The National Telegraph - Wyatt Claypool - January 08, 2026


Carney in Trouble! CBC tries to clean up for him!


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In this episode of Power and Politics, host WYWyatt Claypool takes a look at how the CBC's coverage of the leadership vacuum left by the departure of two Liberal MPs, and what it means for the future of the party.

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00:00:00.000 Hey guys, Wyatt Claypool here.
00:00:02.860 One of the very few things I find very entertaining about the CBC
00:00:07.100 is watching their differential coverage of negative news stories for Pierre Polyev's Conservatives
00:00:13.260 and negative news stories for Mark Carney's Liberals.
00:00:17.100 You know if there is a negative story for the Polyev Conservatives,
00:00:21.400 the coverage on the CBC is going to be breathless.
00:00:24.940 Just as an example, when Chris Dontremont and Michael Ma crossed the floor
00:00:29.680 to the Liberals, which is undoubtedly a bad story for the Conservatives,
00:00:34.540 the coverage on the CBC was over the top in how breathless it was.
00:00:40.120 The coverage was, is Pierre Polyev finished?
00:00:43.980 Can he even pass his leadership review in January anymore?
00:00:48.700 Is the Conservative Party itself done?
00:00:52.280 Are there 50 more Conservative MPs who might cross the floor?
00:00:55.920 The speculation and all of the coverage of Polyev's leadership was completely ridiculous,
00:01:03.640 especially considering there was so much evidence to prove Chris Dontremont and Michael Ma left
00:01:09.280 for petty personal reasons, and it really didn't say that much about Polyev or the Conservative Party
00:01:15.060 that those two individuals left.
00:01:17.080 But now, now that Mark Carney has Liberal MPs leaving,
00:01:23.320 suddenly there's all this nuance we need to go over.
00:01:26.300 No, no, no, this doesn't say anything about Mark Carney.
00:01:29.100 Never will anyone actually bring up that this demonstrates that Carney's leadership style
00:01:33.940 may not be good, even though there is far more evidence
00:01:37.240 that these MPs are going to be leaving because they don't like him,
00:01:41.560 because he's bad at managing his cabinet,
00:01:43.440 because he tends to be really pompous and elitist,
00:01:46.800 to the point where these Liberal MPs want to find a way out of Canadian politics.
00:01:52.280 So, I want to take you guys through a couple of news segments.
00:01:55.760 I want to show you this one from a day ago,
00:01:58.200 before Christy Freeland had announced she's leaving on Friday. 0.91
00:02:01.840 This is an episode of the CBC's Power and Politics,
00:02:05.220 hosted by David Cochran.
00:02:06.540 I don't know why I'm plugging it like I'm officially introducing the show.
00:02:09.200 But they're talking about it back before she had given the specific date.
00:02:13.520 This is when she just said it's going to be the next few weeks.
00:02:15.660 And obviously, pressure mounted on the fact that she's going to go work for Ukraine 0.56
00:02:19.340 in the Road Society, but she's not willing to step down right away. 0.65
00:02:22.700 She's going to continue being an MP for weeks. 1.00
00:02:24.840 So, then she moved the timeline up heavily.
00:02:27.540 We're going to go through this because they do exactly what I said they do.
00:02:31.800 It just turns into people needing to show you all these extra folds to the story
00:02:38.140 to demonstrate this isn't actually not as bad as you think.
00:02:41.400 And at no point, outside of the occasional actual conservative on a panel,
00:02:47.560 does anything about Mark Carney actually get brought up in all this.
00:02:51.180 So, let's dive right in.
00:02:54.080 Election in 2026.
00:02:55.880 And the Prime Minister suggested rather strongly today
00:02:58.420 that Freeland isn't the only Liberal MP with plans to resign their seat.
00:03:03.900 We'll have a by-election.
00:03:04.940 There'll be a few by-elections coming up.
00:03:06.600 And we'll run great candidates.
00:03:08.660 And the people in those ridings will decide who they want to send to Parliament.
00:03:14.440 Lots of plurals there.
00:03:15.760 Well, we know Christopher Freeland will step down later this month.
