The National Telegraph - Wyatt Claypool - Carney's BIG $90 Billion Scandal - Finance Minister FAKE has MAJOR conflict of interest!

00:00:00.000 Hey guys, Wyatt Claypool here, and welcome back to the National Telegraph YouTube channel.

00:00:06.160 These days I've been learning to take comfort in liberal corruption. When you think about it,

00:00:12.080 every time you wake up in the morning and the liberals are still being corrupt,

00:00:16.000 it means that the fabric of reality is intact. If you woke up one day and the liberals weren't

00:00:21.520 being corrupt, you should be very worried because it would indicate that reality has a major gas

00:00:26.800 leak going on. But enough with the jokes, let's talk about the new liberal corruption scandal

00:00:33.180 involving the finance minister and the Alto train project. Right off the bat, this is a massive gift

00:00:40.840 to Pierre Polyev and the Conservatives. They were already opposing the Alto train project because of

00:00:47.060 the price tag. The price tag for a train going from Toronto to Quebec City with only five stops

00:00:53.220 along the way is $90 billion. Yes, the Liberal government will not get bad regulations out of

00:01:01.360 the way of a pipeline being built, but they will throw $90 billion at a train that's not actually

00:01:07.380 going to service that many people, that's going to cost an absurd amount of money, a larger amount

00:01:14.140 of money than this year's entire deficit. Now, that's not all being paid at once. Obviously,

00:01:19.260 gets paid over time but the fact anyone approved this is insane but now it's not the problem with

00:01:24.500 the train project is not just that it's a massive boondoggle that's going to cost too much it's that

00:01:29.560 the finance minister did not disclose he has a massive conflict of interest with the project

00:01:35.300 you see Francois-Philippe Champagne Canada's finance minister has a wife and that wife is the

00:01:43.040 vice president of environment at alto and now it's funny to me that it's the vice president

00:01:49.180 of environment because that sounds like a fake made-up job that they gave her just so that she

00:01:54.900 would have like a interest in the project and her husband would have an interest in giving it money

00:02:00.020 but we'll get to some of the details in just a second here before we get into more of the details

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00:02:44.380 Anyways, let's get into this. It is a wild ride. So one of the first people who was talking about

00:02:50.920 this issue was David at the channel Moose on the Loose. He is always really good at hunting down

00:02:56.140 leads on liberal corruption. And here on X, he says, Francois-Philippe Champagne recuses himself

00:03:02.600 from the Alto high speed train project. Wife, Anne-Marie Gaudet, is vice president of environment

00:03:09.600 at Alto. The finance minister was overseeing billions from the very company his partner helps

00:03:15.600 lead. Champagne forced into a total recusal from the Alto project after the story blew up.

00:03:21.860 This happens right as he returns from chasing investment in China. Now, Rick Perkins, who is a

00:03:27.300 former Conservative MP, I believe running again to try and recapture his riding in Nova Scotia,

00:03:32.960 then commented on this and says, he introduced the budget and spending estimates and voted for

00:03:37.600 them when the estimates allocated $597 million alone this year to Aalto directly, where his

00:03:43.660 partner is an executive. This is one of the biggest ethical breaches so far in 11 years of

00:03:49.440 liberals. And yeah, this is absolutely insane that this happened without anyone's knowledge until

00:03:56.160 now. And now he's trying to claim that he recused himself from the beginning, but that's not actually

00:04:03.060 true. In fact, as the conservatives have been pointing out, he actually, nobody knew he recused

00:04:09.420 himself back in September, and the ethics commissioner doesn't even know he did it

00:04:13.880 because he didn't do it. He's just retroactively pretending that he recused himself, even though

00:04:19.720 he then later introduced the budget with the $90 billion budget over a long period of time

00:04:26.600 for the train. It's just like insanity. So Conservative MP Michael Barrett here says,

00:04:33.840 the finance minister claims he recused himself, but the ethics commissioner seems to have no

00:04:38.600 record of it. We need to get to the bottom of this. And here this article says, finance minister

00:04:43.320 recuses himself from Ottawa's high-speed rail project. Subhead here says, finance minister

00:04:47.880 Francois-Philippe Champagne, has been unable to participate in decisions related to the federal

00:04:52.100 government's proposed high-speed rail line after setting up an ethics screen last year due to his

00:04:57.400 partner's ties to the Crown Corporation behind the project. So yeah, that's a bit of a problem.

