The National Telegraph - Wyatt Claypool - March 27, 2026


Carney's Nightmare: Liberal MP exposes himself as Chinese agent!


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00:00:00.000 Hey guys, Wyatt Claypool here, and welcome back to the National Telegraph YouTube channel.
00:00:06.220 Well, this whole liberal floor-crossing thing isn't going very well for Prime Minister Mark Carney
00:00:11.380 today, as one of the MPs who crossed the floor and joined the Liberals has just exposed himself
00:00:18.020 as basically a CCP operative. That, of course, is the MP Michael Ma, who crossed over from the
00:00:25.360 conservatives to the liberals last December. Now, I will not let the Polyev conservatives off the
00:00:31.540 hook for this one because they did approve this guy to run for their party and they got him into
00:00:36.900 parliament. Mark Carney is just stupid enough to let him cross the floor and blow up in his face.
00:00:42.840 It's like the conservatives pulled the pin on a grenade and then rolled it into parliament
00:00:48.400 and then Mark Carney picked it up and blew up Wile E. Coyote style.
00:00:53.700 There is a lot of details to this specific case.
00:00:57.440 Basically, in a committee meeting, he just started pushing CCP propaganda in front of everyone,
00:01:03.080 and it's immediately become a scandal, but we will be getting into it in just a second.
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00:01:55.940 these days and that's why I have the membership program now. Anyways so let's get into the story
00:02:01.660 we will first start off with the raw video from the committee meeting where he questions somebody
00:02:07.440 about the Uyghur work camps, basically denying they even exist. Here is Michael Ma.
00:02:14.760 Due to the time limit, I'm going to be asking for very sharp, precise answers for the following
00:02:21.240 questions for Ms. Craig Johnson. Do you have an advanced degree in technology and cybersecurity?
00:02:28.300 Yes or no? No, but I have spent 37 years in that business.
00:02:35.760 the other one is you belong he isn't she was in fact trying to save michael ma there
00:02:41.460 inadvertently because she was going to give a longer answer and maybe have his time run out
00:02:45.780 not not that she's actually doing that but like my goodness michael ma does not want to get to
00:02:50.460 the next questions he has if he was thinking it through the china strategic risk the other one is
00:02:57.480 you belong to the china strategic risk institute so does this institute specifically look for risk
00:03:04.640 whether it's in one yes or no no so why is it a risk institute because it's it's uh analyzes
00:03:14.240 risks that are obviously thank you so uh the last question then is you claim about forced labor
00:03:21.120 incentive have you witnessed this yourself have you been there ever i've been to china many times
00:03:27.760 have you witnessed since 1979 have you witnessed force that's just a short answer have you witnessed
00:03:35.520 forced labor in senjin yes or no can you you can just feel how blown away this witness is the
00:03:45.100 margaret mcquagg johnson like someone's actually asking her this this would be like if you were in
00:03:52.340 the united kingdom and there was some parliamentary committee discussing the holocaust going on and
00:03:59.140 someone was coming in giving you the reports of what is happening around different camps in germany
00:04:05.020 poland russia ukraine and the person there saying have you seen these camps with your own eyes how
00:04:11.720 do you know they're exterminating people without having seen them yourself there are photos that
00:04:16.380 people have smuggled out of uyghur muslims being pushed into these camps and forced to work there
00:04:21.940 are just crazy reports of the kind of abuse and actual practices of genocide that end up going on
00:04:28.500 in that region of china trying to get rid of these people and he's here basically saying okay well
00:04:34.020 unless you have your own photos on your iphone i'm going to assume it didn't happen i'll go back a
00:04:38.660 little bit have you witnessed force that's just a short answer have you witnessed forced labor in
00:04:46.020 yes or no um human rights watch where researchers did witness it so thank you uh yeah uh so you might
00:04:59.860 think that that's a bit of a bad look from michael ma there it's a very bad look on mark carney and
00:05:07.840 the liberals right now and it is a bad look on who what whoever was in charge and not doing any
00:05:15.300 vetting of Michael Ma in the Conservative Party and letting him be their Markham Unionville
00:05:20.100 candidate. Like, if anything, if you're Pierre Polyev right now, you are so happy this man
