The National Telegraph - Wyatt Claypool - June 04, 2025


Carney Liberals in CRISIS - NDP will vote NO on throne speech!

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All does not seem well for Mark Carney's liberal government right now, with the NDP threatening to vote no on the Throne Speech and collapse the government mere months into his tenure as Prime Minister. This is an actual crisis for the liberal government, and it all spawns from a motion vote where the NDP, the Bloc, and the Conservatives join together to try and compel the Liberals to actually table an economic update before the end of the spring session.

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00:00:00.000 Hey guys, Wyatt Claypool here.
00:00:03.080 All does not seem well for Mark Carney's liberal government right now,
00:00:07.420 with the NDP currently threatening that they will vote no on the throne speech
00:00:12.420 and collapse the government mere months into Mark Carney's tenure as the Prime Minister.
00:00:18.420 This is very hilarious and also very predictable.
00:00:22.320 I want to talk a little bit about what the NDP's strategy here,
00:00:26.140 as well as what their statement was.
00:00:27.800 This is an actual crisis for the liberal government,
00:00:31.360 and it all spawns from this motion vote where the NDP, the Bloc, and the Conservatives
00:00:37.120 join together to try and compel the liberals to actually table an economic update
00:00:43.080 or a budget before the end of this spring session.
00:00:46.900 The liberals are putting off till fall, and that happened because the liberals told the NDP
00:00:52.400 it wasn't going to reduce the threshold for them to be an official party
00:00:56.640 and get more of a legislative budget than they do with only seven seats.
00:01:01.780 The current threshold to be an official party is 12.
00:01:04.280 They only have seven.
00:01:05.320 And Carney, I guess, was thinking he was playing hardball, saying to the NDP,
00:01:09.420 no, I'm not going to reduce the threshold.
00:01:10.900 I'm not going to let you guys be an official party.
00:01:13.020 But keep voting for my stuff.
00:01:14.940 So a lot of things to unpack here, guys.
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00:01:55.720 But I want to bring you guys now over to the press conference that just happened
00:02:00.580 and then talk about what I think NDP leader Don Davies is doing.
00:02:05.120 At the very least, Don Davies is a far smarter person than Jagmeet Singh,
00:02:11.140 which is not much of an accomplishment.
00:02:12.980 But it's remarkable because the NDP has had terrible leadership.
00:02:16.460 Since 2019 with Jagmeet Singh.
00:02:19.140 Technically, he became the leader in 2018, but he only got his seat in 2019.
00:02:23.580 Don Davies at least seems to understand that if the NDP is going to be a different party than the Liberals,
00:02:30.080 they can't agree with the Liberals on everything.
00:02:33.180 And this budget issue, this issue of Mark Carney basically snubbing them on all policy negotiations,
00:02:39.740 is a very good way for the NDP to flex their muscles, gain a few points in the polls,
00:02:45.540 and maybe even grow themselves in a new election.
00:02:48.580 Because I think the NDP realizes, hopefully, that regardless if the Conservatives win,
00:02:54.520 if another election is called or not,
00:02:56.120 the NDP needs to survive if it actually wants its agenda passed one day.
00:03:01.080 It can't just die and then hope that the Liberals will carry on their legacy.
00:03:06.000 And if they believe the Liberals have the same agenda as them, why don't they just merge?
00:03:11.300 Fundamentally, I actually do believe the NDP and the Liberals are different parties for a reason,
00:03:15.540 but the line of distinction got heavily blurred with Jagmeet Singh because he was such a Liberal leader,
00:03:21.480 and frankly, Justin Trudeau was such an NDP-ish Liberal.
00:03:25.540 So you had Jagmeet Singh as a very Liberal NDP,
00:03:28.820 and Justin Trudeau was a very NDP Liberal, a very Orange Liberal.
00:03:32.460 Hyper-socially progressive, very pro-unionized Federal Labor,
00:03:37.980 but not really much of a, you know, didn't really care about the private sector,
00:03:41.480 the way the NDP usually doesn't. 0.97
00:03:43.140 And then I found that Jagmeet Singh did not give a crap about working-class people 0.95
00:03:48.140 that the NDP usually was supposed to stand up for. 0.98
00:03:50.960 Again, I'm a conservative. I don't like either party.
00:03:53.380 But from the, from like the strategic side of things,
00:03:56.700 the NDP needs to differentiate itself and be that working-class party again.
00:04:00.520 But here's Don Davies talking about the NDP potentially voting no on the throne speech,
00:04:05.580 which is absolutely a confidence motion.
