The National Telegraph - Wyatt Claypool - November 24, 2025


Carney admits Trump Ignores Him - Liberals lose big election issue!


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Wyatt Clunock talks about the Prime Minister's lack of contact with Donald Trump, and why it's not a big deal. He also talks about why Canada should actually be trying to negotiate a trade deal with the United States.

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00:00:00.000 Hey guys, Wyatt Claypool here.
00:00:02.760 Although this made a splash on social media yesterday,
00:00:06.020 like all stories that don't make Prime Minister Mark Carney or his liberal government look good,
00:00:11.040 I found there was not that much mainstream media coverage.
00:00:14.580 So yesterday, Carney at a press conference was asked a question by a reporter
00:00:19.260 wondering if he had talked to President Donald Trump in a while.
00:00:23.340 And Carney just admits he hasn't been talking to him,
00:00:25.920 and then kind of tries to play tough like he doesn't need to talk to him.
00:00:29.520 I'm ignoring him.
00:00:31.180 No, Carney's not ignoring Donald Trump.
00:00:34.280 Carney does not have the ability to actually get a hold of Donald Trump.
00:00:38.320 Previously, Trump has even said that Carney and the Canadians were following him around Asia
00:00:42.980 trying to get a meeting with him, that Carney had basically begged to get a phone call with them.
00:00:47.680 But now Carney's acting like I don't need Donald Trump.
00:00:51.020 Who needs the quickie mart? 0.84
00:00:52.680 Not me.
00:00:53.640 It's all just so silly.
00:00:55.760 He ran on the idea that he could get a deal signed with the Americans, and we have no deal, 0.53
00:01:01.080 and now we're just supposed to accept the idea that that's a totally fine thing for him to just not accomplish,
00:01:06.360 despite it being like the signature policy that he ran on.
00:01:10.240 It was pretty much that.
00:01:11.880 It was that, plus him saying, we're going to spend less and invest more,
00:01:15.260 which has turned into, we're just going to spend a lot.
00:01:17.620 But anyways, you don't need to hear that from me too much longer.
00:01:21.760 Let's just jump right into the video of this press conference and talk about it a bit later.
00:01:26.140 And then I do want to actually bring up a poll from Abacus Data and show you just how much the Trump issue with Canadians
00:01:32.720 has slumped since the election.
00:01:35.940 Who cares?
00:01:37.120 I mean, it's a detail.
00:01:38.460 It's a detail.
00:01:39.340 I spoke to him.
00:01:40.200 I'll speak to him again when it matters.
00:01:41.580 I mean, they're sort of, comme j'ai dit, nous sommes très occupés.
00:01:47.340 Nous sommes très, très occupés.
00:01:49.360 Every time he gets uncomfortable, have you ever noticed he starts speaking French?
00:01:53.000 Like, he started that one off saying, oh, it doesn't matter.
00:01:55.760 I'll speak to him when it matters.
00:01:57.860 Why does it not matter now?
00:01:59.360 Like, genuinely, can he actually answer why, for some reason, it's okay for him not to actually try and pursue a call with Trump now?
00:02:06.120 Like, why is it no longer a big deal when it was signature policy that you ran on?
00:02:10.460 He slipped into French because he could anticipate the French answer that he needed to give.
00:02:26.540 I don't even know what that means.
00:02:27.680 Like, I guess because politicians always have to answer twice, so he did French first.
00:02:31.600 I think he answered French first to give him more time to massage out his statement in English.
00:02:36.600 I look forward to speaking to the president soon, but I don't have a burning issue to speak with the president about right now.
00:02:46.400 When America wants to come back and have the discussions on the trade side, we will have those discussions.
00:02:51.660 He has no burning desire?
00:02:55.320 He doesn't need to talk to him?
00:02:56.860 Oh, just when I feel like it.
00:02:58.300 When Trump decides he wants to talk to me, I'll talk to him.
00:03:02.200 Okay.
00:03:03.300 Now, I never take the position that Canada should grovel for a trade deal.
00:03:07.760 I don't think that we act like we don't want it either.
00:03:10.420 Really, Canada should always be engaging in negotiations to encourage the Americans that, guess what?
00:03:15.120 We can actually come to a win-win with each other, and maybe Canada and the U.S. need to be closer trade allies with each other in order to box out countries like China on the international stage.
