel to really get the substance out of it, you failed to put together
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a good party with a clear vision. You need to take stances on issues that are controversial.
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Know who's actually doing a great job of this? Blaine Higgs in New Brunswick. He's probably right
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now in Canada, maybe one of two real fiscally conservative premiers. The man is actually getting
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a hold of the Manitoba budget. The provincial government budget in Manitoba hasn't been
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balanced in probably a millennia. And he's actually has it balanced with a surplus with
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the promise that in the near future, they're going to be able to cut taxes. That's unheard of
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in Canadian politics. And although people pull up polls saying, you know, he's the most disliked
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premier in Canada. Okay. Yeah. He doesn't do a lot of handout tactics in order to make himself
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liked, but the 34%, around 35% of New Brunswickers who like him, really like him because they know
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what he's doing. He's basically the Ralph Klein of New Brunswick. He's frankly the only Ralph Klein
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that currently exists in Canada, a guy who takes hard stances and fights for them. He was the maverick
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who jumped on the parental rights movement early, and he's fought for it tooth and nail and proved
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that he's a strong ally. And so the people who liked him on those issues are going to show up and
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vote for him. Mark my words, he'll probably be able to win this New Brunswick election. And if he
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doesn't win, don't come at me because I didn't say that. No, but like legitimately, I think he
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should win. That's a guy who understands how politics works. I think he's also following his
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morals. He's taking stances he truly believes in, but that's also the, that's also what being a
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properly controversial candidate is. It's a man fighting for what he thinks is right. Other
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people disagree with them, but he's not going to be deterred. That's what made Pierre Polly have very
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good on the federal level. He believes in doing, you know, I want to cut the carbon tax, defund the CBC,
00:24:35.060
get rid of central bank, digital currency, all this stuff. And you weren't going to make him
00:24:39.120
waver. When the media came after Polly have and said, you're controversial. You said this and that,
00:24:43.820
or some people say this at you by holding his ground and going back at them. He gained supporters,
00:24:48.620
the PC party in Manitoba and a lot of other parties across the country. And it sometimes even still
00:24:54.320
happens in the federal party. Like in my nomination in signal Hill, you have people who, who like,
00:24:59.920
they think that the, the ideal in politics is not ruffling any feathers ever because ruffling feathers,
00:25:05.880
that sounds bad. Like, no, you actually need to win over new voters by taking territory. If we're
00:25:12.680
thinking about politics, like a military campaign or like a war that's going on, not that we should
00:25:17.860
like think of politics as war. I think that's a bit aggressive, but it's just for this, this
00:25:22.160
illustration, it's key. So many of these consultants lose elections because they engage in what I call
00:25:28.420
blockhouse warfare. Here's our territory or at the very, at the start of the campaign,
00:25:33.180
we do one offensive and we grab the territory. We own more than half the territory in terms of like,
00:25:38.240
let's just pretend that means being ahead in the polls. And we set up blockhouses along the entire,
00:25:43.280
the entire like border of our territory. And we just defend. The problem with being purely defensive
00:25:49.720
is the best you can do in a day is not lose ground. The worst you can do is lose everything.
00:25:54.940
In a real competent campaign, what you need to be doing is defending, attacking, finding out where
00:26:01.080
your opponent's vulnerable, drilling on those issues, connecting with voters, and really talking
00:26:06.380
to people. When you're only thinking about risk management, you can't talk to a voter in a real
00:26:11.220
way where they can detect that you care because you're too scared of saying something that's going
00:26:15.860
to make them not like you. You have to risk not being liked in order to get somebody to truly like
00:26:21.320
you. You don't like your friends because they're guarded and don't want to talk about anything
00:26:25.960
and only sort of want to discuss the weather and golf. You know, you like your friends because you
00:26:30.600
can be open. And that's where you kind of have to think of how to do politics. You got to go to a
00:26:35.640
door. I did over 6,000 doors in my riding. You got to approach a door and think of that person as a
00:26:41.380
potential friend because they could be. And you have to talk to them like they're a friend and you
00:26:45.080
don't guard yourself around friends. You just talk. That's what I would do. I'd sometimes be at
00:26:49.480
someone's door from anywhere from five minutes to an over an hour because I wasn't going to leave
00:26:54.580
until they truly believe that I actually did care about what I was talking about. I'm not doing a
00:26:58.760
drive-by where I'm just basically pressuring you to renew a membership and then run away. That's
00:27:02.900
pathetic. Who cares? I door knocked on it. I door knocked every door I came across where other
00:27:07.540
candidates in my riding basically just targeted old party lists and renewed old people without
00:27:12.900
actually really demonstrating why they were good MP. Just basically pretended like, oh, we're from the
