The National Telegraph - Wyatt Claypool - May 20, 2026


Carney In DENIAL - Says Trump Cutting Him Off Is No Big Deal!

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Mark Carney and his liberal government are in deep denial about their approach on the United States. They thought that they were somehow going to be able to get a trade deal or any positive movement with the US when it comes to our relationship. At the same time, he was engaged in elbows-up politics both in Canada and internationally, slagging the Americans and Trump at every opportunity. It turns out, Carney lives in reality with the rest of us. He doesn't live in dreamland like he'd like to. He lives in the soupy meat world where our actions actually have consequences.

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00:00:00.000 Hey guys, Wyatt Claypool here, and welcome back to the National Telegraph YouTube channel.
00:00:06.300 Right now, Prime Minister Mark Carney and his liberal government are in deep, deep denial
00:00:12.140 about their approach on the United States. They thought that they were somehow going to be able
00:00:17.820 to get a trade deal or any positive movement with the United States when it comes to our relationship.
00:00:23.360 At the same time, he was engaged in elbows-up politics, both in Canada and internationally,
00:00:30.500 slagging the Americans and Trump at every opportunity, thinking it was going to be water
00:00:35.280 under the bridge with the Americans. They were never going to retaliate. In fact, Trump was
00:00:39.820 probably going to invite him into the Oval Office, kiss him on the forehead, and give him a big,
00:00:44.720 shiny new trade deal with everything he wanted in it. It turns out, Carney lives in reality with
00:00:51.800 the rest of us. He doesn't live in dreamland like he'd like to. He lives in the soupy meat world
00:00:57.440 that we all have to walk around in, where our actions actually have consequences. But it seems
00:01:03.240 like Mark Carney still doesn't get that, and in a press conference moment I want to show you,
00:01:08.780 it's very clear that he just thinks that he can hand wave away all the consequences of his own
00:01:13.860 actions. But before we get into it, I just want to remind you guys, if you like the channel,
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00:01:54.520 has fantastic Wi-Fi, so I'm a happy camper, at least in that far. But anyways, I have wasted
00:02:00.700 enough of your time. Let's get into this press conference moment with Mark Carney, where he
00:02:05.640 claims can end up being kicked off a defense board by the undersecretary of war elbridge colby
00:02:13.320 is no biggie in fact it doesn't matter to him at all then uh i wouldn't overplay uh i mean it has
00:02:19.320 a long heritage but i wouldn't overplay uh the importance of this what where we have uh many
00:02:25.320 aspects of very close uh defense cooperation with the united states as you know our closest defense
00:02:30.680 cooperation i'll give you the example of norad and also put this in context of uh enormous
00:02:37.080 investments that we're making in norad over 40 billion dollars uh that we're making in norad
00:02:41.880 eight billion one of the first announcements i made as prime minister was over six and a half
00:02:45.320 billion dollars in what's called over the horizon radar uh in nunavut which uh helps protect in uh
00:02:51.240 hyper hypersonic uh missiles and others uh investments that uh we're making uh to uh
00:02:58.600 uh so mark carney's just sitting there in the rain in denial pretending like this doesn't matter
00:03:05.340 that we were kicked off a mutual defense board that we've been on with the americans since 1940
00:03:11.320 since before america was even involved in world war ii we have shared this mutual defense board 0.86
00:03:17.900 with them and they as a punishment for carney one constantly cozying up with the chinese and
00:03:23.400 to slagging Trump and the Americans has decided to put the whole thing on pause, but in Carney's
00:03:28.940 mind, it doesn't matter because you know we're part of other boards too. Okay, well, sorry,
00:03:34.640 which board do we get kicked off of? Which mutual defense pact are we cut out of before we take
00:03:41.500 this seriously? Trump is indicating that he is not happy with Carney, and we're all supposed to
00:03:46.840 just sit here and say, oh, of course, Trump thinks that. That means I like Carney even more.
00:03:50.960 How about we live as adults? How about we live in the real world as adults and we understand that Canada needs America? America needs Canada too in many cases, but maybe as the smaller partner in this world, we shouldn't be constantly abiding the hand that defends us and acting like somehow this is just one of those dumb, stupid American moves and that, you know, I'll wake up and look at the, you know, and smell the coffee once it actually starts mattering.