00:05:26.920 crossed the floor. This is the guy that Mark Carney brought with him on his China trip in
00:05:33.300 January. This is the guy Mark Carney has been literally sitting basically two seats down from
00:05:40.200 in the house of commons every day because they want to peacock the fact that they have michael
00:05:46.560 ma now in their bench they always have chris donchermont or michael ma or matt generu or now
00:05:52.840 laurie idlout really close in there to kind of like you know do a bit of a nanan and boo boo
00:05:57.660 thing or whatever against the party that those people came from what and now now this guy's
00:06:04.580 apparently like they should just rename him michael mao this is just insane levels of
00:06:09.560 unethical behavior for an MP. He's clearly in there basically to try and justify the liberals
00:06:16.600 growing closer to China. And this did not end very well for him. I'm going to take you through
00:06:23.320 a few videos. First, we are going to go through the CBC's coverage of this. Obviously, even the
00:06:29.240 CBC, who could screw up buttering toast, couldn't screw up this story because of how bad it was.
00:06:34.380 So I need to show you what their coverage looks like to just demonstrate how obviously bad of a story this is for the Carney liberals right now.
00:06:42.520 Again, this is so bad that the conservatives let this guy run as a candidate for them.
00:06:47.680 And there was a lot of information out there to already say he's effectively tied in with the CCP or the United Front Workers Department, which is an overseas influence operation by the Chinese government.
00:06:58.100 There was already enough to say that it was true about him.
00:07:00.920 But the liberals already knew this was true about him because they tried to call this out about Michael Ma during the last election because the conservatives were calling out unethical things that Paul Chang, their former MP and candidate, was doing.
00:07:14.800 The liberals and Carney ended up getting rid of Paul Chang, and then they pointed the finger to some of their people online that Michael Ma is basically just as bad as Paul Chang, and the conservatives kept him.
00:07:24.000 But now the liberals, having known that they knew that Michael Ma was dirty, were willing to bring Michael Ma in.
00:07:30.120 You can't make this stuff up.
00:07:31.480 It's the clown world that is Canadian politics right now.
00:07:34.980 Liberal Party's newest MPs is facing backlash over an exchange he had today at committee.
00:07:39.980 Michael Ma was questioning a witness who is against Canada accepting Chinese electric vehicles.
00:07:45.180 That witness raised human rights violations against Uyghurs in China.
00:07:49.160 And here's how Ma responded.
00:07:51.420 You claim about forced labor in San Jose.
00:07:53.920 Have you witnessed this yourself?
00:07:55.860 Have you been there ever?
00:07:56.860 i've been to china many times have you witnessed since 1979 have you witnessed force that's just
00:08:05.740 a short answer have you witnessed forced labor in shenzhen let me all of honestly like this is
00:08:12.040 something else that needs to be brought up you can obviously tell michael mott even knows he's
00:08:16.400 doing something fairly nasty right now just his own face gives away the fact that he knows that
00:08:21.300 what he's doing is extremely I guess unethical it's weaselly what he is doing have you witnessed
00:08:30.260 it yourself it's you know I mean it's like the body language of him not allowing her to speak
00:08:35.160 trying to get these yes or no answers and he has this just grin across his face while he's asking
00:08:40.380 these things he's trying to basically project ridiculousness onto the witness oh you haven't
00:08:46.120 even been there and you're telling me that this is a risk and that we shouldn't be trading electric
00:08:50.680 vehicles with them it's such bad behavior he is basically trying to bulldoze a witness
00:08:56.600 into whitewashing the chinese government yes or no um so did you get that from human rights watch
00:09:07.400 where researchers did witness it so thank you moments later a conservative mp took the floor
00:09:14.120 and she raised an issue with ma's questioning um miss mcquade johnson i want to apologize for the
00:09:21.480 member on the other side of the table point of order very good okay colleagues just just one
00:09:27.560 moment i obviously in public being accused and i like an apology from the member from the other
00:09:33.960 side oh my goodness he asked for an apology oh he should have just left the room after he did that
00:09:40.680 And the liberals trying to shut down the conservative MP from apologizing on his behalf is such a bad look because they're trying to save the moment by getting her to not say anything when they should have probably just let her go.