00:05:03.220 It would already be a problem in terms of him not recusing himself because he still voted on

00:05:09.100 elements of the budget involving this. He still championed the budget involving this and didn't

00:05:13.420 publicly disclose it. And his claim that he recused himself back in September is not correct.

00:05:19.800 He didn't. They have no record of it. It should have been very obvious. He should have announced

00:05:23.140 it ahead of time. Because one could say a $90 billion project that this year alone is going

00:05:30.620 to have more than half a billion go towards it should be something that you're very vocal about

00:05:36.580 trying to distance yourself from. Now, here's the thing with conflicts of interest. A conflict of

00:05:42.160 interest shouldn't prevent you from being allowed to be in government. A conflict of interest is a

00:05:46.960 problem that you have to resolve. You can have business conflicts of interest, as many people

00:05:52.720 have in the past. Nigel Wright, the former chief of staff to Stephen Harper, had a big conflict of

00:05:57.560 interest when it came to aviation, especially for military purposes. I believe he used to be on a

00:06:04.160 board of a company that made jets and whatnot. But whenever that issue around jet, like the

00:06:10.500 procurement of jet aircraft and whatnot came up in the conservative government, he very publicly

00:06:15.020 said, I am not in the room about this stuff. I will not hear anything about it. I will be

00:06:19.600 basically 10 miles away from anything involving this. And this wasn't something like, all of a

00:06:25.080 sudden, the Harper government was looking to procure jets, and it just so happened to be

00:06:28.480 involving his company. I think it didn't even end up involving the company he used to be on the board

00:06:32.720 with. And the media, even at the time, because of course, it's the liberal media, were criticizing

00:06:38.780 him for being in the dark about all these decisions being made and he should step down

00:06:42.700 from this conflict of interest even though he did everything right to deal with it philippe champagne

00:06:48.300 has not and now we are going to be getting to mark carney trying to kind of kick out of this issue

00:06:54.940 because he really wants to have uh he really wants to basically just say that the issue is gone he

00:07:02.940 has recused himself and that's it but he doesn't actually want to repair the timeline and explain

00:07:08.780 how this isn't a massive problem considering that they have no record of him recusing himself

00:07:13.860 previously. It's only come up now that Polyev and the conservatives have put a bunch of attention on

00:07:18.460 it by opposing the project and people dug more into it and found out his wife was on the executive

00:07:24.080 team who very sneakily, and I'm not saying that this means something, but they knew that they

00:07:29.440 could kind of hide in plain sight because she doesn't share the same last name as him. But here

00:07:34.480 is him responding to a reporter in French about the issue and then I'm going to get to an English

00:07:38.180 one in a second here on a different subject how can you guarantee that there's no conflict of

00:07:46.820 interest between your minister of finance and alto when his wife is part of that organization

00:07:55.460 thank you for your question first of all i think it's important to begin

00:08:00.100 in by talking about one reality, the minister, Ms. Minister, whoever the minister is, ministers

00:08:11.280 have spouses, have partners, and they have careers as well. They're individuals in their

00:08:18.220 own right. So we need a system that allows people to carry on those professions.

00:08:29.940 And we do have a conflict of interest policy in place.

00:08:33.640 Mr. Champagne has always...

00:08:35.960 So I just want to basically make it very clear what we already know here.

00:08:40.500 He just said nothing there.

00:08:41.780 He basically said, well, we don't want to screen out people from being able to work for the government

00:08:45.280 just because they've had previous careers somewhere or because they have a spouse that works somewhere else.

00:08:50.380 Okay, fine.

00:08:51.340 The problem is how it has been handled.

00:08:53.960 He didn't actually come out publicly and mention that he has this conflict of interest.

00:08:58.540 it wasn't included in his conflict of interest screening previously the ethics commissioner has

00:09:02.720 no record of it but now let's get him to trying to justify that somehow champagne has been acting

00:09:08.420 above board in place mr champagne has always followed all the rules in relation to that

00:09:15.580 situation he did it in the past by dealing with the ethics commission so there are rules in place

00:09:23.700 he is following those rules and really it's quite simple when it comes to alto this is an exciting

00:09:31.580 project for ontario and for quebec and canada so guys ignore the fact that there's an obviously

00:09:38.640 a conflict of interest here that wasn't resolved like he says he's been following all the rules

00:09:42.940 ethics commissioner says otherwise they have no record of him actually disclosing this back in

00:09:47.420 september but it's an exciting project guys aren't you excited don't you not care about liberal

00:09:52.800 corruption for boondoggle projects when there's excitement in the air? This is another thing going

00:09:57.960 on right now with the highway that they want to build. I forget what the start point is, but

00:10:01.980 they're building a $900 million highway into Nunavut in order to service mines owned by China.