00:04:19.640 once we're kicked out of NORAD, then I'm going to give a crap. And he keeps, the liberals keep 0.99
00:04:24.980 saying that, well, we hit our 2% of defense spending into our 2% of GDP and defense spending
00:04:30.860 goal that we had signed with NATO. And it's like, okay, we technically did that, but the Americans
00:04:37.860 were ticked off because they know how we did that. We did not actually hit 2% by, you know,
00:04:44.220 building artillery and missiles and buying jets and whatnot. No, we hit 2% because we increased
00:04:50.660 salaries, redefined a lot of infrastructure spending as defense spending, and we have
00:04:56.440 general commitments to buy defense equipment, both offensive and defensive. Well, that's not
00:05:04.660 anything yet until you actually buy it and it gets set up. But the thing that Carney loves to
00:05:10.940 live through commitments. Everything can be committed to, which means it's basically done.
00:05:17.040 This is the same thing with the pipeline. Well, he's committed to a pipeline, so how about we just
00:05:21.600 cut the red tape right now to cut the ribbon and pretend like he's accomplished something because
00:05:26.300 he's committed to it, even though his commitments are always completely littered with all these
00:05:30.900 excuses to not actually follow through at the last moment. But never you mind that. Carney
00:05:36.120 has envisioned himself as the hero of the day so apparently we all need to pat him on the back
00:05:40.960 but that wasn't the only weird interview moment with mark carney i wanted to talk about uh there
00:05:47.420 was this weird one from a few days ago when there was that pipeline announcement with daniel smith
00:05:52.840 i completely missed this one and i got to give a uh shout out to who was the one who actually
00:05:58.680 posted this uh i think it's beautiful canada the tiktok account edited this clip up uh this is
00:06:05.700 kind of amazing because he gets asked a question about, hey, you've been in business. You were the
00:06:12.380 chair of Brookfield Asset Management. You know how the private sector works. In the current
00:06:17.220 conditions that there are in the oil and gas industry in Canada, would you invest in it?
00:06:23.200 And he does the most obvious carny tell of when he's lying or deeply uncomfortable with the
00:06:29.220 question he starts laughing and turning into a machine that serves up hot ums and ahs check this
00:06:36.640 out it's just a very awkward 30 second clip if you were still in the private sector prime minister
00:06:41.600 would you invest in this pipeline given the uncertainty around the separation referendum
00:06:45.680 and its dependence on pathways well moving forward so all of that if i were in the private
00:06:53.320 sector and i'm never going to be in the private sector again um but um if i were those are the
00:06:59.080 that's those are the components that uh get you interested and i think uh there'll be a lot of
00:07:04.200 interest here now i think that the person cut it down a little bit because there was a lot of
00:07:08.920 meandering at the beginning of the clip but he talks about how well you know uh you're going to
00:07:14.840 be interested in this project because there's all these like sustainability commitments and and we
00:07:21.280 have government, you know, agreements basically ensuring that we're going to do it and all that
00:07:27.300 stuff, never actually addressing the separatist things a bit of a misnomer. But the pathways
00:07:32.580 part of the question is legitimate. The carbon capture pathways project is not something that
00:07:38.440 is required in any other industry, like any other energy industry in the world. But you're going to
00:07:44.720 invest in Canada while the actual profit margin on your investment is so low. Apparently in like
00:07:53.020 the American, like the Texas oil industry, your actual rate of return investment per year is like
00:08:00.200 12%. You throw a billion dollars into a new development in the United States and you're
00:08:06.300 going to be getting back per year like $120 million in revenues or profits. I'm not sure
00:08:12.980 which one it is, I believe it should be profits. That's substantial. And in Canada, a billion
00:08:18.460 dollar project would be getting you $60 million back every year. And so you can make the industry
00:08:25.020 profitable. But if it's relatively way less profitable than anywhere else on the planet,
00:08:31.180 why bother even investing? But you could tell that Carney knows that it's not a good investment,
00:08:36.880 because as soon as he was asked that question, he turned into, well, you know, I'm not probably
00:08:41.900 going to go back into the private sector. Well, you know, the private sector, we have a lot of
00:08:49.700 things that you would be looking for if you wanted to invest and just staying vague, really jittery,
00:08:57.520 defensive, deflecting. He knows that no pipeline is going to get built. Just like with his answer
00:09:05.600 when it came to the mutual defense board it becomes awkward and stiff and he doesn't want
00:09:12.220 to answer it and he gets very tight and he kind of laughs a little bit and every and he answers
00:09:17.920 about everything but the thing you asked a question about so when it becomes about the
00:09:22.800 mutual defense board it becomes well you know we're on a bunch of other boards okay well so
00:09:26.720 we shouldn't be bothered because we're on other boards okay well apparently like what how many
00:09:33.280 boards again do we have to be kicked off of before it starts mattering and again with okay so would
00:09:39.160 you actually invest or not because he didn't say he would he just simply said that well you know
00:09:45.480 i'm not going to be in the private sector and i but i think we have some of the things that they
00:09:48.520 like okay that was weirdly defensive now i need to check to show you guys a couple other clips
00:09:56.740 that i find very funny so there's a separatist movement in alberta as you all know now even
00:10:03.000 Even though I am an Albertan from Calgary, I'm agnostic when it comes to independence.
