Carney playing Dangerous Game - Liberals burn Canada-US relations for political game!
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Mark Carney is stuck between a rock and a hard place when it comes to his relationship with the United States. He wants to please his base, but he also needs to keep the business liberals from getting tired of all the anti-American stuff he says and voting for the Conservatives so as to not risk blowing up the Canada-U.S. relationship for his own sleazy political gain. And so he uses a tactic called "lying" to do just that.
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Hey guys, Wyatt Claypool here, and welcome back to the National Telegraph YouTube channel.
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Right now, Prime Minister Mark Carney is playing a very dangerous game when it comes to Canada-U.S.
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relations. On one hand, Carney wants to use anti-American rhetoric to shore up the Liberal
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Party's base in case of a snap election in 2026. At the same time, he's gotten himself into hot
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water with U.S. President Donald Trump and his administration. And although most of the liberal
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base is very anti-American, there's probably about, you know, 25%, 30% of liberals who understand that
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you can't just throw away our relationship with the U.S. for political gain. That would be a complete
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disaster for our economy at the very least. So right now, Carney is trying to please what we will call
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the Laura Babcock liberals, the crazy anti-American liberals who just want to see Carney constantly
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attack the U.S. And then he also needs to keep the business liberals from getting tired of all
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the anti-American stuff and voting for the conservatives as to not risk completely blowing
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up the Canada-U.S. relationship for Carney's own sleazy political gain. And Carney has settled on a
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tactic to try and marry these two priorities together. It's called lying. Carney is going to
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keep saying anti-American things while claiming that whatever he said was not actually anti-American
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and that we have a fantastic relationship with the U.S. In just a second here, I want to play you guys a
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clip of Carney saying that we have a good relationship with the U.S. And then I want to explain the ongoing
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lie that he's engaging in. And then we'll move on to some other clips of liberals accusing the
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conservatives of being mega conservatives because they have nothing. And so now they're just going
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to smear their opposition as somehow being like foreign Republican insurgents in Canada.
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But now, without further ado, here is Mark Carney saying our relationship with the U.S. is great.
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Given the current state relations with the U.S., what hope do you have that Kuzma will be renewed?
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Look, relations are good. We have good conversations, good back and forth.
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There's a lot of work to be done for the review of Kuzma. That work has started, both reviews in the
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United States, I mean, internal reviews and consultations. That work has started in Mexico.
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It's finished in Canada. We'll be ready to sit down and the process will continue.
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It moves moves on immediately. No follow up. But just hear what he said at the very start when he said
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Given the current state relations with the U.S., what hope do you have that Kuzma will be renewed after July?
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Relations are good. Well, the president and his secretary of the treasury, Scott Besant,
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had claimed that Carney had to aggressively walk back the anti-American comments that he had made at the
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World Economic Forum in Davos. But of course, Carney, like I've been describing, is stuck between this
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rock and hard place where half his base or more than half his base want him to just rip the U.S.
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and rip Donald Trump all of the time. And then there's a smaller number of liberals who he can't
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win without their support, who also are getting kind of tired of how Carney keeps poking the United
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States in the eye and keeps acting like this is all Donald Trump's fault. Eventually, Canada has to
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actually, you know, contribute something to actually getting a deal signed. But right now, it seems like
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a big bait and switch. Every once in a while, Carney pretends like he wants to sign a deal and then him
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or Doug Ford or David Eby then attack the United States and then set the negotiations back a bit.
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Like the thing is that we can always say, well, the Americans are being too sensitive.
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Okay, sure. At the same time, would any of these Canadian liberals put up with this stuff being
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said from the other side? Because frequently, the U.S. and Trump say and do far less. And then
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they freak out and say, this is this is why we can't sign a deal with the U.S. This is why we need
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to go and sign a deal with China. But you'll remember the other day, and maybe I can bring up
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the Fox News clip with Scott Besson here, just for a reminder. But remember that when Carney was then
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asked, because we had what was his name? Scott Besson claimed that Carney aggressively walked
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back what he said at Davos. But when Carney addressed it, effectively, what he claimed was
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that he basically didn't actually lie, or he didn't actually walk anything back because he simply,
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you know, he or he told the president that he meant what he said. But in this clip here, I just want to
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show you guys the sort of trick he used in order to both pretend like he's standing by his statements
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at the same time, he's trying to recontextualize them in a less aggressive way.
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Scott Besson says that you walked back your comments on Davos in a conversation with Mr. Trump. Is that the case,
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As I said, well, first off, I'm going to skip ahead. Because if you guys have seen this clip before,
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you will know it takes him over a minute to actually address that question there.
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About some of the modalities and things on the way forward. But to be absolutely clear,
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and I said this to the to the president, I meant what I said in in Davos.
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So he says, I meant what I said in Davos, but then see the rhetorical sleight of hand he uses here.
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It was clear it was a broader set of issues that Canada was the first country to understand the
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change in US trade policy that he had initiated. And we're responding to that we're responding
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positively by building partnerships abroad, we're responding positively by building at home.