00:10:09.940 Except it's an exciting project, guys. Stop thinking about all the conflict of interest

00:10:14.520 and foreign interests that are involved in that project being pushed ahead, because it's extremely

00:10:19.560 exciting. At the same time, the liberal government won't take its foot off the neck of the oil and

00:10:25.640 gas industry to make the private sector incentivized to building a pipeline. They'll throw $90 billion

00:10:31.200 at a train that probably we don't actually need, especially for that price tag. You know, obviously,

00:10:36.380 if it costs $5 to make, if it costs maybe, let's say, $15 billion to make, maybe I would say yes.

00:10:41.280 Maybe that's a fine project. Maybe $20 billion, $30 billion. Maybe it'd be a fine project. There

00:10:45.760 is value in the long run by building it. But we can't even put any money towards a pipeline project

00:10:53.740 that is guaranteed to make money. In fact, the liberals are moving heaven and earth to not

00:10:58.360 deregulate in such a way that a private company would fund it itself. A private company would

00:11:03.220 fund that pipeline if there was a profit incentive to do so. And it's not because there's no profit

00:11:08.080 incentive in oil and gas. It's because the policies and taxes, the regulations and taxes,

00:11:12.200 cause the incentive to go away

00:11:15.240 because it makes it very difficult to make money

00:11:17.160 with that pipeline, whereas you can build pipelines

00:11:19.260 in Texas and elsewhere and actually make

00:11:21.260 far more. But now let's get back

00:11:23.380 to him talking about how excited he is.

00:11:25.460 A project

00:11:28.040 that will create

00:11:31.420 more than

00:11:34.000 50,000 jobs

00:11:35.960 and

00:11:38.140 35 billion

00:11:41.400 dollars of gdp english uh okay how do you get that out of that so we're going to spend 90 billion

00:11:47.480 dollars to create 50 000 fake jobs and gain 35 billion in our gdp are they saying like yearly

00:11:56.200 that would add 35 billion to our gdp that train line i don't think that's right i think he's

00:12:00.920 saying total it would make 35 billion maybe he's saying on net we would gain 35 billion in gdp from

00:12:07.240 from the project, I really don't see it.

00:12:10.220 This would be like just building bridges to nowhere

00:12:12.300 and saying that, well, technically it will generate

00:12:15.220 120 billion in economic input.

00:12:19.240 It's like, no doubt there's gonna be a lot of companies

00:12:22.180 lining up to build the project

00:12:23.480 because the government's just throwing money at them

00:12:25.220 to do it, but I don't think there's actually

00:12:27.600 a business case for this,

00:12:28.760 which is why the government is giving more money

00:12:31.680 than our deficit currently is.

00:12:34.120 The entire federal deficit is less

00:12:37.240 than this train project my goodness um the um well the first thing to say is that uh

00:12:44.280 here's the english answer here so he's gotten to refine his answer since he rambled in french

00:12:50.120 whatever minister um uh hopefully uh they will have a partner um and that partner will have a

00:12:57.880 job they'll have a career and it's important that we have a system that those individuals

00:13:02.200 can continue to pursue their career.

00:13:05.600 Sorry, I actually disagree, 100% disagree that Vice President of Environment at Alto

00:13:13.800 counts as some sort of passion or career that we want someone supposed to keep pursuing

00:13:19.500 when it involves government money.

00:13:22.200 That sounds like a fake job that we don't actually need.

00:13:26.380 You wonder why our country has such a big deficit and we have crown corporations

00:13:30.740 that get massive amounts of government money

00:13:32.800 who have environment vice presidents?

00:13:35.500 It's a train company.

00:13:36.860 You have an environment vice president?

00:13:39.180 That sounds like a fake job

00:13:40.940 in order to get a government,

00:13:43.060 like a minister's foot in the door with that company.