00:04:09.380 The second thing I want to announce today is that New Democrats met caucus
00:04:12.900 this morning, and we decided that we are going to be voting no to the throne speech.
00:04:18.480 1.2 million Canadians sent New Democrats to this parliament
00:04:22.360 to advocate for working families across this country.
00:04:26.900 And yet, in this throne speech, we don't see those priorities reflected.
00:04:30.820 Millions of Canadians don't have access to an affordable home.
00:04:35.440 They don't have access to timely health care.
00:04:38.560 And they don't have access to the good family-sustaining jobs that they need.
00:04:43.340 And yet, the throne speech doesn't even mention the words health care.
00:04:47.960 You won't even find those words in the throne speech.
00:04:52.000 There is no mention of non-market housing, cooperative housing,
00:04:57.420 or housing for Indigenous people.
00:04:59.160 Some of the most acute needs in this country when it comes to affordable housing.
00:05:03.960 And it foreshadows $28 billion in cuts.
00:05:07.480 That will absolutely hurt working people across this country.
00:05:12.160 I can already tell you that there are things about this where I almost need to defend Mark Carney,
00:05:16.540 and then I have to explain what Don Davies is saying.
00:05:19.240 Who's wrong between Don Davies and Mark Carney in the interplay between the NDP?
00:05:24.580 I think the answer is yes.
00:05:26.460 Both of them are.
00:05:27.920 He's not exactly correct that there's going to be $28 billion in cuts,
00:05:31.940 because do you actually expect the Liberals are going to cut anything?
00:05:35.080 No, they're just going to run the debt up more.
00:05:37.520 He has found that they technically now have a gap in their budget,
00:05:41.620 because they previously said they were going to raise money with tariffs and find efficiencies.
00:05:46.220 So Don Davies and the NDP are slamming those two things together
00:05:49.000 and accusing the Liberals of cutting things.
00:05:51.300 From a political perspective, this is smart for Don Davies to be doing.
00:05:55.440 Accusing the Liberals of moving right and abandoning working-class families,
00:05:59.800 not committing to building public housing and cooperatives and Indigenous housing and whatnot.
00:06:04.440 Be the party that stands up for working people and services.
00:06:08.980 Now, I think they're still wildly off the mark of where Jack Layton had done things right when he was leader.
00:06:14.500 Again, I wouldn't have never voted for Jack Layton.
00:06:16.540 But again, from a purely, you know, like a strategic political perspective,
00:06:22.340 Jack Layton really quartered the market on the sort of hard hat wearing working class voters who relied on public services.
00:06:29.600 Whereas Don Davies is trying to do a little bit of that, but this is still probably 75, 100% better than what Jagmeet Singh was like as leader.
00:06:38.040 So we will be voting no against the throne speech and making sure that the interests of working people across this country are reflected
00:06:46.000 and we'll continue to fight for those measures that we know that so many millions of Canadians and working families need in this country.
00:06:54.120 And so this is, again, an actual good move on the part of the NDP.
00:07:01.420 And just by happenstance, it's very good for Conservatives if another election is called.
00:07:05.960 Now, the Conservatives do need to fire a lot of people in their headquarters because there are a lot of people in their headquarters who have their heads where their hindquarters should be.
00:07:16.460 They don't really know what they're doing when it comes to reaching out to voters and building confidence.
00:07:22.040 They let the Liberals set the narrative in the last election, and I think that they need people who are going to be more visionary in their strategic planning meetings.
00:07:30.940 There's too many people who want to just sit there, and they literally are saying this, and I don't like it.
00:07:35.480 I don't like when the Conservatives start talking about how we're just going to be the government in waiting.
00:07:39.880 We're just going to wait here and wait to inherit the government when Canadians get, you know, tired of the Liberals.
00:07:45.800 I've said it before. The Conservatives need to get good at winning elections.
00:07:50.520 Winning elections. Not waiting for the Liberals to lose them.
00:07:54.200 Will the Liberals eventually lose? Sure, but that's not much of a victory.
00:07:58.280 I think the Conservatives actually need to stake out ground on big vision things that they want to do with the country.
00:08:04.040 When I say that, I mean, like, it can't just be taxed are too high.
00:08:07.300 Let's reduce taxes under $50,000.
00:08:09.800 Crimes up. Let's reduce some of the bail reform laws that the, or let's get rid of the bail reform laws that the Liberals brought in that are letting criminals out.
00:08:17.400 On, you know, on immigration, we'll ratchet it back a little bit.
