The National Telegraph - Wyatt Claypool - April 08, 2025


Carney rally flops compared to Poilievre's 10,000 supporter crowd!


Episode Stats

Length

17 minutes

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184.99553

Word Count

3,167

Sentence Count

198

Misogynist Sentences

5

Hate Speech Sentences

4


Summary

Mark Carney's rally in Richmond, BC yesterday was a massive success compared to Pierre Polyev's Canada First rally in Edmonton last week. Polyev was able to get over 15,000 people in attendance, while Carney managed to get about 1,500 to 2,000.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 As much as the Liberal Party and the legacy media have been trying to pretend that Pierre Polyev's rally sizes don't indicate anything significant about the direction of the Canadian election, obviously they know it's significant.
00:00:14.180 How do I know that the Liberals and the legacy media know it's significant?
00:00:18.320 Well, now Mark Carney and the Liberals are trying to recreate Pierre Polyev's style rallies.
00:00:23.700 The problem is, is that Mark Carney is not Pierre Polyev.
00:00:26.800 In fact, I'm not really sure if Mark Carney's even a real boy, maybe he'll become one one day, but for now, because he lacks charisma and the ability to project realness, his rallies are a fraction of the size of what Pierre Polyev is putting on.
00:00:41.520 And I gotta give him props. Carney took a big swing and he actually was able to get out maybe 1,500 to 2,000 people yesterday in Richmond, and you know, that's about three or four times bigger than what his normal rallies are.
00:00:55.200 But when you put it up against what Polyev was able to do in Edmonton, it is absolutely pathetic by comparison.
00:01:03.560 Again, Carney's rally is big for a Canadian political rally, but based on what I heard from people who were in attendance yesterday just checking it out, they really tried hard to bring people into that rally to make it as big as possible.
00:01:16.720 And they were able to do 1,500 to 2,000.
00:01:20.260 Polyev was able to do what people are saying is 15,000.
00:01:24.480 I think it's more like 10,000.
00:01:26.560 That is insane that he is like quintupled what Mark Carney did.
00:01:31.920 And I don't even think Polyev is exactly trying that hard.
00:01:34.560 Yeah, they want a lot of people to show up, but at the same time, they do rallies so often.
00:01:40.180 I think they're just having to announce dates, tell people to show up, and that's it.
00:01:43.800 Where at Carney's rally, it sounded like they were really telling people, like, you gotta show up, just drive in from Surrey, just drive in from New West Winchester, drive in from Abbotsford.
00:01:52.540 We just need warm bodies in the room.
00:01:54.580 And yeah, that's good for Carney, but this is great for Pierre Polyev.
00:01:59.720 Like, 10,000 people, maybe 11,000, all singing the Canadian National Anthem.
00:02:05.240 This is how you win an election.
00:02:07.520 You pump up the patriotism in an optimistic light.
00:02:10.640 You don't do the defeatism of Mark Carney talking about how those big, nasty Americans are going to destroy our country.
00:02:16.720 Our home and native land, truth, age, and love, in the right side's command.
00:02:31.880 That's it!
00:02:34.020 Yeah, and it just keeps going.
00:02:36.040 Just absolutely a massive turnout for Polyev on, again, what are short-notice rallies?
00:02:41.420 They announce these things, like, two days before, and oftentimes, the day before, they have to change venues, because there's just not enough room for everybody in the previous venue.
00:02:51.960 Whereas Carney, he's filling up a conference center that's, like, the size of what Polyev did for the Canada First rally, and that rally was more about the media coming out of it.
00:03:01.820 It was about Polyev being able to speak to the camera at a podium, announcing kind of the new platform direction of the Conservative Party.
00:03:09.380 That was not about bringing in as many people as humanly possible.
00:03:13.380 Polyev can now attempt to try and fill up as big a venue as he can possibly find.
00:03:17.540 If he did that thing in Calgary, that's when, I would say, he can truly probably get to about 15,000 people.
00:03:24.280 Polyev was even asked about his rally yesterday, and I thought this was a funny clip where, you know, the media started finally talking about how significant this is, because it is significant.
00:03:35.820 And also, they can't ignore it at the same time that Carney and the Liberals are trying to celebrate bringing in literally a fifth of what Polyev was able to bring in.
00:03:44.800 How did you like our rally last night?
00:03:46.000 Well, I wanted to ask about your rallies.
00:03:48.100 Thank you.
00:03:48.780 And whether size matters.
00:03:50.180 I actually want to know about your rallies and what your strategy is and who you're talking to, because you bring up things like woke mob, sentry initiative, bulldozing the CBC.
00:04:03.700 I'm exaggerating, but getting rid of CBC HQ.