00:27:17.660
party and you should renew your membership. And assuming that because they renewed them that
00:27:21.300
they'd have some loyalty to them, frankly, that's why one of the candidates pushed to get me out of
00:27:25.700
the race because I was stealing all the support because he's a terrible candidate. I'll just name
00:27:29.740
him right now because why be guarded about it? It's Jeremy Nixon. So if you live in the riding of
00:27:34.220
Calgary Signal Hill, please vote Michael Kim number one on your ballot and all the other candidates just
00:27:39.060
don't vote for Jeremy Nixon anywhere on your ballot. But, you know, this is just one of those
00:27:44.820
things that I've wanted to do a bit of a rant on before, but consultants are the worst. Political
00:27:49.780
insiders who are unelected, but they control party policy, they're overly controlling about candidate
00:27:55.920
behavior because they think being inoffensive is the same thing as being liked. It's not British
00:28:03.260
Columbia United, the BC United Party proved being inoffensive doesn't get you anywhere. It just gets
00:28:08.520
you 11% of the vote because you become the candidate for nobody. And everyone wants either
00:28:14.320
people want a strong, somebody who believes in something to the nth degree that if you're a,
00:28:20.240
you know, you're, if you're an NDP, they want a strong NDP. If you're a conservative,
00:28:24.040
they want a strong conservative. Nobody, it's not 2006 anymore. People aren't looking for the wishy
00:28:30.180
washy PC party guy. Who's, you know, a tall man with a chiseled jaw and broad shoulders. And doesn't
00:28:35.680
he seem professional. People want you to take strong stances on the policy, not just seem like
00:28:40.280
a strong dude. Like, you know, he has strength of character. Well, what does he believe on the
00:28:44.340
issues? I don't know. That, that, the thing is that after O'Toole betrayed the conservative party
00:28:49.080
base, I could see it coming from a mile away, me and Daniel Boardman and some of the other people
00:28:53.320
at the National Telegraph. But when, when he, when people were betrayed by Aaron O'Toole,
00:28:57.960
that's when people started asking questions about people's policy. Okay. What would you do on this
00:29:02.440
issue? What would you do on that issue? Because when, when Aaron O'Toole wasn't investigated enough,
00:29:07.140
gave him enough room to flip on everybody later. But yeah. So, well, that's not it for me today,
00:29:13.720
quite yet. I do want to talk a little bit about foreign interference in Canada and just where I
00:29:18.680
think that this story is going, if it's going to affect the next election. But before I do that,
00:29:23.260
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00:29:51.620
run. He's suing us for defamation and he hasn't even filed any pieces of evidence to prove that we
00:29:57.040
defamed him. We had a guest writer write an article about how he and other Chinese billionaires
00:30:01.820
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00:30:07.280
something about him, our guest writer merely hyperlinks to a long investigative article about
00:30:11.340
him at the Globe and Mail. We pretty much said literally nothing new about him other than his
00:30:16.320
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00:30:21.740
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00:30:26.440
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00:30:30.960
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00:30:35.680
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00:30:43.620
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description below. But now let's talk about foreign interference. And first, I want to play
00:30:53.000
this clip from, oddly enough, my favorite opera, The Mikado, when it was recorded by the CBC
00:30:58.840
in 1986, because I think that this does a really good explanation of what liberal party MPs are like
00:31:05.360
these days. But I don't just stop at that. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I go and dine with middle
00:31:10.920
class people on reasonable terms. I dance at cheap suburban parties for a moderate fee.
00:31:16.520
I accept refreshments from any hand, however lowly. I also retail state secrets for a very low figure.
00:31:25.280
Sorry, I like that clip. It's actually fully available on YouTube. If you just look up the
00:31:30.020
Mikado CBC, easily the best recording of the entire thing. Actually, that guy, if you if you
00:31:35.560
know him, he's actually from Day After Tomorrow, that movie. He's done a lot of stuff. I think he died
00:31:40.740
of like throat cancer or some sort of cancer in like the early 2010s. Really good guy. Sorry, I secretly
00:31:47.140
like opera. And now you all know. But so the thing with the foreign interference in Canada is this case
00:31:55.000
is very weird. Most scandals that we've had before, I kind of know how it's going to break against one
00:32:01.560
party or the other. I'm not sure if this foreign interference thing is going to break by the next
00:32:06.900
election. I'm not sure how much this even hurts the liberals, oddly enough, simply because it's
00:32:13.360
reporting a lot of the things that Canadians already know about the liberals. Plus, there frankly is a
00:32:19.820
strong probability there is one or two conservative MPs also in like, dealing like with some sort of
00:32:26.260
foreign interference connection. It's not because conservatives are bad. It's because in the two main
00:32:31.300
parties, and it's not even because liberals are bad. They are, but it's not because of that. But foreign
00:32:35.780
interference is always going to happen in the most major parties. This is why Jagmeet Singh and Elizabeth
00:32:40.580
May are running around acting holier than thou, because nobody's going to infiltrate the Green Party or like
00:32:45.900
the NDP. They're useless. They don't have any power. But in large parties like the conservatives
00:32:50.960
and the liberals, if you have unscrupulous people potentially winning nominations and then becoming
00:32:56.480
MPs who don't really have any shame about, you know, basically being traitors to the country,
00:33:02.680
you have the potential to have a lot of these people willing to work with foreign governments
00:33:07.880
because they're two major parties with a lot of power. So there's a lot of offers coming in for them.
