The National Telegraph - Wyatt Claypool - June 02, 2025


Carney's BIG LIE on Immigration! Worse than Justin Trudeau


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Wyatt Claypool goes over immigration under the Trudeau and Carney governments and why he thinks it needs to be drastically cut down. He also gives his thoughts on what a Conservative government should do in order to get things back on track.

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00:00:00.000 Hey guys, Wyatt Claypool here. Out of all the various areas of public policy, I would say I most vehemently disagree with the Liberal government on the issue of immigration.
00:00:13.480 Both under Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and now Prime Minister Mark Carney, the Liberal government has been using immigration as effectively just a tool to increase the GDP.
00:00:25.240 Yes, it is that shallow. I know people out there will say that the Liberals are trying to use mass immigration to win elections by importing people into the country who will vote for them, but in practice, even if they were trying to do that, it's not actually how it works, as actually minority groups have been voting conservative more and more as elections have gone by.
00:00:46.660 Really, it is as shallow as they just want the GDP number to go up. They suck on the economy, and a very easy way of making the economy seem more productive is just importing people, just bringing people into the country, whether it be as permanent residents or temporary foreign workers or even students, 1.00
00:01:04.140 because even if someone just shows up to the country with $5 in their pocket, if you turn them upside down and shake it out, the economy has now gained $5 of GDP.
00:01:14.940 At the same time, GDP per capita has been falling into the pavement. We used to have really good GDP per capita compared to the United States, either a little bit behind them, or in the Harper years for a little bit, we were doing better than the United States.
00:01:30.540 But these days, we're having seven, eight, nine quarters straight of GDP per capita decline, because it doesn't matter if you add people to the country and it pumps up the GDP,
00:01:41.700 if those people are not actually adding more net productivity, if they're not actually adding more in than they're taking away, then people's standards of living will go down.
00:01:52.840 And now in this video today, guys, I want to go over what the Mark Carney liberals are currently doing on immigration, because Trudeau's liberals last year and now Mark Carney's liberals this year have been promising us that they're going to cool down immigration.
00:02:08.040 Before I get into the numbers here, it's going to get really ridiculous pretty fast. I just want to remind you guys, if you like the channel and my coverage, make sure to like this video, subscribe to the channel if you are not yet a subscriber, and leave a comment on this video on what you think about the topic of immigration.
00:02:24.060 Just quickly give you my perspective. I wish the conservatives did this. I think our immigration policy and I want any government any party to run on this. I want our permanent resident cap put at 100,000 people and I want our temporary foreign worker and student programs slashed 75%. Basically, the entire immigration system slashed 75%, which is what 100,000 permanent residents is also because right now, it doesn't matter if we lower it to more reasonable levels.
00:02:54.060 For what would be considered reasonable 10 years ago, it's been too much for so long, you need to now bend this, you know, piece of rubber back the other way, in order to get it straight in the long run. Sometimes to straighten something out, you have to bend it, you have to overcorrect one way to make sure that the economy, the housing market, you know, just the culture can actually settle in properly.
00:03:15.180 Anyways, so here is the current immigration Canada website. This is the official government website. You guys can go check it out yourself. There are links in the description below for this.
00:03:26.740 This is what the targets for 2025 are. And now right off the bat, these are still too high. So we have our current immigration rate for permanent residents now down to 395,000 people a year. It used to be nearly 500,000 people in 2023 and 2024.
00:03:47.740 New students have been dropped down 10% to 305,900 and temporary foreign workers are 367,750 down 16%.
00:03:58.740 Now, I don't even think this is good enough. This is still way too much by a factor of four, or like a multiple of four. Again, I'd like permanent residents to be down to 100,000, maybe just students down to 100,000, temporary foreign workers down to like 150,000, 100,000, depends on the sector.
00:04:21.640 If it's farms, and they need some temporary foreign workers to help, you know, pick fruit and crops, whatnot. Fair enough, I could see that being a little bit more difficult to get Canadians to do.
00:04:31.700 At the same time, I was living in Abbotsford during the BC provincial election, and you would talk to farmers, both people who are like Mennonite farmers, as well as, you know, Indo-Canadian farmers, and they'd be like, they used to go to the high schools and ask high school boys who are about to graduate from high school.
00:04:50.360 Hey, do you want to help us pick blueberries or raspberries? It's going to be the worst job you've ever had in your life. And you're going to hate me, but you're going to get paid a lot for it. And they would have no problem doing that. And the schools don't do that anymore. They don't help them recruit, like young guys to help with the harvest every year.
