The National Telegraph - Wyatt Claypool - January 27, 2026


Carney Lies - Denies apologizing to Donald Trump for WEF comments!


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Mark Carney walks back his anti-U.S. But then the next day, he has to deny he ever said that in front of the Canadian media. And then he apologizes to Donald Trump for the comments he made the day before.

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00:00:00.000 Hey guys, Wyatt Claypool here, and welcome back to the National Telegraph channel.
00:00:06.280 This story is going to feel like a satire of Prime Minister Mark Carney and the Liberals.
00:00:12.760 So apparently, Mark Carney had to effectively apologize to U.S. President Donald Trump
00:00:19.700 and walk back the anti-American comments he made in his World Economic Forum speech in Davos.
00:00:26.260 But then the next day, Mark Carney has to deny he ever did that in front of the Canadian media
00:00:33.780 because the Liberal Party is a giant walking contradiction.
00:00:38.680 Mark Carney has to be super elbows up in front of the Canadian public,
00:00:43.420 but then behind the scenes he will apologize profusely for the words he uses in front of Canadians
00:00:49.420 to the Trump administration because even he knows that he can't just actually tear up
00:00:55.440 our relationship with the United States and think that Canada's economy is going to survive.
00:01:00.960 But this is what I want to break down with you guys today because I find it very funny.
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00:01:57.520 So let's start off with this interview with Treasury Secretary Scott Besant,
00:02:03.780 who claims that Mark Carney had to walk back his comments on the phone with Donald Trump the other day.
00:02:10.360 And interest rates will be down significantly.
00:02:12.980 They're already down quite a bit.
00:02:14.380 Let's talk about the Prime Minister or if you prefer, Governor of Canada.
00:02:17.720 And him threatening to, you know, break economic alliances with the U.S., go with China.
00:02:24.680 The president has threatened 100 percent tariff.
00:02:27.480 What impact would that have?
00:02:29.660 It would be a disaster for Canada.
00:02:32.380 I was in the Oval with the president today.
00:02:34.960 He spoke to Prime Minister Carney,
00:02:38.000 who was very aggressively walking back some of the unfortunate remarks he made at Davos.
00:02:45.460 And, Sean, I'm not sure what the Prime Minister was thinking.
00:02:50.100 Of course, Canada depends on the U.S.
00:02:53.440 There's much more north-south trade than there could ever be east-west trade.
00:02:58.220 He talks about middle countries having to do their own thing. 0.71
00:03:01.720 And I'm old enough to remember when French President Francois Mitterrand tried to go down that route.
00:03:08.260 It failed back in the 80s.
00:03:11.020 It'll fail now.
00:03:13.020 And Canada is linked to the U.S.
00:03:18.560 And the Prime Minister should do what's best for the Canadian people,
00:03:22.320 rather than trying to push his own globalist agenda.
00:03:26.540 Now, I just want to say that I do trust Scott Besant on this.
00:03:31.380 And it's not just because I want to disagree with Mark Carney.
00:03:34.460 Scott Besant, if you've ever observed him over time,
00:03:37.800 tends to be a pretty honest actor and says things straight up,
00:03:40.900 even though he does have to kind of stick to the Trump administration line.
00:03:44.260 But we've caught Mark Carney lying and contradicting himself so many times.
00:03:49.340 So in this case, I am putting all of my money that Scott Besant is telling the truth
00:03:54.800 that Mark Carney was walking back his comments in Davos.
00:03:58.800 The other thing I want to touch on,
00:04:00.800 because Scott Besant is actually more right here than I think he even knows,
00:04:05.040 because he makes the comment that, you know,
00:04:06.980 there's more north-south trade between Canada and the United States
00:04:10.960 than there is east-west trade,
00:04:12.780 which I assume what he means by that
00:04:14.560 is there's more trade between Canada and the United States
00:04:18.300 than Canada and the rest of the world.