00:04:06.240 At what point are you just talking in an echo chamber to people who already feel that way?
00:04:11.580 Or do you feel like these are broadening the tent of support to liberal or undecided voters to get them on board with your campaign?
00:04:18.580 Okay, just saying, you can't really call it an echo chamber in Canadian politics if you can bring out 10,000 people.
00:04:25.220 Let's even just say it was 5,000.
00:04:27.560 That's not a small echo chamber.
00:04:29.980 Carney is the one with a very small echo chamber.
00:04:32.860 People who just want to talk about how bad Trump is, and they actually don't care about any of the political issues.
00:04:37.240 It is what I would call political hobbyists, retired political hobbyists, who want Canadian politics to actually be about American politics, because American politics are exciting.
00:04:47.360 And isn't it so much more exciting when the election is about us fighting back against Donald Trump, rather than talking about housing and immigration and government spending and taxes and all that stuff?
00:04:57.440 I like how they can go from, he has massive amounts of people at his rallies, to, does this indicate you actually don't have a lot of support?
00:05:04.640 Like, my goodness.
00:05:05.640 I think it's pretty broad.
00:05:07.400 I think, how many people do you think we had last night?
00:05:10.460 Thousands.
00:05:11.560 Well, that's pretty obvious.
00:05:12.980 I think you can be more precise than that.
00:05:15.000 I don't, I mean, the party said 10,000 register, there's reports of 15, I really can't say.
00:05:21.940 One last question.
00:05:22.760 When was the last time we had a rally that big in Canada?
00:05:26.080 I don't know.
00:05:26.740 I've never been to one, a political rally that big, I don't think.
00:05:29.300 You know a lot about politics.
00:05:31.080 You're a very well-informed person.
00:05:32.620 I know that if there were a bigger rally than that, you would know about it.
00:05:36.180 I think so.
00:05:37.580 But I think it was pretty incredible.
00:05:39.180 Were any of you there?
00:05:40.160 Yes.
00:05:40.520 This is magic, eh?
00:05:42.100 Wow.
00:05:44.880 Incredible.
00:05:45.320 No doubt the liberals are going to try and use Polly of talking about the rally sides
00:05:51.100 and say, he's just like Trump.
00:05:53.180 You know what?
00:05:53.600 In this case, I actually want them to try and compare Polly of to Trump.
00:05:57.160 But usually it's just annoyingly stupid that they do it.
00:05:59.660 But right now, all they're going to do is just draw attention to the fact that Polly of
00:06:04.380 on short notice can bring 10,000 people into an event center to hear him speak, into a giant
00:06:08.700 massive warehouse to hear him speak.
00:06:11.480 It's significant.
00:06:12.600 It's obviously significant.
00:06:14.340 And trying to compare him on this front to Trump is just going to indicate.
00:06:17.220 You know that Polly of actually has a lot of support.
00:06:19.760 You know that he's able to rally that many people.
00:06:21.740 And like, I know Edmonton federally is pretty conservative, but there's like three or four
00:06:26.160 ridings in that city that are either NDP or liberal.
00:06:30.140 It's not like coming into Calgary.
00:06:32.320 And by the way, Carney's rally, which again, they are trying to ballyhoo this thing as
00:06:36.860 like a massive, massive win for the liberals, how many people they were able to bring in.
00:06:43.880 You got to remember, though, that this is about as many people as Polly of was able to
00:06:49.600 bring in in Charlottetown.
00:06:51.740 In like Fredericton, places that are not default liberal ridings.
00:06:56.960 Let's see, like they're even putting out this video or they're not default conservative
00:07:00.400 ridings, but the liberals are putting up this video trying to like demonstrate how big the
00:07:04.900 rallies are.
00:07:16.080 But even then, I will also point out that there is a very particular type of
00:07:21.600 demographic that is showing up to Mark Carney rallies.
00:07:25.380 And it's not going after anyone.
00:07:27.080 In fact, the demographics who watch my videos tend to be in the older age brackets just simply
00:07:33.940 because if you're older, you tend to care about the news more.
00:07:36.580 But the thing is, with Mark Carney's people, it's all basically CBC viewers.
00:07:40.180 It's older retired people who are default liberals because they watch the CBC all day and they
00:07:46.120 just stew over how much they hate Donald Trump.
00:07:48.240 And obviously, you don't have to like Donald Trump.
00:07:51.020 You can disagree with him on stuff.
00:07:52.520 I disagree with him on stuff.
00:07:54.180 But the thing is that it's the thing is that I think this is the brick wall that the liberals
00:07:58.580 are going to be running into soon that.
00:08:00.960 They just kind of appeal to a very specific type of person and all their soft support might
00:08:06.620 go away.
