The National Telegraph - Wyatt Claypool - August 23, 2025


Carney in DECLINE- Liberals fumbled trade situation!


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40 minutes

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440

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Summary

It's safe to say that the political honeymoon for Prime Minister Mark Carney is officially coming to a close. It doesn't mean that he still won't have a decent approval rating, or the Liberals won't lead the Tories in the polls, but it will become much harder for the Liberals as this artificial wave of goodwill wears off.


Transcript

00:00:00.440 Hey guys, Wyatt Claypool here. I think it's safe to say at this point that the political
00:00:05.980 honeymoon for Prime Minister Mark Carney is officially coming to a close. It doesn't mean
00:00:11.880 that he still won't have a decent approval rating or the Liberals won't be able to lead
00:00:16.900 the Conservatives in the polls, but it's going to become much harder for the Liberals as
00:00:21.540 this artificial wave of goodwill wears off, and it's wearing off much faster than it
00:00:27.100 has for previous Prime Ministers or re-elected governments, because the Liberals have been
00:00:32.860 messing up so badly in the past three months. Not that every little screw-up is cataclysmic,
00:00:39.620 but it's just been dumb decision after dumb decision, stupid stumbles here and there,
00:00:44.560 just unforced errors that, even to the elbows-up crowd, have been making it seem like maybe
00:00:50.280 Carney isn't the man with the plan. Maybe he isn't the man to lead us through a crisis,
00:00:54.580 because I have no clue what he's doing week to week. And I think the things that put the nail
00:01:00.080 in the coffin for the honeymoon were the Air Canada fiasco, and now Carney calling up Trump
00:01:06.000 and reducing reciprocal tariffs trying to get to a trade deal, because these are some very
00:01:11.880 not-so-elbows-up things. And by the way, we should be attempting to make a deal with the Americans
00:01:18.000 and President Trump, but the way that the Liberals are going about it makes Canada look really weak,
00:01:23.560 and we could have done this months ago, because what we ended up doing is just reducing our
00:01:29.840 reciprocal tariffs, eliminating a bunch of them, in order just to get the Americans to talk to us
00:01:35.520 again. This is exactly what happened with the digital services tax. We implemented the tax out
00:01:42.000 of nowhere that even the Biden administration was saying that we shouldn't do, and then what ends up
00:01:48.240 happening is that we then have to rescind it just to get Trump to come back to the table after he
00:01:53.620 left saying, well, I thought we were negotiating to lower tariffs, and then you basically put
00:01:57.580 a tariff on American big tech companies out of nowhere. And same thing just happened now. We have
00:02:03.320 to drop a bunch of tariffs just to get the Americans to pay attention to us so that we can't actually
00:02:07.920 lower these tariffs in order to gain some leverage so that they lower their tariffs. We gave them
00:02:13.720 something just so they would talk to us again. But anyways, I want to get into a little more detail
00:02:19.300 on what's going on inside the Liberal camp, how they're trying to spin this, and how I don't believe
00:02:24.020 it's going to work. But before I get into it, I just want to remind you guys, if you like the show,
00:02:28.980 make sure to leave a like on this video, subscribe if you are not yet a subscriber, and leave a comment
00:02:34.500 on what you think about the situation. And then I would also like to mention that if you live in
00:02:39.760 British Columbia around the Abbotsford area, we are having our inaugural town hall for the
00:02:45.720 1BC party in Abbotsford September 13th. I will be there if you just want to swing by and say hi
00:02:51.780 and learn about the 1BC party. We are basically trying to not only take on the BC NDP, but also
00:02:58.520 the Greens and the Conservatives. We are out to beg the whole crowd and actually bring real reform to
00:03:03.800 the province because apparently the BC Conservatives lost interest in actually being Conservative a few
00:03:09.280 months ago. But anyways, now let's get on to the show and talk about how Carney and the Liberals are
00:03:16.100 trying to spin this. So this was a post on the Prime Minister's own X account, and it reads,
00:03:23.040 throughout our negotiations with the United States, the objectives of Canada's new government
00:03:27.380 have been consistent. Protect Canadian workers and their families, reinforce the competitiveness
00:03:32.720 of Canadian businesses, and build the strongest economy in the G7.
00:03:37.820 The thing about this that's already kind of annoying to me is he says build the strongest
00:03:43.000 economy in the G7. I thought we already had that because under both Trudeau and when Carney first
00:03:48.220 became Prime Minister, they kept quoting the fact that, well, you know, Canada has the strongest growth
00:03:53.260 in the G7 when they're just talking about raw GDP and our actual GDP per capita has been going down
00:03:58.960 for several quarters in a row. But I want to get to some other parts of that statement. He's saying that
00:04:04.980 we need to protect Canadian workers. Well, that's kind of contradicted by how they behaved in the
00:04:11.340 Air Canada situation. And by the way, I actually sympathize with both Air Canada and the flight
00:04:17.260 attendants. It's a bad system. And it's a bad system because of government taxes and regulations,
00:04:23.300 which is hilarious, because right after saying he wants to protect Canadian workers and their families,
00:04:27.800 he then says reinforce the competitiveness of Canadian businesses.