00:03:18.420 And we've been reporting for months that former Cabinet Minister Bill Blair
00:03:21.840 is set to be the next High Commissioner to the United Kingdom.
00:03:24.300 While Jonathan Wilkinson is expected to get a diplomatic post in Europe.
00:03:29.580 I actually want to make a quick correction to things I'd previously said in other videos.
00:03:34.720 I've sometimes gotten Bill Blair and Jonathan Wilkinson mixed up.
00:03:38.500 Like, I know who they are and I can put the face to the name.
00:03:41.560 But I've said that Wilkinson was the one taking that UK High Commissioner job.
00:03:45.620 It's Bill Blair.
00:03:46.320 And then I believe Wilkinson wants to be some, like, diplomat in Switzerland
00:03:51.260 or to the EU or something like that.
00:03:54.200 But he just wants out of Parliament is the main sort of thrust of what's going on here.
00:04:00.100 Bill Blair also needs to replace Ralph Goodale, who's, like, 83, 84 years old
00:04:04.200 and is still the UK High Commissioner and probably wants to retire at this point.
00:04:07.800 But now let's get into their panel.
00:04:09.480 It could mean three by-elections and a drop.
00:04:11.720 Oh, and by the way, they also didn't mention Nate Erskine-Smith, who's, like, a first-round
00:04:16.580 draft pick of an individual to be resigning with Christy Freeland.
00:04:21.260 Like, maybe he doesn't do it tomorrow.
00:04:22.700 But the man is trying to run for Ontario Liberal Party leader.
00:04:26.400 He's obviously going to leave.
00:04:28.140 He came a very close second place the last Ontario Liberal leadership race to Bonnie Crombie.
00:04:34.660 So naturally, he's probably the shoe-in to win this time.
00:04:37.280 And the fact that no one else has actually declared their candidacy yet in Ontario for
00:04:42.480 the Liberal Party leadership probably says that everyone knows that Erskine-Smith will
00:04:46.840 be very difficult to beat, especially because not that many people even want the job in the
00:04:51.060 first place.
00:04:52.020 So people are probably just waiting around to see if Nate runs or not.
00:04:54.920 And if he does, it's pretty much guaranteed to be his, which means he will be stepping
00:04:58.540 down from Parliament.
00:04:59.780 Of three in the Liberal seat count in a minority Parliament.
00:05:02.680 So we're going to start there with the power panel.
00:05:04.760 Emily Nicola is a columnist for Le Devoir.
00:05:06.540 Gary Keller is a former Chief of Staff to Conservative Cabinet Ministers.
00:05:10.520 Cheryl Oates was the Director of Communications for former Alberta NDP Premier Rachel Notley.
00:05:15.080 And here with me in the studio, Michelle Cadario, who is Deputy Chief of Staff to former Prime
00:05:19.040 Minister Paul Martin.
00:05:20.980 Michelle, you have some experience in minority parliaments.
00:05:24.480 Three vacancies, two appointments, one a resignation.
00:05:28.460 That doesn't make your life any easier.
00:05:31.060 But the Prime Minister made it very clear.
00:05:32.500 It seems like that's where this is headed.
00:05:33.760 Well, let's also, you know, he spoke in the plural.
00:05:36.740 And let's not forget Genereau from Edmonton, where we expect that, you know, he resigned
00:05:43.720 quite some time ago.
00:05:45.320 He hasn't quit yet.
00:05:46.020 He said he hasn't resigned.
00:05:48.200 And notice immediately, immediately the deflection.
00:05:52.080 We're not actually going to talk about the implications here for Mark Carney right away.
00:05:56.120 We're going to deflect to Matt Genereau, who, for whatever reasons, whether it's personal,
00:06:00.680 maybe he doesn't like Polyev.
00:06:01.960 I don't know the background.
00:06:03.320 But the Conservative MP for Edmonton Riverbend says he will resign his seat.
00:06:07.780 But he said he'll resign his seat after the spring session, which is probably because
00:06:12.700 everyone already thinks there's going to be a spring or a summer federal election.
00:06:18.420 So it's a safe time for him to step down anyways, because he'll probably be stepping down
00:06:22.380 and then handing the seat off to the next Conservative nominee anyways.
