00:00:00.000Hey guys, Wyatt Claypool here, and welcome back to the National Telegraph YouTube channel.
00:00:06.420You can often tell how bad a political scandal is for somebody, not from the actual details of the scandal, but how they react to it.
00:00:15.840And Prime Minister Mark Carney and his liberal government are not reacting very well to their own developer bailout scandal.
00:00:24.720Carney typically likes to slough issues off quickly, ignore them, not speak to the media
00:00:30.300about it, but the fact that he feels that he actually has to address this issue in detail,
00:00:35.980trying to justify himself in several different ways, demonstrates he knows that this is hurting
00:00:42.160his and the Liberal Party's brand. The funny thing is that the Liberals have blown far more money
00:00:48.440on far stupider things. But this is the first scandal where it's really sort of getting under0.95
00:00:54.520the skin of Canadians knowing that he's bailing out Vancouver area real estate developers on
00:01:00.940luxury condos to maintain their profit margin pretty much. Yes, he has blown billions more
00:01:07.900on dumber things, but those dumber things are more abstract. This is very understandable for0.96
00:01:14.320the average voter, and it is very sleazy in the view of the average voter. In just a second here,
00:01:20.980I want to take you to Mark Carney trying to justify himself at a press conference a few days
00:01:25.860ago. Then I want to get into the Conservative Party leader, Pierre Polyev's reaction to it as well,
00:01:31.400and I want to talk about where this is probably going to go from here. But just saying right out,
00:01:38.400Carney is going to lie a lot, and hopefully you're not going to be too annoyed with me having to
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00:02:04.660Anyways, let's jump into this long section from Carney's press conference addressing
00:02:10.200the bailout scandal, and then we'll get into some of the other videos in just a bit.
00:02:16.060I want to go back to your announcement last week on buying the condo, the vacant units in BC.
00:02:22.960It's taken a lot of people by surprise. Some developers have said they didn't ask for this.
00:02:28.100There were, though, a lot of developers at your fundraiser in BC in February.
00:02:32.480Did anybody ask you for this from the development community?
00:02:35.360uh first off thank you uh for asking me that question uh because not the last bit i'll answer
00:02:43.640that last but um he needs to buy himself time he needs to buy himself time on the question on
00:02:51.120whether or not the developing community the development community in vancouver had basically
00:02:56.640lobbied him for this had they been bringing this up to him at uh at fundraising events
00:03:02.280obviously every time Carney doesn't like a subject he either avoids it or just starts
00:03:08.740umming an eye he's buying himself time right now because very clearly the liberals have a lot of
00:03:15.020connections to the real estate development uh industry in Vancouver Brookfield in fact has a
00:03:21.260heavy stake in real estate in Vancouver so I would find it pretty hard to believe that this was never
00:03:28.240brought up in all of his personal interactions with developers? First off, nobody, no developer
00:03:34.380asked for this for me directly. So that's a simple answer. But I want to go to the broader
00:03:39.800issue. And I want to say up front, I don't think we've done, self-cluded, a particularly good job
00:03:47.200of rolling this out and explaining exactly what it is. So with your indulgence, I'm going to say,
00:03:52.800I think it's important to say a few words of what this is and what this isn't.