00:04:31.100 Canadian businesses are not competitive. Why do you think Air Canada operates with a 5.7% profit
00:04:37.980 margin and flight attendants cannot be paid unless the plane is actually in transit? Yes, flight
00:04:44.200 attendants are paid like $90 an hour while the flight's in transit. But with all the downtime,
00:04:48.760 it ends up making it not as worth it as you would think. So we had that whole situation basically spurred
00:04:54.880 on by terrible federal and provincial government policy. Some provinces also have high corporate
00:05:00.620 tax rates that hurt the airlines. But it's bad. We have an uncompetitive economy. That's why we have
00:05:08.420 these situations where workers aren't being paid very well. And the companies are not exactly profiting
00:05:12.900 hand over fist. And so and so I think this just whole thing just reads as very weak. Again, he's like
00:05:20.000 throughout the negotiations with the United States. What do you mean that throughout the negotiations,
00:05:24.740 the negotiations kept stopping because we weren't protecting Canadian workers, we weren't trying to
00:05:29.560 defend them from the tariffs, we would show up in the negotiations. And from the readouts that we got
00:05:34.500 from people like Howard Lutnick and President Donald Trump himself, it sounded like the Canadian
00:05:39.680 negotiators were not even really negotiating, they'd show up and say we're like PB&J, we're better
00:05:44.540 together, we should not have tariffs. And they're like, Okay, well, what are you willing to offer us?
00:05:48.620 Nothing. And then the negotiations break down. And Trump basically said, Well, negotiations,
00:05:53.640 I don't even know that there is any negotiating going on. And then that's when everything ended
00:05:57.600 after August 1. And now we're crawling back, not because Carney realizes that we probably should be
00:06:03.080 like, you know, working more closely with the United States that we should try and negotiate some
00:06:07.500 sort of win win solution to all this. It's because he needs a political win before the summer closes out
00:06:12.540 because it's been a bad summer. That's all you can say about it. Cataclysmically bad?
00:06:17.040 Maybe not. But enough. It's been bad enough to hurt his honeymoon. His honeymoon is over because of
00:06:23.840 things like not having a budget, being $92 billion in the red with the deficit, having Bill C-5 pass
00:06:31.840 the Major Projects Act, but then immediately promising every single indigenous group that he's
00:06:36.660 not actually going to hammer through major projects like pipelines. And he's having premiers quit on him
00:06:41.520 left and right saying that they're actually not going to approve a pipeline. So that's dead.
00:06:44.660 Maybe he'll get one through, and I would like it if he got one through, but I'm not that confident.
00:06:49.260 He has a very minor tax cut he's trying to pass, and that's it. And now his cabinet's full of a
00:06:54.500 bunch of incompetent people. Housing minister had record high increases in housing prices when he was
00:06:59.460 the mayor of Vancouver. Our public safety minister, Gary Amasangari, doesn't even know what a gun
00:07:04.520 license is. It's just not being done well. We're recognizing a Palestinian terror state, and yes, Gaza being run by
00:07:11.560 Hamas and the West Bank being run by the Palestinian Authority and Fatah is in fact a terror state. I
00:07:17.300 don't know what else would be if those weren't. But regardless, yeah, it's not been a great summer,
00:07:22.240 and that's why we are approaching the Americans. And then the liberals released the video of him
00:07:27.200 talking. For the life of me, why? If you, maybe there's just a comedian in the liberal staff,
00:07:34.420 why would you ever release a video, if you're in the liberal party, of Carney talking about what he's
00:07:41.780 doing here? The video starts out with him just with the most disappointed face on the planet.
00:07:47.820 It's like someone served him Merlot and he asked for Cabernet Sauvignon. He looks just unhappy. And
00:07:55.140 this is the face that we are putting on announcing this is some big win, as if it's not us crawling back
00:08:02.120 and trying to make a deal that we should have made three months ago from a far weaker position than
00:08:07.300 we used to be. Let's be absolutely clear. Canada currently has the best trade deal with the United
00:08:17.500 States. That's apparently why we need to renegotiate right now. And while it's different
00:08:24.660 from what we had before, it is still better than that of any other country.
00:08:33.120 So as we work to address outstanding trade issues with the United States, it's important,
00:08:38.340 it's vital. We do everything we can to preserve this unique advantage for Canadian workers,
00:08:44.720 Canadian businesses.
00:08:46.040 You know what he's doing here when he's talking about we need to, I don't think we need to watch
00:08:50.140 on anymore with that. When he's talking about how we need to preserve this unique advantage,
00:08:55.180 this unique trade relationship with the United States, he's setting the goalposts for himself
00:09:01.100 so low. It is so easy for him to score on this net because all he has to do is not have USMCA go up in
00:09:09.440 flames, which was never going to happen. So he's basically patting himself on the back for waking
00:09:15.020 up on the morning and breathing in oxygen and exhaling carbon dioxide. He doesn't know what
00:09:21.540 he's talking about, acting like, oh, well, we I'm trying to walk the tightrope and make sure that
00:09:27.640 while we while we deal with these excess issues, we don't ruin the great trade deal that we currently
00:09:32.060 have. That was never in question. The whole point is cleaning up around the edges in which we can do
00:09:38.680 by potentially putting supply management on the table or fixing some other policy issues
00:09:43.100 elsewhere. And then we can ask the US to drop their tariffs, hopefully down to zero. And by the
00:09:49.160 way, no one actually be really good. I saw David Eby, the premier British Columbia, tweet out with
00:09:54.840 us yesterday, like, oh, well, you know, we need to we need to get a deal so that we can get, you know,
00:09:59.680 the economic damage being done to Canadian workers can be like erased. It's like, you're the main reason
00:10:05.080 why Canadians suffer in British Columbia. It's your provincial government taxes and regulations.