00:08:07.220 Their soft support might go away after the debate when people realize, oh, yeah, he's not
00:08:11.260 really like this job, like this big warrior who's fighting back against Trump.
00:08:15.240 He's, in fact, a boring accountant who's not particularly good at his job.
00:08:19.680 Like he's been the economic advisor for five years under Justin Trudeau.
00:08:23.740 And we're supposed to pretend like any good idea was his idea.
00:08:27.620 The problem is there wasn't any good ideas over the past five years.
00:08:30.680 And by the way, do you think that Justin Trudeau, the guy who was not qualified to lick stamps
00:08:36.120 at a post office, was calling shots on the economy?
00:08:38.880 And Chrystia Freeland even up and left her position as finance ministry because she wasn't
00:08:42.460 allowed to make decisions over the past five years.
00:08:44.360 And she eventually got frustrated.
00:08:46.020 That is indicating the person who was driving the ship for five years was just Mark Hardy.
00:08:51.640 It was just him.
00:08:52.640 And for some reason, he's allowed to whitewash his record.
00:08:55.300 Now I just want to quickly jump over to the ads.
00:08:57.620 That the liberals and conservatives are running because we kind of have almost mirror images
00:09:02.700 of the exact same ads coming from the liberals and conservatives right now.
00:09:08.040 So here is the liberals ad against Pierre Polyev.
00:09:11.840 How do you address the concerns of being too closely aligned to a foreign government that
00:09:17.440 is threatening Canada and is destroying its own country right now?
00:09:22.460 Well, your question is false.
00:09:24.360 Everything is broken.
00:09:25.460 Everything is broken.
00:09:26.820 The left-wing censorship regime.
00:09:28.740 Their woke censorship ideology.
00:09:30.260 I like how he said the false thing as if Polyev was saying, no, he's not actually destroying
00:09:35.200 his country.
00:09:35.940 By the way, obviously, Trump's not actually destroying the U.S.
00:09:39.460 It's such a stupidly hyperbolic question.
00:09:41.880 But Polyev here, he was saying that's false that the liberals or like he basically goes into
00:09:46.960 how the liberals have weakened our economy and how like, don't we need to fight back stronger
00:09:51.000 kind of dumb questions?
00:09:52.180 Like, well, no, we need to, you know, improve our economy domestically.
00:09:55.360 And, you know, that ad will probably appeal to a certain type of person who really wants
00:10:10.840 to feel like there's a Trump-like figure to fight back against in Canadian politics.
00:10:15.180 Because, again, there's a lot of Canadians who are just so default left that they naturally
00:10:19.980 are just going to side against whoever seems right.
00:10:23.980 And that's an easy hit on Polyev.
00:10:26.480 But the thing is, I actually think the conservatives ad is far more effective on this demographic
00:10:31.660 of people who really care about fighting it back against Trump.
00:10:34.460 Naturally, there's a lot of conservatives, like myself, who actually don't mind Trump,
00:10:38.540 especially in domestic policies.
00:10:40.220 I don't always like Trump on foreign policy.
00:10:42.120 I don't like him on trade exactly.
00:10:44.360 But the thing is that the conservatives, oddly enough, even if half their base doesn't mind
00:10:48.740 Trump, they have a much better attack angle on the liberals when it comes to Trump.
00:10:52.360 Why does Trump want a fourth liberal term?
00:10:54.880 I think it's easier to deal actually with a liberal.
00:10:58.280 Because Mark Carney will continue the same liberal policies that have made Canada weak.
00:11:02.720 He'll keep oil in the ground.
00:11:04.840 Oil reserves, proven reserves need to stay in the ground.
00:11:07.780 And he'll keep liberal laws that block mines, pipelines, and energy projects.
00:11:11.760 We do not plan to repeal Bill 69.
00:11:15.040 Keeping Canada hostage to the Americans.
00:11:17.440 It's to our advantage, actually.
00:11:19.720 Canada can't afford a fourth liberal term.
00:11:22.180 See, it's like the conservatives are actually watching my show.
00:11:25.460 Because this is another version of what I've been indicating that they should be running as an ad.
00:11:30.180 But show Carney speaking, or show a position of his, and then keep cutting back to Trump saying,
00:11:35.020 yeah, I'd like to negotiate with the liberals instead.
00:11:37.680 I'd rather work with these guys.
00:11:39.400 I want them to run the version where it's that Nunavut press conference where he keeps fumbling all over himself.
00:11:44.360 That's the one they should run.
00:11:45.500 Where he keeps fumbling all over himself.
00:11:47.280 Maybe say a couple of his positions.
00:11:49.320 And then cut to Trump saying, yeah, I'd rather negotiate with these guys.
00:11:51.840 Because they're obviously weak and pathetic.
00:11:53.660 And Trump thinks that he can easily out-negotiate a Mark Carney and whoever his international trade person is right now.