00:09:54.540 Act like, yeah, no, no, yeah, no, she's right.
00:09:57.040 You need to apologize for that.
00:09:58.540 That was a bad line of questioning.
00:10:00.020 The liberals are so clunky as political actors.
00:10:04.260 They were just trying to, like, basically, like, muffle her and, like, tell her to shut up.
00:10:07.940 Like, no, don't do not apologize on Michael Ma's behalf.
00:10:10.040 We do not want any more attention being drawn to this, even though by doing that, they brought even more attention to Michael Ma, who then stands up and demands an apology from her.
00:10:21.600 Okay, Mr. Ma, that would not be a point of order, and I don't...
00:10:25.620 Well, give me any evidence that there's any violation that requires an apology for me on my behalf.
00:10:31.460 ma's office sent a statement to defend his action saying michael used a quick burst of yes or no
00:10:38.920 questions to move away from the anti-china ev witness then to give the floor to the pro china
00:10:44.860 ev witness that was the strategy on paper show us that paper anywhere i dare the liberals to
00:10:53.640 actually publish anything that could they could provably say was actually there at the time
00:10:59.900 that was his strategy on paper, that he was going to act like a CCP United front operative,
00:11:06.180 and then he was going to flip back and be some sort of pro-Taiwanese, independent,
00:11:11.840 free Tibet, free the Uyghurs type of activist. No, you couldn't tell by the way he's behaving.
00:11:18.140 He is not being the devil's advocate. He never clarified when the conservative spoke up that
00:11:22.560 that's not what I was getting at. I'm sorry, you are claiming I'm saying things I'm not saying.
00:11:26.960 I will now clarify. That's not what he was saying. They're retroactively putting other
00:11:31.520 words into Michael Ma's mouth to try and save him from being because of how obviously greasy he is
00:11:37.980 being. The CBC's Olivia Stefanovich caught up with Michael Ma literally on Parliament Hill just a
00:11:43.640 short time ago. To challenge a witness on forced labor in China, do you believe there's forced
00:11:48.400 labor in china now michael michael whoopee this is your one moment to save the situation all you
00:11:57.560 have to do is turn around and say i'm sorry olivia that's not what i was actually doing
00:12:03.440 i was basically putting out the ccp zone talking points to her so that she could bat it down and
00:12:09.560 then the whole thing ended up you know i ran out of time i was hoping that she would do that but
00:12:13.500 he can't even claim that because he made her say yes or no. So there was no rebound time for him
00:12:18.640 to go to somebody else to demonstrate that these talking points are not real. He was just pushing
00:12:23.880 CCP talking points. That is it. And not even like talking points about, well, like Mark Carney uses
00:12:29.940 about China being a very close friend of Canada, and we have a very strong relationship. Not kind
00:12:34.940 like vague you know garbage like that it was like genuinely like ccp politburo no i didn't just
00:12:43.740 shoot that guy in the head you're just seeing it wrong kind of stuff oh my goodness but yeah
00:12:48.900 michael save yourself here to challenge a witness on forced labor in china do you believe there's
00:12:54.340 forced labor in china you do is that a yes sorry i'm late for a meeting yes but can you please
00:13:02.160 explain your comments. He's so late, he cannot speak words for some reason. I always love that
00:13:07.120 when President was like, I got to get somewhere like, well, we can walk and talk. I'm busy.
00:13:12.660 Industry committee. I have no comment at this thing. Conservatives are making it seem like you
00:13:18.500 don't care about forced labor in China or you don't believe in it. What do you think of that?