00:06:26.240 But that's a complete non-sequitur that she brought up.
00:06:29.480 Well, you know, Matt Genereau is also leaving.
00:06:31.540 OK, well, elephant in the room.
00:06:33.040 Chrystia Freeland's leaving.
00:06:34.480 Bill Blair's probably leaving.
00:06:35.880 Jonathan Wilkinson's probably leaving.
00:06:37.560 Nate Erskine-Smith's probably leaving.
00:06:39.400 Stephen Gilbeau is probably leaving.
00:06:41.620 Melanie Jolie is probably leaving.
00:06:43.300 Like, we can keep naming people.
00:06:45.100 And I'm not doing this frivolously.
00:06:46.560 The one person who I'd say is a dark horse option, who's probably less likely to leave, 0.96
00:06:52.960 more likely to not leave than leave, is Melanie Jolie. 1.00
00:06:56.120 The rest of them are more likely to leave than not leave.
00:06:59.140 But he has a pending resignation.
00:07:00.920 Yes.
00:07:01.160 So, you know, that one is another one.
00:07:03.280 So that would be plural, no matter what.
00:07:06.660 But Carney said a few by-elections.
00:07:10.800 He didn't say a couple.
00:07:12.140 And by the way, Matt Genereau is still not leaving for a few months at least.
00:07:15.740 So, presumably, they would be only, if Chrystia Freeland was the only one to be leaving on
00:07:21.240 Friday, there would only be one in the foreseeable future.
00:07:24.540 And then maybe a few months later, there would be one for Matt Genereau.
00:07:27.280 He said a few, which means either he's including Matt Genereau in to that group, plus another
00:07:33.060 liberal, or it's three liberals or more.
00:07:35.720 Because, you know, here's, I'm going to do a quick little numbers lesson.
00:07:40.820 It's not even a math lesson, because it's too basic.
00:07:42.860 One, two, which can be called a couple.
00:07:46.920 So there's a singular, two, which are a couple, three or more.
00:07:51.980 Now we're getting into the territory of a few.
00:07:55.000 So, no, no, no, it's not plural.
00:07:57.060 It's not just we have plural people leaving.
00:07:59.700 No, no, no.
00:08:00.400 He said a few.
00:08:01.180 That is more than three.
00:08:03.240 That is three or more.
00:08:04.300 That is not a couple.
00:08:05.620 So, but, you know, around town, certainly there's chatter.
00:08:10.720 But also, they have a budget bill that still hasn't made its way completely through the
00:08:15.000 House.
00:08:15.920 And so I would think that that would be a bit of a timing consideration for whatever
00:08:21.340 they do.
00:08:21.980 Um, and, uh, you know, equally, uh, around town, there's still lots of talk about others
00:08:28.340 who might want to join, uh, join the liberal caucus.
00:08:31.840 So.
00:08:32.740 Oh, we're, we're, now we're trying to deflect the idea.
00:08:35.180 You only know that, uh, Polioff's conservatives have had a few people who, uh, might want to
00:08:40.600 still cross the floor.
00:08:41.480 And it's like, yeah, it was a bad story when Don Trevon and Michael Ma left.
00:08:45.240 If anything, with Michael Ma's case, it's more of an indictment of whoever appointed that
00:08:49.420 guy from inside the conservative party.
00:08:51.620 It's probably not Pierre Polioff who did it.
00:08:53.280 You know, he'd be far too busy.
00:08:54.580 Whoever, whichever lower level person decided Michael Ma was a great choice, you know, slap
00:08:59.400 that person on the wrist and make sure they're never in charge of picking people again.
00:09:03.500 In fact, you shouldn't be appointing people.
00:09:04.980 You should be having nominations.
00:09:06.380 That's a rabbit hole for another day.
00:09:07.920 Well, what a, what a stupid comment.
00:09:10.420 Oh, well, you know, Polioff's conservatives or someone else, some other people might be leaving
00:09:14.580 and joining the Liberals.
00:09:16.120 So I might be crossing the floor.
00:09:17.340 Well, we just had another story today that we're going to talk a bit more about.
00:09:20.740 Uh, one of the other top prospects for the Liberals was an NDP MP from Nunavut who just
00:09:26.960 rejected the Liberals.
