The National Telegraph - Wyatt Claypool - October 06, 2025


Carney Liberals now projected to LOSE next election!


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11 minutes

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173.8542

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1,927

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113


Summary

Wyatt Claypool breaks down the latest polling numbers and why the Liberals should be panicking right now. The Tories are gaining ground in the polls, and the Liberals are nowhere near as strong as they were a few months ago.


Transcript

00:00:00.160 Ahoy everyone, Wyatt Claypool here, back yet again to paint you a picture of what Canadian
00:00:06.420 politics looks like right now through the polling. It's been a big week. A great week
00:00:12.840 if you're Conservative Party leader Pierre Polyev, and a particularly bad week if you're
00:00:18.560 Mark Carney and the Liberal government. I've said this before and I will keep repeating
00:00:23.760 it. It is very easy to maintain popularity in your first year as the government, whether
00:00:30.200 it's your first time in government or it's a third or fourth term. Naturally, after you
00:00:35.960 win an election, unless it was super close and you only have two seats over the next party
00:00:41.380 down, typically people are going to think positive things about you because, you know, give them
00:00:47.180 a chance. It's kind of that effect that takes place right after the election. People are
00:00:52.040 willing to think that maybe you have it together and that we can have, you know, a peaceful
00:00:57.520 political moment with you, you know, getting some stuff done. The Liberals have not gotten
00:01:03.340 really anything done. In fact, they keep completely flubbing on policy. Either it's a failure of
00:01:09.340 their own or the Conservatives entrap them into doing something stupid like today. They put
00:01:14.380 forward a bill to repeal a lot of the soft on crime legislation and the Liberals rejected
00:01:19.340 it, which is not going to look very good. The Conservatives already dominate the issue
00:01:24.400 of crime and the Liberals just gave it fully to them. But I want to break down what the
00:01:29.960 numbers currently look like and why the Liberals should be panicking right now. So in the past,
00:01:36.900 I've talked about abacus data or innovative research or Angus Reid showing that the Conservatives
00:01:43.040 are either getting really close to Liberals in the polls or outpacing them. That is a big
00:01:49.040 switch from what we saw from all the pollsters a few months ago. But one pollster that was always
00:01:54.380 friendly to the Liberals was Nanos. It's not that they are rigging polls so that the Liberals look
00:02:00.140 better. It's just that the way they do their methodology and their sampling tends to lean
00:02:05.260 more liberal than probably what reality is. But even they are now showing that if an election was held
00:02:13.060 today, based on Sherea T's model on X, who is a great election projectionist, the Conservatives would
00:02:19.980 win the most seats. So the Liberal pollster, the one that is friendly to the Liberals, but still
00:02:27.140 decently realistic, I don't care what Ecos says. Ecos is just on another planet. They'll show like the
00:02:33.000 Liberals leading by 20 points and then the next week they're down to only like five or seven or whatever.
00:02:38.260 It's just a useless pollster. But Nanos, three months ago, in July and June, were showing the
00:02:44.980 Liberals leading by 14 points. And I made a video the other day to show that they're down to only a
00:02:50.660 five-point lead. That was a big deal. It was worth me making a video. They are not even that high
00:02:57.340 anymore. They are collapsing in their best pollster's numbers. Check this out. This is Sherea T's posting
00:03:04.660 the results. It shows the new Nanos poll has the Liberals only at 39.1%, Conservatives at 37.9%,
00:03:13.780 NDP at 11.5%, Block at 6.2%, Greens at 4%, and PPC at 0.9%. Sorry guys, the PPC is not coming back.
00:03:23.760 By the way, Nanos as well as Main Street Research were the two pollsters that picked up on how bad
00:03:30.240 the NDP were going to do in the last election first. I didn't even believe it when I saw it,
00:03:35.500 when they were showing the NDP was only going to get maybe five or six or seven percent week to week
00:03:40.780 as they were rolling their numbers out. I thought that was like absurd. How could a party possibly
00:03:45.520 go from 18 to six when they're going to run a candidate in every riding? That seems impossible,
00:03:50.980 no matter how unpopular the NDP is. You think more incumbents would be able to hold on?
00:03:55.300 And no, they were that unpopular. But now Nanos is showing them bouncing back pretty quickly or
00:04:02.540 pretty fast now. They're down a little bit from the previous week. But overall, since the election,
00:04:09.560 Nanos has shown the NDP increasing. But since the last Nanos poll, which is only a few days ago,
00:04:17.180 the Liberals have dropped 1.6 points and the Conservatives are up by 1.3. Now, I want to
00:04:25.180 bring some other stats on screen in just a second. But this, again, is crazy considering Nanos was the
00:04:31.720 pollster saying the Liberals, in fact, could be at 47, 47 percent about, you know, three months ago.
00:04:39.560 And now they are losing to the Conservatives. And you may say, but Wyatt, they're still leading the
00:04:44.900 Conservatives. They still have, you know, a little less than two points on them. You know,
00:04:49.020 it's 39.1 to 37.9. But this is when, is where we go into voter efficiency, your vote efficiency.
00:04:57.660 Where are your votes located? And does it get you more seats than the other guys' vote allocation?
00:05:03.920 Because the Liberals can run up the score all they want in places like Montreal and downtown Toronto and
00:05:09.840 Vancouver. But if the Conservatives are doing really well in the southwest of Ontario,
00:05:14.140 or they start doing better in Atlantic Canada, or they start cleaning up a few extra seats in
