The National Telegraph - Wyatt Claypool - June 26, 2026


Carney Caught LYING about Talking To Trump About Trade Issues!


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00:00:00.000 Hey guys, Wyatt Claypool here, and welcome back to the National Telegraph YouTube channel.
00:00:06.460 One of the things that former Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is still much better at than
00:00:12.040 Mark Carney is lying. 0.96
00:00:14.640 Mark Carney is a terrible liar, and it's because he's a deeply insecure man who wants 0.99
00:00:20.900 everybody to like him. 0.97
00:00:22.780 Justin Trudeau is sort of insecure, but not in the same way as Mark Carney.
00:00:27.620 Trudeau only ever cared if woke people liked him.
00:00:31.060 Carney wants everybody to like him, so he constantly changes his stories,
00:00:36.320 making it impossible for him to lie well,
00:00:39.360 because he will completely contradict something he said the previous day the next day,
00:00:44.180 simply trying to triangulate his position to something that is going to please everybody,
00:00:49.860 which is absolutely impossible.
00:00:52.220 Today, I need to show you guys an absolutely wild lie that Carney told,
00:00:56.820 because of how obvious it was over the current Trump trade situation. But before I get into
00:01:02.200 the video, I just want to remind you guys, if you like the show, make sure to leave a like on the
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00:01:14.900 on the YouTube algorithm. Check out this edit that my friend Kirk Lubomov made this morning,
00:01:21.120 noticing Carney's changing positions on trade with the United States from two days ago and then
00:01:28.120 just yesterday. The clip on top is from Carney two days ago, and the clip on the bottom is from him
00:01:34.620 just yesterday. This change in position happened about, I think, within 24 hours, if not a little
00:01:42.540 bit more than 24 hours of each other. Also, I mean, you spoke a lot about your call being about
00:01:47.540 middle east how much did kuzma play a role in in your call we we didn't discuss uh we didn't
00:01:53.540 discuss kuzma why you didn't raise kuzma with the president when you spoke to him and when you plan
00:01:59.140 to uh i raised i raised issues around messages uh is clear um but thank you for your question i raised
00:02:07.620 this i raised kuzma with the president um i have multiple excuse me multiple interactions with the
00:02:14.420 president uh you can even tell he's telling the truth on top and then he's lying on the bottom 0.94
00:02:21.140 because again carney is a bad liar and he has a very obvious tell he becomes the machine gun that
00:02:27.860 produces ums and ahs whenever he's lying so up there he's asked did kuzma get brought up and 0.89
00:02:34.340 he says no kuzma did not get brought up and then when a reporter asks him citing what he had said
00:02:39.620 the previous day, he tries to correct the record, saying, no, no, no, I brought up Kuzma. We brought
00:02:48.020 up things around Kuzma. It's like, dude, you could have said that yesterday. It's almost like
00:02:53.700 Mark Carney is lying. The reason he also has not been bringing up Kuzma to Donald Trump is because
00:03:00.760 Mark Carney is scared of Donald Trump for a lot of more personal reasons than real reasons.
00:03:09.360 He's not scared of Trump the way that liberal Canadians are scared that Trump's going to annex the country.
00:03:15.380 He's scared of Trump as somebody that Carney imagines as some sort of boorish, non-sophisticate.
00:03:22.660 And he is terrified of the possibility that if he actually gets into a room with Trump and discusses a trade deal, that he will lose.
00:03:32.000 and then he, Mark Carney, the magnificent, the wise, the sophisticate, is going to be outdone 0.97
00:03:39.020 by the pathetic, boorish, non-sophisticate. That is why we can't get a trade deal. That is as far 0.98
00:03:46.500 as it goes. And now I want to actually just quickly play a clip of Mark Carney talking
00:03:51.940 about trade in the longer form answer he gave yesterday, because his answers on trade have
00:03:59.340 just been absolutely terrible. Every time the topic gets brought up, you can just tell more
00:04:06.620 and more that we're never going to get a deal because he's too, it's all deflecting. It's all
00:04:11.640 deflecting and then trying to make himself seem in control. And he doesn't realize he has to give
00:04:17.620 up a little bit of control if you actually want to get a deal done. But that's just not his
00:04:21.100 personality. That's not his management style. Just look at the liberals leaking on him for being a
00:04:25.600 Oli.
00:04:26.320 TV News, Hi, Prime Minister.
00:04:27.780 There are a lot of people listening to you who work in industries that are hard hit by American tariffs.
00:04:32.680 And I'm wondering what you would say to them about why you didn't raise Kuzma with the president when you spoke to him and when you planned to.