00:09:29.260 They've gotten so desperate, the Liberals, in trying to find people to cross the floor.
00:09:32.980 They were asking Scott Anderson, who very clearly was not going to cross.
00:09:37.240 That doesn't mean, like, I know people like David Cochran, who's the host of the show,
00:09:41.160 have thrown kind of shade at the idea that they would have ever
00:09:44.440 approached Scott Anderson because he seems too conservative for them to approach.
00:09:47.520 I'm like, that's the point.
00:09:50.140 He obviously was approached because he has all the details that he's been telling people
00:09:53.880 about what happened.
00:09:55.700 And it just proves how desperate the Liberals are.
00:09:59.040 The fact that it's a stupid person to approach just ends up proving that their strategy right
00:10:04.160 now is very stupid or desperate.
00:10:06.960 Um, it will be interesting, Matt, as they kind of go forward.
00:10:10.680 Um, but I think the job number one for them has got to be getting this budget bill going
00:10:15.640 through.
00:10:16.380 And I can't imagine risking, unless they are so sure about some other crossings, uh, that
00:10:23.760 they would risk that, um, by, by triggering by elections beforehand.
00:10:27.960 Okay.
00:10:28.400 That is a good point.
00:10:29.140 And Gary, I hadn't considered.
00:10:31.380 So he's saying, I haven't considered that.
00:10:34.020 Like, why aren't you pushing back on her?
00:10:36.300 Ask her what this actually means for Mark Carney.
00:10:38.500 Does this say anything about his leadership style?
00:10:40.360 Does this say anything about the stability of his government?
00:10:42.820 We're going by elections beforehand.
00:10:44.660 Okay.
00:10:45.080 That is a good point.
00:10:45.820 And Gary, I hadn't considered that maybe the plural was Matt Jenneru because, uh, we,
00:10:50.300 we've not seen or heard or anything, uh, for the MP for Edmonton Riverbend, I believe
00:10:55.120 it is, uh, since that day that he quit.
00:10:57.700 Uh, what do you make of this dynamic?
00:10:59.340 Even the loss of Freeland though, uh, it does reduce the seat count by one at a time when,
00:11:03.680 as you know, someone who worked in the house leader's office, you don't really want to be
00:11:06.280 getting rid of seats at this point.
00:11:08.460 Again, that wasn't a good point that she made though.
00:11:10.580 The plural could have been Matt Jenneru.
00:11:12.020 No, no.
00:11:12.520 The specific plural was a few, which means it's more than two at the very least.
00:11:16.160 So it may be Freeland, Matt Jenneru and another person, or it could be Freeland and two
00:11:21.120 other liberals because Matt Jenneru is not going to step down for a few months.
00:11:25.400 No, that's right.
00:11:26.340 And, uh, I thought the statement by the prime minister was interesting.
00:11:29.400 It did set tongues wagging a bit in auto by elections.
00:11:33.300 Well, how many by elections?
00:11:35.180 Although if you take a step back and if you, if you were to say by elections, plural,
00:11:39.380 Christopher Freeland, university, Rosedale, a pretty safe liberals and Matt Jenneru, if
00:11:44.100 you did at the same time, a pretty safe conservative seat, you're kind of going one for one.
00:11:48.740 So you're not really, uh, messing with the math too much, but it is, it is an interesting
00:11:53.940 turn of events, uh, and, uh, these rumors have been going around for so long in Ottawa
00:11:58.980 about who might be going, when people waiting for October 19th of last year to kick in so
00:12:03.560 they could get their, uh, their six year parliamentary pension.
00:12:06.700 Uh, now we've passed that.
00:12:08.400 Um, but Michelle is right.
00:12:09.840 The main item of business is to get the budget and limitation act passed.
00:12:13.900 How is this the conservative on the panel?
00:12:15.600 This is what frustrates me about the, the CBC to the point where it becomes funny.
00:12:20.520 So we have a conservative on the panel, not saying, Hey guys, remember how you guys were
00:12:25.680 breathlessly covering after Donchmont and Ma crossed the floor about how this has all
00:12:30.440 these implications about pure poly of his like leadership.