00:03:55.520um we start as we always do with Canadians we don't start with developers we don't say what
00:04:02.360yes it's great that there are developers and they build condos what we care about is affordable
00:04:07.100housing and affordable housing in this case uh for the people of British Columbia you see he
00:04:12.140just cares so much about Canadians and specifically British Columbians in this instance and that's why
00:04:17.600he had to give developers with the provincial government as well 3.2 billion dollars now he's
00:04:23.900to try and fudge the numbers in a little bit here to pretend that he has not given nearly as much
00:04:28.940as they actually are giving based on just effectively some timeline shenanigans to say
00:04:34.980well we've only given them a hundred million dollars leaving out that there's way more on
00:04:39.120the docket to give out to the developers in the next you know few years but immediately like he
00:04:46.240had to admit that the rollout of this was bad well the rollout was bad because he told the truth in
00:04:52.320the first press conference where he was announcing this it was a press conference specifically about
00:04:57.220announcing this because he was proud about it and he was saying he was doing this to make up for
00:05:02.060losses that developers were going to have on their luxury condos many of these luxury condos by the
00:05:07.480way were basically being built for the sole purpose of selling them to foreign buyers but
00:05:12.760apparently it's all about affordability now because we're going to spend combined provincial
00:05:17.300in federal dollars 3.2 billion dollars to buy 2200 units that then will have to have even more money
00:05:25.060invested in them because apparently there may be issues with them or they're not fit to be turned
00:05:29.700into affordable units so well that's great we're we're we're doing affordability by spending more
00:05:37.220money than anyone could conceive of to provide like basically like as little housing as possible
00:05:45.460per dollar compared to other projects we could have invested in if we want the government involved
00:05:50.180at all and uh the province of british columbia which initiated the idea uh sees an opportunity
00:05:57.220uh potentially given what's happening in that market so you guys it's the bc government's
00:06:03.780problem in fact we should all be kicking down the door of premier david eby and blaming him
00:06:09.140for tricking mark carney into bailing out these developers mark carney the man who promised he
00:06:14.500knows how to deal with donald trump and that he's a really good negotiator and that he's a successful
00:06:20.100businessman this guy was tricked apparently by the bc government into giving hundreds of millions
00:06:27.380to billions of dollars to bc developers to convert some of these condos that are lying unsold
00:06:35.540to affordable housing particularly rent to buy affordable housing for uh and and you can
00:06:43.220anticipate. So these are people, in many cases, young families, but people who don't have money
00:06:48.500for a down payment, but can build in that equity over time, rent to buy. So there's an opportunity
00:06:55.780there. You have a market in Vancouver, Greater Vancouver, Lower Mainland, which is, you know,
00:07:03.860absorption rates have moved down to about 60%. They've sort of averaged on 80% in a normal
00:07:09.220markets in other words there's more condos that are there we would look we're potentially because
00:07:17.360it's a now he is acting as if somehow like the housing market in the lower mainland's in trouble
00:07:23.660like nobody wants to buy this stuff everyone's moving out of town it's becoming a ghost town
00:07:28.460out in vancouver and new westminster and burnaby just no one's buying these things it's like yeah
00:07:33.640The price is too high. And some of these developers may, who've been making a lot of money over time on the overheated market, they may have to take a haircut in some units. I'm sorry, that's just the free market. Or at least it should be the free market. But Mark Carney and David Eby are going to make sure that they never suffer a loss.
00:07:53.260Tristan Hopper from the National Post had a funny tweet the other day saying,
00:07:57.740well, are we now going to bail out blueberry farmers every year
00:08:01.520because the prices go down in the summer because of all the competition
00:08:04.340and we're going to guarantee them $4.99 a pound for blueberries?
00:08:09.200So every time the price drops, we're going to shill out a bunch of money?
00:10:37.080who just know how to fill out the paperwork
00:10:38.700work properly. And so the Carney's trying to get a win out of this saying, well, if I create any
00:10:46.160amount of affordable housing, I'm in favor of that. Does the cost not matter to you? If we spent
00:10:51.800$2 million, $3 million per unit, would that be okay? Right now, we're spending over a million
00:10:59.420dollars per unit. And that's not even the end game cost for all this to not even give out free
00:11:05.360apartments, then the government is then going to try and find people who have the money to even
00:11:09.940rent it from the government, which means it's not really providing affordable housing for people
00:11:16.500who can't afford it. It's only providing it for people who in theory can afford it. And if we just
00:11:21.220let the free market work, they could have probably bought it from the developer anyways. It's so
00:11:25.440convoluted. Can't do it all. But where we see dislocation, where we see opportunities, where
00:11:30.160that's the best use of the dollar, we will look at that. And certainly when the province brings
00:11:35.020that and brings ideas and brings an opportunity to market where it's there that makes sense to
00:11:39.180look at there's no specific transaction there's no specific contemplated transaction at this stage
00:11:44.860uh but uh there is a there is an opportunity and if it's there and you know i think the the issue
00:11:50.780will be uh if there if and when there are transactions then judge those transactions
00:11:55.660on the basis of the economics of that not on the on the concept so we haven't done a good job of
00:12:00.620which is why one of the reasons why you're asking the question of explaining all the economics of
00:12:05.660that. But there's an opportunity. And if it's there, we'll pursue it for the family.