00:05:19.780 Manitoba or the lower mainland or, you know, out on the Vancouver Island, well, they can have a lower
00:05:26.340 overall national vote share, but be doing better than the federal Liberals when it comes to the actual
00:05:32.600 seat projections. So check out this seat projection by Sheree Attiste. He currently, and he was very close
00:05:42.200 to the actual results of the last election. By the way, I believe this guy's only in grade 12, but he
00:05:47.680 truly is really good at aggregating polls and putting up projections of what the election should
00:05:52.900 look like with these numbers. And a lot of the guys, the Great Canadian Bagel is also really good.
00:05:59.300 It's like Sheree Attiste and the Great Canadian Bagel are probably the two best ones, even better than the
00:06:04.540 official pollsters themselves at projecting election results. They don't conduct polls themselves.
00:06:09.760 exactly what they do is take all the numbers, compile them, put them through their own model
00:06:15.160 or algorithm, and then pop out results based on that. And Sheree Attiste is right now showing if an
00:06:21.220 election was held today based on the NANOS numbers, Conservatives would win 164 seats, Liberals in 144,
00:06:30.040 Block would have 21, NDP 12, and Greens 2. That would be a 20-seat gain for the Conservatives
00:06:36.140 and a 25-seat loss for the Liberals. I'm going to take this down for a second, and then I also just
00:06:42.520 want to show you just how things have changed over time. But this is nothing to sneeze at. I know we're
00:06:48.900 multiple years out from probably having another election, but it still matters. People will say,
00:06:55.800 well, there's not going to be an election, so who cares? This may either force Mark Carney to,
00:07:01.180 either he's going to get cold feet, in my opinion, and he's just going to kind of lock up and not have
00:07:05.280 confidence in himself to do anything, or he's actually going to maybe be forced to adopt more
00:07:11.300 Conservative policy in order to try and increase his popularity. Now, I don't actually think that
00:07:16.580 will jive very well with his base, but at the very least, it's demonstrating that Canadians want
00:07:22.140 actual normal again, not the new normal that the Liberals have been pushing over the last several
00:07:27.260 years. But check out how much things have shifted in not very long. Sheree Attiste has what the numbers
00:07:35.520 were back on June 20th to now, and how they've changed. So from June 20th to today, the Liberals
00:07:43.480 have lost 6.1% in the polls, Conservatives have gained 7.1%, NDP have lost 0.7%, Block have gained 0.1%, Greens have
00:07:53.220 gained 1.1%, PPC have dropped 0.6%, and others down about a point. This is very good for Pierre
00:08:03.460 Polyev, obviously that doesn't need to be overstated, but it's good to also see that the Canadian public
00:08:09.980 is paying attention. Now, Mark Carney himself still has a positive approval rating. I genuinely think that
00:08:16.720 a lot of Canadians don't really know enough about the guy, and he's not flamboyantly annoying the way
00:08:22.240 Justin Trudeau was. So I could see his government becoming very unpopular, but he kind of always
00:08:28.120 remains a little bit above water, because he's too boring to really hate. But Canadians can actually
00:08:35.020 say maybe they like Carney as a person, but people are now growing to see, okay, I can like Carney's
00:08:41.540 style, but if the policy sucks, I'm going to go vote for the Conservatives, which is great news,
00:08:47.540 because frankly, over the last few elections, we've seen a lot of Canadians vote for style
00:08:52.260 rather than actual substance. Now, I didn't like Aaron O'Toole, but even then, although I voted PPC
00:08:58.580 in that election because of how just liberal O'Toole was, if you were forced to vote between Trudeau and
00:09:05.560 O'Toole just on policy, you would have to vote for O'Toole. You should have voted for Andrew Scheer.
00:09:11.200 You should have voted for Harper in 2015, and you especially should have been voting for Pierre
00:09:16.280 Polyev in 2025. Obviously, you probably all voted for Pierre Polyev in this last election. But so many
00:09:23.100 Canadians were voting because of elbows up and because, well, let's stick it to Trump. And like
00:09:28.120 we talked about yesterday in the Abacus data poll, we've had Trump and his administration fall from the
00:09:35.080 second biggest issue for Canadians down to number five. And I think we are going to keep seeing it drop
00:09:40.180 throughout the rest of the year as people kind of realize, yeah, Donald Trump is really not the problem
00:09:46.100 with the Canadian economy, with the Canadian, you know, with crime, with drugs, with all the sort of crazy
00:09:54.700 social policies the liberals are pushing. The problems we have are the liberals. Trump can exacerbate those
00:10:02.000 problems by putting a tariff on us, which I don't like. But at the end of the day, 80% of our problems
00:10:08.000 are our own, and people are going to, like, they do not like hearing excuses being made and people
00:10:13.360 constantly playing the trump card in order to kick out of all of, you know, the accountability.
00:10:19.800 Anyways, so this one didn't want to make this too long of a video. Hopefully, you guys appreciate
00:10:24.300 these little polling updates. I'm still at the legislature in Victoria. I will be for the rest of
00:10:29.280 the week, and I'm actually going to be in Saskatchewan. Road trip life is annoying.
00:10:34.580 Uh, you have to set up in corners of hotel rooms and see if you can make the show look semi-decent.
00:10:40.480 Hopefully, my rambling quality is still the same. I wish I had my whiteboard on me.
00:10:45.020 Uh, I used to only do polling videos with stuff on screen, and now I can't, I can't do it without
00:10:49.380 the whiteboard. It feels weird. I can still do it, but you know, it's not, not really, not the full
00:10:54.520 version anymore. But anyways, with that being said, thanks for watching, guys. Make sure to like the video,
00:10:59.500 subscribe to the channel, share it with your friends, leave a comment, and I will see you guys all later.
00:11:04.040 Bye.