00:13:22.580 Well, they like to exaggerate always. And now here is your moment, Michael. How about you
00:13:29.320 prove the record wrong by saying something that is, you know, anti-enslaving people and trying
00:13:37.660 to genetically destroy them, which is literally what the Chinese government is doing. They will
00:13:41.860 specifically marry off Uyghur Muslim women to hand Chinese men to try and wipe out the people.
00:13:49.420 That is something they do. So, Michael, just make a common sense retort.
00:13:54.280 Was it really an exaggeration? Do you believe there is forced labor in China?
00:13:57.260 I believe there are forced laborers all over the world.
00:14:00.960 What about?
00:14:01.700 You're killing me, Michael.
00:14:03.040 You're killing me.
00:14:04.320 You just have to say one thing against the CCP, Michael.
00:14:07.580 China specifically.
00:14:08.900 Well, all over the world.
00:14:10.520 But China specifically.
00:14:13.000 Sorry, I need to run.
00:14:15.260 I need to run.
00:14:16.340 I have a meeting with Xi Jinping over in this other office building.
00:14:19.260 He's going to smack me around for being too obvious of an agent.
00:14:22.960 My, my goodness.
00:14:24.880 My goodness.
00:14:25.500 Michael Ma, what a character. Thank you, Jenny Byrne and the Conservative Party for not properly vetting this guy. Like, what are we doing? What are we doing? Guys, I was vetted out by the Conservative Party. They thought I shouldn't be a candidate allowed to run for the nomination in Calgary Signal Hill because, wait for it, I follow pro-life social media accounts because I'm pro-life, as are like more than half of the Conservative MPs.
00:14:54.900 they they cast me into the dark and shadowy place where they will be gnashing of teeth
00:15:00.080 and groaning because I am a neoconservative like a very generic 80s Reaganite type conservative
00:15:07.460 that was deemed like worth mentioning in a report to try and get me thrown out because they couldn't
00:15:13.140 actually find anything now I don't blame Polly of himself it's like these people around him like
00:15:18.080 Jenny Byrne who are trying to control nomination processes and throw in people she thinks are like
00:15:22.920 good. We just had a problem with this in the BC Conservative Party. Now, gladly, I do not work for
00:15:28.900 them. I work for Dallas Brody in the 1BC Party. They just had one of their MLAs, Han Chan, get
00:15:34.560 kicked out of their own caucus because of domestic assault charges. Assault charges that date back to
00:15:40.580 the incident happening in January 2024, something they could have found out if they knew about him.
00:15:46.220 Han Chan, by the way, is also a CCP actor because 1BC put up a bill one time to ban the BC government
00:15:52.740 and BC government contractors from getting assistance or basically contracting out work
00:15:59.260 to Chinese firms, you know, mainland China firms. And Han Chan voted against it. Stop letting these
00:16:06.700 people run for your parties. And my goodness, the liberals took this guy in knowing that he was
00:16:12.720 probably dirty because, you know, Papa Carney wanted his majority. Are they just going to sweep
00:16:18.800 this under the rug because i don't think you can this is actually going to cause contrary to what
00:16:24.380 people might think this is going to cause the liberals to lose massive amount amounts of
00:16:29.080 chinese voters because unsurprisingly the vast majority of chinese people moved here because
00:16:34.580 they do not like the ccp and they do not like to be represented by ccp agents while they are living
00:16:40.460 in canada so um let's move on to some other clips here i i thought northern perspective great shout
00:16:47.100 a shout out to them because they did a really good edit that they posted on social media just a bit
00:16:52.220 ago so they posted this little montage of the liberals uh changing view on china uh northern
00:17:00.460 perspective here uh thank you ryan and tanya for putting together this together they said liberals
00:17:05.900 protecting china at a parliamentary committee michael ma attacked a witness's credibility after
00:17:10.620 she simply said there was forced labor in china after conservatives challenged liberals to condemn