00:12:12.940And just to be clear, so when you say the feds are looking at 10% of the financing,
00:12:19.980what is the dollar value? I think the dollar value is the overall dollar value contemplated
00:12:26.620is about $1.4 billion, $1.45 billion, which is federal and provincial. So, 10% of that $145
00:12:35.080million. And so, that will be all rent to buy and only in BC? Or will the government also be
00:12:42.340buying these? Well, look, I don't know how much. We'll get someone to give you. It depends on
00:12:50.920what's available, Ms. Walsh. And as things become available, as the structure is there,
00:12:56.620Again, I think the core point, and I'll stop here, is that.
00:13:01.040Yes, one of his handlers probably told him to just shut up because he's only digging himself a deeper hole here.
00:13:08.280There's an opportunity that potentially gets affordable housing to families, particularly those who can't get the down payment together.
00:13:16.580And if that opportunity is there and we can convert condos in order to do that, we will do that with British Columbia because they're looking to do it.
00:13:25.900and that's that's an effective wave that is a more effective way of getting affordable housing
00:13:32.300immediately into people's hands than building again so i stopped there sorry so he's now
00:13:36.940claiming it was only a 10 10 of the cost was what the federal government paid equaling 110 million
00:13:44.380dollars this is a lie this is a lie he is simply just narrowing in on a very specific part of the
00:13:52.220plan and ignoring everything else in fact this is a 3.2 billion dollar joint plan between the bc
00:14:02.300provincial government and the liberal federal government and it's 50 50 meaning that the
00:14:09.260federal government is bailing out developers at to a tune of 1.6 billion dollars now in theory
00:14:17.420they're not the federal government is only paying 110 000 of this pondo purchasing scheme probably
00:14:24.620because it will be mostly managed by the provincial government in their own affordable housing sort of
00:14:30.780you know programs and infrastructure now the thing is that the federal government is still throwing
00:14:36.700in the other what would that be 1.49 billion dollars into this program but it's for development
00:14:45.420fee deferments and other sorts of things to basically compensate developers in the future
00:14:51.180in order to make up for the losses that they were suffering from today.
00:14:54.540So the provincial government was mostly involved in directly buying the condo and apartment units,
00:15:00.940but the federal government is still giving those developers another $1.49 billion.
00:15:08.460You can't just say, well, I'm not buying the apartment. We're not buying the apartments
00:15:12.780directly. We're only 10% of that when it comes to making up for their profit losses. But you can't
00:15:18.700just say, well, but this $1.49 billion I'm giving them, that has nothing to do with it. That's just
00:15:24.580money for other stuff. That's for building things faster. It's like, no, money is fungible. You are
00:15:32.100giving them money. You are bailing them out. Why is this not a federal-wide program where we're
00:15:38.560just going to, you know, ignore, you know, development approval costs. Why aren't we doing
00:15:44.240that? Why aren't we waiving certain other development costs, legal costs for other
00:15:48.260developers? Because they're bailing out the lower mainland developers because they are trying to get
00:15:53.600votes. They're trying to get donations probably. They're trying to raise their approval ratings
00:15:58.540in places where Carney needs good approval ratings for re-election. Now, right now his
00:16:03.380national approval ratings are pretty good. And that's the funny thing. He's trying to like
00:16:07.840reinforce his popularity in the Lower Mainland by doing this. And all this has probably done
00:16:13.800is hurt him badly in that area because it turns out most people are not developers and most people
00:16:19.620are not going to feel like some solidarity with developers just because they're in their area.