00:05:05.180 So now the TFW program is what they use. And I wish we'd go back to a culture where we wouldn't be trying to encourage young people to get internships where they don't learn anything and they sit around an office just, you know, getting people coffee and bring them like real jobs that are tough and give them a good perspective on life.
00:05:21.240 At the same time, they're productive and get more money in their pockets. But this is all already bad. This is all already too much. And now I need to cut over to something else.
00:05:31.500 And ahead of time, I'm going to say this is brilliant reporting from Juno News. I, by the way, do not work for Juno News. I appear on Candace Malcolm's show from time to time.
00:05:40.540 But this isn't like some plug I'm doing because I'm, I'm with them or anything. They just genuinely did really good reporting on this. So from Juno News, Canada took in 817,000 new immigrants in the first four months of 2025.
00:05:55.900 Now, I'm going to go back to the other page here. I don't need to bring it up on screen for you guys. But I'm just going to take out my handy dandy calculator here on my phone. And we're going to figure out how close we are to the current cap that the government was proposing for the year 2025.
00:06:14.300 So we have 395,000. And we add 305,900. And then we add 367,750. And what do we have? Okay, so guys, this is supposed to be the cap for the year. 1,068,650 new immigrants between new students, new temporary foreign workers, and new permanent residents.
00:06:42.320 And we are currently at 317,000 people who have already entered the country in the year 2025. In the first four months, in the first, you know, third of the year, we are already at what is that? What is that? We are already at 817. And then
00:07:03.640 we're already at 76% of the cap. Now, maybe they're going to start really restricting it in the rest of the year. I highly doubt it. It looks like that was a big fat lie from the liberals, and they're going to burst through this.
00:07:24.580 So I'm just going to read a little bit of this article, and then I'm going to, I will be linking the Juno News article in the description below. I want to read all of it, because you guys should check out the details for yourself. They did very good reporting. This is great stuff from Cosman, who actually kind of, I personally know Cosman. I used to work with him at the post-millennial way back in the day.
00:07:42.860 And he says,
00:08:12.860 This number is the key one, 491,400 work permits, which includes extensions, because it's not a real cap if the people already here on temporary work can keep expanding and keep extending their stays forever. It really is just another version of a permanent resident.
00:08:32.260 So let's bring that, the old, the immigration website back up, because this is very key here. You see this? New temporary workers is 367,750. Now, I don't want to be pedantic here, but I kind of consider it another new person when somebody was already supposed to leave, and now we're extending their stay.
00:08:55.700 Because the definition of a new temporary worker is that it's temporary. And if it's constantly being extended well past the point that they're supposed to, well, then I would say that that should be counted as a new person.
00:09:09.240 So I'm going to go back to the Juno article. So 491,400 work permits and extensions have been given, and the cap was 367,000 for new ones.
00:09:21.400 Yes, maybe they said, oh, the extensions were always a part of the definition, but I don't think the regular Canadian, or even I knew that. I didn't know that. And that's kind of worrisome that we've lowered the cap, but maybe they just start giving out extensions to, like, you know, like their candy. Anyone can get an extension.
00:09:41.520 So while the amount of brand new people are lower, the amount of renewals is going to shoot through the roof.
00:09:49.960 This is something, like I've said in other videos, we need to keep an eye on as Canadians. We need to keep an eye on the spending that Mark Carney does, on the immigration levels.
00:10:00.700 We need to keep an eye on lobby groups, who's getting government contracts under Mark Carney, any Brookfield asset management affiliates getting anything.
00:10:08.960 This is all stuff where most people aren't even going to notice it, but it needs to be brought to people's attention.
00:10:15.600 And this is actually where I need to transition to another topic on something. Well, first of all, actually, we'll start with this Mark Carney video.
00:10:23.700 Honestly, guys, you know how little I plan these videos? I'm not trying to, this just happens to come together.
00:10:30.140 I was just going to include these clips in case I didn't have anything to talk about, and that topic was a bit thin, but this is actually a perfect transition, guys.
00:10:37.960 I am accidentally good at this. But Mark Carney here, this is a clip that the Liberal Party posted of him in Parliament, and it's kind of fluffy nonsense, but I'm going to get to why Mark Carney is far more savvy than Justin Trudeau.
00:10:53.320 He is as bad for the country as Justin Trudeau, if not worse, but politically, he's far better at this than Trudeau is, even though I think he's so boring and the Conservative Party should have been able to beat him.
00:11:04.880 At the same time, at the very least, he knows how to make the kind of retired voters who voted Liberal in mass numbers feel comfortable.
00:11:15.400 I know if you're a retired voter, if you're in those older age demographics, you don't like him if you're watching this channel, but it is just true that a lot of people in the 55-plus demographic voted for him.