00:10:09.820 Same thing on a federal level. It's like all these people who are pretending like Donald Trump
00:10:13.960 is the one who did the most damage to the Canadian economy over the past 10 years
00:10:17.880 is delusional. It's the Canadian government and the provincial governments for the most part
00:10:22.540 who have been making life more difficult for Canadians. I'm not also not sure if I mentioned
00:10:27.280 earlier for that Abbotsford event on the 13th of September. There's a link description below
00:10:31.740 comments at the top. I was thinking about that and it was bothering me if I actually mentioned that
00:10:35.700 or not. So sign up if you want to come and say hi to me and join 1BC. But I want to move on now
00:10:41.220 on this issue to the kind of reaction that we've seen online to a lot of this. Both the coat from
00:10:47.880 liberals saying, no, no, no, he's actually, Carney is totally consistent on this issue. And then also
00:10:54.700 the people who are actually slagging him, including, actually, let's start off with this one, because I
00:11:00.000 find this one funny. He's getting attacked by NDP, Premier of Manitoba, Wab Kanu, who was typically
00:11:08.980 supposed to be seen as like an ally of Mark Carney. And this is from the CBC Manitoba. And it says,
00:11:15.220 is this elbows down? Manitoba Premier questions Carney's removal of retaliatory tariffs. And his
00:11:21.640 quote here is saying, quote, I'm not a fan of this move. Is this elbows down? I think Canadians want to
00:11:26.820 see a stronger response to Donald Trump, Kanu said. And so yeah, Carney's put himself in the worst
00:11:32.920 possible position. The expectations from his own base, or from the left side of his base, were sky
00:11:39.860 high. And then he delivered, like not, he hasn't been good enough to actually make a deal fast. I
00:11:46.660 would have been happy if he was in the Oval Office, and he says, well, after the cameras turn off, I want
00:11:51.260 to sign a deal with you right now for a, on a trade deal. And the US should have a very open
00:11:56.280 relationship because we, although we are two separate countries, are one big economy, that
00:12:01.420 would have been a good thing. And I would have given him praise for it. But after that friendly
00:12:04.800 Oval Office meeting, he didn't follow up on it. And then the trade deal died. And now he's trying
00:12:08.320 to revive it. And he's having to put things on the table just to revive the talks. And so he's like,
00:12:14.680 like the Air Canada situation, pick the worst of both worlds. Should the flight attendants been
00:12:19.420 forced back to work? Sure. At the same time, drop corporate taxes, or at least drop corporate
00:12:24.280 taxes specifically for airlines, and then tell the airlines that they must start paying at the flight
00:12:28.420 attendants more on the spot, but you will make it much easier for them to pay them better. That would
00:12:34.060 have actually been the real solution, but he took the worst possible solution. He looked like he was
00:12:37.720 doing things on behalf of Air Canada as like a stooge for them, forced the flight attendants back, and
00:12:42.760 just kind of vaguely said that maybe we should try and fix the deal for them. It just made him look
00:12:47.740 terrible. But now I want to go to some of the more like online or not online content. We'll start off
00:12:54.100 with Pierre Pauly of here first on his reaction to what Mark Carney has done here with this trade deal
00:13:02.200 being kind of, I guess, brought back.
00:13:04.880 By now, 160 days in, we'd have new markets, new projects to get our goods overseas so that we could
00:13:13.220 negotiate a deal. And you asked me whether I would have, my goal would be to have tariffs gone
00:13:18.320 on both sides of the border. I would have gone to the president respectfully and said,
00:13:23.120 you really, you remove your tariffs, we remove ours. Let's sign a, an agreement that restores the
00:13:30.840 great free trading relationship that our two countries had for decades and that worked for
00:13:36.000 both nations. That is what Prime Minister Carney promised during the election. And that's what I
00:13:40.860 would have delivered in his place. Now there's people denying that Carney promised this. And
00:13:46.600 people can say, well, he never said it in literal words that he was going to get this kind of an
00:13:51.020 outcome. But the problem is, is that when it was like, it's like saying, well, he never promised to
00:13:57.180 put out a budget. Okay, but when you're the man with the plan who can guide us through a crisis,
00:14:01.840 and you know how to deal with Donald Trump and all this other rhetoric that Carney's using.
00:14:04.780 Come on, the implication is that you got you have, you know, a portfolio of stuff you want to,
00:14:11.540 you want to get done right away. And you're going to go down to Washington and get this thing solved
00:14:15.100 fast. And all the and all and all like the flipping around and fussing around with nonsense.