00:10:08.280 I'm not viciously against and I'm not vociferously in favor.
00:10:12.860 The chips will fall where they may, I'm not going to slag the movement, I'm not going
00:10:16.760 to support them, I'm just here commentating on it a little bit.
00:10:22.300 One of the funniest things I find is how elevated the left gets about it, despite the fact that
00:10:27.900 all the polls show it wouldn't succeed.
00:10:30.680 The highest polls showed at 40%.
00:10:32.680 I'd kind of discount those ones.
00:10:34.740 The lower ones show only 19%.
00:10:37.340 Those ones are probably not accurate either.
00:10:40.020 I stick with my favorite pollster in Western Canada, Janet Brown,
00:10:43.900 who has shown that the support is around 27% to 30% in the two polls that she has done.
00:10:48.840 She is usually within decimal points in terms of her accuracy when it comes to her election predictions.
00:10:55.500 She is very, very detailed.
00:10:57.900 She makes sure to call up deep rural areas, suburban, urban. She doesn't just call up a thousand people. She makes sure that they are even from different postal codes so that when you call someone in a rural area, they're not a school teacher in Lethbridge. They're, in fact, an actual farmer who lives, you know, an hour away from the closest town. You do need to be able to pull those people. 0.87
00:11:17.180 Janet Brown has found that the movement, although it has substantial support, is still far away from actually being able to win a referendum.
00:11:24.640 But the left are like the biggest propagandists in favor of the independence movement because they think, they act like this thing is about to happen any second now and we need to shut it down ASAP.
00:11:36.260 And apparently, according to the diseased mind of Laura Babcock, part of this is Keir Polyev's fault because he has not come out against it yet.
00:11:45.800 He is not committed to dragging an independent supporter behind his truck, chained up, because apparently that is the only thing that is going to save us. 0.68
00:11:54.700 Now, you might think that I'm being overly silly in how I'm talking about Laura Babcock.
00:11:59.720 She had a guest on her show the other day who literally said that the independence movement and the data leak that happened with one of the organizations involved, it could result in death.
00:12:09.900 It could result in death.
00:12:12.340 No hyper-verbally there, I guess.
00:12:14.460 you know, that's real. He knows somehow he's not just saying things to try and get people
00:12:21.440 emotionally invested in defeating the movement. But check out this clip of Laura Babcock having
00:12:26.940 a meltdown over Peter's inaction on this file. He has not denounced the data breach of three
00:12:34.500 million voters. So if he's not worried about it in Alberta, you think he's going to be worried
00:12:39.600 about it if suddenly it happens across the rest of this country? You're either for democracy and
00:12:44.440 the protection of voters or you're not put it as even simpler you're either for canada or you
00:12:50.680 or pack your bags and leave oh my goodness of course you had angus well what is that charlie
00:12:57.080 angus on the former ndp mp uh what so you're you're either in favor of democracy or you're not
00:13:05.720 this is the same laura babcock who's talking about shutting down the independence referendum
00:13:11.080 that it has to be prevented from going to a vote at all costs.
00:13:15.240 And then Charlie Angus there, like, chirping in at the end,
00:13:18.460 you're either in favor of Canada or you're not.
00:13:21.240 Okay, and apparently I have to do everything you want to be in favor of Canada.
00:13:25.800 You have to go around talking about a who cares data breach.
00:13:29.100 Now, it is actually somewhat serious,
00:13:31.340 but in terms of Pierre Paulio's position as the federal Conservative Party leader,
00:13:35.700 this does not appear on his radar.
00:13:38.280 This is not on his radar, because it really doesn't matter.
00:13:41.740 It has to do with the Centurion Project and the Republican Party of Alberta,
00:13:45.740 and it does not concern Pierre Paulyov.
00:13:48.280 My goodness.
00:13:49.580 But, of course, I have to torture you guys a little bit more 0.93
00:13:52.680 and bring up another Laura Babcock clip.
00:13:55.700 Again, her freaking out about independence in Alberta and how this is, I don't know.
00:14:01.100 Apparently, there's a big conspiracy with the Americans to get Alberta out of Canada.
00:14:07.040 I don't know what his direct connections are, but the reporting certainly is that it's all one big swampy thing with what's happening in Alberta and the Trump regime.
00:14:16.540 And if we can't get to the bottom of it, if we can't find out if there's trees in a foot, if we can't kick out an ambassador, if there's something, you know, untoward going on, then what the hell kind of power do we have as a country?