00:03:25.980 That's how I would do it.
00:03:27.420 Maybe you would make demands.
00:03:28.820 Maybe you would give concessions, but you would be triangulating towards getting to that win-win that Donald Trump wants.
00:03:33.920 Because if you know anything about Donald Trump, you're not going to get a trade deal sign basically popping into the room saying, oh, do you got something on your tie there?
00:03:41.020 And, like, I'll flick him in the nose.
00:03:42.100 Hey, hey, well, you're going to give us exactly what you want, and you're going to go back home looking like a loser.
00:03:47.140 And that's been, like, the liberal strategy here.
00:03:50.540 We're going to show up and tell him what for, and he's going to give it to us.
00:03:53.980 Or we're just going to basically meekly sit there, ask for what we want.
00:03:57.320 And when he doesn't give it to us, you know, we, like, just, you know, kick the dirt and we, like, walk home, you eventually actually have to negotiate, which involves concessions, demands, threats, all those sorts of things.
00:04:08.740 You know, a world-building narrative about how Canada and the United States need to be together to form an international trade coalition against, you know, China, Russia, and Iran.
00:04:18.260 You could do that, but we've just not done it.
00:04:20.460 We've not been willing to actually negotiate.
00:04:22.280 And so, of course, Carney has no burning desire to talk to Trump every time he does it, he embarrasses himself.
00:04:27.520 I'm going to answer a potential question here, and then I'll pass back, which is, for example, with respect to Ukraine and the 28-point plan.
00:04:38.000 We are a member, core member of the Coalition of the Willing.
00:04:41.700 You would have seen a demonstration of that yesterday with the meeting of European leaders, a core group of European leaders, the Prime Minister of Japan, ourselves.
00:04:51.440 And which formed a common position.
00:04:53.380 And that common position is communicated, our national security advisors are meeting today in Geneva, including Canada's, and the common position communicated to do the additional work that's required on the peace plan there.
00:05:10.580 You might be wondering, what does this have to do with anything?
00:05:14.360 And the answer is, it has nothing to do with anything.
00:05:17.520 He is answering a hypothetical question he pitched to himself to get off the issue of trade, because he wants to champion the idea that, oh, he's made us a key part of the Coalition of the Willing.
00:05:27.820 Well, we have no real military, and we have no real ability to support Ukraine, so no, we're really not.
00:05:34.580 This is pretty much an American venture with some NATO allies close to the situation also helping.
00:05:41.060 Canada is a complete footnote in all this.
00:05:43.780 Frankly, Japan is a complete footnote in all this.
00:05:45.980 But this is just the dodge on the trade issue.
00:05:49.080 We are just now talking about Ukraine, because it's an issue where Mark Carney feels, you know, noble and robust when he speaks about it.
00:05:56.640 Each of us do not need to call President Trump and communicate that position.
00:06:02.480 We need to forge that position.
00:06:04.000 That position's been communicated.
00:06:05.400 He's proving that he does not need to speak to Donald Trump, because on this completely ancillary issue where Canada is really not a player, well, we don't need to call Trump to have a position on Ukraine.
00:06:17.040 It's like, okay, fair.
00:06:20.120 I don't know what that has to do with soft lumber, aluminum, steel, automotives, and oil and gas.
00:06:26.700 You know, I'm confused on that front.
00:06:29.100 But apparently that makes sense, that because we don't call Trump about our position about Ukraine, we don't need to talk to him about a trade deal between Canada and the United States.
00:06:38.660 You know, perfect sense.
00:06:39.460 Perfect sense right there.
00:06:40.620 The follow-up is being done by our national security advisors.
00:06:44.120 I will be speaking with President Zelensky later today, just to close the loop on some aspects of that.
00:06:49.920 Next question.
00:06:51.440 What did that have to do with anything?
00:06:53.480 And the answer is nothing.
00:06:54.860 It had nothing to do with anything.
00:06:56.180 It had to do with the fact that he said something really stupid at the start of that question, saying, oh, well, you know, I'll talk to Trump when I want to talk to him, or when there's something to be done, or whatever.
00:07:06.560 It's like, ooh, well, we should probably attempt to talk to him sooner than later, considering, one, it was a campaign promise to get a deal signed, and two, you know, it kind of has to do with the economic health of the country.