00:14:20.860 No, he doesn't have a plan. But we have this Mark Levesque here saying, there is absolutely no basis
00:14:27.100 to the view that Pierre Polyev or anybody else for that matter could have done better in dealing with a
00:14:32.020 psycho. And the fact that he would likely have been catering to the pro-Trumpers, who are more
00:14:37.080 than 40% of it makes base makes me even more skeptical. Sorry, do pro-Trump conservatives want
00:14:46.140 the tariffs to remain? I don't think so. I'm not sure where what planet Mark Levesque lives on. And
00:14:53.100 this man used to be like some sort of a policy advisor, I believe. What was he? Former chief
00:14:58.740 economist at the public sector pension investment board. So a man who shouldn't have shouldn't be
00:15:04.860 having low IQ takes is having a very low IQ one here. Say, oh, anyone else would have done as bad
00:15:10.220 as Carney did. Sorry, what Polyev just described, and you could say, well, maybe Polyev wouldn't have
00:15:15.560 done it. Well, he can claim whatever he wants right now, because he's not the one screwing up.
00:15:20.380 But but Polyev at least described actually trying to like, you know, directly engage, get this thing
00:15:25.180 done, make this a top priority. And Carney's acted like this is like some back burner thing he'll get
00:15:29.980 to when he wants to, which, again, like he's been really giving a workout to the elbows up people
00:15:36.240 because he's been making them throw them up and down every other week saying, oh, we're working
00:15:40.640 with the U.S. He's like having a friendly meeting with the U.S. And then I'm going to throw in
00:15:43.680 counter tariffs back. So I dropped the counter tariffs halfway through the election without telling
00:15:47.340 anybody. And when we didn't get to a deal, it's OK. But are we going to raise are we going to raise
00:15:52.840 our tariffs when the U.S. raised them to 35 percent? Well, no. So he's like it's been
00:15:57.040 Carney somehow finds that he triangulates with his star maps and with his telescopes and charts
00:16:04.460 trying to find he brings out his sextants and finds the most stupid position he can find on any
00:16:10.760 issue so that everyone hates him equally. I need to jump over now to just, again, the sheer amount of
00:16:17.360 people who are very upset about everything that's been going on with Mark Carney on this issue and all
00:16:22.820 the people trying to defend him. This is a great one.
00:16:29.320 I really like this guy's take on it.
00:16:33.120 Brian Bateson said, after Carney's latest surrender to Trump, liberal hacks are frantically trying to
00:16:39.800 explain why the entire liberal election campaign was based on one big lie to Canadians. It is
00:16:45.580 irrelevant whether de-escalation is the correct negotiating strategy. And I agree with that. I
00:16:49.740 actually think we should be de-escalating, but it's more the lie. But Brian here goes on to say,
00:16:56.020 the liberals spent the last eight months saying the opposite and accused anyone who disagreed with
00:17:01.260 them of being a traitor to the country. And now after telling the electorate they would be elbows
00:17:05.800 up until victory, they are on their knees before Trump surrendering without gaining a single
00:17:10.460 concession to the benefit of Canada. There was indeed a national betrayal, a betrayal of voters by the
00:17:15.540 useless liberal government. And he's responding to this individual who's saying,
00:17:19.740 Pierre Polyev appears to define handling Trump as taking him on aggressively. The American and global
00:17:25.880 landscape is littered with casualties of that approach. The reason I believe Carney is best
00:17:31.600 equipped to handling U.S.-Canada trade and other relations is that he understands the mix of
00:17:36.740 economics, finance, and business trade and diplomacy that the task requires. He seeks common ground
00:17:43.700 agreement rather than pouring gasoline on a fire. This situation does not call for Polyev's pugilism,
00:17:49.100 far from it. I love that we have liberals out here like this Rick Anderson person. Is he anyone of
00:17:56.040 note? Doesn't really matter to me. Just some political guy. But the idea like Polyev appears
00:18:03.200 to define handling Trump as taking him on aggressively. No, no. Pierre defined it as taking him on directly.
00:18:11.440 You know, talking to him one-on-one, going to Washington, having meetings, trying to get to a
00:18:16.740 resolution as quickly as possible, putting things on the table, making, you know, making demands,
00:18:21.580 but also giving some concessions. You know, a bit of back and forth trying to create a win-win
00:18:25.440 scenario for both countries. That's not aggressive. You know, what was aggressive was the liberal
00:18:30.340 campaign of saying, our relationship with the U.S. is over. We're going to go off to Europe. We're going to
00:18:35.360 trade with Lithuania. We're going to, instead of doing stuff with the U.S., we're going to send more
00:18:42.180 stuff to Montenegro. We're going to trade more with, we're going to trade more with the Italian
00:18:46.940 island of Sardinia. That was the liberal approach, was pretending that we were just going to replace
00:18:51.960 the U.S. We're going to trade more with China. China doesn't even want to trade with us, apparently,
00:18:55.940 because they slapped a 75% tariff on our canola oil. But that was the liberal campaign. Elbows up.
00:19:02.260 What does elbows up mean other than aggression? It is literally an illegal hockey move.
00:19:07.580 What are you talking about? But let's get to some other people here. Some people mad at
00:19:14.220 Karni, again, some people trying to justify it. And I do agree with Rupa Supramania's take here,
00:19:22.140 who says, don't care for elbows up, down, stale jabs, but why were these self-harming tariffs in place
00:19:28.160 to begin with? And why weren't they lifted sooner? Why did it take the U.S. Ambassador
00:19:32.240 raising the issue on a podcast for it to get attention? And that was the thing that actually
00:19:37.860 happened. I believe the U.S. Ambassador Hoogstra went on Jasmine Lane's show and just brought up
00:19:44.680 actually that, in fact, a lot of the Canadian tariffs are currently higher on the U.S. than
00:19:48.860 they are on Canada. So it's a bit hypocritical as the Canadian officials are going around acting like
00:19:54.320 they've been attacked, especially since supply management tariffs have blocked American farmers
00:19:59.220 from sending dairy products or chicken into the country for decades now. And yeah, it's weird how
00:20:06.640 it's like the liberal government's only finding out the Americans are serious, or that maybe they
00:20:12.260 aren't entirely correct about the situation based on what gets posted on Twitter. They can talk to
00:20:17.960 them one-on-one. It's like they don't even have the information until someone else finds it for them.