00:08:19.940 I think on all those issues, including other ones that weren't talked about at all in the last election, the Conservatives need a big, audacious reform that they're proposing.
00:08:28.700 On immigration, slash everything 75% for the next five years. 0.99
00:08:32.580 On taxes, cut taxes 20% across the board.
00:08:36.900 On spending. Commit to cutting wasteful spending.
00:08:40.780 Get rid of DEI. Get rid of needless HR.
00:08:43.720 Reduce administration and move it back to either the front lines or give the money back to taxpayers.
00:08:48.760 That's going to be a big winner of an issue.
00:08:51.440 But now, to get back to the NDP, sorry for going off on all these kind of rabbit holes.
00:08:56.700 What the NDP is trying to do, hopefully, not just for themselves, but for the country as well, is that they are following Jack Layton's lead in 2004.
00:09:07.240 People forget it was Jack Layton who, in fact, was the one who forced the 2006 election.
00:09:13.460 Paul Martin was still the prime minister in 2004, although in a minority government situation.
00:09:18.260 And although, let's even just check the numbers, because I don't actually know the numbers off the top of my head.
00:09:25.400 Forgive me.
00:09:26.520 In 2004, Jack Layton and the NDP were the fourth biggest party, and they had 19 seats.
00:09:32.640 They were up five since the previous election, and Paul Martin's Liberals had 135 seats, and they needed 155 to get things done.
00:09:41.520 So I think they still needed the bloc as well.
00:09:43.980 But I believe Layton was the one who pulled the plug on the government and was threatening to do constantly if the Liberals didn't do exactly what he wanted.
00:09:54.520 Jack Layton didn't care that Stephen Harper became the prime minister in 2006.
00:09:59.720 He didn't care that he became the prime minister again in 2008 or that he won a majority in 2011.
00:10:04.180 Because Jack Layton understood that if the NDP is going to work, and this is any political party, if any political party is going to work, it needs to win seats.
00:10:13.940 And it can't be threatened by the idea that, you know, the conservatives might win, so you can't call an election.
00:10:19.760 That's where Jagmeet Singh constantly fell on his face.
00:10:22.680 He was more scared of the conservatives winning, which is actually a great outcome for the country.
00:10:27.480 Not sure why he's scared of it, but I digress.
00:10:30.560 But he was so scared of the conservatives winning that he wouldn't hold the liberals to account, so he became the party for nobody.
00:10:37.200 It became the party for, like, downtown progressives who love Hamas and are, you know, going to college.
00:10:44.440 That was pretty much it.
00:10:45.660 Anthropology students who hate Israel and love Hamas.
00:10:48.240 And so now the party actually needs to show that it has muscle and stands for more things than just being the radically socially progressive party that agrees with the liberals and pretty much everything else.
00:10:59.600 And hopefully that's what Don Davies is doing.
00:11:01.840 And by saying he's not going to vote with the throne speech is a clear sign that he may be using the Jack Layton playbook.
00:11:08.640 He already has with that motion vote.
00:11:10.440 I don't think Jagmeet Singh would have had the medal to say, no, I'm going to immediately vote against the government.
00:11:15.480 You guys are going to have to table a budget.
00:11:16.940 And frankly, it's a good thing for the NDP to actually say we're more fiscally responsible than the liberals.
00:11:21.820 We want a costed budget.
00:11:23.380 Whereas previously, Jagmeet Singh just kept asking for more dollars to be spent on stuff.
00:11:27.840 Don Davies is doing the same thing, but he's also couching it in the terms of, but we also need fiscal transparency.
00:11:33.780 We need to spend more money, but we also need fiscal transparency.
00:11:36.660 Those two things are incoherent, but that's not how politics works.
00:11:39.820 It doesn't matter if it's incoherent.
00:11:41.400 It might be effective.
00:11:43.060 So, yeah, there's other things going wrong for the liberals right now.
00:11:46.180 It's going to have to be another video, but a liberal independent senator that Justin Trudeau appointed very early on in his time as prime minister has crossed the floor from seeing as an independent.
00:11:57.620 Really, most of the independents are actually to the left of the normal liberal MP.
00:12:01.440 He went from independent, and now he's joined the conservatives.
00:12:04.120 I want to break down his reasoning in the future, but I don't doubt it's because of the radicals that Justin Trudeau was appointing to his Senate slate.
00:12:13.680 And I think this guy has said, this is not the liberal party I signed up for a decade ago.
00:12:18.560 It's a very different thing.
00:12:19.800 And now he's more comfortable with the conservatives.