00:07:18.260 And again, this isn't difficult.
00:07:20.320 You don't even have to sacrifice the entire supply management system.
00:07:23.480 Just put something on the table so that Trump can go to the Midwestern states and say, hey, look, I made it so that you can trade at least some of your dairy and poultry products into Canada.
00:07:33.780 Fair enough.
00:07:34.520 You can probably do that a little bit.
00:07:37.040 Just to get into zero tariffs, it'd be great.
00:07:39.680 And I think that you actually could get to zero tariffs.
00:07:41.740 You just need to basically stage manage it enough that Trump can get that theatrical win, that Canada and the U.S., Carney and Trump walk it onto a stage and sign a peace agreement on trade, basically saying that we are in economic war with China and that we are linking arms with America in a new anti-communist coalition for the 21st century.
00:08:03.340 That would actually probably do pretty good.
00:08:33.340 upper state New York and New England voters in order to actually help him in his midterm.
00:08:39.480 That's what you should be doing.
00:08:40.840 Appeal to his needs in his elections, not just your own needs.
00:08:44.220 That's kind of how a negotiation works.
00:08:46.580 But anyways, now let's move on to something else I wanted to talk about, and that is the polling out from abacus data on the top issues for Canadians.
00:08:55.820 I do really like the way they do these, and I will have to prep you a little bit.
00:09:00.000 So the way that abacus data does this stuff is that they take people's top three issues.
00:09:05.080 You are given the survey, and you can pick up the three issues that you consider the most important to you if a Canadian election was held.
00:09:11.940 And so that means naturally the more obvious issues are at the very top, that being the cost of living.
00:09:19.440 The rise in the cost of living has 66% of Canadians who mark it as one of their three top issues.
00:09:24.820 The economy, which is sort of related, comes second with 39% of people.
00:09:29.420 Healthcare comes in third with 35.
00:09:31.040 And Donald Trump and his administration is at 34% now.
00:09:36.060 Now, that's still much higher than I think it really should be for rational people to assume that a big Canadian election issue is Donald Trump these days.
00:09:44.000 But still, that's way down from election time.
00:09:47.240 Last April, that would have been in a close gun battle with affordability for the top issue.
00:09:52.280 That was like 45%, 49% of people.
00:09:55.420 And this is after the election, before the election was even worse, like 47%, 49% of people would say that Donald Trump and his administration was one of their top three issues.
00:10:04.840 And for the people who put it in their top three, no doubt many of them really made it their number one or number two issue.
00:10:12.040 But being down at 34% right now is not very good because it's probably going to keep falling from there.
00:10:19.060 And when you look at all these other issues, they are not liberal-leaning issues.
00:10:22.900 Now, the abacus data hasn't released their top-line national numbers yet.
00:10:27.460 And usually, once they do that, they will show which party does better on each of the issues.
00:10:32.200 But typically speaking, in past polls that they've shown that, cost of living, economy, and even healthcare go towards the conservatives.
00:10:40.340 The liberals win the Donald Trump issue.
00:10:42.360 But when you go to housing affordability, immigration, crime, job security, those ones are either closely won conservative issues or widely won conservative issues.
00:10:51.960 Like crime and immigration are those issues where 70%, 65% of Canadians overall, no matter what the party is, say that the conservatives would be the most trustworthy on it.
00:11:03.380 And I always want to go down in the analysis that David Coletto did on his own poll here because I found this quite interesting.
00:11:10.320 David Coletto speaking here says, quote,
00:11:12.760 The climate change thing is mentioned here because the overall narrative that David Coletto was sort of highlighting is that climate change has been a lot of people.
00:11:42.740 People have been falling down the polling metrics consistently over the last several polls they've done because of the state of the economy.
00:11:49.160 People do not have the money or the free time to care about what is effectively a luxury issue.
00:11:55.160 Caring about climate and climate justice and the environment is very much an issue you can care about when you are basically you've met all your needs.
00:12:05.220 You have housing, you have food, you have a good paying job, all this stuff, your health is good, then you can care about climate justice.
00:12:13.460 And so these days it only polls when you even ask people their top three issues, it only polls around 12% of people even put in their top three.