00:16:25.060Now, I'm not anti-developer. I'm not like some social sitting around being like
00:16:28.580housing developers, real estate developers, disgusting corporations. I have no problem
00:16:34.600with pretty much any business. I have a problem when businesses, as we're going to get here with
00:16:40.680Federal Conservative Party leader, Pierre Polyev, are being able to privatize gains that they make.
00:16:46.740They are able to privatize profits. And every time they lose money, they can socialize that
00:16:51.600to Canadian taxpayers. That is exactly what's going on. And the federal, even if their total
00:16:57.480cost is only $110 million, this would still be disgusting. Doug Ford is currently having his
00:17:03.140approval ratings fall down a well because of the stupid plane he was trying to buy. It's not that1.00
00:17:09.180much money. I think it was in the tens of millions of dollar range. But it's still causing Ontarians
00:17:14.980to basically completely drop Doug Ford because thematically, it looks terrible. This is the same
00:17:23.940thing for Mark Carney. Relatively, it's not that much money, $110 million, although we know the
00:17:29.340real number is $1.6 billion still. But the thing that gets under people's skin is just how it
00:17:36.880looks. You are simply compensating people so that they never actually suffer a loss while everyone
00:17:43.380else has been having a hard time being able to pay for their own housing costs. Never a bailout
00:17:47.960for average people. Not that I think average people need a bailout. But if we were to put
00:17:52.560out a bailout, maybe it should be for the taxpayers struggling. But instead, it's for developers the
00:17:58.920first time they've ever suffered a loss in this market in a long time there are been some results
00:18:03.720for some people the liberal club of power brokers lobbyists and insiders are getting richer than ever
00:18:08.600making everyone else poor the carny condo bailout is just the latest example and why is he bailing
00:18:15.000out these condo developers who've made billions over the last several decades well and i quote
00:18:21.480the developers don't want to sell at a loss
00:18:27.000who does somebody's going to lose money right the government inflated the housing market
00:18:33.240into a bubble and now the bubble burst so who's going to pay the price mark carney wants you
00:18:40.600the welder the waitress the barber the small business person to pay through your taxes to
00:18:47.480bail out his developer friends you the people who acted responsibly you the ones who've been
00:18:53.480suffering with high prices you're the ones that the carny liberals want to pay this price ironically
00:19:00.200it's the opposite of what he says he says that this is a policy to make housing affordable
00:19:06.120how does bidding up the cost of condos and competing with home buyers to buy them make it
00:19:13.720more affordable, it's exactly the opposite. He's making home ownership even more difficult by
00:19:18.740forcing taxpayers to pay through their taxes to bid against themselves when they try to buy a home.
00:19:26.520And he's absolutely right about that. While, yes, this does, in theory, take some people out of the
00:19:32.840normal condo, apartment, house buying market, because it's going to match people up with rent
00:19:39.200to buy schemes in order to be able to afford a home. I guess more power to you if you're able
00:19:46.480to get into one of those. Fair enough. But it removes some people from the market, but it's
00:19:51.840really removing units from the general market to basically compensate those who are not really even
00:19:57.540part of the market in the first place. Now, we want housing for everybody, but this is not a
00:20:02.340great scheme if you actually want to lower the average price of a house. This is a great way of
00:20:08.000getting maybe 2,200 people home in the lower mainland. A little higher average family size
00:20:14.980or dwelling size of a family is like two or two and a half people. So we got 5,000 people at home
00:20:23.380to the tune of $3.2 billion. Okay. And then we're also going to maintain these sky high
00:20:30.240million dollar prices on everything else in the lower mainland. Good job, guys. But I really like
00:20:36.960what Polyev is doing here with his language around who's going to pay for it, who is actually,
00:20:42.400you know, because someone's going to have to lose here. And effectively, Carney is saying,
00:20:47.480when business rubs it up against the taxpaying public, the taxpaying public should always lose
00:20:52.520in order to protect favored industries of the federal liberals. Overall, though, I actually
00:20:58.160just want to make a comment on this entire press conference that Polyev did in general.