00:11:25.820 And his calm demeanor and general optimism that wasn't embarrassing the way Trudeau did it is going to keep people on side.
00:11:33.860 Throughout our history, there have been turning points when the world's fortunes were in the balance.
00:11:39.520 That was the case at the start of the Second World War, just as it was at the end of the Cold War.
00:11:46.100 And each time, Canada chose to step up, to assert ourselves as a free, sovereign and ambitious nation, to lead on the path of democracy and freedom, and to do so with compassion and generosity.
00:12:04.280 Mr. Speaker, we are once again at such a hinge moment.
00:12:10.040 Now is the time to address the challenges and seize the associated opportunities with urgency and determination.
00:12:16.640 Now, if you're going to say to me, Wyatt, why did you play that?
00:12:20.860 That was nothing.
00:12:21.800 I know it was nothing.
00:12:23.080 That's the point.
00:12:24.480 Carney is good at one thing.
00:12:25.900 He's good at saying optimistic-sounding nonsense that make a lot of people say, well, we must be doing something right.
00:12:32.160 This sounds, you know, he sounds pretty confident.
00:12:34.500 And most people vote on vibes.
00:12:35.980 And most people decide if they like the current government based on vibes.
00:12:39.540 Until the problems get so bad, it's unignorable.
00:12:41.880 And so far, he's done a couple of things that reduce the pain a little bit so that it extends out the liberal government's tenure for a couple of years.
00:12:50.820 And also, the whole Trump situation helped extend, basically dull the pain of living in Canada for just a bit so that people don't revolt against him right away.
00:13:00.720 But that led to this posting between Brian Breguet, who I know, actually, he was in the last episode.
00:13:07.940 Brian's a very popular guy.
00:13:09.200 I keep wanting to use him as an example.
00:13:11.200 He was just agreeing with something that Scott Hayward from the Pro-Life group right now said.
00:13:16.540 Scott's also a great friend of the channel, great guy.
00:13:19.680 Alyssa Globe as well from right now.
00:13:23.060 But a lot of people disagreed with Brian agreeing with Scott.
00:13:26.980 I know this is kind of a very tenuous reason to bring up Brian.
00:13:30.720 I just remember there's so many comments of people saying, how could you agree with what Scott was saying?
00:13:34.780 How could you, how could you, Brian?
00:13:36.920 Scott's right here.
00:13:37.800 And I want to read his post and then kind of explain what's going on here.
00:13:42.360 Scott says, when he was responding to someone else,
00:13:44.680 look at the margin of loss for the Liberals in the 27 ex-urban ridings of Ontario,
00:13:51.120 places like Niagara West, Leeds, Renfrew, Flamborough, etc.
00:13:55.240 These are ridings that United CPC has won by 20 to 30 percent since 2004 that they barely scraped by and goes both ways.
00:14:03.820 Because he's responding to someone basically saying that the Conservatives did actually very well and, you know, people have to not be dough.
00:14:10.040 So down on them.
00:14:11.140 And Scott says, the problem for the Conservatives is that they are assuming that the Carney government will be incompetent like the Trudeau government.
00:14:18.420 And I think they will prove to be extremely incorrect.
00:14:21.880 And let's be very clear here.
00:14:23.220 Scott Hayward is a very conservative person.
00:14:27.400 He helps run a pro-life group, which is cool by me.
00:14:30.440 I'm a very pro-life person.
00:14:32.140 And Brian Berguet is someone who is not a social conservative.
00:14:35.560 If anything, he's probably more of like just a social moderate.
00:14:38.160 But he is a fiscal conservative and he's agreeing with them.
00:14:41.080 Do these two men actually think Mark Carney is going to be competent and good?
00:14:45.480 I don't think so.
00:14:47.440 But what they're saying is what the Conservative Party needs to do is not become naive and think that they are simply just going to have to wait until Mark Carney makes a super obvious screw up.
00:14:57.380 And then they point at him and say, see, this is why you need to elect us.
00:15:01.060 This is why in a previous video, I disagreed vehemently with the Conservative Party trying to take this tact where let's position ourselves as the government in waiting.
00:15:11.460 Let's kind of take on this sort of government in waiting attitude.
00:15:14.220 You can't do that.
00:15:16.140 You got to get smarter.
00:15:17.260 You actually need to sort of point out the fundamental vision flaws of the Liberal government.
00:15:22.420 You can't wait for them to screw up something super bad because what Carney is going to do is he's going to lend a veneer of credibility to extremely stupid policies.