00:04:20.240 And probably you can never actually really replace the United States.
00:04:24.300 Even if you just completely cut all of your U.S. trade off
00:04:27.500 and you start only trading goods elsewhere,
00:04:29.120 you probably still wouldn't even be at the levels of exports
00:04:33.620 that you had with the United States if you completely cut them out.
00:04:37.120 Because it's just hard to ship things overseas,
00:04:40.120 over the Atlantic and the Pacific.
00:04:41.500 It's kind of a heavy lift.
00:04:43.360 And a lot of countries can get their supplies from closer-by countries.
00:04:47.020 So you will just always end up having to rely on the U.S. 0.57
00:04:50.360 But what I mean when I say that Scott Besant is more right than he knows
00:04:54.400 is that it's not just that Canada has a better trade relationship
00:04:58.480 between itself and the United States than itself and the rest of the world.
00:05:02.340 But literally, Canada's east-west trade inside of our own country
00:05:07.460 is worse than our trade with the United States.
00:05:10.100 It is easier for most provinces in Canada who have a border with the United States
00:05:15.800 to trade their goods into the U.S. than it is to trade their goods into other parts of Canada.
00:05:21.380 Now, Mark Carney has claimed that he is working on reducing interprovincial trade barriers,
00:05:27.160 although he acts triumphant about it already,
00:05:29.340 despite the fact that basically nothing has happened yet.
00:05:32.860 But, like, it's still easier to trade into the U.S.
00:05:36.140 So the patriotic elbows-up guy has still not delivered on, like, a very key promise of the election.
00:05:42.600 He only made, like, a few promises in the election.
00:05:45.580 He's going to be more fiscally responsible than the Trudeau liberals.
00:05:49.120 He's going to get a trade deal done with the United States,
00:05:51.400 and he's going to reduce interprovincial trade barriers,
00:05:53.740 I think also build up the military, which he also hasn't done.
00:05:56.980 He hasn't done any of those things.
00:05:58.840 In fact, he's basically broke it, or he's, like, effectively not only not fulfilled certain promises,
00:06:06.360 but he's done, like, the reverse.
00:06:07.900 So instead of getting a trade deal signed with the United States,
00:06:10.200 we're getting a trade deal signed with the Chinese government,
00:06:12.820 who he said was our greatest national security threat.
00:06:17.140 But again, this is the giant walking contradiction of the Liberal Party.
00:06:21.260 They go super elbows-up against the Americans, but behind the scenes they're apologizing, 0.88
00:06:25.740 because they need their base to think that they're, you know, fighting back against Trump really hard,
00:06:30.580 but then behind the scenes they have to, like, capitulate.
00:06:33.720 And I'm somebody who doesn't want us to fight with the United States.
00:06:37.440 I also don't want us to capitulate.
00:06:39.320 We should be trying to negotiate from a position of strength and friendship,
00:06:43.560 but we negotiate from a position of weakness and hostility, or weakness and groveling.
00:06:50.140 It's so pathetic to watch.
00:06:51.680 But now let's get to Mark Carney addressing the claim that Scott Bessent had made,
00:06:56.580 that he had walked back his comments and effectively apologized.
00:07:00.340 Scott Bessent says that you walked back your comments on Davos in a conversation with Mr. Trump.
00:07:05.940 Is that the case, Prime Minister?
00:07:08.020 That is a very clear question.
00:07:10.820 He should be able to just say, no, that's not what I did.
00:07:14.060 I stood by what I said.
00:07:15.740 Now, he will eventually say that.
00:07:17.900 It'll take him a minute to get there.
00:07:19.500 As I said, well, first off, the president called me yesterday.
00:07:23.280 We had a very good conversation on a wide range of subjects,
00:07:26.660 ranging from the situation in Ukraine, Venezuela, Arctic security.
00:07:35.900 We discussed as well what...
00:07:40.500 This is what we call in the trade buying time,
00:07:44.360 because he does not know what his lie is going to be in this situation yet.