00:13:47.020 It sounds like the company wants to have a relationship

00:13:49.580 with the finance minister by having their wife 1.00

00:13:52.360 have a stupid fake made up job that is not needed. 1.00

00:13:56.120 Just my suspicion here, maybe I'm being conspiratorial. 1.00

00:13:59.460 And we do have a system.

00:14:00.280 uh their rules uh their regulations uh and uh the minister uh minister of finance has followed those

00:14:07.880 rules and regulations uh with uh in notification of the ethics uh commissioner in recusing himself

00:14:14.180 uh from uh dealings with respect to uh alto um and i'll just finish by observing the problem is

00:14:21.760 the timeline does the timeline make sense he can recuse himself now and he could say he's followed

00:14:26.860 his obligation to recuse himself but he already included the 90 billion dollar project in the

00:14:31.960 budget he already gave them a bunch of money in the budget he already voted for that the budget

00:14:36.760 and did not recuse himself from it that's the problem you can't just like retroactively post

00:14:43.000 hoc recuse yourself after you've already engaged in the conflict of interest and corruption like

00:14:49.840 my goodness uh that this is uh this is a good situation because we have a partner who can

00:14:56.260 pursue her career the minister of finance who can do his responsibilities we have lots of other

00:15:00.180 ministers who can take on their responsibilities and we have a project that's going to contribute

00:15:05.000 more than 35 billion to our economy and create more than 50 000 jobs good for ontario good for

00:15:10.520 quebec good for canada apparently it's guys it's a love story he has a partner isn't that great

00:15:17.000 that francois philippe champagne like the canadian version of matthew broderick from quebec isn't it

00:15:22.200 great that he has a wife and that she has a job i'm like i don't care how about they both how

00:15:28.080 about they how would they both go work at alto and he resigns his ministry that would be a that

00:15:33.400 would be a solution this or she could quit her job that's another solution to this the problem

00:15:39.080 here is that trust has been broken you can't repair it after the fact that you gave the money

00:15:44.140 but what do i know guys what do i know i don't understand about nation building projects or

00:15:49.980 whatever uh so here is this is an absolute slam dunk issue for the conservatives it's so obvious

00:15:57.500 how great this is for peer poly because he already had a good point in opposing the project for the

00:16:02.280 cost issue and now he can oppose it for a corruption issue as well now we have here

00:16:07.260 peer poly of saying the liberal finance minister claims he accused himself in september 2025

00:16:12.760 of the 90 billion dollar alto project for which his wife is the vice president of environment he

00:16:18.880 should have included yet here he is promoting the project in senate testimony six months later

00:16:24.080 and here he is voting for it in the house of commons there it is in the budget he presented

00:16:28.980 and there is no recusal record of the ethics on the ethics commissioner's website nothing adds up

00:16:34.620 90 billion is at stake tell the truth minister and he includes this video that the conservative

00:16:39.800 party cut this morning

00:16:48.880 yeah uh that's bad because i was wondering like maybe he would have to recuse himself

00:16:58.720 from the entire budget because something is in there that he shouldn't be able to vote for and

00:17:03.040 so he has to kind of like back off a little bit he literally voted against removing it from the

00:17:08.560 budget to then be voted on separately because then he wouldn't be able to help sort of shepherd it

00:17:13.600 across the finish line in sort of this like pork barrel style budget where they include a bunch of

00:17:18.480 goodies within it i know that is how budgets work you have all your spending things in it

00:17:22.720 at like at once like this is a project that it's so big should probably have its own like alto train

00:17:29.880 act or something like that where everyone can actually see the pluses and minuses in it and

00:17:34.660 vote on it whereas the liberals when they include in the budget they get to hide behind like oh my

00:17:39.020 goodness the conservatives are voting against health care by voting against this budget that

00:17:43.520 by the way is like one of my biggest pet peeves every time like you oppose overspending as a

00:17:47.900 conservative and some liberal comes out and says oh so you want little billy to not get his health

00:17:52.480 care you want to push a grandmother down the stairs don't you it's like no this is like if

00:17:57.920 you ever watch those shows like dave ramsey or like caleb hammer he has all those like zoomers

00:18:03.760 who have massive debt problems onto his financial audit show on youtube funny show sometimes a bit 0.98

00:18:10.000 vulgar so you i'd like be careful of watching it i guess but like there's all these like zoomers 0.99