00:15:32.400 Policies that take a while to explain to people why they're dumb, like this immigration thing, like the spending.
00:15:38.420 Most people don't really vote based on how big the deficit was because even I and you don't really know the difference to the health of the economy that a $42 billion deficit creates compared to a $62 billion deficit like we ended up with in Canada.
00:15:53.780 Actually, I think we were supposed to only end up with $40 billion and they blew past it.
00:15:57.400 But even I have a really hard time quantifying or explaining why it's so egregious that the deficit ended up being another $22 billion more than it should have been.
00:16:08.340 Really, it should not just be zero.
00:16:09.980 We should have a surplus.
00:16:11.200 But that's another point.
00:16:12.120 This is the difficulty in arguing against a Mark Carney government.
00:16:15.720 So simply sitting by and waiting for them to give you the government is a very dumb move.
00:16:21.420 I was writing an article about this, but then Trudeau dropped out as leader and a bunch of stuff changed and then I just didn't end up putting it out by election time.
00:16:29.860 But I may have to rewrite this article.
00:16:31.500 And the title was, The Conservative Party Needs to Learn How to Win Elections, Not Simply Wait for the Liberals to Lose Them.
00:16:39.580 Because I think in 2015, 2019, 2021, and now 2025, there were four opportunities for conservatives to win winnable elections, some more difficult than others, and they simply effectively just chose not to win because, well, you know, we don't want to touch that issue or we don't want to do this.
00:16:58.940 We just want to say that they're not spending efficiently.
00:17:01.320 We just want to say that the tax cuts the Liberals are proposing are not big enough, so we're going to propose a slightly bigger tax cut.
00:17:07.280 But you've got to come in with an audaciously different vision.
00:17:11.460 That's why, as a pro-life person, I even suggest the Conservative Party should run pro-life.
00:17:16.060 And I even see members of the audience in the comments who will start to get tight about that.
00:17:20.140 They will start to say, you can't run pro-life, you're going to lose.
00:17:22.660 When was the last time the Conservative Party ran pro-life and lost?
00:17:26.300 They've never done it.
00:17:27.900 Could they lose doing it?
00:17:29.100 Sure.
00:17:29.840 Same time, they've never tried it.
00:17:31.100 Have they ever tried just saying, we're going to try and reduce the tax burden in this country by 20%?
00:17:36.280 Across the board, we don't know how it's going to shake out in the brackets yet, but we're going to try and make sure that Canadians are paying 20% less taxes by the end of our first four-year term.
00:17:45.620 That's a big issue you could tackle.
00:17:47.420 Immigration, let's cut it down 75%. 1.00
00:17:49.280 That's a big vision issue.
00:17:51.480 And I think at 2025, Paulio is a good leader.
00:17:54.280 He presents himself well, but I think that his team, his advisors, people like Jenny Byrne, cut away all the personality and the audaciousness of Paulio going into that election.
00:18:04.800 And Paulio came out as his confident self, but without a big vision to run on and present to people.
00:18:09.960 If anything, the party became very safe towards the end.
00:18:13.120 And I'm not saying this as a criticism like, oh my goodness, the party's finished.
00:18:17.180 No, the party just needs to be on the right track to win.
00:18:20.380 Again, I'm never trying to shoot people in the back and frag my own people here.
00:18:25.980 I am always saying this out of a sense of trying to restore and protect people.
00:18:30.580 I'm saying that you actually need to go harder if you're going to avoid defeat.
00:18:34.960 There are so many people in politics, and this is becoming the end of video rant now, obviously.
00:18:41.200 There are so many people in politics who fancy themselves great advisors, great campaign managers, and all they really do all day is they manage risk.
00:18:48.520 They're not campaign managers, they are risk managers who simply think they are wise because they tell you what not to do.
00:18:54.780 I, who am not amazing at politics, I'm not bad at it either, at least know that if you're going to win an election, you have to win on some issues.
00:19:03.460 You can't just simply wait there and hope the other guy screws up and lets you have the crown.
00:19:07.300 You have to seize that thing with all your might.
00:19:10.260 Debates, in a lot of ways, it's good to sometimes get contentious, sometimes get a little fighty.
00:19:14.780 This is a weird story transition, guys.
00:19:18.240 You know what really worked?
00:19:20.740 And it's going to sound weird because it's famously considered a bad debate performance.
00:19:25.060 Do you know what really worked about Donald Trump's debate performance against Kamala Harris?
00:19:30.220 You remembered it.
00:19:31.900 Who remembers a single thing?
00:19:33.640 And I guarantee all of you watched it.
00:19:35.800 Who remembers a single thing Kamala Harris said in her one debate with Donald Trump?