00:07:48.640 So he's just trying to gish gallop his way into an excuse for, you know,
00:07:54.820 or basically the best way of phrasing what happened with Donald Trump in regards to Davos.
00:07:59.980 What Canada is doing positively, and this is the context of our discussion,
00:08:05.420 what Canada is doing positively to build new partnerships around the world.
00:08:10.100 I explained to him our arrangement with China.
00:08:13.880 I explained to him what we're doing, 12 new deals on four continents in six months.
00:08:19.060 He's impressed.
00:08:20.460 And what we intend to do going forward,
00:08:22.940 as well as the opportunity to, of course, move forward on Kuzma.
00:08:27.860 You will note that Minister LeBlanc had discussions with one of his counterparts
00:08:32.980 in the last 36 hours about some of the modalities and things on the way.
00:08:38.380 We are a minute and five seconds in.
00:08:40.080 I think the question was like four seconds.
00:08:42.040 So an entire minute of not answering the question,
00:08:44.760 and he is about to finally get to it.
00:08:47.480 But to be absolutely clear, and I said this to the president,
00:08:51.100 I meant what I said in Davos.
00:08:54.160 It was clear it was a broader set of issues that Canada was the first country
00:08:59.460 to understand the change in U.S. trade policy that he had initiated,
00:09:04.540 and we're responding to that.
00:09:06.360 We're responding positively by building partnerships abroad.
00:09:09.380 We're responding positively by building at home,
00:09:11.720 and we're prepared to respond positively by building that new relationship through Kuzma.
00:09:16.980 He understood that, and it was a good conversation, as I said.
00:09:19.560 He does not want any follow-up questions.
00:09:21.600 And by the way, you know he's lying because when he's characterizing his comments in Davos
00:09:27.400 that he was standing by, that's not exactly what he said.
00:09:31.360 He didn't just say that, well, we understand that, you know,
00:09:34.680 great powers in the world are tracking their own path on trade,
00:09:37.900 and that might not be for us, so we're going to have to, you know,
00:09:40.580 we're going to have to track out on our own path on trade.
00:09:44.240 Not what he said at all at Davos.
00:09:46.060 He talked about the great power rivalry,
00:09:47.960 and we can't rely on some of the people we used to,
00:09:50.660 and now middle powers like Canada are going to have to go and work on their own,
00:09:56.200 and basically not, like, it was very clearly anti-American.
00:10:00.960 And we know it's anti-American because anti-Americans in Canada were celebrating it as such.
00:10:07.620 Now, I'm not, like, pro-America.
00:10:10.020 I'm just neutral in the sense that, like, I'm not, like, sitting here hoping that whatever happens
00:10:14.240 is only good for the United States.
00:10:15.540 I'm just, you know, pro-Canadian, and I think that the pro-Canadian position
00:10:19.280 is not thumbing our nose at the Americans constantly for no reason.
00:10:23.340 But again, we know that the Canadian anti-Americans, the super hostile anti-Americans in Canada,
00:10:28.760 were celebrating what Carney had said because they liked it,
00:10:32.240 because it fit within their anti-American ideology.
00:10:35.920 But Carney, having to basically run away from his comments,
00:10:40.280 is now having to, like, again, he's basically having to completely re-characterize what had happened.
00:10:47.340 I just want to get to this other clip of Melanie Jolie.
00:10:49.640 I just kind of like these scrums with the liberals.
00:10:51.560 They're not doing so hot in them these days, I find.
00:10:54.620 She's one of these dark horse people that is said that might end up resigning her seat at some point. 1.00
00:11:00.820 I'm not sure if I see it, but based on the incompetence, I wish she would.
00:11:05.180 There's a Korean delegation coming today.
00:11:08.120 You're going to meet with them.
00:11:09.320 Hyundai is part of that delegation.
00:11:11.600 What does that mean for other workers?
00:11:13.480 Well, listen, we're happy to have the Koreans in town.