00:12:34.380 You know, it went down to like, what does this say about pure poly of soul that these two
00:12:40.260 individuals left more, more individuals are just flat out resigning from office on Mark
00:12:47.140 Carney.
00:12:47.700 And this says nothing about him.
00:12:49.120 Apparently even the conservative on the panel, the supposed conservative on the panel
00:12:53.200 is not bringing up what this might mean about Carney.
00:12:55.680 I'll keep letting it go.
00:12:57.060 Maybe he'll eventually snake back to that.
00:12:59.040 If I need to rely on the NDP person to bring this up, I will quit the show.
00:13:04.820 I will quit the show.
00:13:06.320 This shows over.
00:13:07.220 If it takes the NDP person to finally bring up the big question in the room, what does
00:13:12.740 this say about Mark Carney?
00:13:14.180 And maybe it doesn't say anything about Mark Carney, but they always do it to poly of
00:13:18.040 so you kind of have to do it for him too.
00:13:20.180 I actually do believe it actually does say something about Mark Carney because Mark has
00:13:24.880 been at odds with many of these people.
00:13:26.440 He has very clearly been like at odds because he's demoted them or they ended up leaving cabinet
00:13:32.540 or he ended up making them a cabinet minister in this case of Nate Erskine Smith.
00:13:36.760 And then kicking them out or sticking somebody who's a veteran, even if I think he's a bad
00:13:41.380 he was a bad minister.
00:13:42.540 But sticking someone like a veteran minister like Bill Blair in the back, that says something
00:13:47.920 about his leadership style and his sort of like dismissiveness of people with experience.
00:13:54.220 And currently it looks like they would get that done in some way, shape or form would
00:13:58.560 be close to doing it.
00:13:59.580 They still got to get into the House.
00:14:00.600 They still got to get into committee.
00:14:01.580 And so you don't want to be messing around too much until you get that bill, at least
00:14:07.900 very close to passage, if not all the way through.
00:14:10.900 But, you know, Cheryl, the parliamentary issues aside, you do need diplomats in countries like
00:14:16.320 the United Kingdom and in places like the European Union, especially with all the things that
00:14:21.700 are happening.
00:14:22.360 Right.
00:14:22.520 So how do you begin to approach this?
00:14:24.580 Yeah.
00:14:24.740 So incisive analysis right there, David, with all the things that are happening, you
00:14:29.760 need diplomats around.
00:14:31.280 OK, thank you, David.
00:14:32.260 Thank you, David Cochran, for that comment as a minority government facing all of these
00:14:36.220 challenges.
00:14:38.060 Yeah.
00:14:38.520 I mean, it's interesting because what should be like the next step in Chrystia Freeland's
00:14:42.900 story, which should be, you know, an honorable and important position that she's just taken
00:14:46.700 is totally overshadowed by the fact that she has not resigned her seat.
00:14:51.380 And that tells, you know, us political watchers that there is a real political calculus going
00:14:56.100 on.
00:14:56.840 And I think in addition...
00:14:57.920 Well, this woman also hosts another podcast about politics. 1.00
00:15:03.760 What is this analysis?
00:15:05.700 Well, you know, that really tells us something as political watchers.
00:15:10.120 What does that tell us?
00:15:12.220 Like, attempt to keep explaining.
00:15:15.080 To what Michelle and others have said about, like, of course, you need to make sure in
00:15:18.860 this minority situation that you have the votes in the House that you need to pass important
00:15:23.920 pieces of legislation or pass confidence votes.
00:15:27.460 In addition to that, just from a just logistically a by-election standpoint, if I was working on
00:15:33.340 by-elections, I would want them to all happen at the same time.
00:15:35.720 Yes.
00:15:36.180 And so, you know, you want you want one person to be able to run whatever it is field for
00:15:40.820 all the by-elections at one time.
00:15:42.060 And once you have by-elections happening on different timelines, that becomes really complicated
00:15:46.900 and you need a whole lot more people to do it.
00:15:48.680 So that could be another political calculus here.
00:15:51.020 But yeah, I mean, we need people in these important posts overseas now, perhaps, more
00:15:55.720 than we have.
00:15:56.100 And now she's just repeating what David Cochran said.