00:12:22.260 Now that's pretty pathetic.
00:12:23.920 So what you'll notice is that the last poll they did in the 2025 federal election in April, they only let you pick two of your top issues.
00:12:31.880 And that's pretty massive when you can only choose two issues and 30% of people make Donald Trump and his administration one of their top two issues.
00:12:41.360 Now remember, this poll up here is top three issues.
00:12:45.380 Top three issues, Donald Trump appears with 34% of people picking him and his administration as one of their top issues.
00:12:53.760 I guarantee these days, because back during the election, if you asked people to pick their top three issues, Trump would almost be 50% of people putting top three.
00:13:03.580 It's now 34% top three.
00:13:05.660 And if you did top two, I would be shocked if it broke 23%, 22%.
00:13:11.020 It's probably down to less than a quarter of Canadians actually considering that one of the big pressing issues.
00:13:17.360 So this is basically just my very long-winded way of saying that the liberals need a replacement issue.
00:13:23.400 And so that's why you're going to see them basically announcing projects and new trade deals left and right, many of which are complete nonsense.
00:13:31.040 They're projects that were already approved, that were almost done in some cases.
00:13:34.400 And they're trade deals with countries that don't do anything.
00:13:37.580 We're going to go to Indonesia and say, we should trade more.
00:13:39.760 And then we sign an agreement saying we should trade more.
00:13:42.140 It doesn't do anything.
00:13:43.100 Same thing we did with France.
00:13:44.300 Same thing we did with the UK and other countries.
00:13:46.460 It doesn't actually mean we're going to do any trading with them at any time soon.
00:13:50.680 We're just signing a deal with the UAE saying we should invest $7 billion into our economy at some point.
00:13:56.260 At some point, or $70 billion.
00:13:58.020 An absurd amount of money that there's no timeline for when that will be invested.
00:14:01.240 But probably Carney just begged for them to give him some good news.
00:14:04.960 Even now, he's announced a new pipeline, potentially, with Daniel Smith.
00:14:09.940 But it's not a new pipeline.
00:14:11.060 It's a memorandum of understanding, which is the most Mark Carney thing I've ever heard in my life.
00:14:15.940 And it doesn't actually mean we're going to get a pipeline.
00:14:17.760 Because the other little snag here is that he set up the standard that he'll say yes to a pipeline if it's privately funded, the provinces are on board, and the indigenous are on board.
00:14:29.660 Which means no.
00:14:31.100 I've said that basically what Carney is doing, and maybe it's smart politics, is he is outsourced saying no.
00:14:36.760 It's not him saying no to the pipeline project.
00:14:38.780 He's saying yes.
00:14:39.440 He's saying yes all day long.
00:14:41.040 But, oh, you know, the Wet'suwet'en don't want it, or the Cowichan don't want it, or this other tribe over here doesn't want it. 0.96
00:14:48.480 Oh, and David Eby also said no.
00:14:50.620 So I'm saying yes.
00:14:51.740 I'm saying yes all day long.
00:14:52.980 But David Eby's saying no.
00:14:54.400 So I can't break my promise.
00:14:56.420 I told him I wouldn't force a pipeline on him.
00:14:58.800 Now, maybe Carney does cut through all that.
00:15:00.720 Maybe politically for him it'd actually be smart to approve literally any pipeline just to say that I'm a pro-pipeline guy.
00:15:06.920 But I don't really see it being a sure thing that he would ever say yes and actually get a pipeline in the ground.
00:15:13.620 Because he can just pretend that he's in favor of a pipeline and then just keep outsourcing the blame to other people for not getting it done,
00:15:20.440 even though they have no authority to actually stop the project.
00:15:23.100 It is a federal government authority in order to bypass the provinces for interprovincial issues.
00:15:31.000 If you want to build a pipeline from Alberta to Ontario or to Quebec, technically none of those governments can say no
00:15:36.760 because they have no right to stop another province from trading outside of their own borders.
00:15:41.200 That's the Canadian government's authority to give you permission to build something like that.
00:15:45.420 But again, Carney and the Liberals and previously Trudeau and the Liberals love to pretend that all these were insurmountable barriers that they couldn't get around.
00:15:53.680 Anyways, that should be it for me today, guys.
00:15:56.700 Thank you for watching the video.
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