00:04:39.980 I raise issues around messages is clear.
00:04:45.420 But thank you for your question.
00:04:47.000 I raise this.
00:04:48.220 I raise Kuzma with the president.
00:04:50.900 I have multiple, excuse me, multiple interactions with the president.
00:04:54.880 uh the discussion i had with the president which he initiated uh two days ago uh was with
00:05:02.440 the security included the security and uh military senior military personnel of the u.s it was very
00:05:09.880 specific discussion around security issues uh and then geo strategic issues that related to those
00:05:15.960 security issues there's a time and a place for that discussion he's just babbling about nothing
00:05:23.180 he's always having to sound smart before he actually gets to a real point we're talking
00:05:28.500 about security issues geostrategic strategic security issues and it's like okay well this
00:05:35.100 sounds like a lot of kuzma talk that you did not disclose previously either it didn't happen
00:05:42.260 or it did happen but now he's saying well no no i didn't talk about it trump talked about it i'm
00:05:46.760 like that's not that's not getting you out of the lie you said it didn't come up i didn't bring it
00:05:53.080 up. We didn't talk about it. And then now you're saying, oh, well, when I said that, I mean that
00:05:58.000 Trump was the one who brought it up. So you did talk about it. So how'd that go? Well,
00:06:02.520 a geostrategic, we talked about the security issues and stuff, messaging around Kuzma.
00:06:12.000 It's like, can you actually say what they asked for? Because Carney has been trying to operate
00:06:17.280 in like a bubble of no information that he is able to get away with sucking on trade because
00:06:23.000 you don't know what's going on in the room. But don't worry, things are going well in there.
00:06:27.440 It's like the scene in the movie, what was it, like Johnny English or whatever, where he's trying
00:06:33.360 to pretend to fight himself in another room. That's effectively what Carney's doing. I'm in
00:06:38.120 there. I'm contending for Canadians. He's not talking to Trump. The Carney liberals are never
00:06:43.560 actually doing anything to move the ball downfield, on security especially. The thing is that
00:06:49.660 Canada's effectively trying to fake increasing national security defense spending in order to
00:06:55.380 please the Americans, when in fact, all we did was effectively raise salaries and then make some
00:07:01.020 commitments to investing in like equipment later on, better procurement or more procurement later
00:07:07.360 on. We actually haven't budged on that issue. And that's the problem is that Carney doesn't have the
00:07:13.100 ability to actually negotiate with Trump on this. And he keeps making the narrative like, oh, Trump
00:07:17.960 the americans are chasing us no he's not remember we saw him get caught on a hot mic running up to
00:07:23.120 trump at the g7 round table to try and justify his china ev deal because in fact cardi cares more
00:07:30.400 about maintaining his china ev deal than he cares about getting the tariffs off of canadians
00:07:35.460 this is how this is his priorities are completely out of whack um we are uh in active uh discussions
00:07:44.440 with the U.S. Minister LeBlanc will be meeting in a tripartite meeting on July 1st with Ambassador
00:07:53.760 Greer and Secretary Abad of Mexico. Oh and by the way Mexico has been calling out Canada the fact
00:08:02.540 that we're not at any trade negotiating tables. We have not been at a single meeting. I sometimes
00:08:09.840 accidentally call her Gloria Scheinbaum. It's Claudia Scheinbaum. Claudia Scheinbaum has
00:08:14.680 actually been doing a far better job on trade than Canada has. She's been doing a far better
00:08:20.820 job than Mark Carney. The Mexican economy is weaker than both the Canadian and American
00:08:27.840 economies. Obviously, it's weaker than the American. And yet, they're playing better trade 0.51
00:08:32.360 hardball than Canada is because she's willing to take risks to get what she wants. Carney will 1.00
00:08:39.560 take no risks. That is his thing. He likes to pretend that I've dealt with Donald Trump before
00:08:44.900 when he's running for the Liberal Party leadership. But then when he's actually
00:08:49.040 leader, he is too busy. He's too terrified of risking his reputation he's built up as like the
00:08:54.540 Trump whisperer, the man who can get under Trump's skin and get what he wants, that he refuses to
00:08:59.140 actually talk to him at all. And yes, the Mexicans are effectively mocking Canada in the media for 0.69
00:09:05.400 being mia in all the discussions if we're there on a july first meeting it will be the first meeting 0.56
00:09:10.600 that we've actually been with the americans and mexicans at the same time in probably like a year
00:09:15.800 and those discussions continue i will be seeing the president um in uh in nato in a few weeks um
00:09:22.120 so look we are fighting for those industries but what the other core message apart from the direct