00:33:11.980
And then one or two unscrupulous people start working with a foreign power, you have a problem.
00:33:17.160
Now, the liberals, like they know exactly who in their caucus is engaging in foreign interference.
00:33:23.620
They probably knew before the NISACOP committee had even been like, had even been held.
00:33:28.560
They easily, it's like Maja Jahari, hand-dong, we know at least two of them. Probably Ikra Khalid,
00:33:34.720
if I'm saying that name right, she's like, she's literally appeared at rallies where there was like
00:33:39.720
banners behind her saying that Kashmir will be Pakistan or something like that. She's just
00:33:45.860
obviously extremely pro-Pakistani government to the point where she like will attend rallies or events
00:33:52.980
where they're openly stumping against the sovereignty of the country of India.
00:33:56.800
There's a lot of nutters in the liberal party. But does this come up before the next election?
00:34:01.740
I don't know. The liberals are using a lot of tactics in order to tie up the ability
00:34:05.500
for someone like Pierre Polyev, even if he saw the NISACOP report, to even talk about it.
00:34:10.240
And if he did talk about it, there could potentially be like legal ramifications,
00:34:14.020
maybe even including jail, because it would be considered some form of soft treason
00:34:19.740
to have exposed this top secret information, even though it shouldn't be secret and Canadians
00:34:24.640
should know if there are like legitimate real dual loyalties with our MPs in our parties.
00:34:31.520
And so also, again, the problem too is that if there's a single conservative in that bunch,
00:34:38.300
the problem we have then is that the media will cast this as a 50-50 event. There could be 25
00:34:44.920
liberals implicated and one backbench conservative that nobody likes. And the media will still make
00:34:50.880
this a, well, they both did it. So what does this say about Canada's political system when obviously
00:34:58.040
it says a lot more about the liberals than it says about some flunky backbencher conservative MP,
00:35:03.560
probably not in the shadow cabinet. So this is where I'm not sure even if the conservatives want
00:35:08.680
this information out, because it would have to be 100% bad for the liberals for it to even benefit
00:35:14.280
the conservatives, where if there's any even inkling that is bad for the conservatives, it could be a big
00:35:20.040
issue. And the one thing I've heard, there might actually be zero conservative MPs named in it.
00:35:24.680
But the one thing I had heard was that they were going to bring up the idea that like the Indian
00:35:29.320
government had interfered in the 22 conservative leadership race to benefit pure Polyev against
00:35:34.760
Patrick Brown, in which I'm not trying to be rude, but I don't care. I don't like foreign
00:35:40.760
interference. If the Indian government did that, I hope that we would have, we'd sanction them if
00:35:44.860
they're trying to rig elections or they're trying to sell memberships on behalf of a political
00:35:49.040
candidate. That's bad. Also, Polyev was going to easily win that nomination, that leadership
00:35:54.000
anyways. And Patrick Brown himself was cheating. And Patrick Brown himself aligns himself with open
00:36:01.120
pro terror organizations, Kalistani groups, Muslim Brotherhood groups, you know, Tamil Tigers, he tends
00:36:07.280
to be with some of the most militant, like, some like very zealous, Islamist and kind of like Sikh
00:36:14.720
separatist types. I don't doubt that he'd work with the IRA if he could. And so this is one of those
00:36:19.880
stories where if the media comes out and they act like now the conservative party leadership campaign
00:36:25.480
is illegitimate, that would be stupid. Because we can see the memberships that were sold by Polyev,
00:36:31.220
it was like 360,000. I don't think that the Indian government was doing that. If they did anything,
00:36:38.340
it's, you know, shame on them, sanction them. But at the same time, it wouldn't amount to a hill of
00:36:43.880
beans. Well, so it's one of those issues where is it an issue? Or is it just like a fake issue? Like,
00:36:50.240
even if it happened, did it really happen? Because it was rigging against a guy who's openly
00:36:55.560
like caters to anti India organizations, who himself was cheating in that race. And then we're going to
00:37:03.280
say that the leadership race was potentially negatively affected by a government going after the
00:37:09.700
anti India guy, even though he's it's a it's a big mess. And I don't think that there's really
00:37:14.720
an easy way of going through that. This is where I could see this not being a scandal that the
00:37:20.580
conservatives want to pursue. Because even if something as that stupid came out, the media
00:37:25.160
would pretend while they're equally guilty to the liberals, even if the liberals are literally just
00:37:29.020
selling out the government to the tune of billions of dollars to foreign governments and
00:37:33.480
signing secret deals or whatever. But that's just what Canadian politics is like. Everyone's
00:37:39.000
incompetent, especially Mark Gerritsen. But that should be it for me today on the Wyatt Claypool
00:37:44.600
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