00:20:21.880 This Roddy guy who's changed his name recently, Rob Favre as leader of a COLA, leader of COLA,
00:20:29.980 says, no ego just Canada. This is why I voted for Mark Carney. Apparently Rod here, who actually has
00:20:36.860 a very big account for a liberal anonymous influencer, apparently he voted for Mark Carney for the
00:20:43.060 constant flip-flopping. That's what Carney wanted out of this relationship. This, yeah, this is a funny
00:20:50.520 one. This guy named Canadian Politico says, the fact Polyev referred to Trump by his official title
00:20:56.760 and not Mark Carney as his official title tells you all that you need to know about him. This isn't
00:21:02.680 pathetic anymore. It ventures on traitorous and insulting. It's traitorous that Pierre Polyev says,
00:21:09.820 President Trump, and then he just says, Mark Carney. Yes, this is traitorous. Pierre Polyev should
00:21:17.000 be put into the stocks and have rotten fruit thrown at him because he didn't use the honorific for Mark
00:21:23.240 Carney, a man that very few people are, a lot of people are quickly learning to not respect.
00:21:29.480 And this is another post by Pierre Polyev outside of the press conference. He says,
00:21:35.200 no wonder President Trump wanted Mark Carney to win. Investment is pouring out of our country,
00:21:40.660 43 billion lost in three months, and 63 billion since Carney became prime minister.
00:21:46.420 And investment down, elbows up. And a lot of that investment is going to the United States. And
00:21:51.720 it says from the National Post, from our partners at Financial Post, post haste Canada suffering major
00:21:57.200 capital drain as foreign investors go MIA. And that's why we need to fix our current problems with
00:22:05.760 taxes. We have our taxes on a provincial and federal level and municipal are crazy high in
00:22:12.560 the country. Regulations are high. So as liberals pretend like our economic woes were from the American
00:22:19.320 tariffs, which even they will then say at the same time aren't hurting us that bad. It's in fact,
00:22:24.680 they can pretend all they want that all of our issues are over the southern border, but they are
00:22:28.960 in fact within our own borders. It's our bad immigration policy, economic policy, regulations.
00:22:34.900 Everything about this country is just repellent to foreign investment. And of course, I don't support
00:22:40.280 like China buying up mines and whatnot, or foreign buyers buying up houses and leaving them completely
00:22:46.580 empty in Vancouver. But we still want people investing in actual productive venture.
00:22:54.680 But of course, the liberal premier of Ontario, and I know he is technically the progressive
00:23:01.180 conservative, but he should really drop the conservative title from his party. By the way,
00:23:06.480 if you live in Ontario, go and join the new blue party. The PC party is a complete waste of time at
00:23:10.440 this point. Doug Ford says, I spoke with Prime Minister Mark Carney following his announcement to
00:23:15.980 stress the need for an agreement with the United States that provides relief to our tariff impacted
00:23:21.140 sectors, including steel, auto, forestry, and copper. If the federal government can't achieve
00:23:26.340 that, they need to hit back hard against the UF tariffs and provide additional support for the
00:23:31.000 workers and businesses in these sectors. And notice how Doug Ford, although the previous statement we
00:23:37.940 read was pretty short, he sounds a lot like Wob Canoe, that he thinks that we need to be more
00:23:43.720 aggressive on counter tariffs and that we need more support for workers, more subsidies.
00:23:49.100 This man is supposedly a conservative. And I think that anything you read from him,
00:23:54.840 even if it's not terrible, it's just not conservative.
00:23:57.520 And I just want to quickly jump over to another, I want to jump over to another question that
00:24:04.960 Polly have asked, answered at his, at his recent press conference. And I thought this was a good
00:24:11.080 jab at Carney when it comes to the current industrial carbon tax and Carney's supposed commitment to the
00:24:17.160 Canadian economy.
00:24:18.400 Mr. Polly, on steel and aluminum, the federal government has not yet matched the tariff rate
00:24:23.440 on steel and aluminum. The U.S.'s is currently at 50%, while ours is at 25%. Would you like to see
00:24:28.400 them raise that up to 50% and match the U.S.'s rate on steel and aluminum?
00:24:31.760 Well, my preference would be to see the Americans lower their tariffs so that we can reinstate free
00:24:37.000 trade. But one tariff that I will be cutting for sure, and I will push the Prime Minister to cut for
00:24:43.520 sure, on our steel and aluminum is the industrial carbon tax.