00:15:59.020 These people are frauds.
00:16:01.020 These people don't know what they're talking about.
00:16:03.380 Am I a political genius?
00:16:05.040 No, no, not at all.
00:16:07.400 But the thing is, I can like, you know, see the elephant in the room, which is as implied
00:16:12.960 by it being an elephant, is not that hard to see.
00:16:15.780 What is this saying about Mark Carney's government?
00:16:18.340 What does this say about his floor crossing strategy?
00:16:20.940 Because Michelle, at the beginning, when she starts talking about, well, there might be
00:16:24.640 some more people crossing the floor, that ended up turning out not to be true at all.
00:16:28.640 Because another NDP MP just said, no, I'm not crossing.
00:16:33.200 I've even thought about it seriously.
00:16:35.120 And I'm not going to do it.
00:16:36.220 And this is probably one of their top prospects.
00:16:38.580 How does that strategy even play out at a time when Mark Carney can't even hold on to
00:16:46.840 his own MPs?
00:16:47.620 How is he going to now start enticing other people to cross the floor when the gap in
00:16:52.140 his government is becoming wider?
00:16:53.480 At the very least, he's going to have to fill in all these gaps, run the table, win back
00:16:58.080 all of his seats.
00:16:59.240 And yeah, they might be safe seats, but by-elections can play out a bit wonky.
00:17:03.240 You may end up having that in a riding like Chrystia Freeland's riding of University Rosedale,
00:17:08.600 an NDP could win.
00:17:09.920 Because between 2011 and 2015, an NDP did win.
00:17:13.620 And you could say, well, that's when the Liberal Party only got like 18% of the vote under
00:17:17.200 Michael Ignatiev and just died.
00:17:19.180 OK, sure.
00:17:20.260 But again, that was in a general election, which is really difficult for the NDP to typically
00:17:24.600 pull off.
00:17:25.440 Yeah, they had Jack Layton at the helm, but if they get Heather McPherson in as their
00:17:30.440 new NDP leader and she just puts all of her chips on University of Rosedale to replace 0.99
00:17:35.960 Freeland with an NDP MP, she could pull it off.
00:17:38.860 If the narrative's right, if a lot of public sector union workers don't show up for the
00:17:43.400 Liberals and they go back over to the NDP and people are mad who voted for Freeland that
00:17:47.680 she just up and left for no reason, you could have people reflexively go and vote for the NDP.
00:17:52.280 I'd almost encourage conservatives to go vote NDP just to screw over the Liberals in that
00:17:57.000 riding.
00:17:58.000 But the going to the whole idea of like, oh, well, this doesn't really matter because they
00:18:02.360 have other irons in the fire.
00:18:03.600 Well, not anymore, because nobody's going to cross when they don't currently have that
00:18:09.080 majority secured anymore.
00:18:10.920 They are not one seat away where you crossing doesn't benefit you as an individual.
00:18:14.940 You just look petty and stupid in the next federal election for like just ignoring your
00:18:19.460 voters.
00:18:20.620 But let's get into this story now.
00:18:22.980 This is now yesterday's CBC Power and Politics panel.
00:18:27.880 And I wanted to talk about it because now we've jumped ahead where Freeland has made it clear
00:18:32.440 she is now resigning on Friday and that NDP MP is not going is not going to be crossing.
00:18:38.400 They are going to introduce the NDP MP story at the start, and then they're going to go into
00:18:44.360 the sort of numbers in Parliament.
00:18:46.400 And I find that they do a bit of a sneaky maneuver here in forgetting what they had said just a
00:18:52.620 couple of days ago.
00:18:53.740 So check this out.
00:18:54.900 An NDP MP says she doesn't plan to cross the floor to the Liberals, at least not right now.
00:18:59.400 None of its Lori Idlaut spoke to our CBC North colleagues, saying she has been asked to consider
00:19:04.300 crossing the floor by both Liberal Party members and her own constituents.
00:19:08.400 I did like his little finger wave.
00:19:09.740 I've definitely been asked to consider it more than usual.
00:19:15.960 I have decided at this point that I can't.
00:19:19.440 It's definitely weighed heavily on me, and I've had so many conversations with people.