00:12:22.640 Maybe he was even waiting for Mark Carney to get in.
00:12:25.600 Is Mark Carney going to be any different?
00:12:26.920 Is he going to actually start, you know, righting the fiscal ship?
00:12:32.300 He's going to start reducing the debt?
00:12:33.640 Is he going to stop fighting the left-wing culture wars?
00:12:36.900 And because Carney's obviously not going to change, I think now this guy is going to change his party status.
00:12:42.260 I don't know who it is.
00:12:43.080 I had to read into it.
00:12:43.920 I saw it, but it's one of those things I think it requires its own breakdown because we have the NDP turning on the liberals.
00:12:49.920 We have some liberals turning on the liberals.
00:12:52.740 Mark Carney may seem like a professional steady hand, but I don't think he understands politics well enough to actually keep the liberals in power for long enough to get anything done, potentially.
00:13:03.880 He may be in for four years, maybe.
00:13:05.940 At the same time, right now it seems like Carney has this arrogant side of his personality where he thinks because he said it, it's going to happen.
00:13:13.200 And the NDP has its own priorities.
00:13:16.020 They were snubbed on getting the official party status.
00:13:20.460 They have been snubbed on the throne speech.
00:13:22.740 They've been frankly talked down to.
00:13:24.600 I talked down to them too, but I'm not a liberal.
00:13:27.400 I'm a conservative who would talk down to them for being annoying socialists.
00:13:30.900 But they've been talked down to by their allies.
00:13:34.200 And also, remember, the liberals can't really work with the bloc either.
00:13:39.060 Are the bloc Québécois going to vote yes on a throne speech that was read by King Charles?
00:13:44.760 The one super anti-monarchist party?
00:13:48.320 They're not going to vote for that thing.
00:13:50.100 And the liberals can't really work with them as the bloc Québécois have been attacking the idea of Canadian sovereignty, saying that, you know, Canada's not really a country.
00:13:58.960 It's just a weak collection of provinces.
00:14:01.540 Quebec, see, that's a real country with a real culture and people.
00:14:06.320 Carney can't work with that.
00:14:07.280 He can't be the elbows-up guy and then start working with Yves-Francois Blanchet on issues when Yves-Francois Blanchet is, like, the most anti-Canadian leader in Parliament right now.
00:14:16.620 If he does it, which he could, it will absolutely do a major blow to the liberal party's credibility.
00:14:23.940 But that's neither here nor there for now.
00:14:27.100 Anyways, so that should be it for me today, guys.
00:14:30.920 Sorry if I start ragging on the conservatives more in some of these videos when it comes to strategy.
00:14:35.280 But it is frustrating when I see lobbyists and consultants writing articles saying,
00:14:40.180 this is why Jenny Byrne should stay on as the national director of the party. 0.89
00:14:44.280 I have never seen someone fail at politics this often and this hard.
00:14:48.400 And somehow have people running out of the woodwork to say, why are we blaming her?
00:14:52.160 My goodness, the buck stops with the campaign manager. 0.99
00:14:55.520 And twice now, 2015 and 2025, she has ran a lackluster campaign that could have won and didn't.
00:15:02.100 And somehow we still have people sitting around saying, well, maybe give her a third kick at the can. 1.00
00:15:06.160 No. And one of the major problems with her as leader is that she, or national director,
00:15:11.840 is that we have had a major spate of nominations not being taken seriously in conservative party.
00:15:17.420 People being appointed, people being kicked out of nominations like myself.
00:15:21.400 Remember, I ran in Calgary Signal Hill, could have easily won that nomination,
00:15:25.160 was kicked out because someone else was wanted, who was so incompetent that I even made sure
00:15:29.400 they still didn't win by telling my people to vote against them in the nomination.
00:15:32.580 And then they ran, got appointed to another riding, and then lost that again because they're a bad
00:15:37.200 candidate. And I'm the bad guy here, even mentioning it sometimes. Not that anyone's saying
00:15:42.180 that in the comments, but goodness, you will get attacked for saying like the most obvious truth
00:15:47.860 in the party because it like ruffled two people's feathers. Even if every other person agrees with
00:15:52.260 you, it's nuts. Like 99.9% of the people in the conservative party are perfectly fine with me.
00:15:58.060 They like me, or at least they don't dislike me.
00:16:00.320 And then you'll have other people who like hate your guts for no reason, and it's so weird.
00:16:05.960 And that one of those people is Jenny Byrne. Well, whatever. Can't do anything about it for now.
00:16:10.800 So now I will truly see you guys later. Mini rant at the end, sorry.
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