00:24:47.920 See, this is Pierre Polly of 2.0. And if he keeps this up and
00:24:53.040 actually runs a language like this in the next election, I'm 100% on board. I would vote yes on
00:25:00.240 a Pierre Polly of leadership review in Calgary. Hopefully, I'll be there as a delegate. But he
00:25:05.040 has been moving right on the right policies and has come to more conservative stances. I like that
00:25:11.520 his stance on this is now, no, it's not higher. We don't need like stronger counter tariffs. We need to
00:25:16.800 find a way of getting to no tariffs on both sides. There's no point in ratcheting up the tension when we
00:25:22.160 should be trying to find an off ramp right now. And yes, our main issue with costs in this country
00:25:27.600 is taxes on our own side of the border, like the industrial carbon tax that Carney now wants to
00:25:33.600 add into his new version of a tariff, a carbon border adjustment, which is an industrial carbon
00:25:39.840 tax on any goods entering the country from a country that does not have an industrial carbon tax
00:25:45.360 on the particular if it applies to the particular good that was produced. So any energy products
00:25:49.920 coming from another country or any products that have not been impacted by industrial carbon tax
00:25:55.520 must have it applied as soon as it comes into Canada. But I think Polly of by taking the low tax
00:26:01.360 position on this is taking the more conservative approach than the conservative campaign did in the
00:26:06.640 general election. I find it astonishing. Well, Donald, I understand Donald Trump's
00:26:11.840 priority is to bring to take Canadian jobs and move them to the United States. He's been very
00:26:17.680 blunt about that. What I don't understand is why Prime Minister Carney would help him do it
00:26:22.800 with an industrial carbon tax on our steel and aluminum products. So our workers are not only hit
00:26:29.680 with Trump tariffs, but with Carney's tax carbon tax, we need to get rid of the industrial carbon tax.
00:26:35.200 And if Mark Carney will adopt the Canadian Sovereignty Act, then that will include the
00:26:40.560 total elimination of the entire carbon tax, including for steel and aluminum.
00:26:46.480 And this is something I just thought of now. It's actually not, I hope it's not coincidental
00:26:54.000 that it was only a couple of weeks ago that I talked to someone on the Polly of team about this
00:27:00.000 particular stance, not exactly on the industrial carbon tax, but around taxes in general.
00:27:06.000 If you're the Liberals and you're pretending to be elbows up, you're all out for Canadians. You just
00:27:11.600 want to protect Canadians. Why are you taxing our own corporations into complete irrelevancy
00:27:18.160 compared to their American counterparts? We're uncompetitive because of our taxes. We should
00:27:22.640 lower, we should eliminate the industrial carbon tax. We should lower corporate taxes by 20, 25%.
00:27:28.080 And if the Liberals come back at you and say that, oh, well, you're the corporate guys,
00:27:32.720 you're just trying to serve the corporations. It's like, yes, because I'd rather have Canadian
00:27:37.680 corporations doing better Canadian businesses, small and large, than American businesses. I want
00:27:43.040 to outcompete them in friendly competition. Let's see who the best, may the best man win,
00:27:48.720 and we will just both, on both sides of the world, lower our taxes. Because I'd love for Canada and
00:27:53.200 the US to both be more powerful. Because guess what? That makes bad countries around the world, China,
00:27:59.200 Russia, Iran, North Korea, less powerful because they can't economically compete. I don't want communist
00:28:06.000 dictatorships doing well around the world. I don't want authoritarian post-Soviet states doing well.
00:28:12.880 And so how about we stop kneecapping ourselves and driving economic development out there?
00:28:18.640 But anyway, so this is great. I'm happy that hopefully the Conservatives liked the advice that
00:28:23.920 I gave them on that. Not that it's unique, but it's what needs to be done. Hopefully,
00:28:28.960 other people are echoing the same thing, honestly. Again, let's read some of these
00:28:35.760 more COPE posts from liberals now. So we have this GatorGum person. Again, you'll look at the
00:28:41.280 person's views and likes on their posts. They do pretty well for just throwing out random posts.
00:28:46.240 Oftentimes, these anonymous accounts have more influence than former politicians who tweet constantly
00:28:53.200 or even current politicians. This GatorGum person says right-wing Twitter needs to decide if they
00:28:58.640 support counter-tariffs or not because every time Carney makes an announcement about them,
00:29:03.120 they flip their opinion depending on what he has to say. And no, we do not. We have criticized how
00:29:10.000 weak this looks to say, oh, counter-tariffs on, counter-tariffs off. Let's negotiate. Actually,
00:29:14.960 let's not negotiate. That's what we're criticizing. It's the flip-flopping. And I don't like counter-tariffs.
00:29:20.400 It only hurts our own people. We should just be lowering tax on our side of the border and being
00:29:24.480 as competitive as possible. But again, we are criticizing the flip-flopping, the position
00:29:30.640 changes by Carney and his liberal government. And again, this is all contributing to a sense that
00:29:37.360 Carney doesn't really know what he's doing or he oversold himself, which is hurting him. It's going to
00:29:43.120 be ending his honeymoon. I think we are already going to see it end. We've already had abacus datas.