00:19:26.980 Now, if Lori Idlaut did end up crossing the floor, it would bring the government to a majority 1.00
00:19:30.980 as the Liberals currently sit at 100.
00:19:32.960 Okay, except she's not crossing the floor, so I don't know why we're talking about that.
00:19:36.260 71 seats in the House of Commons.
00:19:38.400 But we know there will be by-elections coming up just this hour.
00:19:42.200 Yeah, and who is being affected by those by-elections?
00:19:46.760 It's potentially Freeland and other Liberals who are leaving on Friday.
00:19:51.700 So the by-election is taking them down to 170, and if another person leaves, it's 169, and
00:19:59.100 if another person leaves, it's 168.
00:20:01.620 Yes, Matt Gennaro could be replaced by a Liberal in Edmonton Riverbend.
00:20:05.340 I really don't see it happening, though.
00:20:07.360 The Liberals had a high-watermark election result in Alberta in this last race.
00:20:13.260 They usually don't do nearly as well as they did, and since then, they've been not doing
00:20:17.500 that great on policy.
00:20:19.340 I don't think they're going to do even better than they did in the last election.
00:20:22.980 That was a high-watermark.
00:20:25.480 Liberal MP Chrystia Freeland announced she will be resigning her seat this Friday.
00:20:30.020 This after she took a new job working for Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky.
00:20:35.120 Freeland posted a statement on social media just now.
00:20:37.520 On Monday, I announced my intention to leave the House of Commons in the coming weeks.
00:20:41.700 Today, I have written to the Speaker to confirm that I will vacate my seat effective this Friday,
00:20:45.940 January 9th.
00:20:46.940 One of the roles I will be taking on is as an unpaid advisor on economic issues to the
00:20:51.420 President of Ukraine.
00:20:52.720 This is a volunteer position, and I have consulted throughout with the ethics community.
00:20:56.160 I think you'll forgive me if I just skip ahead to the actual panel part of this,
00:20:59.580 because I don't care that much whether I'm reading this.
00:21:02.240 A little bit more on Laurie Adlaut.
00:21:04.000 Had agreed to do an interview with the show today, two to three minutes before we were
00:21:07.700 supposed to record it.
00:21:08.820 She cancelled, said she would be issuing a statement, which I've received on my phone,
00:21:12.240 where she says she's staying with the NDP.
00:21:14.800 She was really close to going.
00:21:16.740 We talked a little bit about this before the Christmas break, and I was even told there
00:21:20.580 was a meeting scheduled where it would very likely happen with the Prime Minister.
00:21:23.700 What do you make of all of this drama that's unfolded here?
00:21:26.440 Yeah, well, I'm certainly not surprised that she's being assertively approached by Liberals.
00:21:31.280 That makes a lot of sense.
00:21:32.680 So this is the NDP person on the panel.
00:21:37.000 Do I even care to go over the Liberal here?
00:21:41.280 Is this interesting?
00:21:42.460 This might be interesting.
00:21:43.560 We can jump over and see what she says about Chrystia Freeland stepping down. 1.00
00:21:46.580 I think obviously she was forced to make this statement today based on some of the criticism
00:21:52.180 that she was receiving from the Conservative Party, which I thought was...
00:21:56.300 And she's referring to Freeland having to say that she's going to leave earlier than
00:22:00.560 later because she was getting criticism for trying to get this new job while still sitting 0.99
00:22:03.760 as an MP.
00:22:04.780 You know, political at best.
00:22:06.740 This was...
00:22:07.740 Chrystia Freeland had said on a number of occasions.
00:22:10.220 She had consulted with the Ethics Commissioner.
00:22:12.540 She... 1.00
00:22:12.980 You know, you look at the Conflict of Interest Act and the rules, and they're pretty clear.
00:22:17.480 And I think this becomes such a challenge, right?
00:22:19.700 Because you can do everything that you're supposed to do.
00:22:22.520 You can follow the rules.
00:22:23.880 You can consult with the commissioner.
00:22:25.500 And at the same time, you can come under a flood of attack because optically, it was
00:22:30.640 a challenging position to be in.
00:22:32.520 So you could...
00:22:33.100 It's not challenging at all.