00:14:27.360 uh okay so that's your that's your fill of lord babcock for today i probably don't need to show
00:14:32.640 you any more of her but she is a great example of what i would consider to be one of the biggest 0.95
00:14:38.880 problems in canadian politics and it's both left and right emotionally in content incontinent
00:14:45.840 activists emotionally constipated activists when they sound off on something it it's emotion it's
00:14:53.920 fear if you guys have to get involved right now people are gonna die this could result in death
00:14:58.960 and it's like oh my goodness laura oh my goodness people can we settle down everything needs to be
00:15:05.540 you're gonna die this is treason it needs to stop or this needs to happen right now or
00:15:10.920 we're not gonna live to tomorrow if this doesn't happen if danielle smith doesn't denounce and then 0.94
00:15:17.380 call for the crucifixion of david parker and all the people involved in the centurion project
00:15:21.520 it's not, this country's not going to survive. And it's like, does she not know what she looks
00:15:27.000 like? And she probably doesn't, because these people are emotionally immature. We have so many
00:15:33.220 emotionally immature people involved in our politics, not just activists. There are elected
00:15:38.700 officials that are effectively overly emotional activists who can't think. These people cannot
00:15:43.800 think. You can have a rational position in favor or against independence. All these people constantly
00:15:49.800 do is say treason it's the americans it's a big swampy swamp and we need to stop it it's like
00:15:55.680 you're in favor of shutting down democracy you don't want the referendum going forward well
00:16:00.680 because it violates the rights of first nations people no it doesn't no it doesn't why oh because
00:16:07.120 they don't consent to leave canada sorry is that part of their treaties that they get to consent
00:16:11.540 whether alberta leaves or not i don't think so those treaties could continue in a independent
00:16:17.520 in Alberta, although I don't think they should because I don't like two-tier citizenship.
00:16:21.760 But no, this is not, I'm sorry, they're not the gods of Canada. I'm sorry, but a referendum vote
00:16:28.500 happening is not treason. And I don't even know what the facts are behind this whole Pete Hoagstra
00:16:34.040 thing related to the potential data breach. I'm going to guess that it has nothing to do with
00:16:39.420 the Americans because we already know who's involved. Alberta Republican Party and the
00:16:45.020 Centurion Project, to borderline irrelevant entities in the entire independence movement,
00:16:51.420 if not Alberta politics in general. But apparently, this is the big gotcha that not only people like
00:16:58.760 Laura Babcock are using, but the Alberta NDP leader, Nahid Nenshi, is using to try and justify
00:17:04.140 shutting down the referendum. Danielle Smith is absolutely right if she just pushes the referendum
00:17:09.400 them through. 300,000 people signed the Stay Free Alberta petition on it, and 400,000 people
00:17:16.380 signed the Forever Canada petition. Now, why not go to a vote? It's not even going to succeed
00:17:22.700 anyways. But these people are allergic to letting anyone they disagree with actually use democracy
00:17:28.960 for their own means. It's only democracy when they win. You have to understand this. It actually
00:17:35.400 reminds me of something I said in actually my best performing video ever, which was very early
00:17:40.020 on in the channel's history, when I was covering a plebiscite that happened in Westlock, Alberta,
00:17:46.080 where they had voted very narrowly, but they voted in favor of taking down all of the pride flags
00:17:53.060 and the pride crosswalks and all the other street art and whatnot that the city was putting up
00:17:58.560 all year long for pride. And the citizens of the city were just saying that they don't want this
00:18:04.920 because it's getting annoying. It's constant activist stuff everywhere. And the left responded
00:18:10.680 to the people of Westlock voting democratically to stop wasting taxpayer money on this stuff
00:18:16.340 by shipping in fried rainbow placard lawn signs to put up all over the city because they need to
00:18:25.460 be punished for voting wrong because it in fact is not democratic if people don't vote for the
00:18:30.780 that you personally want. There were MLA saying, oh, I'm so sorry to the LGBT people in Westlock
00:18:37.820 that you have not been, you know, fairly represented. Fairly represented? I'm sorry,
00:18:43.200 people just didn't want pride flags at City Hall all year long. They want the flag of Westlock,
00:18:48.380 flag of Alberta, flag of Canada, and maybe the Union Jack too. And apparently that's not
00:18:53.960 representative enough for some residents of the city. Yeah, it's just so tiring. But anyways,
00:19:00.780 With all that being said, sorry that this video turned into a rant, but I know some people like it, so I'm going to both say sorry and say you're welcome at the same time.
00:19:10.980 But anyways, the people holding me hostage say that I have to end the video now, or at least that's what this room feels like, and so that's where we're going to end things.
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