00:17:15.100 it all hell broke loose. So I believe right here they first play the clips of the evolving position
00:17:21.120 on China and then they get to the other clip. Over the weekend China said that it would impose
00:17:25.340 counter. So this is March 12th 2025 before the last federal election. For tariffs to the EV ones
00:17:31.960 that we put on back in the summer. Is your government thinking about considering removing
00:17:37.460 any tariffs on China? Any of those EV tariffs for example? We're not. You will not? We're not. Even
00:17:43.740 given the issues with the United States right now, there's no second guessing our posture
00:17:48.160 towards trade with China at this moment? Well, I would say not with respect to the tariffs that
00:17:52.080 we put, because there was a good reasons. We would say we would never be a backdoor to cheap
00:17:56.480 Chinese vehicle, which are overly subsidized and where they don't respect labor law and
00:18:01.880 environmental laws. I mean, there's a reasons why they're dumping, you know, steel in North
00:18:07.820 America. And you see these cheap vehicles coming here. We want to protect our industry. We want
00:18:12.220 to protect our workers uh we want to protect uh our communities and the reasons why we imposed
00:18:18.220 the turf in the first place still remain very valid today china's strength so i agree with uh
00:18:24.760 philippe champaign there i don't usually agree with him but that was a good point he made he
00:18:29.660 always reminds me of like if marco rubio the secretary of state and the former senator from
00:18:35.220 florida who works for trump right now here philip philip champaign reminds me of philippe
00:18:40.380 And if Marco Rubio was French and a loser, that's kind of what I always get the vibe out of him with.
00:18:48.020 I love that meme of like Marco Rubio having to take different jobs and they always put him in a different outfit where he looks exhausted and tired while sitting in the Oval Office.
00:18:56.600 If Philippe Champagne ever gets cut from the Liberal cabinet, I'm going to make that meme but just change Marco Rubio's hair to gray.
00:19:04.360 but now let's get to the next part of this clip which of course is now mark carney making his
00:19:10.580 reversal while in china china's strengths in electric vehicle sector are undeniable we need
00:19:16.520 to learn from innovative partners access their supply chains and increase local demand canada
00:19:23.000 has agreed to allow up to 49 000 chinese electric vehicles into the canadian market
00:19:30.120 with the most favored nation tariff rate of 6.1 percent do you have an advanced degree in
00:19:36.580 technology and cyber security yes or no uh no but i have i have spent sorry i like i said
00:19:43.440 seven years i need to get short ads again going back to this clip you can tell he's up to something
00:19:50.040 just his behavior is duplicitous it's attempting to undermine a witness on in front of a committee
00:19:57.320 That's all he is attempting to do here.
00:20:00.400 The other one is you belong to the China Strategic Risk Institute.
00:20:06.040 So does this institute specifically look for risk when it's in one?
00:20:10.180 Yes or no?
00:20:10.860 No.
00:20:12.360 So why is it a risk institute?
00:20:14.960 Because it analyzes risks that are obviously there.
00:20:20.040 Thank you.
00:20:20.580 It's like if you had like the Somali Pirate Risk Institute.
00:20:24.920 you don't are you trying to look for risk that isn't there there is risk so what's your point
00:20:31.420 it exists because there is a risk yes china poses a risk to the west russia poses a risk to the west
00:20:39.160 iran poses a risk to the west you don't start an institute on like a on a fishing expedition to
00:20:46.800 find risk within China. It's very obvious. So the last question then is, you claim about
00:20:55.020 forced labor in Shenzhen. Have you witnessed this yourself? Have you been there ever?
00:21:00.260 I've been to China many times. Have you witnessed forced labor in Shenzhen? Have you witnessed
00:21:06.460 forced labor? That's just a short answer. Have you witnessed forced labor in Shenzhen? Yes or no?