00:11:16.900 This is following the trip I made back to Korea in already November, actually.
00:11:25.160 And so we've been having a lot of conversations.
00:11:27.920 Of course, the Koreans and the Germans are both trying to win the bid for the submarines.
00:11:33.440 A lot of it has to do with what will be the industrial benefits for Canada.
00:11:39.260 So how can we create jobs out of this really important defense investment that will protect our sovereignty and help also our allies?
00:11:47.600 And so that is what we will have as conversations.
00:11:50.900 What can be done to create more jobs in the country?
00:11:53.280 The reason I want to play that is because I actually just really liked the comment from my friend Kat Canada, who said, when she answers a question, it sounds like she's presenting a high school book report on a book that she didn't actually read.
00:12:06.180 And that's why I wish that somebody like Melanesia Lee would be leaving office soon, if that is an actual true rumor.
00:12:14.620 She's just deeply incompetent. 1.00
00:12:16.480 So many of the people that we send out into the world in order to conduct Canadian foreign policy have just set us back so dramatically.
00:12:24.380 I need to jump over.
00:12:27.060 I want to jump over to some other comments.
00:12:29.900 Actually, let's just jump over to this because this is something that I didn't play yesterday, but it was a very good video edited together by Melissa here.
00:12:39.900 Melissa here made this sort of side by side comparison video between Justin Trudeau and Mark Carney.
00:12:47.160 And she says here, but wait, Carney said he's running a new government, but it's the same old policies, except now there's more low income people in Canada.
00:12:56.100 And this is, of course, commenting on the announcement that Carney had made yesterday in a new GST rebate.
00:13:03.840 That sounds a lot like the old GST rebates that Justin Trudeau would push as policy.
00:13:09.120 That's why we created the new grocery rebate, which will allow an eligible couple with two children to receive up to $467.
00:13:19.600 This is a measure that will help make life more affordable for around 11 million individuals and families.
00:13:26.080 So today we're announcing that our government is launching the new Canada's groceries and essentials benefit.
00:13:34.040 This will deliver hundreds of dollars more into the bank of accounts of more than 12 million Canadians.
00:13:42.760 I just wanted to play this because it's highlighting my point about a lot of what the Liberals are doing right now.
00:13:49.560 They're just trying to buy votes.
00:13:51.940 They're anti-Americanism.
00:13:53.340 They're trying, they're thumbing their nose at the Americans.
00:13:55.460 That's trying to create a rally around the flag effect for the Liberal Party.
00:13:59.560 And then if that doesn't work for you, they're bringing back old Justin Trudeau era schemes of just trying to cut checks right before a vote happens.
00:14:08.520 This guy was supposed to be the fiscally responsible one, you know, in charge of this new government that's going to, you know, clean up a lot of the issues that the Justin Trudeau government had.
00:14:18.240 Well, by cleaning up the problems, apparently they wanted to make everything much, much worse.
00:14:23.860 And they are on track to potentially, with all these new spending items that they keep announcing after the budget was already created, they may actually overcome 2020 in terms of how big of a deficit they're running.
00:14:35.280 And it's a pretty normal year.
00:14:37.600 Yeah, there's the tariff issue.
00:14:39.340 But if we just cut taxes and regulations, we would be in way better shape right now.
00:14:44.620 And now to finish this video off, we do need to play a clip from Laura Babcock to talk about the incoming economic bullets from Canada that Mark Carney's helping us dodge.
00:14:57.920 And so I say to Canadians, don't just be satisfied with the fact that we seem to be dodging the incoming economic bullets coming from the Trump administration.
00:15:09.240 We have to press advantage right now, the hottest brand in the world is not the U.S. as he likes to say, it's actually ours because of Davos and that won't last forever.
00:15:20.280 But while we have this window, I think it's incumbent on every Canadian business person, every Canadian to say, how can I press advantage and press that brand equity advantage and show my pride in Canada, show how determined we are, talk about our products, support each other as we're doing on this podcast.