00:12:00.020 I think it's like Anita Anand.
00:12:01.580 I don't know.
00:12:02.500 There's for some, like you can never tell who's really in charge of anything in the liberal party.
00:12:06.480 Because it's such a hierarchical party that it's just whatever the leader says goes.
00:12:10.720 And the ministers might as well just be robots.
00:12:12.880 Anyways, I want to move on now quickly to Stephen Harper at the Polly of Rally.
00:12:17.980 Because this is another significant indicator.
00:12:21.100 Or not indicator.
00:12:22.000 It's a significant event in the campaign.
00:12:24.340 Because there are a lot of Canadians on the center-left who actually will shift over based on what Harper thinks.
00:12:31.680 Because so many people are citing, well, you know, Carney used to work for Harper, so I like him.
00:12:35.620 And by having Harper say, no, no, no, unequivocally, I like Polly of Better, is going to change the mind.
00:12:40.560 I'll bring up that clip in just a second here.
00:12:42.880 Here we go with that Harper clip.
00:12:46.700 Thank you for Rebel News for getting this up.
00:12:49.300 Because obviously I do not have a big team that can go clipping stuff like this for me.
00:12:53.420 But again, this is going to have a big impact.
00:12:55.680 It's not because, you know, 10% of voters are going to decide who they're going to vote for based on Stephen Harper.
00:13:01.600 Endorsements usually don't affect races that much.
00:13:04.700 But what this does is it pushes, you know, a good third, more like, you know, 0.5% of voters towards conservatives.
00:13:11.700 Because every election is about nickel and diming your way into a governmental position.
00:13:16.900 And I think that this is definitely a significant thing.
00:13:20.420 Because now Carney's people can't really bring up Harper as much because, well, now he's not on their team.
00:13:25.960 You know, friends, I am in a unique position in this federal election.
00:13:32.920 I am the only person who can say that both of the men running to be prime minister once worked for me.
00:13:45.560 And in that regard, my choice, without hesitation, without equivocation, without a shadow of a doubt, is Pierre Poilievre.
00:13:56.920 Yeah, so great news for Poiliev.
00:14:03.780 And I would say that what this is all indicative of, because I like to kind of jump between polls and real-life events,
00:14:10.500 because the polls reflect real life.
00:14:13.960 Not all polls are accurate.
00:14:15.300 I like whenever you say a poll is not accurate, you're like, are you a poll denier?
00:14:18.400 You have to be a poll denier to some extent.
00:14:20.980 All the polls don't agree with each other.
00:14:22.600 So you have to say, that poll looks like crap.
00:14:25.020 That one looks okay.
00:14:26.560 And in this case, I tend to like abacus data.
00:14:29.140 I think they do a good job.
00:14:30.720 And I've been saying that for literally months, that they've been doing a good job.
00:14:35.020 They actually, for a long time, had the liberals as the party with more voter enthusiasm.
00:14:41.300 But as of yesterday, they actually have the conservatives starting to take the lead.
00:14:46.380 Conservative voters, 69% of conservative voters, say they have their mind made up of who they're going to vote for.
00:14:51.900 Only 31% say they could change their minds.
00:14:54.960 Liberal voters, 62% had their minds made up.
00:14:57.240 38% could change their minds.
00:14:59.160 And man, it gets really bad for the NDP and the bloc, with only 54% and 33% who have their minds made up.
00:15:05.300 This is why the debate is really going to matter.
00:15:08.300 In fact, as weird as it sounds, do you know who the debate is biggest for?
00:15:12.960 Biggest for Jake Meissing and Yves-Francois Blanchet.
00:15:15.920 Poliev and Carney are all, actually more so Poliev, already has most of his voters firmed up, as you see there.
00:15:24.540 He has 68%.
00:15:25.440 Now he basically needs to cobble together another 20% and he can win.
00:15:29.220 What the debate's going to do is if Jagmeet Singh, as incompetent as the guy is, he can be charismatic sometimes.
00:15:36.100 If he can land a big haymaker on Carney, if he can land a shot on Carney, and if Carney flubs the French debate and Blanchet looks like the stronger person for center-left to left Quebec voters,
00:15:48.600 you could see a lot of that soft liberal support end up just going away.
00:15:53.660 I would actually say it's about 40%, 45% of liberal supporters who actually could move away if there's just a really bad performance for Carney.
00:16:02.480 Not all of them are going to move away, obviously, but 40% that each of those people have, you know, a 50-50, maybe even just a 20% chance of saying,
00:16:10.660 yeah, I guess I don't trust Carney if he just can't stand up on debate stage on his own two feet and battle back against these other leaders.
00:16:19.200 But anyways, so that should be it for me in this video, guys.
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