00:21:13.180 um human rights watch where researchers did witness it so thank you i love i love the facial
00:21:24.220 expression on on that woman it's just priceless of her to like actually looking at him like you
00:21:29.900 how is there a real human being in the canadian parliament asking me this question she's like
00:21:35.740 gets suddenly taken aback i love it it's like when uh uh jason jocks the uh the budget watchdog uh
00:21:43.180 the uh is a budget secretary i forget what it is but he was the like watchdog for like basically
00:21:49.580 all financial issues in government and the liberals keep trying to ask him and trying to put words in
00:21:54.380 his mouth that the financial situation is doing well and he just starts like looking at them
00:21:58.140 squinting and like shaking his head he's like i don't know what you're trying to get from me here
00:22:01.980 but you're not going to get it. Yeah, so everything's been looking really up for Mark Carney
00:22:09.420 over the last little bit here. So there's one more clip I want to play. Conservative MP Michael
00:22:16.480 Chong posted this just an hour ago, and I think that it's a great thing to post right now,
00:22:21.820 demonstrating that back in 2021, the entire parliament unanimously voted to condemn the
00:22:29.540 Uyghur genocide or the mistreatment of Uyghur people, whatever you want to call it, it's really
00:22:35.240 bad. They condemned it in Parliament in 2021. Everyone voted for it. And this guy's basically
00:22:40.940 now saying that he doesn't care about the unanimous vote. He believes that there's shenanigans afoot
00:22:45.780 when it comes to whether or not China's actually doing anything wrong. The Honorable Member for
00:22:51.140 Wellington, Holton Hills North. Mr. Speaker, Parliament recognized with Liberal MPs supporting
00:22:56.980 that a genocide, including forced labour, was taking place against the Uyghurs in Xinjiang
00:23:02.180 province in the PRC. In response, the Liberal government imposed sanctions. Today, a Liberal
00:23:07.960 member of Parliament in committee intimated in questioning Margaret McQuaid Johnson,
00:23:14.740 a former PCO official, that there was and is no Uyghur forced labour. Two questions. Does the
00:23:21.600 government still assess that Uyghur forced labour has taken place? And secondly, will the sanctions
00:23:26.260 remain in place i was wrong this isn't a video of the vote it's uh it's michael chonk speaking
00:23:32.280 about the vote that had happened
00:23:33.760 the honorable parliament secretary and i thank the member for the question and i want to be
00:23:45.680 absolutely clear to all members of this house forced labor is unacceptable we must ensure
00:23:51.620 that our global supply chains remain free from these abuses.
00:23:56.200 That's why, Speaker, we prioritize the inclusion of comprehensive labor provisions
00:24:00.380 and free trade agreements to promote international labor standards.
00:24:03.660 We also work with public safety to reduce forced labor from our supply chains,
00:24:09.240 and we will protect Canada's interests while upholding labor standards from all workers.
00:24:14.420 Okay, so we're very much into the tail wagging the dog scenario with the liberal government.
00:24:20.740 So this moron, Michael Ma, says, basically questions the idea that there's forced labor in China at all.
00:24:28.960 And by the way, the forced labor in China goes well past just the Uyghur Muslims.
00:24:32.500 The entire economy is effectively a tiny little free market system for trading elsewhere in the world on top of a giant socialist, communistic labor structure.
00:24:43.840 Even the Chinese people themselves, in many ways, are effectively forced laborers.
00:24:47.800 And the liberals, when questioned about them walking back potentially their view that there's forced labor in Xinjiang province, I'm forgetting how to pronounce it, they don't even name check China. They do not name check the problem with Uyghurs. They do not name check the CCP in their response.
00:25:06.860 So apparently Michael Ma now controls the liberals view of China. What? This is like, I never get surprised that the liberals screw things up, but I get surprised by how badly they end up screwing something up.
00:25:22.380 it wasn't even like a i'm how do i portray this i assumed that like mark carney's liberals at the
00:25:29.780 very least would be more dignified in screwing things up you know they are very clever knife
00:25:35.260 fighters over there but if they lose it's going to be in like a in like uh he's going to kind of
00:25:40.700 plie and fall in a much more graceful way this is like dumber than anything justin trudeau
00:25:46.280 ever did. This is a dumber screw-up than Justin Trudeau's liberals. Anyways, with that all being
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