00:21:02.560He did a 56-minute sit-down where he mostly just answered questions from the media.
00:21:07.500I think maybe 15 minutes at POPs was just him doing a bit of a monologue on some of the problems in the country right now and talking about stuff like the developer bailout.
00:21:18.720And then the rest of it was just him taking questions in English and French.
00:21:40.460All he ever does worst is reciting slogans, using too many alliterations, sounding too rehearsed, sounding too much like a character.
00:21:48.320Here, he seems more real, more professional, and more confident than Prime Minister Mark Carney.
00:21:54.720I just want to jump to one more clip just to kind of highlight.
00:21:58.280I thought his general look here was quite good.
00:22:01.220We're kind of moving on from the Mark Carney topic here, but mark my words, this is going to see a big hit to the Liberals' votes in British Columbia, especially people outside the Lower Mainland, but it will also hurt people in the Lower Mainland who are having a hard time buying a home, mostly outside the Lower Mainland just simply because it's like, well, of course, there's a bailout and it's for developers and it's not even for our area.
00:22:28.480But now I want to jump over to this new clip of Peer Poly. I'm just doing a really good breakdown, I think a really good rhetorical attack on the current Liberals' economic policies.
00:22:39.140Mark Harney is just another Liberal. He changed the branding, talking points, and image, but continued and accelerated the Liberal policies that he had advised Justin Trudeau to implement.
00:22:49.600And he's kept most of the same Trudeau-era ministers in place to implement them. What are those policies?
00:22:54.320A year after promising to control spending, the result is that the deficit has doubled.
00:23:02.980Outside of COVID, the $80 billion deficit is the biggest in our history,
00:23:06.620and spending is at its highest level as a share of GDP since 1996.
00:23:12.480He increased spending 5.1% in just over a year, added 13 new and costly government agencies,
00:23:20.040kept all the anti-development liberal laws in place, and then he increased the industrial
00:23:25.940carbon tax six times higher than the one Trudeau left behind. Just because you use conservative
00:23:32.320words does not mean you're doing conservative deeds. I like that he mentioned that at the very
00:23:40.160end there, because this has been the thing I've been wanting conservatives to start honing in on,
00:23:44.420that Carney is not more conservative just because his rhetorical style, his way of dressing,
00:23:52.280speech patterns are more conservative. Yes, Justin Trudeau was a woke left clown. At the same time,0.97
00:23:58.500just because Carney's not wearing a clown nose doesn't mean that he's ideologically
00:24:02.660different from Justin Trudeau. He is still very left-wing on many issues. The areas that he's
00:24:08.560gotten better. Actually reforms that Trudeau started making in the latter half of 2024,
00:24:18.180because he had to make those changes, because obviously immigration was destroying the liberals
00:24:22.800in the polling. So even Trudeau started ratcheting it back. Carney continued ratcheting it back.
00:24:29.320And that's like the one area of more conservative policy we've had from Carney. Everywhere else,
00:24:35.100other than the rhetoric, the actual substantial policy has not changed. And I also think that
00:24:40.120the conservatives should be hitting Carney and the liberals for marketing him as a business
00:24:46.140financial guru. Just start using that term all the time. This guy was supposed to be a business
00:24:52.560and finance guru. He's supposed to be fantastic for public finance. When is that going to start
00:24:58.140happening? Because you have to kind of mock the idea that this guy thinks that he's better than
00:25:03.780the average person with finances. He's a Goldman Sachs man, governor of the Bank of Canada, the
00:25:08.320Bank of England. Go after him for the fact that this guy has been basically coasting on credentials
00:25:13.220and not actually ever having delivered anything substantial outside of investors in Brookfield,
00:25:20.880which was mostly profitable off of government subsidies, grants, and tax breaks. It turns out
00:25:26.180when you put the guy in government as prime minister, who was the advisor to Justin Trudeau
00:25:31.520economics, you're going to still have a bad economy because Trudeau is not somebody who
00:25:36.400liked making decisions for himself. I guarantee you, he never said no to a Mark Carney idea.