00:18:15.980 usually very woke individuals who just don't seem to have a concept for saving money. And they have 1.00

00:18:22.400 this very like relativistic kind of idea that, well, if it makes me happy, who cares if I'm in

00:18:26.900 debt? That's what the liberals are like dealing with. On that show, constantly, Caleb is asking

00:18:32.240 these kind of young people about like, well, you know, you need to be able to spend less. You had

00:18:36.540 to get your spending under control if you want to be able to cut down on your debt. And so often

00:18:40.420 the person's like, oh, so you're saying I shouldn't be able to have food? It's like, well, no, just

00:18:44.440 stop eating out every day. Stop going to Sephora every week. Stop buying stuff you don't need on

00:18:49.620 Amazon. That's what the liberals are like every time you talk about too much spending. They're 0.98

00:18:53.520 like, so you think that I shouldn't be able to eat? You think that Billy shouldn't have health

00:18:59.220 care? It's like, no, we just don't need DEI departments in our health care system. We don't

00:19:04.400 need this massive HR bureaucracy and administrators that don't do anything. So you think Billy

00:19:12.280 shouldn't get a surgery well i'm just going to go and tell billy right now we're going to call off

00:19:15.880 the surgery because we need to save a dollar i'm like yeah but not from there it'd be like if you

00:19:20.520 had a household budget problem and you know like you're the wife talking to her husband of like

00:19:26.120 how we need to cut down on too much spending he's like so you think that we shouldn't feed the

00:19:29.880 children you're like no stop buying luxury cars that's what i'm saying anyways i i've rambled

00:19:36.520 enough but we'll get to the rest of the video here

00:19:42.280 The Minister, Minister of Finance, has followed those rules and regulations with notification

00:19:53.080 of the Ethics Commissioner in recusing himself from dealings with respect to Alto.

00:19:59.680 Yeah, so this is going to be a massive payday for the Conservatives in terms of cashing

00:20:05.880 in a lot of political points here.

00:20:07.880 Again, already a good idea to oppose this boondoggle of a project.

00:20:12.280 even better when it involves liberal corruption. So this is going to do great things for the

00:20:17.340 Conservatives. But before I end this video, I actually want to talk a little bit about why

00:20:21.980 the Quebec by-election, the Terrebonne riding, matters so much. Because this was a post by

00:20:31.260 Shrey Attiste, who's a really good polling analyst in Canada. He's actually only 17 years old.

00:20:36.100 Here it is on screen. He made this post saying, there's a significant chance that the Bloc 0.92

00:20:41.120 Capacqua will take back Terrebonne, but I don't think it even matters at this point. Now, I really

00:20:46.720 respect Shreya Teest's takes. This is one where I actually disagreed with it, but I thought he was

00:20:50.740 just a good foil to base my own take off of here. I think it's actually really necessary that the

00:20:58.340 Liberals win Terrebonne. Now, obviously, I want them to lose, but from their perspective, they

00:21:02.200 really need to win it for the purpose I'm saying right here. In my post in response to Shreya Teest,

00:21:07.260 I said, the bloc winning Tarabon matters a lot for the appearance of Mark Carney. If he has a

00:21:12.940 bare majority that relies on the votes of Michael Ma or people with conflicts of interest on policy

00:21:17.480 like Minister Champagne, it will dog the liberals until the next election. Plays into Pierre

00:21:22.480 Polyev's corrupt majority line. And now this Alto train thing matters a lot because in, I think,

00:21:28.840 the end of April or like, I think it's actually April 18th or something like that, we are going

00:21:33.380 to have three by-elections, one in Scarborough Southwest, one in University Rosedale, and one

00:21:39.480 in Terrebonne. Now, the liberals are easily going to win Scarborough Southwest and University

00:21:44.260 Rosedale. These are liberal ridings through and through. The only time where University Rosedale

00:21:49.400 was ever won by somebody else was when the liberals almost collapsed in 2011, and the Jack

00:21:54.000 Layton NDP won it for a single term. Scarborough Southwest has never been won by anyone but a

00:21:59.560 liberal, I believe, in like three decades. Those are going liberal. The problem, though, is if they

00:22:04.780 take those two and not Terrebonne, and Terrebonne flips over to the Bloc Québécois, which seems