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And we're prepared to respond positively by building that new relationship through Kuzma.
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He understood that and it was a good conversation, as I say.
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So that was not what he said at Davos, though. So he can always say, well, I'm not running away
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from what I said. I stand by what I said. And what I said was, I understood that the US wanted to
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change the way it trades. And we were the first to react. And Canada is taking some positive steps
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in trying to find new avenues for trade and build more at home. Like, that's not what you said.
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You were talking about the great power rivalry that Canada and other middle powers need to reject.
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And the whole implication was that Canada and many other parts of the world should basically
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start moving away from the United States and moving towards other allies. And in that speech,
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it was so hypocritical, because he claimed that like, well, we don't want to be part of this great
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power rivalry. And it's like, weren't you the guy four days ago signing a deal with Xi Jinping?
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Didn't you pick a side here? And people could say, well, there's nothing wrong with a trade deal.
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Well, the problem is, he didn't just sign a trade deal. He wants to have a stronger security
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relationship. He wants to have stronger cultural ties, things that the United States, if they were
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dealing with the Chinese, would never agree to, because it's a really stupid thing to get on board
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with. Anyways, but now I want to move on to another clip. And this is what the liberals whole strategy
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seems to be now here. It's just attacking the conservatives for being mega in some way.
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So we're going to start off with the first speaker here on this CBC panel. And then
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former conservative MP Lisa Wray is going to step in and at least talk some sense into a panel that
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usually probably wouldn't have much if she wasn't there.
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I'll provide the other standpoint. But instead, what we have is the conservatives in particular
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defaulting to a mega messaging standpoint that I think works against them. And if nothing else,
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just draws other Canadians around to the defense of the prime minister.
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Lisa, what are your thoughts on that one? I have seen a few MPs jumping on it and others
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saying more proof that Mark Carney is lying. I think it was Roman Baber who put that on his
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What kind of setup was that? This is the thing I can't stand about David Cochran. I don't want to
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go on about it too much, but he's such a bad host of power and politics. He so frequently just
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outright agrees with more left-wing panelists. And then he poisons the well by just going out
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there and saying, well, you know, a lot of MPs have been saying this and like, you know,
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and this is a big concern out there. It's like, dude, you're a host. Go to the next guest. Nobody
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wants to hear your opinion if you're supposed to be the neutral host.
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He's going to want to talk about individuals who are making these comments, but it's a hell of a
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generalization. Those are not any kind of talking points coming from the Conservative Party,
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I can assure you of that. And it's interesting to me that once again, we're talking about the
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Conservative's reaction to something that I believe the Prime Minister fumbled, which is he should have
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put the readout out before the Americans had a chance to give a narrative on what happened on the
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call. But it's our fault as Conservatives because somebody said something somewhere in the bowels of
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the internet. I don't think that's fair. And I think it's taking up too much oxygen. I'm happy that
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the President and the Prime Minister are talking. I wish they would give better readouts. I wish the
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Americans didn't exaggerate and lie to the extent that they do. But it doesn't mean the fact that
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we shouldn't be getting some kind of information or that we blame Conservatives or try to label them
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mega, which I'm quite frankly, I'm sick of as well. Okay, well, look, this is going to get clipped and
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I'm going to get packed for it. I wasn't suggesting I was just letting asking you to respond to what Andrew
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raised, right? No, that wasn't you at all. Okay. But I would say, though, that what David does is
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he cosigns what other people say. He doesn't say it himself. He just agrees that that that is a
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common belief out there when it's not a common belief. The one thing I would disagree with Lisa
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Radon is that it's not anti-Canadian for me to say this, but she's probably playing a little bit of
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the game here. The Americans were not lying about the readout. They said that Mark Carney aggressively
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walked back his comments in Davos. He did. You know, on the call, he doesn't start like they're
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not like on the readout of the call. He's not like babbling incoherently and being like, I'm so sorry.
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I wish I didn't say those things. Please forgive me. Obviously, he didn't do that. What Carney did
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was he completely changed the meaning of what he said when explaining it to Trump and the Americans
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because he's really overstepped and he's put at risk our ability to get a trade deal signed.
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And so now he has to basically, at least to the Americans, at least to certain little bits and
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pieces towards Canadian media too, he has to pretend like, oh no, I was just talking about
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how Canada needs to stand up on its own two feet and we understand the new trade relationship that
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America wants. That was not the tone. He's been saying stuff like our relationship as we've known
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it with the United States is over. And also like a lot of this other stuff where he's been
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doing his old elbows up rhetoric that has obviously been aggressively targeted at the United States.