00:29:48.560 David Colleto announced that the poll he is releasing tomorrow for abacus is going to show
00:29:53.520 the conservatives marginally ahead. I assume that means it could only be like 0.3, 0.5%. But that's
00:29:59.920 significant. He hasn't had, even though he's a pollster that tends to show much tighter races
00:30:05.200 than other ones, although he also tends to be a much more realistic pollster, he hasn't had the
00:30:09.920 conservatives actually leading a poll since March. And now in August, after the liberals won,
00:30:16.080 and they should be in a honeymoon period and they should be on top of the world for an entire year
00:30:19.840 before everything starts, you know, usually the negativity starts up in a year when things haven't
00:30:24.480 been done as fast as people want. We're already seeing the conservatives overtake the liberals
00:30:29.120 in some polls, and it's only been a few months of them in office. But here now is this guy named
00:30:35.040 Peter Ratcliffe, forever Canadian. And again, some random guy, it's not like he's a famous politician,
00:30:41.120 but 3,400 likes. I don't think the man's using bots or anything. I think this is genuinely just
00:30:47.360 a lot of people agree with him online. But he says, it disturbs me that CBC, especially power in
00:30:54.960 politics, doesn't respect our prime minister when speaking about him. They use Carney a lot and not
00:31:00.000 Mark Carney. Well, I guess there's a point of pure poly of that other person said he, you know,
00:31:04.800 he's a traitor for not saying the honorific and just saying Mark Carney. So I guess the CBC is now
00:31:08.960 double traitors for just saying Carney. But he then goes to say, respectfully, please refer to him
00:31:14.720 as Prime Minister Carney or Prime Minister Mark Carney. Show respect. The guy, goodness. Guys,
00:31:24.800 just admit that you're embarrassed by what's been going on recently. That's really what you mean.
00:31:29.440 Things have been not going so hot for Carney, and now you're focusing on anything else. It's like all
00:31:34.640 the people who are attacking Polly of today, because let's be clear, Carney's not having a great week.
00:31:40.160 He's not having a great week. And so that's why you have people again, like here's another post from
00:31:44.400 GatorGum, coping really hard. We have Ryan Gerritsen here saying the elbows up slogan will haunt the
00:31:52.240 liberals forever. Whoever thought of it, I thank you. I love it. And GatorGum here says these guys
00:31:58.400 literally tweet all day about elbows and have no idea how ridiculous they actually look. They
00:32:03.840 think all parroting the same thing is actually clever, original, and a burn on Carney. Meanwhile,
00:32:10.080 it's the most ridiculous, predictable sheep behavior we've seen. Okay, well, it's predictable
00:32:16.800 people on right-wing Twitter would do this because the loss, the failure on Carney's part is so obvious,
00:32:24.480 so we're obviously all going to point it out. It's like, you know, we're not owned. We knew that you
00:32:29.840 were going to point and laugh at us when we fell on our faces. Parroting? Like, no. They talk about
00:32:36.640 elbows all day. They literally made, the liberals literally basically made their casual campaign
00:32:42.080 slogan. It wasn't like the official one, but like the kind of casual slogan of the campaign was elbows
00:32:46.160 up. So of course, the conservatives are going to use that as a punchline whenever they can.
00:32:51.760 Even the liberal papers will use it. Even lefties will say it. Wob Canu said, is this really elbows
00:32:58.400 up? Because obviously that's kind of a big, big thing with them is like, aren't you guys supposed
00:33:03.600 to be aggressive? And you're not being, or at least you like, you keep flip-flopping between being
00:33:07.600 aggressive and conciliatory and you're being conciliatory isn't even getting us anything because
00:33:12.080 you've done it so poorly. But GatorGum in another post says, there are a lot of people tweeting about
00:33:17.840 elbows and other ridiculous things right now, but nobody is articulating what they feel was weak or
00:33:23.040 wrong with today's announcement. Here are some particulars. So haters don't, so haters, why don't
00:33:28.080 you explain to us what you feel is bad here? And they go on to basically say that Canada was actually
00:33:33.520 had higher tariffs. Let's just read what they, what they think is really owning us all.
00:33:38.480 But here it says, while the move restores free trade on most of the goods traded between
00:33:43.360 the two countries, both Canada and the United States will continue to impose tariffs on each
00:33:47.280 other's steel, aluminum, copper, and vehicles, among other key products. This move matches
00:33:51.440 American policy as the United States has already exempted Canadian goods that fall under an existing
00:33:55.920 North America trade agreement. Okay, so the person's just admitting that Carney and the liberals were
00:34:01.840 doing something really antagonistic during the trade negotiations, which may explain why we didn't get
00:34:07.200 to a deal on August 1st, while the United States said, if any goods fall under USMCA, if you are
00:34:12.800 USMCA compliant, you will not have to pay a tariff. Whereas we were tariffing things that were even
00:34:18.160 supposed to be tariff free under USMCA. So we were kind of breaking that other trade agreement while the
00:34:24.160 US in imposing their 35% trade, they were still following the other rules on the products they said
00:34:29.920 would be exempted. So this person, I don't even know what their point is. It did look weak. We looked
00:34:36.320 like we basically got caught out because we were doing something that was actually antagonistic,
00:34:40.720 and we finally had to admit it. And then we just fell in line with what the United States was doing.
00:34:46.240 And by the way, things just being USMCA compliant still means that they cost more,
00:34:50.720 because there's a reason why, and I said this before in a lot of videos, there's a reason why
00:34:55.200 in 2024, only around 25-34% of products actually even bothered becoming USMCA compliant, because the tax
00:35:04.000 for not being USMCA compliant in the specific area, in the specific goods that it applied to,
00:35:10.880 wasn't really worth it for most companies. Like yeah, you pay 5-7% of the border for not being USMCA
00:35:16.000 compliant. But the cost of becoming USMCA compliant may cost you more than that 5-7%
00:35:23.360 tax that you're paying at the border, because you're gonna have to hire some people to do more
00:35:26.560 paperwork, you may have to source your labor from a different place, you may have to source materials
00:35:31.120 from a different place. So you know, for some companies, just pay the 5% extra and we'll move
00:35:35.760 on. And so we still are paying more in order to become compliant. But again, this person's just
00:35:41.440 missing the point and acting like, I don't even get their point. They're just flailing around.