00:25:42.340In fact, he had a falling out with Chrystia Freeland, who one of her children's godfather
00:25:48.140is Mark Carney, because she got mad about having to constantly implement terrible Mark Carney
00:25:53.340plans. Remember the HST-GST freeze that happened in November and December, or I think it was
00:26:01.580December and January of 2024 and 2025? That was a Mark Carney plan. And Chrystia Freeland was so
00:26:10.360ticked because she was desperately trying to keep within her $40 billion sort of range for the0.95
00:26:17.860deficit. And what Carney basically forced her to do through Justin Trudeau was blow the deficit
00:26:24.060out to over $60 billion. She was actually going to come in looking kind of okay, like she kind
00:26:30.080of stuck to her financial guardrails a bit. And that did not happen because Carney's harebrained
00:26:35.200scheme was that we can win votes by getting rid of the GST in late December. What? That doesn't
00:26:42.500even sound like a good political move. It's just too complicated and cumbersome and you're going
00:26:46.160tick off all the small businesses. Well, what do I know? I'm not a financial guru like Mark Carney
00:26:51.100is. Anyways, with all that being said, thank you guys for watching. I want to come back either
00:26:57.220later today or tomorrow and talk about the new thing that Carney's doing to try and distract
00:27:01.900from all of his scandals around the Alto train and the developer bailout and other things like
00:27:07.320the Nova Scotia space launch pad, which is trying to create a stupid artificial debate about 240.97
00:27:14.400Sussex. They want to do a big crowdfunding and sort of, you know, a crowd, sort of like a not0.60
00:27:22.760crowd. There's both crowdfunding. And then they're also trying to like solicit the public for ideas
00:27:27.540of redesigns for 24 Sussex. I don't care what Arnie does with 24 Sussex. Spend $100 million
00:27:34.720on it. I actually don't care that much about 24 Sussex. Probably should be heavily renovated or
00:27:40.300even rebuilt. It's not a really good property. But they're trying to bait conservatives into
00:27:45.060stupid rhetorical sort of traps where they're going to say that, oh, I don't think Mark Carney0.98
00:27:50.580should spend any money on it because it's a conservative instinct to say that liberals1.00
00:27:54.380spend too much. I don't care what he spends on 24 Sussex. But the media and the liberal party
00:27:59.540want to have a debate about 24 Sussex because then they're not having to talk about the awful
00:28:04.640economy. So I say this to the conservative party. I say this to every conservative MP and
00:28:09.220conservative, influencers, and just normal average voters online. Do not take the bait on the 24
00:28:16.220Sussex debate. Who cares? Let Carney build himself an entire house made out of candy.
00:28:22.660I don't care. Let's start talking about rationing back spending on completely objectively stupid1.00
00:28:29.120things. I don't care what the prime minister spends on his house. I don't even care what he0.99
00:28:34.200spends on his food for air transportation. Whatever. Have champagne and oysters everywhere
00:28:40.360you go. It's really a drop in the bucket overall when it comes to spending. I care that he is
00:28:45.800bailing out developers to $3.2 billion. We're building a $90-plus billion Alto train that
00:28:51.300nobody wants, that we're leasing a space launch pad in Nova Scotia for $200 million over five
00:28:58.860years or something like that, and we backdated it by a year before we were even leasing it.
00:29:03.160those are the things i care about i don't care about what the prime minister wears eats or
00:29:09.480sleeps that is now a principle of the channel overall carney can show up in like butt flap
00:29:16.080jammies out to press conferences i am not going to be distracted by it anyways although i still
00:29:21.200probably will make a joke about it but i will move on quick anyways that should be it see you guys