00:22:35.040 Resign your seat, then go pursue the next job.
00:22:37.580 People don't like the idea that their MPs are like, you know, trying to look over the
00:22:43.320 person in front of them and see what new job they can get.
00:22:46.480 People don't like the idea that someone has revealed that they really weren't focused on
00:22:50.520 their actual job as a member of parliament over the last several months.
00:22:53.880 And they've been basically looking for wherever their soft landing is going to be, whichever
00:22:57.380 new career they're going to take on.
00:22:58.780 I don't care that Freeland is not being paid working for President Zelensky.
00:23:03.780 I don't hate it.
00:23:04.880 She can do whatever she wants.
00:23:05.800 It doesn't bother me.
00:23:07.000 But it bothers me when people are not doing their actual jobs as MP and they're office
00:23:12.960 shopping.
00:23:13.760 They are shopping for different opportunities, different positions.
00:23:16.720 She's also going to go work and be the president or CEO or whatever of the Road Society. 1.00
00:23:22.300 That's obviously a problem.
00:23:23.860 I understand how that really presented an opening for the Conservative Party, and they leapt
00:23:27.680 on it, and then it became obviously too challenging for her to stay in that seat. 0.98
00:23:33.640 I love it.
00:23:34.900 I love it.
00:23:35.380 Of course, it's a Conservatives' pounce story.
00:23:38.720 It's not that it was a bad idea for her to do that.
00:23:41.340 It was bad because the Conservatives jumped on her and made an issue of it, or it was an
00:23:46.060 actual issue and the Conservatives just simply pointed out the issue.
00:23:50.820 But again, we just watched all these panels.
00:23:52.860 Nobody, I can guarantee you from watching them myself, you can watch the whole thing.
00:23:58.580 Nobody ever brings up the angle of what does this say about Mark Carney?
00:24:02.160 What does this say about his government?
00:24:03.540 What does this say about his leadership style?
00:24:05.920 Never!
00:24:06.840 Because the CBC is just liberal propaganda.
00:24:10.060 Now, it's subtle, in part because it's really boring.
00:24:13.600 But if a Conservative issue pops up, it's the worst thing that's ever happened to Pierre
00:24:17.700 Polyev, if something happens to Mark Carney, it's nuanced.
00:24:21.580 Well, it's just, well, Chrystia Freeland just really wanted to go and work for Vladimir
00:24:25.700 Zelensky.
00:24:26.700 Or is it that they don't get along?
00:24:30.340 Is it that she got kicked out as finance minister and replaced, and then she was given some other
00:24:35.620 crappy job around job growth or whatever, and then she ended up resigning from cabinet 0.99
00:24:40.060 because she didn't like it, because she had been thrown under the bus as finance minister?
00:24:44.240 Like, she was a bad finance minister. 1.00
00:24:46.540 But Chrystia Freeland objectively got thrown under the bus as finance minister for many 1.00
00:24:51.380 things that she was forced to implement by Justin Trudeau.
00:24:54.320 That was Mark Carney's idea as the economic advisor.
00:24:57.600 So obviously, they have bad blood between each other.
00:25:00.080 Erskine Smith and Carney have bad blood.
00:25:02.780 He made Erskine Smith housing minister for three weeks before the April election, and then
00:25:07.120 kicked him out right afterwards.
00:25:08.660 Bill Blair, sitting in the back benches, obviously doesn't like being there as a veteran minister,
00:25:13.860 just with no particularly important job.
00:25:17.100 Jonathan Wilkinson, also an old guard Trudeau guy who's been also heavily sidelined.
00:25:22.340 That's why he wants to leave and go work in Europe, because the thing is that Carney
00:25:25.960 basically came into the prime minister's office and just surrounded himself with people he
00:25:31.440 personally likes in a way that I think ended up jarring a lot of people, making them feel
00:25:36.400 disrespected.
00:25:37.560 And now there's this tension within the Liberal Party that the media is really not picking
00:25:41.540 up on deliberately.
00:25:44.040 Anyways, that should be it for today's video, guys.
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00:26:07.160 Did you even make it to this point in the video or did I completely kill off your interest
00:26:11.640 by rambling too much?
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