00:35:46.880 Their post actually proves too much in a lot of ways. And we have Evan Scrimshaw here, a liberal
00:35:55.440 strategist saying, he's done about as well as anyone could reasonably expect in terrible conditions.
00:36:00.720 Carney's done a good job. There's still more to be done, but buying us time will be good in the long
00:36:05.760 run. Buying us time, it's taken longer because they didn't make a deal sooner. Now we're again,
00:36:11.760 we had to give up something just to get them to come back to the table, something that we maybe
00:36:15.200 shouldn't have done in the first place. But still, we're having to take it away just to talk again,
00:36:20.080 which means that we could have been talking a long time ago. But he goes on to say, and the damage
00:36:25.120 has been significantly ameliorated compared to what might have been. Well, what might have been
00:36:31.200 is Polly of being the Prime Minister and getting this solved earlier. And now we have Sherry DeNovo,
00:36:36.960 who is a former Ontario NDP MPP, who says, can someone explain to the average Canadian why eliminating
00:36:44.880 all of our regulatory tariffs and getting nothing concrete in return from Trump is a good thing?
00:36:50.160 Mark Carney, if he's counting on USMCA, I don't like saying the Kuzma. If he's counting on USMCA
00:36:56.640 remaining forever, good luck. Chamberlain much? So apparently now Carney is a traitor in the eyes
00:37:03.200 of the left. And we have here Jason Scott saying, I love this post because he's just responding to
00:37:09.280 this Jin Lehi guy who is a conservative influencer online who says, a list of Mark Carney's major
00:37:16.240 accomplishments since becoming Prime Minister. And it's a gift where a guy flips through a blank book,
00:37:20.720 of course. And Jason Scott, who is some unhinged leftist in Alberta, says, Carney could eradicate
00:37:27.440 cancer and these fringe CPC accounts would still be, it was still crap on Canada. Pierre's dependence
00:37:32.640 on these rage baiting influencers are a symptom of why he lost in 2025 and he will lose again.
00:37:38.640 Carney could eradicate cancer. Well, okay, well, how about he does his job properly
00:37:43.200 properly first? And then we can talk about him eradicating cancer. Let's have him get a budget
00:37:48.560 across the finish line. Let's have him do that before we start talking about him actually achieving
00:37:53.840 anything outside of government. Let's have an achievement inside of government first.
00:37:58.000 Everything so far has been mostly platitudes. It's been mostly things that are immaterial.
00:38:03.440 Bill C-5, the Get Stuff Done Major Projects Act, in which, well, we're going to have to wait years to
00:38:08.880 see if he even gets something done. And so far, it sounds like he's walking back and he promised to
00:38:13.200 actually get a pipeline built. But there's another person called A.B. Gamble, New Dawn for Canada,
00:38:18.720 says Prime Minister Carney needs to spend more time addressing Canadians and answering reporters
00:38:23.280 unvarnished questions. He demonstrates strength, intelligence, and resolve. Really? In that press
00:38:30.000 conference, he looked irritated, uncomfortable, and he brought out the um and ah parade when he
00:38:35.840 was answering questions again. This Jill Canadian person then says, What bothers me is Polyev tore down
00:38:42.720 Trudeau with hatred. Trudeau left, yet Polyev is still here. He lost his seat, yet one pops up for him.
00:38:48.560 I think it's corruption. How is this corruption? Yet Polyev gets another shot. The CPC kicked out
00:38:54.400 an elected person just for Polyev. And I brought this one in here because this was tweeted 23 hours
00:38:59.760 ago, which means it was tweeted in the context of what Carney was doing. This is what I meant by,
00:39:04.480 they're trying to shift onto just attacking Polyev to distract from Carney obviously looking weak,
00:39:10.720 obviously flip-flopping, obviously breaking a lot of implied promises from the election.
00:39:15.840 Oh, he kicked out an MP from his seat. How did he kick someone out? He can't. Damien Kirk stood down
00:39:21.760 because the leader needs a seat. And that's just how Canadian parliamentary politics works, that
00:39:26.320 the leader, if he loses his seat, and that was a screw up on behalf of Polyev's campaign organizers,
00:39:31.760 people like Jenny Byrne. But once the leader's out, well, obviously, Polyev is still very popular at
00:39:37.200 the base. So we're going to find him a safe seat to sit in. And then Kirk's literally going to come
00:39:41.520 back and take a seat back in the next election. Polyev will then presumably move somewhere else.
00:39:47.360 He kicked out an MP. The guy stepped down himself. There's no way you can force someone to resign.
00:39:52.800 But these people, again, they just don't have anything. But anyway, so that should be it for
00:39:57.520 me today, guys. In this video, I know this one literally has gone on for more than 40 minutes.
00:40:01.840 I just felt like there was a lot to talk about here. Hopefully you liked it. Again, if you're in the
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