00:22:09.300 actually pretty, you know, it's like probably a 50-50 at this point, that means every vote that

00:22:14.240 the liberals pass with their bare majority relies on the votes of Michael Ma, people like Minister

00:22:20.440 Champagne, and any other liberal that has a scandal. Mark Carney wants a bit of a margin,

00:22:26.160 because then he can kind of have plausible deniability that he doesn't stop passing stuff

00:22:31.400 with CCP puppet Michael Ma or corrupt finance minister Philippe Champagne. He has a big enough

00:22:38.260 majority. Those votes don't matter. If he doesn't win Terrebonne, it matters a lot. And in fact,

00:22:43.840 if you didn't know, the Liberals are probably going to lose another seat soon because Nate

00:22:48.560 Erskine-Smith, wanting to run for the Ontario Liberal leadership, is going to be trying to

00:22:53.780 replace Dolly Begum, who was a former NDP MPP, who stepped down from her seat provincially to

00:23:00.560 then run for the Liberals federally to replace Bill Blair in Scarborough South. Now, right now,

00:23:06.440 Nate Erskine-Smith is fighting hard for the Ontario Provincial Liberal nomination for the

00:23:11.840 Scarborough Southwest seat. I assume he's going to take it. He's a very politically experienced

00:23:15.860 individual. He came second to Bonnie Crombie in the last Ontario Liberal leadership race.

00:23:21.720 there's some conflicts going on with him being really nasty to the other candidates running for

00:23:25.980 that nomination but that's another story for another day the problem though is not only will

00:23:29.980 the liberals temporarily lose that seat once erskine smith takes the riding but i'm not sure 0.90

00:23:36.740 if you know this but the ndp federally under avi lewis no matter how useless that guy is

00:23:43.120 he might be able to win that riding because although that's been a long time ndp riding it

00:23:48.220 has, sorry, liberal writing, it has sometimes been won by the NDP, like maybe like 15 years ago.

00:23:54.040 And before that, they may have had it 20 years ago. Every once in a while, there's an orange blip.

00:23:58.780 But Avi Lewis actually polls well in this area. It's been a while since this polling was done.

00:24:05.500 But Main Street research, so I'll show you the polling, because I think they have released the

00:24:10.900 results themselves at this point, so I'm not spoiling anything. Main Street right now shows

00:24:15.840 With all voters in Beaches, East York, which is Nate Erskine-Smith's writing, if he leaves, becomes an Ontario Liberal politician provincially and wins, he would then vacate his Beaches, East York seat.

00:24:29.140 And Avi Lewis, if he runs there, actually has a slight advantage over the Liberals.

00:24:33.880 This is all voters, including undecideds.

00:24:36.220 But if you just ratchet it down to decided voters, he actually wins right now 43% to the Liberals' 39%.

00:24:43.840 percent that's pretty bad for the liberals losing one of the progressive progressive seats of the

00:24:50.440 gta to the ndp and potentially starting a cascade effect where more progressive voters are going to

00:24:56.720 flock over to the avi lewis ndp because they feel like they have momentum beaches east york is a

00:25:01.800 progressive progressive riding like there are what i would call like liberal progressive ridings like

00:25:06.860 university rosedale is liberal progressive a lot of business professionals people who describe

00:25:11.960 themselves as progressive, but not like

00:25:13.840 an activist riding. Beach's East York

00:25:16.120 is activist progressive.

00:25:18.200 And so that is what makes it a very

00:25:19.920 tantalizing option for Avi Lewis

00:25:21.920 to run it, even if he doesn't win.

00:25:23.680 If he even comes close, it's going to be bad.

00:25:26.320 But if Avi Lewis wins,

00:25:28.500 if Mark Carney doesn't

00:25:29.920 win Terrebonne, he's back out of a majority

00:25:32.120 again. He can't

00:25:34.000 make this stuff up. It's absolutely hilarious.

00:25:36.680 Anyways, with that all

00:25:37.920 being said, thank you guys for watching the show.

00:25:40.060 Make sure to do the normal things

00:25:41.720 like share subscribe consider hitting the join button and becoming a channel member

00:25:46.120 And I will see you guys all later.

The National Telegraph - Wyatt Claypool - April 07, 2026

Carney's BIG $90 Billion Scandal - Finance Minister FAKE has MAJOR conflict of interest!

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