00:19:39.900 And from a debating society standpoint, who won that debate?
00:19:43.500 Probably Kamala.
00:19:44.680 But debating society is not how real debates in the real world, where at the end of the day, people are going to vote on who they want to be president, happen.
00:19:53.180 Do you know what really worked for Trump in that debate?
00:19:55.280 Not only was he memorable, even though he said silly things about eating cats and dogs, but he seemed like he was in command.
00:20:02.480 Saying silly things, yes.
00:20:03.540 At the same time, with the moderators attacking him and with Kamala Harris attacking him, guess what it looks like?
00:20:09.000 It looks like he's back in the press gallery and he's talking to a bunch of annoying journalists.
00:20:14.820 He looks like he's president again.
00:20:16.800 Kamala Harris doesn't.
00:20:18.200 Kamala Harris looks like some lady in the back room saying, well, did you ever consider this?
00:20:22.920 Well, maybe, Mr. President, have you ever?
00:20:25.020 She just seems like some random naggy journalist in the crowd. 1.00
00:20:28.060 Again, Trump can make a thousand mistakes.
00:20:31.700 But the thing is that Trump also generally makes the correct macro movements towards the victory that he wants.
00:20:38.040 And I think Trump makes tons of mistakes that he shouldn't make.
00:20:40.680 That's not an endorsement of everything he does in politics.
00:20:43.280 I disagree with the tariffs.
00:20:44.640 I disagree with a lot of the moves that he makes.
00:20:46.960 I like a lot of the other things he does as well.
00:20:49.020 But from a pure perspective of just trying to get elected, there's a reason why people like Rob Ford win elections.
00:20:54.520 And then people who do everything right by their advisors end up getting absolutely trashed.
00:21:00.000 Because it turns out those advisors are in bubbles and they talk to other people who are exactly like them.
00:21:05.200 And they get very nervous around certain topics.
00:21:07.280 So you better not talk about immigration because all my fancy friends don't talk about immigration.
00:21:11.720 All my fancy friends are not just pro-choice, super pro-abortion.
00:21:15.940 So you can't be pro-life.
00:21:17.440 Why not?
00:21:18.180 The liberals are so overextended on the pro-life issue.
00:21:21.120 It's insane.
00:21:22.060 They are literally voting against bills to raise sentences for criminals who murder pregnant women or assault them.
00:21:31.000 What?
00:21:31.840 They voted against that.
00:21:33.020 If you sprung that in a debate saying your party voted to not protect pregnant women from murderers, that would seem insane to people.
00:21:42.420 And you would have so many people then join your party.
00:21:46.880 By the way, again, 25% of Canadians are hardcore pro-life.
00:21:51.260 About 80% of Canadians are somewhere in the pro-life band of things.
00:21:56.200 Are 80% of people also technically somewhat pro-choice or 75%?
00:22:00.220 Yes, there are people along the spectrum.
00:22:02.720 But there are so many easy victories on that.
00:22:05.500 That's not saying a party must run pro-life.
00:22:08.040 But it's an issue that you can win on.
00:22:10.320 Immigration is an issue you can win on.
00:22:12.420 Mass tax cuts and spending cuts are an issue you can win on.
00:22:15.640 And if conservatives want to beat Carney, they can't just sit back and hope that Carney is going to cause another SNC-Lavalin scandal.
00:22:23.220 I think Carney's a hair or two smarter than Justin Trudeau, at least to keep himself out of trouble in very egregious ways like that.
00:22:30.460 You're going to have a lot of policy failures, but they're going to be slow-moving policy failures.
00:22:34.260 If conservatives want to win, they've got to go out there and market why they on a lot of issues are completely different and it would make your life better, not simply that the liberals are doing a bad job, so why not just turn it over to us?
00:22:46.080 You've got to show that you are the opposite of them, not just better.
00:22:50.640 Anyways, well, that was a bit of a rant.
00:22:56.060 Anyway, so I try and provide advice and I even have people in the conservative party sometimes complain at me for doing stuff like this.
00:23:02.380 I got a call from someone's assistant the other day to complain about something I had said and I'm like, but it was true. 1.00
00:23:07.580 And they're like, well, you know, so what's your problem here?
00:23:11.100 What's your problem?
00:23:11.780 I speak on the internet and you sometimes don't like the words I say in the order I do.
00:23:16.640 But that's neither here nor there at this point.
00:23:18.880 Anyways, so hey guys, if you like the show, reminder, like the video, leave a comment on whatever you think.
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00:23:36.420 Whatever.
00:23:37.480 You decide.
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