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And now it's his right to do that. But at the same time, it's the right of the Americans to also
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not like that, not want to work with us. That Doug Ford ad, that old one with the Reagan stuff,
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that was one of the dumbest political moves I've ever seen. And it's because when you're negotiating
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with somebody, especially when they have more power at the negotiating table,
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you don't give them reason to get up and walk out of the room and force you to give a concession just
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to get them to come back. But that's what Carney keeps doing because his elbows up stuff that he
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does in order to gird up his liberal base is, it doesn't do very well. And when it comes to a
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negotiation. So every time Mark Carney tries to please his liberal base, he's literally setting the
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country back, which means he's effectively hurting our trade relationship with the U.S., attempting to win a
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majority government. That's what we have going on here. I want to jump over now to another video
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here. It's just, well, actually, let's quickly grab this video of, what's his name? I always forget
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what this guy's name is. You'll know, it's this guy. It's this guy who looks like if Matthew Roderick
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was a Quebec liberal. He was reacting to the fact that the UK Prime Minister, Keir Starmer, who is in fact
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from the Labour Party, basically distanced himself from the things Mark Carney said. Because everyone
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around the planet knew what Carney was saying. They knew it was an attack on the U.S. And now he
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is going to be asked, again, I don't know what this guy's name is. I've seen it in the past day. But like
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so many liberals, he's very forgettable. But here's him responding to journalists asking him about what
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Keir Starmer said. So he's admitting now that in fact, Mark Carney's tone was aggressive. It was
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supposed to be slightly offensive. The whole idea is that he's saying the things that people out loud,
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the people, the things that people are thinking. Now, a characterization like that usually infers
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the whole idea is something that people are usually too polite to say, or they don't want to get into
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a conflict. So when Carney tries to recontextualize what he said to being, oh, no, I was respecting the
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fact that the U.S. has a new trade kind of strategy they're pursuing. And I was just acknowledging that
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Canada has to react to that by building more at home. And, you know, maybe finding other trade partners.
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That's not what he meant. Because even his own liberals are effectively admitting that he was
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saying, quote, unquote, like the quiet part out loud that other people don't say.
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Keir Starmer knows that it was meant to be a jab, which is why he's distancing himself from Carney's
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A lot of people thought private prime minister said out loud with a lot of people thought privately.
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And I can speak for him, but I would say the vision that he presented is one that resonated. And I can
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tell you, Canada is really a country where people look up now for investments, for our values resonate.
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And certainly we're happy to work with all our partners.
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So it's a big dodge. But effectively, that's him admitting the fact that, yeah, Carney was jabbing
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him because the whole idea is he was saying the thing that other people won't say out loud.
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But in the middle of all this, because, of course, the liberals have to keep gaslighting their own
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base. They they literally posted this on the prime minister of Canada's ex account, not Mark Carney's
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ex account, the prime minister of Canada's like the official PMO's office one.
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They in the midst of Mark Carney, because this is January 28. This is posted in the midst of him
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denying that he had any sort of aggressive tone, any anti-American tone. The liberal party posts this
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or the prime minister's office of Canada was this. The old order is not coming back. Nostalgia is not
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a strategy from the fracture. We can build something better, stronger and more just and is choosing
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honesty, strength and action. Now, this implies that the old order, which was the United States
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basically being the main superpower of the planet, that that is that is somehow these days out of
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line with the values of honesty, strength and action. And when you say fracture, you're saying
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that there's something fractured that's because of the United States, because that's what he keeps
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saying in all of his other speeches. And so this is the speech that went along with it from the
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We have capital talent. We also have a government with immense fiscal capacity to act decisively.
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And we have the values to which many others aspire. Canada is a pluralistic society that works.
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Our public square is loud, diverse and free. Canadians remain committed to sustainability.
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We are a stable and reliable partner in a world that is anything but.
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Now, let's be clear. That was, again, a shot at the Americans. Someone could say, well, that could also
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include China as well. No, it can't because we just signed a deal with them. We just said that we have
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a lot of shared values and we want to culturally integrate more with them and we want to integrate
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more on security and work better together. He signaled that they're fundamentally a very Canadian
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kind of a group of people to work with in terms of all the shared values. But all of his other
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rhetoric has always been talking about how whenever he explicitly calls down a country, he's always
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calling down the United States. And so, no, Carney cannot run away from what he's doing. I think
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that this could blow up in his face. It could pay big dividends to Carney, too. It could pay him big
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dividends to go anti-American, shore up the left side of the Liberal Party and make sure they show up in
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the next election. But right now, he's kind of on a tightrope, as I've been saying, where if he goes
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too much and he offends the Americans too much, you could have a lot of business liberals who voted
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Liberal in this last election who maybe don't even exactly like Trump themselves. But they don't
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exactly want Carney to take his personal hatred for Trump and destroy Canada's ability to get a trade
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deal signed. But anyways, that should be it for this video, guys. Thank you for watching.
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I actually tried to record this video yesterday, and I just couldn't get it done. I had to switch
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topics, and I finally did it today. But no, got a haircut, put on a suit. I'm going to head out to
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the Conservative Party convention here in Calgary in a bit. I'm actually going to go pick up my party
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leader, Dallas Brody, at the airport, and then we're going to go on a mini podcast tour while we're
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in town as well. Lots of stuff going on. If you're going to the convention, come up and say hi,
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especially if you're from British Columbia, because I'll give you a 1BC pin. But for the rest of you,
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just stay in at home. Thank you guys all for watching. Like, share, subscribe, and I'll see you all later.