00:15:37.780 What do we have to offer the world, Canada?
00:15:40.400 Let's amplify other Canadian manufacturers and services and podcasts.
00:15:44.900 Let's make sure that we press this moment.
00:15:47.400 I'm not sure what kind of promotion, brand promotion that podcast is doing for Canada, unless she's sponsored by some anti-psychotic medication company.
00:15:57.780 But this is why it's actually quite difficult to reach many liberals.
00:16:02.640 Many liberals can be talked to and reasoned with in terms of, well, here's the thing Mark Carney's failed on, here's what he promised, and this is why you can't cast another vote for him.
00:16:11.960 But there are a lot of people like Laura Babcock out there who believe that somehow Canada's now the hottest commodity on the planet because of that speech that Mark Carney delivered.
00:16:22.040 And by the way, there was a lot of people who delivered speeches, and apparently all their speeches made whatever jurisdiction they came from the hottest one on the planet.
00:16:30.160 Apparently California is super hot now because of whatever Gavin Newsom said.
00:16:35.240 Apparently France is hotter than ever because Emmanuel Macron went on stage wearing his mirrored sunglasses and said some stuff or whatever.
00:16:42.760 I don't give a crap.
00:16:43.480 But there are so many speeches that were delivered at the World Economic Forum where apparently this is the signaling of a new era of foreign policy because this person said pretentious words into a microphone.
00:16:55.040 What Mark Carney said didn't have any effect on the world stage.
00:16:59.080 The only effect it had, and it was calculated, was to try and keep the liberal coalition together by sounding tough and anti-American and also making it seem like he actually has a plan to replace U.S. trade.
00:17:13.700 He doesn't.
00:17:15.000 Even our trade deal with China is going to give a little bit of relief to select markets like the canola industry.
00:17:22.700 But overall, the liberals' trade plan is failing.
00:17:26.600 There's just no way that you can replace 78% of our exports with just little piecemeal deals here and there in places like Indonesia and England in order to try and ship a little bit of our limber over there or a little bit more canola oil or a little bit more whatever in order to replace the massive amounts that we should be trucking over the southern border.
00:17:50.260 We have to stop being so self-righteous about not trading with the U.S.
00:17:54.040 Like, when people start talking about the United States and why we can't trade with them, they'll so quickly say, like, well, did you see what's happening in Minneapolis?
00:18:01.920 I'm like, we just signed a trade deal with the people who ran over tanks, ran over people with tanks in Tiananmen Square.
00:18:08.080 They have, like, millions of Uyghurs in, like, labor camps and isolated in very specific parts of China, you know, with a security state. 0.85
00:18:15.720 But we're, like, freaking out about Minneapolis.
00:18:18.060 That's why we can't send lumber into the U.S. 1.00
00:18:20.180 That's why we're not allowed to trade with them.
00:18:22.120 That's why we have to go overseas to find new trade partners.
00:18:25.520 It's just so self-destructive what the liberals are doing to the psychology of Canada.
00:18:31.180 I know there's always been this sort of anti-American feeling in many parts of Canada, but the liberals are exploiting it so much that it could end up actually destroying Canada's relationship with the U.S.
00:18:42.640 in the long run, because people are being propagandized into thinking the only right thing to do is to have no actual dealings with the U.S., that to even trade anything with them, to travel to the United States, is a betrayal of Canada.
00:18:56.960 Oh, but you can't always go to Beijing.
00:18:58.880 Oh, but you can't go to Hong Kong.
00:19:00.700 You can't travel to other countries that, you know, fund terrorism or have security states and lock up their own people for saying things the state doesn't like.
00:19:09.380 Those countries are good, but have you seen what ICE is doing?
00:19:15.080 I don't care.
00:19:16.500 Okay.
00:19:17.460 Anyways, with that all being said, thank you guys for watching this episode of the show.
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