00:09:27.960 support that we're giving to the industry helping them to reposition it's called subsidies we are
00:09:33.320 subsidizing our industries. We're not cutting taxes and regulations and making it easier to
00:09:37.780 operate in Canada. There's no glory in that for Mark Carney. He doesn't get to go to a ribbon
00:09:42.240 cutting, doesn't have the industry hosting him to thank him for the support. Maybe he just cuts
00:09:47.160 their taxes and regulations and makes it easier for them to operate on their own. That is the
00:09:51.440 problem with him. Everything is always a subsidy. It is always, or it's a direct regulatory cutout
00:09:58.320 only for a few people that is how his economy works because the he's a corporatist he's not
00:10:04.640 actually a capitalist he's not a free market guy he is a corporatist socialist everything yes it
00:10:11.440 still says you know mike's like steel company on the front of the building but effectively is going
00:10:18.080 to get you to follow his priorities by making it impossible to operate without the government by
00:10:23.600 making them follow your quotas and their trade priorities that is what mark carney is doing
00:10:30.080 trump i don't like a lot of his trade ideas overall but overall at least domestically inside
00:10:35.840 the economy it's easy to operate that's how they are weathering the storm of their own tariffs
00:10:41.440 better than we are because we are a mixed socialistic economy and they are a free market
00:10:47.920 economy more than we are for any eventuality um is that what we're not going to do is to accept
00:10:55.920 a deal that damages those industries right there as i said yesterday uh there are bad deals that
00:11:05.280 have been on the table uh for those industries uh for months uh and we're fighting for those
00:11:11.920 industries not uh not accepting what comes in that's such a weak talking point well you know
00:11:17.680 See, the reason I'm failing is actually because I just care so much.
00:11:22.720 It's like some cheating husband being like, well, I only was unfaithful because I love
00:11:28.260 you so much.
00:11:30.460 I'm not actually fighting for you and doing anything to try and save the industry from
00:11:35.360 the current 100% or 25% and 50% tariffs.
00:11:39.820 I'm not fighting to try and get them off.
00:11:41.980 I'm not actually getting to the negotiating table.
00:11:43.720 But it's just because I like you guys so much.
00:11:45.660 I just want to protect you so hard right now. Cut taxes? What are you talking about? Taxes?
00:11:52.220 I'm not cutting taxes. But I will not go to trade meetings because by not going to them,
00:12:00.860 I'm actually symbolizing that I only want the best for you. I only want perfection for you.
00:12:05.740 That's why I'm not doing anything for you because I want perfection. I'm not going to bother doing
00:12:10.220 anything unless it's perfect. It's like, dude, shut up. You're not trying. That's the problem. 0.99
00:12:17.800 You are scared of Trump. Oh, the deals might have hurt the industry. Is it hurting the industry
00:12:23.540 more than the current tariffs? Now, obviously, we don't want to sign a bad deal that permanently
00:12:28.800 locks us into like, rather than 50% tariffs, they're 45% tariffs, and they're going to be
00:12:34.120 around for the next 20 years. Sure, bad deal. Really doubt that's what's being offered. And
00:12:39.740 I think that whatever is being offered, if it's mediocre for Canada, probably because on things
00:12:45.160 like supply management and China EVs, Carney is completely unwilling to budge. And as Michael
00:12:51.500 Kovrig has been pointing out in the media, our current EV deal with the Chinese is awful. They 1.00
00:12:59.060 are only having to remove tariffs on seafood and canola for like a year. And we need to allow them
00:13:04.500 to trade EVs into Canada at increasing rates,
00:13:09.060 I believe to like five to eight years
00:13:10.600 until that agreement gets renewed.
00:13:12.740 So they get to chip in tens of thousands of vehicles every year.
00:13:16.140 And they might, they might not reimpose canola tariffs
00:13:19.620 after the one year mark of the agreement.
00:13:22.560 Like what?
00:13:23.760 That doesn't even make any sense.
00:13:25.460 Why wouldn't we have it be mutual
00:13:27.420 that they take off their tariffs for five years
00:13:29.800 and we allow them to trade EVs in for five years? 1.00
00:13:33.600 That's stupid. 0.99
00:13:34.340 I don't even want their EVs in the first place because China's not a normal market actor. 1.00
00:13:38.960 They steal IP. 1.00
00:13:40.140 They steal patents.
00:13:41.240 They produce cheaper stuff because they didn't have to do the R&D to make the stuff that
00:13:45.360 they're making.
00:13:46.480 But what do I know?
00:13:47.280 I'm not a genius sophisticate like Mark Carney is.
00:13:50.680 I just don't get the genius, guys.
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